Eric Beaty: From Self-Taught Guitarist to GuitarZoom Instructor

Hey everyone, Steve Stine here from GuitarZoom, and I'm thrilled to share with you a special episode of our podcast where I had the pleasure of sitting down with Eric Beaty, a seasoned guitarist and one of the respected instructors at GuitarZoom Academy. In this candid conversation, Eric not only shares his intriguing journey on how he picked up the guitar but also dives deep into his experiences—from his initial self-taught days using VHS tapes to his involvement in various bands and the profound influence of different music genres on his playing style, including bluegrass and blues.
We also talked about his role as an instructor with GuitarZoom, the challenges and joys of creating educational content, and his personal projects, like his solo album "Revival in the Air" and his series of books focused on smart goal setting and productivity. It’s a rich dialogue filled with insights not just about guitar playing but life lessons learned through music. Whether you're a budding musician or a seasoned player, there’s something in this interview for you. Join us as we explore Eric’s multifaceted musical journey and learn what keeps him inspired.

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Transcript

Steve [00:00:00]:
Hey, everybody. Steve Stine from GuitarZoom here. Thank you so much for joining me today. I'm going to be talking to a gentleman by the name of Eric Beaty. Now, Eric is a guitar player. He's a friend of mine. He's been playing guitar for a long time. He's got guitar courses, he's got books on Amazon, but he's also got a really great story of how he started learning how to play guitar, played in the church, and how all of that impacted the choices that he would make in terms of the musical things that he would do in his life.

Steve [00:00:27]:
Eric now is one of the instructors at GuitarZoom, part of our GuitarZoom Academy. If you've never heard of that, you should certainly check that out. And so let's go ahead and get started with the interview.

Steve [00:00:38]:
Hey, Eric.

Steve [00:00:38]:
How you doing, buddy?

Eric [00:00:40]:
Doing great, Steve. How are you?

Steve [00:00:41]:
I'm. I'm doing great. I'm glad you're here. This is going to be fun to talk to you about some stuff here. So for those of you that don't know Eric. Eric. I've known Eric for a long time. What was the guitar course that you did a long time ago? It was a Texas blues thing or something like that.

Eric [00:00:58]:
It was Texas blues guitar.

Steve [00:01:00]:
Yeah.

Eric [00:01:01]:
Yeah. It was a really fun experiment that Dan chose me for. He saw me on YouTube and asked me to come out and do a course on blues. And I went out to Memphis and recorded like 13 hours of footage in like two days. And he was able to somehow condense that down to like ten DVD's. Even then there would have been a bunch left over. But the worst part about it was the fact that I had a rental car. Let me just give you some advice here.

Eric [00:01:29]:
Never get a rental car that the cruise control doesn't work because you're will be in cramps with your leg the whole way there. I'm telling you, I regretted doing that. It was a four hour drive and two of it was just straight. All you could see was just straight and no trees, no nothing and all.

Steve [00:01:46]:
The way, to be honest with you, that's North Dakota.

Eric [00:01:48]:
We have nothing rough. I enjoyed it, had a good time with Dan. But, man, I'll never do that again with a car that doesn't have cruise control on it. My lesson.

Steve [00:02:02]:
That's great. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that course. It was. It was a long course. You. You put a lot of work into that. That was cool.

Eric [00:02:09]:
Oh, yeah.

Steve [00:02:10]:
So anyway, of course, Eric is back full circle now. He's one of the academy teachers here. At guitar Zoom, which is really great. I'm glad that you're here. When you talked about doing this academy thing, you know, it's always kind of nerve wracking to release the reins to people that may not know what they're doing. And I trust you wholeheartedly. And so it's been awesome having you aboard. So that's great.

Steve [00:02:38]:
So I thought what would be kind of fun is just letting people know a little bit about your background, what kind of music you like, what music you play. Let's start all the way back. Just give me kind of a background of when did you first start playing guitar? When did you first start learning, you know, even being introduced to the idea of guitar and getting excited about playing guitar.

Eric [00:03:00]:
Okay. Well, early on, when I was starting to become a teenager, about 13 years of age, way long ago and far away now, my dad at that time was pastoring a church, and there was a lot of music going on in the church. My lines of piano, sure. And I really wanted to be a part of that. I wanted to get up and, you know, do something and contribute somehow. And I thought, well, I want to be able to play an instrument somehow. But piano just didn't really seem interesting to me, so I wanted to play guitar. And I remember.

