Curious about how to conquer this week's mythic affixes or want to relive the glory days of the Cataclysm expansion? Tune in to Pig and Whistle Tales from Azeroth as we dive into the latest happenings in World of Warcraft! We kick off with the must-know weekly news, from current world bosses to the exciting Mr. Pandaria Time Walking event and the quirky Cooking Impossible brawl. Plus, we’ll arm you with the essential tips to handle the Spiteful, Volcanic, and Fortified mythic affixes. As we delve deeper into our discussion, brace yourself for our unapologetically candid take on Cataclysm, focusing on the revamped questing zones and cinematic narratives that make this expansion a unique adventure despite mixed community reactions.
But that’s not all! In our next segment, we emphasize the importance of skill and strategy in World of Warcraft Classic, especially as players face the challenges of Cataclysm content. Hear firsthand about our guild’s exhilarating first raid night in Bastion of Twilight, where we break down the mechanics and share our successful strategies for each boss fight. This episode isn’t just about defeating the toughest foes—it's about celebrating the camaraderie and the sheer fun of the game. Whether you’re a seasoned raider or a newcomer, our insights will help you enhance your WoW experience while relishing the journey with friends. Don't miss out on these invaluable tips and heartfelt stories!
Hope you all enjoy and hope you relate to any of these stories. And I will speak to you all in the next episode!
Curious about how to conquer this week's mythic affixes or want to relive the glory days of the Cataclysm expansion? Tune in to Pig and Whistle Tales from Azeroth as we dive into the latest happenings in World of Warcraft! We kick off with the must-know weekly news, from current world bosses to the exciting Mr. Pandaria Time Walking event and the quirky Cooking Impossible brawl. Plus, we’ll arm you with the essential tips to handle the Spiteful, Volcanic, and Fortified mythic affixes. As we delve deeper into our discussion, brace yourself for our unapologetically candid take on Cataclysm, focusing on the revamped questing zones and cinematic narratives that make this expansion a unique adventure despite mixed community reactions.
But that’s not all! In our next segment, we emphasize the importance of skill and strategy in World of Warcraft Classic, especially as players face the challenges of Cataclysm content. Hear firsthand about our guild’s exhilarating first raid night in Bastion of Twilight, where we break down the mechanics and share our successful strategies for each boss fight. This episode isn’t just about defeating the toughest foes—it's about celebrating the camaraderie and the sheer fun of the game. Whether you’re a seasoned raider or a newcomer, our insights will help you enhance your WoW experience while relishing the journey with friends. Don't miss out on these invaluable tips and heartfelt stories!
Hope you all enjoy and hope you relate to any of these stories. And I will speak to you all in the next episode!
Thank you, hello and welcome to the Pig and Whistle Tales from Azeroth. As always here at the Pig and Whistle Inn in Stormwind, I go for a variety of subjects with regards to World of Warcraft. I grab a bottle or a pint, sit back and enjoy this episode. We'll be looking over Cataclysm mainly because the first time that I did a raid in Cataclysm was the week that had just gone by and I wanted to give my thoughts on it, how the raiding experience was. Are people taking WoW a bit too seriously? In classic WoW you know all them bits and bobs. But let's start off with the weekly news. As always, we have basricron, zikali, elders and aerostar as your world bosses for the week. Basricron and the vault of the incarnates is it your dreaming raid? I, I think it's dreaming raid. I think it is um, but this is where the item level of the items in the raid and the world boss are scaled up to this season's current item level. So make sure that you hop over there and do them sort of activities.
Speaker 1:
Mr Pandaria, time Walking is your bonus event for the week. This is simply. You can hop into Mr Pandaria Dungeons such as Temple of the Jade Serpent. You have Siege of Nizoro, nizdormu, nizdormu's the dragon, nizarau, the big ox thing you know them sort of dungeons, and you get time-walking currency for it. This means that you can buy certain mounts, pets, toys, reputations from the vendor in Mists of Pandaria. It's a little sort of helm symbol, a blue helm symbol. You'll notice it on the map if you go over to Pandaria.
Speaker 1:
Cooking Impossible is your brawl for the week. This is simply where you collect 20 ingredients and put them into your faction's pot. Essentially, the first faction to get 20 ingredients in their cooking pot wins. You can steal opposing factions' ingredients by simply killing them, picking them up and taking them to your pot instead. Very simple, it's really quirky and quite fun, I'm not going to lie. So it's worth doing.
