Memorial Day, NFL Trades, and a salute to the Bravest and Brightest!

The boys are back and of course, it's that Monday thang and we're talking NFL. If it's about a pigskin, we'll be talking about it. The UFL and Arena Football League are never off the table. Trade impacts of Bears' Keenan Allen, Giants' Brian Burns, Steelers' Justin Fields, and Browns' Jerry Jeudy. We're also touching on some CFB talk. Any optimism on this new Super-Conference look in College Football? What about the matchups we'll see in the Big Ten and SEC? The NBA Finals are getting closer and it looks like Minnesota and Boston are the favorites. Are you excited about this basketball season? We got our poll question and as always, a little bit about our personal lives to spice things up.

It's a football show but we are likely to discuss anything!

As Herb's tranquil seclusion of a family cabin reminds me of the true meaning of Memorial Day, we at the All Purpose Pod invite you to join us for a special episode where we honor the memories of the valiant service members who've shaped our nation. Alongside my co-host Herb, we recount tales far from the digital buzz, reflecting on the profound impact of the holiday and the patriotic fervor it injects into the sports world. We also open the floor for you, our community, to share your cherished Memorial Day stories, weaving together the threads of personal history and national pride.

Navigating the realms of trust and personal bias, this episode casts a critical eye on the sports industry. We bring the inside scoop on the trustworthiness of sports analysts, recalling surprising poll results and musing over saw-shopping anecdotes. As we reminisce about the NBA's heyday, we ponder the future of the revered 'Inside the NBA' and the candid charm it brings to sports broadcasting. Expect to travel back in time to the 90s with us and consider the evolution of basketball entertainment. Honestly, there is no better era in the NBA in my opinion. Are you enthusiastic about the playoffs so far and the NBA Finals?

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:29

Thank you. What's up everybody? Welcome back to the All Purpose Pod for an all-purpose life. Wherever you are and however you're listening to me, call me Mr U, the podcast. We thank you again for making us a part of your morning, your day and your week. We are in the house. Happy Memorial Day to everybody who has served and is still serving. Amen to that. My brother's in the house. Herb is on the ones and twos Morning, brother. How you doing, man? I?

Speaker 2: 0:54

don't know what that means, I hope that's good. Huh, I said, I don't know what that means, I hope that's good, it's good.

Speaker 1: 1:03

That means you're rocking the mic, baby.

Speaker 2: 1:05

No, I'm just playing how are you? Doing this morning, sir, we good I'm doing good, man, I'm doing good.

Speaker 1: 1:10

I'm sipping this coffee because I needed this short morning of sleep this morning. Very, very short, yeah, all right. So we got guys scattered all over the place. I don't know where everybody is, but Bo was on assignment somewhere Memorial Day hanging out with the wifey doing Memorial Day things. Your brother might be asleep getting some rest, recuperating. He works real hard man, so he deserves it for sure.

Speaker 1: 1:37

And we had a guest for the journey today that a friend of the show. He's a frequent co-host with us and he's not here at the moment. I'm going to talk about the draft. What's going on, brother? You all right out there. Do I have to call you on the air? Do I need to do that? I don't want to, but I will if I have to. All right, what's up, tidal? What's up boy Roll Tide. Brother, saluting those who paid, we'll tell you the ultimate sacrifice, without question. Without question, all right. So we're going to make sure everybody's in the house this morning. Happy hearing us. We are definitely on YouTube and simulcasting on Facebook and Twitter as well. Definitely. Love you joining us.

Speaker 1: 2:16

Memorial Day it's always a pretty somber time for most people celebrating the last one. I know that's kind of the time of the year where it kind of hits me on the emotional level. My dad was a veteran and I think about the thing I know about him the most is that he loves this country. I know some things about him obviously, besides that. That's the biggest thing. That kind of just sticks out. What's your best Memorial Day memory? I'm asking everybody out here, and I'll drop it in the uh comment section as well what's your very best memorial day memory?

Speaker 2: 2:52

so mine has kind of transitioned over the years. Um, since my wife and I've been together, we actually go out to a cabin on that weekend. It's usually a Saturday, it's going to transition actually into the Monday, but go out to a cabin on her mom's side. She's got a little, I guess, a little funeral place out there, little plots out there. They get all the people together. There's no internet out there. So once you basically have to to basically have to drive through a little Creek, make sure you got a good truck to get us through you go out there and all the family members from that side get together. And for the last three or four years we bring at least one or two of our nieces who are actually on the other side, so I don't even know any of the people that they're bringing there together and we all just kind of get out there together. They've got a bunch of kids out there. We take them down to the creek and it's just kind of like a relaxing day.

Speaker 2: 3:47

You know, unplugged and just kind of, you know, congregate with the family. You know I said, put a couple of flowers on the tombstones out there and stuff. Everybody just kind of relax for the whole day. We did it just on Saturday to do as well. You know, it's like especially for me, who's usually plugged in and who's always on my phone, and basically put it in the car. The only thing you bring out the phone for is take pictures. You can't do anything else and so it's just kind of you know relaxing time.

Speaker 2: 4:12

It's definitely what I enjoy, okay.

Speaker 1: 4:17

And her side of the family is from Bama as well.

Speaker 2: 4:20

Say what now?

Speaker 1: 4:22

Her side of the family is from Bama as well.

Speaker 2: 4:25

Yes, yes yes, they're all up there. They're like northeast Alabama is kind of where they are, so it's places like Henniger and Scottsboro and a little bit of Huntsville and they all. Yeah, oh, there's a lot of small Pisgah, there's some places. I don't know why, I know it it's something to do with sports.

Speaker 1: 4:45

I just don't know why. I know it. Yeah, oh, there's a lot of small town. I could Pisgah. There's some places. I don't know why, I know it.

Speaker 2: 4:48

It's something to do with sports.

Speaker 1: 4:50

I just don't know why.

Speaker 2: 4:51

I know it Okay, but that's why, so that's that's become the thing.

