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Road House (1989) - Scene-By-Scene Breakdown

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Episode 10: Road House (1989) - Scene-By-Scene Breakdown

Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez break down the classic movie and talk about bar fights, Mortal Kombat-type moves, and seeing Patrick Swayze naked.

Synopsis: A tough bouncer is hired to tame a dirty bar.

Director: Rowdy Herrington
Writer: R. Lance Hill, Hilary Henkin
Cinematographer: Dean Cundey
Cast: Patrick Swayze, Kelly Lynch, Sam Elliott, Ben Gazzara

Original Episode: S01E10

Recorded: 11-19-21
Studio: Just Curious Media
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Jason Connell:

Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's talk movies. And I'm Jason Connell on the show today I'm joined by a special guest, Sal Rodriguez.

Sal Rodriguez:

Thank you, Jason.

Jason Connell:

You're welcome. Well, you are back my friend for your fifth episode. Wow. Five out of 10. I mean, as far as covering movies goes, that's a pretty good run.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, yeah. I say that's good. Is there a who ranks number two who's had the second most

Jason Connell:

games? Mostly? Ryan Baisley. Has come in second with two. Nice. All right. And I have three other great guests that did want each,

Sal Rodriguez:

anybody who does more than one or two or three, I gotta keep my edge, you know?

Jason Connell:

Yeah, exactly. Well, this is really exciting for me, because this is the 10th episode of the 80s. So it kind of completes the loop that I started when I started the show. Well, it was picking one movie from each year of the 80s, which is harder to do than you think so. Yeah. Because it's like, oh, man, those three movies came out that year, or blah, blah, blah. Well, I was up against that a lot. And I was always going with movies that I found inside of me that I wanted to watch again, or I was super excited by I could do it again recast and still love those movies just as much. But I went with the ones that I did. And I'm just gonna run down this list leading up to the one we're doing tonight and include the year just to educate the viewer in the audience, the listener, whomever. Yeah, so started with Episode One and American Werewolf in London 1981, of which you join me for that initial episode, which was amazing. Then there was Wall Street 1987 to live and die in LA 1985 The Fly 1986 also co hosted by yourself. Oh, yeah, that came up. Fast Times at Ridgemont High 1982 Risky Business 1983, the Terminator 1984, Sal Rodriguez, back. Diehard 1988, and American Gigolo 1980. And you were also on that one. And that was the last one. In 2020, I had eight episodes come out. And in 2021. So far, I've just had the one. And during that time, actually moved from the West Coast to the East Coast, set up a new studio, so many other things going on with our other shows. Let's talk Cobra Kai, that's a crime. And this show just unfortunately, does kind of stalled out for a little bit, just sat there waiting for me to come back and do this 10 Glorious episode, and then open this show up to not just seen by scene breakdowns, which I love. So they just take so much time. Yeah. And so they're not going to be just the only thing this podcast does. It'll be there. It's definitely a staple. But there's going to be shorter content to Sure. You know, like interviews with different filmmakers, actors, could be from some of these movies, we might just pick a topic like great Scorsese films, or let's talk about Paul Thomas Anderson movies, or let's go down the Quentin Tarantino rabbit hole and just have discussions. And some of that will be shorter content and then sprinkle in some of these great movies. I may still tackle 70s and the 90s and do the scene by scene breakdowns. But I understand what the bandwidth that I have that I have to be selective.

Sal Rodriguez:

I think it's good to have different length content. Because yeah, my favorite time to listen to podcasting is when I drive. Yeah. And I have longer trips and have shorter trips. You know, am I going to drive for 30 minutes? Am I gonna drive for two hours? Yep. I mean, if I know I'm going to be on the road for a couple hours, hell up, put on something that last a couple hours. Yeah, let it soothe me.

Jason Connell:

Because the running time for most of our episodes thus far hour and a half to two hour are some just north of that. Because these are longer movies. And when you're doing a scene by scene breakdown, you're going to be the length of the movie, if not more with trivia and backstories and just our overall banter. So I love it. I love it. It helps me like honor the movie. I watch it again. I watched it with notes. And I felt like oh my gosh, these are all the conversations I was wanted to have just to go through scene by scene. So that will be there. But it'll be nice to have more episodes coming out because I can do shorter ones faster. And then like cue up another great movie. But let's come back to tonight. Yeah. 1989 was one that I thought about for a while. I was going to do fields of dreams. I was going to do crimes and misdemeanors. I was going to do the big picture. And then it was just like, you know, I got to do something and maybe it's this movie that some people can make fun of it, because you might have forgotten it or think well what is that movie? And then I watched it again. It's like now this works and that is Roadhouse. Yeah, yeah. 1989 Classic. So I think it works really well with these other nine movies. And so it's a kind of crossover to the let's talk Cobra Kai audience with all of its karate in fighting.

Sal Rodriguez:

I was enjoying the fight scenes. I watched this movie now twice in recent days. And I actually enjoyed it more the second time because unlike Cobra Kai, when you and I do let's talk Cobra Kai, or anything in the Karate Kid, Cobra Kai universe, I will watch the movie or the show the first time for pleasure. And then the second time for an hour business. Yeah. I like this, I did the opposite. This I watched the first time kind of analyzed more second time, let everything go. Let any notions go and just enjoyed myself. So it was a definitely I think a more fun ride. Actually the second time seeing it already go.

Jason Connell:

Well, without further ado, let's jump in. Oh, yeah. So we are covering Roadhouse. 1989 Directed by rowdy Harrington, written by our Lance Hill and Hillary Hanken. And the genre action thriller. It's kind of spot on little bit of comedy in there a little bit limit the ratings 6.6 on IMDb respectable. I mean, again, this is not a movie that's going to get eight nines just because of the subject matter. I get it. It's easy to make fun of. But then really, it's just really great. People have a hard time admitting it. Rotten Tomatoes 66%. So interesting. 6.6 and 66. Well, but hey, just sharing the facts. The release date, May 19 1989. Now, so I saw this in the theater with one of my friends from high school, I would have been actually 17 years old and loved it right out of the gate.

Sal Rodriguez:

Wait, Jason, I wanted to discuss this for a moment, please. I looked on IMDb. I looked at a few movies. And that you have all the information there. The gross the budget, the release date, but what I'm not seeing is the MPAA rating. What was the MPAA rating of Roadhouse that? I don't know. Because the question becomes you were 17 Yeah, I was I believe 16 You know, give or take a few months. It should we have been watching this movie is what I'm saying? Was I think he's very keen.

Jason Connell:

That was a popular thing at the time. This had to

Sal Rodriguez:

have been an AR. But then they just got lacks. Yeah, you're 17

Jason Connell:

or 16. Seven. Yeah. I worked at a theater. You got lacks. It's one of the 12 year olds come like guy. No, no, no. When I was 1112 You're not getting into that movie. Right? This is different. So I think that's a big part of it.

Sal Rodriguez:

Okay, so late teens come on in. And

Jason Connell:

I don't do the MPAA ratings. They don't mean as much as they used to.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, also we're adults now. What do we care? You know, the first time I went to see Team America World Police. I went by myself. Yeah. I didn't know the rating. I didn't look at the rating. I'm a grown man. What do I care? Yeah, I thought it was just a fun puppet movie. Gee, yes. Seriously, that's what I thought. And I'm sitting there and about 20 minutes. I'm gonna

Jason Connell:

watch yours. Yeah. Classic. So the budget for this movie. 17 million. Pretty good. They spent that money really well with these explosions and what? I gotta say, oh, yeah, yeah. When we talk about the t shirt. Of course, this is the 80s late 80s. Yeah, and the US gross. Again, these numbers come from IMDB. So it could be more. It's probably north of this, but 30 million. So obviously made a return right there and probably did much more than that worldwide and all the other markets and now streaming and heck, I just watched it recently. So we're still adding to the Roadhouse fund. Jason, you

Sal Rodriguez:

know what we're doing now, in 2021. I'm gonna be doing, we're affecting the algorithm. All the algorithms are affected by every little thing that we're doing. There's this

Jason Connell:

uptick on Roadhouse recently. We just knocked it up a little bit. Hopefully, these episodes really make an impact. Because the purpose for this show besides is me sharing and bringing people on to talking about movies is to give people a reason to see a movie for the first time or to revisit it. So it's like, oh, yeah, you know what, I'm gonna watch Roadhouse again. Yeah, why not? I'm excited. So I've heard people who listen to the show, or hopefully now watch the show as well on YouTube. YouTube Live, like, oh, my gosh, I went back and saw that now after listening to your episode, or vice versa, you know, in reverse. It's like, oh, yeah, that was so cool. You pointed those things out. I had to see it again. So I love that sound. That means it's working. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to come back and do many, many more. So the synopsis short and sweet, a tough bouncer is hired to tame a dirty bar. I really liked this pretty good.

Sal Rodriguez:

But for clarification, Jason he's not a bouncer officially.

Jason Connell:

Well, no, but he probably moved his way up. He was probably a bouncer. And then he became a cooler.

Sal Rodriguez:

Okay, are we gonna talk about the definition of the word cooler?

Jason Connell:

Well, before we do that, how about the definition of the word? Roadhouse?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, nice.

Jason Connell:

You had mentioned this while we were prepping for this episode. What is Roadhouse? And I was like, That's a good question. So I looked it up. And essentially it's just a tavern in our club on a country road. So I guess at work it's fitting because the double Deuce is definitely on set country road Yeah, sounds inviting. Yeah, so I don't have the definition for a cooler but I get the sense of it right they generally there's coolers in Vegas two coolers in Vegas are kind of sent in to bring a table down I think there's a movie called The cooler which I love well you might you may see not Baldwin phenomenal movie but if a table or a certain person's like on fire winning they sit in the cooler he's just kind of a he or she is is kind of a bad luck person. They bring the mood down the energy down. Oh, is that what it's different? So yeah, that context here. A cooler here is this to keep cool be over the bouncers just try to keep a cool vibe if if a cooler heads in charge style. It's much better off for everyone.

Sal Rodriguez:

Sure, sure. You don't want to ruckus in the room. Well,

Jason Connell:

this movie starts with some ruckuses Now, something we also talked about was the fact that Roadhouse could be in the works for a reboot. Oh, yeah, I read this in the trades just the other day, you know, long after I was already going to do this movie with you on here, but it's like wait a second, what Jake Gyllenhaal and Doug Liman are penciled or there's talks about them doing this Doug Liman being the director. Of course, Jake Gyllenhaal would be fantastic in this so Hey, man, I want to see this happen. So

Sal Rodriguez:

I guess they've been trying this for a while because back I think maybe 2006 2007 Don't quote me on that year, but approximately then, when Ronda Rousey was UFC, Women's Champion, reigning queen, the world was her oyster for a time and I believe she was under consideration to be the star of the reboot of Roadhouse. So I think even before Jake Gyllenhaal, Ronda Rousey, by the way, who was now with the WWE, she was considered in the title role. I guess her name wouldn't be Dalton, but she was considered for the film. I guess it could. It's kind of an ambiguous name, I suppose. Yeah. So she was considered but unfortunately, she lost the title. I don't know if that's relevant or coincidental. But around the time, she lost the title, and she started going down from her UFC reign, then I believe the offer was possibly rescinded.

Jason Connell:

She's also not a great actress.

Sal Rodriguez:

I haven't seen her acquisition Expendables.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. Well, I just mean, like, it'd be a different movie. If they get Jake Gyllenhaal. That's like, you know, Swayze was a big name, and he carries this movie. Well,

Sal Rodriguez:

hang on. Swayze was so good in this his moves. That's gonna get into his moves. Holy cow. Can Jake Gyllenhaal do that? Well,

Jason Connell:

I don't know. But Jake Gyllenhaal he's a chameleon. He trained whatever it is. It could be a whole new look. I don't even know. But I could see John Hall doing this. So it's Ronda Rousey. Yeah, it'd be fun. It'd be this quick movie that came and went. Yeah, but John Hall, they could make a real go at it. So let's get into the castle. I'm ready. Patrick Swayze is don't know, I just gotta say. I also read his book, which is fantastic. But rest in peace restaurants. Patrick Swayze, September 14 2009, at 57 years old, had pancreatic cancer.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, that's a bad one. I mean, they're all bad, but that's a real bad one.

Jason Connell:

His wife was Lisa Swayze. The book was time of my life. Very fitting title. I read it a few years ago.

Sal Rodriguez:

That almost makes me cry, man. Fantastic. Wow.

Jason Connell:

They met in high school. It was about his meteoric rise to success and he's a dancer, dancer, dancer. Yeah. Always fantastic, but maybe never looked better than in Roadhouse.

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm telling you, I enjoy this movie more. The second time. I was just sitting there blown away. Yeah, I mean, his moves. He's so I don't think I've ever seen anybody kick ass in such a graceful manner.

Jason Connell:

It's great. Now, of course he's in other movies. Outsiders Grandview, USA Red Dawn Youngblood point breaks it he enjoyed Donnie Darko, and so many more. He'd be on SNL stealing scenes. making us laugh makes us cry. He's fantastic.

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm sorry. Jason. Did you say it wasn't Donnie Darko? Oh, yeah. Hello. There's the Jake Gyllenhaal exact inaction. Hello,

Jason Connell:

are you go right. Wow. And Patrick Swayze who was also nominated for three Golden Globes for Best Performance by an Actor 9096 to Wong foo 1991 Ghost and 1988 Dirty Dancing. So you know I didn't want any but Dirty Dancing goes to Wong foo thanks for everything. Phenomenal and he's great and ghosts by the way, which came out right after Roadhouse. And Dirty Dancing is like you know, obviously women love him and Dirty Dancing.

Sal Rodriguez:

Jason talk about A diverse range of roles. He fights, he dances and he loves any cross dresses, any crossbars who else has that on a resume?

Jason Connell:

Not many. So he was fantastic. And I'm super excited to break this movie down. A couple other cast members Kelly Lynch, Doc. Remember her from bright lights big city cocktail drugstore cowboy curly Sue Charlie's Angels always great. But again, maybe she never looked better. This was like a perfect time. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

Would you say this? Was everyone in their prime?

Jason Connell:

Seems like it. Yeah. Speaking of looking great, Sam Elliott. Oh, yeah. As Wade Garrett. You may know him from Mission Impossible TV series mask, the quick and the dead fatal beauty. Tombstone. The Big Lebowski. He was the stranger. Yeah, Hawk up in the air. A star is born. And so many more. He's Sam Elliot.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, yeah, women. I hear women, him and Sean Connery. But Sam Elliot. I hear women talking about Sam Elliot to this day.

