Unfolding the Magic: A Deep Dive into Ciari Foldable Guitars with Steve Stine

Hey everyone, Steve Stine here, and thanks for tuning in to this episode of the Steve Stine Guitar Podcast. Today, I've got something really exciting lined up for you. I'm sharing an interview I recently did with the team at Ciari Guitars during my visit to their factory in Nashville. If you're not familiar with Ciari Guitars, they specialize in high-quality, foldable guitars—perfect for musicians who are always on the move.

In this episode, we delve into the history of Ciari Guitars, their innovative design, and the significant improvements they've made over the years. We'll also talk about how these guitars are a game-changer for traveling musicians and the impressive list of artists who are using them. So whether you're constantly on tour or just need a reliable, portable guitar, you'll want to stick around for this one. And don't forget to check out Ciariguitars.com for more info. Enjoy the episode!

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Transcript

Steve [00:00:01]:
Hey, Steve Stine here, and thank you for joining me for this episode of the Steve Stine Guitar podcast. What we're going to be doing today is showing you an interview that I did from the guys at Ciari guitars. Now, I was in Nashville just recently and taught a two day guitar clinic out there, and I stopped at the Ciari guitar factory to talk about Ciari guitars. Now, if you don't know Ciari guitars, I would highly recommend you check them out. C I A R I guitars, basically, what they are, are a high quality guitar that is foldable. Now, this company has been around for quite a while, although they've made some major changes to their guitars in the last couple of years to make them far more stable. And the thing is, what's really important to understand about cri guitars is that they're not foldable, cheap guitars. They're high quality guitars that happen to fold.

Steve [00:00:59]:
Now, why would you want it to fold? Well, obviously, if you're someone who travels a lot, but space is an issue. You know, most certainly maybe in a small vehicle that you're driving or you've got a, you know, a show and you've got to take an airplane, you know, maybe you're flying out for a session or something like that. I know a lot of session players that have been using cra guitars and as well as people like, you know, Steve Stevens, if you know who he is, Elvis Costello has been using one on stage lately, that sort of thing. There's all kinds of players that have been using them. But basically, what makes it so great is, when I travel, if I wind up in a hotel for a few days, instead of bringing a full size guitar and then having to check it or hope I can get it on the plane and not under the plane. I hate stress the way it is. And so, with the Ciara guitar, the great thing is that I can just put it under my seats or put it in the overhead and call it a day, and I'm done. So this interview is me talking to the guys at Ciari about the history of the guitar, the company, and, you know, up and coming things that they've got.

Steve [00:02:07]:
And I think you're really gonna enjoy this. And again, if you get a chance, please check them out. Ciariguitars.com.

Speaker B [00:02:13]:
All right, so I just want to let you know that I'm here at the Ciari factory, and we're gonna be talking about the cre guitar.

Steve [00:02:20]:
The different styles of guitar, the history.

Speaker B [00:02:21]:
Of it, all the stuff that they've got here, options and things like that, that Ciari offers.

Steve [00:02:27]:
And, yeah, we're gonna learn some stuff here.

Speaker B [00:02:33]:
So give me the history of the cri guitar and kind of walk me through the early stages of Ciari and where we're at now, if that's cool.

Speaker C [00:02:42]:
Sure. Basically, the history goes back with Jonathan Spangler, our CEO, saw kind of a in the market for being able to travel with guitars via airline, via just small compartments, and just trying to give people options as far as, like, what they travel with. Because a lot of guitar players, as we know, you go to the airport, there's not a lot of room, and you're lucky if the airline is accommodating to a musician, which a lot of musicians fly. It's much cheaper than running buses and everything else now. Right. So what he's done is built a professional guitar that travels. It folds essentially in half. And he kind of worked his way up just through some prototyping, which we have our prototypes here.