Eric [00:03:31]:
I remember it like it was yesterday. My grandma at the time, on my dad's side, we used to get these. I don't know if you're familiar with the Harriet card, Harriet Carter catalogs and the little catalogs that come in the mail with all these different things you can order. Yeah, well, I seen. I was flipping through there one day because I just like to look at the pictures, see what all interesting stuff they have. When I was a kid and they had this two VHS back when, you know, VHS was a thing, right? Two VHS course on how to play guitar. And one cassette was a red box and one cassette was a blue box, and it was more of an advanced. And then there was a beginner.

Eric [00:04:04]:
And I remember begging my grandma at that time to get that for me for Christmas, and she did. And so I spent hours just watching these things over and over. I'm self taught. Other than, you know, watching videos, I've never had, you know, an instructor or anything like that. But I remember I was so impatient with it because a lot of it was reading music notation so that you could play a melody. And I was not interested in that. I wanted to learn to play now, so I learned. I cheated.

Eric [00:04:28]:
I flipped all the way to the back where all the chords were and started learning chords.

Steve [00:04:33]:
Sure.

Eric [00:04:34]:
And, man, I remember how bad the calluses and how tender my fingers were and everything, but I kept at it, kept working at it, and learned all the chords. And somehow I had a natural proclivity for rhythm. I could feel the rhythm pretty good, and I've always had a good ear. I've learned everything I know about ear. And it's weird because nobody really in my family is musically talented or musically inclined. It's just something I decided I wanted to do. And so that's how I learned. Started learning guitar was I just took little bits and pieces for what worked for me and then went from there.

Eric [00:05:04]:
That's been 30 years ago this year, I think. 30 years that I've been playing.

Steve [00:05:09]:
Sure. Yeah. So once you started playing, what was some early stuff, like early bands or, like, songs that you were trying to figure out or that sort of thing?

Eric [00:05:22]:
Well, I was interested, being in church and everything, obviously, you want to learn hymnals and things like that, so I was interested in that. But I quickly got interested in bluegrass, gospel, and that became my first love, really, so to speak. And I've learned a few. I would play along with cassettes and learn to try to play along with them. And then by the time I got to where I could pick a little bit, I would try to pick along with them, play little solos and things like that. But I remember very vividly I was the official lawnmower at the house, so I would push mow the whole lawn, you know, once a week.

Steve [00:05:57]:
Yeah.

Eric [00:05:57]:
And I hated that with a passion. So what I remember, I had this Sony Walkman cassette player, and I would listen to pass the time, I would listen to music. So I got Ricky Skaggs when he started Kentucky Thunder back in 97. The first album they came out with was called Bluegrass Rules, and it had a guitarist on there named Brian Sutton. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him or not, but Brian Sutton.

Steve [00:06:20]:
Yep.

Eric [00:06:21]:
Is an amazing flat picker. And I knew about him before I knew about Tony Rice or any of his influences. And so I would listen to that, call it, record that cassette over and over. Every time I mowed, I would put that thing in and listen to it. And I really got inspired to play bluegrass, gospel. And so that was what I really strived for for years. The first time I got into electric guitar was about 2001, I think, when I first got my first electric guitar, somewhere around there. And I really got interested in Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton.

Eric [00:06:56]:
I remember I had these tabs for tears in heaven. And so I took forever. And that's a pretty difficult song, believe it or not. So I started learning that one. Then my brother was interested in it, so I started teaching him guitar. So I was basically his guitar teacher. Now he plays guitar, but, yeah, that was people like Stevie Ray Vaughan flipping that guitar behind his back and playing and totally mesmerized me. So I was into the blues and Kenny Wayne shepherd and blues rock.

Eric [00:07:19]:
And that's where Texas blues guitar came from. Sure, of course. But, yeah, I'm bluegrass at heart, and I also love shred and blues.

Steve [00:07:28]:
Sure.

Eric [00:07:29]:
Almost as equally.

Steve [00:07:31]:
That's great. So then when you were growing up and playing, did you play in bands and things like that then, too?

Eric [00:07:38]:
Well, my family, it's me, my sister, and my two stepbrothers. We've been together since 95. So about two years after I started playing guitar. Okay, two or three years. And we started a little group together called the Heavenly Travelers. It took us forever to figure out a name, but that's what we came up with. And I don't know where it is, but I've got the original cassette. We actually cut an album together.

