RealSpit with Don Thompson
RealSpit with Don Thompson
Chicago Streets Part 1
Join us as we discuss the real truth about life in the streets of Chicago and the suburbs. Stay Dumb Flyy gives his account of growing up in Gangs, Jail and street politics.. Very interesting retrospect on life in these streets!!
Welcome to real estate with Don Thompson
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Unknown Speaker :what up what up what up what up we got brother Brandon in the building with us today what's going on
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Unknown Speaker :All right. All right.
Unknown Speaker :We'll get this kicked off right away. So are we talking about this? This is the streets episode and some Other things that actually happens in the street is going to be true stories. Absolutely. Anything that you don't want to answer. Just stay quiet.
Unknown Speaker :That's that's the coal industry. So anyway,
Unknown Speaker :just stay quiet. Anything that you don't feel comfortable answering just don't say nothing. Um, but I can I can confirm that everything that will be asked that he can answer is going to be 100% true. Absolutely real stories real do real stories. So let me kick it off where where'd you grew up at? And tell us about your childhood and all that stuff. We're gonna start from from from birth to say third or fourth grade?
Unknown Speaker :Ah, well, I was in Chicago during that time. I was born in Chicago Cook County Hospital. You know, I'm saying at FAU. I started off in the hundreds. You know, I'm saying I attended Metcalf and then from there before we moved out to LA I'm at now and you know, Lake County. I stayed in the Robert center projects, you know, 5001 South federal, and I stayed there for like, a few years. It was you know, it was real rare. It was a big difference. Real treacherous real everything so you got to be on point at all times oh it
Unknown Speaker :was it was it was it was it was was it more treacherous than the 100 absolutely
Unknown Speaker :what over it was over it was over kill man like it was it's cuz it's like it's like it's like a gated community without a gate it's like you just you just put all the savages in one spot and like you got builders right next to each other that's rivals like literally right next to each other how you gonna go to the store how you gonna go to school how you gonna go to the bus stop how you go without getting into any type of confrontation or conflict that's why guys always say like man the opposite be one block over literally and you got to be able to point the what now the opposite it was up to me. Well this is you know the opposition rival gangs rival whatever you know people that oppose you okay
Unknown Speaker :so that's what the opposite me absolutely okay okay just for the listeners. So just in case you know we have some people that don't understand Understanding
Unknown Speaker :how old were you? When you said you were in a Robert Taylor project? How
Unknown Speaker :are you? Um, that was third, fourth and fifth grade. So you were like, what? 10? Um, yeah. Okay, a seven, eight. I moved out here when I was 11. So I was, that's how I was 11.
Unknown Speaker :Okay, okay. What sort of crazy things that you see? Or did you? I mean, was it just like regular life? Are you living in the Robert Taylor's or, or what did it seem anything seemed abnormal? Did you notice anything? Like, oh, you know, so it's a right.
Unknown Speaker :No, I didn't at the time, right. And I tell all my friends and stuff like that, like, I didn't know that life was different. So back then I didn't know I was poor. Because everybody around us was going through the same thing, right? And it wasn't a white people around us and it wasn't Oh, Latin people so you can get a look into their lives and all this. It was just strictly blacks over here. And basically going through the Same thing and if you're doing a little bit better than them, you consider to be good. You know, you want to struggle and you you and your family good because I want bar and sugar and salt. You're coming to Yo mama for that stuff. So I didn't really know I was poor, or none of that until I moved to Lake town here. When I moved to Lake County. That's when I really realized that Joey pour. I'm saying, We pour.
Unknown Speaker :Where did you move to? When you move to Lake County? Where did you come when you moved out here?
Unknown Speaker :So so let me let me back it up. Right. So we first moved to Lake County. We moved around Lake for six months. It was two races out there. Right. So we moved. Then we moved on the west side of Waukegan. So in the middle of the school year, we moved, we moved the west side of wall kid we would stand on budget for six months. And then from there we moved on the set and we had been there till I was grown.
Unknown Speaker :Okay, because I was gonna say to the west side is was considered I guess more. It was more conservative.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, people got more Money over there. It was. Yeah, it was homes found.
