"There comes a watershed moment, when you leave your traditional mindset behind." In this episode, Katie interviews David Perkins, a veteran church planter and one of our New Episcopal Community coaches. He talks about a variety of conversions he had to undergo - like giving up on worrying about the fate of people's eternal souls and becoming more concerned about their current well-being, and having to cast off his expectations of the way church "should be." David also addresses the tension between "attractional" and "relational" church, and the ways we measure success.
"There comes a watershed moment, when you leave your traditional mindset behind." In this episode, Katie interviews David Perkins, a veteran church planter and one of our New Episcopal Community coaches. He talks about a variety of conversions he had to undergo - like giving up on worrying about the fate of people's eternal souls and becoming more concerned about their current well-being, and having to cast off his expectations of the way church "should be." David also addresses the tension between "attractional" and "relational" church, and the ways we measure success.