Bourbon With Friends
It All Came from the Gram! Jason Bourbon.and.Smoke
In this episode, we’re hanging with our friend and fellow Instagrammer, Jason of Bourbon & Smoke. While we already know Jason well, we got to dive into his life a bit more and get a peak behind the curtain of this absolute legend.
We start by learning the origins of the Bourbon & Smoke Instagram handle and some of Jason’s early experiences with single malt scotch. We discussed some of his infamous barrel picks he does with various distilleries and learned about a few upcoming picks. We dig into how he feels about this growing Whiskey Instagram community and how it’s changed over the years.
So sit back, grab yourself a friend and a pour and check out our hangout with Jason. And yes… there’s a squirrel question in there.
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In this episode, we’re hanging with our friend and fellow Instagrammer, Jason of Bourbon & Smoke. While we already know Jason well, we got to dive into his life a bit more and get a peak behind the curtain of this absolute legend.
We start by learning the origins of the Bourbon & Smoke Instagram handle and some of Jason’s early experiences with single malt scotch. We discussed some of his infamous barrel picks he does with various distilleries and learned about a few upcoming picks. We dig into how he feels about this growing Whiskey Instagram community and how it’s changed over the years.
So sit back, grab yourself a friend and a pour and check out our hangout with Jason. And yes… there’s a squirrel question in there.
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Hey everybody, welcome to Bourbon with Friends. Myself, A driane and Martin are here to talk about whiskeys from around the world and how a bourbon with friends can change it. What's going on, guys? How you doing today evening night, wherever, what time zone you're in, talking, listening to us?
Speaker 2:I'm doing pretty good. How about you, Martin?
Speaker 3:I'm tired. Let me see it. At some point you just start to hear me snoring. There's good reason for it. No, it's just a very long, good Memorial Day weekend. You guys have a good one. Actually, I know you had a good one. I saw you two days ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to meet. It was a great time you guys were together. We had a memorial service at. We got to meet.
Speaker 1:That was, it was a great time. Really you guys were together. I was up, uh, we had a memorial service at uh Camp Hale, colorado, at up there and met a few generals, talked to a few colonels, uh, met some gold star families and had a good time remembering the people who served the most.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome Good. Who served the most? Yeah, that's awesome. That was an awesome, good weekend. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I know some people know that I got to meet up with Adriane and a handful of other really great people from Instagram that we've met through this pretty incredible community. We went to a distillery up here in Valparaiso, indiana, called Journeyman Relatively new I believe they started in about 2015, I think is when they opened up their three oaks michigan location but we kind of descended upon it, drank a lot of alcohol, ate a lot of food, a lot of cigars and laughs, um, but, yeah, no, we were just talking about how cool it is that. You know that. I remember at one point we're sitting there and just kind of like looking at everybody that was at the table and I was just like this is sort of all because of instagram. Um, that's pretty cool to get like a community of people that's built up around that, um, which I think I think sort of brings us to who we're going to be talking to today um, our friend jason bourbon. And smoke, what's up, what's up what's going on buddy, how are you guys?
Speaker 4:pretty good man. How man? How about you? I'm good man, it's good to see you guys, good to be part of here, and it's life man.
Speaker 3:I know, right, it is, it is life. It is crazy. Like I was saying, it's just, you know, you start an Instagram page and you do it for probably one or a couple reasons, just to like get out there and start posting pictures of bottles. And then you fast forward six years later and you're sitting and talking and chatting and you like have all these different people you meet up with and it's, it's a completely different experience and it's weird because I'm sure you know it's like you you've never even missed a beat, like you meet them for the first time in person, it's like you've known them forever and it's pretty special, yeah, and it's pretty special.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's pretty special. No, it really is. I think people probably think Dan Heavy Bourbon and I and Ken Whiskey Diz have known each other forever and they've known each other and met plenty of times before. Our first time meeting up ever was KVF and the day before we did Buffalo Trace. Everyone thought we were like best friends, been hanging out forever, and I think it just it looked like you were.
Speaker 4:It's one of those things where it's like good people find good people and I know certain people would just you connect with the, hit it off and like, yeah, the rest of history. Now we're in a group chat messaging every day and you really do build some really good relationships over. You know a really good American spirit and do Instagram.
Speaker 3:Yeah, good relationships over. You know a really good american spirit and do instagram. Yeah it is. I think you kind of nailed it. You know, I think we all of us would have been friends anyways. It's just one of those things like where this liquid literally was what brought everybody together and I mean the whiskey is great, but the people are better, man, I mean it's it's generally people depends on the whiskey. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, sometimes whiskey is better. Sometimes whiskey is better, but yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 2:What's everybody drinking? What's everybody got tonight to drink? Let's hear it.
Speaker 4:I got a little Old Louisville. This is a batch that only just came to California with their launch. So that's it going up and it's not a baby gland, I know, I know this is a big wisdom glass that is.
Speaker 3:That was I need to get one of those.
Speaker 4:I got the coming out the little baby ones with my logo on it ooh yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll be getting one of those yeah, one of the PDF.
Speaker 4:I don't know how I can make it happen or bring that menu, but I'm trying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true, that is a lot. So I got actually, this is something I was given this weekend. This is a distillery called Great Northern Distilling, out of Wisconsin. Right there, it's a rye whiskey. This is a pick done by my friend, germ Freedom Malts, on Instagram, so he brought this down. It's called bad cop. So there was two sister casts um, and they are wildly different. So he did good cop and bad cop for him. Uh, and there this one was my favorite. Uh, good cop was to me a little lighter. Um, this one just had a little more complexity and depth to it, so I won't that one. That's what I'm drinking, hey.
Speaker 2:Adrian, I was going to say I'll go next. I got out my baby gun from Kentucky Bourbon Fest and I am drinking Bardstown Bottled and Bond. Nothing too fancy for me, Delicious Still good.
Speaker 1:I just opened this up. It's the new High West release. Someone say the name.
Speaker 2:Hooray.
Speaker 4:Hooray it hasai. Jackalope on it that is now only. That's actually a great pour. And now they put it away for, I think, like a year or so. But now it's only distillery release, right yes, it is only distillery release.