Unknown Speaker :They didn't have any like, project builders on the West High right?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, no projects a project for the record. First of all, they not projects, the makary projects, the the Genesee, the Utica dam is not project G.
Unknown Speaker :Well, I'm not from Waukegan. So I'm just saying to me, that wasn't a project
Unknown Speaker :tonight, but I respect them as projects because it's a difference in their environment. So when you talk about I can see the difference and everything out here I can see why they say oh them the projects because the people that's in those areas and as a part of those apartment complexes, right. It's kind of like contrast to the areas in Chicago. That was bad. You know,
Unknown Speaker :I noticed like when people say they moved from Chicago to the suburbs coming this way, they say you know is it was was it? I know you said you feel poor here but was it did you feel was it as crucial as far as how you moved in the danger. Did you know It was like so mouse
Unknown Speaker :so smart. So
Unknown Speaker :for the record, I would I tell everybody I love Lake County Waukegan, right. I prefer it over Chicago, I hate Chicago, right? Because there's nothing there's no is no reason for anybody to be glorified you know them type of conditions because it's not humane in my personal opinion. Anytime you got to walk with a gun out to your car, or you got an is that's just how it was and back then you get caught in a certain area which are hat time. They don't take care of you. They don't they don't they don't take care of you. You're not gonna beat you down and tell you never come back over there with your head like that. You got to have your head straight to the front or off. That's just how it was back then you just couldn't do it. So like it's a huge difference to me, but I love this. This is now your kids grew up here.
Unknown Speaker :Mm hmm. Is you think it's the same now as when you first came here.
Unknown Speaker :No, it's gonna be a good one got worse. Yeah. And that's big. I think that's because a lot of people from Chicago migrated this way. No, I'm saying because they did force a lot of people from Chicago to the south suburbs and the North suburbs. And if you look at all the surrounding areas like Joliet Bolingbrook, romeoville did you go north appear Waukegan everything? You see the violence went up. Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :Because they that's what was the year that they tore down. Covering the towers, they tore down a project in Toronto.
Unknown Speaker :I think they started selling rubber tailors down and I want to say like 98 Yep.
Unknown Speaker :So they start tearing down the projects and you think that the violence even though it was violence, it still was contained because of the projects but when you tear him down and
Unknown Speaker :push all that, what did you where they go, it's like it's like opening light up
Unknown Speaker :on the roads. They scatter, so they gotta go. So let me let me tell you something, boy. I can remember being you know, a young man back then and I used to party on the north side. A lot and On our way to the clubs around division pass Cabrini in the summertime, you want to stop it in overhead lights, if he was in St. Joe SS want to get run over because it'd be 1000 people and I'm saying 1000 people outside in the streets 1000 people, and if you stop at a red light if you want to, if at some point they won't, don't take care of you on the spot on the spot.
Unknown Speaker :I had a client that lived in Cabrini greens and I was growing up I remember visiting, you know, when I was younger, because that was like a field trip, you know, leaving from the southern suburbs. My grandmother lived on the west side. My mother was born in Chicago, my grandfather lived on the west side. And you know, he was to suffer.
Unknown Speaker :You don't understand that. It was so you got to this day when I was in Chicago. We use this like it was like a like a vacation. The chickens would come and it was six flags. Yeah, like the most amazing thing going on in our lives back there. Trust now is like six last like come on man for
Unknown Speaker :trusting our understanding. What more than you know? Absolutely.
Unknown Speaker :So, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker :So, of course, you you come into your teenage years here in the suburbs. Okay, so you you come into your teenage years and in the 90s Absolutely, yeah. So, gang affiliation? Yeah. So what At what age would you say you start, you know,
Unknown Speaker :well, you know, there's this old saying I was born and and somewhat soreness. So like, you know, I was kind of like, claiming and rapping when I was young, you know, I'm saying so, when I was claiming, wasn't on the west side of Waukegan or attended my school it was all CVS at my school and the only thing that was folks was the maniacs You know, I'm saying so that's why I linked there when it clicked in with with the maniacs at that time. But then when I moved on the set I was having and it was like the guys was everywhere. But again, I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't demo with them because the way I saved things from growing up out there was totally different from the way they had things because they had people that you know, that was like leaders and running things that I necessarily didn't agree with, you know, I'm saying so I stayed away from it, but I still demo with some of the guys
Unknown Speaker :for the for our listeners, could you please explain who the guys are?