Speaker C [00:03:29]:
This would be our first general prototype. It's just 3d printed hinge, essentially. I mean, that's kind of where it all started. Was the longest part, the most fragile part of most guitars is the neck. How can we get around that? So he built this initial prototype.

Speaker B [00:03:46]:
And where did the inspiration come from for this sort of thing?

Speaker C [00:03:50]:
Good question.

Speaker B [00:03:51]:
Because you had mentioned what does he do for a living or what?

Speaker C [00:03:53]:
Oh, yeah. Jonathan's a patent attorney and also has a background in medical tags. So he helped, you know, make different equipment, I believe, for like, spine to hips and stuff.

Speaker B [00:04:05]:
Because you say that, and then I look at that and I go, yeah.

Speaker C [00:04:07]:
And he has a very particular process with unfolding and folding guitars. It's almost set up like how meta professionals would do it in a very routine type of fashion. So it's really kind of a neat background as far as, like, being introduced into the music field, the music manufacturing stuff.

Speaker B [00:04:25]:
Right.

Speaker C [00:04:26]:
But it went from this guy here into a metal version, which this is also just 3d printed. It looks like metal, but this is essentially the kind of working prototype that's pretty close to what we're using right now. And it went from here to a physical wood model with frets just to kind of see how that would work. This also has indentations to help grab your strings and keep them in line, which is, again, part of the now product as well. And then went from that into an actual working, well, working prototype of can this actually happen? Proof of concept idea. So this essentially has a fashion or a different kind of mechanism on how to make this work, but essentially does the same concept, just a more visual scale.

Steve [00:05:19]:
Right?

Speaker C [00:05:21]:
So from there, we basically have now developed a working guitar, which is this right here is our p 90 duo was using fishman fluids pickups. So he's integrated that entire thing into this, which the way we do it is we unfold. We put a little sticker there so you'll know when it's closed, how to reopen it. And you're going to grab fold back, and it locks in a magnet there. And this will fit underneath your carry on seat or above you in just about any airline.

Speaker B [00:05:54]:
Right? So for me, the big thing, and I know if you've watched any of my videos before, you know, we've talked about this, but what I find amazing about it is in my personal experiences. Cause I do fly a lot, and I do like to bring a guitar. Before this, that meant either bringing the guitar in a gig bag and then panicking, trying to get to the gate quicker than anybody else, hoping that I get on the plane and they would allow me to keep the bag and the guitar on the plane instead of under the plane, which people will always say things like, well, legally you're supposed to. You know, they need to allow you to do that if you've ever flown before. That is not true at all. I've had to put my guitar under the plane many times. And when you're putting it in a soft shell case under the plane, it's kind of terrifying.

Speaker C [00:06:42]:
Right?

Speaker B [00:06:43]:
So I stopped doing that, and I moved to a TSA style hard shell case that I would check, which is great. And sometimes I still do that when needed. The problem, of course, is that is not cheap. And then I got more luggage than I need to carry. So if I'm doing something that either a is quick and I want to do it cheap, or I want to have a guitar with me, like right now, I'm out in Nashville. I'm out here for a week. I need something to play while I'm in the hotel.

Steve [00:07:14]:
And I don't want to pay for.

Speaker B [00:07:16]:
Bringing a guitar along and checking it and doing all that kind of stuff.

Speaker C [00:07:19]:
You forgot one thing, though, also, when you check bags, sometimes it doesn't show up.

Speaker B [00:07:23]:
Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Speaker C [00:07:25]:
Makes their a lot of times. Or, you know, like you said, makes their one piece.

Speaker B [00:07:29]:
Right.

Speaker C [00:07:30]:
And if you're carrying. If anybody has ever bought an anvil case or anything that's not, you know, plastic core or whatever, you know, like a plastic case, it is so heavy.

Speaker B [00:07:41]:
That's right.

Speaker C [00:07:42]:
You're be lucky to have casters on it, if you're.