Speaker 1:It's absolutely phenomenal. The flavors on it are great. It says limited, still release. It's absolutely phenomenal. The flavors on it are great. It says limited sighting on it and that's a little stamp they have on it right next to the Jackalope. I actually love this bottle because it is a Jackalope and we were actually talking about Jackalopes on our last episode.
Speaker 3:I believe Jackalopes and tramp stamps.
Speaker 1:So yeah, no, that was on the episode before the other one of those are probably limited signings.
Speaker 4:let's be honest, oh no.
Speaker 1:Depends on where in California you're at.
Speaker 4:Hey, hey, hey no. You love it. Cheers. Thanks for having me on, absolutely Thank you. Thanks, guys, you love cheers thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, thank you, jason. What got you into this whiskey world like what got you started with it man.
Speaker 4:Uh, I think really just something to escape not escape, but something to kind of get out of my normal day-to-day. Um, like I'm a I'm a total nerd, electrical engineer by day. Um, vp for a media company that handles a bunch of infrastructure and integrations for high power rf to network, to audio, to electrical distributions. Um, and wanted some kind of like escape every night, not escape, just like whew, I can down, you know, relax, enjoy something. Really got into scotch right off the bat. Really, back in the day, you know, predate everything. Highest ball string at Jack. Jack was my jam. I still love Jack, I don't care what anyone says. Number seven will always be around me close by as a friend.
Speaker 4:And Bourbon Smoke I created with one of my colleagues who's now is one of the biggest mountain bike influencers. He's, he works for me. Uh, cali brought a kid, so he was actually a smoke, because he really is doing a lot more like barbecuing and whatnot. Uh, we both did, but he went all in on it. Um, and then we're doing, we're drinking all the time. We go to a bunch of like whiskey events in town. We're like, hey, let's just do this kind of have fun. Um, and then that's back when instagram was pictures, um, and then he, uh, he really went nosedive into, uh, mountain biking. I went really deep into the whiskey world and fast forward seven, eight years, eight, nine years now. Um, here I am like now. I've took on a lot more of the smoke with the cigars and barbecued a lot more I love that.
Speaker 2:I love that it kind of has that double play yeah, kind of have a double play with that.
Speaker 4:That's very cool and it really just became something like I mean, mean, the bar really expanded quickly, as we all, all of our bars have. It's like oh, I'm going to get a bottle this week and this week and this week. You realize you're not drinking a whole bottle every week and all of a sudden you got 50, 100. Just behind me alone I got 400. And that's not even like boxes and stuff. So, yeah, the wife's not too happy, but, um, really make it a point to share like anyone. If it's open and someone comes over, I don't care if you're a novice or anything, it's like try it, cause that's the only way you're going to find it and it helps me kind of put some damage on these bottles.
Speaker 3:Exactly it is. Um, we were, we were joking around too, cause, um, like yourself, has 400 bottles. A couple of people that they were at the meetup they also are probably in that number range and I'm sitting around about 100. I've been there. I used to have 350, but I kind of slimmed stuff down just because it gets to that point, like you said. You're like, how much do you really need? But we sat there. I'm just like between the 14 of us that are here we probably got more whiskey to this entire town of Valparaiso, um, like all the bars combined, for sure.
Speaker 3:Um, I'm just a much better selection, a much better correct. That's awesome. So you said, um, you started with scotch, and I know that, like I see, obviously you still post about it quite a bit if you do your baby glance. What's uh, what was kind of like this first kind of journey into, into scotch, the scotch world, and which ones has stuck around since the beginning?
Speaker 4:uh ben ryok, oh really, yeah, big ben ryok fan um probably. Uh, I got really into, like the single malts um the uh adolphis, um some of the impact stuff, uh, that I believe israelian uh single malts um just uh, it was different, man, it was something that I felt was not trendy at the time and it was something that I had just judged it based off a year or the price or the look of a bottle, without really knowing anything. Let's be honest, that's how a lot of us people can first go into a store like, oh, this bottle looks cool. Or how many people ask you hey, what's a good hundred dollar bottle for a gift? Like, why does that have to be a hundred dollars?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'll go give you Evan Williams bottle on bond for $18 and blind for it. What? Yeah, exactly, um, that's how we learned so much, but yeah, I think scotch was just, uh, probably the madman vibes, to be honest. Yeah, okay, yeah the drinks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's, uh, I think, the thing I like I I find myself always coming back to and I mean I, I was bourbon second. Um, I got into it because my parents were from Scotland, so Scotch was just always sort of around. Um, it was. You know, there was always a bottle of glenfiddich 12 in the cabinet and I was about 14, 13, 14 when I snuck a little taste of it and I fucking hated it, like I was like this is disgusting shit. Um, and then again fast forward when I got older. Um, that's a bottle that I will always have and that's a bottle of my dad and I will always share whenever we get together. I have a cigar, I have a little glass of Glenfiddich 12. He has a bunch of good whiskey too. I have stuff that could maybe be arguably better than Glenfiddich 12. But it's just a bottle that, like you said with Jack Daniels, it's just one of those that's always going to be there, no matter what.
Speaker 2:Yeah 100%, while Martin is talking about a whiskey memory, do you have a first whiskey memory or an early experience trying alcohol or anything like that that you can share?
Speaker 4:I had really bad first experiences with alcohol.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean, I think, I think every.
Speaker 4:I've been fortunate. There's been a lot of good experiences meeting master distillers, trying what they're doing and listening to them and just kind of going through that. I got experiences. But I think one bottle of that it was before it really blew up was Rock Hill Farms. That was me and my dad. My dad just liked it. He liked the bottle design and whatnot. And that's when, back when my local store here, roco, had it like two for 60 before it blew up and it was a bottle that just was good, it was tasty, you know, and one of the bottles I had a buddy. He actually made a lamp out of it and whatnot out of an empty bottle. I think Rock Hill Farms might just be my tie, the way Martin has with Glen Fittick. Probably Rock Hill would probably be the one. Also for me, pinhook. Pinhook was my trajectory where I went all in on trying to just find single barrels. I remember when I bought them first at Rowe. Rowe was like no one buys these.