Unknown Speaker :Well, you know, so the guys is considered you know, the phones. I'll be hearing phones and stuff say that like these new age gang members, they say the guys they don't know what that is like. So you got the GDS? Hmm You know, I'm saying that's the guy's you got you got the beauties that say the guys as well because they all up on it, the folks. So that's just who the guys is.
Unknown Speaker :I touch on one other thing real quick. Um,
Unknown Speaker :I want to try to understand the major problem. Um, since you know, all you guys are supposed to be folks, what's the worst? What's the what was the problem between the BBs and the GDS? Ah,
Unknown Speaker :you know what I Be honest with y'all. I just I personally, I know a little bit of the history right? But I tied all out into jealousy. Right? And that plays a part and mostly everything that we deal with. So in the beginning, I guess it was like the BG DS at the end of the day, even though the bees and the beauties of the GDS was into it. At the end of the day, they chief is that was the disciple of our disciples King David, you know, I'm saying so at the end of the day, we had the honor that that's what we derive from this whole big thing. So I really didn't know I don't I didn't know the history about it, but my cousin was a bt You know, I'm saying they trace we pitchforks. And that's how I was in they consider to go left before they go right. So you know, the folks go right before they go left, but BTS for some reason, they was considered to go left before they go, right. I don't know why I guess is the numbers because our numbers was way huge in the numbers and then it was more GDP in a city then everywhere around the world, like if you look at it, the GDS is in America though, right? So, okay, okay.
Unknown Speaker :I have a question for you first thank you for coming on appreciate it. When you first migrated to Waukegan coming from the area that you were from did you have to check yourself because you saw people who consider themselves gangsters but they really weren't compared to where you were from? What was that a challenge for you? Like you know what? I can get this dude in two minutes, but I'ma Leave me alone. I'm trying to I'm trying to do better things.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, no. Okay. And the reason the reason why I say that is because number one, I was I was scrolling by older people, right. So you got to stay you have to be subordinate. When you not subordinate out there, they don't take care of you. They really worse violating you going up in the ledger Go ahead. Correct because you plan so Whether it was right or wrong, I can voice that because when it comes it come with consequences. So there was like, structure. Yeah, it was very structured out hierarchy. It was very, very, it was very structured out there. And when I first moved out here it was to is just that the way that they was moving and doing certain things I didn't agree with. So if you don't agree with something, did you go say something and suffer the consequences if you bogus or you just go to the way far back? And that's what I chose to do, like yeah, I can I can move with some of these guys. And we go and talk or whatever, but this movement is going is you know, I am really feeling it because I felt like back then I'm just being honest with you. It was a lot of, you know, selfishness going on in this in a sense, but that's everywhere.
Unknown Speaker :So, you know, you know, amongst the gang affiliation, I'll take you in a lot of cases. You know, guys get in the streets, you start selling drugs. You know, absolutely I did a lot of that. So what ways do you think it was when you you know, start hustling
Unknown Speaker :when the age I think it was.
Unknown Speaker :So I started I started, I started hustling.