Speaker 1: 4:55

That's become the tradition I enjoyed every year. So that's good. That's good, all right. What are you guys thoughts on that? What's your best Memorial Day memory can be sports related or non-sports-related. I think I have a couple of them. One is sports-related with the New York Yankees. They played a game on Memorial Day that was significant back in the day. I think it was a Mets game. It was significant back in the day. But somebody kind of just think about it. It makes you think about sports. I think about the flag across the field. Sports. I think about the flag. You drift across the field and the planes flying over the flag. There's no deep memory. Sometimes I just think about some happy feels. You know the other one's about my pops.

Speaker 1: 5:34

We talked about a little bit offline on our pre-production meeting and just thinking about him. He was, you know, the only thing I know about him. Him the best that stood out was that he was a united states army veteran and he loved his country and he literally gave everything for it when he came back. I had planned to share this story on a show I'm doing tomorrow, but I guess I share it now. When he came back, he came back with some issues and everybody was in vietnam. They all talked about the same. They all all talked about Agent Orange and people were disputing whether it was real or not and whether it had a real impact on the soldiers and stuff. And he just came back with a lot of problems. And I think about that Memorial Day. He didn't pass away Memorial Day, but he passed away not long after that. I think it was before Memorial Day, so he made it even more impactful with the month or so before around his birthday time he passed away. So Memorial Day, when that shows up, it's kind of like I mean, you just think about it. I think about his flag and it wrapped over here right here, my man came in his office while I do the show and I look at it and once in a while, if you think about him, it's like you know there's a lot and we complain about stuff.

Speaker 1: 6:47

We complain about not having internet. You know what I'm saying. We call pizza didn't get here and it's not hot when it arrives. You know, we complain about the chick-fil-a line being too long and just all those things just make you think wow, what are we talking about right now? This is, this is not exactly nothing. People are out here giving their life and it's still happening right now. We we don't hear about it as much, but it's still happening right now People in foreign countries fighting for our rights and liberties, and we complain about inconsequential stuff. So it just kind of just puts me in that mind that you know what this is. We should always be grateful and always be, uh, recognize how blessed we are.

Speaker 1: 7:22

But for some people, memorial day Day is kind of that meter, you know, kind of gets you back on track. It kind of re-centers you Don't forget that stuff you're complaining about doesn't matter in comparison to real lives being impacted, families that have to sacrifice, not having to live with them for years at a time because they're fighting for all liberties. So it just kind of brings you to a place I'm grateful, kind of gets me recentered, recognizing that you know what the stuff we fighting about and complaining about and arguing about on Twitter don't mean jack bro. Yep, nothing. Well said man, well said. My brother.

Speaker 1: 8:00

Good morning, mr Ragsdale. Can you come on the show this morning? You're already here. You're obviously awake. Can you come on the show? We need to see your face today. I miss you, brother hey, can you come on, hit me or her up on the chest. That's a possibility for you today. All right, thank you, brother. I'm just going to be talking about the Memorial Day question that we had there. All right, thank you, brother. I'm going to see when you talk about the Memorial Day question that we had there. All right, roger, good morning. Good morning, ok. So now on a more less somber note. Now, memorial Day. We know that big time for sales, how that works. So we saw scenes up in the circulars like a week ahead of time. What's the item you're looking for? A really good sale on Memorial Day, if anything. Side of me looking for a really good sail on for Memorial.

Speaker 2: 8:44

Day, if anything. Are you? The one thing that I'd be looking for sale wise which I don't know if I'm gonna get it yet it's gonna go to summer is I need to. I want some more tools. I've got enough drills and stuff like that. I think I saws all, so I want some other kind of blade, maybe possibly a table saw, something like that. We're looking for more tools to add to the collection. The big thing that probably won't be in any circular is it's about time to shop for a house. I don't want a house from Walmart, so I don't think I don't have a Walmart fam.

Speaker 2: 9:19

That's the big. Thing.

Speaker 1: 9:21

You don't do that, man. Wow, congratulations.

Speaker 2: 9:24

Imagine buying a house from Walmart. How bad that would be.

Speaker 1: 9:27

I know it would be awful. Buying a shed from Walmart is not good, so a house you ain't got. No hope bro, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2: 9:34

So how long have?

Speaker 1: 9:35

you been? Is this like recent? Have you been thinking about the house, or this is like a long-term plan?

Speaker 2: 9:40

It's been like a long term kind of thought back of the house becoming reality as of like Friday, where it's kind of getting accelerated.

Speaker 1: 9:49

So a realtor friend of us called and so so oh my goodness, I just assumed you was off today, man, I wouldn't even harass you online like that. I thought you was off today, man, I wouldn't even have harassed you online like that. I thought you was off today. I thought you was at home chilling, all right. Well, don't work too hard, brother. Some folks are working today too, so I'm sure it's not you, so you ain't alone out there. All right, I'll be going to have.

Speaker 1: 10:56

Tools, tools, and I have none to you personally that you're looking for.

Speaker 2: 11:02

Those are the only two things, man. I've gotten to that that stage where, like, I don't shop a lot man, I'm older guy, so it's like when I want something I just usually go get it and it's like I'll probably find a better price later. But I'm like one of those, oh, I need this now. Let me get this now, you know so.

Speaker 1: 11:20

You don't wait around. You need to. You go ahead and get it.

Speaker 2: 11:23

Yeah, I get that from my dad. We'd be sitting around with uh, with dad, and all of a sudden you look and he got a new pair of shoes. Like when you get a new pair of shoes, I want a pair of shoes. I was out, I got it. There was no planning and stuff, so we won't say awesome news yet. No, roger, we we're in the looking phrase, but there's a path going forward to it, so that's that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 1: 11:42

So stay in the same area. You think uh oh, definitely.

