Interview W Personal Trainer NA

Sat down with my friend, my Brooklyn buddy NA, who is a former lyricist turned Personal Trainer, and who is fantastic at both. We talked about his journey into becoming a personal trainer. He also told me there is more to a personal trainer than just teaching you the right form... there is so much dopeness in this video. I hope you enjoy!

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Speaker 1 0:09

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Speaker 2 0:40

There's a lot of like. Yo, I'm telling you, man, man.

Speaker 3 0:45

Yeah, I got you I got them lights boy. We got a lot of lights going on now. Ladies, ladies and gentlemen, I am Thaddeus shade. This is seasonable cloud. I am sitting up here With a friend of mine. There's a lot of friends I have come through. I'm sitting here with a friend of mine Friend of mine His name is nay in a. Nay, he owns training day. How do you say a training day, fitness, just training day. Every day, just training day, training day, every day, as you see on On the gear right there.

Speaker 3 1:18

This is personal, personal personality training. Oh, you didn't catch that I didn't catch that when you came through the door.

Speaker 2 1:24

Yeah, that's part of the job in real life, though. In real life, Is it really like that? Explain?

Speaker 3 1:29

that real quick. What is it talk to me?

Speaker 2 1:31

um. So this is a. This is actually a one-on-one sample product of my clothing line called work clothes. Yes and um the idea behind this like personality trainer. Long story short, I realized at some point in time that One of the things that comes with building bodies is building self-esteem Emotionally strength, mental strength. It's a lot of, a lot of other components that come with that, and it also Open my eyes up to the fact that people gravitate towards working out and health and wellness. Yeah, for more than just the aesthetics. For now, looking for six packs or the birthday butts or Binks press 315 like a lot of it is an escape. I told uh, I've told a lot of people this that as a personal trainer, you're almost like a friend for hire.

Speaker 2 2:23

Hey, yeah for sure, I mean respect, respectfully though, like you know, um, and if you, you know, as a trainer, if you, if you recognize that you know, it kind of changes the dynamic, yeah, um, of the relationship and then how you approach that you don't, you don't feel like One, it should never feel like a job. You know, like we make a choice to do this. But, um, I know, sometimes, or at least I've known in the past trainers that I've talked to or come across, they didn't like dealing with clients that didn't want to come and get the work done.

Speaker 2 2:59

Hmm, Hmm which I understand, because that's what we're there for.

Speaker 3 3:02

Do you feel, do you feel kind of dr Filish, when you work in somebody? How do you feel like Definitely.

Speaker 2 3:08

And it's not, it's not all the time, yeah, it's, it's literally Spurred a moment Um. I'll never forget. You know with you know, full Um.

Speaker 3 3:20

I like how you tilt your head back like dr Hussable. I never Be talking about dr Hussable. We can't. We gotta we gotta. We gotta say bill, but we talk about dr Hussable and how he was positive and how you know, I know where that brownstone was in real life.

Speaker 2 3:37

So I but but, um, yeah, like uh, I remember the first time it happened. You know, a client came in and I didn't know that they were feeling some type of way. Right, some of you like I'm probably I don't know let's say two, three years into being a person training. Yeah, client comes in. You know, I got my, my plan ready, I know what we're doing, got them doing exercise and you know, I realized something was off. Yeah, they turned to look at me and say, hey, can we go talk? And I'm like cool. So you know, luckily this was like my last person Are you working out the?

Speaker 3 4:16

as you, can we go over here and talk training? Yeah, they won't go to the side and talk, right, and when I kind of saw, I'm like, yeah, let's, let's go talk.

Speaker 2 4:22

And then it turned into an hour of Just vulnerability, like, wow, tears, and you know, just really, like you know what I'm saying, just a lot of whatever was pent up, just pouring out.

Speaker 3 4:35

So in that moment? Did you have the the answers, or were they just looking for more of like an ear, or did they want like your, your feedback, your?

Speaker 2 4:43

advice it was. It was Wanting an ear, yeah, but then also wanted feedback too.

Speaker 3 4:48

Damn. Somebody just said hello from germany, and I do that. I do. I'll just randomly I don't know where to hello from germany. That's yes, it's right here. It's 30 cameras in here right. But yeah, they wanted your feedback.

Speaker 2 5:03

They wanted it and, um, I don't remember everything we talked about. I do remember that moment because it really stood out and now was like it was that moment and then, literally that same week it happened again. Yeah, yeah, completely different person really. And this in this person. We were like already into the workout there, they're doing the workout and they start having a moment.

Speaker 3 5:24

So the last one was before it got into it, but this one was in it. You in Right dribbin, y'all working.

Speaker 2 5:30

The first one was like hey, you know, let's, let's put this on pause. Can we go step? And when we did, we talked and then, yeah, the next one was like Just started, you know venting, and I'm like we probably should put this down. Yeah, because you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I know you sound a waiver, but it don't feel right.

Speaker 3 5:52

What's in your hands right now? I could, it could go you know, don't let your ego you do you think Having those personal connections Makes you is it? Is it make you a better trainer, or is it something that you prefer to have, you prefer to stay away from?

Speaker 2 6:10

Um, I've grown to really enjoy it and embrace it. Um, I don't, I don't look for it. You know, like I don't poke the bear and you know, question Um, but I'm, I'm prepared for it because I know it can. It's a part of the right, you know, you know the job for like better or this is. You know it happens. Yeah, um, and I also understand that People are have a really have a better understanding of the, their health overall and how Doing something whether it be a hike, going to the gym, playing a sport, whatever that is a way of that's therapeutic for sure.

Speaker 2 6:52

You know, I'm saying that's, that's where that's their way of venting, of letting go. So when they have a trainer or a companion of some sort in that realm, it makes it even easier for them to want to gravitate towards that, because it's like one you have an accountability partner just for this purpose and intent. But then you also know that this person is willing to listen and you find value in what they have to say in response to that. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, and then it's just finding the happy medium, like making sure that you're letting them talk and not just trying to give them answers right away.

Speaker 3 7:27

You know what I mean. To get back to doing what you're doing exactly, it seems. It seems like Sometimes I've ran into situations similar to not working nightlife. I've had people come to me in nightlife and I'm when I'm working in the club and they you could tell that there's something on them. Right, you want to chat about it? I look around the environment, says a pair of titties over there Is an ass crack right there at a bottle. But we're gonna take time out, we're gonna have that conversation and it's loud, you know. But people, when the moment strikes, you know you people want to have that conversation because it's heavy on them and that's fantastic. I got you to be there. When those moments arise, I'm always curious like uh, um, which is the age range you train? What's the? What's the age range?

Speaker 2 8:12

It's, it's man like I've. I have, I know for sure one that's 14, or maybe he's 15 now. So like he's, like my youngest, and then I have my oldest is, or few are, like early sixties.

Speaker 3 8:29

Correct, all right, but hold on, I'm I'm gonna turn your volume up. We gonna keep going up, but All right Too loud. Can you hear yourself? No, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 2 8:40

Yeah, so, um, so yeah, 14 being the youngest um, I've had even younger than that and then like 60 early sixties right now, really Okay, yeah, so early sixties.

Speaker 3 8:51

Yeah, yeah, man, it's the conversation different. Yeah, it's got. How do you like you? You go over, you working out with the 14 year old and you jump over and you go into the 60 to the early sixties. What is that? What are the conversations like while you're working out and what are the, the mental, the uh, the mentalities of the differences between the 14 and 60 in the 60?

Speaker 2 9:13

So everything that I just said about, um, people wanting to to open up, yeah, it's the complete opposite with me. You don't know nothing. Yeah, like they could have literally just got into the worst altercation In their young life right before they walked into the gym and you would never know.

Speaker 3 9:41

Really, they are stone cold the 14 year old Wow.

Speaker 2 9:45

They come in, they literally just like you, like you got a. I was gonna say something that you're gonna have to edit it Because I already been messing with.

Speaker 3 10:00

It's fantastic.

Speaker 2 10:03

But you, but you really gotta Ask questions, yeah, hey, so how, how, how school you know are you? Are you liking this school? Yeah, that's fine. That's it. That's all you get.

Speaker 3 10:14

Do you use your questions sometimes to like Help, help them get through the set that they're doing?

Speaker 2 10:21

Um Nothing. 14 year olds no, they don't need to go straight stone, they just go.

Speaker 3 10:25

What about when you get into the the, the lady that's in her, uh?

Speaker 2 10:31

early sixties. So like the older the, my older population um older populate Okay.

Speaker 2 10:37

All right, they don't governor, governor nay, you know, I'm saying the older demographic, right? Oh, they it's more of Not asking questions not to distract them, but more encouragement. Yeah, you know what I mean and that that's really what it is. But the thing that I really and I tell them this all the time, the thing that I appreciate about them and I know that To some degree it's, it's motivating for them, as I tell them that they inspire me because they got 20 something years with me.

Speaker 3 11:10

Yeah, so I'm like yeah, and they're, they're working out and pushing through exactly. And then the things that I give them like.

Speaker 2 11:16

I know that it's challenging. I know what I'm asking them to do, or what I'm asking them to ask their bodies to do, right at this age. And you know, we, man, you, we grew up around the same era. Yeah, 60, 50 looked different, different, real different when we was 14 and 10, and you know what I'm saying like 50, 35 looked weird for sure.

Speaker 2 11:38

Yeah, man you oh, and you meant that because, it's like you uncle, my uncle, my uncle ain't doing too. You know what I mean. It's like when, if you had a uncle in his 30s, right in the 80s or the 90s, he probably didn't make the 30s look promising for any of us. None of them did right. And then we ain't talking about jail, we ain't talking about no criminal, it's just life.

Speaker 2 12:02

Yeah, yeah, you my now watch you and I watch what you eat, I watch what you drink, smoke, yeah, so I see them and I'm like this is inspiring. You know what I mean? Yeah, it Not that I didn't have hope or belief, but it I guess with not I don't have a desire to be 50, 60 yet Like I want to enjoy life right now, for sure, but I am curious to see what that looks like, especially with what I do like I'm very like.

Speaker 3 12:30

Yeah, I'm interested too, so I'm hoping I'm around when I see it. If you still gonna you look because you wear you, don't I take that back man, when I worked out what you did where the um, the Baywatch shirts.

Speaker 2 12:41

You know I'm saying never the unnecessary unnecessary store outfits you know what?

Speaker 3 12:46

they don't, they wear they, just they. That's the basis what I'm saying. You come to the gym, you walk in. You was praying baby all on yourself. I'm y'all ready to do this.