Speaker 4:I'm like good. For $35, $40,. I was like, yeah, I'll keep taking them all. I was like I wanted a different wax. I was buying it off that as I was learning more about what Pin Hook was, who Sean Joseph was, why he was doing what he was doing, and then also looking back at like look at that trajectory of I'm going to buy 150,000 barrels, I'm just going to wait for 14 years to release a vertical, Like who thinks of that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome, I just got my first couple of bottles of pin hook. I have not opened them yet. They were a gift to me, so I have about 40 different. I'm pretty excited I got. I have about 40 different picks. I'm pretty excited I have two. I have a pink top and a blue top up there.
Speaker 4:So blue is no longer coming back. Blue is gone, really, yeah. So the hide-proof rye is gone. The only people who drank it was California. It didn't sell anywhere else. That's rye humor. No, that's sell anywhere else. That's Rye Humor. No, that's a barrel pick.
Speaker 1:That's a barrel pick right.
Speaker 2:It says high proof.
Speaker 4:Yes, cashmere rye. Yeah, it's a teal, and not blue, that's their version of blue. And then, yeah, the magenta is their cashmere bourbon, which is still sustainable. And now, the cool thing, they're at a. They're at a because that's their own, distillate through castle and key, that they have a recipe with. They're doing now a five-year age statement on those no kidding yeah, yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's been a cool little journey to follow, like and you know I'm on a text with sean all the time on certain things and yeah they're, they're having some fun doing what they're doing that's exciting to hear.
Speaker 1:That sounds like we may have to get him on soon enough to talk about everything that he's got going here in the near future.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, I actually got a package today from uh chris lanter, urban bourbonist, and it's every year. So far we've been training Pindupt Pigs. His pig just came in, so we just picked mine with River City a month ago. So ours will be in in about two months and I'll send him one back.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's awesome man.
Speaker 3:Anytime. You had a post not too long ago and I just thought it was great, just because I think that it's kind of the way things are starting to go, hopefully about. You know, I don't, I don't want allocated. You know, give me a craft or a single barrel any day. Um, what's been probably some of the most exciting craft distillers you've come across oh, I would say locally, right up the right up the hill.
Speaker 4:It's about two and a half hours away. We're going to June 7th. I'm going to do my second annual bourbon and smoke pig. It's with Colby and Ashley Frey, with Frey Ranch, frey Ranch, everything they're doing, man, from literally farming to distilling to the glass. Colby and Ashley literally do it all.
Speaker 4:I'd say Frey Ranch man right before March going to Hard true spirits. That place man is just in for whiskey fans or it is just beautiful grounds and making some killer product. Yeah, um, I just got a bottle of uh of holiday. I gotta try. Um, which one did you get? Yeah, oh, it's delicious, you'll love it Very good. Yeah, cool, would you consider High West Crown of Craft? I mean, not anymore, not anymore. The owner kind of defeats that purpose. I do like independent buyers. Lost Lantern is doing some fantastic stuff. Yeah, absolutely. I've heard really good things about Cedar Ridge. I haven't tried any of their product yet. I can tell you Griffin and Gray in Northern California is a really good product. Their rye is out of this world. And then kind of I like blending the blenders are.
Speaker 2:Give the blenders credit, as well, who surprised you the most at KBF?
Speaker 4:Blue Note had a great bottle. I knew you were going to say that Blue Note had a great bottle. Who else was it that Italian one was okay, that was the Luca. Mariano I think it's called yeah.
Speaker 2:Luca yeah.
Speaker 4:Mariana Penelope had some good stuff. Nulu had that toasted. That was there. It was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:The Lucky 7. I think it was a nine year.
Speaker 4:Was it older? I swear I was thinking it was a nine yearyear.
Speaker 2:Cool Was it older, I swear, I thought it was, I was thinking it was a nine-year but I can't remember that. I remember was good. I did try that you had a bit of slushies. We did have a lot of urban slushies.
Speaker 1:We heard you guys had some adventures with some slushies last year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the whole team at Burrow is fantastic. And talking about blenders, nick over there what she does. She's a scientist, um, but I will say we were fortunate enough to get a 20 year old gold seagrass floater, which is yes, well, that's just rude.
Speaker 1:Now I want one.
Speaker 2:I tried the seagrass, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the 20-year-old.
Speaker 4:No, they were just doing seagrass or dovetail floaters, but I think that gold yeah right, yeah, the dovetail I just got a bottle of recently.
Speaker 1:It's absolutely phenomenal. I love the flavors, the seagrass I unfortunately drank all of it already. No, I was gonna say are you.
Speaker 4:So the seagrass is one of those people like some people love it, some people it's too flavorful. I remember for a while and I'll be very honest, I was I stayed away from barrel just because price point, like I don't know really enough about, I don't know what it is. Um, another one, I judge, judge it by its bottles. Like yeah, it looks like a corn-boring bottle and whatnot. I remember I got a blind sample from the rep when I was at Rose one time and he didn't want to tell us anything about it because Rose like oh, apparel's too pricey, it's not enough margin, blah, blah, blah. We took a sip and I was like holy shit, what is this? Like? It's just going to knock my socks off. And it was like the perfect day outside too. We're outside on this patio drinking. I was like I'm crushing this and you got that apricot. You got that. I think it's madura and rum barrel finish I think it's those three finishes. But that rye, it just blends and comes together in a perfect pour. I loved it.
Speaker 1:So I'm not surprised that you finished it, yeah, so that seagrass went away pretty damn quick. But I got it at wholesale cost, so I didn't pay what everybody else did.
Speaker 4:It's worth it. And it's one of those bottles that's like, yep, it's worth it, yep.
Speaker 1:So Well, what do you got going on this year that you're excited about in the whiskey world? Um, I know the most half the year's already up, but you got the additional half the year summer, fall, winter that's coming around. Is there anything that you have planned that's big and exciting.