Jason Connell:

He's great. He's great. And always so likable. Right? And yeah, he

Sal Rodriguez:

does. He plays you still like him? Even though he's a he's sexy. You know what I mean? Like, he may be a party. He wants to be like, Screw this guy, you know? But he's so likable and so sexy. I have a guy's

Jason Connell:

guy. Yeah. Then there's been Ksara who's Oh, fan? tastic. So we also rest in peace. We lost Ben February 3 2012 81 years old. Oh, well, also to pancreatic cancer. Oh, wow. He was a phenomenal actor. And movies like The killing of a Chinese Bookie, the Spanish Prisoner. Also The Big Lebowski, happiness, summers and The Thomas Crown Affair, and so many more. I've always been a fan. And no one else could have played this. That good. He was the devil himself in this movie.

Sal Rodriguez:

If you're an actor and you can get someone to love you. That's great. If you can get someone to hate you even better. still great.

Jason Connell:

still great. Then there's Jeff Healey who played coding. Now you may know him as a singer songwriter, right. We lost him as well rest in peace march 2 2008 41 years old to lung cancer. Now he was a Canadian blues rock singer and guitarist who lost his sight as a child due to a rare form of eye cancer overcomes that becomes a great musician. And he had a top five hit in the US with Angel Eyes, which is a phenomenal song sound. I know you're a karaoke ear. And you would appreciate this song if you don't already know it.

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm going to check it out. First off, and second off. He was really blind. He was really blind. Oh, wow. Because I didn't know I thought he was maybe acting

Jason Connell:

now. I knew him right away because he was kind of big on the charts. Around that time. I was like, Oh, this is Jeff Healey blind and played that role really? Well. He didn't act that much. This was his first time maybe a couple more things if that. I don't know how he popped up in the movie. I don't have that backstory. Maybe he knew. You know, rowdy and I don't know. But he does great as Cody. Oh, you know, is the guy that knew dolt and before

Sal Rodriguez:

everyone else did sure he's been around the club scene. Dalton's been around the club scene.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. So now into the crew. Rowdy Harrington director. He did other movies and shows Sal like Tales from the Crypt TV series gladiator and not the best picture Gladiator. Oh, here you go. This is the other gladiator but the boxing movie Written by Robert Mark Kaman. Oh, there's a tie in. Hello, tie in yo Yeah. For our let's talk Cobra Kai. audience. So I was like, Oh my gosh, we talked about that movie gladiator on our deep dive of Caymans filmography, so I thought you would appreciate that that's nice. He also did striking distance Bobby Jones stroke of genius and others. Getting into the writers again, are Lance Hill. 8 million ways to die out for justice Steven Seagal film, he was in that genre. And then Hillary Lincoln wrote fatal beauty which also had Sam Elliott and wag the dog and others, but I'm just picking a few things out here. So you know, it's a really good crew, obviously, and went on to do other bigger things. But I save the best for last as far as the crew goes, because this guy's credentials blew me away. And that's the cinematographer Dean Cundy and I'm just gonna rattle off these things and you're gonna you might fall over so brace yourself. Let me get ready. Halloween. Halloween two. Halloween three. The fog. Oh, my Escape from New York. What the thing? Whoa, DC cab, hilarious. Romancing the Stone Back to the Future. Back to the Future to Back to the Future. Three Big Trouble in Little China hook, Jurassic Park, and more. And it was up for an Academy Award. Now nominated for Best cinematographer in 1989. For Who Framed Roger Rabbit. This guy works with great directors and obviously a favorite of Congress movies, carpenters, you have Spielberg in there. You have Robert Zemeckis. This guy's the best of the best.

Sal Rodriguez:

That's very impressive resume.

Jason Connell:

I was just like, I knew the name. And I started looking down there sounds like oh my gosh, I just have to say these movies because they're all great, great movie. So they were in good hands. The movie looks the part. It's unbelievable. Now you might know why. Yeah. So that's all I have before we go down to our scene by scene breakdown. So anything else you want to talk about? First?

Sal Rodriguez:

I feel like we can just go on and on about everything behind the scenes and the cast and crew for another hour. I mean, the more I get into this movie, the more impressed I am by this movie, not only the viewing of it, but the hearing the trivia about it, and so bittersweet to see Patrick Swayze. I mean, he's so fantastic. And he was one of those guys who I think was beloved by the public. He was one of those beloved actors. Sad, sad. I mean, you see, he was so young. I mean, in the scheme of things, late 50s is still quite young. He could have done so much he could have what could we have seen from Patrick Swayze. So it's

Jason Connell:

a great way to put it very sad. We have seen, we don't know, but he loved us this. Yeah. Yeah. And let us jump in. I'm ready. So we open at the bandstand name of the locality bar, if you will. And Sal, it opens kind of like a CZ top video with she's got legs. I love that shot.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, yeah. I love that shot to Jason.

Jason Connell:

I thought you would. And as we go in the band is playing and by the way, this band actually would wind up years later and from dusk till dawn. Ah, well, lead singer would start a new band and they were playing in that movie at the bar, the Teddy Twister. So just a great scene, but we follow Tillman. Frank Tillman played by Kevin TA. And he was in shows like emergency TV series. Yes. Many of the things you've seen this guy's face. He's very trusting. He's really great. They nailed it. But he's going through this bar, and he's seeking dome. And this leads to what sell

Sal Rodriguez:

he finds Dalton ready sees Dalton an action really first.

Jason Connell:

So right away, we're in this beautiful bar. We're following Tillman things look, right. But then there's, you know, there's a little bit of an exchange and Dalton is involved right away.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, yeah. But we get to see how he he's representative of that term cooler as we spoke earlier. Yeah. Because he doesn't get his hands dirty. No, not yet. Anyway, and Tillman sees that so it only validates and verifies why he came all this way. This is the guy you want. Look how he calmed everything, and didn't even do anything himself.

Jason Connell:

And he established a point that out dough dad, and the opening is there to break something up. Someone had a knife, and he gets stabbed, but he remains cool. Yes, it has the bouncers exit the troublemakers. And when you see Dalton up in the office doing his own stitches, all bouncers do

Sal Rodriguez:

well also, and by the way, the name is invoked later in the movie. Allah Rambo.

Jason Connell:

Yes. So Tillman enters and sees this, and he shares the fact that he's got a small club outside Kansas City named the double deuce. So he tells him about this thing and deltans It's like, he doesn't know who this guy is. But I think he's realizes Sal, that his job here is done. bandstands besides the one guy with a knife, but it's a well oiled machine, and you can tell that Dolan's kind of a fixer.

Sal Rodriguez:

When we open on everything, everything looks great. And the club looks like it's fun and fantastic. But look, what kind of stuff still goes down, though.

Jason Connell:

Well, I was gonna say that was an anomaly. I don't think he gets stabbed every night. Who knows what this place look like, initially? Yeah, I'm assuming he's always looking for that. Next thing that challenge? Yes. And guys like this. Keep moving. Yeah, so we find out. So he's offered 5k up front $500 A night all medical expenses covered? So seems like a great deal.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yes. And they get into the travel. I thought he was going to also request a travel expenses as well. But yeah, the guy pops out with the plane ticket that brought to mind. Well, how far away is this place? So I'm assuming it's at least 300 miles away?

Jason Connell:

Yeah. But I love what he says. doesn't fly too dangerous. Right. Here's a guy that lives on the edge. That's too dangerous. I'll be driving. So cut to Dalton retrieves his Mercedes out of a storage unit. Now, this is pretty new. The old guy. There's an old guy there, sitting there and sees him drive up in his beater. And that guy is played by Chino, fats, Williams recipes. And he was in Terminator. He played the garbage truck driver at the very beginning of the film that I recognize from Weird Science because he's also a weird science is a bar patron at the bar there. Yes, that is him wanting the same He gives him the keys and just there he goes. And I was like, Oh my gosh, there he is again. So, shout out to Chino Fatz. Very cool. So now we see Doulton and I was gonna give you some trivia, I'll go ahead and give it to you now. When he gets his Mercedes out of that locker, you know, wherever that is, yeah, that the car cover off takes a carton, you can see like, Oh, he's got a nice car. He's making good money because he's driving good deals. But I'll give you one trivia now because I'll save the rest. That car first of all, silver light blue 1986 Mercedes Benz sec. 560 c 126. But the garage was the exact same one where Reggie Hammonds Porsche is stored in 48 hours. And that's played by Eddie Murphy. So that same locker, the same garage? They've used that shot twice. Pretty cool.

Sal Rodriguez:

That's a interesting tidbit. I like those location tidbits.

Jason Connell:

As do I so I had to throw it in there. I wonder if anybody

Sal Rodriguez:

reckon Wait, did you recognize it? No, I recognize

Jason Connell:

fats. And then I was going to trivia later on. We're at that point. So I figured out we share one trivia now.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, some locations our favorite. I remember when I used to do extra work in movies. I would find myself at the same location again on another move. Oh, no, they can Oh, they they must like this place, you know,

Jason Connell:

exactly. Or it's cheap. Or sometimes, you know, filmmakers are superstitious to like, wow, that worked for 48 hours I want to use that is that garage just one mile away. Let's just can we do that? You know, it says things like that. I'd be that guy. I want to do that. So now we're in Jasper, Jasper, Missouri, just outside Casey, and Dalton goes to the double Deuce and south. This place is rough and it's bright. It looks like last call already. But this place is a mess.

Sal Rodriguez:

Because you mentioned from dusk till dawn. And this kind of reminded me that the parking lot is not only dirt. It's dust. It's like a dusty parking lot. dirt and dust.

Jason Connell:

I think he even gets heckled on the way in because he's driving a nice car still. Right. Oh,

Sal Rodriguez:

you know what? The word hotshot gets thrown in touch. Was that like a real bad thing to tell somebody in the late 80s hotshot? Hey, hotshot, watch it hotshot.

Jason Connell:

Well, I don't know if it's bad at this. It's this kind of

Sal Rodriguez:

kind of mocking them mocking them a little bit. Yeah. Well,

Jason Connell:

anyway, behind the chicken wire. Oh, yeah. Which reminds me of the good old boys, some blues brothers. Right? Yes, yes. You see Cody and Cody being Healy. And he knows him, which is really cool. Yeah. But then we kind of bounced around the scene and we get a lot of little tidbits. And this movie Sal, I forget how many great lines there are. In this movie.

Sal Rodriguez:

We're gonna get to my one of my favorite scenes as far as dialog in a few minutes.

Jason Connell:

Well, here comes a great line here because there's one of the bouncers if you will propositioning a patron. Do you remember this line?

Sal Rodriguez:

Refresh my memory?

Jason Connell:

He says he gets off at two. And I just love to get you off about a half hour after that.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? Yeah,

Jason Connell:

that's the kind of movie we're watching.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, within the first 10 minutes. Here you go, folks.

Jason Connell:

You know, right away. Another guy grabs a woman Denise, we find out her name later. And like what do you say we get nipple? The nipple? It's like, oh my gosh, this is like a different aerosol. This is like film nada. Things were more lacks.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I always I agree with you. But at the same time, this place was completely over the top. Oh, yeah, this is over the

Jason Connell:

top. Even for that time. I agree. Over the top, another great movie from the 80s for another time, but I also love so imbalances are quick to react when this guy hits on that girl. It's like he waits for that guy to cross the line. And then it's like they're just ready to throw a guidance. A lot of times they throw people into innocent people. Yes, it's just displaying people into people

Sal Rodriguez:

into tables. The people are sitting there enjoying their drinks. And then the bodyguard throws a body at you.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. And I love little things like graffiti on the wall. I'm like, I'm like studying. It's hilarious. And I love that Tillman goes by and he changes whatever it says to for a great Buick. Oh, yeah. It's all this stuff. He's like, let me just we're gonna clean this place up one thing at a time.

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm a big fan of graffiti. Well, not particularly graffiti, but in particular restroom graffiti. And that that was getting in the realm of restroom. Oh, yeah. Was payphone Yeah. Well, I would say that, you know, restroom graffiti has been on the decline for many years, unfortunately.

Jason Connell:

Well, I would not know but not just your assessment there. But anyway, back to Cody. What is interesting, Sal that of all the places to land? Don't note some. And he knows the band. It's a three man band. Yeah. But I found that really interesting. And then there's a quick reference to Dayton Dayton Ohio. I take it how that was a rough place and it's like oh, that makes for an interesting prequel sell this don't and then date and time, like the double Deuce all over again, but just a few years before

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, look, they're talking about making a prequel to Rocky pay TV series. Yeah. So at this point in time from where we stand in space and time, anything's possible.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, maybe Jake Gyllenhaal will make a series. Wow. Who knows? It's also interesting the fact that everyone knows Dalton. Yeah, he's a legend. And we should point that out. Yeah. It's not like he's a new guy. It's like they know the name. They don't know the face, but they know the name. So he's this cooler that the Midwest is aware of, which is funny. That's a whole culture.

Sal Rodriguez:

It's that old saying Your reputation precedes you.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. And they all think he would be what though?

Sal Rodriguez:

This, I wanted to ask you for a second, so everyone thought he'd be bigger. Yeah. So then that brings to mind what is and I mean, it's true height because Patrick Swayze seems to wear a heel. I noticed. I don't think we're getting into the Tom Cruise height here. But how tall is Patrick Swayze? Do

Jason Connell:

you know? I do not know offhand. I'm skimming the internet very five. Because when it says online five to 10 online, which means he's probably

Sal Rodriguez:

559 Yeah, he's probably five nine. barefoot. That's why he was a little heel to give him a little bit of height. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

So they probably think the guy with this stature would be Oh, no, six something right. You're

Sal Rodriguez:

gonna think that surance

Jason Connell:

626364. Yeah, this guy kills everyone. Oh, sure. Is short guy.

Sal Rodriguez:

Dell sighs maybe Exactly.

Jason Connell:

Well, and also Sal, we learn one thing from one of the bouncers, the legend of the throat kill.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, well,

Jason Connell:

interesting foreshadowing there.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, we're gonna be revisiting that. And then, of course,

Jason Connell:

because this movie has a lot of them. A bar fight breaks out.

Sal Rodriguez:

And I'm loving these bar fights. I really, I'm really enjoying them. One of the bouncers Terry Funk, yeah, WW II, or at that time, WWF wrestler Terry Funk. Wow. Yeah, he's, he's one of the bouncers there.

