Awakening Together, Relaxing into Happiness with William Cooper, Master of Theology, Licensed Professional Counselor
Experience Awakening....Relaxing into your Being and, therefore, Happiness. William earned a 4 year on campus Master of Theology from Harding Theological Seminary. He was a Unity board president and, later, a Oneness trainer. In 1994 he went into private practice as a Licensed Psychotherapist. He has been to India 14 times averaging 3 months per visit to explore awakening with gurus and awakened beings. Also, Bhutan, Nepal, Thailand, Brazil, etc. In this series, William attempts to encapsulate and convey what he feels to be most important in his 50 plus years of direct experience on the path of Awakening. This series explores the hows of awakening and encourages the direct experiencing of the flow of your Being, (love, peace, happiness, fulfillment and joy). A practical blending of East and West. Meditation, yoga and Energy meet psychotherapy and awakened Beings...and beyond All. For more info and writings on the subject, www.williamecooper.wordpress.com
Awakening Together, Relaxing into Happiness with William Cooper, Master of Theology, Licensed Professional Counselor
116 Center, Connect, Awaken and Shine - Q & A
In this live Q & A we discussed resting in our ever present radiance without the need to jump out of our center. We often can become twisted and unhappy when we are lost in tasks beyond our skill levels. What does "Being in the Now" really mean? In the "Now" with an active mind? Being completely open and flowing with all emotions. What is the relation of connection to Peace and Well Being. What are we to do in life? Losing the fear of panic attacks. Etc.
Each podcast in this series on awakening stand on their own. However they also build on each other so are are most powerful if listened to in sequence from the first one and on.
Though I am a psychotherapist and these podcasts are offered to be spiritually helpful, they are not psychotherapy. If psychotherapy is ever needed, please reach out to a psychotherapist.
These podcasts are here to support your personal path of awakening whatever that might be. I feel they are most powerful when listened to in sequence from podcast one forward because each is built on the last. Though they, also, all stand on their own. If anything does not resonate, please disregard it and follow your heart. All my podcasts and website are free. Enjoy!
Though I am a psychotherapist, and these podcasts are offered to be spiritually helpful, they are not psychotherapy. If psychotherapy is ever needed, please reach out to a psychotherapist.
www.williamecooper.wordpress.com for more support. You may, especially, enjoy the short contemplations and the resource page which gives you some supportive material.
Welcome everybody My name is william cooper And this is the live session of our podcast Awakening together relaxing into happiness Thank you so much for joining me today I see a number of my friends. Hello. Hello, jennifer. Hello, kate If you have a question type it in and if not, or you just want to listen in for a while, that's great, too I have 115 previous podcasts And they're all centered around What i've found helpful in my path of awakening and I Attempt to lay it out step by step so that the listener Can listen to any podcast they stand on their own, but if you start with number one and work your way forward I'm hoping that it will shed light on things And processes that might be helpful to you and if they're not you just disregard the ones that aren't bottom line life Can be tough And a lot of us are hurting bruised up At your core though. I can assure you That you are a bright radiant light You are pure love you are pure joy Pure peace Nothing you have to do. That's who you are that's why In buddhism one of the things that they say one of the jewels is Take refuge in your buddha nature why there because That's just buddhist speak for your innate self It's beautiful rest there And what do I mean by that? well Have you noticed that if you don't know how to do something in this world, you might get stressed like How do I Approach my boss for a raise. How do I say? What I want to say just right or how do I talk to my partner? And do it in a way that they can hear me And do it in a clear way How can I? Do a hundred different things talk to my neighbor, how can I carry out a task? How can I? Get the best value for my money when I buy a house or when I Get a hotel room or there's so many things in life. It's infinite And have you noticed that if you don't know how to do it perfectly? You might get a little stressed Like I hope i'm doing this, right? I don't know how to do it And the deeper you go into this creation and try to come up with a solution the more difficult and twisted around It can become And the more stressed and tense you can become a nice awakening secret is You don't have to do all that We think we do and yes eventually yes, we have to deal with life, of course But in awakening It's good enough to just rest in yourself And know that the universe is going to help you. It might not help you specifically Know how to say certain things in buddhism that might be they learn how to do specific things and they might say they They learn skillful means or right action These are things you can learn Maybe you don't learn them today, but you can learn them eventually But regardless of whether you learn them or not. None of