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Vocal Cord Injury to Comic Book Series - The Life of Scotti Mann

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This episode delves into Scotti Mann's journey from a 15 year old playing in his father's band, to now authoring children's books and penning an original comic book series. 

A life-changing hernia operation and the resulting damage to Scotti's vocal cords mark a pivotal moment in his journey, leading to self-reflection and the pursuit of new creative avenues.  In the wake of his injury, Scotti's battle with depression and his determination to rediscover his passions are discussed with openness and vulnerability. 

His transition from music to children's book writing signifies a renaissance of art in his life.  His first children's book, spurred by sketches of his son and dog, becomes a tangible representation of his evolving artistry.  The process of creating a children's book is explored, highlighting the impact of storytelling on young minds and the satisfaction derived from seeing one's work cherished by others.

He also provides insight into the world of indie comics through his experiences.  Creating his dark comic series "Sunset Dawning" showcases the laborious yet exhilarating craft of comic book art.  Scotti shares the challenges he faces as an independent artist in a market dominated by industry giants and the shift towards embracing diverse narratives in indie comics.

Throughout the podcast it's evident that Brad and Scotti have been good friends for many years.  They share laughs and stories of the many times they collaborated to create music for themselves and others... More than 30 years later they are still good friends and still laugh quite a lot. :)
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Speaker 1:

From real estate to real life and everything in between the Brad Wiseman show and now your host, brad.

Speaker 2:

Wiseman Wow, wow, wow. This is going to be an amazing show. I got to tell you right now. This is a show that you will not forget. I probably won't forget either. Or I might get fired or we might get taken off the air completely. It depends, depends on what happens. No, I have a friend in here. He's just an amazing guy. I've known him since I'm 15. So that's a long time ago. He is doing everything Comic books, he's writing books for children, he's a great singer, great songwriter. He's playing on cruise ships right now. I mean all kinds of stuff. But without me having any delay, right now we'll get into introducing. Scotty Mann is here in the studio. Hey there, man. What's?

Speaker 1:

up, man, it's good to see you. Good to see you. This is amazing. I got to say this is an amazing thing, thank you. I appreciate that Theme song and the intro and everything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just love it. It's like Hollywood here. Yeah, it makes it sound like I'm good it really does.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, god knows, hope it works on me too.

Speaker 2:

We'll see how it works. It could You'll have your own Scotty Mann mic there, you know. Get you into the mic. I like that, but no.

Speaker 1:

I'll have the other red shoe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the other red shoe. Yeah, because I'm limping all the time Because I only have one shoe. It's just kind of weird. That's probably why I have back problems. What do you think, hugo, it could be?

Speaker 1:

it, I could be it. I need some shoe inserts, yeah something, or just the other shoe Without the shoe, that'll be weird.

Speaker 2:

So thanks for coming in. Oh man, thanks for having me. I know you're a busy guy man, you're doing all kinds of stuff, and you know I thought let's just go backwards a little bit and talk about how we know each other. And do you remember, Do you remember, the night we met? I don't remember yesterday, you don't? Well, you are much older than me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was. I believe it was. I was playing the piano, he just got the whole week. Yeah exactly, yeah, I was playing the piano on the break room at I forget the school, but Brandywine or somewhere where we were in County Chorus together. We both made County Chorus. Yes, because we were awesome.

Speaker 2:

We were amazing, yes, and what's funny? I mean, I remember I came into the room, into the rehearsal room before I guess we were practicing or whatever and I hear this guy singing and I'm like, wow, this guy's, this guy's good and like this guy's really good. And then, of course, all the girls are around the piano wooing over Scotty man, you know, which was cool, and I think you were singing a Jeffrey Osborne song, I might have been.

Speaker 1:

I think it was. It might have been. Yeah, I think it was probably On the Wings of Love or something.

Speaker 2:

That's exactly what you were singing. Yes, that's it. See, I knew it. I knew it and you met him. Wow, yeah, I did so. When I saw that picture of Jeffrey Osborne, I thought oh my God, isn't that something. That's how I met Scotty. That's crazy. It is crazy. Right, that was the song.