Speaker 1:
Spiteful, volcanic and fortified are your mythic fixes for the week. Spiteful when you kill a mob, a spiteful shade will appear. You simply kite these, or just see them, or kill them, but they don't die off by themselves, so just don't get hit by them. That's the only thing that you should be able to do. They will fixate on a player, so the tank cannot pick these up. Just make sure you're paying attention. Volcanic essentially small volcanoes will erupt underneath your feet and you want to simply sidestep these and do not get hit by them. It's best not to, because it will just interrupt your dps rotation means that less you do, less damage, and it can interrupt spell casting hit by it whilst casting so it's not always fun. And finally, fortified, the non-boss enemies and the mobs that they summon have increased health and damage. So make sure you bring a talent build that can accommodate that.
Speaker 1:
So Cataclysm the expansion, has been out for about a month now, and what do I have to say about it? The leveling isn't as bad as what people make it out to be. I think the leveling itself is what people deemed as one of the worst qualities of Cataclysm. In my opinion, it's actually not a bad feature of Cataclysm. The reason people hated it was because it took the old world of world of warcraft and it remolded and reshaped it into something that people were unfamiliar with. And the unfamiliar unfamiliarity, yeah isn't something that a lot of people enjoy. They like to enjoy the comforts of.
Speaker 1:
Okay, I've been playing this expansion or this type of World of Warcraft for about six years since yeah, since classic to cataclysm. For about six years that old world was out. Now suddenly you have a new world revamp with new quests, activities to do, and people didn't enjoy it, which is fair enough. I don't like change either. Didn't enjoy it, which is fair enough. I don't like change either, um, but if you look at it from a questing point of view, it's very linear, which I'm not too upset about. I wish they had a bit more sort of you know, you can go off and do these sort of bits, but these zones are very much linear zones, um, in terms of questing.
Speaker 1:
So, uh, you do a little questing hub here and then you go on to the next one from a breadcrumb breadcrumb trail quest and then you go on to the next one from a breadcrumb trail quest and then you do some quests over there, do some quests there, you know. So on and so forth. The stories that they're trying to tell in the zones are really cool, though you get the little cinematics in, like Vashir, where you get taken away by Naga and you're constantly having to know find the people that were taken. Then you're talking to whatever this giant like sea turtle monster thing is. You know all of that stuff. Um, fun fact about them sea turtles in bashir, the eyes of them turtles are mini cthuns. They're mini cthun models. So if you didn't know, now you know, go up to them and have a look at their eye. It is just C'Thun. It is the eyeball of C'Thun. It's amazing to see. But yeah, back to it anyway.
Speaker 1:
Now, the questing is very good. I rate it very much and I think that it gets a lot of stick, purely because people were nostalgic about the old World of Warcraft, not because of the quests themselves being shit or anything of the sort. If anything, they are just the same old copy and pasted quests like go kill these things and go collect this and then go to this point and use this item. You know they're all the same quests at the end of the day, aren't they? It's just, you get familiar. You get very familiar with the layout of the land, essentially going through classic Rath of the Lich King.
Speaker 1:
But when you get to max level, the heroics aren't necessarily the most enjoyable thing. I do have to accept that. Going from wrath of the lich king, where you had eight months of icy and you had people absolutely steamrolling dungeons, to where people actually can wipe on dungeon if they aren't kicking or standing shit or anything along them lines, you know it's one of them things. It happens. People need to get used to that. I certainly still need to get used to it.
Speaker 1:
But I play retail. I play more retail than what a lot of classic players do as well, so, or a lot more than what classic players do. So I'm used to like kicking things or CCing things or not standing shit. That's very obviously shit that you shouldn't stand in. Um, classic players have not done this, so funny stories. Actually, I've recently started enjoying resto shaman a lot more restoration shaman, being a healer. Now I enjoy my healing. Not many people know this about me, but I enjoy my healing. I have my alt sort of DPS on retail and classic, but healing has always been a very big side project of mine. Essentially, I have healers on retail and classic, but if people stand in stuff, that is very avoidable. So take example. Take, for example, the last boss of shadowfang keep.
Speaker 1:
You have a. Two simple mechanics. You have a pistol barrage and a cursed bullet. First bullet you can kick. Don't kick it because they don't have the fast enough reaction time. I'm a boomkin, so I can't kick it. Now, if I'm a shaman, I will try and kick it when possible, um, but I'm usually in the middle of a heel and I can't be asked to like cancel it really. Plus, I can just decurse the person who gets the curse bullet. That's fine, I don't care about the curse bullet, but the barrage.