Speaker 4:Some things I'm working on. I just can't tell because I need them to finalize For me. I'm really excited. We just locked in June 7th. I'm going up the night before, spending the night on the farm and doing my second barrel pick for myself with Frey Ranch. I'm doing a single barrel rod, really excited about that, and I'll be selling it through a rose site, kbf. I just love KBF. Man. Like interacting with so many people, like when, when Adrian started saying what's your favorite form? Like man, I just forget. Like I was more just hanging around and just shooting the shit, had four cigars a day, couldn't breathe the next morning, and like it was just living in that moment. And like not worrying about creating content or you know, work or responsibilities back home. It was kind of like hey, let the shoulders down a little bit and kind of just have fun, interact and meet people, because that was probably I met almost 60 people interacted on on Instagram, like truly interacted um within 48 hours, which was awesome hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4:It was very cool yeah and then you know just, we do a bunch of River City stuff. So, uh, I run a whiskey group here in Northern California with uh River City and we're constantly doing events every month. We do barrel picks every month that we release. Um, those always keep me, you know, on my toes and kind of balancing that and balancing life. But kbf and uh, uh, my own barrel pick is probably the two picks I'm looking forward to whiskey wise this year oh, that's exciting.
Speaker 1:I mean, do you have something with your group that's coming up really soon? I mean you could probably talk about it now. It's going to be released. This will be released probably the week of or the week after this happens. But that dinner if you want to talk about that, because we just had mike montgomery on oh nice uh.
Speaker 4:So yeah, blue run, we're doing a big dinner with trace coming out. We're doing a big four-course dinner up at a speakeasy with our group. We sell tickets. Usually you get a welcome cocktail, four-course meal and between four to seven to eight pours, usually all including the ticket. It's a great time. We sell a lot of bottles, so it's really worthwhile for the brand to have someone out here and really just educating and teaching people about a brand each month. So far this year we've had Peerless, we've had Chicken Cock, we had Penelope, we've had Wyoming Whiskey John, like on someone, uh, uh, uh, wyoming whiskey. Um, I think that's it so far. And then we have blue around, we have Griffin and grain. Uh, who else are we going to have out?
Speaker 1:here. I have no idea. I mean, this is your show. I'm just here to help.
Speaker 2:That's it, that's mountain. It all sounds like great guests.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you all sound like great guests. Yeah, 10th Island's coming out. We're going to do a bar sound right now. Brandon the Daily Tramp and Danny come out and do a blending event at night. Pinhook will be out and then we do our annual Van Winkle dinner in December and we do the whole lineup and kind of let Buffalo Trace Sazerac kind of do some other pours and whatnot. So, yeah, it's a fun time Really just interacting with people. That's what it's all about. It's like the name of the podcast is fantastic because it's really Irving with friends.
Speaker 1:Who knows, maybe we have to come out there and record during someone's dinner and get you and Ro and a few guests and interactions and talk about it in. August yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we, we're a good time. If you can't tell, we like to party, we know when it's business, but we also like to have a good time, that's for sure, definitely. So what about you guys? What's? What are you guys looking forward to? I'm going to flip that question back Like guys what's?
Speaker 1:what are?
Speaker 4:you guys looking forward, so I'm gonna flip that question back like hey, something you're excited about for this, the rest of this year, oh god.
Speaker 3:Um. Well, there's a couple different uh whiskey things that might happen. We're hoping in august, I think first week of august we're gonna go to, uh, dripless glen on baraboo, wisconsin. Um, they've been doing some phenomenal things. I just got an eight year ride from them. It is un-fucking-believable uh. So that's kind of uh one thing that's coming up. It's kind of probably gonna be about the same group, if not maybe more people. It was just this one on uh, saturday, this meetup that we had. We were literally sitting there that night like we've got to plan our next one because we have to keep doing this kind of thing all the time. The other option you brought it up earlier too is a cedar ridge. That's not that far from us. Either. They're out in des moines or kind of like south of des moines, um, but they make phenomenal stuff if you can get a hold of any of their their ryes that they do, or some of their bourbons or their rums I don't know if you're into rum and you got a badass 13-year plantation around there.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I started getting into some of that really kind of funky Jamaican stuff. I've been getting into that hard and they make some pretty fantastic rum there too. Might be getting down to Colorado and Brian's Neck of the Woods at some point, so I'll be heading out to Tenth Mountain and hanging out out there and then, uh, there's a chance not entirely sure yet, but there's a chance. I'll be doing a barrel pick of some. I can't really say what it is yet, but it's going to be pretty, pretty, fucking exciting if it happens. Nice, these guys, yeah, um, yeah, it's, it's, uh, it's. If anyone is ever on my lives, they know exactly what I'm talking about, I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 1:I'm going to give them a call and tell them no, yeah, you're like fuck this, don't let this guy do it, don't let him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So what I just poured is Talanua. It's the Old Saints this year's for Old Saints, it's a phenomenal blend. New it's the old saints um, this year's for old saints, it's a phenomenal blend. If jason have you I'm not sure if you've had town new it yet or any town new products it's a single pot. Still, they're doing absolute, absolutely phenomenal job. They do it like traditional irish whiskey is, but they do it in here in colorado, in arvada, colorado, I believe. Oh sweet, yeah. So they do a great job.
Speaker 4:I think there's so many distilleries in Colorado Peach Street. Liquor Peach Street is absolutely good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's in Palisade.
Speaker 4:That's about half of them, which is pretty good. Reckon Ridge is out there, you've got Stranahan's, you've got Old Island.
Speaker 1:One.
Speaker 3:Laws.
Speaker 1:Well, laws, yeah, coppercraft.
Speaker 4:They're out there. Yeah, nice, okay, sweet, yeah, I mean, there's just so much good whiskey and that's where it goes back to that. One real idea. I was like stop chasing the bottle that you never have and go try something that you can have that's affordable and everyday product. And it's someone who I'm not saying the big brands don't care, but these guys literally care a little bit more because it's sometimes their family's distillery. They are the ones who literally put the distillery together. They're paying electrical bills Like I don't know something. The way I'm kind of at now, like if I get a couple cool bottles, like one bottle every year, I wanted the gts after that I don't get anything else like, still be it.
Speaker 4:Someone can bottle having. If I really wanted and I'm drunk enough, I'll slide a mix and pay for it exactly.
Speaker 1:I mean that sound. That sounds like a good time, where I need to be at that one time of year uh place where you're at.