them are you They're just skill levels of things that you can do out in the world But they don't have anything to do with you So you can rest in you And that is peace joy love And unless you Feel compelled to get twisted around and jump into creation You can just rest there find that place in you And rest there You don't have to do anything. Just stay there. Give yourself the luxury of an inner vacation And just rest inside yourself You can contact everything from your inner self you can touch everything but you don't have to Touch it perfectly. You don't have to know what to do perfectly Keep your center in yourself Most of you are familiar with the dao de ching and lao tzu noted to the mind that is still the whole universe surrenders to the mind that is still the whole universe surrenders When you rest in yourself Sometimes we overlook That where we're resting is the oneness. It is the universe. This is ourselves. It's one in the same The universe is us We all diffract the oneness into many different personalities and through different bodies and nervous systems But there's only one goodness Oneness And that's what you're resting in And that goodness understands how to orchestrate the universe To take you where you need to go to take care of you That's why you can read any great master from jesus to buddha to anybody And they always say just relax. It's okay The universe has Got you You are the universe Better to say the universe is you That eliminates any personality aspects of it Oh, thank you, katherine katherine Made a very generous donation It's only as you feel i'm this is not a fun drive or anything. We're just talking I don't want anybody to feel any kind of pressure another good way to give just tell a friend about these podcasts They're very awakening and I love to listen to them because in these podcasts We don't just make statements. We look at how to accomplish these statements how to accomplish these Awakening how to accomplish awakening Okay But where I was going To the mind that is still the whole universe surrenders You've got the power of the universe to work out Those things that you think that you have to know how to do perfectly so they will work out but no There are two ways to approach things one is through duality your personality Your willpower like you've got to make everything Work, you've got to make everything in the universe happen You've got to make it all work out. Well, and if you don't do everything perfectly The whole thing's going to cave in really I do know what you mean. I'm, you know, it's kind of a odd thing. You don't want to do nothing But on the other hand don't discount the power that's behind you the power that's emanating through you And as you rest in your buddha nature as you rest, which is another word for your innate peace Just who you are That which is looking through your eyes As you rest there from that place If you want to do something, how about do what the other gurus? do Bless it From your peace from your stillness bless your life Let the universe bless and work it out for you Bless distress that's in your life see it opening up and Healing see it as you would like it as that as if that has already happened As if the outcome that you desire has already happened see it that way Feel it that way You are the universe And it's guiding and healing your life Catherine asks a question Or makes a statement. Let's see To get to joy love and bliss. We have to go through the door of fear pain and insecurity That is my experience just now Yes, catherine That's all of our experience I'll tell you why Let's just look at this for a while because we're all going through this and It can be so overwhelming It can be hard See at our core we are peace love and joy We're bliss That's who we are but If we're caught up in A movie for instance We forget who we are for a moment and we start to identify with the characters in the movie or the tv show Well life is like this We forget who we are There's nothing we have to do to become peace love and joy. We are that So how do we get away from that? How come we don't always feel that? There's a number of reasons but two main ones One we do what we just talked about we get into the middle of a situation In our day-to-day life now And we get so deep into it and we don't know how to respond and we don't know the perfect way And we get so caught up That we become so distracted in the quote unquote effort or process that we We forget ourselves we forget who we are we forget that everything at our core is okay Because we're so focused on what's we perceive is not okay that I have to heal that's one thing that distracts us and One of the reasons that happens One of the reasons we don't trust ourselves and stay in our core Is because we have unresolved fear hurt or anger these are Emotional states that come about when we separate from ourselves when we separate from ourselves We feel separation anxiety or fear existential angst perhaps Or we feel hurt we feel abandoned We're cut off or we feel angry we're cut off we're frustrated why isn't this working how come life is so horrible This is the symptoms of us Leaving our inner nature So one way we leave our inner nature is that we get involved in things So completely outside of ourselves today trying to solve problems today not trusting that the power of the universe Is behind us Like Lao Tzu said and that I just quoted To the mind that is still the whole