Speaker 1:

That was the song, Absolutely. He was on the cruise. He was performing on the crew one of the cruises that I did yeah, and he was in the little like an area, lounge, area near, performing near the casino. Yeah, so I started. I always do want to have this song LTD every time I move, I lose.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so I started the song and he comes out from behind, behind one of the machines, like did they look at you? Like that son of a?

Speaker 2:

bitch. I mean, did they give me that kind of look like I can't believe?

Speaker 1:

he was just like he couldn't believe, like he was like.

Speaker 2:

And I saw him and I went uh-oh, he was like it's all right, it's all right, he gives you permission yeah? That's fine, you all right, go ahead. I got his blessing. That'd be cool, really cool. I mean he's definitely been an idol of yours, I know, since I met you, absolutely, and you do him very well.

Speaker 1:

And he actually do a good job. Thank you and yeah. But he came over and he was like, yeah, man, I'm saying all right, boy, yeah, that's cool, all right, can't, yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

That's really cool. So, okay, let's talk about all this. So I knew we wrote music together for a while too, back when we were writing music. I mean, you were singing, I was singing, I was in a band, you were in bands, you were doing your solo thing, but we somehow got together a lot and actually wrote music together. We wrote for a girl named Asha. Yep, did a lot of stuff. I'll tell you what we had some here you go. We had some good times in the studios. We would laugh. I think we laugh more than we wrote music. Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm serious. Just like joking around and stuff like that having a great time.

Speaker 1:

I'm actually surprised we got any music written.

Speaker 2:

I'm surprised too. Yeah, and we were in New York City in studios up there getting our cars broken into. That was always a blast, but there was a lot of stuff going on. But through the years we've remained friends, good friends, I mean, and there's times when I'll see you, probably for a couple of years. You know what I mean, and you had children before. I did so it was a little bit. When you have kids, all of a sudden, your life changes completely. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you had Jack first, right, yeah, jack. And then you have Gianna and Eva, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, very cool.

Speaker 2:

And they're cute as could be.

Speaker 1:

Oh, they're adorable, yeah, very cool, and they're 13 now. That's amazing. Yeah, so they're not little and it's really concerning, yeah, but yeah, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2:

I have one at 11 going on 12, so it's a little definitely concerning. So go back so. You've been writing music since pretty much from the same time you were young. I remember seeing pictures of your in your parents' house, of you on a piano, at like what six five.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, about that I would mess around. I mean, I didn't really start taking it seriously until I was 15 or so and my dad forced me to join his band.

Speaker 2:

Cook said you're gonna do this and how old or young were you when you started doing that? I was 15. 15.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he said here's the tape Back when we had cassettes kids.

Speaker 2:

Hugo, a cassette is a thing that has like a tape inside it. Actually, the day we used to wind them up, with the yeah.

Speaker 1:

And he said here's the cassette. You have 40 songs that we absolutely need to do. You have two weeks to learn them. And I was like I don't play keyboards, dad, he's like you will. Oh my gosh. So I just sat there and listened and played by ear and figured it all out and I hated him those two weeks. But, I'm very glad he did Cause now. I'm able to just go do gigs and yeah, you can do your own thing.

Speaker 2:

Scotty's an amazing one-man band. I mean he does his own thing, sings really well and plays piano and you know you arrange your own stuff. But you were writing seriously for a while, like some really serious writing, cause I remember hearing some songs that you would let me hear and it was amazing stuff. Thanks, thanks, I mean.

Speaker 1:

I well, I have my uncle. Rick Manwheeler was one of my heroes. And he he worked with, like, there was a band called Dakota that he was in. Yeah, I remember that Way back in the day they toured with Night Ranger in Chicago. Yeah, all sorts of people and I just I wanted to be like him. So you know, he'd always send new music and I'd figure it out immediately and play it for him. The next time I saw him he goes how do you do you figure these out while they're in the mail? So that would be good if you could. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing, yeah, so that's how it started. So you just then you basically really got bit by the bug cause your dad did this your whole life, exactly yeah.