Steve [00:08:02]:
Okay.

Eric [00:08:02]:
And I've got original cassette picture somewhere of all of us where we took our picture for the album cover. And, man, you talk about nerdy, because this was in the nineties. I had these big glasses, you know, I'm telling you, I'm embarrassed to look at it. But we were all, you know, that style back then. But we cut our first album of what we call special songs. There's him hymns that you get in the church book. And then there's what you call special songs, which are not found in church book, but you hear them, like on the radio or southern gospel people or whatever they'll sing. And so we had.

Eric [00:08:37]:
We accumulated all these songs. We would be asked eventually to go around different churches singing as a little family group, you know, of kids. And so we still sing together. I was telling you earlier, before we got on that, you know, of an upcoming church function we got to go sing at later on this month. So we're still together. We've branched out a little bit and got involved in other groups. I remember my first band, band was about, like I said, 2001, maybe 2002. My brother and I were in a contemporary christian group.

Eric [00:09:06]:
He had become friends with a drummer and also a bass player that knew each other. And so from there, we formed a group called Fog Lot, which was Flames of God living in greatness, holiness, and truth. And that's what Foglight stood for.

Steve [00:09:22]:
Gotcha.

Eric [00:09:22]:
So we still have the demo. I still got the demo recordings where we tried to make an album of some of the songs that I wrote in some of the regular songs. And so a lot of good memories from doing stuff like that together with a lot of family members.

Steve [00:09:35]:
Right. Well, that's awesome. And then you've got your own album that you've released, too, right?

Eric [00:09:40]:
Yes, I released it about a year ago. It's called revival in the air. It's just some. After going to so many churches and singing all of my life, pretty much with us together, sometimes we couldn't all be together. And when we started kind of branching apart and having our own lives, we would just sing as we could individually. And people kept asking me if I had any music of just me singing, and I didn't. Even though I've written probably over 100 songs easily, instrumentals and lyrical together, I just never sat down and did anything. One day I decided to get me a Daw digital audio workstation, found one and started working with it.

Eric [00:10:20]:
And I still use it to this day. It's called traction waveform. Okay. And just started recording. And it was. It was interesting because it only took, like, a week to record. I picked the songs out that I'd written. I know what I wanted, and it took about a week to record.

Eric [00:10:35]:
I didn't have any bass. I wanted it to be, like, more of an intimate album. Kind of like my inspiration was Tony Rice's Church street blues album, where it was just him and a guitar and maybe another guitar doing rhythm, or just him with a little bit of reverb, you know, just an intimate setting, almost like a one on one concert type thing. And so there's no bass, but it's just me and guitars and me singing in harmony and doing all the guitar work. And it didn't take long to record. Like I said, it was about a week, but then I was. I wanted to get out there, so I didn't know how. So I had to learn how to do all the mixing by myself.

Eric [00:11:08]:
I looked at all these mixing courses. I was fortunate enough to win lifetime access to Graham Cochran. I don't know if you're familiar with him, but he's recording revolution. I want lifetime access to all his mixing courses. So I started with him, started with Joe Gilder, another good friend of his from home studio corner. Learned everything I could from those guys, and then slowly started mixing my own music. And it took me about three, well, closer to five years to finally get it to where I wanted it. So I could release it, and it took a long time, and now I'm at the point, there's.

Eric [00:11:45]:
There's things that I'm so much of a perfectionist. I've been working on a solo for the longest, and it's only a minute long. It's just enough to be a solo. The recordings is easy, but going back and being perfection and trying to tweak everything with the mix, I'm at the point now I just want to hire somebody and say, just, I want to play it, record it, and you do the rest, because I'm just tweaked too much. Yeah, but that's. That's my debut album, and I've got enough songs. I could do another album. I've already got two or three picked out that I want to put on it.

Steve [00:12:13]:
Sure.

Eric [00:12:13]:
But right now, I'm trying to get another studio outside. We moved where we're at now a couple years ago, and just little by little, I've been putting the studio outside together. It's a shed, but we just got electricity put in, but now we're gonna put in the foam and all that other stuff, and it just takes a while before I can move everything out to that.

Steve [00:12:31]:
Yeah.