Speaker B [00:07:45]:
That's right. So now you're rolling through lax with this heavy ass case and your luggage and everything else, which, again, is fine, but it's also expensive.

Speaker C [00:07:53]:
Yeah.

Speaker B [00:07:54]:
So this was great because, you know, I really got interested last this January at NAMM because I was out there for a week and I didn't have a guitar, and I was like, God dang it, this is just the perfect thing. So if you don't travel, you never travel. This might not be what you need, but if you're someone who travels a lot, like, coming out here, this literally went in my overhead and my briefcase and plane landed. I grabbed my stuff, and I was gone.

Speaker C [00:08:23]:
Yeah.

Speaker B [00:08:24]:
So. And what I love is what you said before, that if you think about it, because people will go, well, it's a folding guitar. It's a gimmick thing. And what you said was perfect, that it really is a professional guitar that happens to fold.

Speaker C [00:08:36]:
Yes.

Speaker B [00:08:37]:
Because it sounds amazing and it plays great. And I'm not just saying that if you ever see me anywhere, you need to ask to play it, because I have it with me just about everywhere I go now.

Speaker C [00:08:45]:
We want to feel as natural as possible to being like your guitar. We don't want to. Not to discredit any other brands. They all do their own thing, and that's fine. Sticking body parts on something can be a little nerve wracking, can be another part. You have to keep up with keeping it all consolidated. One piece, one fluid motion, you're good to go. And it feels natural.

Speaker C [00:09:08]:
It feels like a normal guitar. Normal.

Speaker B [00:09:10]:
Right. Well, and let's talk about. Let's talk about that. So from the professional aspect, let's talk about the different models that you've got and what's available for people.

Speaker C [00:09:21]:
Okay.

Speaker B [00:09:22]:
Cause I know the p 90. I believe the p 90 is new. Right?

Speaker C [00:09:25]:
Yeah. We have a p 90 duo, which is basically ridge and neck, being our p 90s. We use most Seymour Duncan's, but we do active as well. These are fishman fluents, and we do offer a plug in for USB to recharge. So you're not carrying 9 volts around. You know, try to make that as easy for the player as possible. And that comes with your USB cord, so don't worry about having to buy another one. So, yeah, we have the p 90 solo in addition, which is just the bridge pickup.

Speaker C [00:09:56]:
Again, it's volume and tone. One cool thing about these fishman fluents, I'll just throw it out there is they have these things called voices in them. And it's. So. It's more complicated than my pay grade.

Steve [00:10:09]:
I don't.

Speaker C [00:10:09]:
This stuff, I don't remember, but it basically has multiple voices through the. It's not just a coil tap. It's like a full on, like, system that they have set up. It's really neat for tone shaping and just kind of creating your own sound. Yeah. So we have the duo, we have the solo, and then we have our standard line, which is two humbuckers. And we can do coil taps for those, or coil splitting. We can do a lot of different types of wiring as well.

Speaker C [00:10:39]:
So, you know, if you have a specific need, you just talk to us and work it out. You know, figure out what we can do to accommodate.

Speaker B [00:10:45]:
The other thing, too, is that I just talked to you about the possibility of taking mine and putting custom pickups in there, because I generally use emgs.

Speaker C [00:10:54]:
Yeah.

Speaker B [00:10:54]:
So you do custom work, too. So I can send you the guitar. You'll put the emgs in, do all the work.

Speaker C [00:10:59]:
Yeah. We have some limitations, but for the most part, we found that most pickups will work right in our situation. There's just. It's a depth issue. So if it's too tall, we'll definitely know before we put them in, we'll be able to measure it out.

Speaker B [00:11:13]:
So calling you is probably a good idea.

Speaker C [00:11:15]:
Yeah, yeah. If you're wanting something custom, it's a good idea just to give us a call or an email and kind of talk us through what you're wanting, and we'll figure out how to accommodate you. So.

Speaker B [00:11:21]:
Right. You do custom paid jobs and stuff like that, too?