Speaker 1:

He was. He was in. He played every instrument in the band. He went around in different bands. He started on drums and then then, I think, he played bass with the band that I joined, and then he went to guitar and then he played keyboards. And now he's he, and he sort of took a hint and did the one man show. Now he's doing that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 1:

He's a good cookie man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he's still doing it. Yeah, and he's in his seventies, right? Yeah, late, late, late. I wasn't going to say that cause I'd case he listens to the show, it doesn't matter cause he. But he's amazing at late seventies. He doesn't stop. No Kind of pisses you off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm just cause I'm 53 and I'm ready to stop. I'm tired, I am tired. Yeah, I notice you still have the kids.

Speaker 2:

You're not even. You don't have enough energy even to shave anymore. I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean I do every once in a while. You know what I mean? Well, actually I'm half Italians.

Speaker 1:

I just shaved this morning.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I don't doubt that yeah. You can actually hear it growing. It's like, yeah, yeah, exactly what is that? It's just my beard, so, yeah. So then you move from that going into. You know, you play and play, and play. Now this is what's what's wild is. You were doing this for so long and then all of a sudden I'm on social media and I see a book yeah, a book. So I don't ever remember in any of our conversations or joking around or all that shit we did. I don't ever remember you saying I wanna write a book someday. Yeah, I kind of well, and your finger didn't go up in the air either.

Speaker 1:

No, it rarely did. It rarely did. I had, you know, the rotator cuff yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, but seriously, did you know you were gonna write a book? So did you? Seriously, where's that come?

Speaker 1:

from. Well, I used to do that back before I even started playing. And you know, on the piano and writing I would sneak my grandmother's typewriter and I'd just start writing little stories and I love to do that. But then you know the music, yeah, sure, that bug caught me and I kind of took a break. I hate this because you know you're on stage and people are screaming and stuff and it just kind of makes you go, oh, let's do this instead. Oh, yeah, it's fun. And then you know I worked with you. I joined a band called Johnny O and the Classic Dogs. That was a good band Really. You guys were awesome. And I went back and forth between that and the local groove masters and they're good too. Oh, amazing, yep. So I kind of started off with like the best players, yeah, and just like where do I go from here? But then I went and recorded because I mean, I heard an analogy that said someone who's in cover bands and thinks they're part of the music industry is like a paper boy thinking he's part of journalism.

Speaker 2:

Or the newspaper company. Yeah, yeah, so true, I've heard that too.

Speaker 1:

That's what you're taking other people's ideas and making money from it, and it kind of made me go. I feel that, yeah, I always wanted to create stuff and have people enjoy it and share it, and obviously the best way to keep doing that is to be able to sell it. So that was where I kind of hit a. It's hard. Yeah, the marketing is ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

And I heard some people music business is probably one of the toughest, most unforgiving. Just not, it's not fun, no, it's not fun and very backstabby. Yeah, yeah, and it's really and we all know this and we hate. You know you don't want to be like the negative about it. It's not just about the talent. We all know that, it's about whatever's selling at that moment or whatever's being promoted. I mean telling you, how many times have I heard a song? They're all like, oh, that song is not that great. Four weeks later I'm going geez, I love this song, you know, because they basically drilled it into your brain and you will like this song. You're going to like this song and you will purchase it and the sweaters and the t-shirts and everything else will go with it Lurch boxes, yeah, everything. So you know it's tough, you know it's tough, it's really tough. It is Now. Do you think if you were, if we were, if we had social media back, then you think it would have been easier for us to make it? Oh, I think so.

Speaker 1:

I think so, especially you, especially if I was working with you because you were non-stop.

Speaker 2:

You were doing that.

Speaker 1:

You had the sales bug before.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, definitely yeah, it's a sickness.

Speaker 1:

It's a sickness I have? No, that's not a sickness anymore man, that's where it is Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, man, but I appreciate that.

Speaker 2:

But it's just funny because I always think, man, social media. You know, if we would have had that, it would have been a little bit easier to get the word out, because I mean it's been obviously like any good idea.

Speaker 1:

It's been corrupted since. Yeah, absolutely. But in the beginning I mean you could just when you could reach anyone. Remember MySpace, oh my god.

Speaker 2:

We just talked about that recently. Hugo, remember? Yeah, I think it was Freddie Vasquez, that's what his claim to fame was when he first started. He became like a very good MySpace creator for bands. Yeah, that was his thing. So, yeah, so let's go back. So now we get into the books. Yeah, so you have children? Ok, you do have children. Just so you know you have children. How would that know? Yeah, that's what that was. Yeah, and now you're like OK, I'm going to write a book and like, what hit you then? Well, ok, what kind of does this?