universe surrenders And the universe is powerful It surrenders to us to help us The second way that we can become cut off from ourselves Are decisions we made or experiences we've had in the past We construct out of pure consciousness we construct thoughts As we've talked about in previous podcasts. We know we're not our thoughts because if they disappeared for a moment, we'd still be here We know we're not our emotions because if they disappeared for a few moments, uh, we'd still be here You look at a sunset you're in awe. No thoughts. You're just wow just awe But you're still here All of your emotions disappear and there's only the bliss of yourself that we call awe And you're still here So we know we're not our thoughts and our emotions and that's just a quick Thumbnail over it But we construct we out of pure consciousness we construct objects inside of us called emotions and thought forms and they hold pain and trouble and Angst this happened. It wasn't right and I haven't resolved it. So i'll store it inside of my body I'll resolve it later. We're we're kind of like squirrels and we store up these little nuts Well, they surface we repress them so that we can carry on through life, but they surface they pop up and They sprout and we feel them And until we deconstruct them they keep emanating these problems the separation and they capture our attention They cloud us up So life is all about just learning about who we are learning how to let go not just Letting go is too shallow of a term about these old constructions. You have to actually deconstruct them. Let them breathe in goodness And well-being so that they can relax and when they relax they release they dissipate and they dissolve Just like a muscle does in a good massage And we've talked about that in the past and I say that just in case this is new for anybody Go back to the past podcasts And it's all explained very Thoroughly, I think So all of these things Emanate old thought thomas jefferson said All thoughts are are hallucinations They're just we take pure consciousness. We form a thought they're helpful vehicles But they're only hallucinations to approximate reality The problem is we form a personality made of these hallucination Thoughts and emotions are also hallucinations. That's what personalities are made of and we think that's who we are So, you know We're already separated from ourself that generates hurt fear and anger So yes, we have to go through those they have to Open and when they open they emanate The energy that they've been holding while they've been repressed And that's what happens in meditation a meditation. We have to sit still so that the silt can Dissolve and clear and we can see who we are and who what life is clearly But when we sit still we can't repress things and all these old constructions come up to dissolve to release to relax And we wouldn't have repressed them if they felt great We only repress them because they feel horrible and that's the energy that they release is horrible energy So when you sit still and meditate, it's generally often. It's a horrible experience And to get away from these horrible feelings Our mind will spin and think to distract us. We'll get involved It's like watching tv when you're stressed out you want to jump into another image So you don't have to think about your messed up life Now remember at heart you're fine, you're not your life you're not your problems You're not your thoughts and you're not your emotions. You're fine the problem is we've got such a cacophony such a all these uh pent-up energy screaming at us That we're so distracted We lose track of who we are And we start thinking we are our personality. We are our problems we you know, we're not that's Called delusion, I and I mean that in the best way. It's not pejorative. It's just we're wrong It makes sense to us at the time because I remember when I first came across all this stuff. It's like what? I had no idea and it took me years and years and decades to Kind of take it in So continuing with what Catherine was saying However, if I don't separate and feel everything then I notice pieces there So i'm learning not to resist anything and this can be powerful, too Oh, yes, Catherine This is so good because When you don't resist and let everything just kind of Come up and run its course. It's very hard to do because it's overwhelming can be on our Personality on our nervous system. We're not used to handling so much power The power of ourselves Partially has been captured in these pent-up repressed emotions. So as bad as they feel When they unwind and release they release an aura of goodness So you don't want to get rid of them. That's the that energy is Your energy it's the energy coming through you. It's just been twisted into weird shapes it's like Freezing water into the shape of a knife. It could hurt somebody but when it melts it's life-giving water Our emotions we twist them our thoughts we twist them into a shape that can hurt somebody namely us but when they melt They're life-giving And you emanate bliss and love and well-being So this process that you're doing is not resisting and feeling Everything helps all of this all these old constructions release relax and unwind They emanate their energy It's also important to let that part of you that's emanating all of this Quote unquote destructive energy. I mean really by that. I mean it hurts To look around and update its files and notice