Speaker C [00:11:24]:
We do offer that. It's another service on top of everything. So if there's something you're wanting again, just let us know. We've got some bodies that, you know, can use a new paint, or we have one that we need flat printing on. We had a company ask for promotional stuff for Christmas thing they were doing for their employees. So we had ten guitars. It was a racing fuel company. Had their logo all the way across the front.

Speaker C [00:11:49]:
Yeah, it was awesome. We were working back and forth with them to make sure it's perfect for them to send them. So, yeah, it was great. Cool.

Speaker B [00:11:57]:
So they come stock with ten gauge strings, is that right?

Speaker C [00:12:00]:
Correct. Yes. But, you know, we've done heavier, we've done lighter gauge. You know, we're.

Speaker B [00:12:05]:
Yeah, well, okay, so let's talk about that for a second, too, because, you know, I got it. It played great, but I'm more of a nine gauge player. So I put the nine gauge strings on there, and I will say that when the ten gauge strings were on there and I would fold it and I would bring it back, it was almost perfect in terms of its tuning when I put the nines on there. Now, when I fold it and I bring it back, it requires a little bit of tuning.

Speaker C [00:12:31]:
Right.

Speaker B [00:12:32]:
And what I found interesting is when I. When I talked about this on some other videos, people are like, oh, my God, why doesn't it stay in tune? And. And I was trying to remind them, like, when I wake up every morning and I go to my studio and I'm going to make video.

Speaker C [00:12:46]:
Yeah.

Speaker B [00:12:46]:
The first thing I do to my guitar that's been sitting there doing nothing all night is make sure it's in tune. So my point is that even if you were to fold it and then you bring it back and you put it in place and it's a little out of tune. You have a tuner and you just tune it a little bit and then it's back again. So I just want to explain that, because on the ten gauge, I didn't see that at all in the nine gauge that I'm using now, it is worth having to tune the guitar, which I do every day anyway. It's worth tuning it because it feels more comfortable to me to play the nine gauge strings than it is. Yeah.

Speaker C [00:13:21]:
And I'll say that it's the upper echelon of a 90% of it will be in tune every time you take it out. If it was in tune when you folded it. Right. You know, it's like you said, if you're gonna show up at a gig, you want to double check everything. You don't just want to plug in and just straight go. We're not air clapping. Walk again. And being like, it's all set up for you.

Speaker B [00:13:43]:
Well, and then there's the. You know, the. You know, you're going on a plane, you're coming off a plane. Maybe it was x amount of humidity or temperature when you left. I mean, there's. So my point is, if it's possible, try not to get too hung up on the tuning thing, because all you have to do is tune the guitar.

Speaker C [00:13:57]:
And then you're ready to go.

Speaker B [00:13:59]:
So then the next thing is moving from that. Could we talk a little bit? Because I saw the plucking machine. So you guys plaque every single one of these?

Speaker C [00:14:08]:
Yeah. Yeah. Everything is done through the plek, and the plek measures our accuracy by ten thousandths of an inch. So we can work our way, actually, over to the pipe machine. A body up there right now that just went through a final scan and needs a minor adjustment.

Speaker B [00:14:21]:
Okay.

Speaker C [00:14:21]:
So. But, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B [00:14:24]:
All right, perfect.

Speaker D [00:14:25]:
So do you know Joe Glazer?

Speaker B [00:14:28]:
Yeah.

Speaker D [00:14:28]:
Local Luther?

Speaker B [00:14:29]:
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker D [00:14:30]:
So, yeah, he sort of brought plec to the country. He sort of is helping, like, get plec machines set up in shops here. And he met our CEO, Jonathan and Mann. And basically, he was like, jonathan showed Joe the guitar and was like, well, if you can't pluck it, like, you can't really do anything, so it's not going to work. So they took it back to the shop and folded it, scanned it, folded it, scanned it, and it came back to the right shape every single time.