Speaker 2 12:57

I've never, but uh.

Speaker 3 13:01

Your journey in the fitness right. Uh, what got you into the, the personal training, what made you get into it?

Speaker 2 13:08

The short story is I had a stroke. I had a stroke, really had a stroke.

Speaker 3 13:15

Didn't know I had it. It happened you didn't know you had a stroke, Well is it possible?

Speaker 2 13:19

it is because the stroke that I had is called a tia I forgot what that stands for and tia, so they consider a mini stroke, but it's still a stroke, right, and so I didn't have the. You know, one side of your body just shuts down and you fall and right it literally. It happened in like small stages, right like I was. I was, so I had a regular job this time, um, and we had a meeting, I'd say regularly. Job, respectfully, was like nice.

Speaker 3 13:54

Somebody we got down to file right now. Turn this shit off right now. I'm saying my car, my shit regular, I keep my lights on with this bitch.

Speaker 2 14:01

I say that just because, like, personal training is like you know, it's different, it's like you know. But at the time I was working in the office and and finance and doing things like that, and we had a meeting. We had a meeting and so before Going to the meeting, um, I had to use the bathroom. I go on, the go in the stall, yeah, um, I, I goes in the store, I goes, I like that, right, my god right. I teach you how to work out, but I don't teach you how to talk and tell you I go, I go in there and we find out where I love it, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2 14:42

But I but I go in the stall and I close it. You know, I'm standing there and all of a sudden the vents yeah, got real loud. Oh, wow, like it it. It was almost like if these headphones Were plugged into the ventilation system and I can hear it right here.

Speaker 2 15:02

That's insane and I was like what? You know I'm in, you know I'm in the bathroom on myself trying to figure this out. So I come out and, um, I'm like what was that? That's insane, right. And you know you sound like it was right there inside your head. It's loud, it's got real loud.

Speaker 3 15:18

Wow, that's crazy, I walked out, washed my hands.

Speaker 2 15:21

I leave um Hank, one of my co-workers, the oldie gentleman from new york, big nicks fan, and um Walks out there. Hank sees me. I'm approaching the meeting. Hank says hey, did you see the game last night? What did you think? What do you think about our nicks? And I'm? And I proceeded to respond yeah, and as I'm trying to speak to him, I'm running out of words. Oh wow, you can understand. Yeah, I'm, I'm, as I'm talking to you. Imagine I'm talking and everything that I'm saying starts to fade. Like you know, I'm explaining myself Like fading of black, like just like it's like like my mouth was getting tired.

Speaker 3 15:59

Maybe no, okay, I got you, I got you. You know, it's like I.

Speaker 2 16:02

I would just, oh yeah, I said, and it was like whoa, what the what? Was that Right? And so luckily it was a crowd because we had a meeting and so the meeting was about to start. So I don't know if Hank caught on and I'm not saying that he didn't because he's older, I'm saying that because I'm saying that because it was. You know, we had to get rolling, so now Didn't pay attention to nothing in the meeting because I'm trying to figure out what happened, what's going on. Mind you, I got to get back and and speak to people for the rest of the day, so eventually that went away, but then I just my, my, my tongue felt Twice the size like it, just like a slurred.

Speaker 3 16:45

Yeah, for sure, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 16:47

Right, and then um, how old are you at the time? 29?

Speaker 3 16:50

29.

Speaker 2 16:51

Damn, yeah, exactly. So that's crazy. So, um, I get home and you know I'm Telling my wife like oh my god, like yo, like I don't know what's going on, that she's like oh yeah, I hear it Like why do you sound like that? I'm like I don't know she can tell you sounded, because I'm explain as I'm explaining that, she starts to listen.

Speaker 2 17:12

So she's like oh, why do you sound like? I don't know, maybe it's the cough syrup. So the reason why I say it's the cough syrup the night before I felt like I was coming down with something. I took a dose of robo-tussin whatever we had in the house and I'm thinking maybe it's expired.

Speaker 3 17:31

Robo-tussin.

Speaker 2 17:31

Yeah, you listen, man the tussin. Huh the tussin. Maybe it was tussin, maybe it was a night quilt.

Speaker 2 17:37

You don't know, but whatever it was, I took that and so when I'm trying to figure out what's wrong, I'm thinking was it expired? Is this a symptom of that? I never went to check, I just went to bed, woke up the next day. The other thing that I noticed, like I said, it came in stages. It was the loud sound, then the speech. Then the next thing I noticed was my hand, my left hand. It was hard to grip. It felt really weak.

Speaker 3 18:04

I can only imagine what that is it's? Weird. It's a little bit of panic.

Speaker 2 18:08

I'm sure it drenched over you is a lot of panic and the thing is everything was just so subtle Like I could still speak, but it just sounded and felt different. I could still use my left hand, but it was just limited. That's wild, so I proceeded to go to work. Go to work Hour. Later we have another meeting. Go to the meeting.

Speaker 3 18:29

You still went to work, feeling the way you was and the things that was happening, and you're okay. You still went to work.

Speaker 2 18:34

The next day.

Speaker 3 18:35

So that's us, because black folks don't like to. It could be real problems. And we don't like to. We don't like to go to the hospital. We'll do everything to avoid that. Yeah Well, yeah, exactly, it's got to be extreme extreme for us to be like you know what man.

Speaker 2 18:50

let me go ahead and see what's going on and the other thing is, at the time, the reason why I didn't even think to be precautious and maybe something's wrong is like my youngest son was just born five months prior. But then what's?

Speaker 3 19:12

your youngest son's name.

Speaker 2 19:13

Oh, I call him gummy bear. Huh, I call him gummy bear. Who Gummy bear that's?

Speaker 3 19:18

my Gummy bear. That's his nickname. That's his nickname.

Speaker 2 19:20

You think he going to like that as he get older? We going to find out. We going to find out. We going to be with this girl. Hey, gummy, real quick, come here. He going to be ready to squirt. Is that her? Is that her? Yeah, oh, you got to do something.

Speaker 3 19:39

That the older man I can't be with nobody named gummy. I can't Gummy bear.

Speaker 2 19:46

But so when my wife was pregnant with him, she got in a car accident, oh wow, and so she had to step away from work. So she was out of work for like over a year. So I was, like you know, holding it down so for me to take a day off. I just felt like you couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 20:04

Right.

Speaker 2 20:05

Even though I would have got compensated, but I was still just. Like. You know, I just got this new job. Yeah, I'd only been there, I think, at this time. I got in May, started in May. Yeah, october is when this all happened, october 30th, so the whole bathroom experience happened on the 30th, oh shit. So I had the stroke on the 30th, yeah, but I didn't find out until Halloween. Oh wow, crazy, right. So every Halloween is weird for me. Luckily, I got kids to take trick or treating, so yeah, Do you ever feel like something happening on the?

Speaker 2 20:36

Halloween. You don't be. I just know it's a little weird, you don't?

Speaker 3 20:38

wiggle it out or nothing like that.

Speaker 2 20:40

You know, a few years ago, the 30th and the 31st was weird.

Speaker 3 20:44

Really.

Speaker 2 20:45

Especially the 30th, because it's like it's just a regular day, but it's not.

Speaker 3 20:48

It's not.

Speaker 2 20:50

So, yeah, like I go in the next, yeah, I go with that, that's cool, florals, right, I go. So I go having me and I get to the me and have this explosive headache, yeah, like I never had my green style, never had a headache like this in my life. Okay, and we had a doctor and a nurse on site ago with me to check my blood pressure. Blood pressure sky high. I'm like whoa. So they said you got to go to urgent care. Damn, I'm like, okay, sounds like bad advice if it's that bad. But cool, I'm a goat, right, right, so I go to urgent care. They check me. They're like you need to go to ER. This was a waste of time. I could have been gone by now right.

Speaker 2 21:33

Whatever this is could have took me. I go to ER, we there, they run vitals and all of that stuff, and then I think when they admitted me, or right before they admitted me, they told me what happened. Well, maybe they told my wife. I don't remember how the news came out, but you know, in the moment you know, I say, yeah, the TIA we could have considered a mini stroke. I'm like, oh okay, they just casually told you.

Speaker 2 22:02

It wasn't casual, but when they I casually, I took it casually. I just like, okay, oh how do you take? That casual. That's because it's the stroke.

Speaker 3 22:11

Right. But, I did a few things in life. We don't take casually, but I didn't know you don't go.

Speaker 2 22:17

I did not know. I've never done this before you just been shot.

Speaker 3 22:20

You like, yeah, I have just been shot.

Speaker 2 22:27

But I didn't, you know, I never there's a bear biting you. It is a bear.

Speaker 3 22:31

It is a bear, it is different. Go ahead, I got you bro.

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Speaker 2 22:35

So, um, so they, so they. You know I didn't. This is when it hit me that this is real.

Speaker 3 22:40

Yeah.

Speaker 2 22:41

As you know, I'm from New York. My my family's out there in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 22:45

Because you say smoothie, you don't say smoothie, you say smoothie.

Speaker 2 22:47

I'll say liquid drink you be like a blend, would you like a blend? Would you like a blend? Um, so, like I said, they, they, they told me I'm like okay, cool, I got to stay here, they got to run tests. It didn't hit me that this was serious until either that same night or next morning. I would say maybe the next morning. Yeah, you had to be next morning. My mom was here. Really, my mom lives in Brooklyn. Yeah, I just got admitted on 31st. My mom was here on the 1st of November. What, what are you doing? Oh, wait a minute. This is this, is it? I'm going. I'm going.

Speaker 3 23:31

You thought you was really going, but you was like you have them thoughts.

Speaker 2 23:35

I probably you know what I'm saying. Like it's like something's wrong because you're not supposed to be here.

Speaker 3 23:41

Yeah, yeah, once they start flying in, yeah.

Speaker 2 23:45

You come here in May and October.

Speaker 3 23:47

Yeah.

Speaker 2 23:48

And I know October was yesterday, but that time passed. We make jokes.

Speaker 3 23:52

But the worst thing I see is landing the hospital bed Exactly, and then my mom, my brother's coming in and then, all of a sudden, a pastor I don't know coming in. I'm like, well, you know, get this nigga out of here.