Speaker 2: 11:45

My wife doesn't want to move that far from her shop, and we're like five minutes or less from it now, so she wants to be in this area, yeah so for me, since we go all over, it doesn't matter to me where it is, I just want a good deal.

Speaker 1: 11:58

So we'll see how that goes. Hopefully we'll see that happen, all right. So if you guys are paying attention and you're following us, this morning we asked them what was your best Memorial Day memory? And if you're a shopper, what item are you looking for that you want to get a good Memorial deal.

Speaker 2: 12:17

A reciprocating saw.

Speaker 1: 12:18

That's what I need.

Speaker 2: 12:18

That's my next big one A circular saw.

Speaker 1: 12:22

I'm leaving this one for you, but you know what? I agree, though, because I'm kind of in the same boat. I like that too. If I see my light, I don't mess around and wait for a deal, I just go ahead and get it. My Amazon bills are proof of that.

Speaker 1: 12:34

Yeah, and it's usually like I need it right now. I'm going to hold off and wait until I know I'm going to go ahead and get what I want, because it is what it is. We had a poll question I want to just ask you about. I really wanted to have some other input on this as well, but we'll put it out to everybody. Raj, I think you already know about it, but we had a poll question on Twitter. It didn't have as much reach as it normally does, but I think I've asked this question before with great results. But I asked who are the analysts in any sport that you trust the most and you trust the least? I'm very shocked by one name on the list, but we'll talk about that in a minute, but I want to get your guys' thoughts on that. I also dropped that in the comment section while herb is answering that. Go ahead, brother.

Speaker 2: 13:23

uh, skip is definitely the least you know, skip. So the positive to skip is he will tear down the cowboys when he's not happy with him right, but his bias shows on. It's like I'm not a lebron fan right, when he's not happy with them right, but his bias shows on it. It's like I'm not a LeBron fan right, but he's not a LeBron fan. And LeBron could hit 40, 10, and 10, and Skip will still find a way to talk bad about it. You know.

Speaker 2: 13:49

And on the flip side, he loves Tom Brady. Tom Brady could go out there and throw four interceptions and he will blame all four of them on the wide receivers. You know, or on the line or you know. The way he went after shannon sharp when shannon sharp was criticizing tom brady was just shameful, you know.

Speaker 1: 14:08

So skip is that was, that was the episode. Right, that's the one where that broke it.

Speaker 2: 14:13

Yeah well, he attacked his career because he said you're not as good as brady. I'm like that's the criteria, like nobody's ever. I mean, if if say you're not as good as brady means you take your, your career is trashed and there's a whole lot of trash people there, it doesn't, that doesn't make sense. You know what I mean that was a bad take that was a bad take. So skip is definitely the one you know he's. He's the guy that's always going to turn stuff around, you know, into something bad.

Speaker 1: 14:38

There we go, starting off early. That's not good. Only on Mondays it feels like right.

Speaker 2: 14:44

Yeah, shannon Sharp, I like. I don't know about trust, though All of them have something. You know what I mean. So Shannon Sharp's a guy I like. I thought they did have good chemistry until things fell apart. So he's a guy I feel like is a little more honest about things, until it comes to the extreme on the LeBron part of it, but most other stuff. I think he's the guy that's like. I'll tell you this performance was bad when it was bad and I forget when I answered this question. I have one more name for you of somebody else I like. But, as far as trust, all of them have something, especially if most of them are former players. You've got to lead it to somebody. So it's harder for those guys to kind of like. You know what I mean. Some of them don't want to breach that trust of former players. They don't want to trash their team, which I get but it also leads itself to like you're not fully honest when it's time to be honest.

Speaker 1: 15:36

Yeah, you can go ahead and dig it up. I'll go ahead and answer it on my side. Why you're doing that. I think trust the least. I kind of feel like, even though Skip has those qualities that you mentioned, I don't it's not a trust or not trust with him. It's kind of like does he have good information, or if it's credible or not? I don't feel like he always he doesn't always hit me as the analyst that's close to the source kind of situation when he talks. I don't get that. He at least he doesn't say it anyway he's close to the source and he got the information from here and he got it from an anonymous source within the organization.

Speaker 1: 16:13

He doesn't seem like he's getting it from somewhere else or just all in his own head. Not sure which one it is.

Speaker 2: 16:19

And to your point. Isn't that weird, though, because he's a former writer. Wouldn't you expect him to be more on that? And now it's just kind of like whatever.

Speaker 1: 16:28

Yeah, because Stephen A does it. All the time he will tell you that he's putting somebody close to the team or a player that he's not going to name his own team. He does it a lot. I don't know if it's a main dropping or what, but he does it a lot and it's like Skip does not do it.

Speaker 1: 16:42

I think Steve is the one I trust the least, I guess, in a lot of cases, because anybody that has and this is just a personal assessment anybody that has so much high emotion for everything that they say, I'm skeptical of it. I'm skeptical of it. I'm like you can't be on those highs and lows. I don't know if I can follow you. Sometimes I feel like I'm not sure if you really believe what you're saying. If it's just for TV, my trust for him is probably near the lowest. I can say he's the worst. I'm not saying that, but his name comes to mind as somebody who I don't really trust With the Shannon part.

Speaker 1: 17:19

I get that part because I feel like he will be critical of LeBron at certain times. When he gets to the GOAT conversation, I feel like he just turns off any kind of logic and reason. This is just this man's a GOAT. Nobody can say he's a GOAT without any doubt. How can you say that there's got to be some kind of doubt? Because, I mean, jordan was just killing it in so many different areas. It's not the same thing that we're seeing with him, so there's got to be some kind of doubt. But if you listen to Shannon, it's like there's no question. Right, he's it I'm talking about in a landslide.

Speaker 1: 17:53

I'm like that can't be, because 20 years from now they're going to be saying that somebody else is the GOAT of all time. They might be saying it's Anthony Edwards or somebody else. You can't say without a doubt. You got to look at the numbers too. You got to look at everything the area they played in, the amount of games they played, health stats. You got to count all that stuff. You can't just leave it all out. But the one who got the biggest vote was Charles Barkley. I'm shocked by this one. They trust him the most in the poll that we put out here.