Speaker 4:Uh, the rare character dinner we did last March. Uh, we did. We did three bottle kills. We did a I'm going to tell you a hundredth anniversary. Uh, we did an OFC 1994. We kill half the bottle. Um, and then how young that we killed.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Not terrible.
Speaker 1:He did good. I think I'm going to go sit in a corner and cry.
Speaker 4:There's a funny story about Al Young. Anytime Ro sees it somewhere, he's like no one deserves to have it, so he will buy whatever's left. We had Bardstown two years ago doing picks and we went in the little room and they had that much left of an Al Young. He's like I'm finishing it and he's like no one else deserves to have it. It's like his thing. I need to have all the Al Young in my life and I was like, hey, yeah, me too, let me get a four, that's great.
Speaker 1:So, adrian Martin, do you got anything with squirrels?
Speaker 3:I was thinking of one. So, jason, what's the squirrel thing? Yeah, let me explain this.
Speaker 4:So at least one context before. What's the squirrel thing? Let me explain this.
Speaker 3:I just realized how ridiculous this is going to sound. Usually we have people on, we interview them. It's mostly whiskey-related questions. I don't actually know how it started. I blame Brian.
Speaker 1:No, it was absolutely me. We have to have one stupid question and I want it to be involving squirrels, because everybody has a squirrel moment in their life. So I figured, keep it the squirrel context. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the one, the one I thought about, and I don't really know where this came from. Maybe it's just because we've been talking about whiskey and how, in a lot of ways, this weekend felt like I drowned in whiskey because I came back with like 15 bottles and about you know, 60 samples, and that's pretty much what I've been doing for like the last four days. Um, so I thought about if you were, if you were a squirrel and you had to drown in whiskey, which whiskey would you want to drown in?
Speaker 2:That's pretty good, martin, that's fucking rude.
Speaker 4:It's like hey, would you rather burn or drown?
Speaker 2:Martin brings the darkness. I'm going to go out, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if I'm going out, drowning in something I'm going to try to like. You know what I mean. Yeah, if I'm going out drowning in something, I'm going to try to drink as much as possible, like when they fall on the chocolate. I try to use my yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm looking at a bottle and I'm just kind of like I'm thinking, like to make fun, to make this be a good joke, I'd rather be like in a big blend of Mark Carter blending something and he's just pulling on me and laughing Because Mark would probably be like haha, here's more. I want to go out laughing. So yeah, I'm going to go with some old Carter. There we go.
Speaker 2:I mean that's perfect.
Speaker 3:That's a good answer.
Speaker 2:Totally got a visual on that. It keeps you imagining Pouring it in.
Speaker 4:If you know Mark's laugh just like oh, we need more we gotta blend more.
Speaker 3:We're gonna kill this fucking squirrel.
Speaker 1:I'm not even sure if that's worse. It'd be like one bottle and the squirrel's dead yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we need more than a bottle. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, I mean with you.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know the squirrel, I'll do a squirrel sized human and then, and then it's a lot of whiskey yeah, definitely it'll be fun yeah if I'm going out that way.
Speaker 4:Uh, yeah, I'm going out with some old carter there we go perfect, there we go.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. That was my squirrel question. There we go, I Perfect.
Speaker 1:There we go. That's awesome. That was my school question. There we go. I mean, we got it knocked out of the way, that's perfect, and now we can get back to something else ridiculous, it doesn't really matter at this point. So everybody doesn't know you personally, right? You do have a large family. You do have a wife family. You do have a wife. You have a phenomenal job, as you just talked about at the beginning of the episode of what you do for a living. Um, is there anything you're excited for with your family that's coming up that you want to share and I'm not going to give any details what and who and how many, everything like that. That's up to you but is there anything with your family that you would want to share that you're excited for here in the near?
Speaker 4:future. Yeah, man, so I got four kids my daughter, my oldest daughter is five, my twin boys are four and our youngest daughter is a little over a year. So, like we kind of work, we're in the thick of it. It's a fun balancing act right now but, dude, every day something new with kids. Man, kids are so resilient, they're so, uh, observant and they retain way more than what we give them credit for, man, they know what they're doing, how they're doing it, um, so every day is fun, just as a dad like man, that was the first time they did x or first time they did y or something like that just learning something new, um, and watching sometimes what we do as parents with my wife and I, and uh, just, they wanted to start repeating it.
Speaker 4:Um, we're, we're going down to mammoth lakes. Uh, it's a big trip. We do. Mammoth is absolutely one of the most beautiful places on earth. We go spend a week down there at the lake, up in a cabin. Kids, they love being on the kayaks, they love kind of just being out and about riding their bikes and scooters. It's just nice to kind of be that elevation, that fresh air, something different, quiet, something about the mountains. Man, it's just being in Californiaifornia. You forget, like, how busy it is, how many people there are. You go to mammoth, even though it's still in california. It's a three, four hour drive. You feel like you're just so somewhere like an environment.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, um, and we're fortunate where we live. Uh, we got napa, that's, you know, 45 minutes, tahoe's two hours away, so we've got some beautiful places around us. Yeah, man, I think just day-to-day family stuff, trying to make some memories this summer in and out of summer school for the kids. But sports, they're gearing up Soccer. Just being a dad man, it's so fun. That's the best job I've ever had. I can make a million dollars in my career. My number one job in life is being a dad man. That's what I grind for and live for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's probably one of the best answers I've heard in a very long time, and that beats out Mike's comment about tramp stamps. I mean that you have a, you have the best answer.
Speaker 4:I walked away yet to show you mine.
Speaker 3:Mine's a.
Speaker 4:QR code and when you follow it, it follows me, so it's great.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to see that great yeah hey here you go see, there's the tattoo.
Speaker 3:I should have got.
Speaker 2:I should have got that tattoo over the weekend, right dang it no, we were, I don't know, yeah, it was a joke that I was gonna get a butterfly like a blue run butterfly, and then I really thought I would do it, and then it just got too late in the day and we just really didn't.
Speaker 3:We were literally at dinner and like googling tattoo spots around Valparaiso just to try to get an appointment with somebody, but then we just forgot about it. Got too drunk.
Speaker 2:It kind of fell through the cracks. We ended up back at the hotel, all of us sitting outside with our whiskey and our cigars.