Jason Connell:

Well, that's what I read. They kept getting a lot of guys that could just do these types of things. Because what kind of role is that? Sure. You know, you're going to be a patron, you're going to be in all these bar fights. And so yeah, if you look around, you're gonna see some of the same faces again and again and again. Oh, yeah. But it's really well done. well choreographed. Yeah, I think and I enjoy it. It's like, I've never been in that type of situation in, in real life. And in this movie, it's just common that you're going to be in that kind of fight. This happens on Cannonball Run, if they're all at the bar, but it doesn't happen in real life that much. Thank goodness.

Sal Rodriguez:

I kind of feel like bar fights happened more in the past than present day. Yeah, I feel like present day would be more likely someone pulls out a gun in present day, rather than there'd be an actual bar fights, which I have more respect for.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, people pull knives and they just keep going like, alright, yeah, no one's running away. Everyone's got ego. It's almost like everyone in this movie was in prison. At one point in time. No one knows how to back down. But there is one thing that Cody shares. And that's kind of the story of dolt, and he says, You eff with him. He'll seal your fate. Oh, yeah, like that. He tells that to the current bouncer of the double deuce. So that's it. So he goes in there and gets the assessment sell understands the lay of the land. That was Terry Funk. I

Sal Rodriguez:

think that's who he told them that my ma event Yeah, yeah, maybe he's a big

Jason Connell:

guy. That guy was quite tall. So now we cut to big T auto sales and sell if you saw the sign behind Dalton Patrick Swayze, I don't know. But if you did, you would see a sign that red San Fernando

Sal Rodriguez:

Boulevard. Okay, so this makes sense. Now, you know why? Because in some of these bars, things I don't remember offhand which scene? I thought I recognized a couple of people. And this was right around the time when I was starting to do extract so so there were it was entirely possible. I saw some extras that I used to know. Because I was an extra work in a 89 to 93 in there. Yeah, you should have been in Roadhouse. I should have been a roadhouse but I definitely saw some people I recognized and now that you say that San Fernando, would you say San Fernando mission Boulevard or San Fernando Boulevard,

Jason Connell:

San Fernando Boulevard. It was in LA I looked this up are California. And obviously they're cheating. California for Missouri, which I'm all for right now. Cobra Kai, our beloved show cheats LA and they do it in Atlanta. Yeah, it's like, occasionally they come back and they do something in Los Angeles, but not like the Karate Kid. Which they were absolutely there. So I love the fact that they're doing it. They're cheating Missouri in California. Yeah. And there's other things we'll talk about. So he goes in there Sal because he's got a great car. We know that he's got his killer Mercedes, but he's going there to get a beater or as a salesman says a runner.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, and there's a reason why he's there's a

Jason Connell:

great reason why besides the fact that does have these sweet headlights, which I thought were pretty cool. Oh, yeah, that was opened up. But the reason is, you don't want to be rolling up with your Mercedes all the time at the double dues, especially when everyone knows who you are. Cool, if you will. So

Sal Rodriguez:

no, that's why the sort of the rule I always stuck with where I come from. You don't want your enemies to know where deliver work. Yeah. You don't want your enemies to know where people you love live or work. You know, you want to keep that stuff private. I'm just a big fan of privacy when you see stuff like that. People knowing the car you drive people unsavory types. Yeah, you don't want it.

Jason Connell:

And of course Missouri on the license plate is the show me state always love that about them. But he gets a lot of extra tires. And we'll save that for later as Oh, yeah. Okay. He just loads up on them. Yes. So now we meet him it and I love this guy. And he's got this wonderful barn garage barn apartment.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, it's fantastic. It's amazing. It's great. And the rent, are we going to talk about the rent

Jason Connell:

or you can tell us how much it is? Or how much it isn't?

Sal Rodriguez:

They make a deal on this fantastic loft? Apartment. I mean, it's fantastic. Well, okay, the good news is I love animals. So if I'm gonna be sleeping above sheep, and cattle or whatever, I probably can handle it. He asked for $100 a month. And he only asked for that because what he didn't want to get in trouble with the Presbyterian Church. Exactly. The first thing is, that only translates to like 250 a month, even with the inflation calculator in 2021. That's what you would be paying. So even then, even now, fantastic deal. The other thing is this exchange this banter between the two of them, so I am loving this.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, they get along great. And it's a really great character. We don't learn too much about him, but we enjoy him and he's a good old boy. You know, he's kind of Uncle Jesse from Dukes of Hazzard and you immediately TRUST Him and He takes to dolt. Now a lot of people came and looked at this apartment, and everybody passed. Yeah, but don't just need something simple. Right place he can train work out clear his head. Swayze in real life loves horses, so I'm sure it had some fun doing it this way. Wait, Jason, are

Sal Rodriguez:

we supposed to know why the other people didn't take this apartment at such a tremendous value?

Jason Connell:

No, I just think, who knows? It was too rustic for them. Right?

Sal Rodriguez:

Ah, you know, it was purposely i I'm in love with this place. The only

Jason Connell:

issue with the place is the fact that just on the other side of this small pond, right tiny pond is one Brad Wesley who immediately makes an incredible intro where the helicopter companies over low upsets the horses emit can't stand him flies away. And you know, right there. Well, you know, everything you need to know about Brad Wesley in that moment, y'all, he's that guy?

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Because you could tell that, okay, maybe he's not legally allowed to fly over the house, right over Emma's house. But you could tell he gets close to it intentionally. He's doing this to aggravate me.

Jason Connell:

Absolutely. So now we're at the double deuce. And here's a meeting Sal and I love this because it really reminds me of Reservoir Dogs, when they were kind of playing in a bank robbery. Everything just looked that way. The meeting the tables, if you go back and watch Reservoir Dogs now it's like, oh, you know that Quinton probably really liked Roadhouse, just saying,

Sal Rodriguez:

You know what, this also reminded me of that very scene. I think it was boiler room. Or Glengarry Glen Ross. Well, those are great. Yes. Yeah. Okay, what the scene where? What is it where Alec Baldwin came up? Yeah. And he does the brass ball. Coffee's for closers. All that Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this reminded me of that. Because you know, right away like we haven't even met you know, like, I'm an employee. I haven't even met you for 10 minutes. And you're already coming at us.

Jason Connell:

I'm telling you to go back and watch reservoir dog. You got the old guy barking at them. And it's like, it's my way the highway. Oh my gosh, it's really an homage to the seat. I'll give it another lunch. And he gives the names out. You missed it. Thank you, Mister. I absolutely love that sequence. But anyway, Tarantino I'm sure as a fan, but Tillman endorses Dolan kind of hands it over to him. And of course, here comes that famous line. It's my way or the highway. And really, Sal, he starts to give the bouncers Bible. And there's three things three rules. I don't know if he wrote them down. I can say them if you have them.

Sal Rodriguez:

I remember be nice. Okay. Well, that's the third one.

Jason Connell:

Be nice. We'll start with three. We'll go back. Be nice. The second one. Take it outside. Never start anything inside the bar, unless it's absolutely necessary. Yeah, I like that. I like that. That's good. And it's when he does watch him. He does this. Yeah, sometimes he's like, we got to deal with it now. And other times, it's like, getting my little head nods. Yeah. And number one, because we're going in reverse. Never underestimate your opponent. Expect the unexpected. Oh, yeah. All good stuff.

Sal Rodriguez:

One of my favorite pastimes is looking at self defense guys on YouTube, offering advice. And they all say that do not underestimate your opponent. You don't know anything about this this person and this stranger you don't know anything about them? No, you can't

Jason Connell:

it behooves you to be ready be prepared and anything in any sport in anything. Oh, yeah. So it's a great sequence and he's already firing people. You know, people are getting mad because he He was there just long enough to assess this guy's scam. And this guy's doing this this person selling drugs. He knows he's done this before this is kind of like Gordon Ramsay when he would go into kitchen, or even Bar Rescue. Like they've all come from like this type of thing. Yeah, you did this 100 times you can come in and say that it's really what this is.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, same characters, different faces in his cleaning

Jason Connell:

house. And so now cut to you know, he's made some changes. It's a ripple effect that hasn't all changed yet. It's not the glorious double Dusit it becomes. But the first night, a patron, of course, pulls a knife.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. And Sal,

Jason Connell:

what happens? Well, this

Sal Rodriguez:

is after he's given the instruction to these bouncers that he's now mentoring, so to speak, right? Yeah. So he kind of they have to give each other those signals those little nods, the little eye movement, the little, the little Go ahead. So when that guy pulls the knife, that bouncer looks over at adult and like, what do I do? And Dalton's like? He gave him the was it the be nice nod? Or was it the ticket outside? Not? Well, I

Jason Connell:

think it was earlier than that. I think the bouncer went over there to defuse a situation. It escalated and the knife comes out. And the adult knows like, this is above them, right? Yeah. They don't know this. Yeah, they can't do it, and disarms him, he slams his head through the table. Yeah, he steps in when he needs to, because that's like next level stuff. Well,

Sal Rodriguez:

once somebody pulls out a weapon, it becomes life or death. I mean, it's one thing to get punched. It's another thing to get stabbed. You know, even getting punched could be deadly. I mean, recently, there was a case of a person that sucker punched on the sidewalk. They were sucker punched, they died. And the person is up for murder. I believe so. Even getting punched can be deadly. But pulling out a knife is saying for sure. I'm willing to kill you is what it's yeah.

Jason Connell:

So he didn't sit him over there with a knife out. It's like he waited, it came out. And then Dalton comes in out of nowhere. Yeah, it's the rescue to the rescue. And everyone else is like, oh my god, the legend is true. It's one thing to know to hear about the legend and meet him to see him in action. Yeah, whoa.

Sal Rodriguez:

It would be like Cena what Jordan play if you feel were there at that time. Yeah. See Tyson fight in this prime? Oh, yeah. That's what these people are watching right there. In Missouri. They're watching Michael Jackson perform. And they've only heard of them.

Jason Connell:

And then Cody's on the mic says the name is Dalton. No, he's a blind guy. And he can read the room. Oh, yeah. And read the room. Sure. And he's like, he's put someone down.

Sal Rodriguez:

He can hear it. He can hear it. He can feel it and hear it. Yeah, that's funny.

Jason Connell:

They know they have a connection. So meanwhile, sound this might be one of your favorite scenes, because you've alluded to this before the recording. Oh, Steve's got something cooking in the back room. Please explain.

Sal Rodriguez:

Why me Jason. This is the scene that stood out to me from the time I originally saw this movie. As a 16 year old boy, I want to say that I was a 16 year old boy, when I first saw this movie in the theaters. And this is a scene that stood out to me. And that was would you say the character's name was Steve. Steve. Steve has a young lady. Doggy style. For lack of a medical term, doggy style in the storage room? And what does he say? He says some creepy line like you're gonna be my Saturday night thing. He says something like that. Exactly. Yeah. And of course, Dalton walks in at the most inopportune time. You know, you think he would have locked the storage door? How about that my friend? Maybe put a box in front of it. Maybe Steve help yourself out here. Instead, just leave the door unlocked. Dalton walks in and he immediately fires Steve on the spot. He's

Jason Connell:

He's like I'm on my break. You said stay on it. Right. Stay on. And then Dalton fires the bartender. Oh scamming because he saw it was playing his debt. Yeah, that guy wasn't slick. It's the till puts the money in his pocket. And don't seen all this and you can just read someone that guy looks sketchy from the get go sale.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Well, you know what you got to especially indolence position. You gotta assume everybody's on the take until they prove otherwise.

Jason Connell:

That's exactly right. Yeah. So now we learn when he goes outside after firing two people maybe more. We only saw the two. We learn right away. Why don't need extra tires?

Sal Rodriguez:

Yes, yes. The old pop the tires. But Sal, who leaves a knife? Well, that's to send a message. Okay, that's what that is. I would think so. And a knife is a message

Jason Connell:

you could dislike pop it and then take your knife, but he whoever was left the knife. Well,

Sal Rodriguez:

hang on. Is that another foreshadow? Exactly. Let's remember that knife folks. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

Well, it's a different but yeah. Oh. Anyway, so now we're at home and Dalton is reading Jim Harrison's Legends of the Fall. Oh, is that what that is? Yeah. Okay. As Wesley, other side of the pond, throws an orgy. Some big soiree party.

Sal Rodriguez:

I call it a rager. I mean, women are getting topless. I mean, thrown into the pool. I mean, it's a wild party.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. And we spot Denise the blonde bombshell played by Jillian Michaels. That's been at the double deuce. So she's a frequent guest visitor patron

Sal Rodriguez:

at the double Deuce with a Frisbee Barfly. You don't hear that term. Barfly. It

Jason Connell:

was more like someone who's just always at a stool drinking Oh, okay. Okay, that was a drunk. She's there to like, be seem it would

Sal Rodriguez:

seem she's there to hook up, maybe

Jason Connell:

hook up be seen when she's not a Wesley's. She's a double deuce. Yes. So in the morning, another waitress carry played by Kathleen will helped. You might recognize her from er la law. She was also backup choir for the carpenters music band. So that will come into play later in this movie. But she's real bubbly and loving and immediately was super nice to Dalton and she brings breakfast

Sal Rodriguez:

very sweet gesture that has happened to me in the past. Definitely a sweet gesture bringing someone breakfast in bed. And for

Jason Connell:

bringing breakfast. She sees what Wow, we get to

Sal Rodriguez:

see the Swayze bootay here. I was not expecting that. I was not expecting. I think the last time I saw of male booty and 80s film was Terminator, right? Didn't we see Arnold's but?

Jason Connell:

Yes, we did. decide to sell everything for a brief second in terminal. There we go. Watch Roadhouse twice recently. Did you look at the but both times?

Sal Rodriguez:

I did. I could not look away. This was Swayze. I don't think it was a stunt double. No. I mean, if you have an opportunity to see sways these but I don't care what your sexual orientation is. You're gonna you're gonna have a look.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. Well, Carrie goes on to share. What exactly?

Sal Rodriguez:

warning about Wesley? Right. You don't wanna mess with this guy.

Jason Connell:

And what he did the night before by firing?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, yeah, yeah. He said you shouldn't fire the bartender. That was his nephew.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And so the dog is not affected by this. He's been down this road a million times. So you know, she's warning she's a sweet girl. Somehow she found him first of all,

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah, well, small town, I guess. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

Where would he be staying at old limits place?