Speaker C [00:14:59]:
Okay.

Speaker D [00:15:00]:
Joe was like, well, it looks like you're onto something here. So Joe Glazer has been a part of the company for a while now, and he helped get us set up with this plex machine. So, basically, what this does is it does a scan here, and the green line is where the ideal spot where you want the tops of the frets to be. And so you can see there's a little bit of a ski jump here. It's a little bit high. Once you take the strings off, then it will just go through, and it'll cut all the frets down. And the blade is actually concave so that it puts the crown on the frets automatically. And so, really, all we have to.

Speaker C [00:15:43]:
Do once it comes out of here is just polish them and we're done.

Speaker D [00:15:47]:
So, yeah, this is a great little machine. It also does. It planes the board, and it'll do. It'll cut the nuthenne slots for the strings, and, yeah, it's just super accurate.

Speaker C [00:16:00]:
And every single neck we.

Speaker D [00:16:01]:
We produce here goes through the puck machine. So that's pretty cool.

Speaker B [00:16:07]:
So how long does it take to pluck it, then?

Speaker D [00:16:09]:
About 20 minutes to cut the frets, and a nut cut is about five minutes. Planing and neck is, like, 1015 minutes.

Speaker C [00:16:17]:
So it doesn't take too long.

Speaker B [00:16:19]:
That's awesome.

Speaker D [00:16:19]:
And, like, it's cool. We can just let it go and then do other things while it's.

Speaker C [00:16:23]:
While it's working.

Speaker D [00:16:23]:
So it's pretty cool, right?

Speaker C [00:16:26]:
It's a third employee. Yeah.

Speaker B [00:16:28]:
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I know. Like I mentioned, I know Sweetwater has a plucking machine, and that's become really, really popular to get them really dialed in. So when you play it, everything feels comfortable and feels more symmetrical and smooth across the breadboard.

Speaker C [00:16:41]:
So, yeah.

Speaker D [00:16:43]:
Yeah. It's like, it's really valuable to what we do here. We really couldn't have the hinge in.

Speaker C [00:16:48]:
The middle of the neck without the micro machine.

Speaker D [00:16:50]:
It's like you can't just estimate. It has to be exact.

Speaker B [00:16:54]:
You know? That reminds me, if we can go. Come back over here. What I think is really interesting. So the first time you play one, I mean, when you look at it, it's like. Because this is a lot like mine. So if you look at it, it looks complex, but from the consumer side, it really isn't, because all you have to do is grab this and watch your little hands. Yep, yep.

Speaker C [00:17:21]:
I don't.

Speaker B [00:17:22]:
And then pull that. Right. And then this folds over.

Speaker C [00:17:27]:
Yep.

Speaker B [00:17:27]:
That's what it does. And then you put it back.

Speaker C [00:17:29]:
Think of it like a spring loaded tail piece.

Speaker B [00:17:32]:
Right.

Speaker C [00:17:32]:
I mean, that's essentially what you're doing. The only thing is it's doing the other thing of locking the neck.

Steve [00:17:37]:
Right.

Speaker C [00:17:37]:
As well. So you're just releasing all the tension off the strings, and it's giving you your slack. And we basically built a system that carries all the slack to keep everything in the same place.

Speaker B [00:17:49]:
Right. So if you. I don't know if you can see this on there, but you can see there's this little piece right here, right above the nut.

Steve [00:17:56]:
So the strings go through there so.

Speaker B [00:17:58]:
They don't slip out when you let the tension off of there. So what's really cool, though, is once you get it back. Well, the other thing is, is that I. I had read somewhere something about, like, there's 138 pounds of pressure or something like that.

Speaker C [00:18:11]:
Yeah. That's general strain tension.

Speaker B [00:18:13]:
Okay. So when you go to this thing, it reduces it to, like, eight pounds or something.