wow, everything's okay now Because I made these constructions back in a time when things were not okay Everything is okay now So, let me breathe that in Let me receive that Receiving is so important. I'm learning to receive better You can be awake But in your personality to the degree that you can receive The truth which is peace love and well-being that's the truth and trust The universe Surrenders for your well-being To the degree you can receive that and just usually you can do that only in baby steps, but to the degree you can receive is the radiance of your Awakening through your body. You can be awake and have a clogged up body You can be awake with a radiant body The second is an auspicious awakening when you're awake with a radiant body When you're awake with a clogged up nutty body, that's inauspicious And you see some gurus halfway They have they are emanating so much light and love and then they go off the deep end and do crazy things They're middle auspicious and inauspicious they still haven't released some things You're doing that and Catherine I just want to say good job because it's not easy to feel everything and i'm not Even saying you do that all the time every moment. I'm not saying that maybe you do but it's hard And you have to give yourself a rest. Sometimes it is good to flip on the tv or do something When you're just worn out you need a break Sometimes you really just do need a break And as we talked in um podcast 27 through 30 on ptsd peter levine noticed for Healing and I bring up ptsd because those are things that are stuck in our bodies like a muscle cramp And i'm pretty convinced that most of us have a lot of ptsd little or big But these little things that won't release I Think it's very helpful to know how to work with ptsd and he says there's just some basic steps first Go slowly. Don't get overwhelmed because then you'll over you'll lock up And you'll be exhausted just Do baby steps do something a little every day if you can but don't overdo it Um, the second is to Be in touch with who you are be first of all be in touch with your pain who you're not Your personality that's hurting so much that stuck part. I'm hurting how i'm hurting Own it, but then let it update its files. Let it touch something good if you understand your Buddha nature, let's say or your innate nature whatever labels you want to call it if you know that Breathe that in let the hurting part breathe that in if that's still not quite clear Touch something in nature touch a tree and let your hurting part receive that Remember as it receives just a drop or lots of drops whatever is comfortable Let it receive it. You will notice it will open up to the degree. It receives it will relax to the degree it relaxes It will release to the degree it releases It doesn't exist. There's not anymore. It's like a like a tension when it's received relaxation And it's fully received it and it's fully relaxed it's gone. There's no more tension to work with Because all these things are hallucinations they don't You know, they do exist but they're temporary So They can dissolve that you're not stuck with any of this You're not stuck with any of your past actions any of your past thoughts and your past emotions They're just snarls and knots when they relax and release and let go They're gone. So let them go let them Dissolve when they are dissolved Let them be gone Because that's another thing sometimes we get in a habit of holding on to things that we don't that they've already dissolved so Upgrade your Your habits your your way of being in life like that's not you anymore. Let it go Kate says Hi, kate Hi, katherine Oh and hi yvonne from way back Uh, kate says your suggestion regarding ptsd has been so helpful Touching the tree works for me Yes, kate. Thank you on behalf of everybody. These are simple things, but they work profoundly They can change your life this that one simple thing Everything I put in these podcasts Each one can change your life How do I know because i'm a person just like you and i'm flopping around out here Just like you and i've been through a lot of pain and trouble Just like you and i've tried a lot of things. I've been to india 14 times. I'm a psychotherapist I have been through So many things and talked to so many masters and so many awakened I've sorted through some of this stuff Just like you would Had you had the opportunities I have had? So I just pass it on to you Many of you have had these opportunities. So that's good katherine says Everybody talks about living in the present and releasing the past and future How easy is this given our non-stop brain activity is what katherine's asking? You know This is such a good question because first of all We can't be in any place but the present whether it feels like we're there or not Where else are we? The only question is is what's happening in the present which we can't be anywhere else but in the present What's happening while we're in the present? And you put your finger on it katherine What's happening is these old constructions that we have repressed that are working non-stop old thoughts old emotions old habits Ticking away under the surface where we feel anxious or we feel Hurt or we feel angry and then because we feel all these things under the surface Sometimes they're not even under the surface But because we feel them we start to project out into the future and we start hallucinating what could happen I mean thinking