Speaker 2 24:06

You know where this is going. I'm like it's November 1st, thank you, I'm in three weeks. You got to get ready. Why are you here? Right, you got to go big mama, get the stuff together and so. But, all jokes aside, I really felt like I just didn't understand it. I just didn't understand the capacity of what happened, right? And so I'm just like, and then mom shows up and I'm like, oh okay, this is real. You know, usually when your parents show up unexpected to places, as a child you're in trouble for sure. You ain't supposed to be here, right? The fact that you didn't mean we go home and I'm, and I'm going to get it, yeah, but this was different. It's like whole different side of the fence. So I'm like, okay, definitely. And then, yeah, so to answer your question, because this it's a long explanation, but it's cool man, you know what I'm saying it just brings everything to life.

Speaker 2 24:53

So after that it was just a lot of neurological visits, primary care visits. I never forget. The doctor told me two things that stuck with me that I did that. I was just like I'm not feeling. That One was because you had a stroke, you're prone to have another one.

Speaker 3 25:14

Get the fuck out of here, right? He told you, if you had one, you're going to have another.

Speaker 2 25:21

Well, not that you're going to, but you're prone to, you're more susceptible to having one than not. I got a heart attack. You have a heart attack, so now you're hard to low vulnerable. Yeah, you're at higher risk now. The other thing was they had me on three different medications. They had me on the blood pressure medicine, they had me on a blood thinner and they had me on a painkiller and he said you're probably going to be on these for the rest of your life. Now I'm 29.

Speaker 3 25:44

And I'm like they had your blood finish too. Yeah, yeah, I've been on them. Was it a kumadin? I?

Speaker 2 25:49

don't remember the name.

Speaker 3 25:50

I remember the center I'll never forget, kumadin, because I had the blood clots. I had three of them you need to tell me about that and I had. I had, yeah, I had three massive ones in there and they had to get those motherfuckers under control. That kumadin shit, that blood thinner shit yeah, that ain't. Yeah, I didn't like that. I would bump into a wall and I'm dark in the month Like this is. This is struck match shit over here. You know what I'm saying. This is midnight times two over here and I would bump into a wall and I would bruise up. You know what I'm saying. Let's circle back.

Speaker 2 26:21

Let's talk about you just call yourself a struck match, yeah.

Speaker 3 26:25

A struck match, just a struck match. Stay at that over here. You know what I'm saying. Oh did it. Oh shit, we got this over here, though. Is that recording? Hopefully we can.

Speaker 2 26:35

No, we still good over here, though that bad boy still running, so you good to go, um so, yeah, uh, they told me that I'm like, so then I had this, so then I had this. Thought, you know, and we just talked about this with the old, old uncles and what they looked like at 30 and 40. Right, so I remember six years old, seven years old, mad ass.

Speaker 3 26:55

What was like your, your frame at the time, your weight? I was so at this, did you feel healthy at the time? Yeah, when you had stroke and everything Okay.

Speaker 2 27:02

I was still playing basketball, like every day.

Speaker 3 27:05

Right.

Speaker 2 27:05

Like I was. I was probably three or four years out of actually competitive, competitive. Oh so you, yeah, you were definitely still in shape and you know I played to my pro football couple of seasons and you know I was, you know, pursuing opportunities. You can brag right now. That's nice Crazy. I wasn't. The money is not, at least it wasn't back then. Right Little to nothing more, nothing than little. You were doing what?

Speaker 2 27:31

you wanted to do you know what I'm saying, but I was hooping, I was playing ball every day, working out, going tryouts and this and that. So I was probably two to three years from that, but still actively hooping, playing eight leagues. So I was, and that was. The other thing is they were running so many tests on me because they were trying to find a answer.

Speaker 3 27:56

Cause it doesn't make sense your age and your health.

Speaker 2 27:59

Yeah, they couldn't tell me anything. They couldn't say Were you stressed at the time, that's what I bawled it down to Okay. Okay, I was Gotcha, but them not. You know, when you go on a situation like that and they can't give you a cause, you have no direction at that point in the sense, so you can't tell.

Speaker 2 28:22

They went as far as having me sign a form to give them permission to run an AIDS or an HIV test, really, because they were trying to find something. You know what I mean, which kind of it's. Like you, let's just say that was. Let's say it came back Right, right, that I was positive, positive. You're just going to leave me with that. Yes, right, you know what I mean. Yeah, you know I had a lot of thoughts afterwards about the whole thing, just like you know the fact that you ran that many tests. It sounds like healthcare is scary. It is, it is. And now I want to say Intimidating, right, I mean, I had a lot of really good healthcare professionals out there, so I would never discredit the whole industry, right. But then there are some approaches that are not, you know, not as kind to us mentally and emotionally, because we don't know how to navigate through the books you're telling us.

Speaker 3 29:21

So how? So when you, you got your, you know your test and you're going through the test and you got your, you know you had your stroke and they telling you that you might be prone to some more, with all that coming at you and all that knowledge, what is? What was your next step? What was your mental? Like you figured like, hey, I'm going to, I guess I like to have a lot of pills to take, you know, and really no direction to, to, to prevent, potentially outside of them as in, to pretend to prevent something like that happening again. So what was your? What was your mental and your moves? Your next, your next steps?

Speaker 2 30:00

So I went and followed the doctor's instructions. I'm going to Neural is just like you know, two, three, four times a month, getting you know. Oh, I'm so like, oh, so yeah. So he said I'm like, what are we doing now? What is it Commercial break? I don't know. So I followed the doctor's orders. I, you know, proceeded to take the medicine as as instructed. Yep. So I had appointments, you know and. But I had headaches. The headache that I had the date that I got admitted would come back, and so that's where the painkiller played its role. So the way it went, I went back to work. Eventually, I think I was out for like maybe like two, three. I just got this job. So I didn't, I couldn't take leave the absence, nothing. They was, they was trying to let me go. They was like listen, dog, you just got here like four, five months ago. I'm like that ain't long enough. You see, I'm committed.

Speaker 3 31:01

I've been here Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 31:03

I didn't just make this up. Yeah, this is real, but they with their rules or whatever, I didn't. I wasn't there long enough to get paid leave and all that, so I literally had to go back Like I was. I was, I think I was admitted. I was admitted on Halloween and I was released November 2nd or 3rd and I had to go back like sometime before Thanksgiving, wow. So so I didn't really have a lot of time to get it, adjust and get it together.

Speaker 2 31:33

Right, none of that. So with the headaches, how I went back to work, had these headaches, where it was the same thing every single day. It would start real mild and it would just build. It was like a real slow build and it would just hit that climax and it was just Just all headed, it wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 31:54

Like you know, my granny's talk about sensitive to light and just Straight heading straight and it would build, build, build, hit that climax, stay there and just persist until bedtime, until the next day, and I would take the painkiller. It would kind of ease it, but just it wasn't so. So eventually, what I started doing was I started taking the painkiller when I felt the initial build up to shot a Stop it.

Speaker 3 32:22

Yeah, get ahead of it.

Speaker 2 32:23

And, and, and it started to work. What's? Up painkillers, I can't even remember man. Thanks, oh wow.

Speaker 3 32:29

That's what we're doing Keep going, keep going, keep going. My bad.

Speaker 2 32:35

Oh, so I did that. It worked, but then I noticed that it stopped working because I started building tolerance. But also, they would get me high. You know they would have me. You know what I'm saying. So I'm in there trying to function around people and keep this you know what I'm saying? Right, because they have kids. So that was really it. They were חuden my um. My alternative for that was drink, energy drink. Do what? Drink, energy drink.

Speaker 3 33:01

You would hit energy drink on top of the on top of the pain killer, you was popping an energy drink, okay, so the story the story about to get real good about take a turn.

Speaker 2 33:09

This is where I said I'm not doing this, no more, okay, started building tolerance for that, right. So then I started I was, I'm timing was off, whatever. So one day I was frustrated, I felt incoming, and so what I did was I took my, my, my pain killer yeah, maybe two, maybe one, oh, and I chugged through the energy drink and I take it all at the same time. Oh, this was like 12 o'clock. I didn't get off till seven, 30. Yeah, so this all hit within like that comes rushing in minutes, right, um, and and I realized I said, okay, if I take the medicine, the reason why I started taking any drink and energy drink is I take the medicine. It really brought me down for sure, like so, and I'm like I got a job and life drink I wasn't even drinking energy drinks like that.

Speaker 2 34:05

I was familiar with them because I you know I would try this, try that. So I knew what I liked and didn't like if I had one. But I wasn't an energy drinker like that. I didn't drink coffee, you know, it wasn't my thing. So I had the energy drink and guess what it was? Remember the NOS? Oh yeah, the blue orange can. And you know, when energy drinks first come out, they are at its highest potency.

Speaker 3 34:27

Yeah, there's no regulation, they just, they just hit in the deck, you know the can probably said patent pending, that's what you know.

Speaker 2 34:36

You in trouble when the patent is still pending. So I said, okay, I got to make sure that I don't get down to whatever. So, like I said, took the medicine, chugged the energy drink. The NOS is what? 24 ounce, I'm like crazy, chugged it. Let me tell you something. What's my man name in the movie when he sunk into the couch, when Lady hypnotized him with the teacup?

Speaker 3 35:00

Oh, get out, Get out.

Speaker 2 35:02

I was him before him.

Speaker 3 35:04

You were sucking the couch, I was in there. That combination is crazy.

Speaker 2 35:07

I had a seat, my own little desk area. My seat back of the seat was here. Yeah, I was here At work. Yes, I was here. I was like this for two reasons One because I had to. The other reason was I felt I felt safe, Like I felt like I got to stay down here because I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 3 35:30

My heart was like that combination, my heart felt. You ever felt like that business.

Speaker 2 35:37

My heart felt bigger than life. My heart felt bigger than life at that time. That's wild and I said I can't do nothing. I missed my break, my lunch, I was just sick. I wasn't even hungry because I was so scared and I had never felt like that. And as I'm sitting here, I'm like you know what? I can't do this no more. So that's when I started to read and research and started making what were you reading and researching? First? It started with just stroke stuff like how to prevent it, and that's where I started to discover the cause, like I came to the terms that it was just stress. It was literally just me, overwhelmed with life, putting pressure on myself. It wasn't really nobody to blame, it wasn't nothing going on, it was just me not happy with where I was at that time.

Speaker 2 36:29

For sure I understand that and just being buried in it.

Speaker 3 36:32

I definitely understand that. I know what you're talking about.