Speaker 1:
Now, the barrage does about 20 to 30k, you know, anywhere between that. Per tick, an average player that's in decent gear has about 110 to 130k health. So how much damage would that be? Let's go on the high end, because you know the high end means that they die quicker, right, 30k. You're looking at potentially three ticks actually, no, four ticks of damage from this barrage to kill you. Okay, how often does this barrage tick? Every like 0.5 seconds, you know, or 0.2 seconds. Is it an insta-hit? No, every two seconds, two to two and a half seconds, I believe it is. It will deal damage. So it will take you a total of let's go with two seconds, eight seconds to die from this mechanic. Eight seconds, now, eight seconds is a long time in Warcraft If you cannot move out of a barrage that is covering, let's say, you've got 360 degrees of the boss, the barrage.
Speaker 1:
He throws it out in front of him and it's a, I would say, less than 45 degree angle. I would say it's more 35 degree angle. So he covers 35 degrees of 360 degrees around him of 360 degrees around him. If you cannot move out of that 30 degree angle in eight seconds, you do not deserve healing. I let people die who get hit by dumb mechanics because that way they will learn. You shouldn't babysit people who get hit by these mechanics because it's not good for them to learn.
Speaker 1:
It's very simple move out of the shit that's killing you. You know, if you kick stuff in the dungeon, it helps your healers. It means your healers don't have to struggle as much. I've always known this, even when playing dps. People don't seem to understand that kicking stuff and stopping cars going through will greatly reduce the like incoming damage that the group is taking as a whole. Therefore, your healer is happier. Therefore he will heal you more and be happier to try and save you when you do dumb shit. But if you do dumb shit before you're helping out your healer, I really implore that healers don't save their like dps or even tank. If your tank is standing in that sort of shit, taking unnecessary damage when they're already tanking, I still let them die.
Speaker 1:
Is this griefing? Some people might think it is something. Might think it is. I would say it's griefing for standing in the avoidable damage. Now don't get me wrong. There's a lot of things that aren't avoidable. Right stuff happens as well and I understand that. Like if someone moves out of the like uh cone in front of them, like immediately the first time, but it takes a couple seconds to get out the second time. You know, sometimes you can just have a brain fart and it happens. I'm not going to hold that against them. I will heal them if I see them actively moving out of it and stuff. But people who just stand there and don't care, I'm not healing you. This has happened to me in two different instances of Shadowfang. This also happened to me in what is it?
Speaker 1:
Grim Batol, that dungeon. So in Grim Batol, on the final boss, he has a few mechanics. He has something that he fires out from himself, which you can dodge. By the way, it is something that is sent from the boss and flies through the air. The further away you are, the longer it takes to get to you. So move out of the way of it. Um, he summons, adds at the back of the room very simple, right, kill the ads. And people don't even know that and the final mechanic is there is a circle in the ground, like in the middle of the ground when he's charging something up.
Speaker 1:
Do you go to the circle or don't you? Now, usually going to the circle is bad. In this case, it's your only safe spot. But when you see everyone else running to this circle, what would you think to do? Stand there and not go to the circle, or go to the circle where everyone else is. And this mage chose to not do that, and I actively saw him not doing it. So I let him die. I, I straight up, let him died and say please just get into the circle next time. And in, in fairness and credit to him. He didn't moan, he didn't cry about it. He simply said yeah, sorry, it's my bad, because I don't think he realized that I wasn't healing him throughout that. But you know, that's besides the point. He learned a lesson there. I guarantee you that when he next goes in that dungeon, he will know exactly what to do, which is crazy, isn't it? It's crazy how people pick it up from fucking up. You know it's. It's really not rocket science, it just isn't rocket. So I don't know what to tell you. You've got to teach people a lesson in wow by letting them die.
Speaker 1:
If you're a healer, I think sometimes you do have to be ruthless as a healer and let people die. It is one of them things. It's a very satisfying thing for me. I'm not going to lie, because I have their life in my hand and if they're doing dumb shit, like dumb shit, that's a very avoidable and, you know, not needed. I will not heal you Because Resto Shaman, like quick healing, will eat up my mana very quickly. I can do very good consistent healing, like while keeping my mana up, but if you need me to heal you very quickly, that's Healing Surge and I'm really not going to expend too many of them because it does eat away at my mana. But you know it is what it is. A lot of people are just really dense when it comes to heroics. They just aren't trying.