Eric [00:12:31]:
I'm assuming my next album, if we don't hurry up and get that done, will probably be done here in this basement studio, but that's fine because the other one was done in a room studio anyway.

Steve [00:12:39]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the beautiful thing, is that you can do all of this stuff nowadays. You can do it in, you know, with a set of headphones. You can be anywhere. You could be in a hotel somewhere, and you could still be doing it, which is great. Cool. So when you, with your guitar playing and you're singing, do you practice on a daily basis? Like, how does. What does your practice schedule look like? Or do you not really practice much or.

Eric [00:13:05]:
Well, lately, I've been practicing as daily as I can, trying to. As daily as I can, because I've been getting a little bit more serious about some of my playing and learning other songs by an artist that I'm really into right now, and I've been into since 2018. And you probably, I think we talked about him before, Marcos Fogey. He's amazing. And I've been learning some of his songs, and they are kicking. Kicking me in the tail left and right. I mean, those licks are ridiculously hard. So I've been practicing and honing in on those as far as what I usually do, what I used to do, for me, it was mostly acoustic, and I sing with a group now called the Gilbert family out of Sparta, Tennessee, and we used to have almost weekly practice sessions, so that would be my practice, and I'm fine with bluegrass.

Eric [00:13:51]:
I'm more honed to that than I am. A lot of the shred stuff, I got to really keep the maintenance going on that.

Steve [00:13:57]:
Sure.

Eric [00:13:57]:
But for as far as a practice schedule, if we play in a lot, then we either practice that week and that acts as a practice, and the actual gig itself acts for me as a practice. And, you know, I get to warm up and be fine. And if I need to kind of brush up on some things, I can practice on my own time. Once or twice, they'll give me the set list, and I'll kind of go over some of the intros or whatever, because it's basically me, a bass player, and another vocalist. Sure. So, basically, I have to do all the feels, I have to do all the rhythm and all the lead and all that. So I've got three guitar parts in one, so I've got to be on my toes for that. With electric guitar, it's more sit down and really focus in on a certain area.

Eric [00:14:37]:
Like, right now, I've been working on just one lick of the. Of the song I've been working on from Marcos Foley, and it's his big sweep lick, and I'm not used to sweeping, especially these long stretches he does.

Steve [00:14:46]:
Sure.

Eric [00:14:46]:
And so I've been working on that for the last three, four weeks, just grinding away at it, and finally it's starting to come together. It's starting to feel better, and that just gets me pumped, that gets me excited to get even more done and learn even more, because I see that, and I'm like, I can do this, and there's things that I thought I could never do, and it's. It's happening, and it's just a result of chipping away at it. Getting your reps in.

Steve [00:15:09]:
Yeah.

Eric [00:15:10]:
And you can do some of the things that you put your mind to if you just sit down and do the work and be the word. That's been on my mind and every good. Everywhere I go, Steve, I see it. Is consistency consist, be consistent?

Steve [00:15:21]:
Yep.

Eric [00:15:22]:
I watched an interview with John Pedrucci and one of my questions to him because it was, like an open question thing, and I asked a question about how. How does he practice? How do you get better at guitar and all this stuff? Because it was frustrating trying to learn some of this stuff from Marco, and he plays a lot like Petrushi does. And he said the main word that he could come up with was consistency. And since he said that, I'm seeing the word consistency everywhere I go. It's on, right? It'd be on billboards. It'll be in a book. Somebody will say it. And I'm like, okay, I need to be keeping notes here because that's apparently for me.

Steve [00:15:53]:
Right. That's true. I mean, I always tell people that you need to practice on the days that you eat. So that's.

Eric [00:15:58]:
Yeah, the truth.

Steve [00:16:00]:
And, you know, the thing is, is that's exactly. It is. It doesn't really matter what it is that you want to do, whether you want to exercise or you want to write a book, which we're going to get to in a minute here, too, but you got to be consistent with it and you have to do it, you know, again, it's not that you can always do everything every day, but, like, what I was trying to explain, especially to students that maybe have just been, you know, just started playing, is you got to, you got to consider yourself a guitar player. Like, you can't consider yourself someone who's going to play guitar today. You're a guitar player. And so for the rest of your life, you're going to be a guitar player. So if you want to be a guitar player, you have to do it as much as you can. You know, if it's five minutes in the morning and five minutes in the afternoon or ten minutes in the morning and five minutes in the afternoon or whatever you can do, because, like you, it's the same thing.