Speaker 4:I'm way overdue for more tattoos. I have zero. This one on my arm. I'm trying to get the best picture of it Backwards. Oh nice, this is the time my daughter was born and that's Lola and that's the flower Love that. And then I'm going to fill up this arm this summer. Personally, that's what I'm more excited about. It's my tattoo. I'm doing a double headed owl. The owl is going to have. My boys were premature so they were in the NICU, one of them for 41 days, one of them for 51 days. So they had inside of like the little like band was like an owl thing that like these volunteers like drew and put up there and had their name on it. So instead of their name, I'm going to put their NICU tags like on one of the feathers on their side, so like that's going to kind of tie up this arm. That's so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, that just makes my tattoo seem fucking worthless. Thanks, yeah, I, I have zero. I have zero tattoos, so that would have.
Speaker 4:It would have even been my first tattoo I was always scared like I got a rosary that like I wore one day, uh, and that's like my outline and it's for my grandma, and I was like, oh, if I wore a g-neck, you know, back in the day, like you didn't know, people judge about tattoos, yeah. So like I'm so corporate so I'm always in like in a button up and whatnot, like so many people don't know. And then one time I forgot, our ceo showed up and I was in the polo. I was like fuck, yeah, he didn't say anything. I was like, yeah, fuck it. At this point now I just rock him.
Speaker 3:I was in this for a while. I stopped right here just because I was basically in button-ups and all that. I'm remote now, but I was in person when I first got tattoos. I remember I was sitting there and my sleeve dipped down. I just remember that it was like, uh, the cfo, and he's sitting there. I saw him kind of doing this and like looking back at me and looking down and he goes and you took it. You're like, oh fuck, you saw it. I'm like I'm trying to like do this, like to try to like get it, to like fucking hide it, and then he just goes. I want to get a tattoo one day and then it just broke that ice and also kind of just shows how it has gone from being something that was taboo to something that you see people that are in all sorts of senior leadership positions that have tattoos and it's just such a more casual thing now, which I think is cool. It's crazy, obviously, if you have some fucked up tattoo of a drowning squirrel or something like that. Mark.
Speaker 3:Carden is fucking doing that Someone's, obviously, if you have some fucked up tattoo of a drowning squirrel or something, like that, mark. Carter.
Speaker 4:Mark Carter is fucking doing that.
Speaker 4:Someone give me enough money, I will get that tattoo. Okay, you guys heard that right. Yeah, I made it where my watch would cover and I actually pay for watches. Now I'm actually never going to wear them again, Probably as soon as this one dies and it's dying. I'm going to go back to regular watches, Like I want less notifications on stuff. I want to go back. I appreciate like what goes into making a watch and all that. So I'm going to go back to like a regular watch but actually like expose my tattoos in the office like I don't know. I just felt like I'm again like screw it. I know other people are probably judgmental or thinking about the same thing, so I was like, hey, I'm gonna just rock more polos around the office and a lot more people. It's more like acceptable to see tattoos around and yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3:It definitely is. I think that's another kind of hobby too is that I've been thinking about getting into, because there's some really fantastic fucking watches out there, like watches or something. I mean there's instagram pages. Speaking to instagram, there's instagram pages that are, you know, whiskey and watches and things like that. Or there's a guy that um is a friend of mine, gregor, uh scotsman, uh time for a dram, and he always has like different kind of scott yeah, it's a scotches and he always has like different kind of things on. It's just, it's such a cool thing. There's some just beautiful designs, so we know as soon as, because everyone listens to us.
Speaker 4:As soon as we open up instagram, we're all gonna watch ads.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty much I was gonna say shoes, whiskey and shoes. I was gonna go down that road because I would probably geek over this one if you haven't followed Original Grain.
Speaker 4:They make some badass watches. They just did a Jack Daniels watch. They're 100% solar powered. They did some old military crates for grenades. They used those crates to build the watch. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:You saw Brian's face. Look at Brian's face.
Speaker 1:I'm fucking buying it. It doesn't matter the price, I'm going to buy it.
Speaker 3:That's so cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're sick Dude. I'm a big fan of them. They've done some great stuff and hold on, yeah. So like there's the crates of the grenades that they did, I miss those so much into. Like that watch. Yep, I don't know, I'll have to click it but like, how badass is that watch that was so thank you, jason, for making me spend more money after I did that
Speaker 3:brand new truck I appreciate it hey, it's a.
Speaker 4:It's a forever piece, man it is.
Speaker 2:you're so right about that Whiskey will go away.
Speaker 4:Yeah, whiskey, a bottle kind of goes away. It's whatever memories you make with it. But a watch, I'm more about experience. My wife and I, we don't ever get enough. We're like let's go somewhere, let's do this Our anniversary. We always go somewhere. It's like, okay, we run a point in our life Like, hey, if you want shoes, buy your own shoes. Like you want to close by your own. Like, hey, I'll give you flowers for a couple of times here and there. But I'm like let's go to Europe, let's go somewhere. We spent differently. Yeah, it's, it's more expensive and it's a shorter time, but like being able to be like, yeah, I went to Prague, I went to Italy, I went to Madrid, I went to Mykonos. Like, yeah, that's way better than any gift that she would buy me or I would buy her well experiences build relationship too.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's just peace out kids yeah they do.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 4:I seriously would go back to Prague. Prague is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I lived through you when you and your wife went to.
Speaker 4:Spain. Yeah, we just did Madrid for years.
Speaker 2:I totally was living through you guys in that.
Speaker 4:There were some beautiful photos um, I'd probably say, uh, the amalfi coast in italy is somewhere I really want to go. Um, I know it sounds stupid, but I really want to do like an alaskan cruise, like and I have no desire to get not stupid at all, that's awesome. Like I feel like cruises are the dumbest thing personally, like I'm also like a big delta guy, so like I'd rather just fly and get miles. Like I don't want to be on a dirty ass bus really that floats reach. Yeah, I really want to like just see um paris. I just don't really care to see um, I've been it's. Yeah, they don't like us, like not that good.
Speaker 1:So no, and if you're going, we don't want to offend everybody on here jason comes out in the entire country remember we were friends.