Speaker 1:

happen. I have to go back to the end of the music. Oh, go back to the end of the music. Go back there. We have time for that. I was working with a company in New York called Stray Dog Music oh, fantastic Guys. One of the owners was from Germany His name's Axel, and Eric is the other partner and so I had connections in Cologne and Frankfurt and Berlin and whatnot. So I went over there. I was doing tours yeah, I remember that. My own music, yeah, awesome. One of the gigs was at Brandenburg Gate, right where the Berlin Wall was oh, wow, cool, and there was like 5,000 people there, wow. And the second time I went back, they were singing my lyrics. But that's like German people singing your lyrics.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's something as a musician that is. That's a different level. It was. Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 1:

And the Panasonic. The German company Panasonic had a record division. They offered me a deal and I came home and I was working out for the cameras and the videos and everything. And I was hanging upside down doing the ab workouts and I got a hernia. Oh, so I went and had that taken care of and the breathing tube I remember this Hit my vocal cords and I could barely even talk for about almost a year, I totally remember this Almost a year. How long ago was this 2003?

Speaker 2:

2003 that's not. Yeah, that's about. Yeah, I remember that now that happens from time to time. I've heard when they take the tube out, right, yeah, oh yeah, but this one apparently there was.

Speaker 1:

There was significant down with it out to Jefferson in Jefferson Hospital and they said, yeah, there's significant, so it just ripped your vocal chords, it's just, yeah, banged into it and it's. I just didn't have the range that I had before and that took away all my confidence and everything of course.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, because you probably finding a new place in your throat to sing. Yeah, because your muscles you're re, you got to retrain the muscle On how to do certain things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and it was. It was effortless before. You know what I and part of me you know now that I'm older and I feel a little bit ashamed because I took it for granted for a while I could do almost amazing with my voice.

Speaker 2:

I know you could and that's and that's so, so that from that moment on you definitely had a voice change type thing. Yeah, yeah, you didn't. You didn't have the range that you had, quite, I built it back up. Yeah, you've gone pretty. I'm say I was gonna say I remember when that happened. I remember you going through a time period where you couldn't hit the notes that you used to hit, and but now I've seen you since then and you're pretty damn close to where you were.

Speaker 1:

It's just about there. There's actually some. I've actually have a little bit more in the top and a lot more on the bottom. On the bottom, yeah, but that midsection, the Steve Perry, michael Jackson. Bruno Mars, interesting the mid part of your voice right where the break is kind of has me going warbly once in a while.

Speaker 2:

Well, and that's what you were always a master at, you were always a master at going from your really strong chest voice, the transition Transitioning into your head voice, and you were fantastic at that, because it was you didn't hear it, most people. You hear it, you didn't hear it. Yeah, that's, I worked at, so we're gonna do a vocal lesson, hugo, do you want to do? You want to chime in? Yeah, so we're gonna keep you. Good, don't quit your day job, your night job, your partly part-time job. Don't quit any of him. He'd be good if you just work on this. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Needs more attitude involved, right? Yeah, so that's crazy. I'm glad you went back into that story, because I completely forgot about that.

Speaker 1:

And that's that's what. That's what held up everything, and I mean I was. You know, you hit the depression and you absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Our life track was just thrown right when it was supposed to be the right track. Yeah exactly Interesting. But then the thing, exactly that the thing is to would you be, would you have children, would you have the life you have?

Speaker 1:

that's what you understand you got to think of. That's the comfort that's gotten me. Yeah, absolutely. As soon as I realized that it's okay, everything was it's all good, pretty much Okay. I mean, I've always I've always had, you know that Inherited depression, the game through the family so. I deal. I deal with that sometimes, but You've gotten a lot better.

Speaker 2:

It's yeah, I got a lot better. Yeah, absolutely so okay. So now, now you get past that, now, okay, now you start writing books now I sit.