Taking Control of Health Choices

Speaker 2 36:34

So that's what I was dealing with and that's why that happened, and I just decided to, you know, take it upon myself to one get off the. My first mission was to get off medicine. Got you, my mom worked in a medical field for 30 years or so, oh wow. And I remember her telling me how it's bad for people to take themselves off medication, that they need to consult the doctor and follow the doctor's instructions, and I could, you know, recall that, as I'm making this decision, I said you just going to go against moms like that? And I remember my mom was worried. She, you know, like I'm not going back there, I'm not doing them on neurology appointments and this, and that they're not helping. They weren't doing anything but just collecting on the insurance. Right, yeah, at that point it's like we can't really help this guy. Take this insurance.

Speaker 3 37:23

Brain surgery Like what do you want to do?

Speaker 2 37:27

Like it's not what we could do for you. We're going to be scribing you, so, um, yeah, I just I changed how I ate. I even changed how I worked out, Like I started working out more because I even as a basketball player, I wasn't in a gym like that Left in and more running up and down the floor and I stretched.

Speaker 3 37:45

I did push a stretch what you want them cats to be stretching before you. Yeah, man, I go out there cold turkey, I'm a bad motherfucker. Listen cold turkey no stretching.

Speaker 2 37:54

Kg and Vince yeah, they said that stretching was one of the things that gave them their longevity. When I heard that, I KG and who?

Speaker 3 38:04

And Vince Carter and Vince Carter and we see how they looked at the end of the end of their careers. Got you Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 38:14

But I still got it, he still got it. He still be booming, yeah, um, but yeah, like I, you know, stretch calisthenics, like that was my thing. But then, once you know, I decided, you know I want to think short for everything. So I was, you know, changing how I ate, shopping different, like I do nutrition specialists along with personal trainer, so like I put together meal plans and stuff for my clients.

Speaker 3 38:36

For yourself. Oh go, I'm sorry, keep going. I thought you're going to save for yourself, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 38:40

I do it for my clients, so my my meal guide I like to call it a grocery list. I've made this I've had it now for like over 10 years or less than 10 years where I put together like things not to buy, things to consider, to kind of give people a scope of how to shop. Like you don't have to buy what's on this list, but it just gives you direction what to look for and what to avoid.

Speaker 2 39:03

What it looked like at 29 and 30, when I was, you know, finding my way through this and navigating through my own health battles. It's completely different, because I never stopped learning. I never stopped looking for information, even till this day, you know. I'm just always experiment. I'm always a guinea pig. So that's what got me to where I'm at today is having my own experience and just saying I'm going to take ownership, like I can't put it in the hands of people who really don't know what I'm feeling.

Speaker 2 39:29

Yeah, and that's hard for people to do because it's a big leap.

Speaker 3 39:33

It's scary, especially when you don't know.

Speaker 2 39:36

Like I said when they told me I had a stroke, I would have real kind of nudge and lawn, because I'm just like all right. So what are we doing? Yeah, it was, it was. My wife was like you don't want to tell nobody, like no, I ain't gonna tell them, you know what.

Speaker 2 39:49

I'm saying, yeah, we got in and I got this. And then, you know, a day goes by, you sure? And when she kept asking me that again, you know mom is here You're asking me, do I want to tell people, is it a wrap? Like, are we trying to tell, like, hey, because you ain't got that much time left, I don't want to be alone? When I got to tell your friends, for sure you took off. Right.

Speaker 2 40:12

Right, that's that my thinking, though, but I was all right, fine, and she, you know, was telling people flood day, talking people's coming up with magazines and flowers. It was like y'all need to chill. I'm good, I'm alive, man, they told me I got 24 to 48 hours you fucking around with people to get out. I'm not, you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna be back, but I appreciated that. You know what I'm saying, like everybody you know, show love and whatever, but you go into the finding out how to cook for yourself.

Speaker 3 40:50

Yeah so that was fun. Did you challenge? Did you look and challenge your own diagram, what you was the research you were seeing? Look at how you've been eating. Did you feel like there were some similarities? You like now I'm eating like shit versus one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 41:05

Okay, got you? Yeah, I was definitely not. I wasn't eating the worst in the world, but I was in the. I was I was eating fast food.

Speaker 3 41:13

Yeah, and I always, I always ask it seems like I don't mean to cut you off. I apologize. It's like, um, it usually takes some time, it usually takes something heavy right For people to adjust things right and you had something heavy happening to you you wanted to adjust. Now look, as I look around the room, I got visions in here he doing, he doing this, jj Abrams right now.

Speaker 1 41:37

I look around the room. There's just three in here right now.

Speaker 3 41:39

Right Food though? Yeah, food. I say it with a lot of passion, out of love, because it's hard to shift your eating it is. You know what I'm saying. It is, listen, I call myself a heavyweight vegan, all right. There are moments that I look over there. I go to any store and I see a yellow bag. I see an oval shaped little creature on there, a little animation character, and I say there's a peanut M&Ms. I said they calling me.

Speaker 3 42:15

They say, shade, get you a bag, maybe it's cool. You know what I'm saying. It's hard to change your eating habits, yeah, but I think for life and living and breathing and enjoying, you had little ones. You know, the change might have been easier, but was it? Was it change? No, the change.

Speaker 2 42:40

No, whoa, I don't want to say it was easier, it was like it wasn't a lot of thought put into it, and what I mean by that is I wasn't struggling with the idea of doing better, because I was. I had never tried any of this before, and even in the beginning I didn't cut out a lot of things, a lot of things that I've even cut out up until this point, because it was a lot that I didn't know.

Speaker 3 43:14

Yeah.

Speaker 2 43:16

So I cut out a lot, but then there was a lot left that I needed to adjust that eventually, excuse me that eventually I discovered later on, just like I said, continue continuing to study, research, read all of these different things. But even having something like that happened and I'm saying this just because I know firsthand with people in my life and people who I've talked to, who have friends and family and whatnot in their life, even something as serious as that, like what happened to me, is serious, but I'm aware of other circumstances that were way, way worse and they still don't want to cross over. They still don't want to like fully commit because of what you said. Right, you know there's a lot of things that could be said as to why fear or unfamiliarity, it's like a lot you really don't know. It's like what is it about you that makes it so hard for you to let this go after you just went through that? Right, right, right, you know that smoke cigarettes and then told as bad for you.

Speaker 2 44:45

You know, you, a Beverly Hills cop, cigarette truck away from a hole in your neck. You know what I'm saying, because that's how many you smoke a year. If you have another year, like last year, the year after that you had a hole in your neck and they're like, I'll get fun. Yeah, I mean, I made it this far, I could go another year, and not only that, but y'all told me that two years ago. Right, I'm still here, I'm good. I still got my whole neck and I'm still got my whole neck.

Speaker 3 45:16

I still got my whole neck. You ain't talking about. You ain't talking about.

Speaker 2 45:21

I ain't got that Woody Woodpecker, yet I'm good Ain't. No, I'm good, no people, so no people. It's. It's really up to the person. Man, like I could say first hand for me, I just didn't like being 29 and told that this is going to have, this could happen, and this is your new life type of conversation. Like you know what I mean. You know, if you, I was kind of pissed off. Like you ain't about to tell me we're not doing that. Uh, I've had a lot of conversations so like that.

Speaker 3 46:05

Yes, it's a fucking challenge and that's one of the things that I think a lot of people deal with or battle with. But I do want to ask you training, some training questions, yeah yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 46:21

And you keep asking me about this story, man, because I know it's cool, man, I see it.

Speaker 3 46:26

Once I see you sit back, I say oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, listen, I know, I know, man, we can't talk about. We can't talk about BC, right, but we can talk about. We can talk about the Cosmos, right, the show, listen, there's an episode on there.

Speaker 2 46:44

We can't talk about BC.

Speaker 3 46:46

We can't talk about BC, but we can talk about the show. Do you remember I don't know if you probably do did you watch the?

Speaker 2 46:51

Huxables, yeah, but I don't remember the episode.

Speaker 3 46:53

It was an episode where they were all the family. They were talking about how Dr Huxable once you see his eyes roll back into the back of his head he's about to tell a story. It was hilarious. Everybody was hit to it and every time they would come in and they would ask him a question, he would sit back, fix his pants a little bit and his eyes were rolling back. Once I see you do that, I say we in for a story. Everybody buckle up. We about to get the truth. Right now. We about to get the real man. Listen. So training you've been a person trained for how long?

Speaker 2 47:27

I was 10, almost 10 years, almost 10 years. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 47:34

I'm going to get into some of these. Do people need to work out with? What do they call them? What do they call them? Visions man, the bands. They need to work out with the bands. Is that something that people need when they're working out the resistance, the resistance bands? Yeah, is that? Is that an effect of? I had seen another trainer and he was posting about here and he was telling you know, ladies, that you don't need to work out with a resistance band, you don't need that at all, it doesn't do anything for you. Is that what you is, that you feel like that's something that's true? Do you work out with them?

Speaker 2 48:12

So yeah, I've used them. I've used them personally. One thing that I don't like, that I don't say I don't like the one thing that I don't do is I don't give anybody an exercise or an apparatus or whatever that I haven't done myself. So to answer your question purpose and intent, why are you doing it?

Speaker 3 48:38

Explain them.

Speaker 2 48:38

Yeah. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 48:41

So if you, if you decide to do an exercise or use a piece of equipment or whatever and this is just generally speaking you know, even with the bands, what is your goal and then, with that in mind, how are you using it to achieve that? You know what I mean. So I've heard this on a podcast, what I thought was one of the one of the coolest things that was ever said in the fitness realm conversation wise, Okay, there's no such thing as a bad exercise, oh wow. But an exercise can be bad for a person oh wow, because it's it's all.

Speaker 3 49:19

That's Yoda based Yoda. With a six pack, seven foot in the gym training motherfuckers, that's a Yoda. That's the Yoda shit.

Speaker 2 49:30

And it's real, because you know, if we are, we're watching a podcast, we're watching a YouTube video or whatever, and someone is saying don't do this, because this is what happens, this is a bad exercise. It can cause this. You know, that's like saying everybody stay away from gluten, kind of right, like we all don't have gluten intolerance. You know, maybe we need to scale back on a little bit for whatever reason, but everybody is not affected the same way by every exercise. Right, right and yes. So if you know that this exercise can potentially be harmful, but you know that there are people doing this successfully and they're benefiting from it, then to say that it's a bad exercise is like kind of wrong, kind of incorrect. Now, you can do things wrong. Right, a lot of people do stuff. You know. It's like, I know what you're trying to do, but that's not how you do it, right, that's a completely different Right.

Speaker 3 50:31

Right.