Sal Rodriguez:

Emma's place. I had a look at that. He wanted to be paid pay $100 a month for that place. I wasn't gonna pay that. That's ridiculous. There's no running water. And like holy smokes right away. First thing he does.

Jason Connell:

Well, I'm glad you said that. He is always smoking.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Which is you know, by today's standards. That's the times you will you wouldn't imagine a martial artists today. doing that. But back then a that's what everybody did.

Jason Connell:

Well, this leads to a scene that I never stopped thinking about. So it's funny. It's classic. I know you're gonna remember as well, having to seen the movie twice recently. But when was Lee's not owning the air and his chopper. He is owning the road when his Mustang. Oh, this scene Sal and his plane. Shoo bop, by the crew cuts and he is like, singing along. It's a two lane road. And he is literally doing both lanes to slowly fishing in and out of them. Which also reminds myself a great scene from Seinfeld. One episode we're laying and we're talking because they taken the paint out of one of the lanes on a highway. So it made like double wide lanes. I think Kramer was involved. And she's like, Oh, this is just so roomy on this road. Much like what Wesley is doing, you're taking two lanes and just enjoying it. But of course this leads to here comes Dolan because he's, you know, heading into the auto sales shop to get some stuff. And yeah, he nearly hits him. Wesley was not moving south. He was holding true to that in a plain chicken.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, well in a game of chicken, he would have won officially right?

Jason Connell:

You don't even know he think was he might be asleep at the wheel or drunker. He just does it because he just doesn't care about anybody. So

Sal Rodriguez:

he's the living example of that old expression. He drives like he owns the road. He really was driving like he owned the road.

Jason Connell:

King of the Road. Yeah, he probably does on the road, actually. Yeah, he probably

Sal Rodriguez:

set up the construction crew to lay down the road. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

well, where adulting was headed was red auto sales and away meat red. who married an ugly woman sell immediately. So yeah, yeah. Also another great character this movie sprinkles in these great characters. Well, great actors I should say. I

Sal Rodriguez:

was gonna say that. Yeah. How do you how do you distinguish between great characters and great actors were on the same boat went

Jason Connell:

and met like casting was phenomenal not to mention all the people I mentioned the beginning I made these smaller roles. It's like they didn't mess around. They got great people and read immediately you empathize with him. He jokes around with adult and they have a nice exchange because he sees the beater and you know, it's cheaper to do this than this. And he just knows he's going to have a repeat client. Yes.

Sal Rodriguez:

And read alludes to other guys having come before

Jason Connell:

writen Yeah, and by the way for context, double deuces right there. Yes. And you can see it from

Sal Rodriguez:

auto sales. It's like it's a stone's throw. Yeah, I

Jason Connell:

think those were built those facades were built for the movie.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Okay. We'll get into that later because unfortunately, there's a hard moment to see related to the auto parts store but yes, okay. You think they were built?

Jason Connell:

Yeah, that's what I read. So okay. Okay, sides. And then the interiors were some more so maybe they did some of it inside. But yeah, you can kind of tell that they're just big structures. But Wesley, and Jimmy enter now wisely, is bringing Jimmy Alana Jimmy I should say, is played by Marshall R. Teague is in movies like The Rock Armageddon, but I just quickly want to shed some light on him. He's like the tough. Also, this looks kind of like a badass. This guy was a retired US Navy officer, former deputy sheriff in Memphis, Tennessee, and he won the NATO heavyweight kickboxing championship during his time in service. So he's not new to martial arts. And you'll see that later. Besides Dolan, he's right there, right. He knows his stuff. But he just looks menacing, like the Bulldog. So you know, Wesley just brings him along. But as they're coming in, you get the sense like, that's not good. And by the way, so he's bringing him in. If I'm not mistaken, Wesley was headed the other direction. And now he's at reds. Two minutes later,

Sal Rodriguez:

he must have went to go pick up Jimmy and

Jason Connell:

then hightailed it back. Maybe he didn't lollygag he just like, really put the pedal to the metal. But I

Sal Rodriguez:

think in this scene is where we is we learned at this moment. With him walking in with Jimmy, I think is this world where we see and learn that Jimmy is like the number one guy. We can then assume he's the baddest guy of the Hench baddest

Jason Connell:

guy, right? And we're shocked to understand that Wesley because we kind of saw him flying around. And when he landed, his henchmen came to the chopper to get him. You kind of have a sense like, this guy runs things. Yes, he's a little accident, you know, that he's just happens to it's weird that he lives right next to him. And on the other side of the small pond. I mean, a guy like this probably doesn't want to live I shot of anybody. But that's a great device for the movie. Thank goodness, they put him there. But quickly Dalton's getting the he's understanding the fact that okay, this guy runs down. He might not be the mayor. But he's running the town. He's orchestrating the town. He's probably seen something similar. In a previous city, I'm sure. Right. The small towns really tight knit. And he's in this line of war, but very interesting. So read immediately to his tone as being a good actor. Not happy. He went from having a good time to like, here comes the devil to collect.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, he says something like a beautiful day, isn't it? And red says it was

Jason Connell:

exactly yeah. So now we cut to Emmet. And He spots the Mercedes so it's kind of that dark tone this movie just makes right then like Oh, things aren't what they appear or things aren't as they appear, right? Yeah, like Red's been visited by someone who's kind of like the mafia, if you will, for lack of a better word, starting em, it's reveals a Mercedes it's like, how's this guy afford this? I asked him if he could afford $100 Or rent. And he's got this Mercedes. He's immediately thinking the worst. Yeah, got a drug dealer, drug dealer running from something and meanwhile, while this is going on, Dalton is doing what Sal?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, no, you gotta tell me Jason is Dalton doing? Are they forms are they cheat to me? It's a form of Tai Chi. Yes, I love his flexibility in this

Jason Connell:

Oh, he's fantastic. And it couldn't be forms but he's got moves. He looks great. He looks fantastic. While this is going on, and we haven't seen enough of Lesley today he comes rolling up on a

Sal Rodriguez:

on an ATC See that's what we used to call them ATC altering cycle, which is three wheels not to be confused with ATV which is four wheels. It was my understanding this goes way back at CES were officially declared illegal there was too many deaths. Too many accidents a

Jason Connell:

lot of broken collarbone. Oh, not when I was in middle school high school. Kids would just you're done and it's rolling on you. It's on top of you. Go down a little embankment.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, so then they vanished. Yeah, you don't see him anymore.

Jason Connell:

So you're right you brought this up the other day it was a TC ATV replace that but then a lot of my friends just call it three wheelers. I was on one once and that was enough. I got unscathed next

Sal Rodriguez:

was you have a good time? It's okay.

Jason Connell:

But it's funny how was it comes rolling up? Yes, it looks adult and kind of has a sense of his own. This guy could be trouble for me

Sal Rodriguez:

while he's he sees Doulton doing this Tai Chi across the river right now. Yeah. Wow.

Jason Connell:

When I say pond, I could skip a few rocks and beyond the other side. Yeah, it's well that

Sal Rodriguez:

big. Is it a river or is it a pond?

Jason Connell:

I'm going to call it upon until proven otherwise. If that's a river, that water is not moving, and it just looks like a body of water. There's this detail, and it looks like a pond to me.

Sal Rodriguez:

Okay, so sort of like a remnant of a pond that a golf course would have.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. Yeah. Probably have some golf balls in there that Wesley's hit.

Sal Rodriguez:

And I'm under the impression that Wesley wants me out of there. I bet you he's tried to drive them out. Buy him out. Yeah, I bet you that property. Amazon been there like four or five generations. He's not going anywhere.

Jason Connell:

He's got gold underneath their black gold. He's gonna sit down. It's an oil. So back at the double deuce. Tillman reinstates, Pat, who's Wesley's nephew. Yeah, but Dolan has other plants,

Sal Rodriguez:

young adult and walks in and they're having this private meeting.

Jason Connell:

Now before we get into it, so I gotta say, Pat, sort of resembles Bill Paxton recipes. You think so? Yeah, there's a little bit there's a certain look, it's like, oh, my gosh, smiles. He could be in the packs and family. Like it's it. But this leads to another classic fight. But Sal, what happens?

Sal Rodriguez:

At first, they just they try to shoo Dalton along like, listen, Pat works for Wesley, that's his nephew. And his nephew works for him. So he's working here. There you go. Mind your business, you know? No, Dalton pushed the issue. He's like, I need to know. I didn't know a little more. They probably would have let him walk. But he pushed the issue and yeah, a fight ensues.

Jason Connell:

Well, not just to fight Pat pulls a knife out a knife pull. Dalton throws him out of the window out of Tillman's window. Yeah, he gets stabbed again. But he wins the fight.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Oh, it but they get that's where he gets stabbed on his torso. Oh, it's a deep

Jason Connell:

wound. And I gotta say it's not. I'm not real big on for this show point out flaws and mistakes. But this one made me laugh. Right bow or Pat was even punched by adult. Yes, there's a cut. And I don't know how this wound up in the movie. And it's his face. And he's already bloody. He's already got a bloody nose. It was like an insert. And it's like, oh my gosh, that it's so fast that you don't see it. But I thought I saw something back that up ensures anything. He's bleeding, pre punch. So now we go to the hospital sadhana. Here's a guy that stitches himself up. But I think because these wounds are deep, as we just talked about.

Sal Rodriguez:

He deals with wounds that were intentionally inflicted. It's not like if you were I scrape our elbow on a nail sticking out of the wall. I mean, he is walking in with cuts, having been assaulted.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, but still don't could probably handle it. But it's kind of deep, and maybe he couldn't access it. So he goes into the hospital, very fortuitous trip to the hospital. I gotta say,

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, hang on. Do you see the guy? It's soon as we get to the hospital? The old man coming out of the bathroom. Oh, yeah. I did a pause on that. Am I seeing what I'm seeing here? Yeah.

Jason Connell:

And he's barely moving. It's just great. It's great. So Dalton goes in and we quickly learn that he has had 31 broken bones, two bullet wounds, nine puncture wounds, four stainless steel screws. And that's just kind of generalizing. He also has an NYU philosophy degree. Majored in that and we meet

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, well, I want to call her Elizabeth. But it seems as she's called Duck

Jason Connell:

on IMDb. It is dark that didn't vocalist Oh, really. But we made Kelly Lynch. She plays doc Elizabeth. And she looks fantastic.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, fantastic scene, great chemistry. I'm loving the chemistry. And whenever I see good chemistry, I always wonder is Is it real? Are they such good actors, because real good actors can pull off chemistry to do you know, for the viewer, but I'm thinking I'm loving these two together.

Jason Connell:

And she also points out that he is now going to get add this to his dossier, nine staples, nine staples. He probably couldn't do that on his own as easily. Yeah, so those are pretty deep fixes that. And he has a couple of great quotes here, such as pain don't hurt like that. Yeah. And then she asked him how he got in his line of work. And he says, Just lucky I guess

Sal Rodriguez:

just lucky I guess that's also referring to that very moment him talking to her him him scoring that doctor instead of another doctor right. That's what that implies that

Jason Connell:

Rodriguez walks in there after getting stabbed what doctor you getting,

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm not even getting a doctor. I'm getting some doctor low level nurse come in and staple me and running out and I don't even have time to ask questions. That's what I'm getting.

Jason Connell:

You're getting the nine year old dude. Not getting Kelly Lynch. Doc.

Sal Rodriguez:

So Dalton refuses the local?

Jason Connell:

Yes, he Sesia because that's what he says paint don't hurt.

Sal Rodriguez:

Does that imply there are other things in life that do hurt? This isn't one of them is that there's a lot of subtext I think to some of this. You know,

Jason Connell:

all there is absolutely. So now we're meeting at Wesley's and his house across the pond from admits there's a monster truck there. So it was really big in the 80s. Right around but no, that was a big deal. especially back then

Sal Rodriguez:

that was I believe a though it didn't say that was or was a tribute to Bigfoot the original monster truck Yeah, I remember back. Yep. That because because I believe the original Bigfoot it was a Ford F 250. And I'm pretty sure that was a Ford F 250. You got me there, but it's beautiful. I mean, it's if you Yeah, if you're a fan of Monster Trucks if you remember monster trucks. Yeah, they are still around. And now they're doing crazy stuff. Now they're doing like somersaults and stuff. I mean, they're doing crazy stuff with these monster trucks. But right there, you're looking at one of the originals.

Jason Connell:

That's amazing. I only know their monster trucks because the big tires. I don't know anything else and

Sal Rodriguez:

they've gotten bigger. Those tires. Believe it or not, if you go to the local Monster Jam, the tires have gotten bigger.

Jason Connell:

Well, this meeting is because Wesley is not happy with O'Connor O'Connor was the guy that was at Tillman's and Tillman's office and telling Dalton that Pat's reinstated, he's mad someone's gonna pay because they couldn't handle Dalton. And this becomes a scene about seeing O'Connor get beat up and you see how dark and demented Wesley can be. He wants to like get everyone lined up, and then take his pain out on someone and show him and everyone else around. Who's in charge.

Sal Rodriguez:

This is one of those scenes that reinforces how evil he is. I guess you see that he's cruel. He's cold. He's callous. He's heartless. He's everything evil, vengeful. Just cruelty for cruelty sake. Yep.

Jason Connell:

So now we cut Tourette's and Dalton pulls up. This is a normal thing for Dalton now, visiting red. But as he pulls up, Jimmy and some thug are leaving.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, this is like the executive though because he's got a tie. I don't know who this he's got the look like he just left the office and like right, undid his ties. He's got the business thug look.

Jason Connell:

But what do we learn as Dalton goes inside?

Sal Rodriguez:

They trashed the place. Yep. And read at first he's thinking, Oh, my God, read. Hello. Are you okay? Are you hurt? Are you alive? And read comes out with a mop and a bucket. He's used to this. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

Turns out Westley takes 10% or more as part of the Jasper improvement society.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Kind of like an unofficial homeowner's association. You'd have to get kind of extorted into and then once you're in you're stuck.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, I do not want to be part of the GIS. I'll tell you that right now. You gotta move at that time. So this town I know it's this town. This town on the wall we see a photo of home Oh, Doc doc right there well yeah Mexican action related you know daughter nice don't know but yeah, somehow connected to read.

Sal Rodriguez:

What did you know right away that there was a relation as far as you know, blood relation there because I thought it'd be like one of those. You remember when you go to the dry cleaners and they'd have all the all the headshots?

