Daughter Dialogues

Bianca Alexander: Global educator, principal. Creole colorism, classism.

October 22, 2020 Reisha Raney and Bianca Alexander Season 1 Episode 17
Bianca Alexander: Global educator, principal. Creole colorism, classism.
Daughter Dialogues
Chapters
0:27
Growing up in Bedford Heights and Cleveland, Ohio
2:56
Mother auto seat seamstress and metal technician for GM; father foreman at LTV steel
4:23
Attending Catholic school; not knowing own race was black; parent's divorce; culture shock transitioning from Catholic school to inner city public school; friends splitting racially in middle school
8:21
Attending University of Akron; inspiration for wanting to teach and travel abroad; aspiring to have a Cosby Show family; gaining courage from Flat Stanley
10:50
Journey to being hired as an educator abroad
12:05
Interest in international baccalaureate program to develop minds of students to explore other cultures; independent study in France
13:47
Studying instructional technology in graduate school; working for USVI schools; helping schools meet academic and emotional needs of students
16:06
Volunteering for Urban League Young Professionals of Chicago; purposefully getting bad grades in high school because upset about not being in same social class as peers due to parents' divorce
19:30
Studying education law to protect rights of special needs students
21:26
Saudi Arabia- working as resource teacher for students with special needs, relating to classism in their society, not being seen as an American
25:33
Pervasive problems in U.S. Schools serving as inspiration for go into administration; Kuwait- working as a principal, black women also working as school administrators in the Embassy State
28:40
Frustration with Ohio charter school not being equipped to address needs of underprivileged students; serving as the principal for an Indian American school in NM
30:19
Mother not identifying as black but instead American; father's family preferring he would have married a white woman
32:14
Dad not knowing that black man named Bubba wasn't biological father; taboo for Creoles to mingle with blacks; grandmother Lucy Couty leaving LA for OH and relationships with blacks; always knowing grandmother as white in contrast to her Negro certificate
37:32
Family identifying as Creoles of color; ethnicity vs. culture; grandmother sent away because associated with blacks; family pressure on grandmother to marry white; cousins intermarrying to keep fair complected and preserve culture
42:53
DNA testing revealing a first cousin passing for white who wouldn't connect until saw relation through family also passing
43:11
Being related to genealogist Elizabeth Shown Mills co-author of The Forgotten People: Cane River's Creoles of Color
44:11
Defining Creole as the food, the Catholic church, intermarrying, consanguinity, preserving their history and culture
46:32
Creole mix of Native American, African, German, Spanish, French, and Jewish ethnicities
47:42
Family's Creole social status attained by former slave Marie Therese Coincoin and Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer in their plaçage relationship
50:55
Marie Therese Buard, Metoyer's white second wife; descending from Coincoin and Metoyer's son Dominique who also held slaves; Creole class hierarchy having whites sit behind them in church
53:47
Grandmother's oral stories and being adamant about not being African; being told not to marry black
57:32
Revealing to family that Marie Therese Coincoin was a slave; grandmother's reaction to bringing a black man home; grandmother shunned by her Creole family and sent to a black school apart from siblings
59:23
Class division in family of Metoyer descendants, grandmother's parents were farmers but other Creole family attended college; Civil war segmented family while striving to secure status in community; planters vs. sharecroppers
1:00:43
Learning that parent of Lorraine Gallien was not Marie Metoyer but instead Lolitte Vercher
1:02:23
Descending from Dominique Metoyer
1:04:04
Creole racial identity- can chose what want to be, if can be passe blanc (pass for white) then can assimilate for own benefit; grandmother identifying as white to survive; uncles taking up with dark skinned women; grandmother going against elders
1:07:43
Dating dark skinned black men in defiance of family's directive
1:08:41
Pilgrimage to Cloutierville, Cane River, LA for first time at age of 40, fear of not being accepted in the rural time; grandmother's siblings keeping touch by phone
1:10:53
Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer's Revolutionary War patriot service
1:11:27
Learning about eligibility to join DAR while searching for grandmother's birth records by calling the Metoyer hometown church
1:13:07
Feeling connected to patriot through similarities speaking French and being a leader; questioning why ancestors didn't fight against slavery; family's history wasn't traditional negative narrative of slavery
1:17:56
Feelings about Metoyer as Revolutionary War Soldier contributing to Creole society being decimated by Anglo-American rule
1:19:00
Joining the DAR to preserve grandmother's legacy after she had been rejected by both blacks and whites; protecting and honoring grandmother's name
1:21:42
Embracing African, European and American Indian heritage; "I am American before I am anything but even before I am American I am Christian"; Feeling DAR is a beautiful organization
1:24:47
Being in DAR with some Metoyer descendants identifying white others black; being American isn't about race but where you were born
1:27:23
Deciding to identify as black
1:29:51
Deciding to join Cane River chapter in LA although living in NM and raised in OH; only joining DAR after identifying with a black member
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Daughter Dialogues
Bianca Alexander: Global educator, principal. Creole colorism, classism.
Oct 22, 2020 Season 1 Episode 17
Reisha Raney and Bianca Alexander