Speaker 2 50:33

So with the resistance bands, I just, you know, just like with any other device, it just all depends on what you, what you're using it for. You know, I don't want to say that it's don't use it because it doesn't serve a purpose. I don't know why you're doing it. Right.

Speaker 2 50:44

I don't know if you, just you know, some people have weaknesses and limitations in area and they really need to quit emphasis on that area for the sake of their performance, their development, just doing an exercise correctly, preventing injury who knows what it is. So maybe they're doing the bands because they want to really strengthen their hips and they're trying to do every single hip strengthening exercise that they can find because they're they're just they're down for the tide of having weak hips you know what I mean. And so for them that could be purposeful.

Speaker 2 51:17

You sit on your couch and you're like, you know, I don't want to just sit here, I just want to knock these out, right, right, no exercise today, but I need. I know that my hips is weak and I had a hip replacement or I'm prone to have one if I don't get this together. So I'm down to do any hip exercise. I'm going to do a thousand of these a week, but then I'm going to still do my lunges and still do my stretches, exactly.

Speaker 3 51:37

You know what I mean. So the craze for moving towards the like, it's not crazy. It's here, society, it's in it, we, we swim in it. It is the, the women wanting the butt. They want to get the. They want to get the, the, the Astox right. You know I call this buttocks, I put the Astox with us. It's the Astox and they want to get it correct.

Speaker 2 51:55

They want to get it fantastic. You know Astox. You just say to me what is it? Astox is like the adult version of TikTok.

Speaker 3 52:03

Astox, that's what I'm talking about. You better go and don't even worry about it, patton. Patton, you know what I'm saying. I'm going to get it done. You ain't going to steal it, you're my guy.

Speaker 2 52:11

No, I'm on Astox. What I'm on Astox, this is everybody just showing their ass.

Speaker 3 52:16

I've seen your lady on there too.

Speaker 2 52:18

And your mama. You better be happy. You should not be happy about that. You probably shouldn't download it. I know to me people on there that you know that's your failure and you ain't gonna. You ain't gonna have a good time.

Speaker 3 52:31

What is the most effective for you know, when it comes to women, what is the most effective exercise for women to get their buttocks right? What do you think that they should do, and how often you feel like? I know there's a ton of machines. Think about the most basic gym in the world right, just the apartment complex gym. You know they deep in the hood there's bullets and dogs and beer and all they got they the apartment gym in there. You know they probably ain't got a lot. This is the most basic exercise they could do to really give them some, some, some, some muscle back there.

Speaker 2 53:12

I mean, I'm a lift. Squats, you said basic, like you know and I say that respectfully like squats is, like you know, top one or number one or top three of, like lower body exercises. Like you can't go wrong with squat. There's different variations of squats. Everything doesn't have to be weight on your back. There's different variations of it. But I would say the squat, squat, how you do it, how heavy you do it, that matters too. You know the type of squats you do, the weight of the squat, the range of motion you know. Are you, are you going 45? Are you going, you know, all the way down? There's a lot of critiquing crit or conversation around how low you need to go for your squat to be effective.

Speaker 3 54:01

Yeah, is there a level you know that you're not supposed to go? Is there a level you post to stay at?

Speaker 2 54:08

Again, that goes back to what I said we had an example here I have.

Speaker 3 54:11

This is this is Tanya right here. Hello, tanya, tanya is going to be the one I show y'all attitude to squat, I'm a go ahead.

Speaker 2 54:19

I ain't got nobody. That's when I that announced and I'll leave you with the routine. Yeah, you and Tanya can work on the first ass talk post. That's what we're going with Tanya today. But, yeah, every, the, every squat either. The different variations serve their purpose, right.

Speaker 2 54:43

Like I said you, how you do an exercise is all about what you're trying to gather. Now you might be doing an exercise with the purpose and intent of I want this to happen. Whatever this is, I want this look or I want this, you know, result performance wise, or. But maybe that's not the move Right, and you just don't know. It doesn't mean you're doing it wrong. It doesn't mean you're not going to get a benefit from it. But if you want to know, like, what's the best thing for me, then you know there's different ways to go and sometimes you just need to try it.

Speaker 2 55:09

All Right, and you're very big on safety. Anything that you do in the gym, be safe first, right. As long as you safe, you know, have that is that starting out with a lot of weight or making sure that you put your form, your technique. You know I'm saying like got you. There's a difference between, I should say the, the, the. I don't think people really understand. Like training, yeah, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, you're training. Training implies that you're going to be doing a lot of the same stuff over and over and over again. You like basketball, love it. You know what I'm saying. I like basketball, love it. These guys go watch Hoosiers later on.

Speaker 3 55:52

No, you're not, I know Watch, you got game.

Speaker 2 55:56

It's the anniversary or something like that. Oh yeah, yeah 雪 home. So you know, when it comes to basketball, in order for a guy to get really good at something that he does, he's going to do that same thing over and over and over. Yeah Right, steph has taken millions of jump shots, thousands of shots each day. He doesn't take a. His form is the same every single time, for sure. He practices short range, long range, this side- Thanks for using Steph man.

Speaker 3 56:23

It means a lot.

Speaker 2 56:25

Keep going. Well, because Steph, it's my guy, steph go, I know him, you can wind up with you. Yeah, look what Steph said. Get it sweet, I got the SC9.

Speaker 3 56:34

Hey, listen, I'll post. I will post that tweet that I got Vision's there. Remember the tweet I got? I got a tweet from Steph Because I had bought his shoes and I had put it on Twitter. I said man shoes are all right, man Shoes are. He sent me a tweet. I said Steph, chill, man, I don't got time for your shit. You know what I'm saying and that's how it ended. He ain't talked to me since. But that's my guy. I feel like in my heart that's my guy. But continue, brother.

Speaker 2 56:58

That's why I can't see no, because I was gonna. You just trumped my BC story. What's the BC? I had a bi-to-cosby story. I'm not gonna tell it. Oh, we got chill on counting. No, because you brought them into the equation and that's the Listen man.

Speaker 3 57:11

You keep talking about guy. I don't know, I ain't listen, why you keep talking about guy I know the brown.

Speaker 2 57:17

I've seen the Browns on the real life. Never went inside, I just seen it in real life. I stayed across the street. But that's my guy as a child. As a child, you know what I'm saying. I was playing the show, but basketball they do the same thing.

Speaker 3 57:30

For sure.

Speaker 2 57:31

And so when you talk about training, you're trying to pretty much master something, and in route to mastering it, you're gonna get some type of result. So, master chef, right, keep cooking the same thing over and over and over again until you don't even have to read the recipe. You look in that pot and say you're missing something. Right For sure. So it's the same thing with training. So if a woman is trying to develop her glutes or quads or calves or whatever, Kind of a professional.

Speaker 2 58:05

You're going to do. You're pretty much. You're trying to train, you're not just going to exercise. If I say, hey, we should do it, I went to the gym and exercised. I don't know what that means, because you could have walked on the treadmill for 45 minutes. The first half losers.

Speaker 3 58:23

They watch you and watch he got games. 25th anniversary came out last week.

Speaker 2 58:26

Go ahead. But when you're and it doesn't exercise this is a broad term I'm going to go to the gym to exercise, right, but within that there's a lot of different moving parts. And then when you're training right, you're more than likely going to be doing a lot of the same things because you have a specific focus. But if you just want to work out, you want to maintain okay, I'm going to work out my full body today. So this week I'm going to do all kettlebell stuff, next week I'm going to do all body weight. Then the week after you're still going to be in decent shape and great health and as long as you're eating right and you're doing the things you're supposed to do to compliment that, you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 59:02

But when you want a specific look or a specific result or performance is concerned, you're going to end up doing the same thing over and over and over again and you're going to do things that compliment that main thing. So you want your squats to be better. Yeah, you're going to do a lot of squats, but then you're going to do exercises that compliment the squat. So not only do you speed up the familiarity of the squats, so now everything that you need to do is second nature. So when it gets heavier and heavier, you don't have to overthink that. My feet right, you know it's my core engages this right, because that's the first thing for me.

Speaker 3 59:39

I don't mean to jump in there when I'm squatting or something like that. As soon as the weight gets heavier, I'm like whatever I got to do to get it up. God, you know what I'm saying. That's the wrong way to approach any exercise, whatever I got to do to get it up, Whatever I got to do. So what is? Do you assess people as you? Hey, I just thought of something.

Speaker 2 1:00:02

Go ahead. If you decide to run with this right, I am going to run with it.

Speaker 3 1:00:06

We spent all our time in If you decide to run with it.

Speaker 2 1:00:09

you know, I'm talking about what we just discovered as a new social media platform.

Speaker 3 1:00:15

Oh yeah, I got you. You had me for a second. I was like wait a minute, you ready for it?

Speaker 2 1:00:20

You ready for it? Okay, as stock. Whatever I got to do to get it up, hey, because you said it Stupid bro.

Speaker 3 1:00:30

Whatever you got to do to get it up, that's the slope, right, that's really good. Do you assess people when you first? When you first, you know, get a client, is there an assessment? Yeah, do you have the yes and no? Okay, do you have the machines that you're using to assess people? No, or do you have that? Um, uh, uh, that Bill Paxton from Twister, you know you can go outside and look in the sky and tell where the tornado is going to land. You got that old school method of being like this is what you need to do. Oh, okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. You got the machines.

Speaker 3 1:01:08

Using the machine, I seem like, uh, I don't mean to keep cutting you off, sorry, we, uh, me and my lady, we was in Chandler, uh, we was in Chandler mall and, uh, we went to what's the? What's the? What's the story? They got in Chandler mall, the big one with the Ferris wheel in there Is it heels He'll? Why? Cause one came in, you don't know, okay, so, um, it's a big, big, big store. It's like a has everything and you can get guns, you can get basketball trophies, you can get basketballs, wheels or shields or something like that.

Speaker 2 1:01:41

I've never been, but I've been hearing about it Very nice place.

Speaker 3 1:01:45

You're only going there if you got a hundred thousand to bank. That's what they told me. But you can go in there and you go in there. You look at his shoes, we snuck in there. I ain't got a hundred thousand, we snuck in there. So I went in there. We was looking at his shoes, me and my lady. But they got this machine and, uh, you step on it and it shows you like what foot you put most pressure on. Yeah, all types of things. So all those, you use stuff like that.

Speaker 2 1:02:11

I like the body scan. Um, what I like about those, uh, about those devices, is it gives you a gauge, is it a hundred? I don't know if it's a hundred percent accurate, but I don't believe that it's that far. Like, if you come, if you waged yourself this morning, right? I?