Jason Connell:

That'd be more than one. Yeah. What was she Dhaka the year. So now we cut to something you might really enjoy, sell wet G string contest every night. And then, of course, T shirts canceled out it's G string at this place.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, this was really great. I mean, I just don't think movies today and I mean, you know, in this decade, the the 2000s Yeah, I just feel like there's not as big on nudity. As a lot of these movies. Were back in the 70s and 80s. Yeah, I agree. And for crying out loud, we need to do something about it.

Jason Connell:

Just watch Roadhouse again. But who do we meet? So,

Sal Rodriguez:

this is where we meet a Wade play by Sam Elliott, Wade Garrett. And I really, like I said, my second view, and I really got into his role really got into his character. Amazing. Oh, every little gesture with the hair and everything. Fantastic.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, cause that limp. He's been in this business a long time. Yeah, severe lamp. He's an old war dog. So Dalton calls and he's asking if he knows or I've ever heard of Wesley because Wade has been in this business longer because also just to be clear, Wade is also a cooler. Yes, this is a bar he's in and he's got this place pretty buttoned up as well. Right? Yeah, like you see a GI go crazy for the girl wants to go on stage. He's like, hey, no, no, he knows how to calm them down. Yes, keep them chill.

Sal Rodriguez:

And he does and he squashes it good. He moves along and the guy start to behave themselves. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

exactly. Yeah, they're like squirting each other with squirt guns and they're cool. And of course Garrett's never heard of him and then all sudden a little mini fight breaks out he's like, I gotta go man. But this guy could just tell he's cool and probably mentored don't all these years is all I thought about immediately. They probably have all these this history again. Great pretty cool. Young Garrett younger adult and nice if John Hall goes there. Hey, might as well bring that in. It's a great component and it would be great. But fight begins. They have to get off the call. You think is that all I'm gonna see if Garrett Well, lucky for us? No. So we're back at the double Deuce and sell. This place now resembles the bandstand from the opening. It's completely changed. Tillman has put money into it. Yeah. Looks beautiful, but a makeover and it happened very quickly. I don't know when this happened but they got in there and they fix it up. We see Carrie who I talked about earlier who used to be choir for the carpenters. She singing covers. Yes, Cody. And sound no chicken wire.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Okay. And that's how you know the place is upgraded. That's how you know no chicken wire. Yeah. Have you ever been to a place with actual chicken wire was from?

Jason Connell:

I would love it. If I saw it. I'd be like, Oh my God.

Sal Rodriguez:

Like you'd be all excited about I'd be like, Wow, he's flying by your head.

Jason Connell:

Can I just throw a bottle at them? No. So immediately, we see Denise and she's hitting on door. Yeah, that's gonna go nowhere fast. But guess who steps in and takes her home?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, well, Jimmy grabs her. Yeah, he forcibly removed her from the premises. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

And when that happens, they exit the parking lot. And then comes the monster truck driver from the earlier scene. He's coming in with other thugs. Yeah, like like newer thugs? Yeah, some people we've seen some we haven't. Oh, Connor could be there a couple of nameless thugs. Probably some old wrestler Sal. Oh, yeah. Brah honestly, from the 80s but this is another great line that I never forgot. So from across the room. Dalton's he's always scanning. He's in control. Never drinking. Only coffee. Yeah. Coffee. Yes. Let it I think not. Yes, yes. And he's looking across the room. And he immediately spot something coming in on the monster truck driver. And once you say,

Sal Rodriguez:

I know what he sees. You're talking on the boot. Yeah, I mean, yeah. The blade in the boot. Right boot? Oh, yes. Yes. And then they

Jason Connell:

saw that thing. He must have just got like a little, like a glimmer, like, yeah, shine, and what you see

Sal Rodriguez:

when they went on, and when you see the blade you see it. But he saw it before that. Yeah. So he's got the EagleEye

Jason Connell:

then they move in. And of course, this leads to another great fight sequence. I mean, this guy saw there's a lot of knives in this movie guns later, but right now a lot of knives and they're not afraid to use them. And we've seen Dalton get stabbed twice. This guy's coming in with a knife out of a boot. And he's kicking Dalton for the head.

Sal Rodriguez:

This guy is going for a kill shot. That's a kill shot. Yes.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. Are you kidding me? Well, Dalton's a badass and it grabs that leg and I swear he broke this guy's knee. But then the next shot. He's the guy still rolling around,

Sal Rodriguez:

but but I like how he pulled the boot off and throw it on the roof.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, pulls him out of the double deuce. And then yeah, those that up out of the way. fight breaks out, not breaks out. It continues. And it ends very victorious. They bested these guys. Right? But who is there watching waiting in the wings? Looking so fantastic.

Sal Rodriguez:

And I love the waiting at this moment you you'll get even though Dalton had to deal with this. As soon as he turns and sees doc standing there. That's the moment you envy. Dalton right at that moment. Not not really before right now.

Jason Connell:

Now because she's there to see him. Oh, yeah. Because he did invite her. I mean, to be honest, and to be clear at the hospital, he's okay. You ever want to come by?

Sal Rodriguez:

But I don't think he really thought that she maybe would go back to your but do you think she's okay. She's a physician. And he's basically inviting her to a dive bar off hand. You think she's gonna go?

Jason Connell:

Well, he's not your normal random guy.

Sal Rodriguez:

He's not Sal. Rodri.

Jason Connell:

He's interesting. He's interesting. And I love her red and white plaid dress is looking really cute and inviting. And so they go off. And they go to Barney's grill, home cooking, and have really the first day. I mean, that was just the first meet cute at the hospital. So this is our first day. And now they go back to Dalton's car. And what do we see this time?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, they drive up. And I don't think she saw it first. But he definitely saw it first. Right? Yeah. A stop sign. somebody throws a stop sign through the passenger window on real, you know, route first. And so the big stop is sticking out of his window. Yeah, probably slashed a tire too, as well. I'm Charlie and Dalton's used to this. Right. This is just another night for him.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. But before he gets out of the car, so they share their first kiss.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, yeah. Very nice. So

Jason Connell:

you know, hey, this is going somewhere. This is a great device for the movie, because he might want to get the heck out of dodge. This is too much. He's made his money from Tillman. Maybe I'm ready to move on to the next town. But now he's got a reason to stay.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, yeah, it's one of those Should I Stay or Should I Go and she is the reason to stay at this point.

Jason Connell:

Right. And the more he gets close to her And she's connected to read and he sees funny business going on. And all of a sudden,

Sal Rodriguez:

you know, it's in the family. Now you live in Jasper.

Jason Connell:

So next day O'Connor and a very big guy arrive at adults. And so I love how they say. We've been looking all over for you. So this is a small town. Yeah. Dalton's always at the double deuce. Or he lives across the pond from the guy looking for him. So I don't know how many places these guys went. But

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah, what is no Jim he's not at the gym. Now.

Jason Connell:

We've been looking all this is Jasper, Missouri, in this town is tiny. So this leads to a meeting at Wesley's was this had enough? Okay, if you keep beating my guys up, maybe I can talk some sense into this guy. Yeah. But when he goes inside, one of the first things he sees is Denise, what is you see about her?

Sal Rodriguez:

She has she has signs of abuse. Right. Would you say domestic it's like domestic abuse, you would probably say seen as how she appears to live there. She's doing aerobics, some sort of Jazzercise there in the living room. And yeah, we see that she has bruises. She appears to be victim of an assault. Yeah, but she covers it. She covers it out of out of shame. Yeah, right. It's probably all in a normal day for her to have something like that. But she wasn't expecting Dalton to walk in. So she starts covering herself and turns away. Yeah, very. Yeah. Sort of sad moment that you're like, well, it's one thing that this guy's evil to the general public, but but he's also a domestic abuser as well. I mean, this guy's like evil on every level.

Jason Connell:

That may have been Jimmy as well. Jimmy grabbed her pulled her we don't know

Sal Rodriguez:

true. It could have been Jimmy. But that would have to that would mean then that Wesley allows Jimmy to beat her. Yeah. Who knows? Who know who

Jason Connell:

knows? It's complicated. Yeah, it's complicated. So now Wesley, gives us some backstory on himself, grew up on the streets of Chicago, it was in the Korean War. Then he moved here, he brought 711 photo mat, JC Penney is going to come here because of him. So this guy's got a lot of things going on. And he doesn't want this st. Dalton to come in and change the way things running. But he probably thinks like I just said, he can probably bring him on board or talk sense into him or pay him off. And he also did some recon on Dalton himself called you guys. And what do we find out because we really don't know Dalton's past? No. So what do we learn

Sal Rodriguez:

here? Well, apparently there was an incident in Memphis in years past, involving a death or a possible murder blood on the hands of Dalton. And Wesley brings it up throws us in Dalton's face, I think sort of in a way of letting him know that he has something over him or he can always bring that up later use that against him. I think he he let them know. Listen, I know dirt on you. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

I got something. You can just tell by Dalton's reaction. This is not fabricated. This is real.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. It's not just an accusation. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

And then he pretty much offers total whatever he wants, you know, like, what would it take? Come work for me how much but he rejects that offer.

Sal Rodriguez:

If Doulton were a lesser man. Yeah. He'd be like, well, or

Jason Connell:

he Sal Rodriguez. What's your,

Sal Rodriguez:

what's your 500 a night I'm getting that the double deuce. I need 1000 A Night to come work. You know, honestly, I wouldn't even say he's too evil. I mean, come on. This guy's a real evil guy. He's not he's not just an asshole. No, he's an evil person

Jason Connell:

I was getting you wouldn't take that deal. And nor does Dalton. And he walked right out, you know, had the meeting. And so I think that was the probably respects it sees a lot of himself and Dalton, but on the other side of the spectrum, you know, he's not dirty and malicious and conniving. And he's not apt to do harm in the world. But he probably is like, this is gonna be a thorn in my side. I can just tell.

Sal Rodriguez:

Right? What because even if you're a bully, like this is one thing I used to experience as a kid. I wasn't one of those kids who got bullied so much or really, because in that because I was a tough kid. Because the bullies knew they were going to have some sort of trouble I would not make it was not gonna be easy, right to bully me. Or I'm gonna come back or I'm gonna pop the tires on your bike, or I'm gonna do something you're likely not in there. I'll leave a knife in your BMX. I will. So it was kind of like that. This guy's gonna give me trouble. I just need to get him on my team and move on is what he probably was is what he's thinking.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. So now we're back at the double deuce. And there's a new bartender, Ernie, played by Keith David. Sal. I love this guy. The thing? Yeah, they live. Oh, yeah. Man at work. Always loved Keith. David. He doesn't have a big role in

Sal Rodriguez:

this. No, no. There I did a double take because yeah, you're right. He doesn't have a big role in this. So I was like, Wait a second. And yeah, I recognize him. Yeah. Great to see him on the screen.

Jason Connell:

Great to see him. And then we find out that Wesley shuts off the booze Now that's going to impact double Deuce for sure what Tillman can or can't do. So not good. Not a good thing.

Sal Rodriguez:

No, Wesley controls the booze distribution of

Jason Connell:

the town. So we got to solve this and this Doulton leaves. Guess who's back? Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

very nice to see.

Jason Connell:

Doc is back. Yeah. Which is great. And then what does Jimmy mean by dig a hole? Did you catch that?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I think because, okay, in hindsight, I'm thinking it's because they see Doulton with duck, and they know about the history which we will reveal shortly the history of Doc and Westlake because

Jason Connell:

I should say, Jimmy is outside in the parking lot overseen, Dalton coming out, there's doc and he sees them come together. And he says to Yeah, they have a chuckle at first, immediately. That's when we know like everyone's just one degree away from each other. Yeah. And that's exactly what it means.

Sal Rodriguez:

It's like my old high school, Sylmar High School, northeast end of the San Fernando Valley, not far from Sylmar juvenile detention facility. Yeah. And there was a time if you went to Sylmar high where you dated somebody your friend dated your friend dated somebody his cousin dated, there was a lot of that and even as a teen I noticed that so yeah, this town probably not so different.

Jason Connell:

No. So now we're at home adult and plays these arms of mine, Otis Redding, and Sal, this leads to such a memorable, steamy, romantic sex.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, it's fantastic. And you know what, there's this little moment where Doc skirt were adult and

Jason Connell:

she Okay, so give us a play by play. Okay, listen,

Sal Rodriguez:

she either a I'm gonna say it's the 80s and she had high waisted panties. Because if she did not have high waisted panties,

Jason Connell:

she had no panties at all. Wow.

Sal Rodriguez:

Okay, that's all I'll say.

Jason Connell:

Well, it's great. And just to think a year later, Swayze is doing it again. No pun intended. And ghost. Oh, another classic, you know, highly regarded sex.

Sal Rodriguez:

Poor Patrick Swayze ways. I feel so bad for both of them. Right. I feel so bad for the female feel so bad for Swayze. You know, it's just really terrible.

Jason Connell:

Then Doulton goes outside. I want to call it a deck but it's not a back. It's just like the top of cover. Yeah, he kind of sets up shop there while she's sleeping. Yeah, maybe looking at the moon or something. Yeah, she comes out joins him. Nice exchange. You know, they're talking nice banter. But what I love is the peeping tom, across the pond. Sal, again, back to my point, how close it is. binocular? No,

Sal Rodriguez:

no, he's

Jason Connell:

just like, yeah, who is this out? And what is he? What is he doing? Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

it's like Hitchcock's rear window. But there's no binoculars or wheelchair because they're close. They're that close. Yeah, it's just over the pond. And yeah, he sees now does he recognize while he sees her Jeep? Yes. sees her Jeep. Okay, so then he sees a woman haha. Okay, because I would say from that distance, you wouldn't maybe recognize the woman maybe. But you see the car. You see the blonde. Your henchmen told you about earlier. So there you go. So yeah, he sees

Jason Connell:

Jimmy said I saw them together, which put him on that porch on that rocking chair.

Sal Rodriguez:

Okay, so you Okay, so I thought he just happened to be there. No, he are. Oh, okay. In that case, not only is he a horrible person in public of domestic abuser, he's also peeping Tom. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

The worst. Well, the next morning, we get him in again, just for a minute. And it's great a brief appearance, a brief exchange, share some wisdom about women. And it's really great. And then he's got the scenes over, but because we're back at the double deuce, and Doulton smokes as usual, yeah. That's part of his character. He's always smoking. Yeah. And I thought, wow, he just wouldn't see that. Now. They in fact, we'll see if Jake Gyllenhaal does it. And the reboot if they do it, I just don't think they will.