thinking and hallucinating For anybody who just arrived or the same thing we Make thoughts. Let's say call it that about what the The future holds for us and then we get afraid we frighten ourselves and we think oh We better do this or we better not do that or all of this is motivated because we do not feel safe We don't feel safe. We don't feel happy. We don't feel fulfilled Why? Especially if our nature is safety. It is fulfillment. It is love It's all the things we're looking for if that's Who we are and we don't have to do anything to be that Why are we thinking we're not that? Because we're captured by all of these hallucinations just like we get captured in a movie which is a hallucination We get captured in tv shows, which is a hallucination we get captured in our mind when we try to escape these Constructions of hurt fear and anger these emotions that we have previously repressed We start hallucinating to get away to create a tv show Picture i'll do this and then i'll do that and because I do this and that and I do it just right i'll be safe See i've now hallucinated a whole Show with me as the star and me becoming safe. Why do I have to do that? Because I don't feel safe. Why? because I never Deconstructed this old hallucination that i'm not safe that I made 30 years ago 10 years ago 15 years ago, and I repressed it because it was so scary When you sit still in meditation these things come up and then you let them deconstruct painful But very productive and healing and then you feel better and better and better and then at some point meditation is a joy There is a middle ground where half feels bad and half feels good But in the beginning mostly for most people it feels horrible And their minds just race it's very difficult because all of this pent-up junk is unwinding That's why So we are always in the present The only issue is When how long will it take for the dust to settle? So that we can be in the present without distracting ourselves with our hurt fear and angers And then all of our projections about the future How long will it take until all the dust can settle and we can just feel who we are the joy Peace well-being and love right now that we are even when we're not feeling it Even when we're covered up and distracted by hurt fear and anger. We are still at heart peace love and joy, we just can't feel it because We're engulfed in our Unresolved issues And nobody can there are no shortcuts. I've tried i've tried I've you know, you hear gurus. I'll i'll take your suffering No, they can't do that They can help you They can show you what it's like not to suffer But you have to stop Hurting yourself you have to do that. They can't do that for you If I tighten my fist like this The only one that can open it is me That's what these podcasts are about But we do it gently baby step by baby step by baby step It's like if you have a room at your house that you haven't cleaned for 20 years and you throw all your junk in that room It's scary you don't want to go in that room But if you ever want a light and airy beautiful room You got to start cleaning it sometime But if you do it all at once you'll be overwhelmed You'll be whipped So open the door would be my suggestion and take out one pair of socks and close the door And start washing those socks and take a break next day open the door and take one more thing out of that room And just keep doing that consistently You'll get to a clean room That's what's happening inside It doesn't it's not like we're achieving peace love and well-being. We are that already all we're doing is Cleaning the obstructions away. It's like we're wiping A foggy glass until We can see out of it our glasses Until we can see If our glasses are really caked up We've got a lot of wiping to do Maybe they've got paint on them and different stuff. So we need to very carefully work with them until we can see all right again It's not that we can't see we already can't see it's just our glasses are fogged up So an interim step like we started this podcast out with is Be in touch with your inner nature your buddha nature is what the buddhists call it. I'll just call it your you your being Which is made of peace and love be in touch with that even before you clean off your glasses because that's a big chore just Be in touch with yourself first And relieve yourself temporarily of the responsibility of cleaning off your glasses just Enjoy who you are for a moment. Just give yourself a break And then don't leave that center if you can easier said than done because we habitually leave ourselves But maybe a little bit stay with who you are And then just little bit by little bit every day clean those glasses Okay, so Uh, katherine says is that what you mean by being in the world, but not of it? Yes Yes Exactly katherine good observation. I've often I'm, just quoting jesus Which means stay in your buddha nature That's not in the world. It's beyond the world. It's from which the world flows Yes, it's all one in the end, but for discussion we make these distinctions But stay in your buddha nature. That's being not of the world But from your buddha nature Walk through the world, but don't get all crazy about it Do what you can learn a little bit at a time do your best, but let it go Now why wouldn't you let it go if I haven't done my past work my old constructions That i've repressed will be very sticky and they will erupt When I walk through the world i'll feel