Unknown Speaker :I started hustling at 13 right? So the difference between me hustle and 30 then and these guys lesson now is my mama was still my model. So I had to answer to her. So everything that I did was very secretive and low key. It wasn't no bloating about this I still had to go to school because the guys I got the answer to them today. You can get some money but you going to school, you don't understand. And if they if you're not in tune with what's your mom, I'm saying that's that's part of everything that we learned. That's the reason why I chose to be what I was because they really was, you know, grown and people to be like, equipped and be soldiers basically and be because they was talking about economics and politics. You know, I'm saying In a demonstration back then the people just not getting that now, you know, I'm saying this is a necessity. No, that's just what the in our paperwork and our literature you know, saying that center economics and policies that they talked about that in there and they was grooming us to be better men you know but some people then they grow into that they grow into you know, whatever they
Unknown Speaker :what happens if you didn't know your literature
Unknown Speaker :you know what so a lot of people could show that what people believe man they weren't really taking care of people because they didn't know they lit it. If you claim you as one of the guys and you didn't know your paperwork, you gotta go get your get your study on they don't come back until you got this you know No. Now if you if you come back and you all know your paperwork, it will
Unknown Speaker :take you so there's there's a verity of getting taken care of I couldn't be trusted a chance or a pumpkin here because I think a lot of people don't understand. I mean, maybe you don't even know what a pumpkin hit is or maybe so. Number some people really that's an old school yeah that's
Unknown Speaker :a PhD Buckhead Deluxe. Right.
Unknown Speaker :So so everything was based on the severity hmm depending on the severity depending on the severity of the punishment it's like if you get caught outside what's your mama she might get you a little while but then you went down and broke a window she gone you know right right it's the same thing same thing.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, so you had to do some real bad to get a pumpkin here?
Unknown Speaker :No not for real
Unknown Speaker :yeah
Unknown Speaker :you had a smart mouth Do you think you know it all? Y'all want to learn nothing? Okay, we got to take care of you. We don't get you together. Okay. But pumpkin Hayabusa we're gonna see people die from that. Well, you know what not to bring up well, I obviously I am if I'm bringing it up, right. But yeah, a young man got killed out here behind one of those, you know, a violation. Hmm. So you know, some years back but one of the little guys man he Definitely died by, you know, something like that.
Unknown Speaker :Right. Right. It's unfortunate.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, you know, may rest in peace and, you know, kudos to his family, but it definitely wasn't a situation that, you know, could have been prevented. But you know,
Unknown Speaker :I have a question. What is thinking back? What was the best thing about being in that life? And what is the best thing about not being out of that?
Unknown Speaker :So, which one you want to start with first? You pick, okay, so the best thing about not being in that life, man is that I have a son. So everything that I've learned through that I can equip with equipment when I didn't have that. I didn't. I had a father and I had uncles and all that, but nobody was given me the tools right for life. And I got a son that I really love more than I love the streets. And some guys will say that but they won't take the sacrifice for themselves to to remove themselves away from that. So That was that's the best part. I ain't got to really watch for this and watch for that and I can make sure he good. But the best part about being in it, man was the money show. I was no Sisley, it sometimes I made like 10 a week. And when I say 10 times more 10,000, right, that was like at my highest moment I was making like, so like, when I was 17 years old, I had 20 k I'm 17 though so I'm like, Man, it's a lot of money. But when you but once you reach a peak, in that it just diminishes right? Every every time you reach a new peak, it diminishes this becomes small to you. Somebody say like Hey, I got 20 blind. Okay, whatever shorty you know, say so I got 100 Okay, whatever you know I'm saying talk to me when you say it when you start getting them numbers. And like that's what I really missed the most. You're saying about about really being like that and um, and not Not only that, but what it instilled in me. I really liked the the The I guess the education part of it because that played a big part of me in my in my personal opinion that played a big part of me and prosper because I took the initiative to follow what it was trying to show me. So you like the fast lane? You don't like the fast life? No mo back then you
Unknown Speaker :I love the fast like back then. I loved it. So let me ask you a question. I'm going back to the fast library. Can you remember the first time that you got popped by the police?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, man. Okay. And it was I got set up. Okay. So like by somebody you knew. So to be honest with you, I really didn't know him, but I knew of him. Right. So like, I was in Joliet. I was out here doing what I was doing. And then I went out there to take care of because it was if I make a limo, you know, no, we migrate baby. We was migrated with this knife. So I went out there and what I was getting out here for cheaper and they are going out there taking care of business, right. So one of the guys that's supposed to One of the top dogs out there. He cut it sent me like man, surely, man, let me what's what I'm like, No, no, I'm straight. And that was that. So one day he called my line like hey man, I gotta I gotta hit right here for a half you feel me? Something like okay cool for the slide up I'm gonna take care you get up there. squawk hos
Unknown Speaker :I'm 17 Can you hear me? Yeah, I had a whole half I tried to swallow that.