Speaker C [00:18:17]:
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B [00:18:18]:
So it literally takes nothing to. To move that. But here's what I was gonna talk about was this thing, because when I was first gonna play this, I was worried that this was gonna be uncomfortable to play, if you can see that, where all of this takes place. But it's. But it's not like it's really easy to play over the top of that, which is so surprising, because you think that that would be.

Speaker C [00:18:39]:
Yeah. And I do almost all the most of the neck production since I've been working here. And that's, like, the biggest thing for me is making sure that transition is as smooth as possible. When we get ones that aren't, like, they get rejected. I mean, it just happens sometimes, like, standard a little too much, and it's just not good. But, yeah. It's one guy told us and I thought this was the best way of saying because, like, you will feel it because it gets colder.

Speaker B [00:19:06]:
Yeah.

Speaker C [00:19:07]:
If you're playing a long gig and your hand gets sore, just, you know.

Speaker E [00:19:10]:
Put it right there.

Speaker C [00:19:11]:
Rest it. It's like a little ice pack.

Speaker D [00:19:12]:
It's nice.

Speaker C [00:19:13]:
Like, it stays cool. So I never thought of that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the best one I've heard so far. That's cool. Yeah.

Speaker B [00:19:19]:
So, what artists do you guys have playing, playing these right now?

Speaker C [00:19:23]:
Oh, man, I hope I don't. I'm gonna mess some of the names up. So I'm gonna tell you more bands than anything we have. Well, Elvis Costello, that was a shock to all of us because we were just working and Skyler was going through our orders list and be like, help us. Costello just ordered, like, none of us got a heads up.

Speaker D [00:19:41]:
Right?

Speaker C [00:19:42]:
Yeah, yeah. We thought it was funny and we're like, oh, okay, cool. So we just sent him, we figured, you know, probably score is 1000 guitar. Like, who knows?

Speaker B [00:19:49]:
I don't.

Speaker C [00:19:49]:
I don't understand, like, you know, some of the higher echelon players and their mentality on buying things. And he, within, like, two weeks after we sent it to him, we saw him in Denmark playing a live show. Unfolded and folded the guitar in front of the entire audience. And we're just like, wow, this is the best advertisement get. Yeah, but we've got. Richard Fortis has one, Johnny Mars has one. And all these guys don't just have one. They're playing it.

Speaker B [00:20:16]:
Right.

Speaker C [00:20:17]:
Like, I'm not saying, like, you just bought it to sit. Like, we have pictures of them playing it in front of people. Right? I know Sharkey that plays with John Mayer. I think he has one now, too. Cool in the gang, I believe. Have one. Three. Yeah, I think they have three.

Speaker C [00:20:34]:
Fred Armisen has two, which was really cool. He was doing, like, a live stand up thing. Like, he does a musician focused comedy set. And he had bought one of ours to go via car to different vinyl shops to play these, like, stand up shows or whatever he was doing. And then he bought another one like, six months later. We're like, perfect. Like, that's awesome. That's testament to us.

Speaker C [00:20:58]:
And we're doing something cool here, so. But, yeah, alicia Keys. I mean, the list goes on. We're, like, trying to put all these pictures up and we're having to build labels for all the pictures because we're forgetting all the names. So it's a really cool process. And a lot of these guys are showing up on their own. Yeah, no, the artist list just keeps growing. And I guess in Judas Priest came by the shop, and that was, like, so much fun, like, getting to listen to them play and jamden.

Speaker C [00:21:23]:
Right. I mean, it's kind of. It breaks your brain a little bit after a while, if you're just like, okay, who's the other guy from this band? And then they show up, and you're like, hey, I forgot.

Speaker D [00:21:36]:
Sorry, man.

Speaker B [00:21:37]:
No. And I think that's amazing, because, I mean, it just shows. It's a testament to the quality of the instrument. And for me, again, it's not getting paid to say this. I just think it's amazing. Like, when I was at namm this year, people always ask me, what was your favorite thing that you saw? And this was it, which is why I'm here right now. This was. This was the thing.