panicky i'll feel that dog looked at me funny I'll feel that person they said that on purpose to to aggravate me and now i'm really getting wound up. I'm like so reactive Because of my past construction, so it is hard to be in the world, but not of it if you don't do your work But yes That's what I mean To the degree you can do that do that to the degree You can't keep doing your work and I commend you katherine because I know you're working hard. I know All of you are but katherine. I definitely know you are from your questions both today and in the past So good job. It's hard. I know it's very hard, but baby step forward. Don't it's you'll get there Now here's another thing everybody gets there quote unquote get there everybody gets there and What I know i'm not asking you to believe this but what I know Is even when you leave this life you take yourself with you and so to the degree Of all the work you've done in this life where you are when you leave this world That's where you pick up when you began in your next lifetime Your next adventure I won't even call it a lifetime because I don't even want to put that on that it might conjure up this or that But wherever you go you take yourself with you just makes sense, right intuitively it feels about right You take yourself. So all of your good work now goes with you And so it's easier it gets progressively easier as you do your work ivan says I realized this morning that I have let go of the fear Of having a panic attack. Wow, ivan that is amazingly great Congratulations Yeah, because usually there are two fears. There's the panic attack and then there's the fear of the panic attack And in a sense if you think about it and panic attacks can be intense But all of us Are having either big or small panic attacks depression attacks anxiety attacks Hurt attacks abandonment attacks And that's our unresolved stuff Panic attacks is just also unresolved things I don't feel safe. Why? I don't even have to know why I just have separated from myself, obviously because myself Is safe But what you've done Ivan is you've taken a big step forward Because on some level you have found yourself you have found safety enough, which is you enough safety To have let go and now You just can have a panic attack without having a fear of having a panic attack It's kind of like katherine was saying earlier about just Letting herself feel whatever comes up and i'm sure she has very difficult feelings at times I have had very difficult feelings at times Everybody here And i'm just doing that to honor everybody here. I know life is tough And I know whether you type something in or not You've had some difficult times But it helps all of us ivan and katherine When you comment so that all of us listening in Can see wow Okay Okay Okay There is a way into wholeness Into experiencing wholeness in my body now There is a way because they're doing it and they're so courageous It takes courage Because it can be painful Doing spiritual work And there's nothing more exhilarating either Ivan I imagine Something opened up in you On an even a deeper level when you noticed that you let go of the fear of having a panic attack There's nothing better than that. That's your radiance shining through Nancy Gives a thumbs up to ivan and katherine and katherine says absolutely we are human Yes I Don't i'll give you my perspective. I'm not again asking anybody to take it for more than Just that it's my perspective I don't know what else we're doing here on this earth other than Clearing out this stuff I don't know what else I I told a long time ago a story that In the mid 80s I I was just getting out of a very conservative religious background and I had started going to a unity church and I was Terrified with the thought of psychics and clairvoyance and all that because where I came from that was all from the devil Satan And I didn't want to go to hell, of course back then Lots changed No such thing but I went and saw a lot of psychics to see if they would tell me similar things and one psychic told me this I always remember She told me about I at the time I was a partner in a financial planning firm I was the board president of a unity church and I was doing a lot of stuff and I had been very successful And she said You've got good willpower I said, oh, thanks But the way she said it sounded a little funny like I don't know sounded like it was pretty good, but maybe it wasn't so good so I said the way you said that sounds like you Like there's some is there anything wrong with that She goes no, no. No, it's wonderful. You get a lot accomplished Then she said it won't amount to anything But you get a lot accomplished And you know what she was right the only thing that's amounted to anything in my life Is This being Who I am and being with others who they are sharing that with each other What else? Really I mean other stuff is good, but Anyway So my point is what else are we doing in this life but that But deepening Why can't we sit still? Because there's something pent up That won't that we won't leave ourselves alone. Why? Because we haven't released it. Why because we don't sit and look sometimes Because why it's hard Like Catherine said she's available like Yvonne is doing available. That's hard Talking about releasing fear to release fear. You got to feel it. It's hard anyway continuing Nancy the fear of chronic pain flares Keep the loop of pain going Working on eliminating that