Speaker 1:

Well, I was sitting there, you know, and I used to draw all the time. Yeah, oh yeah, and I love really good books.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I remember the pictures I used to. Oh my god, we'd be in the studio, hugo, and he would draw the most craziest little like things on paper and like he's really a good draw, like he can draw, like amazing. If you see his comic books, you'd be blown away. The scratch series, oh my god. There was like a whole series of things he would draw and it was funniest could be. Oh my god, those were great.

Speaker 1:

Those were great yeah but so Once, one day, I was sitting there and you know, we had my son and we had our dog, max.

Speaker 2:

Jack.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I was just sketching and just drew these little pictures and then I drew, made it into a cartoon version of them and then I did that and then I wrote a little song like a little you know limericks, yeah, whatever about. You know, jack and Max love something, jack and Max love that, jack and Max love that and that I made it rhyme because you know the song back, yeah, songwriting background, and my wife, who's a middle school ELA English teacher, she said you know, if you draw a picture for each one of those lines, you got a children's picture book, unbelievable. And I was like yeah. I guess I do and I put it off.

Speaker 2:

Wow, like I do.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't gonna say that, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I know but the.

Speaker 2:

Know not at all. Let's look at the eight ball. Yeah, no, but seriously, that's incredible. So she says you got us, you got something here, yeah, and she she.

Speaker 1:

She said, yeah, do that. I was like no, you know what, and it was a Sunday and it was raining and I was like, all right, let me, let me just do this. I threw it together and I colored it, and then I went to Kristen Overly and she, like put it all in layout form and did the whole thing and did the design for the logo and Came up with that and and then it's amazing she had a printer and it, you know, she just printed it. Just, you know the simple yeah, like paperback thing and I ordered, like you know, 50 copies and I sold them all. Yeah, I bet the guy bought one right away. Let me do this. So, yeah, I did that and I made it a, you know, a hardback and, yeah, and what's the name of the book? Now let's talk about that book. That first one is just called the Adventures of Jack and Max. Right, okay, and there's a whole Jack and Max series, yes, next, I wrote about, you know, because I'm like it's for little kids, yeah, so I wrote counting to ten Jack and Max and friends to ten. Each one of his friends has a different number. Toy, yeah, like there's one, like one Pirate ship, and then there's two rubber ducks and, yeah, three. And then I did a Christmas book. It's called the trulliest meaning of Christmas. That's the one that really caught my eye.

Speaker 2:

That was the one that really caught. When I was looking on on Social media was like what in the world is this?

Speaker 1:

you know a lot of people like that one because it has a little twist. Yeah, that's one of those. Oh, that was sweet. Yeah, it is cool, it's like the one would have read it to my kids.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Have read those to my kids in bed, yeah, when they were younger definitely.

Speaker 1:

A lady in Jersey said she reads that every year Her class, she's it's awesome preschool teacher and she's, yeah, it's. It's nice to know that kind of yeah, are you still doing that? Yeah, so right in the books. I actually just finished what was going to be a Halloween book, but I didn't get it done quite in time to start the promotion of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you kind of missed it, Just saying you know, Halloween just yeah, just passed, it's just from a late, is that why?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, is that the?

Speaker 2:

whole goblin thing. Yeah, you know, yeah, that was all. Yeah, that was yeah. So you're the fat guy with this weird, there's another. Oh me, yeah. So there's another one coming out, by the way, in.

Speaker 1:

October. This is this one I'm actually shopping to actual publishers like, oh good, I'm not going to do it myself under my LLC, I'm going to see if I can do this legitimately. Great, because this one it's more of a chapter book. It's for like, middle grade. Ok, like you know, it may be eight to 12, 13. It's, you know, it's chapters. So instead of being a picture on each page, it's just like a picture at the beginning of each chapter you know, like a Harry Potter or the kind of thing. So and I really, I really like it. And it actually, oh good it's, it's got this. This coziness, yeah that you know the stories back in the day used to have like books. Like you know, the family moves into a new house and yeah kind of cozy but so is it scary. Yeah, the kids, the kids discover all this weird stuff going on. Oh interesting.

Speaker 2:

Now see, now we're going to have to bring him back when the Halloween book comes out.

Speaker 1:

That is cool, yeah, oh yeah, that if the reserve teaser. That was a teaser.