Speaker 2: 18:22

I'm like I was surprised. Now I went back and searched mine. Barkley is on mine. I think it's because we expect Barkley to tell the truth. It's not that we trust him because what he says is going to be correct, but I know at least when he says something he's saying what he actually thinks.

Speaker 2: 18:44

But I'm actually going to expand that answer to the inside, the NBA crew. If I actually listen to them mine is Draymond Green, but if I actually listen to them Barkley's going to give an honest answer. It's not going to be a correct answer. It's not going to be a factual answer. Last night he called Daniel Gafford. You know PJ Washington. He called people butter. You know what I mean. He's not the factual guy.

Speaker 2: 19:04

But when you add in Kenny Smith, you're going to get more knowledge, more correct stats, more breakdowns. You know Ernie's tying everything together at. Shaq will be critical. Shaq is kind of more on the big man side, right, but he's going to be critical of the big men and he's also going to like give the props to the guys who are doing well as far as the big men go. So that crew, I trust Barkley gets our trust because we know he's not going to lie. He's not going to say this guy's great. When he thinks he's terrible, he'll tell you he thinks he's terrible. He's just not very accurate. So I don't put trust in him. But I believe him. I think that's where the I think that's where that comes in.

Speaker 1: 19:41

I think Shaq kind of had the element to. I feel like he he believed what he's saying, but I don't think he's right all the time at all. But I think we were saying but let's bring back to the Shannon conversation again, that's the. That's the part that's funny. When you talk about tight ends, I expect him to kind of do what you just described. When Shaq talks about a big man, he kind of, you know, he brings experience from being a big man in the NBA and doing it on a high level, at a high level.

Speaker 1: 20:09

When Shannon talks about the tight ends, it's like I feel like it's something he wants to forget rather than leaning into the fact that he was one of the greatest tight ends ever. Right Before they were talking about Kelsey at all, they were talking about him, at least in the top three, I think, if I'm not mistaken. Right, but he doesn't lean on that at all. I'm like just weird thing that you notice it's not a trust thing, it's just like where's his head at? You know, I'm kind of just wondering where he is. That's good. Jason Whitlock, the other name that popped up on the mostly in the I don't trust him list. I'm not sure if I understand that part. You don't have to like him to trust him, right? He says that you're like oh, I don't agree with that, but did that make you not trust him because you don't like what they're saying? I think that's a powerful question to think about. Do you have to like somebody to trust what they say to be accurate?

Speaker 2: 21:08

I think when you mentioned Whitlock, he's one of the, so there's an installer here too. That's what we do, right, and there's one particular name. I'm not going to bash her name, but all the other installers don't like this one. Like, if I lose a job to somebody, there's one person I don't want to lose it to and that's him, and all the other installers don't like them. I feel like that's Whitlock in the sports industry. He's like the one that the rest of them don't like. You know, they might have little beefs here. You know, shannon and and, uh, stephen a had like their little. I mean, I'm sorry, uh, skip and stephen, they had their little thing for a while, you know, whatever, and there's little, but I feel like all of them don't like whitlock and it's um.

Speaker 2: 21:49

There's also a huge race component to it too about it, but not like you know. White journalists hating black was like the black Either, so it's like there's a lot of personal hatred going along with him, so I think that's a big thing as far as Whitlock.

Speaker 1: 22:06

OK, that makes sense. Those are the main names that came out. Matter of fact, in the poll I didn't hear Stephen A's name at all, which is very surprising. I think people have fatigue or they were getting caught up in the NBA playoffs and just didn't answer the question, but there's no way to leave his name out. Not a disappointing time. So Lodge had a question about inside the NBA.

Speaker 1: 22:27

How do you feel about inside the NBA going away next year? Me personally, well, I have to preface it by saying that I feel like the NBA is on life support in regards to my interest in them and what I think they bring to the table. I know that there's money involved in and they're making money and people are watching and they're investing in it, going to games and getting seats. I can't, I can't ignore that. But for me, the nineties was like the heyday of the NBA. It was something to watch. I mean I can watch the Kings play anybody and it was entertaining. Basketball I can watch pick a team that you didn't think was that great. I can watch them in the 90s and it was doable. It worked. You know it was competition. My was doable, it worked, you know it was competition. My eyes wanted. For four quarters I was engaged. I didn't want to leave, even for commercials. I didn't want to miss anything. That's how it was for me. The players were, uh, really big characters to me. Guys like the glove, gary payton and vinnie the microwave johnson I mean I can name so many sean, mean I can name so many Sean Kemp. I can name so many people who are just John Stockton. I mean these are names I can't call them alone, they just all come flooding back. That's when it was great for me.

Speaker 1: 23:49

So I think, deep down, I still love the game, I still love the sport. I just don't love what I'm seeing since the 90s, since we hit about 2000. It just kind of went downhill for me personally. We're talking about 24 years of just muddling through this. We talk about it on the show from time to time, which is very, very rare. We're a football show that's hosted by everything else. That's kind of just where it is right now Inside the NBA. I feel like it's a staple for the sport and it's like the other show and I don't want to. I don't know the name of the show. I don't want to be dismissive, but I don't like the show. No other people on it. You can take that how you want to. I don't mean any offense, it's just my personal opinion. I don't know the name of this shirt. That's how much I disregard I have for it. I don't like what they talk about and how to talk about it and what I hear when they're talking inside the NBA.

Speaker 2: 24:42

You're not alone. You're not alone.

Speaker 1: 24:45

I didn't know. I was, like you know, busting somebody's bubble out here. I don't mean to, but it wasn't working for me Inside the NBA that show it just did it for me. So to see it not be there, I'm like I hope it's not a permanent thing. I hope it's something they can work out and figure out. I haven't read anything on it so I don't know. Maybe you guys can enlighten me. But for me I hope it hangs around, because even though sometimes new guys are full of foolishness, with Shaq and Barkley going back and forth and Barkley a hard time about his not having rings and whatnot, it's funny sometimes I feel bad for Charles.