Unknown Speaker :Like what am I speaking about? They beat me to death bah bah let it go. Don't get it out your mouth. Wow, they busted me model my jaw choking me a bad thing. I want them to get it because I know what come with this. You fail me. I was ready. I was willing to swallow it before sending them people says looking like that. And they got it. And so how much time did you get behind that? Man so the initial sentence was I got banned. I got banned from that city. I got four years of art. The slight fall 20 probation or something like that they call it. So basically what it is, is that you you go in and you get probation, right? If you if you succeed your probation, they will respond to this offer your wakker because you were 17 Yeah, we're not even that's because I was subsequently charged as adult because the amount of it was so they had a in that city that I was in they had a provision law that said if you get called for more than 10 grams, you automatically got to go to the Department of Corrections right right. So they had they had swarmed me in with this because they had this deal. But then when I go in front of the judge, my attorney hit me up he like I look cuz I bought it out. I'm gonna stress it I listen, they don't remind you when you go to court because it's a provision that says you got to go to the joint so often to take the time to send it back to the crown law to bring the grams down. So he did that got the grams down to like seven grams. It was 14 originally got him down to like seven. And I end up getting the probation but I didn't see the probation. So
Unknown Speaker :whatever. I mean, I fell I didn't. I
Unknown Speaker :saw I saw I couldn't go back this I came back out here. When I came back out here. I started you know started back hustling me. My homie had a whole obliges form and offer that block, I was able to become a big guy, and I went from there and I got set up. So let's talk about the first case and Julian, how much how much money did you have to pay for an attorney to get you or help you out today? Or did you pay anything? So the truth of the matter is this when I got bumped I had a partner at that time they took everything right the first time the first time. So you lost everything. I lost everything behind that product every everything right so they end the judge and the reducing my bond. My parents come and get me right I can think that's the only people it was gonna relieve me to was my parents, right. So when they released me to my parents, I ended up having to come up with with this then the third and paid him out the money that I made while I was in the streets. But that cost me like 3000 at the time. What about the second time that you bought the second time I got bumped up they found 20 cash, um, Ace. And I was I went down I went down behind that when I took five years. So I was trying to be slick, right? Because the judge in Joliet told me when she gave me the probation he looked at me say you too young to get caught with the amount of product that you got caught with. If you get in any trouble. This case carry photo fits in years. I'm giving you the maximum this case if you come back why she looked at me and told me it is and then she looked at my mama and like your son because they have pitches and stuff for me to you know, say they I don't know who it is do what this rat do was but they have pictures of me and everything. So they just tell my mom like, you know, your song was really doing too much for his age and like he was selling to whoever Was will who had the money it's a pregnant lady they they they got pictures of him with you know I'm saying but you know that was that was their environment you know I'm saying so like I try to be slick I try to cop out to five years boot camp up here open I'll go but I don't know I'm dealing I'm stupid because I'm thinking I'm hoping the system Ain't you know set up like that man listen I go to boot camp I'm I'm in there they rip me from there to the lady back down the will county so I'm sitting I'm man this lady for that now me so when I go in front of her she don't even remember me because two years have passed. Right? So as they was like some I'm talking to the attorney I'm like, they gave me like a public defender because I'm I'm coming from the join. So I gotta get some give me somebody to talk to and talk to them. I'm like, like, I'm I'm just going to tell the jurors to give you five years boot camp to record current with this case because you know, I'm Right, come on with it. Maria, what am I saying? I'm already doing that. So they did that. And exactly what they said exactly what they gave me. I was like, Man, I'm so happy.
Unknown Speaker :So the five years you only did four months. Oh, okay. Four months. You hear me? That's why I was thirsty for the day.
Unknown Speaker :Like you did four months out about five years.