Bianca talks about leading schools in the Middle East; and her Creole culture in which cousins intermarried to remain fair complexioned and preserve their culture, her grandmother deciding to passe blanc (pass for white), being adamant about not being African, and being shunned by her family because she had less European features than her siblings and associated with blacks; and her family's Creole social status and wealth attained in the Cane River, Louisiana community by former slave Marie Therese Coincoin who owned land and slaves resulting from a plaçage relationship with Frenchman Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer.  She shares stories about growing up in Bedford Heights and Cleveland, Ohio; not knowing that she was black; not being in the same social class as her peers due to parents’ divorce; earning a bachelor’s degree in Secondary Education/French and master’s in Instructional Technology from the University of Akron; her interest in developing the minds of students to explore other cultures; her independent study in France; earning a master’s in education law to protect rights of special needs students; working in Saudi Arabia as a resource teacher for students with special needs, relating to classism in their society, and not being seen as an American; working as a principal in Kuwait; frustration with U.S. schools not being equipped to address the social and emotional needs of disadvantaged students; serving as the principal of an Indian American school in New Mexico; her mother not identifying as black but instead American and her father's family preferring that he would have married a white woman; always knowing her grandmother, Lucy Couty, as white in contrast to her Negro certificate; family sending her grandmother to a Negro school apart from her siblings, who had European features, because of her more black features; family pressure on her grandmother to marry white but her instead having relationships with black men; defining Creole as the food, the Catholic church, and consanguinity; the Creole Native American, African, German, Spanish, French, and Jewish peoples creating a mixed-race group of people who lived peacefully within their isolated community while under French and Spanish rule; the Creole class hierarchy dictating that whites sit behind them in church; dating dark skinned black men in defiance of her family’s directive to not marry a black; Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer’s Revolutionary War service; her family's history not being the traditional negative narrative of slavery; joining the DAR to preserve her grandmother's legacy after she had been rejected by both blacks and whites; embracing her African, European and American Indian heritage;  "I am American before I am anything but even before I am American I am Christian"; feeling the DAR is a beautiful organization; “being American isn't about race but where you were born"; the necessity to identify with other black DAR members. Read Bianca’s biography at www.daughterdialogues.com/daughters

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Bianca talks about leading schools in the Middle East; and her Creole culture in which cousins intermarried to remain fair complexioned and preserve their culture, her grandmother deciding to passe blanc (pass for white), being adamant about not being African, and being shunned by her family because she had less European features than her siblings and associated with blacks; and her family's Creole social status and wealth attained in the Cane River, Louisiana community by former slave Marie Therese Coincoin who owned land and slaves resulting from a plaçage relationship with Frenchman Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer.  She shares stories about growing up in Bedford Heights and Cleveland, Ohio; not knowing that she was black; not being in the same social class as her peers due to parents’ divorce; earning a bachelor’s degree in Secondary Education/French and master’s in Instructional Technology from the University of Akron; her interest in developing the minds of students to explore other cultures; her independent study in France; earning a master’s in education law to protect rights of special needs students; working in Saudi Arabia as a resource teacher for students with special needs, relating to classism in their society, and not being seen as an American; working as a principal in Kuwait; frustration with U.S. schools not being equipped to address the social and emotional needs of disadvantaged students; serving as the principal of an Indian American school in New Mexico; her mother not identifying as black but instead American and her father's family preferring that he would have married a white woman; always knowing her grandmother, Lucy Couty, as white in contrast to her Negro certificate; family sending her grandmother to a Negro school apart from her siblings, who had European features, because of her more black features; family pressure on her grandmother to marry white but her instead having relationships with black men; defining Creole as the food, the Catholic church, and consanguinity; the Creole Native American, African, German, Spanish, French, and Jewish peoples creating a mixed-race group of people who lived peacefully within their isolated community while under French and Spanish rule; the Creole class hierarchy dictating that whites sit behind them in church; dating dark skinned black men in defiance of her family’s directive to not marry a black; Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer’s Revolutionary War service; her family's history not being the traditional negative narrative of slavery; joining the DAR to preserve her grandmother's legacy after she had been rejected by both blacks and whites; embracing her African, European and American Indian heritage;  "I am American before I am anything but even before I am American I am Christian"; feeling the DAR is a beautiful organization; “being American isn't about race but where you were born"; the necessity to identify with other black DAR members. Read Bianca’s biography at www.daughterdialogues.com/daughters