Speaker 4:And let's just from France.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He said so it's sponsored by nobody, because we're not going to save a sponsor after this. Thank you.
Speaker 4:This is like a baguette company, yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, there's some fucking French guy going, we, we. He just insulted.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, adrian we're.
Speaker 1:He just insulted me oh no, oh shit, adrian, we're the sense of something I'm not sure if it's reason, but it's something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys are worried about me.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 4:Like everywhere. Just dude, I think that's the best part. Like my wife and I said like we would have never thought of going to Prague, but because my buddy got married there, we're like hell yeah. And we were there we keep talking about Prague's sick. We tell anyone we should go in here and play Prague, Go to Prague.
Speaker 1:Yeah my dad, have you guys been to South Africa yet? No, no, oh, you're talking about an experience I've never had in my life. It's absolutely amazing. Going up and petting giraffes and then shooting other shit. He goes petting giraffes and then shooting them. I pet a giraffe but I didn't shoot it, so let's go off of that first.
Speaker 1:Okay good, I love you and freezers, but a lot of the meat I donated back to the local tribe. But a lot of the meat I donated back to the local tribe. So all the local tribes were able to eat and they got probably 2,000, 3,000 pounds of meat just from me going out and hunting. Nice, that's awesome. I love that. I'm not saying I didn't keep the tenderloins, but they got the rest of the meat.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's cool man.
Speaker 4:Look, I get people's stamps, honey and whatnot, but like it's a circle of life, like, sorry, I'm not going to eat a steak that grows in the ground, no, I want a cow, sorry, yep.
Speaker 2:Amen, I'm right there with you Anytime you want to come up, I'll bring you elk hunting Dude.
Speaker 4:You will.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, no we gotta make that happen, for sure I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't need to hunt, I'd just like to have a steak elk steak on my plate. Is that okay?
Speaker 1:I still probably have a half a freezer full of elk from last year, so we're yes, that means I get to have elk steak how'd you uh, how'd you like madrid?
Speaker 3:I actually almost moved there. Um, in 2021, I was gonna live there for a year. My, uh, I was, uh, my ex was a teacher and she was gonna go over there and, uh, do uh teach english to uh spanish. Um, it ended up falling through. She got a better um offer in boulder, but, um, I had the. The fucking funny thing is, the first thing I did when I found out I was going to go there is I found all the local whiskey stores. That was my first move. I'm like I have to find. There's a beautiful store out there. I think I know what it is. I followed along. It's something, yeah, something special. And then I found a whiskey group in Madrid and I joined it and I was like I was talking with them. I'm like I was like I was talking with them. I'm like I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna be there, and then I didn't know how did you like it?
Speaker 4:loved it? Um, yeah, people forget like Europe. Um, breakfast isn't really a thing you don't go out to like 11 am and then it's like a late lunch and then literally the town shuts down for siestas like that's a legit thing. Like one to four it's dead. Like unless you're out and about, you're a tourist like no one else is like out and about.
Speaker 4:Like, um, and then dinner doesn't kick off till like 9, 30, 10, so like the time is different from from what, uh, from like a normal, like lifestyle is. But like I loved it where everything's walkable, it's super clean city, tons of bars. They're really well known for cocktails and whatnot. There's seafoods to the roof Like the octopus is to die for. It's a weather was great when we're out there for new year, so like it wasn't cold by any means, like long sleeve shirt. I loved it, man, it was great. Um, I would I kind of wish we spent a little more time. We went a little more coastal as well. Like made me try to get down to, um, uh, barcelona, like style you try to get to a water something, um, but madrid was great and it was such a quick trip like we literally went for new year's because it was it's like the number two or three spot to be in the world for new year's, um, so it's just a big party town, man it is, yeah, yeah, our plan.
Speaker 3:I think our plan was originally to be in madrid, but we wanted to go down to oviato, um, just because that's a beautiful little place too. And, yeah, like you said, barcelona down there on the coast it's uh. Yeah, I wish, I wish it would have happened, but I'm going to hopefully get out there in the next couple of years. I've got a Scotland trip planned for next year.
Speaker 4:Sweet Small world, sean from Pinhook. His wife lived in Madrid. He was texting me places to go, telling me where to eat and whatnot.
Speaker 3:The oldest restaurant in the world is in Madrid.
Speaker 4:They have bottle of wine from the 1700s. That's right. You go down the cellar, it's wine way older than Titanic. The bottles are disintegrating in a way because it's so long.
Speaker 1:Well, fuck, now I need to go.
Speaker 4:With a watch. You're going to drive your new truck to the airport.
Speaker 1:You're going to bring your new truck to the airport. You're going to bring your friends.
Speaker 4:I mean, there's already talks, I'm going to get a tattoo with Mark Carter or an old Carter.
Speaker 3:This is a full on cartoon, this whole episode it's going to turn into one of those 30 second short Tom and Jerry dead squirrel things. We still got time. What do you think of the American single malt kind of movement, because I know you've been posting about it and have had a couple and I think kind of trying to bring it back from international stuff to right here in our backyards there's a lot, a lot of ones popping up, a lot of good ones, a lot of really good ones, man.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I just posted about Westford. They've secretly been doing it Not secretly, but over 20 years now. They've been doing American Singapore really well with a brew brew brewery kind of style vibe and just some amazing finishes. Man like, some of the stuff they're doing is absolutely ridiculous. I'll say there's some also some okay ones, that are struggling on it. Tent Mountain has a fantastic one. Not just I would say that if Brian wasn't here, I think Tent Mountain is probably one of the better products. It's definitely their American Single Malt. It is fantastic, thank you.
Speaker 4:I think American Single Malt is something that you give it a little more time and people are more receptive instead of being on the buzz of whiskey and bourbon. American Single Malt will slowly be the big boom that I think these distillers really want to be once they find a fine tune in their craft, because you have a lot of people that have been doing it for a long time that are doing it well. We have a lot of people that are doing it probably not for the right reasons right now, just because they're trying to be stay with the trend. Yeah, exactly right, not putting their full effort into it. I think that's a healthy way of saying that, not try to downplay anyone.