fear using the mind body tools good for you, Nancy That's a hard one. Yes It's all hard Nancy You know, sometimes it's instructive read the tibetan book of the dead It's very short but basically they say Stay in your center and don't get deceived by all this stuff. That's hard And they read that book to people as they're dying and after they've died to remind them just Stay centered. It's okay The reason why it's instructive is because life what we call life is the same thing And it doesn't make it any less hard chronic pain is hard it's very instructive And the way you eliminate the fear of pain is as i've talked about in the the past podcasts Uh, just like a fear of anything You have to feel it You've got to go slowly You've got to let it connect touch something if you if you're not touching The light of your own awareness if it's not quite bright enough yet for you to feel Touch something else touch a tree You can touch a wall the wall in your house Does it feel calm The table next to you. Does it feel calm? Everything has a feeling We scrambled up the feelings with our hallucinations We twist the consciousness and we make it feel this way or that way drama Does the table have drama? No that conscious there's only one building block and everything and us and everything around us and that is Pure consciousness and it is calm Table is not thinking so all it has in it is pure consciousness. It's calm Feel the table And soak it up Receive it receive the wall receive receive the tree walk around and bare feet Receive the earth Let the fear Have what it wants it wants peace It wants to know it's safe. Let the table tell it it's safe. I know that sounds crazy, but it There's something there I'm, not saying don't read books or philosophy. We could talk about all that And i'm not saying you're asking that but somebody would because I would So there's many different levels we exist on lots of levels and as I talk I'm talking to nancy, but somebody else or maybe even nancy at another time might bring up another level And and somebody might say but you said touch a table. Yes touch a table, but another label level of us May need something else another practice for it. The mind has a different practice Than the hand than the heart Than the energy body than the bliss body than the cosmic body than the causal body you know, we were so many different parts than our chakras our energy systems our nadis our Normally it just works out fine and without knowing what we're doing if we stay aware We'll just gravitate and sometimes do this practice and sometimes do that practice Without really knowing why all we know is it satisfies us today That's good enough. That's how you know Just says yes. Thank you all i'm in a listening mode tonight, but every Share is important to me and I recognize myself to it Some extent and all shared. Thank you so much for saying that jess You're speaking on behalf of all of us. There's only one. We're all the same. Have you noticed that? Right now we might have one thing in our life That's more pronounced than another but we can pretty much understand what everybody else is saying Because we have at least a little bit of it Probably right now sometimes a lot Nancy, it's making a difference as I dig deeper into the things you are saying Thank you. Nancy I want to commend you and I want to say what I say Isn't what I say it's what The universe says It's what so many wise people have said They don't all say it because they've read the same book they all say it because Intuitively, it's true And when people say things And you say things nancy that are inspiring people perhaps i'm saying some things Just said just said some katherine. Yvonne everybody That's our our deeper self Talking to everybody and it's there's something there for us all that's why I love these groups Yes, heidi says sharing connection. We're sharing connection. We're both right now And also sharing connection in the healing when i'm saying Touch a table or a tree the healing is in the connection because the connection dissolves The delusion that i'm separate When i'm not separate when i'm whole I find I am peace. I am love the peace. I feel on the table is the peace that I am I wouldn't feel it if it wasn't me I'll tell you another story. I used to work a lot with hypnosis. I worked with about 25 000 people through the years big groups little groups I'm, also a psychotherapist and I did a lot of hypno kind of Hypnotherapeutic, uh therapies some I invented some I use a lot of experience One time a high school calls me up and says will you do a stage show? I said I don't do stage shows Oh, please our our our we've heard good things about you. Our seniors are graduating. Will you do the stage show for them? I said, okay. I said yes because I couldn't say no basically And I did it and they was there was a couple hundred people there and the graduating seniors were up front and it was a alcohol-free night I Took some people from the audience had the valedictorian. I had all of them Forget the number two And then I had them count the number of fingers on their hand and they would go one three, four, five six Seven eight nine ten eleven now These are kids they would get very excited and very upset that they had 11 fingers And they knew they did because they counted them themselves and it always came out 11 Because I had the number two disappeared Well, the valedictorian was very good at math. I think he was the