Speaker 1:
And for those who do play classic and are listening use your kicks. Every single kick is off a global cooldown. You can use it, kick often and everything that you can, unless you're instructed to not kick. Okay, because there are some fights where you do not kick something that is being casted, one of them being in a raid in the blackwing descent raid um, which is the aberrations boss that you know spawns mobs. So please use your kicks. It will help. Everyone would love you for it, the heater especially. But it's just good to start getting used to it because you need to.
Speaker 1:
If you're carrying on with classic, you'll need to know how to use a kick. You need to know how to use all of your cooldowns effectively, where to run the position. You'll need to start building that up because we're going to get to fireland soon and then it'll go into miss a pandaria, um classic, and then it will go into wall of the drain or so on, so forth. You know it's crazy, it's absolutely crazy to think, isn't it? I don't know, I really don't know. People need to get on it with classic Cataclysm. It isn't Wrath, it is completely different. It is a step up. And those who do the bare minimum in classic TPC and Wrath, you notice a lot more in Cata because they aren't at the same level. They just aren't. I'm sorry, it's one of them things. Those who really slacked in raiding and got carried by gear or their gear, whatever it might be, really start to show in kata. And you need to up your own game right, otherwise you're gonna fuck around and you're gonna mess it up for your guild or raid group or whatever it might be.
Speaker 1:
Now let's get on to the main part, which is the raids. The raids themselves are very good. I actually really enjoyed them. So we did as a guild our very first raid night, back in back what am I trying to say? Our very first raid night. And we started in Bastion of Twilight. The very first couple packs we wiped, because we're trying to be ambitious, we're trying to see what the mobs do and we're essentially just going hell for leather. We wiped, but it's one of two wipes that we had in the evening or something like that. But Bastion of Twilight not too bad of a raid. I think that it would have been a bit more boring, in my honest opinion. Bastion of Twilight I thought it was going to be kind of a shittier raid.
Speaker 1:
But you know the first boss, oh my God. The first boss is very simple. It's a tank swap. Every now and again, depending on the dragons, there's different. You know things that you have to do, but tank and kill everything very easy. Um, the second boss, you know, very simple. You just dodge some dragon mechanics as per usual, and you know someone moves out with a debuff, someone, then you stack so that you don't get, you know, detonated and killed or bits and bobs like that.
Speaker 1:
Third boss was a bit trickier, um, but one was the third boss. Yeah, the third boss was like the council fight and the council fight. Now, I've always had a problem with these fights, but essentially when you have a certain council member up or the last two council members up you need they will do a certain ability that you need to be having a buff on yourself. So one will cast a grounding effect you need to be up in the air and the other will cast a static effect where you need to be grounded. Um, and my brain just can't work with that for some reason, really really can't. It needs to be the opposite. Um, I, I just can't do it, my brain just doesn't work with it, which is quite funny. Now, that one was a bit tricky for me, but again, we just cleared it. No real issues. And Cho'Gall, again a bit scruffy.
Speaker 1:
It's all about seeing it for the first time and knowing, oh, okay, this is what we can definitely do better. But yeah, again, first time, very simple, did it all on normal because we wanted to see the bosses, essentially, and have fun. Now, the problem that people will take from this is something that I mentioned a couple of days ago with the forum post that oh my God, you're not doing it on heroic immediately. Why not? Because we don't care. We don't care if it ago with the forum post that, oh my god, you're not doing it on heroic immediately. Why not? Because we don't care. We don't care if it's not heroic or not.
Speaker 1:
We enjoy our time together, like as a guild. We spent a few hours clearing a raid and when we got to neff, like normal, we struggled a bit. We had our wipes and we didn't kill him that night. But we managed to do all of Bastion, of Twilight, all of Blackwing Descent apart from Nefarian, like on that one evening. And it's amazing. And now we can go back to the drawing board and see what ones we can do heroic on and stuff.
Speaker 1:
I think that the raids themselves and the whole sort of oh my God, you need to only do heroic to be the best in the game you don't like. Our guild is very much comprised of older people playing and I think that it is a very enjoyable experience to have that experience rather than someone who's like what, like early 20s or late teens even, and basically they're trying to just speed run it, even though they're the same sort of skill rating as the people that we have in our guild, because, yes, you have maybe a bit more reflexes and stuff for it. But the thing is you're not as good as you think you are. Okay, now everyone can say like they're amazing and people will always be like oh, you definitely aren't as good as you are. A lot of people probably think I'm not as good as I am, but you know, that's my own opinion. I think I am. But it's about actually enjoying the time that you're spending in the raid. You're spending in the raid.