Speaker 2: 25:16

I'm like man, I do. It came up last night again, yes, so anytime. Barkley makes fun of Shaq. That's his go-to. So Shaq's not good at the counter punches so he just always goes straight for the rings. So any joke he makes about Shaq, he comes back on him.

Speaker 1: 25:36

The low-hanging fruit. Yeah, basically he works. Every time he gets his into, he gets his licks into. But you know that's a really good show man.

Speaker 2: 25:45

I agree. So I'm the type of person I don't watch any like pre-games or post-games, really like on college football. So yeah, and he said I think that was specifically to your 90s comments and how, how basketball was much better. Yeah, so I think that's when he put that up there. So I think he was going along with what you said there.

Speaker 2: 26:03

But, like, even like last night, I only really watched the last Quarter, half quarter of the Mavss, you know um Timberwolves game, but I watched, I watched more of inside the NBA after the game than I did of the actual game itself. That's how. That's how high you know I hold inside the NBA and how entertaining it was. And I said not a Draymond Green fan, he knows the, but he definitely brings some vendettas into it and you know he's a knucklehead at times, but it's definitely a good show and I hate to see it gone. And this is from somebody who's not even watching most of the time, but I'll tune in and I'll get highlights. I've probably watched more highlights of inside the NBA from the whole season than I did highlights from games, just because I kind of like the banner.

Speaker 2: 26:52

And yes, raj, he is he. If you always shut, you know, shoot back with the rings thing. That's a little too sensitive. You know, if barkley makes fun of like your outfit or something you make fun of barkley's outfit, then go back and forth, that's fine. But going after his rings every time, that's kind of I don't know. That's like a gut punch man. Barkley handles it well, but I'd be one of those stuffish acts.

Speaker 1: 27:10

That's just a weird. That's a weird. Maybe it just means I feel like it's a weird dynamic to me. Yeah, because Barkley's the one that in that group aside from Ernie, of course, who didn't play it like that. But he don't have rings, but he takes all these insults and these shots and his face it doesn't change Whether he's happy or sad. You can't even tell he has a straight face and he takes the stuff on the chin almost every time they have a broadcast that they're going in on him and you think he should be the one that should be sensitive.

Speaker 1: 27:43

Shaq is the one that has rings in multiple places, probably known as one of the best big men, if not the best big man ever, at center. You can argue about Tim Duncan, some other stuff, but he played forward a lot too. You can argue about David Robertson and stuff, but I mean that's going to be up there every time and he's the most sensitive. That doesn't make sense. Why are you the most sensitive? Based on what are you fighting for here? You're out here doing commercials. You make your money.

Speaker 2: 28:13

What it was last night was Shaq mentioned he's been swept five times in his career and Jarrett Barkley was like you've been swept five times in your career. And he came back with I got four more rings than you have and I was like what?

Speaker 1: 28:28

Like dude. So what I don't understand? I don't understand, but I got some comments coming in. I would assume this is from our poll question about the analysts that we trust, or the most or the least back it up binge. Good morning, brother. Thanks for joining us today. Appreciate your comment, man. Thank you for staying engaged In baseball. Ben McDonald I'm familiar with him to a degree Does color for the Orioles. I've learned a lot from his insight. I think I've heard him a couple of times on some Yankee away games, I think, but I'm not totally sure. But it sounds like he's somebody you trust out there, and he dropped another one for the NFL, greg Olsen. Good insight on the games he does. He's getting a bad rap out there, though.

Speaker 2: 29:15

He does. I like Olsen, but I have read plenty of negative so I'm always like, am I just listening to the wrong? You know what I mean. Like I don't mind Olsen, but honestly, I drown out most of the commentators I listen to in a lot of these games because you can tell there's agendas or points that they've put forward and said, hey, this is how our broadcast is going to be detailed at times, and so some of them I feel a little bit too structured and so I kind of watch more of the game. I really want the commentators to explain the plays that I don't get. You know, like, hey, hey, what's that call here? Maybe why did this happen or why did that look so strange? But I don't mind Greg Olson.

Speaker 1: 29:55

I I've liked him as a commentator so far so let me ask you a question based on what you just said. Do you feel like Greg Olson does what you're talking about? I watched. I watched a few of Panthers broadcast. Unfortunately, I live in an area where I have to get more Panthers than anything.

Speaker 2: 30:10

I feel bad for you.

Speaker 1: 30:11

I'm so sorry. I'm not a Panthers fan. I'm not going to put on their gear. I've been out here for 12 years. It's just not going to happen. I'm not ever going to do it. If you send me that gift, I'm going to send it back and return the sender. I'm not doing it. But do you feel like Greg Olsen does that for you? That he explained, because I don't ever hear that part from him.

Speaker 2: 30:30

Right, he's kind of more, I don't know, not as excited as like a Tony Romo, but kind of like into the game and excited about a certain play, but maybe not. The breakdowns aren't there. So I guess I kind of like his enthusiasm a little bit more than anything else. But no, I'm not, it's not like super knowledgeable, I guess.

Speaker 2: 30:52

I'm going to have to do some grades this year to figure out the commentators I'm actually into. You also have to remember. For us, though, because of the way we do our Sundays, I'm watching a lot of games on mute, just so I can still spend the time with the wife as well and watch what she watches. A lot of our games are on mute.

Speaker 1: 31:16

I don't hear him doing that. I think from an analyst standpoint. I like that, I think, to back it up. Ben, just a point about Ben McDonough with the Orioles. He gets insights from that. That's what I want.