Unknown Speaker :Yes. Cuz my case was it was four to 15. Right? And, um, Lake County didn't have that provision like a wheel county had because they caught me a Lake County had caught me with 125 grams You know, I'm saying so when they when they did what they did I already know this case, way more severe than that one. So I end up you know, taking that deal. I know that's the deal. I know a deal when I see what four months I'm out. Right?
Unknown Speaker :On the real you make sure you didn't mess up and boom. completed that time.
Unknown Speaker :Yes, sir. No, sir. Yes, sir. No, sir. You hear me jog where Y'all know what's going on? Hey no fool. For real cuz if you do the math for months to two years where do I sigh Come on man So
Unknown Speaker :was that it as far as the trouble no all right
Unknown Speaker :so
Unknown Speaker :I don't make it don't today so I'm gonna keep it real and by then I could not stay out of jail man because I was doing my best friend my my best friend's father told me he said Brandon you gotta understand you not regular you really know what you're doing you know how to maneuver you get out and you get to don't you get the good money? They don't want to see that so they got to take care of you every time you do that. And I bs you not. I got a boot camp. I couldn't even sit down it's like like like I had Last summer I was dumb you know I'm saying I'm really was dumb. I'm like a streets gonna pay me off and I ran it up on leg monitor. couldn't sit down. I'm at dice games and head thing just stupid. When Leg moto Ronnie you know I'm saying like you don't you probably bet the Jeep I got this but i 68680 That's what I'm talking about No seriously cuz I was dumb and I got booked behind that they sit me down because I went AWOL on my alma mater for a year I got out of that six months late No, I take that back a week later got set up for to eight balls one even out a week seven days to be is that my brother common a bro does do what the BAM I ain't got it. I'm like okay, cool. Taylor say last I go demo. Yeah. What is this? This niggas don't know how to not tell but I understand that comes with a man right? I end up getting into disapprobation on that steel dilemma less wear and did something else went to the joint for you got out Then I did some old dumb stuff right I got called again he said your name is stay don't lie yeah I think it's just a study done right I was definitely stand up at that time and that time that they that this time that they got me I was so cocky and I was so smart but I was so dumb because I did not understand that regardless to what this black and white is saying this legal system they run a court system and regardless if they got evidence for real for real against you or not, they really won't you. So whatever they say go and go and I realized that when I when I put my emotion in I put my emotion in. We lost the emotion like how we lose this motion. That's the black and white say we able to lose this motion, but I lost my emotion. I'm like okay, cool. I'm gonna go to trial. They got me hooked up. They they ain't got nothing on me. They trip when trial trial these folks and to be honest we don't get to keep it real these white folks right trying to white folks they had evidence technician that I've take that back they had evidence expert right expert witness. Why? Lieutenant Oliver? I'm gonna say his name the man I've never seen nothing like this in my life the man got on the stand and he was asked how do you know that the narcotics that you found belong to this guy you didn't find them on him you don't have no fingerprints, DNA nothing. You just got this work a certain amount of narcotics. It was an individual that we apprehended I know that the belong to him is just serious. That was the evidence. found me guilty. I got 14 years. Send me down. So you had to do seven six had to do. That was the first time I had cracked I got tattooed on my chest. really mean she had blood before they shed tears. I didn't I didn't cry for my uncle's death. I didn't cry for my grandma's Duff nothing. And people made me cry. I was hurt. Because I felt like I was supposed to lose and then I thought I was really going slam me like that. Mm hmm. I was 23 bro I
Unknown Speaker :be 32 took care of me they they turned me upside down it slammed me on my head. So as the 20 year was locked up Yeah, I was locked so I did five years. I was in the joint bam, bam. Okay, so, so the first year I was being hard headed, you know? It's going the room. We don't go in there like Romi and my savages that's what I'm doing every session. Yeah, fine. What do they want to go in? He knew he had no chance he because for space. I need space for him because he been known to going down take care of badness stole on me in a day room. I lose some time. And when you lose time back it when you lose time. With a joint you got a good time that they give you in a possible positive stuff that you can get. You can't get none of that back until you get the time you lost back. It took me two years to get that time back right? I got the time back they sent me from a media max to a minimum. And then I did five years with no problems and then I did two years it worked really
Unknown Speaker :well. The first joint he went to.