Sal Rodriguez:

Look, since we're talking Jason about cigarettes, the reboot of Greece. There's none Gone. Gone. Yeah. That's what happens. People hate cigarettes. You know why people hate big tobacco. That's what they that's what it is.

Jason Connell:

So Cody shares Doc's name, which is

Sal Rodriguez:

Elizabeth, Elizabeth clay. And her ex

Jason Connell:

is,

Sal Rodriguez:

well hang on, Jason. I'm sorry. I don't think that that's her ex. I think that Wesley had a thing for her, which implies you have like a crush on her. Maybe

Jason Connell:

that's true. We don't know if they were ever an item. Yeah. Or he just said I gotta have this girl and I chased her. Well, I had an idea that he charmed her, you can be charming, and they may have started to get together and had a brief romance and then she's like this guy. Okay, I think he could pretend to be something else. He could be a chameleon he could

Sal Rodriguez:

well because I mean, okay, look, on one hand, he's like some boss Enforcer. On the other hand, he's like, Take a community developer, right?

Jason Connell:

That's what I mean. So I think that he wooed her, and then she saw his stripes. Well, I was like, I'm out. That's my opinion, but whatever it is, they're talking about wisely. Yeah. So now adult and understands like, oh, wow, she's gotta pass with him, which he takes much harder. He's probably thinking, Oh, they were like, super, super serious. Sure. And he's still around, and he starts to get a little bit jealous, and that comes up later. But now we know that Cody is well informed. So

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah, Cody has his finger on the pulse. Yeah, right. He knows what's going down.

Jason Connell:

He's connected. So now that liquor arrives, the liquor that Wesley was banning, they must have outsourced some other liquor. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

Because you remember adult and got on the phone, I guess he who maybe has a connection, some exact somebody owed him a favor, so he

Jason Connell:

knows people. He's likable, who wouldn't want to work with dolt and again, like, oh, yeah, this guy's over here in Ohio. And because he even knows the driver. YEAH. Jimmy take a break. So he knows people. But as the liquor arrives, so does someone else. Yeah. And so who is that?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I want to call him wait, I'm still stuck on Wait.

Jason Connell:

Let's say the whole name then.

Sal Rodriguez:

What is the whole name? Wade Garrett. Here we go. Wade Garrett. It's a good name.

Jason Connell:

Roll it off on of course. He's not a motorcycles. So cool. No helmet.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, kind of Easy Rider looking.

Jason Connell:

He looks up at that sign in. Do you remember what he says? Do you remember what he calls the double deuce?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, double douche.

Jason Connell:

Another. In fact, Garrett has so many great one liners. So yes, we're taking this and we're happy that Garretts there. We knew that kind of just spin it on the phone. Right? This is Sam Elliot. And it seems like there's gonna be more than one phone call. Sure. It's not a cameo. Sunday cameo. Then the thugs arrived because the liquors there they know it and they've already banned said liquor. Sure. This starts what

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah, they're there to intercept this liquor. How dare you try to get liquor in here? You know, Wesley runs the liquor in this town. This is where that extra big guy is there. Right? Huge.

Jason Connell:

This guy's a giant Yeah. Had to be a wrestler. Our football player. He didn't

Sal Rodriguez:

look familiar, but this guy must have been he's huge, huge.

Jason Connell:

And so they arrive O'Connor's one of them. He's already been beaten up two times. At least one so far. By dawn was Lee's beat him up, knocked him out. But he's he's back. He's a soldier, man. Yeah. And he shows up. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

And he was the guy that got ridiculed and assaulted repeatedly by Wesley. And get there. Yes, reporting back to work. Yes.

Jason Connell:

I mean, it was it knocked him out.

Sal Rodriguez:

I've had some bad bosses, but that takes the

Jason Connell:

cats. That's pretty bad. Four of them. Jimmy takes a break. He's the guy delivering the booze. Yes, Dalton's they're four on one and the big guy just start slamming the liquor. While they're all attacking Dalton and he's four on one. He's holding his own. But eventually they kind of have him when they're taking some shots at him. But then Harmon Garrett comes because he went inside first comes outside to see what's going on. And the first thing he says is meal. Oh, yeah. You know what that means? If I'm

Sal Rodriguez:

not mistaken, it's a term of endearment. Yeah, it means little one or like little boy, I think my son

Jason Connell:

Oh, seven. I looked it up nice. And you can just tell like, Okay, now the tides have churned. And we see for the first time Garrett really kicks a mess.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Because before that the only people on Dalton side were like all these other younger bodyguards that he was mentoring. Yeah, the ones who were there already. He's teaching them. They're having to give each other the glances, they have to get the nod of approval from him and all that. So this is the first time he actually has some legitimate reinforcement.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. He's mentored by him. He comes in, takes out the guy, some nice shots, he moves a little slower. He's not as graceful now as Dalton. And in fact, what was coming to mind was what doc was saying to adult and like, you can't do this line of work forever. You know, you're gonna be crippled. And then I was thinking like, wow, she's really talking about what Garrett looks like. Garrett represents what Dalton could be. His move and slow is set in his ways. It's a crash course to nowheresville. Right it's almost

Sal Rodriguez:

it's almost a rude awakening. I used to hear this term with these guys I used to hang out with they used to say, if you want to know where you'll be in 20 years look at somebody who has had your job 20 years longer than you've had

Jason Connell:

your Jerry you go yeah, this is where he could be I just watching it now for notes. I was like, Oh my gosh, and there's more we'll get into it as Garrett's role continues in the movie continues. But with Garrett's help, I mean don't maybe got beat up a little bit, but he was probably gonna get out of that. He just knows more. They've had the upper hand for a second. But the best them they move on, they win that fight and they go off to the hospital, but so not to get looked at or anything prepared, the guys are okay. There's a little bruised, they're there to pick up duck.

Sal Rodriguez:

Way didn't know this.

Jason Connell:

No. But he had a sense because Dalton said, I want you to meet someone introduce you to someone. He kind of had a feeling it was a female. And then she comes over. And I should say that other to pick her up because she does drive because later she leaves the restaurant drives home. So you know, maybe one of them got in the car with her. Maybe she followed them. So they go out and I love the scene there at some bar. We don't know the name of this bar. It's late. They don't go the double Deuce they go somewhere else. And this scene really reminds me of Joss because they start to talk about scars. It's a nice homage to jaws. You know, he's got the scar here and it shows the scar that the female gave him. The moment he was seen. So really great. And the night is getting long. It's becoming day. And they go somewhere else because Garrett doesn't want to dance. Exactly. She wants to dance with

Sal Rodriguez:

what is it gonna be at five, six in the morning. You want to dance? This? Is he

Jason Connell:

is this guy all nighter. So they're off to a diner to dance could be Bonnie's grill again, I don't know, you know, from earlier in the movie. Yes. And then a great line from Garrett. As he sees Dalton yawn as they're dancing all my ex live in Texas, and they're dancing. And he looks over and dolt and just gives like a he catches it right, just just a brief second. Since God he's great coming out of the gate, but not much for stamina. So good. And that would be a great time for her. That's what she said. But that's a whole other thing. So I mean, but it's great because they just have such a history. You know, you love Buddy pictures. And this is a buddy picture. It just became a buddy picture, like this far in the movie. And he really just brings a whole new energy to it. But it's great because you can tell the dynamics that she's really caring for Doc is really caring for Dalton, and you know, also probably is appreciative of getting to know, Garrett here, but then we get where she leaves. Doc's got to go get some sleep before she goes back to work, right? Because she's been up all night with these guys. And when they sit there late into the morning, we learn more

Sal Rodriguez:

about what happened to dial back in Memphis. Yeah, what do we learn? So, we learn and these are just some short choice words by Garen, right? Apparently there was a woman who was married, but didn't tell Dalton that she was married. And at some point, the husband has a gun to Dalton's head. And then Garrett's line was something like when a man has a gun to your head, right either. What does he say you get killed

Jason Connell:

or you kill them? I guess whenever yes and something

Sal Rodriguez:

like that. Yeah, essentially kill or be killed. You have no choice. In a situation like that. He was kind of let him off the hook and say, Hey, don't carry this around with you. You know, don't carry this burden around with you forever.

Jason Connell:

And he didn't know who the guy was. Probably here's the someone showing up at a no with a gun to your head. Yeah, what do you do?

Sal Rodriguez:

I once had a gun to my head one time at a gas station. I would only say that time kind of stands still.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, that's terrifying. sounds terrifying. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

well, luckily here I am. But yeah, you don't want that. It's pretty serious.

Jason Connell:

And I misspoke. As far as sequencing goes, we learn this Garrett brings us up when dogs in the restroom. Comes back. I know she leaves very soon, but it comes in that moment. Because when she comes back the tones different. Yes, you know, adult and this looks a little bit like, you know, he's remembering and his he's trying to snap out of it. Great acting. So he's trying to come back in the moment. And then she kind of exits because she needs some sleep. So that's kind of the sequencer, but before she leaves another great line from Garrett. He says, Doc, I'll get all the sleep I need when I'm dead. Because he can just go and go and go. But so when he said that this watching this viewing for me, because I hadn't seen in a while I had not seen Roadhouse in a good while. Yeah, it's so obvious to me as the viewer that he's gonna die. It's like this. He's leaving along the way. You know, like, wow, there's all this stuff we already talked about. Then there's that

Sal Rodriguez:

he's in that archetype role of the mentor of the sensei. And that's all

Jason Connell:

he knows he can't change or adult and probably could just watch it now. It's like, wow,

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah. Okay, so yeah, that could be a foreshadow for sure. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

So now we're back at the double deuce, and it's packed. And all is clear. Everything's looking good. No fighting. At a nowhere one of the bouncers comes in and says,

Sal Rodriguez:

What? Reds? autoparts store is on fire. Yeah. Holy cow. And yeah, you're right. It's a stone's throw away, because the owner of the double Deuce looks out of his window. And he looks right at the fire. I can hit it with a Frisbee, and he's thinking, Oh, no, yeah,

Jason Connell:

I'm next. And we have all these people in here. Yeah. But it not only is on fire by the time everyone goes outside, and Don's kind of worried that red might be in there again. You're right. What happens?

Sal Rodriguez:

Explosions and I didn't expect that either. Human the second even the second time I watched the movie I forgot about the explosion. I'm seeing the fire on a horrible enough. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

firemen are falling down being knocked away by the power of the explosions. It was insane. Jimmy by the time it finally settles, and everyone's like, Oh my gosh, taking that in the firemen are going to clean up the pieces. We go back inside the double deuce.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, yeah. This I was not expecting. No, this is. This is pretty ballsy embrace. lievable

Jason Connell:

like you set this up. Everyone's outside. And then you come in with your thugs. Wesley and his crew are at the bar. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. So that's just, he's untouchable. Right. He runs this tab on top, if you could be that brazen. Yeah. And do that. I mean, he's letting everybody know that was me. Pretty much.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, exactly. And he's in there. And he says a few things. Says, play something, Elvis. And I found that to be interesting, because and oh, and he also says, Read Webster. Reds auto sales read Webster was a draft dodger and says a bunch of other bad things

Sal Rodriguez:

about he said other stuff, too. He went he went further.

Jason Connell:

Just a little tidbit little trivia for you. Before the trivia section. Yes, red is played by red West. Oh, real life actor. Rest in peace. He's passed away some time ago now. But in real life, he was very good friends with Elvis Presley. Interesting went to high school together. Football team together. So he was in his inner circle. So I love that Wesley comes in and says play something Elvis, and he's just talking to Cody or whomever to play music. Yeah. And I think later it's like Elvis, play something with balls. And then he's throwing red under the bus. So that's no accident. I'm sure that was written because of the relationship with red wires to Elvis.

Sal Rodriguez:

That's very interesting. I also thought at first or rather on the second viewing that maybe that was a reference to previous incidences in Memphis.

Jason Connell:

Well could have been for all we know. No,

Sal Rodriguez:

that's what I thought maybe that's a reach. But that's what I thought. Memphis Elvis Elvis Memphis.

Jason Connell:

Well, he's holding court. Imagine that. You had a great time you go outside the establishment and next door blows up. You really don't want to go back and party and especially with Wesleyan, his crew there. Yeah, tone is different. But it over and the tone stays different. This is Wesley show. It's like he brought one of those soirees from his house and just plopped here the double dues? Yeah. Because who starts to dance?

Sal Rodriguez:

Denise starts to do a sexy, pour some sugar on me type dance, she gets up on stage and everything which patrons are not allowed to do. Well, they're not and she does a sexy dance doll and

Jason Connell:

does a good job though. He does a very good job of like holding that line. respectful. But he's, he's there. Like you shouldn't be up there. And he's smiling. Because she's full topless at some

Sal Rodriguez:

point. And you know why he's obeying His rules be nice. And

Jason Connell:

she's not being bad, but he's like this can escalate so

Sal Rodriguez:

sure. Well, hang on. While this is happening. I notice. Garrett. Yes. It's like he's getting ready. He knows he can sense it in the air. Yeah. When you've been doing this so long. You can feel it. He puts his hair in a ponytail holes and Terry silver. He pulls a Terisa horse Terry silver pulls a girl yeah, so true. So true. There you go. And then he starts kind of massaging his arm like, oh, maybe he had a little tendinitis?

Jason Connell:

He does. I'm surprised he doesn't do some stretching.

Sal Rodriguez:

So you're like, Okay, he knows something's gonna go down. This isn't going to end so well here

Jason Connell:

now. And then Dalton has a great line of his own. I gotta say when he gets to knees down, and she gets covered up and you kind of have a pet. Keep it on a leash.

Sal Rodriguez:

Double desert gray lines.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. And then south Inter. Jimmy with the pulse. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah. Challenging everyone. Everybody's challenging. Bruce Lee.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, no, yeah. And this guy, like I said earlier, his credentials, he knows some things. And he's confident.

Sal Rodriguez:

He appears to be maybe the lone henchmen that has fight training, right, as opposed to just being a big tough guy. Yeah, this guy kicks ass.

Jason Connell:

He does. And he destroys the bouncers with this pool stick. He knows how to use a staff. He takes them out again, doesn't kill them, puts him down. This is like a video game. They recycle. But then Garrett gets involved. We've only seen him fight during the liquor debacle. And he gets bested by Jimmy.

Sal Rodriguez:

He got a couple of shots in which was good. I liked seeing that. Got a couple of shots.