Speaker 1: 31:28

I don't have all the plays memorized. I don't know all these playbooks and stuff. I don't know all of the uh formations that they want out here. I'm honestly, I spent a lot of years watching football and never paying any attention. So I'm really playing from behind in a lot of ways, to be honest about it, and so I'm going to the football, that kind of stuff. But you guys are helping me out when you talk about these uh, with the three four, the three four formation and the four three and right in the in the two deep and stuff. I mean I'm learning stick routes. I'm learning this stuff in the past 10 years. I don't have it down. I don't know about heart, right, you know when I even said I think I know when I see it, but I'm not even totally sure about that part. So the analysts, they helped me out by explaining stuff. I'm like, okay, okay, that makes sense. I think I understand that Last year was probably the year, above all years, where I was paying a lot of attention to that, listening for that and looking for it, and if I didn't hear it, I'm like it kind of phased me out.

Speaker 1: 32:26

Unfortunately, greg Olson was those guys that I'm like you know what I wasn't looking forward to, what he had to say. I'm like he wasn't giving me that. I wanted the education and the knowledge. I didn't just want a background on the person, which is good. I wanted to have the information about what they're actually doing. Why did they make this move? Why did it result? And then play that it resulted in that kind of thing that makes sense.

Speaker 2: 32:48

Great comments from you guys. We do rule the airwaves. Thank you, Becker.

Speaker 1: 32:52

We're trying. We're definitely trying. Appreciate it, man. I don't know what we're doing. Man, we're just doing this thing, baby, all right. So we had a topic from last week or the week before Might be two weeks, but we were talking about the players that were in trades that we thought would have the biggest impact.

Speaker 2: 33:11

And that was last week, right at the end of the show.

Speaker 1: 33:15

So this never got it done All right. So I'll let you talk about what I set up and I put the question in the comment section for everybody to catch that we were asking last week which traded players will have the biggest impact this season. We talked about Stephon Diggs you guys can share about it if you want to in the comment section and we talked about LeJarrius Sneed. I think we covered him as well. We didn't cover Keenan Allen, jerry Judy, justin Fields and Brian Burns from the Giants. Those are the last of the players that were traded. You can jump on whichever one you want or you can reiterate on Steph and Snead. I think everybody knows the Diggs one.

Speaker 2: 33:56

I feel like that one's been covered Snead. Our brief comment was I felt personally that Kansas City might feel the loss more than Tennessee will feel the win, if that makes sense. That's where I was at it. I don't know, I remember, if everybody had a different kind of take on it, but I think that was kind of like my bottom line on it. So, um kind of days, like I said we were, that's a polarizing trade. That could be great, it could blow up, but it's only a year, so they'll cut bait quickly on it.

Speaker 2: 34:27

So you start with keaton allen. I think he might end up being surprisingly in one of the best situations, at least on the offensive side of it. I don't know what the defense is going to do, I don't know how the team overall is going to do, but you look at the depth chart, you know, for the Bears now you got Keenan Allen, dj Moore, roman Dunzey and Cole Komet. I know they even brought in DeAndre Swift. That's a great offensive unit. There is plenty of room for him to not necessarily have to be the number one wide receiver but still have plenty of catches out there. I think it's a great situation for him. Man, I think they're really setting up Caleb Williams to thrive and Allen, I think, will do good next year.

Speaker 1: 35:10

Okay, I have concerns. I mean everybody knows that you know the Chargers are my. I'm on the second team that I follow and you know I watched him in a spot where I felt like he had more than enough opportunity. I mean he was the number one. I mean it was. That was kind of on paper, it was kind of already a thing. I think the quarterbacks felt the same way because he got that kind of production. I mean, the 1,000-yard season wasn't really a surprise for him. He got those kind of looks and he was trusted in that offense.

Speaker 1: 35:44

I think the injury stuff was a problem, right, and it happens so often and unfortunately, when you're playing fantasy football you see it so much more. That's one thing I think was a good thing in playing fantasy football. You pay attention to little details, right. You see things you don't normally see when you watch on sunday afternoon. But I noticed a lot. I'm like wow, I noticed how many throws he was getting, how many he dropped, I noticed how many points he you know he had because of the touchdown to production yards, that kind of stuff. He was injured a lot and it's like now here we are on a team where, honestly, he's not expected to be the number one, but man in that room you might as well be, because if it's not that, who is it you know? And that wide receiver room is going to be relying on you to lead the charge in a lot of ways. We talked last week, I think you and Bo agreed that he didn't have to be the number one and he can be the wide receiver two and three and it'd be fine. But I'm like I don't know how that works.

Speaker 1: 36:43

When you got rookies up there, as good as they are, as high as they got drafted, it's like, yeah, but you're going to rely on Keenan Allen, because that just makes sense. I mean, he got a history in this game and he knows things that the rookies are trying to learn. He already knows it. So you got to rely on him to be there. And him being there is not like the Odell situation in Miami. It's not like that. I mean he's the number three out there in Miami and that's clear because of who you have there, because you got Hill and Waddle, so you know he's that he's expected to be, that Anything he does is gravy.

Speaker 1: 37:20

It doesn't feel the same to me in Chicago. I don't think it's a good comparison. I think Allen's going to be expected to be more than that, because method is almost like he's kind of like gravy, like a bonus. Anything that the rookies do is going to be great. But now, if he does what he did in San Diego in San Diego and LA you know what I'm saying that makes the team exponentially better at wide receiver, because he's bringing potentially at least a 750,000 yard season potentially it could be. So it's like you're getting Caleb a good situation to deal with, but if you ain't healthy and you still got injury issues, what's that look like? So I like out of this list. I like the well, I think Diggs has something to say about that in Houston. But I like Keenan Allen as having a big impact in his offense too. I think I like that. Does that make sense, though?

Speaker 2: 38:18

Yeah, I'm with you. I just think if Allen is hurt and I'm going in with DJ Moore, roman Dunzay and Cole Komet I still think they're okay. So I think it's definitely a big bonus having him out there and his impact can be felt. But if he does get injured, you know, or you know cannot healthy, whatever, I think they'll still be okay. But there's a difference between being okay and being great.