Speaker 3 1:02:30

didn't say you did, it was nasty, I didn't want to do that to myself.

Speaker 2 1:02:34

Let's say you wait, you waged yourself in the morning, your son said this, and then you come to the gym and you get on the body scan. The body scan is going to do your weight. It's going to do your, your body. It's going to be your body fat, your BMI, all these different numbers. Uh, if the scale at the gym may not be the same exact weight, right, it might be off five pounds, but it gives you an idea.

Speaker 2 1:02:58

Okay, there is some accuracy for this you go here and do your body mass index on this device, but then you go over here, and do it. Yeah, it's a similar. It might not be the same exact, but it's close. So I like to use it as a gauge to show people like look, this is you know, this is what it says today. Yeah, you know it might be all.

Speaker 3 1:03:18

That's not us using the bathroom. That's my guy, Juan, getting some water in the back. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 1:03:23

But um, but it, you know, it gives you a gauge of where you're at Like. If you care about those numbers like okay, where's my body fat compared to my weight muscle mass and lean mass and all these different things.

Speaker 2 1:03:35

And so for those that are a number oriented, number driven, and they want to see that I'll do that, okay, I have done that for them in the past. But as far as to answer your question, like assessments, I like to base it off of what it is that you're trying to accomplish, like some some things you know. You know it's not much of an assessment needed. Yeah, if you're like I, just I need to lose weight, okay, we need to talk about your diet. You need to talk about your food. I don't like you were diet, but we just need to talk about what she.

Speaker 3 1:04:05

Yeah, why don't you like using the word diet? I don't know, I just I don't. I mean there's got to be a reason behind it. You don't like the way what it implies, or like yeah, you talking about diet, I think. I just mean I'm wide, that's what you're getting at?

Speaker 2 1:04:17

What do you think you feel? I just feel like I've used it so much that I just oh yeah.

Speaker 3 1:04:21

Yeah, I don't like the word influencer or algorithm. I think they're overused. Everybody uses the words Okay.

Speaker 2 1:04:25

I can see, I can know what I'm getting. Yeah, I got you I got you 胸 if you got.

Speaker 2 1:04:33

You know, brother, I see you, I've got you. Hey, including with me. I fit your fat. I'll just I'll be a lie, okay, cause you, you're drinking, and what are you getting? What the ultimate option is? Oh, so, because I normally tend to eat out every week and that's everything. That, like you'll get me the whole week. Looking at it, I use myenteen. After awhile, I do a ton of that exact thing with him. But yeah, yeah, this is okay For a second.

Speaker 2 1:04:54

I think it's better to get hooked up over the wild investors. I think it's it's better to say to do this is what I'm gonna look like. Sometimes they'll pull up somebody else's profile and say you see how she did that, see that right there. That's how I want minds to sit. And I'm looking at you like, okay, but you know what I mean. Like you inspire, you're motivated. Let's see, let's start here first. Right, so everybody has their goals. Right, they did what they want their bodies to look like and do. But sometimes you have things that need to be addressed. You might come to me and say you know, now I want to shed and I want to be able to lift this much, like this and this, but then you got a knee issue. We got to address that, yeah you got to address that.

Speaker 2 1:05:39

Now we can address that and still speak to what you're trying to do Right, but we're going to prioritize that because we don't want to compromise that and make it worse just for the sake of you getting this, this goal, right as far as like weight loss weights, and then you got your your cardio right.

Speaker 3 1:06:04

What's your favorite cardio? Do you think somebody out there say they try and lose 10, 10 clean? What do you think the best option, cardio wise, is for them to do? I know you talked about the word that we don't like to say. We don't like to say diet, you know that that. That's key.

Speaker 3 1:06:22

We know that is food, you know. Say somebody, man, you know I create scenarios. So say somebody is they just coming off the weekend? Right? Okay, they went to 1111. You know what it was. And they came here. Then they came to the world season. They ate better, ate bad. All week they was enjoying well season. We got some of the best food in the city. It was enjoying it, right. And it's like you know what I feel, like I need to make a change this week. I want to try as lose.

Speaker 3 1:06:48

Try to try as I want, to try as I want to try as the dudes that I want to try to lose three to four good ones, right, so they need to get to have some liquor this this weekend, right, this past week. I mean liquor in the system they want to get. So you got to. You want the system out of there Clean system. What would you tell them to put in their body? First to start with the clean system. I got more out of this but say they want to get some of that stuff out of their system.

Speaker 2 1:07:13

Well, I'm big on cleanse on the cleanse Okay. That's that's. That was one of my.

Speaker 3 1:07:19

I said I did that, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:07:20

So one of the things that was one of the things that I started doing, you know, shortly after I got on my road to being better after the stroke, and all of that was, I started making juices. Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:07:36

And I was experimenting. I mean, I was throwing in everything in a blender, make it you know one time. For a while I couldn't figure out why I put all this, these nice bright colors, in his greens and these reds and these oranges, and everything just kept coming out brown, right, like I don't want to figure out what to keep going down. Why does it keep blending brown? Like you know, I don't remember this mix of the crayola you know you mix this crayon with that crayon.

Speaker 2 1:08:07

It didn't come out brown. That's funny, what's going on. But I was doing that and it got to the point where I found one of the main reasons why I did, aside from just road to recovery. I had knee injury playing ball and I was also trying to, you know, battle with that, like how do I reduce this inflammation and aches and pains or whatever. And I, you know, in my research, I found the benefits of cleansing and whole foods and all these different things. So my goals were that you know, this is what I'm dealing with and this is what I'm trying to resolve. Then I realized, you know what I want to package this up, right. So I did. I packaged it up, I decided to do a three day cleanse and I started selling it. And what was the? The first thing that was really dope about that was, of course, it's never fails. Anytime something new hits the market, who's the first to go after it? Who's the first to go after it? The first to go after the newest, hottest product on the park, the market?

Speaker 3 1:09:09

I'm about to fail you. I don't know. Women yes Tracks, they spend the money. Got you Right.

Speaker 2 1:09:15

They want to, they want to, they want everything that they feel like speaks to you, know the aesthetics and this and women's spending money I got you. So my first wave of of customers when I was selling my, my my three day cleanse will women and I was getting so many interesting reports of you know what they were experiencing after the three day.

Speaker 3 1:09:37

What were they?

Speaker 2 1:09:38

One of the things which you know at this point. I'm, you know, early 30s. You think I would. I would know this again. How many women go around telling us this information? Not many at all, never. I know you and your profession. You're around a lot of women, yes, and I'm pretty sure a lot of women are in the club at night throwing them back to back and they're experiencing this. It's called bloating. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:10:06

Yeah, For sure they're going to live their life. Cosmigos, you know what is that around the bloat? You know what I'm saying? Women live with bloat.

Speaker 2 1:10:13

Like Gunshot victims live with bullets in their bodies. That is the bullet.

Speaker 3 1:10:21

No, I'm being serious, I thought you were so wild Because it's like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 1:10:26

I can do about it. It hurts.

Speaker 3 1:10:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:10:28

But it's gonna hurt For sure. I'm not gonna stop living, so they be bloated and we never know it, right, you know?

Speaker 3 1:10:34

what I'm saying, that little tear yeah.

Speaker 2 1:10:35

It's not because of what you said, it's because this is hour six. Right, I'm on hour number six.

Speaker 3 1:10:43

Yeah, I'm on hour number six. Thanks for my number again.

Speaker 2 1:10:49

So they were like this is the first time in my dough life that I haven't been bloated, Right?

Speaker 3 1:10:55

I was like what Damn that's a win.

Speaker 2 1:10:59

How Like, what do you even mean? I've been like you know, I've eaten things in Adneville's and then it goes away For sure. You stay like that, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:11:07

I didn't know that I'm 31. Yeah, I didn't know that. I'm like how do you live, how do you drive? You don't say gas break, gas break you constantly. You know what I mean. Like how do you do that? So the other thing was, you know they would sell my hair, my skin, my energy. This morning, you know, like the first day, first day and a half or whatever, I had a headache and when that passed and it was just like it was just all of these different things that I wasn't paying attention to. I was probably experiencing some of them. Right but.

Speaker 2 1:11:41

I didn't pay attention because I'm just like how's my knee, my knee, good? Can I hoop, can?

Speaker 3 1:11:46

I still. That's what we be on joints. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:11:50

You know. Meanwhile, blood pressure is A. You know what I'm saying. My cholesterol is doing great and I have no idea and nor do I care. My knee still hurts, then my blood pressure don't matter. Don't tell me I'm, you know, 115 over 75, but I can't hoop Right, right, get me 170 over 190. You, good bro what? Let me windmill. You know what I mean I do. Let me windmill.

Speaker 3 1:12:23

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:12:24

Let's start running. The blood pressure is going to come down, that's what you start working out, so this guy got me tearing. You just fool me.

Speaker 3 1:12:34

They going to find out?

Speaker 2 1:12:36

So yeah, long search, I was doing three day cleanse. That worked out well. I personally just got kind of bored with it. I felt like there was more to offer. I didn't stop it. I just, you know, I stopped kind of pushing it.

Speaker 2 1:12:53

People I built a pretty decent clientele base so they were like hey can I come and get cleans or whatever, and I take care of them. So I recently I want to say four or five months ago I revised my menu, right, and so I decided to, and I spent about a month or a month of just like experimenting with things that I've already tried, right, but really because I'm big on the recipe, that matters, like it creates consistency, if you know like. Okay, I know what.

Speaker 3 1:13:25

I'm saying Consistency matters like a month.

Speaker 2 1:13:26

Right, you know what I mean. If you go in this, they say this is what's in it, cool. So I'm not going to throw all of those things Right, but you may not get the same consistency For sure, because they just throwing it in there. I'm going to put an extra orange in there for you this week, nah. Did you do that last time?

Speaker 2 1:13:42

I don't want an extra, I want what you gave me. So I'm really big on making sure I master the recipe and so I did that for about a month I put together. I actually have on my website. That's where my menu is Training there every day. There you go, you do it and go there God's green earth is the training every daycom.

Speaker 3 1:14:03

Training day every day. Training day every daycom there we go.

Speaker 2 1:14:08

And so the name of that. My juice line is called.

Speaker 3 1:14:11

you're going to call from Denzel soon. Go ahead, oh no.