Speaker B [00:21:56]:
I was like, man, that would have saved me, because then a couple of days after Namm, I had to play with some guys. I hadn't played for three days other than a little bit at Namm, because I didn't have anything to practice on. So that's when I got a hold of the gentleman behind the camera.

Speaker C [00:22:10]:
Yeah.

Speaker B [00:22:11]:
I was like, I got to figure something out.

Speaker C [00:22:14]:
And that's the other thing is, like, you know when you travel with, like, a gig bag, especially if you're traveling ones just a yemenite solo, because not really a whole lot of real estate in that bag for other things. So, like, not only do we have the gig bag that comes with the guitar, we also offer a backpack as well, which can carry your clothes, can carry pedals. I mean, we really set up that as a travel bag. It sits on your roller bag. We've got the slots for it. We've got all the extra padding to keep you, like, you know, cool. Not, like, get all sweaty, carry it through the airport. Because we all know, especially in Nashville, gate c 26, for whatever reason, is always your flight when you have gear.

Speaker C [00:22:50]:
No idea why they do that. You feel like the Nashville airport would accommodate the musicians a little better. Be like, hey, maybe we should put those more frequent guys carrying all the big equipment.

Speaker B [00:22:59]:
You gotta keep the hippies over the other.

Speaker C [00:23:01]:
No, hit the BNA.

Speaker B [00:23:02]:
But come on.

Speaker C [00:23:04]:
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker B [00:23:06]:
Well, thanks. I appreciate the information. This has been awesome.

Speaker C [00:23:08]:
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for coming by, and really, we're.

Speaker B [00:23:12]:
Just glad you liked it.

Speaker C [00:23:13]:
Yeah, very cool.

Speaker B [00:23:14]:
Thank you. Tell me a little bit about these.

Steve [00:23:23]:
Pickups that are in this one.

Speaker E [00:23:24]:
So these are brand new. Seymour Duncan p 90 silencer pickups.

Speaker C [00:23:29]:
Okay.

Speaker E [00:23:29]:
So it's all the great tone of p 90 that you know and love without the hum.

Speaker C [00:23:34]:
Oh, yeah.

Speaker E [00:23:35]:
Dead quiet. I mean, we're in here with like neon lights, fluorescent lights.

Speaker B [00:23:40]:
Yeah. Right.

Speaker E [00:23:40]:
No hum whatsoever.

Speaker B [00:23:50]:
Well, that's great.

Speaker E [00:23:51]:
Yeah, it's an option. It's a. It's a $100.

Speaker B [00:24:02]:
That's awesome.

Speaker E [00:24:03]:
Very quiet.

Speaker B [00:24:04]:
Yeah.

Speaker E [00:24:04]:
And so these are like a $100 upgrade, so.

Speaker B [00:24:08]:
Right.

Speaker E [00:24:08]:
A p 90 duo is 1699 is a 1799.

Steve [00:24:14]:
I see.

Speaker E [00:24:14]:
If you want to get these, what.

Speaker B [00:24:15]:
Normally comes in the 1699 one Seymour Duncan.

Speaker E [00:24:19]:
These custom wound p 90s. That sound fantastic.

Speaker B [00:24:22]:
Gotcha.

Speaker E [00:24:22]:
Just old school. I mean, the hum is also part of the charm.

Speaker B [00:24:26]:
Yeah. Right.

Speaker E [00:24:27]:
So it's like a strat, right. You know, but if you want dead quiet, this is a great video.

Speaker B [00:24:32]:
That's awesome.

Steve [00:24:38]:
All right, thank you so much for joining me for this podcast. And again, check out Ciari guitars. Ciari guitars.com and see what you think of them. And thank you so much for listening. Please make sure that you subscribe wherever it is that you're listening, and I sure do appreciate it.