Speaker 2: 38:42

And I think with him out there and obviously how you know how quickly does Rome come along? You know, do we put more pressure on him? But the fact that maybe he can start off as a rookie and start off as your number three wide receiver better situation for him. Everyone can kind of slot in, you can bring him along a little bit more. And then it just depends on which one of those guys you think maybe you're doubling between DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, so the other guy's getting more opportunity. So there's a good chance here. I think you know obviously they didn't they. They want him out there. But you put those four out there, those four pass catchers and that john derrick smith, I think that's a great unit. So having him much, much bigger impact.

Speaker 1: 39:18

So oh, without question. I mean he's. I mean we can be concerned about his age, 32 years old, got an injury. He's been missing 11 games in the past two years. That that's something to give you some pause about, I'm saying. But he's logged 150 plus receptions and that's he's only probably one of six players that have ever done that before. I'm saying got a high catch rate in 72 percent over the past two seasons. I mean he, he brings something to the table, man, no question at all. I'm just, I was just kind of concerned about the injury history. But agree.

Speaker 2: 39:45

No, no, I agree with you on that. I just he's almost, because they did spend a top pick on a wide receiver and they did have Moore in there who seemed like he started to come along a little bit with Fields towards the end of the year. I think he'll still be okay, but I think that's the difference between being okay and being great is with Allen on the field. So that's my personal take on it.

Speaker 1: 40:07

Okay, one name that we don't talk about very much that's in this list is Jerry Judy. We talked about him in the front. Yeah, I know I want to hear from you at length on that one for sure. But the only reason why I even have discussed him at all in recent years is because I used to get into arguments about who was better him or CE Lamb and I picked Lamb based on what I saw and these people tried to roast me and barbecue me out here on social media, for I'm talking about for months they were trying to man Judy's going to smoke him. Even when he was drafted they still felt like he was going to just outdo what the lamp, what lamb was gonna do with the cow was. I'm like this is not gonna happen and I was proving right, but there's no reward for that. It's just something that just kind of just happened. But no, he's, he's meaning we don't really discuss very much in.

Speaker 1: 41:02

In denver it was a really bad situation with, uh, you know, the coach at the time and and the epic fails on that level, wins and losses, wise, and then the issues at quarterback that they were having. Obviously that affects him and his production and now he's on the Browns. I don't hear his name almost ever being discussed, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on how you feel about that. I know Deshaun Watson is something that we have to talk about as well, because he's the one on the ball and you already got a legit pass-c catching option with, uh amari cooper and, to a degree, david nijoko, but uh, what are you thinking about jerry judy being in cleveland and his uh impact on the team this season?

Speaker 2: 41:44

so, stepping back, like I definitely would have been one of those people in jerry judy's career, but we're also biased, you know. I see way more of him than I ever saw of any other receiver. That's not in the sec, you know. Um, that's what we're always, always watching. So I would have been on his career, but I honestly didn't watch that much of cdl because of where our focus was. Uh, and I say I think rugs was actually drafted before jerry judy, which I thought was weird too, because if you had asked us who in our past catching group, oh really, yeah, ruggs.

Speaker 1: 42:15

Ruggs went like in top ten, wasn't he?

Speaker 2: 42:17

I think Ruggs was before Judy in that draft. I'll look it up real quick when I throw it back to you. But Judy does not get a total pass because I want to say Hopkins started off with the worst group and still had good numbers. Um, there were plenty of games where it looked like judy was checked and you know, as a wide receiver you might not get as many opportunities you want, but you got to make the best of those opportunities and I just saw too many drops. I think I saw more drops in like half a season at denver than I did like his whole career in alabama. You know what I mean. It was just there were just too many games where he he didn't perform and so I can't give him a total pass on that for sure. And then, like you said, out of the three quarterback situations with Diggs, allen and Judy, judy is possibly in the worst quarterback position Because you have honestly no idea. At least you know. Okay, caleb Williams is the number one pick. You're expecting certain things from him and there's a good pass-catching group, right, you obviously know what we think about CJ Stroud. I think Diggs will be fine and if they don't have Diggs they'll still be fine, but Judy no idea what he's going to get there at quarterback. Yeah, so he rugs at 12, judy at 15.

Speaker 2: 43:29

That was a shock to all of us too, by the way. That was their Oakland Raiders getting the fastest wide receiver in the draft versus the best wide receiver. As usual, they don't learn. That's what they do year after year. Judy, he's in a good situation. He doesn't have to be the number one. Cooper, even with his age, no matter what the Cowboys might think, still was very productive last. So judy's coming into a situation he could be the number two or possibly number three, with no joku, who had a great season, especially at the end last year. But his situation is so dependent on what they're getting from watson. I have no belief in watson, so I really don't know what you're going to see from Judy. Like, has he moved into a better quarterback situation? Possibly right, and possibly not.

Speaker 1: 44:19

It's kind of hard to tell. I think his impact is the lowest out of maybe everybody on this entire list.

Speaker 2: 44:27

Yeah, I can see that easily.

Speaker 1: 44:29

And for one reason. It's because I'm going to talk about Deshaun Watson in a second with you, but the main reason is that he doesn't have to really do anything but be serviceable in this offense For it to be a help. He doesn't have, there's no pressure on him and I'm hoping that that goes well for him, because sometimes when people have pressure, they do better than some people who have some other folks have pressure. They do better than some people who have. Some other folks have pressure and they don't do well under the pressure. So I'm hoping that he takes the opportunity to not have the pressure on him. Like you said, be a virus for one, because they got Amari they don't have to do that and they got a joker who definitely is trusted by Watson. Don't have to do that there either. He can just be. If he averages 10, 15 yards a catch whatever, which is what he averages now, about a little under 15 yards a catch in his four-year career then good, if you do that, that's great. Nobody's going to do anything more than that and the pressure shouldn't be on you and you should hopefully perform. But the impact is low. They don't need him to do anything. Break out. If he does. It's a bonus.