Unknown Speaker :The first one I went to was Western is what they call about a lot of people know it as mount Sterling. Okay, that was the first one on that on that beat. That was the first joint but the first one I've ever been to was when I went on the writ that was big money and you don't want to be there because feel like it's filled with gado, huh. What what bras
Unknown Speaker :and near what type of security person is
Unknown Speaker :so this is big money as a medium medium. So So and then this is around the time they had them segregated at one point in time like they had what we call it a joy we call them gi cheese right? So have all the geese house at one house, but they put up And all this stuff and you came in participant choice no more right but they put in this thing where y'all got we don't we don't like gay men we like straight men so y'all case so they made up this thing where they couldn't you couldn't be basically profiling against them for a sec so you so now they gotta run it all through the joy around all the straight guy that gotta do some time right and that ain't no excuse because I did my time like a G so any that got it that fell victim to that desam you hear me? I you know that's a lie, right? But you ain't got to do all that while you down and not that it's real quick if we get no no cesa not busy ain't got no vagina. That's facts right?
Unknown Speaker :So after you do the the time while you're in that last bit what was the moment when you realize that things had to change?
Unknown Speaker :I didn't steel steel
Unknown Speaker :on a 14 year bit I did not. I'm like, so I got better during that time. Because when I was out, I was feeding a lot of people, and then people wouldn't feed me while I was in there. You feel me? I'm getting better. I'm getting mad. I'm getting angry. And then like, I had never told so when I was growing up young people told me they love me, but they never showed me that. So I made it a point to never tell nobody. I love them, but show them that. So I got people so my son's mother. She's telling me like what you never told me you love. Like what you felt that though? Yeah, felt about I want to hear me, you know, but she broke bad. I got brothers and sisters that I received a downfall. Not in bonded him out, bought them clothes and stuff, gave them money for whatever they needed. And I received nothing. My grandmother, that's that's still living. My grandmother was on crack cocaine for 20 years. She got clean. That woman sent me $10 and a letter every week. Nice. Well my homies that my Because that's making these hundreds that $10 mean a lot to you and that meant so much to me but letters meant a lot to you. Yeah, it meant a whole lot because you went to you went to jam you don't got no, you don't have access to nothing. My sister countries love with a deaf. She took me to hold be every month. It wasn't a month that I didn't have money on the phone. When I called her she was sending hundreds. He says I need to get what Okay, Brenda from the Senate. So you when I got home, I told you my mind was still you know, mashed up, right? I got right back in the streets. Three months and I have 50,000 I'm blessed my sister bless my grandma. I that was it. Me and my mom kind of like fell out because and I was the first time I ever had resembled a hate for my mother for real for real because I was really looking at my life. I'm like, this is she I blamed her for my reason for going to the streets and to be honest, right? But it wasn't even that the whole time. I was not got $30 in seven years. I'm doing Math 30 divided by seven. You got $30 from her? Yes, out of seven years I got $30 so I'm like,
Unknown Speaker :Well, what does she didn't have her money?
Unknown Speaker :Hey, listen, let me tell you something man. If a person tells you they ain't got no money, why do you like that? They lie because people go and spend money every day old stuff that ain't more important than the loved ones and it's facts people go play the lottery. People go by all type of fast food restaurant all they got a good link. They go by Mike's like my sisters they was buying farms and mines they had their thing Okay, tell me you ain't got no money Gee, okay, it comes has come around to right so you come on
Unknown Speaker :so you don't think your mom was strong? It wasn't about she?
Unknown Speaker :She probably doesn't my auntie said to me Yeah, I might. So that's what that's what got my mom my resentment my bitterness to turn down just a little because my auntie says some because my auntie came to visit me.
Unknown Speaker :When she came to visit me.