Speaker 2:

Well, speaking of teasers, segway, yes, honey, I finally, I finally brought the bottle in Hugo. This is the stuff that I've been talking about. This is called Magic Mind. Ok, magic, what Mind Mind? Yeah, magic Mind, but yeah, this stuff. You know, my wife and I have been trying this now. It was sent to us. They said, try, I'm not one that likes to push anything on the podcast, but they sent us this. I started drinking it three days later. I can definitely feel difference, really. Yes, and it's not caffeine, it's all natural stuff I can. I mean it's. It supports your cognition Elevator, moog, increases focus, supports immunity, decreases stress, boosts your energy. You drink it with coffee, yeah, it's empty, scott.

Speaker 1:

It's empty, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm telling you. And the only thing that tastes a little weird. Ok, yeah, the taste a little weird, but you know what it literally is. Like I can, you can do. We have experience in bars, so this goes down pretty quick, somewhat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and I mean it's just down.

Speaker 2:

So I drink in the morning, I follow, I chase it with my cup of coffee and it's amazing, it's good stuff. So if you want to check it out there's actually it's MagicMindcom Backslash, brad Wiseman, I will definitely, and it's Wiseman. 20 is the discount code and it's, it's good stuff. I'm telling you, try it out, see what you think. All right, I will definitely, because I need something lately we need. I'm telling you it's a good little pick me up and it doesn't make you shake. Cool, I don't like the shaky stuff. I just the focusing is what's that's? I'm telling you that has happened. And you know what else too? There's a lot of turmeric in it and turmeric is a natural anti inflammatory. I have back issues. I've noticed definitely some easing on that just from the anti inflammatory. So we'll see what happens. Very cool, yeah, all right, all right, cool. So let's get back into this. Yeah, now we go from books what the thing now is the comics. Yeah, well, that's. That was my first love, that was your first before music.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're kidding me. Yep, I was when my sister was born. I was five and we were in the hospital and I was, you know, rambunctious and whatnot, and my dad took me down to the, to the gift shop, and he had a out of here and a spinner rack with all the comics on it, but me, I believe it was issue one 70 something of Spider-Man the amazing spider oh yeah, and I was. I was like this is what is this?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, where's this? By my whole life, my whole five years? Yeah, that's crazy. So you liked it, you were bit by it right then. That was your first true artistic love. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, get out of here Because it, because it blew me away that it was like it's writing and it's drawing and it's set up like like you'd see a movie. It helps you see a movie in your mind, like it helps you see. Yeah, it helps you along, especially when they're done right, you know. Yeah, it's, it's an, it's an art, a believable amount of work.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Well, and I see you doing this and you actually will show you the levels of when you do like a scene and you'll show the. I love seeing that part. When you show me like, you'll show me show a lot of people.

Speaker 1:

But on social media you'll show you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. I appreciate that You'll show like the initial sketch. Then you add like muscle tone, then you add like this, and then you add something else. And then all of a sudden you get to a point where you're like really really fine tuning it, yeah, and it's amazing because I think it looks great, yeah, the way you did it Right. And then when you fine tune it and you say now I'm happy with it, and I sit there and go, holy crap, I actually see it. I see the differences. You're really really good at it. Thanks, man, like that's, you're probably like one of the best.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's very good, it's, it's it's a lot of honing and you know, if you ask any anybody who does it, that you know there's guys out there that work for Marvel and DC that you know. Ask them they're like no, I could work on this and I could work on that, and of course I can work on a lot of stuff. Yeah, but to me, but I appreciate, I appreciate you, you know.

Speaker 2:

No, it's to a layman. I'm telling you, I look at it, you have to check it out. You go, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty amazing. And the series is called. Let me wait, wait, wait, wait. I had Sunset Donning, sunset Donning, Sunset Donning, and it looks it's a little dark.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's very dark.

Speaker 2:

OK, it's very dark. I was going to say it's a little dark, but it's really dark. It could be there's no light in it at all. It could be. Yeah, it's just a black page. It's the black page.

Speaker 1:

It uses a lot of ink when you print it out?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but, but no, but it's, it's dark, it's it's definitely, like you know, a darker series.