Speaker 2 1:14:15

The minute. Him and that conglomerate. Sue me, I know I'm good, come get me. Watch my following Everybody. Who is he? How do you make Denzel mad? What do you do? So God's green earth is the rebrand. Before it was just whatever People just get the juice from training day. So I decided to actually brand it, make it its own thing, have a full menu and kind of it's still a cleanse option. You can still use that as a cleanse. I really encourage people to kind of make it more of like an everyday thing. Yeah, I'm big on eating your vitamins. There you go.

Speaker 3 1:15:02

Right. So if you don't, you don't take vitamins, you like to eat them.

Nutrition, Exercise, and Client Relationships

Speaker 2 1:15:05

Okay, right. So if you, if you having your fruit, you know veggies, whatever if you having some plants every day, your grains, all those nuts and seeds and all of those, you're getting your vitamins and minerals. A lot of people are deficient and don't know this because they're deficient and don't know that they're deficient because they're not getting enough of those things. Right.

Speaker 2 1:15:25

Even when they feel like, oh well, I had fruit today and I had vegetables, and you know I drank this, but they're still eating things that are hindering absorption. Oh wow, so you can eat all the fruit and veggies you want, but one of the biggest things that hinders absorption is constipation. People are constipated, as much as everybody. Yeah Right, like some women are bloated and constipated and don't know which one it is. Really, oh well, maybe, well, maybe, but, but no, but. Constipation is a big thing. It really, it really slows.

Speaker 3 1:15:58

I didn't know it messed up your oh, but go ahead Right.

Speaker 2 1:16:01

It slows things down. So if you're, if you're constipated and there's different signs of constipation and all it is is just to stop, it's a blockage. Like you, you got too much going on. You have things that are really slowing down digestion, that are really hindering your metabolism, so they sit there and they sit there for so long that sometimes they ferment, you know, or they they will.

Speaker 2 1:16:21

And and if you're eating too much of something, right, like, like I said, with the exercises, like you know, do you have people out of eating, like yourself, and you have people that are really big advocates for animal products, right, if you eat red meat, you know, go for quality and and and monitor your quantity of it, right, right, at the same time, you're not, it's not a death sentence that you eat red meat. You know. It's based on, you know, your lifestyle, the quality of it, the timing of it. But if you're just eating burgers and fries all the time and you think, oh, I had an orange today, I'm good, what happened that? Got my one orange, put you up to the good, you know what I'm saying. Got my zinc, got my this? You know, no, you didn't, because that orange is still sitting where it started, like yeah, for sure, so you ingested it, it's it's waiting for that red meat that's going to take a while right, and potatoes and Well how did?

Speaker 3 1:17:12

Oh, that's a GQ, so how do you? So we talked about the person coming through and that's how they flushed it out they getting it the trains, right, they getting the cleanse from you. You get that, that cleanse that in you and get you cleaned out. What would you recommend next? They going straight to the cardio. They going do you prefer cardio or cardio? Overweight? What is? What is a little bit of both? What do you got?

Speaker 2 1:17:37

I like to get the, I like to get the heart rate up through strength training. I, and I don't have anything against, you know, treadmills or road work or any of that. I think, like I said, there's no bad exercise, right, that's just my personal preference, especially if you know you're trying to. If you're trying to lose, it's been how are you trying to lose weight? Right, if you want to lose weight and but you want to build muscle, you want to shape. You know, male or female you want to have, you know, chills, chest and shoulders. Or you know, as a woman, you want to have a slim waist but you still want to have some nice legs or whatever. It just depends on what you're trying to go after. And then also, what do you need? Right, you know someone may not need to be on a cardiovascular device for 45 minutes every single day to burn the fat. Your body type may just need more strength training, right, and you're going to burn the fat. You need to burn in the right places and still develop the body. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:18:35

Right, so okay. So we got. Let me see double check here. We can do about five more minutes because I got one phone dying. I got you good, though. This has been fantastic. You got a special guest, Pilla. What's up man? How you doing man? Um, so okay, how do you so okay? So there's just like there may be a bit of a um uh, it doesn't be sensitive with this. It may be a little bit uncomfortable where, um trainers and women right, um, women, may I've seen, I may have read some things, heard some things when it comes to trainers and women being comfortable or the trainer being a little too much, or how do you go about handling your women clients, keeping them comfortable and in a good space where it's just we just working out?

Speaker 2 1:19:32

They just that just kind of comes with with time, especially like if you don't know them at all, like I met you as a reference or um, just stay professional. You know what I mean. And I know that just sounds like vague, like okay, well, but uh, you, you build a rapport based upon your approach, right, and if you know that you have the same purpose and intent as the person that you're servicing, then you shouldn't be a problem. Right, you know, like, now I get it. You know it's the opposite sex and you know there could be an attraction.

Speaker 2 1:20:11

But if you are taking the same approach with everybody every single time you treat the, you treat the client that you're most attracted to, most attracted to, the same way you treat the client that you're least attracted to, Right, Right, you know what I mean. And so you find yourself never mismanaging how you conduct yourself. Right, I'm going to spot her the same way I spot her Right. I'm never going to spot her a little different because I like her. Right, Right, Right. And this is, you know, I'm just getting a free feel and I want to see how she reacts if I you know what I mean. Yeah, but if I'm over here, I'm, I'm I'm keeping my six feet. It's COVID. This is COVID workout, right yeah?

Speaker 3 1:20:52

I'll never get close to you yeah.

Speaker 2 1:20:53

I don't want you to get the wrong impression. Right, that's terrible. Right, I want her to get that impression. No, you do it the same way all the time.

Speaker 2 1:21:01

And then also within that, you never. You never look at I don't want to say you never, but whether you would see yourself dating that person or not. You never take it out of context. Right, you never take a wide way here out of context. I'm here for the reason why you are Right, you know you, I was referred to you, vice versa, whatever. This is what we're doing, so it's just really keeping it consistent. Like I treat everybody the same way, I don't. If someone asks me, you know, do you have a client? Like like you know that one person, or there's a couple of people that you know they're coming in, or you know it's that day of the week and you got to see them, and you're like man, no, no, no, because I know that the one thing I like is I like the uniqueness of each relationship. Right, right, like I know that this person, we're going to have these conversations, yeah, I know this person um, we're going to have a talk because they're going to bring that coffee, and I'm saying that's a whole.

Speaker 3 1:22:10

that's going to be the kickstart. It can't bring no coffee Right.

Speaker 2 1:22:14

No, I'm just saying like okay that's how it's going to start.

Speaker 3 1:22:15

Okay, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 2 1:22:18

Everybody has their. I have my own relationship. Yes, Each person, so right.

Speaker 2 1:22:23

And so when you have that again, it goes back to what I was saying, like keeping it consistent. Yeah, I can't wait to train, um, you know, michelle, or, or, or whomever, because I like her, yeah, but then I got Miss Barbara later. I don't really want to see Miss Barbara because she, she's old, she's slow, you know. Sometimes she you know, you know what I'm saying she take too long. She's been exercising for four hours, you know what I mean. So it's, you know. Have the same approach, keep it consistent.

Speaker 3 1:22:55

We're going to pop some one words off here and then I'm going to ask you a fun question here Um, mental health and exercise, right? Uh, in your experience, how does? I guess I can't, you just can't one word with that. How does? It uh regular exercise impact your your mental health and wellbeing.

Speaker 2 1:23:11

Whiskey.

Speaker 3 1:23:12

There it is. No, I'm joking. No, where do you see the future of fitness going To hell, to hell. I'm kidding, go ahead, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just thinking. No, no, no, you're fine. You're fine, you can answer, bro. I'm just messing. Uh, mental health and exercise yeah, does it hurt from? Yeah, you said what the word was. Yeah, mental health and exercise, like uh, uh, does regular exercise impact? How does it impact mental health and wellbeing?

Speaker 2 1:23:44

Oh, like tremendously. Like I said earlier, you know, to go on all the way back to that and one of the first stories I told you, you have someone come in and and and be going through something, but they still came to the gym that day and then they talked to me about it. Yeah, that experience I'm sure for them. Let them know like this is a safe haven. Like, had I not gone near today, even though I didn't work out, and had I not gone and stayed home in my shell, I probably wouldn't have released this. I probably wouldn't have.

Speaker 3 1:24:14

No for sure. I've always felt like that as soon as I hit the gym yeah, If you get there, get it done, you actually feel better. Exactly, you know what I did some shit today. You know what I'm saying. The other one I asked you was a future fitness. Where do you, uh, where do you see future, the future fitness heading?

Speaker 2 1:24:32

The uncle that we talked about?

Speaker 3 1:24:34

Yeah, I feel like crazy ass, 35 year old drinking bad eating 35, look 95. Right, right.

Speaker 2 1:24:43

I believe that, as much as it's over saturated. Another one of those things that I don't like to use, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:24:50

Over saturated.

Speaker 2 1:24:52

Um, it's, it's one of the most positive over saturation of anything that's that we have right now, at least in this country, because, remember, we used to look at fitness videos as, um, I was going to say, robin Williams, what's my man?

Speaker 3 1:25:08

Richard Simmons. Richard Simmons.

Celebrity Shopping Game With Friends

Speaker 2 1:25:10

Ty Bowell. There it is. They got the things circulating on social media with the dudes, with the, with the uh blue sequence outfits.

Speaker 3 1:25:18

Yeah, I know you're talking about.

Speaker 2 1:25:20

Yeah, whatever they doing to dance. You know what I'm saying. Like it was, it was made fun of, right. You got the Arnold Schwarzenegger Right, that that that you know. When Arnold was doing his bodybuilding thing, there was no gray area.

Speaker 3 1:25:31

And I feel like today, you read his book, by the way. Oh, Arnold Schwarzenegger. No, but I did see the.

Speaker 2 1:25:36

I did see the three part series.

Speaker 3 1:25:38

Yeah, he um visions, visions. Listen, you listen to it, right? You listen to a podcast and you listen to the book. Which? Which one? The book? Okay, yeah, he said it was fantastic.

Speaker 2 1:25:49

I like. I like three part series.

Speaker 3 1:25:51

I didn't watch three part series but I will, because you, you sold it. You sold me on it. Um, I do have one fun question that I'm going to have you play a game. Uh, you where? Where's your? I'm going to start doing this with people Instead of staying in Target. They don't pay me. Where's your favorite place to shop at? What's your favorite store? Where are you? Where you like to go? Uh, grocery store, regular store, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 1:26:10

Oh, oh, oh. Man Favorite place to shop it's gotta be the grocery store.