best at math in his school And he was very clear thinking but he was hypnotized he believed He had 11 fingers But he knew And he asked me can I put I says I want to put my hands on your hands And he knew if he did that something would happen and what would happen is he would see That his hands matched mine and it would dissolve the trance that he had 11 fingers because I had 10 It would it would dissolve the trance. Well That's what happens in these kind of groups When we talk truth it dissolves the trance of delusion when you sit with yourself in meditation. It dissolves the trance of illusion you you quit believing all these crazy delusions which are just As we shine our being through our hallucinations when they're off kilter uh We believe things like it'll never get better. It's horrible. I will never have a happy life. I will All these things i'll always have panic attacks all of us have these delusions every single one of us that's the Goal of life in a way the process of dissolving these so that we can be clear whole beings Because we're hypnotized That's the point do you like the guy that like the valedictorian tried to do Touch the earth it will dissolve your illusions Because it's not thinking it's just emanating calmness The table is not deluded. I'm deluded. That's why I touch the table Okay Um, yes, so heidi sharing connections that dissolves delusion Heidi says we are less in nature and away from our tribe Uh learning that a family doesn't have to be by biological. Yes Yes, it doesn't need to be it's your connection Families can be tribal and they can be biological but that's not necessarily healthy It has a place to it There's a power to it, but it doesn't need to be it doesn't mean it's a healthy power Often it isn't So find what you can connect to and what? resonates nancy Touch and pet my cats. Absolutely nancy Absolutely They're calming nancy continues and she's learning acceptance Yes acceptance is another word for receiving If all of us could receive more we'd be healed In connection is healing I did a podcast on awakening through connecting or something like that Scroll back through my podcast any of you that follow me will be alerted when I have new podcasts But also you'll get a list of all my old podcasts all 115 of them go back to the one about connection It's very relevant to us what we're talking about right now Heidi struggle less william Yeah Struggle less and i'll tell you I struggle less but there will be times when We don't just have one old thing. We've repressed I'm speaking about myself. There might be 500 of them Could be a thousand of them About 80 of mine. I'm guessing have dissolved and released and relaxed and I know who I am Whether they dissolve or not. I know the radiance of my being so i'm already awake. I don't need them to dissolve But to have a good life The more they dissolve the better because when you shine even if you stay in your buddha nature When you walk in the world, you have to shine through those prisms of your personality That's what you use to walk through the world so To the degree that they're there it generates pain and then you get Engulfed in delusion everybody would that's why gurus go off the deep end. That's why sometimes Uh, that's why you will or I will uh, it doesn't mean It's separate from being awake but It is related to being awake and when I say be awake through the body. I mean the more you can Flow clearly through your body the more radiant you can be As Catherine said earlier she quit struggling to a great degree and she's not trying to fight with her feelings She's just feeling them When you allow yourself to feel You don't struggle anymore that takes care of it That takes care of it Catherine there's always something to be grateful for even in the midst of hardship or difficulty. It's hard to be sad When we're grateful. Yes All of consciousness is That which we're grateful for it's love bliss consciousness and being grateful is simply recognizing The beauty all around us and in us. It's always there. It's just How hard are we blocking it out when we're not blocking it out? We are what we call grateful because we will resonate and Catherine, um Put a heart and nikki says working with earth walking in the wild can't do enough. Yes. Nikki. It's so powerful Uh, what's the term earthing when you walk barefooted just so thank you. Yes, the delusions hypnosis we get stuck in Oh so many levels as humans. Yep, baby steps Life will give you what you need to work on As you need to work on it, so you don't have to figure it out. It will pop up every day You'll notice suddenly you've got this thing That you can work on the only thing I could say is The most healing thing you can do is sit still And meditate that's just another word for meditating sit still Because when you sit still you can't repress stuff and when you can't repress stuff It eventually comes out of your system. It's painful, but it comes out of your system And you become clearer and clearer So Just meditate and I mean just sit still listen to the meditation if you can in my podcast. It's something like Podcast number seven or something and then I go practice it with you in later podcasts Thank you. Catherine and thank you everybody. It is time That we need to sign off, but I look forward to seeing you all soon. Thank you so much for joining us Thank you for such great questions, thank you everybody. Thank you. Nikki. Thanks everybody. Bye. Bye