Unknown Speaker :She looked at me
Unknown Speaker :and I'm You know this time off, you know join lifestyle slow fat neck fat head bald head. You still got a fat Nick Yeah, whatever. And I'm sitting at like a you know, like I'm really and she like Brandon what's wrong which I've never seen you like this You always smiling the full of life and I'm like man, you know I'm saying this and I broke down in tears and I'm telling them like, you know, all these people I was taking care of and looking out for thing here for me. And she's like Brandon, you got to understand some How you going to spec people that you was there for the beat up for you. They sit your waist design changed, to be honest with you, you messed them up going to jail because now they ain't got no help. And so that made me really like, okay, she got a point. But I really want her to have one.
Unknown Speaker :And you really weren't trying to hear
Unknown Speaker :I would try to hear that. I they got something.
Unknown Speaker :Let me This is a personal question for me. Um, because I had a loved one that was locked down for a long time. What are those letters mean?
Unknown Speaker :Is it mean a whole lot? So like because because you take the time because a person actually taking the time out a day to like let me write this person because I've added a lot of time and I got brothers and stuff that that's in jail right now. And I may I send them money and everything like that, but I never really take that time to write. You feel what I'm saying? And I so I know what it what it really means to actually sit down and write that letter. Get that stamp, sell it and ship it off. That takes some love. For real.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, um, my loved one was locked down for a long time. So whatever he needed monetarily,
Unknown Speaker :you got it. But I never wrote.
Unknown Speaker :But I flew out to visit him, um, San Fran visits and stuff like that, but I wasn't a writer. That wasn't my thing. But if you whatever you need, you need a gotcha. You got it.
Unknown Speaker :But you know what? That Listen, I bs you. Not that help. Though more than anybody want to know because a person will be like a person to juggle always have one person that leads for Donald Donald everything because it might be a woman or a brother or cousin or something that right them all the time like man cuz you know I ain't got no money in the butt Am I right you make sure you good check up on you and stuff like that and you like man cuz I ain't trippin long as you write me bro I'm straight that's all I'm just need a little love right Dennis the other guy that got the money like man cuz you know I ain't got time to be writing the letter I got to get this bag but you know Hippo whatever whatever you need man let me know if you need something else etc. It go like that. Is it a it take a collective thing to make that happen? You know?
Unknown Speaker :So, okay, you you know you, you went in and out of jail. You know, you come out you say you make the 50 real quick. You you hook your sister up you hook your grandmother Oh. And is it again that you get in trouble
Unknown Speaker :you get a deal together. idea but Hello. So I definitely did. But the worst thing that they could ever, ever, ever do was sit me down for that long. So I'm gonna give you a little language. That's just not to be too long, but I'm gonna give you a little backstory, I never went to kindergarten, I went straight. The first because I was that smart. from first grade, they try to get me to third grade because I was that advanced. When I was in third grade, I had 12.9 on I got tests, like all the way through, so I always been considered very, very smart in advance. When I was a high school, I took the IQ test, I had a genius IQ. So I've always been smart, right? At least I thought, but it's always a way. So when I sat down during that time I was reading the law. I was able to really, really learn the law and say they can never railroad me again. Because even when they talk in a legal sense, I can talk the language now. So I got called three more times. I won't even say cold because I won't really call. I was charged three additional times. I thought Got out right after the fire after that and I beat all level 1am I beat emotion I think because I got a thing will get my leg back okay how long it is I gotta get my back you know you know if he would like they really sick in the head like they gotta get like come on I'm really like that like sometimes on how I've never wanted my leg back right back I don't want my leg right back because you really know I'm coming you know about you know I'm coming if you get you get my You hit me You're not coming right back. I'm away. You're gonna get into it with some old people you have a whole lot of stuff going on. I'm gonna hit you when you hate it the most because it's gonna hurt more. That's how we think so like when they did that I like I said I'd be I want a motion. I wanted a court case. And then I had another case and a third just do it out immediately. Right? And because they they illegally charged me cuz they took it off somebody else's heart. That's how bad it was. They took no Colleagues of another person, took them down to the interrogation room and took me to Lake County Jail and charged me with it. Today people really won't mean a crazy. They do the case I when I went to court because they didn't put the tick up, they think they just stole some other stuff. But right then and there, and they every time they kept saying 18 1818 that was the offer. I said, I can't get caught now one time, because if they catch me, they don't they don't take care of me.