Speaker 4:Like one thing always people ask like hey, you know you never post a bad baby glenn review. And for me, like that's not what I ever want to do. Like I want to be something that is approachable, you know, fun engaging. Um, I think too many people work behind the scenes at these distilleries, um, that make a living from these distilleries. If I don't like it, I just won't post it.
Speaker 4:To be fair, like this is uh, you know, but if I post this because I truly like it, um, what does? What good does it do? Like I'll pick on a mean if I hated this. Why would I do 15 seconds to just talk bad about it? What good does it do? I'll pick on Amin If I hated this. Why would I do 15 seconds to just talk bad about it? What good does it do me? What good does it do them? I'd rather just hey, if I'm looking for a bottle that I should get someone. Hey, I'm going to look at Jason. You're not going to have any negative bottle on there. Y'all kind of blantons all day, but that's just because it's fun, yeah it is fun to make fun of them, people that are working.
Speaker 2:They're not really hurting, are they? Yeah?
Speaker 4:People that are hardworking, like filling these bottles, handwriting labels, you know, distilling, moving barrels around, doing tours Like there's no good. So I just I won't do it Like that's yeah, yeah it. I just I won't do it Like that's yeah. I say, oh, you don't post anything negative. I'm like don't need to, Don't come to my page if you want something negative.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, and I think, like you, you and like, obviously you know really everybody in here and everybody that does reviews and talks about whiskey on their Instagram page, read between the lines, Like if we're not, we have a lot of whiskey and we try a lot of whiskey every single week. If we're not talking about them, that's probably you know, there's a reason for it and that's just personal choice, right, like. That doesn't mean that it's bad.
Speaker 2:I could not like something that Brian loves or that Adrian loves, or that you, jason, that you like and all I think not to interrupt you, Martin, sorry, but the point I would say is people follow certain people because you figure out, oh, I like what this person likes and I'm going to follow what they're doing because they're going to post about what they like and I tend to like what they like. I mean, I'm not going to sit here and act like I don't have people in the back of my mind that.
Speaker 4:I agree, I'm one of the few people I think on Instagram that like Jephthah Creed and I think what they're doing with some of their stuff is very tasty. And that's just me personally. And I know there's a little sidebar some other content creators that I'll call them out Tyler, louisville bourbon buzz and chad, my daily bourbon. We agree, we are probably the oddballs of some people on instagram that like what that butcher corn does and like it's a fantastic product. And I think some people are just so caught up sometimes in what a traditional bourbon might be that just because someone does a different grain and they just get this mindset that it's different. It's like blind it and I bet you'll be more surprised.
Speaker 1:So, bringing back to Jethro Creek, you brought something up exciting. They're coming on the podcast soon, oh sweet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, have you been there? It is beautiful. I haven't been there, absolutely beautiful. Yeah, have you been there? It is beautiful? I haven't been there. Absolutely beautiful. Like they have, uh, in this rick house where they have like a barrel, they do like barrel tastings there you're literally on leather chair. You have this cowhide blanket behind you sick I, I'll be, I'll be completely transparent.
Speaker 2:I've never tried any, so.
Speaker 4:That's fine, as long as you're open to it. I'm extremely open-minded, very open-minded individual, sometimes shooting this video and you're going to be like are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 3:He's about to pull out a cowhide video right now.
Speaker 2:Were you there with Dan.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I remember, I think, seeing these chairs lined up, these other chairs lined up.
Speaker 4:Here's a First of all. There's the inside. This is absolutely beautiful. Oh, that's gorgeous Outside window looking into the distillery room Inside their shopping area and their bar.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But like literally, tell me that's not the best thing you ever seen.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow. Yeah, I remember these videos. I remember you guys. I remember you, dan. Maybe maybe it was Dan's video, but I thought I saw these videos.
Speaker 4:I would sleep there. You can't have a cigar in there because it's going to blow up. That is probably the best thing to ever do is have a whiskey, leather chair, a blanket and a bunch of barrels. It's so cool. I'm stealing that.
Speaker 2:I am stealing.
Speaker 4:That I am sorry. I remember texting Colby. I'm like, if you don't have leather chairs by the time I'm there, you're doing it wrong yeah.
Speaker 1:We have a leather couch right now, but I think we need to expand into more territories. So we're building our first Rick house. It'll be up by the beginning of the fall, and now I know exactly what I'm going to put in the middle of it.
Speaker 3:Just like a big cowhide rug. No, it's going to be a whole lounge. You know what it would be. I was going to say you're going to walk and it's going to be a fucking squirrel, Just like a really small rug, Like that big. You're like the fuck.
Speaker 1:No, it's not gonna be a squirrel it's gonna.
Speaker 4:It's a jackalope, but a jackalope squirrel, yeah, oh yeah, I like one of my favorite cocktails in jet. The creator is like this s'mores old-fashioned. Oh, I've heard about that, yeah like they're crushing the man like they're. They're weeded. It's fantastic. Uh, my, I got a bottle arriving tomorrow that I'm stoked about.
Speaker 1:Is there eight year or 6 year, I forget what year, it is right now, yeah it's their 8 year and it's let me pull it up, I just had them on it's their weeded bourbon. It's a brand new release they're doing and now I can't fight it.
Speaker 4:They have a badass military thing as well. One of the guys who does River City with us, whiskey Dorm. He was super excited about what they're doing for the military. He was able to sign the military barrel, the red water barrel they have. So that goes back to like I'd rather support those kind of people that are doing some different, unique things than stand in line for a bottle of distillery.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely Well, jason, I don't want to interrupt, but I'm going to interrupt and I'm going to say thank you for coming on. I'm going to say thank you to our host, tenth Mountain Whiskey. You can find them on Tenth MTN Whiskey, on all social media platforms, as well as TenthWhis whiskeycom, and go ahead and buy their products. You can get them in 40 different states through online distribution, as well as 26 states across the country through regular distribution. If you have any questions, please reach out to 10th whiskeycom and we'll answer all your questions. Jason, this was an honor, this was a pleasure. It's always a great time talking to you. Cheers, buddy, cheers. And now we know how a bourbon with friends can change the world. Have a great night, everybody, or a great day.
Speaker 4:Cheers guys, See you.