Jason Connell:

But then as it went on as the fight went on, Jimmy was just too tough for him too strong, too young, whatever. But then our hero steps in and does a great job. Not afraid he can go toe to toe with Jimmy. Yeah. And that's evident, because Wesley does what?

Sal Rodriguez:

Maybe Wesley thought he better do this before he's embarrassed, right? So he pulls out the gun shoots the ceiling. And what does he say enough? Or that's enough?

Jason Connell:

He breaks it up. Yeah. He's like, okay. All right. We've made our point. You don't want

Sal Rodriguez:

to see your number one thug go down in front of you. After you've created such a spectacle, and publicly declared yourself the badass. You don't want to see your number one thug go down right in front of you. That doesn't look good.

Jason Connell:

Know what goes on. Who's next? It's just him. Yeah, yeah, he's the guy. So great seeing they leave everyone leaves. Now we're at reds home. first and only time we've been here. He's moving south. He's packed up. He's ready to move out of town. He's had enough his business has been blown up. One of their guys is like you got insurance, right? But it's interesting that this town the owners or business owners, are there pleading with him to stay? Because I think they know their power and numbers and now's the time to stand up to wisely because otherwise they're all going to fall like red essentially sure what's gonna happen. Those who stood against him are going to be in his path and he's going to come mow you over and do harm.

Sal Rodriguez:

It's sort of a killer be killed moment.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, it is. Great sequence even docks there, Dalton's there. A few others. Tillman's there and Telma does say like, was they were scared last night? Hmm. Don doesn't believe it.

Sal Rodriguez:

No, Dalton says he wasn't. Yeah. I think that Tillman was saying that to encourage Dalton or rally the troops, you know, but yeah, dolt is like, no, no, he wasn't.

Jason Connell:

So now we're at a car lot. We've never been in this car lot before because the car lot we've been to initially was big T auto sales where he bought his theater. This is a different guy. This is a different business owner. The first guy doesn't continue in this movie.

Sal Rodriguez:

You don't know that that actor? Do you the owner of the car lock? All of them down.

Jason Connell:

He's great. No, I

Sal Rodriguez:

didn't have I'm pretty certain that's Hulk Hogan's brother. If I'm not mistaken,

Jason Connell:

how did I miss that? That's fantastic.

Sal Rodriguez:

If that is him, then I did meet him. Wow. If my memory serves me, Well, it's

Jason Connell:

interesting that went from the one auto sales guy, but then like, now let's use this other guy moving forward. And it's like,

Sal Rodriguez:

okay, they could have went to the other guy. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

that guy was already established. That was that Jasper? I thought he bought that car, maybe in Jasper. But the first guy was cut. We're learning this new guy right away. Right? Pete, which we find out later his name. And we go to this car lot. And the reason we're there, Sal, is because that monster truck finally comes into play because you're wondering, this guy's driving this monster truck. He's got a you know, a knife in his right boot. Now the monster truck is going to shine. And so what happens?

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, before the monster truck does what monster trucks do? I noticed again, going back to the truck itself. Ford F 250. I believe but definitely Ford. And it's a Ford dealership. So this is a Ford rolling over Ford's. If you look at the crowd, the crowds like is this supposed to happen? Are we supposed to root for this? This monster truck plows through the showroom side window, raised over with three station wagons and then bust out of the other side. total devastation of the showroom at this auto dealership. And again, the crowds like is this a gimmick? Like the crowd didn't know what to do?

Jason Connell:

They're cheering and they're also scared. Sal, I love how they're all station wagons and our showroom we have five beautiful station

Sal Rodriguez:

wagons, almost like Griswold types. They

Jason Connell:

put in the cars that can be run over by a monster truck. They don't have the Porsches and Mercedes or anything luxurious in there. Now we got to stay in budget. Well, in this scene, you can see a sign over adults like I guess it over shoulder. Los Angeles, Bakersfield. Oh, why did I miss that? It's in a distant was like oh my gosh, again we already know this but there's a sign

Sal Rodriguez:

well shout out Los Angeles my hometown love LA now this is where Red delivers that line to him. You got insurance Yeah, he

Jason Connell:

gives it back yeah got insurance right

Sal Rodriguez:

you're waiting for an answer and you're thinking the answer might be no

Jason Connell:

if you didn't already know it was is going to knock all these guys out of business that's why

Sal Rodriguez:

it's so public about it so out there he's he's a spectacle at this point.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. And it's him verse everybody and this is where he

Sal Rodriguez:

gives doc the warning here right about making Dalton leave you got to make Dalton leave town or he's going down that's where he tells doctor

Jason Connell:

right and so when don't know overseas that he assumes they're having old lover's quarrel. He sees her talking to him and he assumes like that relationship Get the ties are much stronger, which again, I think they had some sort of relationship long time ago. Yeah, it could

Sal Rodriguez:

have been more than I want to think he

Jason Connell:

was on his best behavior until he couldn't be. And so Dalton sees that as like, this whole town does. Something's off, right. So now we're at the barn at his home, but he's in the barn and don't and it's training. It's like,

Sal Rodriguez:

Jason, are you going to invoke rocky for here?

Jason Connell:

We should because it's very rocky for ask.

Sal Rodriguez:

This is like since the primitive training. Yeah, like handmade dummies.

Jason Connell:

He's hitting a slightly padded wooden dummy. He's got an old school rocky heavy bag. Garrett's there to talk reasoning to him. Like, let's get out of dodge, amigo. Let's go. And he like goes upstairs. But he goes by a crazy rope. And all sudden he's hitting the punching bag upstairs. Because sow he's getting focused. He's locked and loaded on Wesley. And Jimmy, Jimmy and Wesley.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, okay. I misinterpreted that. So I thought he was having like, trying to work out some emotion he was prepping.

Jason Connell:

I think he's prepping. And he's putting that it's not just about the girls. I think he was upset by that. But I think he knows the stakes are gonna keep getting raised. Okay, so he's training for the big fight. Tillman's place is going to go down next. And so he's part of that. So yeah, I think he's training for the big fight. Okay, that was my assessment. So of course, Garrett tries to calm him isn't successful. He leaves doc arrives. Dalton's upset. This doesn't go very well. But of course, there's not just one explosion in this movie. There's another and there's one more later. What happens this time?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, first of all, I just got to point out real quick. I'm noticing right now Doc is trying to almost create a parallel between Dalton and Wesley like, Don't you say? You're going to protect us from Wesley But who's gonna protect us from you? Yeah, these guys are not

Jason Connell:

like How dark is it? Well, she's probably seen it and Wesley. Maybe she knew him a long time ago. And then maybe he got darker. Okay, maybe she's worried about this power. I don't know. Okay. She's seen signs.

Sal Rodriguez:

She sees a progression. Yes. Signs of some sort of progression. She's afraid of what he can become. Yeah. Not necessarily. Who is now? Yeah, I'll give her that. Okay. So right in the middle of her lines, boom, big explosion. Huge. And it's a Emirates house. And it's house. Yeah. Very sad with him it in the house. Yes. And he had to be rescued. And his long johns.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. So Dalton runs off docks behind him. She is a doctor. And it's kind of funny, because when it gets him out, you think Is he alive? And he's like, yeah, if you just get off me, he's fine. And his red, long johns. And then we see in here, Jimmy on a dirt bike route, not an ATC two wheeler because he had something to do with the explosives, sets it off. And Dalton takes off after him sounds that leap.

Sal Rodriguez:

That's when you start you know, there are these moments where Dalton takes flight. And that's where you see. He was a dancer, wasn't he? Surely he took ballet, some of those kicks that he delivers. Yeah, I've never seen such graceful kicks. The last

Jason Connell:

time I saw a leap like that was Kevin Bacon and Footloose. Nice. Yeah, yeah, he did was great little jumps.

Sal Rodriguez:

I love that. It's like it's like you're an acrobat. Thomas had

Jason Connell:

Flashdance. But I also saw some good leaps in Flashdance. But he jumps tackles Jimmy. And of course, this leads to a great showdown. And I love the fact that it's kind of just man on man in the middle of the night. This isn't a big spectacle. Like it would have been a double deuce. Yes. That's how much hatred is between these two. You run into someone in the middle of nowhere. You might not just get into it. Usually those things escalate and you have other people around you. But they could have went the other way. But they don't even care. There's that much animosity and this is going to the death. You just know it.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well. Dalton made this happen because Jimmy was heading out he was hightailing it out of there, dolt and created this

Jason Connell:

fight. Maybe it was his chance to get him alone.

Sal Rodriguez:

I don't know. It was so fantastic. Seeing him fly through the air. So great. It was amazing.

Jason Connell:

So this fight goes on for a while. And it's kind of great because it's right by the pond. And then you can see Wesley's place just in the background is yes. And really good exchange here. I mean, don't get some great shots. Jimmy comes back and then Jimmy gets a little bit of an edge Sal.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. And he says some horrendous things to wear, like almost whispering in his ear, but he doesn't like in a chokehold. Yeah. And what did he say? He admits

Jason Connell:

something that people don't usually admit. Well, I used to ask guys like you in prison.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to hear that. You don't wanna hear a guy choking you saying that?

Jason Connell:

Yeah. Okay. Well, Dalton, he's that literally led by emotion I think he was which got him out of his usual state. Yeah, like we've talked about and fight sequences. Why would a cover let's talk Cobra Kai, when you're just you know, led by a motion, you're going to overlook things. And I think maybe that's why this fight even happened right now. But here he is he's getting calm. He's probably looking inward is Dalton would why Jimmy is starting to feel like he's going to be victorious. He's getting confident. Jimmy comes at a kick, Dalton catches his leg snap something. I mean, again, there's a lot of knee snapping, that doesn't really lead the worst like guys shake it off. But great move. Best him, puts him in this vulnerable position. And Sal, once again, something we heard about earlier in the movie comes into play. And it's kind of like Mortal Kombat move, if you will. Yes, the throat kill. And he goes there but only because I should say, Jimmy pulled a gun.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, Jimmy had a gun in his boot. pulls it out. Yeah. Cuz

Jason Connell:

he was not going to go for death. Jimmy pulled out the gun. Yeah, that's why it escalated to that because he was probably just going to take the victory. But he knocked the gun goes off. There is a shot fired. Yeah, it goes off. But he goes in and does this incredible move. Throw out has it in his hands. But just as Doc runs into frame,

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah. And she goes into Dr. Mode.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. Well, because Jimmy goes face down. Yeah. And she runs over to save him flips him overseas. What happens? Yeah. And she's venting at dawn who was just in this fight for your life sequence?

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, but what just happened reinforces what she was yelling about right before the

Jason Connell:

explosion. Of course, she thinks he's the worst thing that ever happened. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

So she just witnessed him kill him at what she just saw.

Jason Connell:

Well, she's not the only one that saw Yes.

Sal Rodriguez:

Mr. Looky loo himself, Mr. voyeur himself.

Jason Connell:

And that's great. Same when Dalton holds Jimmy just puts him out there. Fu was.

Sal Rodriguez:

That was great. I love that yelling. I got into a fight at a party when I was a teenager. And then I got kicked. I got kicked out of the party, not the other guy. And I was in the street yelling. Get out here. Get out here. Such a great feeling.

Jason Connell:

Well, Wesley is a little worried. Now. Here's Jimmy. He's number one. Anybody? And that guy took him out. So

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're number one guy goes. But he has to rely on those other guys who let them down who always get leaves?

Jason Connell:

Yeah. So he asked to think of a better plan. Not better, but more devious, and one that can put Dalton at a disadvantage. So now we're back at the double Deuce and Dalton drives the Mercedes. Is he driving into quit? Is he moving on? Right? Like, What's this doing out of storage? Yeah, I had no idea and goes inside. It's just on wisely. calls on the phone. Knowing Dalton's there. Like he's got spies everywhere. And says what?

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, he gives them a choice. Yeah, doc or Garrett. He's going to kill one of them. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to kill one of them. And then adult and I guess while he's processing this, Wesley just let me flip a coin puts the phone down. casually. Yeah. How much more casual? Yeah, yeah. Let me flip a coin. Like he's choosing what restaurant to go to flips the coin goes back and tells him what does he say? He doesn't even tell him anything. He just leaves them in suspense. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

I wish I could write how this turns out or something. But yeah, but he

Sal Rodriguez:

hangs up on Dalton. Dalton doesn't know what the hell who's being chosen or whatever. Yeah, we get thrown for a loop because in walks Garrett comes here

Jason Connell:

and he's beat up Sal. Oh, yeah. He fought a bunch of guys, three guys or something or four or whatever he said. And, you know, Dalton kind of set him down. You need to relax. I have to go find doc because she's the other side of that coin flip. Right. They're gonna kill doc.

Sal Rodriguez:

That's what we're thinking. Yeah, doesn't call

Jason Connell:

herself turns out. And all my days. I've learned a few things. A phone call is faster than driving across town. Although Jasper is small, so maybe. So you got to get to the receptionist to patch the phones through because it's just so he drives over there. And you think Is she here? It's great, though. It's more suspenseful. I get it. Like Is she here? Is she here? There she is X ray room just an extra spy looking at Dolan's X rays. Love this guy, but he's crazy. He's a killer. And so they have another heated exchange and she's not leaving with him which I thought was interesting that she winds up staying there. She's meanwhile cell still in trouble. I thought that was weird that she didn't come with but of course what are they going to do with her with her in tow? So she stays at the hospital? Maybe he feels she's safe there with all these people around? You may think that I don't know. Right. So then he goes back to double deuce. Why not? Right. Dalton's is bouncing around. He's got to Mercedes today. You know, zipping around. Somebody gets back goes inside. There's Garrett. He's exhausted. He's crashed out, but so not so fast.

Sal Rodriguez:

No, no, you we think he's crashed out. We think he just passed out on top of the bar on his left side. I said one beer. Yeah, yeah. Oh boy. No. Then he pulls them over. Oh, very sad to see

Jason Connell:

right there. Right knife a knife in the chest. And there's a note.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, there we go. There's the answer to the coin flip. It was tails. There you go. Yeah. Which means Garrett gets killed. Whereas for a few minutes earlier, we thought doc was gonna get killed.

Jason Connell:

Now he's like, Well, Doc safe at work, but he's just lost his friend. He doesn't even have time to mourn. This friend has mentor.

Sal Rodriguez:

And worse is him having to pull the knife out? Out of his best friend and mentor and the only family we see that Dalton has on this earth. Oh, horrible.