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Growing up in Bedford Heights and Cleveland, Ohio
Mother auto seat seamstress and metal technician for GM; father foreman at LTV steel
Attending Catholic school; not knowing own race was black; parent's divorce; culture shock transitioning from Catholic school to inner city public school; friends splitting racially in middle school
Attending University of Akron; inspiration for wanting to teach and travel abroad; aspiring to have a Cosby Show family; gaining courage from Flat Stanley
Journey to being hired as an educator abroad
Interest in international baccalaureate program to develop minds of students to explore other cultures; independent study in France
Studying instructional technology in graduate school; working for USVI schools; helping schools meet academic and emotional needs of students
Volunteering for Urban League Young Professionals of Chicago; purposefully getting bad grades in high school because upset about not being in same social class as peers due to parents' divorce
Studying education law to protect rights of special needs students
Saudi Arabia- working as resource teacher for students with special needs, relating to classism in their society, not being seen as an American
Pervasive problems in U.S. Schools serving as inspiration for go into administration; Kuwait- working as a principal, black women also working as school administrators in the Embassy State
Frustration with Ohio charter school not being equipped to address needs of underprivileged students; serving as the principal for an Indian American school in NM
Mother not identifying as black but instead American; father's family preferring he would have married a white woman
Dad not knowing that black man named Bubba wasn't biological father; taboo for Creoles to mingle with blacks; grandmother Lucy Couty leaving LA for OH and relationships with blacks; always knowing grandmother as white in contrast to her Negro certificate
Family identifying as Creoles of color; ethnicity vs. culture; grandmother sent away because associated with blacks; family pressure on grandmother to marry white; cousins intermarrying to keep fair complected and preserve culture
DNA testing revealing a first cousin passing for white who wouldn't connect until saw relation through family also passing
Being related to genealogist Elizabeth Shown Mills co-author of The Forgotten People: Cane River's Creoles of Color
Defining Creole as the food, the Catholic church, intermarrying, consanguinity, preserving their history and culture
Creole mix of Native American, African, German, Spanish, French, and Jewish ethnicities
Family's Creole social status attained by former slave Marie Therese Coincoin and Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer in their plaçage relationship
Marie Therese Buard, Metoyer's white second wife; descending from Coincoin and Metoyer's son Dominique who also held slaves; Creole class hierarchy having whites sit behind them in church
Grandmother's oral stories and being adamant about not being African; being told not to marry black
Revealing to family that Marie Therese Coincoin was a slave; grandmother's reaction to bringing a black man home; grandmother shunned by her Creole family and sent to a black school apart from siblings
Class division in family of Metoyer descendants, grandmother's parents were farmers but other Creole family attended college; Civil war segmented family while striving to secure status in community; planters vs. sharecroppers
Learning that parent of Lorraine Gallien was not Marie Metoyer but instead Lolitte Vercher
Descending from Dominique Metoyer
Creole racial identity- can chose what want to be, if can be passe blanc (pass for white) then can assimilate for own benefit; grandmother identifying as white to survive; uncles taking up with dark skinned women; grandmother going against elders
Dating dark skinned black men in defiance of family's directive
Pilgrimage to Cloutierville, Cane River, LA for first time at age of 40, fear of not being accepted in the rural time; grandmother's siblings keeping touch by phone
Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer's Revolutionary War patriot service
Learning about eligibility to join DAR while searching for grandmother's birth records by calling the Metoyer hometown church
Feeling connected to patriot through similarities speaking French and being a leader; questioning why ancestors didn't fight against slavery; family's history wasn't traditional negative narrative of slavery
Feelings about Metoyer as Revolutionary War Soldier contributing to Creole society being decimated by Anglo-American rule
Joining the DAR to preserve grandmother's legacy after she had been rejected by both blacks and whites; protecting and honoring grandmother's name
Embracing African, European and American Indian heritage; "I am American before I am anything but even before I am American I am Christian"; Feeling DAR is a beautiful organization
Being in DAR with some Metoyer descendants identifying white others black; being American isn't about race but where you were born
Deciding to identify as black
Deciding to join Cane River chapter in LA although living in NM and raised in OH; only joining DAR after identifying with a black member