Steve [00:16:50]:
Like, I am obsessed with playing. I don't. There's not a day that goes by that I don't play guitar. You know, if I travel, I travel with a guitar. If I fly, fly with the guitar. If I'm going overseas, I already know where the guitar store is going to be, so I can go there because I love to play. The same thing you just said about being motivated, I love to be motivated. And if I fall out of that for a couple, three days, it's very easy to lose that motivation where if I stay in the game, whether it's performance, because that's another thing, too, that's really important is for people out there that.

Steve [00:17:24]:
That are learning how to play. You know, there's the practice of trying to develop your skills, and then there's the practice of what you understand and how you visualize things in your head. But then there's the performance aspect of learning how to play with other human beings. And you know, it sounds like you've been doing that since you were a little kid, so, you know, that's. Yeah, there's something really special about that, too. So tell me about. Because you had mentioned that you've got a book as well, or a series of books I think you even have on Amazon. What is that?

Eric [00:17:59]:
Let me just show it to you. So back in 2016 to 17, I did a video, and I was into goal setting and time management and stuff like that. And still, am I a big geek about that. And I decided to make this video into a book. Well, the book ended up going, becoming three books.

Steve [00:18:20]:
Okay.

Eric [00:18:20]:
And so that is what I call smart focus. Smart focus series one, two, and three. And these are on Kindle and paperback. But these are all about some. Some things that I actually did. There's pictures in here of pieces of paper that I took my smart goals on, and I would actually, every quarter, I would go back and update so that I would be once again consistent with all these goals. And that's what a lot of that is. These are based on is my personal.

Eric [00:18:50]:
Achieving some goals, like creating my own course. Dan's course inspired me to create my own course on bluegrass.

Steve [00:18:57]:
Sure.

Eric [00:18:57]:
So these show my journey of creating my own bluegrass course and some different tools and things that I came up with on how to delegate some of your projects to virtual assistants. I had some virtual assistants to do the video editing and the graphic design and different things like that for some of my products based on a lot of stuff that Dan did on his product.

Steve [00:19:18]:
Sure.

Eric [00:19:19]:
And so Dan being dad. So, Dan Denley. Yes. The founder and owner of Guitar Zoom. Sorry about that.

Steve [00:19:25]:
Correct.

Eric [00:19:25]:
But, yeah, so a lot of him and what he did with me and how we worked together inspired me and was the foundation for a lot of stuff I've done since. I go back to that constantly. And so these books are all about my journey into achieving these goals and how I was successful in those, and I wanted to share that with people in the form of books. And so that's what I did, was I wrote that, and I've written several books since then. Once again, I'm so nitpicky. It takes me forever to edit a lot of these and publish them.

Steve [00:19:57]:
Sure.

Eric [00:19:58]:
There's more books coming, so.

Steve [00:20:00]:
Right.

Eric [00:20:00]:
This series is complete, as far as I know, but I've got other books available, and hopefully it'll be available later on down the line when I can get somebody else to do the work for me on the editing part, because I'm terrible. I nitpicky things to death.

Steve [00:20:13]:
Sure. So with these books, then, do you integrate that philosophy into, like, your guitar lessons then?

Eric [00:20:22]:
Yes. My goal setting and things like that have evolved since then, so I've. I still use the smart system. You know, if I need to narrow in or hone in on something, I can be specific about it. I can set a time to it. I've each. I've even gone back to my home books and read them again so that I can, you know, kind of refresh my memory. But it seems like it's just something that's ever evolving depending on what kind of experience I have.

Eric [00:20:47]:
Like, not all goals are the same. I use a lot of. What a lot of I do nowadays is I just use a personal planner so that I can. Right now, what I want to do this week are the three most important tasks to tackle. And I've kind of got a little bit of everything. Like the bullet journal. That's a big craze right now. There's a whole philosophy behind bullet journaling and rapid logging your days and to do tasks and things like that.

Eric [00:21:12]:
So I'm always picking from here and there to find out what works best for me.

Steve [00:21:18]:
Sure.

Eric [00:21:19]:
But, yes, absolutely. Refer back to these whenever I get stuck and where I need a little bit more inspiration to move forward on my goals.

Steve [00:21:26]:
Right. So how long have you been teaching guitar, then?