Jason Connell:

I guess he didn't have to pull the knife out. But if you're gonna use the knife in any way, you need it. But

Sal Rodriguez:

well, yeah, I guess he needed a knife. And that was the knife.

Jason Connell:

Maybe he didn't want it to be in his friend anymore. But very sad. We don't know how it happened. They already beat Garrett up. They were standing by waiting for Wesley's go ahead and they went in

Sal Rodriguez:

but later on we see whose knife that? Oh, yeah, yeah, we do know who did it. Yeah, their strategic Wesley is, you know, he plans the

Jason Connell:

Oh yeah, he stay up all night after Jimmy's death thinking. I'm in trouble here. So now Dalton takes the knife and heads to Wesley's and I gotta say this thing is amazing. Such a great stunt. I don't know where Sal we see this Mercedes, hightailing it straight to the property for the Westly compound, and there's all the henchmen and they've all got guns and and they're all like thinking there is right there is the dolphins is going to come in here. Super fast, guns blazing. And what happens?

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, well, we see the cars speeding ahead breaking through the property. They're all shooting. All the henchmen are all shooting everything from shotguns to pistols to rifles, I think. Yeah. The car just comes right through. Oh, and then it does a little Dukes of Hazzard style. Yeah. hits a little fence. Yeah, yeah. And then lands in flames and explodes. Yeah, no. More explosions. Loving the explosions. They run over to the car open up the door. You have to expect to see Dalton there. But no, no. Instead, you look down at the gas pedal and that very knife was pushed down into the gas pedal. Effectively nailing the gas pedal down. I love that. I love that. That's how you make the car go without you in

Jason Connell:

amazing. I also love how it just drove straight,

Sal Rodriguez:

which was first Roadhouse or Rambo. Rambo was before Roadhouse. Okay, this is Dalton going Rambo here are Commando. Also before I'm loving it. I love revenge on evil people.

Jason Connell:

The body count starts to climb because Jimmy was a fight to the death he had been killed Jimmy YEAH, the body count now starts to escalate. From this point on, it reminds me of that scene in Commando, or that gets into the hundreds when he goes in to save the girl who I think was Elisa Mallanna if I'm not mistaken, his daughter, radon, John was in that movie, but he goes in there and in a one man show in the fatigues and, and he takes out a village. This is a mini version of that.

Sal Rodriguez:

Let's not forget the camouflage. It was incredible.

Jason Connell:

Well, this is all of that. But I love Mercedes. That's why he had the Mercedes just straight and that thing didn't deviate. Some cars be like need an ally maybe like Don just took off.

Sal Rodriguez:

He's in the pond.

Jason Connell:

So they open the door they pull the knife and you notice when he pulled the knife out had a quarter in the handle? That's really interesting.

Sal Rodriguez:

What I did pay attention to I didn't notice the quarter. I noticed the guy who grabbed it then put it right in his shot man was who? I don't know that guy's name. He looks very familiar though.

Jason Connell:

He was the monster truck driver. Okay,

Sal Rodriguez:

okay. Well, I was gonna say he looks familiar from like other movies. I think I've seen him.

Jason Connell:

I know he's that guy. He's the one who goes to the monster truck is always his car. And he had the right boot. Same guy. He's got this knife so he killed Garrett. And you know who oversaw this was Dawn he's like, okay, that guy. Well, slowly but surely. Much like movies. We've seen Rambo Commando. Guy start to go. Connor duck. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

we don't even see this.

Jason Connell:

No, not even just knockouts. They've got guns. Once you have guns, all bets are off. Oh Connors gone. That bouncers gone. Then he stabs the monster truck driver. Yeah. And he stabs me says tails again. And then throws the knife into Wesley's nephew, the ex bartender who was skimming up on the OH YEAH. second floor. Great seeing so Dalton's going next level here. He did some other type of training along. Yeah, this

Sal Rodriguez:

is where he started thing. Is he like a former Greenbrae or something? What are they telling us here?

Jason Connell:

Yeah, exactly. So this leaves just the big guy. I mean, the heavyset guy that he's more like a trucker, comedic trucker. He's got the cat hat on. He's kind of in this gang, probably because he was stuck in it in a maze loosely related to wisely. I never feel like he could do any real harm.

Sal Rodriguez:

But he's there. Yeah. Sort of just a product of his environment, if you will. And

Jason Connell:

they did a good job on dismissing him the way they did but sad. Go ahead and tell us what happens.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I guess we learned that he has a fear of polar bears or other animals in general anything. Yeah, he sees a giant stuffed polar bear. And he starts freaking out. The polar bear starts coming towards him and then gets pushed onto him. We're assuming pushed onto him by Doulton? Yeah, so this guy is laying underneath this stuffed polar bear and you got to figure okay, even though it's not full of meat, this thing got away at least couple 100 pounds, a few 100 pounds three 400 pounds at least laying on top of that pansy

Jason Connell:

man knocks him out but that was a great choice by doll we don't need to kill this guy. He's kind of a buffoon. Let's just knock this over on him. And that leaves Wesley that's all that's left here. And it's a classic showdown style. Classic. It's good.

Sal Rodriguez:

And you're ready by this point? Yeah. As audience Oh, you are ready for this?

Jason Connell:

So Wesley does shoot Dalton he takes a shot so you now have seen him stabbed twice punched a million times and now shot Yeah. And then he pulls out these vintage Spears like things on the wall game room he's this guy's got stuff from Africa Sure

Sal Rodriguez:

sure. He's been all over the world as a Trophy Hunter probably collected the spirits of local tribe

Jason Connell:

yeah guy like this was in the movie hostel. He paid to be part of hostel like that's what wrestling is. So he throws one Spears out so it's a pretty cool shot. Yeah collides for a while and goes yeah, that was almost like wow, that was a good trajectory like and there wasn't much CG or any in this movie everything look like real effects. So

Sal Rodriguez:

I was wondering if it might have been on a wire it could have been it could have been but I didn't see it though. But let's go to the wire. Yeah, so

Jason Connell:

they're in this fight and I mean don't can beat him but don't is now shot. He's also fought a lot of guys to get here. He's emotionally wrecked from losing Garrett, and everything else. And you know he's taken a hit. I mean, once is no chump, but then eventually, wisely gets bested by dull. Sure. Inevitable. And Dalton shows mercy. Oh, yes. He had him ready to go. Right he had that you have is like I've already won. You're not pulling a gun last second. So I'm just gonna walk away. But that's not how it goes out.

Sal Rodriguez:

It's that moment because although Dalton has killed Yeah, he's not a killer. In this moment. He's like, do I have to kill? Like, I don't have to kill. So I won't kill. But yeah, not with a guy like Wesley though.

Jason Connell:

No, so Wesley, of course, the gun that was discarded because he had a gun it he knocked it loose. Don't knock on those. And once he realizes, Oh, he's not gonna take me out. He

Sal Rodriguez:

can kind of see he's distracted. Right? Yeah, they get distracted by doc.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, exactly. And then he starts looking like, yeah, gun over there. So he grabs the gun. And this is a scene right out of so many movies, right? Die Hard, Fatal Attraction, where the person you know, the hero is kind of like, let that person just like, Oh, we're okay now. And then that person grabs a gun. Right? And then other people or person blows away this killer. And that's exactly what happens here. I think it's four shots and all.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, I think it was the fourth shot that finally put them down on the coffee table.

Jason Connell:

I mean, these are great shots. slugs are going off and he's taking real shots. And these guys, he

Sal Rodriguez:

took the first three. He took the first three. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

yeah. And so it goes through the coffee table completely dead this time. It's Emmitt and red. And Pete until Yeah, it's the for

Sal Rodriguez:

folk, the local business owners. Absolutely. It was great. It was fantastic. I'm glad I'm glad it was them. Because they have a history that goes far beyond Dalton's recent

Jason Connell:

fight. He's been robbing them for years, man. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

they go way back. This guy has been a thorn in your side for a generation.

Jason Connell:

In fact, as Tillman who fires the fourth shot comes up to do so. This is our town and don't you forget it. Pay back man pay back.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. And then red gathers up the guns. You could tell me when this was all said and done. They had a little plan. Yeah, because right away red He takes the guns when he goes to take lights out. Yeah, the police

Jason Connell:

are there in an instant. Yeah. And then there's the guy that pulled him in fell on. And I think they called it tinker. And I think I looked up online. Well, the police show up and they're asking everybody what happened. And I love this hour. That was so great. This line, they all just basically say anything is anything. And that just goes down the line all the way to tinker, the heavyset guy, the trucker. And he's like, What do you say?

Sal Rodriguez:

A polar bear fell on me. Exactly. That was so great. And then the other guys start cracking up they all

Jason Connell:

laugh and the cops you can tell this is the type of town was like, Well, no one saw anything and Wesley had to come in. It was like everyone just showed up here and

Sal Rodriguez:

this happened. So yeah, this is a dingdong. The Witch is Dead moment. They're

Jason Connell:

all gonna get off and move on. life's gonna be better and Jasper now I mean, a jasper we never knew. So Oh, Jasper will never know. So now we see the double Deuce and Cody sayings and there's no issues of any type. Everything's looking good in the world. And then we come back to the pond, the famous pond. I like to reference quite a bit. Sound what do we see?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, is this a Swayze? Oh, it's

Jason Connell:

Swayze

Sal Rodriguez:

a rather Dalton and Doc a skinny doll at this point in time. He still does it. Doulton and Doc skinny dipping skinny

Jason Connell:

dipping to end the fantastic. You know, it's like all is right in the world. He's found true love. He has lost his mentor. But you know what, if we check back in on Dalton, like years down the road?

Sal Rodriguez:

I bet he's still in Jasper. Yeah, lay down some roots. I think Mayor? Yeah, I think hell after all this, were it not for him. Wesley would still be running the town. So believe me at the very least, Doulton deserves a plaque in the local park at the very least I

Jason Connell:

totally agree. So that's it. That's Roadhouse. We did it be by beat scene by scene breakdown. I took a couple hours of movies a couple of hours, so that happens or just close to it. I still have a couple of trivia things to mention, because I gave one away early. Let me just bang these out real fast. Sure. Yeah. So a net binning was originally cast as Doc. Oh, she was replaced by Kelly Lynch, who was under contract to United artist. Lynch claims that bidding was fired due to a lack of chemistry with Patrick Swayze.

Sal Rodriguez:

Or you go to chemistry

Jason Connell:

Hall if they don't have it. They don't have

Sal Rodriguez:

it. No and you move on. It goes back to the old Eric Stoltz and Back to the Future. Eric Stoltz is fantastic. Fantastic. But in that role, and maybe not and then Michael J. Fox comes in and saves the day. No different. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with an aesthetic. She's fantastic. But yeah, you need that chemistry.

Jason Connell:

Absolutely. Director rowdy Harrington said that the movies Umer is somewhat intentional as he wanted the fights to resemble a keystone cops melee.

Sal Rodriguez:

I was thinking WWE mainly because I saw Terry Funk there and I'm I'm thinking that in my head, but yeah, just utter mayhem. Some of these barroom brawls utter may have meant so so Fanta so much to see you have to watch it over and over. Yeah, see other leaders even begin

Jason Connell:

to do it justice. The movie is a spectacle. Watch it. Those scenes are just like, wait, what? Yeah, well done. And he succeeded. There's a lot of humor in this movie. It works very well. Yeah, I applaud his efforts and everyone who fought at the double deuce. According to Sam Elliott, all of the actors did their own stunts. Well, they were all trained by Benny the jet are quitters. Oh, wow. I heard this name before.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, yeah, he used to have Benny's jet centers in this area of a chain of like martial arts gyms around here when I was very young. I was supposed to join but never did. But I definitely know the name, okay.

Jason Connell:

And he's a holder of nine black belts in nine different disciplines. The jet also believes so much in sways his ability that he suggested Swayze become a competitive kickboxer.

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm telling you, man, look, I'm so much fighting over the years. I'm a big fan of Mixed Martial Arts. And that made me then a fan of karate made me a fan of boxing made me a fan of all the martial arts. I'm telling you when I saw Patrick Swayze his moves. I'm like, man, he moves in a fantastic way. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

Very graceful as you said. Now due to a knee injury he sustained he being Patrick Swayze sustained during filming, he had to turn down the role of Gabriel cash and Tango and Cash. How about that holy cow as well as Mike Harrigan and Predator two, he chose to make ghost as his follow up instead, as it was less physically strenuous.

Sal Rodriguez:

Wait, so then Harrigan predator to went to Danny Glover. Exactly. Wow, interesting choice. Just you wouldn't have those guys at the same audition but yet here we are.

Jason Connell:

Here we are crazy. Wow. So that's all I got so

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I'll tell you what I got Jason. I want this soundtrack. I'm telling you, God, I was rocking out to the soundtrack. I was like, I want this soundtrack as the backdrop to my next road trip. Yeah, this is such fantastic music.

Jason Connell:

It's amazing. It really is. It's a lot of Jeff Healey band, I highly recommend you check him out now.

Sal Rodriguez:

I think they're great. I love that sound. That blue sound. A little bit of that when you call. I don't know what the genre is country rock. A little bit of Creedence Clearwater Revival, a little bit of that. I'm a big fan of that style.

Jason Connell:

Very good. highly enjoyable. I highly recommend people check this film out. I hope that our listeners and viewers enjoyed our deep deep dive into Roadhouse and completion. So great of season one of Let's Talk movies.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, Jason, you did this. You did? All the 80s Right. Yep. 10 movies 10 Movies from the 80s. And just to be clear, you didn't do them in sequence like no, no. Okay. Okay, so you complete it. Now you completed it with 1989 And I'll tell you put Roadhouse back on my radar having seen it when I was young and then you know, it goes back into your the back your mind again. Yeah, but yeah, I'm a big fan again. Now. I did enjoy this revisiting of Roadhouse. It will be very interesting to see what the reboot has to offer what Jake Gyllenhaal has to offer. I'm definitely going to see that when that comes out. So yeah, this was a wonderful ride.

Jason Connell:

Now it was my pleasure having you on you are here for five out of the 10. And I'm excited to see what fun special episodes lie ahead for let's talk movies.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, I'm interested myself. Again, as a fan of the show. You're a fan of the show, not just a participant as a fan of the show. I'm just curious to see what you have in store for let's talk movies.

Jason Connell:

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Sal Rodriguez:

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Jason Connell:

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Sal Rodriguez:

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