Speaker 1:
I have spent so much time in a raid, bored, senseless, out of my mind and pissed off, with one or two people potentially in a raid every now and again and it brings the rate or it gives the raid a bit of a sour taste in your mouth. Essentially, you you don't want to go back to that raid, you don't want to do it anymore and you might just need a week off. But then in classic sometimes you get left behind with uh like raid gear and stuff when it was classic. Classic like molten core, but blackwing lair, etc. Etc. Um, yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1:
It's crazy that so many people go for the like route of okay, I've got to clear these raids this week. How am I going to do it? I need a full heroic group. I need them at the best item level possible and I need them full, like linking achievements. Six out of six heroic Okay, this is what we have to do.
Speaker 1:
And yet we just turn up like, oh hi guys, haven't seen you for a while. Yeah, let's trundle along and we just crack through it, normal. And the thing is we chill along the way, we have discussions, we fuck around, you know, we try and push the boundaries of what happens. Like when we got to after the first boss, there's a sort of um gauntlet run, okay, and these uh, what are they? Elementals are run up the stairs.
Speaker 1:
Now, no one knew what these elementals did. We were just like, oh, it's coming towards us, let's just bring it into the main group of mobs and cleave it down. As soon as it ran into the group, it detonates and it flung about two or three people off the edge down to a lava pit and killed them. Like why would anyone want to be super try hard about it. It's a game, yeah, and I bet we had a better memory of that elemental than everyone else did where their raid leader went oh yeah, these elementals need to die. Yeah, range do. And yet we walked in, got blown up by an elemental, flung into lava, died, and then we're like, oh, we should have probably killed that thing before it got close then. So that's a learning experience and that's a memory that I'll remember, and we make these memories every week, essentially, whereas a lot of the raiding guilds who are just yep, welcome to a heroic raiding, shut up everyone and this is your life. For a few hours you're quiet, you are spoken when spoken to. It's like school. It's crazy. You have to put up your hand to ask the raid leader if you want to go and take a piss probably it's.
Speaker 1:
People need to get into the habit of playing WoW as just a game again and not actually playing it as though they're in an e-sport like 24-7. Like, yes, by all means, do your damage perfectly, do your gear perfectly, but have fun in doing so. So that's where a lot of the problems are, you know, happening now. There's just not a lot of fun in the game, or people are trying to like, not have fun in the game. Almost they're actively trying to just make it super, try hard. And that's where a lot of the oh my god, god, wow is dead. Comments come from. Because it's these people who are just doing heroic six out of six. Because you want everyone to shut up, listen, and I want my gear over, I want you know the memories of playing the game.
Speaker 1:
It's crazy to think, it is absolutely crazy to think, but you know, it is what it is. That's all you can say. Really, I think Cataclysm is going to be really good. I, that's all you can say. Really, I think Cataclysm is going to be really good. I think people will look back on it very fondly.
Speaker 1:
I think people might look back on it more fondly than Wrath, in my honest opinion, depending on how long they keep Cataclysm going. If they do Cataclysm for a year in total, so a couple months of each raid, maybe something along them lines, not even a couple months, like a couple months of each raid, maybe something along them lines, not even a couple months like a few months. That way it gives people, you know, time to do the legendaries and all of that bits and bobs, then I think it will look back, be looked back more fondly than Wrath Classic, because ICC for eight months is hell. Older War for about six to eight months is hell. It shouldn't have happened, and Blizzard know that it shouldn't have happened and blizzard know that it shouldn't have happened. Hence why they've cut down on cataclysm, not because it's a shitter expansion even though in my opinion I still think that it's a shitter expansion um, but because they fucked up with how long icc was going on for and older are the raids and stuff like that was going on for.
Speaker 1:
But I think cataclysm will be up there and I think people will have a better outlook on it, seeing it for what it actually, rather than a lot of people who were like, oh my god, like six years of World of Warcraft has just changed for no reason. What have you done, blizzard? Because they revamped it. You know, I just don't get it. I think that it is very stupid to have that sort of mindset and you should at least give Cataclysm a go, in my honest opinion. But that is where I will end it for this episode. Thank you all very much for listening. Do check out all of the socials down below Constant stuff happening over there. But once again, thank you all very much and go, eval a friend, goodbye all, thank you.