Speaker 1:

Well, I wanted to. I knew there was Marvel and DC. Yeah, are pretty much like impossible to get into, right, you know? Ok, so I figured I'd go with an indie thing and there was a group I was working on that was sort of similar to the Avengers. There, you know, the Super.

Speaker 2:

Mario thing yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I sent it to a few of the indie guys and one guy got back to me and said Marvel and DC pretty much have this stuff hemmed up, like with the superheroes.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

He said and this was back when they did, because now there's indie superheroes all over, I bet but they said you know, we're looking for, like you know, different stuff. You know like dark stories or you know. So I took one of the characters from that superhero team. Right, right, and I gave her a backstory, got it. Well, I took, I took all the characters and gave them backstories for that book, but for this one I took that backstory and expounded on it, got it and I went back to the war she's with. She's from some parallel world that was created by the Greek God of darkness and yeah, it's just. It's a whole other thing.

Speaker 2:

And then do you have that all in your head of where it's going, Like how does that work?

Speaker 1:

I have a general idea of where I want to start and where I want to end Gotcha. So the in between parts is still up for the artistic writing and it's kind of cool because, like when you know, when you do it yourself, it's obviously a shit ton of work.

Speaker 2:

It's a lot of work I can't imagine.

Speaker 1:

But it also gives you the freedom to go. Okay, I want to change this now, yeah, and no one goes. But I like it that way Because it's in here. I'm like well, I wrote that so I can change it. If I have arguments like that, there's a problem.

Speaker 2:

Well, there's going to be a different room that has pads in it. It won't have the wood, it'll be pads.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to go there.

Speaker 2:

Oh shoot, you didn't take your stuff today. I'm sorry, I'm a little nervous, but no, that's cool. So sunset dawning and you're going to have more coming out with that, yeah, this well that's.

Speaker 1:

That's a four part mini series. Okay, one complete story, but it leaves you with that. There could be more Got it. You know and I have three other books that are started that you know, that the outline are started and I'm doing characters and everything.

Speaker 2:

And it's and you're playing out live again too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm just starting to do that again.

Speaker 2:

I'm starting to do how many gigs coming up that you like in January that you can tell it's January 13th Okay. Yr club Okay there we go, January 13th YR club Excellent.

Speaker 1:

I'm planning on doing, for the legacy cigar lounge wants to do a thing first Friday of every month. Okay, so I may be doing that. It's looking good because I played there a few weeks ago and it was really good reception.

Speaker 2:

Can you let us know that we'll share it on our on our socials and stuff like that too. That'd be great. Is there anything else that you want to talk about or that you want to get into? Because we're going to definitely have to have you come back, because because we've got a lot more to talk about yet, right? Yes, so much more to talk about. So, hugo, do you have any questions for Scotty? No, no, no, I was just intrigued, cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thank you. Yeah, he does a lot of that any you know comic book stores.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah do you have any cruises coming up?

Speaker 1:

Just, I'm doing the 70s rock and romance this year.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and when's that? In summer, that's March, in March, and what's?

Speaker 1:

cruise line. It's well, starvist is the company they were using. I'm not quite sure yet. Okay, let us know they're between companies. Let us know his celebrity.

Speaker 2:

Do you know any of the people are gonna be on it?

Speaker 1:

Um, besides Scottie man, there's a few, this is true, this is true. No, it's like the first one I did. It was like Ambrosia foreigner. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2:

See, to me it's just yacht rock radio. Rock radio that's one of my favorite stations in the summer. Oh yeah, I know it's good stuff. A lot of todo, a lot of like stuff on here. Awesome, all right, scotty, thanks for coming out man, I appreciate it. We're gonna have you back again and catch up on you on your, the comics and the cruises. You're doing Any more children's books? We can catch up one later. So awesome man, appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for coming on, all right. All right, there you have it. Scotty man was in the studio. Wow, can't believe it, unbelievable. Should I get his autograph? I think I should. What do you think? What do you think you go? I think I should. Oh my gosh. No, the guy does everything. So go out and see him. He might be at the cigar lounge. It's a legacy cigar lounge every with something of Friday's first Friday's first Friday's. Maybe got to check him out there and just go on Facebook, look up Scotty man and you'll see him. He's doing all kinds of stuff. All right, that's about it. We got to go See you next Thursday at 7 pm.

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