Speaker 3 1:26:16

Which one?

Speaker 2 1:26:20

Well, I'm in, I'm on the hunt. Oh man bro, did you see them? I did. I had to take a breath and then, okay, had to gather myself. Um, I usually go to Sprouts. Hold, okay, we're going to take sprouts.

Speaker 3 1:26:38

All right, okay, there's three celebrities, dead or alive, that you can take the sprouts and go shopping. Who are you taking with you, dead or alive? Dead or alive, so you can take with you inside a beautiful sprouts. I'm a whole-food guy myself, but sprouts is a little bit cheaper.

Speaker 2 1:26:52

Oh man, Uh three celebrities. I could take grocery shopping with me. Yeah, Uh man, oh tough question.

Speaker 3 1:27:00

It's fun though, kobe. Oh yeah, nice.

Speaker 2 1:27:04

I'm a, I gotta go with Cope.

Speaker 3 1:27:06

You know you ain't buying no sweets for Cope no.

Speaker 2 1:27:08

Because I want to see what he's saying when I pick up something he don't approve of, just a mess with her right, just want to. That's pretty cool man. I'm not gonna say it like man it'd be serious about it, Like nah, you ain't about to black mom over some gummy bears Right, knock that shit out. Right, it probably leaves me there, right? Um, uh yeah, kobe, uh, who? Who? Because this is a tough question. I mean three celebrities, I don't know, man, this is.

Speaker 3 1:27:40

Come on now. Three celebrities, gq. You had uh, I think you had like Poc and then like Trump. Did you say Trump? And then who? Who? Obama? You know what I mean. That's a hell of a combination boy.

Speaker 2 1:27:53

Um, I don't. I feel like he's a celebrity in his own right, because he actually got bigger after his death. Yeah, I'd like to go shop with Dr Sebi.

Speaker 3 1:28:02

Dr Sebi, so you got uh.

Speaker 2 1:28:04

Because I feel like we gonna go to Sprouts, and that's not bad, right, he gonna go to. You know what he gonna do. We gonna go to Sprouts and you think Kobe bad, because Kobe's like yeah, really Like. Kobe gonna be judgment too. Yeah, dr Sebi gonna be like that's not real.

Speaker 3 1:28:17

And you gonna be like, but I've been eating this for like six years and it's in Sprouts. It's gotta be real.

Speaker 2 1:28:23

We going back to my land.

Speaker 3 1:28:24

There it is. You know what I'm saying. Like as soon as you go to.

Speaker 2 1:28:27

Sprouts, he gonna smell the antsy. Everything in here man we getting out of here. Number three, uh, number three, oh, man, celebrity, uh, I know you said three people, but I'm gonna just make this one. I wanna go with the whole TNT cast. Who Ernie Chuck, charles Kenny, oh yeah, that's kinda cool man.

Speaker 3 1:28:55

I wanna take all of them with me. That be kinda cool man.

Speaker 2 1:28:57

You fucked up my question, but that's real cool man and I wanna sit there and I want us to just judge the people that walk in to Sprout.

Speaker 3 1:29:03

You don't chuck a hater, so he just gonna be hating nonstop.

Speaker 2 1:29:06

Chuck gonna say Chuck gonna call somebody big ass, while her big ass in here he knows she don't shop here. If she did, she wouldn't be that big. You don't chuck on. Say something like that. For sure, for sure, for sure, and then Shaka dude when she say Chuck, she gotta what, she gotta what, I want some meat.

Speaker 3 1:29:20

There you go, man, I'm gonna hand you that I want you to pick you up. That's the game we played down here. I want you to pick you a category and you mind, if you help me, visions man. I wanna ask you one day about your celebrities, man, because I think it's important. Gq, you walk through the door. You wanna help, please, man? Okay, well, come on, do raggot. You said nah, man, come on, man. So you just choose a subtle ad, not like boy. Yeah right, you choose a category and you gotta hold it to your head.

Speaker 2 1:29:51

Hold it to my head like this no, no, no.

Speaker 3 1:29:54

So you choose it and you put it up like this oh, oh, like this.

Speaker 2 1:29:58

Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 1:30:01

And we gotta try to tell you in clues and you gotta guess what it is. Okay.

Speaker 2 1:30:07

I'm gonna go with this one Face on forehead cool. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:30:16

Damn, I don't hear no music or nothing. You're supposed to play music. Yeah, I'm supposed to play music. Oh, um, this is a movie of course. Okay, cool, uh, it's got Steve Martin in it. I already lost. What did I?

Speaker 2 1:30:28

just get out of? Yeah, what did I just get out of? Man Uh ring, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, uh, when you, you got, you got hints, uh, divorce, you got kids, yeah, what are you? A father, okay, father in law, no, okay, of what I was. Oh, you said Son in law, son, in law Son in law Son in law.

Speaker 1 1:30:53

Son in law. Son in law. Son in law. Son in law Son in law.

Speaker 3 1:30:55

Son in law, son in law, son in law. I said to write, I gotta write. No, you didn't oh shit, I looked at it. Yeah, you just flip it, just do it up, just lift the phone up, there you go.

Speaker 2 1:31:15

Okay, we gonna wait until yeah, just look Look.

Speaker 3 1:31:18

Look, look, we gonna run it back. Man, we gonna run it back. Pick up, pick a new one, and then we gonna run it.

Speaker 2 1:31:27

Okay, um.

Speaker 3 1:31:28

Did it take a picture?

Speaker 2 1:31:29

of us Show you my host.

Speaker 3 1:31:30

I'm dropping for this week.

Speaker 2 1:31:33

Yeah, so you want to do a different category?

Speaker 3 1:31:35

Yeah, you do it. You can do whatever you want, all right. Here. All right, now you ready? Yeah, three, two, one go Sh. So, oh man, you know what it's? Singer Friday 13th. What's his? What's his? What's his first name in Friday 13th, jason? Ok, I ain't going to be able to help you with the last name, but you got the first one R&B singer, pop singer. But which one is it you said?

Speaker 2 1:32:13

you said his first name already Jason Derulo. Say it again Jason Derulo.

Speaker 3 1:32:19

The song title. Oh shit, yeah, you need the song title. Oh yeah, my bad, bro, you might want to pass it. I can't help you, man. We can't help you. We're failing you right now. Did it work? Oh, this is fantastic. Man, don't go chasing waterfalls.

Speaker 2 1:32:34

I almost messed up. See, see it all TLC, don't go chasing waterfalls.

Speaker 3 1:32:42

It's technically it's right, but you got to switch it.

Speaker 2 1:32:45

Don't go chasing waterfalls by TLC.

Speaker 3 1:32:49

That's why I'm running real more time as we get out of here.

Speaker 2 1:32:53

One more time.

Speaker 3 1:32:53

Yes, you know it does take a picture of people too. That's pretty cool, it is.

Speaker 2 1:32:56

I don't know how you are.

Speaker 3 1:32:58

What are you picking? This is some gangsta and shit.

Speaker 2 1:33:03

All right, let's try this we need right.

Speaker 3 1:33:09

Yeah, we go. Ok, he was a late night talk show host.

Speaker 2 1:33:16

Jay Leno.

Speaker 3 1:33:18

Boom, I don't know. I know right, I can barely go, oh oh oh. You know what? It's connected to this? It's connected to my Um. I can do it, but I'm going to do it. I got a pocket full of pocket, full of sunshine. I got a pocket full of pocket, full of sunshine, oh, oh.

Speaker 2 1:33:40

Oh, oh, Michael Phelps. Say again, Michael Phelps.

Speaker 3 1:33:50

Oh you know Dakota, she was in a movie with in training. Yeah, I got it. Oh, I have you. You might, you might want to go ahead and pass. I don't know I'm going to let you down. Oh, you ain't going to notice one either, but Twilight. Yeah. You wouldn't get that. Yeah, that's the All right. Listen, that was Can you do me a favor? Yeah, can you tell everybody where they can? That was horrible for us. Can you tell everybody where they can find you, your social media platforms and all those things like that?

Speaker 2 1:34:26

What you got coming you know your website and yet you know Instagram at training day every day, spelled how it sounds, and website is training day every day. Dot com, my clothing brand, work clothes, work clothes. That comes actually spelled W R, k, c, l, t H S, nice, yeah. And then my juice is also on my training day of every day website.

Pricing and Comedy Night Discussion

Speaker 3 1:34:52

Nice. Yes, how much your juices, the cleanses.

Speaker 2 1:34:55

May I much be talking, how many?

Speaker 3 1:34:57

I mean, just how do you buy, yeah, so like, like, like a day the prices are for.

Speaker 2 1:35:04

the flavors are real close. It's like 25 to 27 for a day, for a day cleanse, and then the more you buy the price goes down per per bottle. So I have a six, a six, 12 and 18 pack. Ok, sweet.

Speaker 3 1:35:18

And my name is Daddy Ashay. This is seasonable clout. You can find me on Instagram at that is that shade. You can find me on Facebook at that is shade X. Twitter at that is shade. And on Tik Tok is the same thing too. I appreciate everybody for listening, nay, I appreciate you. Thank you very much. Appreciate the storyteller of the year. You know I'm saying I expect number of great things from you later in life when it comes to telling stories and when I get your book, when you write your health book.

Speaker 3 1:35:50

I appreciate that I'm a sink into the couch. Oh, my God, I'm going to lift that book up and I'm going to read.

Speaker 2 1:35:56

Oh, I hope you know I hope you're not going to be on that thing I was on back in the day, no no no, no, no, no, but I appreciate you. But listen, you need to let me know when y'all are going to have improv night at 11.

Speaker 3 1:36:07

Oh, we're actually. We actually work on that. Yeah, we're having a year. What? Yeah, One of our guys, Brandon. You met Brandon. He used to manage 1111. Mm hmm, oh, ok, cool, he's a comedian now and they're supposed to be setting it up to do the comedy night here. That's what you mean, right yeah, are you talking about actual dramatic improv, like acting improv?

Speaker 1 1:36:31

No, no, no, no, no, no. You talking about comedy night? Yeah, you going to do it, go on.

Speaker 3 1:36:35

What the fuck? I just want you to ask about it for me. I just want to come and watch, man, I thought you was going to get up on stage, man.

Speaker 2 1:36:41

I mean like let me tell you something I got some RDLs.

Speaker 3 1:36:44

I heard that's a bad exercise too, but I don't know. We're getting that later on, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:36:49

All right up now. Yeah, I appreciate you, yeah.