Eric [00:21:31]:
I've been teaching on YouTube. I became a YouTube. I started YouTube in April of 2006, so it really kind of shot up in 2007 onward. But 2006, I was one of, I guess one of the first people to be on it. I've been teaching online since then. Private lessons. I was started in 2012. I was laid off from a job that I hated, which I was so glad to be laid off from because that allowed me to get out there and start doing other things with guitar, which mainly was private lessons.

Eric [00:21:59]:
So I started teaching from my apartment in 2012 and then was soon after hired on at a local private school for the arts called Peach Tree Learning center in Cookeville, Tennessee. And I taught there for about eight years. And right when I ended was when the dreaded outbreak happened. Starts with a c and all that.

Steve [00:22:19]:
Sure.

Eric [00:22:20]:
That happened. And so I thought, well, this is a good time to kind of move on. I was getting a little. Felt a little dried out as a. As a creative person because I was putting all this creativeness into other people and really not finding it for myself, which is why the album took so long, which is why I couldn't finish the album. And so I wanted to focus more on performing and learning new songs and writing new songs and things like that. And I've been doing a little bit of that as much as I could, and then, lo and behold, we found out we were pregnant. So we had a baby almost two years ago now, and so he derailed all this stuff.

Eric [00:22:57]:
They do that, so, yeah, he derailed everything. Was not ready for that, but love him to death. His name's DJ, and he's upstairs with his grandparents right now, but, yeah, it's. It's been a blast getting to do all this stuff.

Steve [00:23:12]:
Yeah, yeah. Trying to balance family and kids and jobs and guitar and bands, and it gets to be a lot, for sure.

Eric [00:23:22]:
Yeah, yeah.

Steve [00:23:24]:
Cool.

Eric [00:23:24]:
So that's. That's. That's been teaching online since 2007 and in person since about 2012.

Steve [00:23:30]:
Well, that's great. I'm glad to have you aboard here at Guitar Zoom. I I'm very excited to have you.

Eric [00:23:36]:
It's great to be back.

Steve [00:23:37]:
Yeah, that's great.

Eric [00:23:38]:
My wife kept telling me, you gotta do something. You gotta get involved in something. Cause what you're doing, just. I'm not a salesperson. I like making things right. And so I'll make things and then forget about it and go on to the next thing, and then that thing will sit and linger and linger and linger, and I'll get a sale here and there. You know, I won't really promote it, and it's like, it's done. She's like, you need to get involved with somebody that knows what they're doing.

Eric [00:24:01]:
And now I feel like I'm there. I've got a team of people that I can work with and I can contribute to, and that motivates me, and so I'm glad to be on board. Something like that.

Steve [00:24:13]:
That's great. Cool. Well, just so everybody knows, of course, the guitar Zoom academy is something that we have here@guitarzoom.com, that you can check out, and we've got a roster of teachers as amazing as Eric is. So, for instance, if you were interested in learning how to play blues, you know, Eric could be a great guy. Or if you're looking at playing bluegrass, you had mentioned you play acoustic electric, but then you. Did you say you play something else, too, besides six string?

Eric [00:24:43]:
Oh, I play some instruments, but I don't really. I'm not good enough to teach them. I mean, I can play bass. I can play a little piano, you know.

Steve [00:24:50]:
Yeah. You don't play with, like, mandolin or anything like that, do you?

Eric [00:24:55]:
Oh, no, no. It'd be nice to be able to play mandolin just for another bluegrass instrument.

Steve [00:24:59]:
I feel. I feel the same way about all those instruments. I like playing them. There's no way I'm going to teach them. There's no way.

Eric [00:25:05]:
Yeah. Yes, exactly. Guitar is my forte and that's what I'll be teaching.

Steve [00:25:09]:
That's me too.

Eric [00:25:10]:
That and writing because I love to write too.

Steve [00:25:12]:
So right now you've got recording skills, too, so.

Eric [00:25:15]:
Yes, yes.

Steve [00:25:16]:
Yeah. Very cool. All right, well, I'm not going to take any more of your time. Eric, thank you so much for hanging out with me today and chatting with me and letting people know a little bit about yourself.

Eric [00:25:25]:
So, Steve, it's been great. Glad to be aboard. Cool. Thank you so much for having me on. Had a great.

Steve [00:25:31]:
Absolutely. We'll talk to you again soon. Okay.

Eric [00:25:33]:
All right, see you.