Speaker 1: 45:36

Now, with Watson, this is a very peculiar situation because this contract was not a good situation to start with. Worst contract ever possibly. I don't know anything worse besides Bobby Bonilla In football. I don't know a contract worse than this. There's some bad ones, but this might. This has to be the epic top of the list. Maybe that's a poll question for us to use again as well. It's the worst contract that comes to mind anyways. It's like what happens if he just I don't want that because I would love for him to do good. Right, that division is so competitive already. We talked up that division, I think, the last two weeks. I'd love to see them, you know, run it up and make it a division, because the league is better when that division is good. Yeah, and we're competitive in the north.

Speaker 1: 46:28

But what happens if Watson is not good? What happens if he really seems to join? I mean, I'm talking about, after having the time off time to recuperate from nagging injuries, which is what they were talking about getting reacclimated to the game again after a two-year break, something like that. What happens when you come back and you don't do well? In this situation, with all the talent the defense has been rolling. They've been top five for a little bit now. They're consistent in there and they're adding pieces to that. And now you got a situation where homegrown wide receivers didn't been working out like Josh Gordon and Braylon Edwards, and it ain't been going well. Now you got a talented group of pass catchers out here. Now I'm sure I'm leaving somebody out, but Njoku and Amari, cooper and Judy just come to mind. I'm sure I'm missing somebody else back there too.

Speaker 2: 47:19

But those are your big names. Yoka really came on at the end of the year too.

Speaker 1: 47:24

I'm glad for him. I'm glad for him to do that because I really wanted that for him. So what happens if Watson doesn't do good? What happened to be stints to join up next year? What I'm talking about from the context standpoint, from the whole team what do you do with that when that happens?

Speaker 2: 47:40

Because it's, even to me, even worse than with Russ. I mean, you're going to be eating a lot of money, right? You're not his trade values, even even like who would trade for Watson if he does bad this year, right, nobody's taking that contract. Nobody wants any piece of that, you know. At least Russ wasn't like missing times. He wasn't great out there but he was, you know, all serviceable half the time. Watson's just looking bad. He's missed a lot of time and I mean even back in college he was hurt. It felt like every other year. So I don't know this.

Speaker 2: 48:16

This was you and they traded for him. I was still. They traded for him and gave him this contract. It was like they were trying to take. Had they just stayed the course of what they had and got a serviceable quarterback and amassed the other talent, they'd probably be in a better position than what they are right now. That's crazy, man. And with that defense you know it's kind of one of those just don't do terrible out there. You know, if we get a middling quarterback with a good defense, you can still win games. You know you don't have to have a top five, but don't have a bottom five.

Speaker 1: 48:52

I think they'll be okay. I think they'll be okay. I think they're built well. What do you do with it? Because Watson doesn't have a DJ type contract. I don't think that's what he has. He does bad. What do you do with all that money? You said, to your point, you can't trade him. Who's going to pick him up?

Speaker 2: 49:09

Right, and his first year. Because what are we in? It's like his third year now coming in His first year. He only what are we in? It's like his third year now coming in His first year. He only made a million.

Speaker 1: 49:15

I think it's longer than that.

Speaker 2: 49:16

Is that it? I think he missed one, and then last year was the first year that he was going to be like there for the whole year, and then he missed the second half, right? So I don't think he's far along in his contract and the first year was only a million, so there's got to be a lot.

Speaker 1: 49:33

Last year was astronomical. I don't have the money in front of me, but wow, that's funny, they're locked in for a while.

Speaker 2: 49:40

Yeah, 2022 to 2026. So that was a five-year average salary of $46 million.

Speaker 1: 49:49

There's no way they can go two more years with this. Do the Browns have an opt-out anywhere in it at 25? I don't think so.

Speaker 2: 49:56

They've got a void for 2027, so that looks like the first time they can get out of something. 2022 was his first year and his base salary was a million. If he stands to join up this year, this next year, his guaranteed guaranteed salary is $46 million.

Speaker 1: 50:16

It's going to be a bad situation if he stands to join up this year.

Speaker 2: 50:19

It's going to be bad and they have no way out of it. It looks like, so it's awful.

Speaker 1: 50:24

Not for the next two years, right Wow.

Speaker 2: 50:27

I forgot they got Jameis Winston. So that's a boom or bust. If I've ever seen one.

Speaker 1: 50:35

Jameis could go out there and have a 300 yard game or a 100 yard game with three interceptions like there is no, in between I hope cleveland rocks, because if you don't think we're throwing rocks at you but uh, man, so let's go to brian, burns real quick. Uh, I, I'm trying not to be a homie here, but I was really excited about the that, that draft, that draft, that trade, excuse me, and I feel like he I can't put him at the top of this list that we have here. Uh, maybe third, but the impact I think he has on his team. Nobody's talking about it and I love it. Please keep on not talking about it. This is great.

Speaker 1: 51:14

They already got Kayvon Thibodeau out there and Sexy Dexy out there and it's like you got this guy 26 years old. He's in his prime for sure. He's a proven commodity. He got a high floor, high ceiling, whatever you want to call it Double-digit pressure rate every year of his career. You know what I'm saying. It's like you're going to add him to a defense that probably, like I think, near the bottom in pressure rate last season. This guy is going to be wrecking opponents, man. It's like the sky's the limit. I'm like, I'm excited about this. What do you think about him? I know you saw him a little bit with the Panthers, a little bit. What about this. What do you think about him? What do you think about him and his impact on the Giants this season?

Speaker 2: 51:59

First off, he's got to love being rescued from the Panther situation, that's already a plus.

Speaker 2: 52:05

And I'll rescue you. So, if you think you're being a homer, I listened to Giants podcast when she was on there talking about all the additions and she loved the Brian Burns and this is somebody who's you know obviously listen to the Giants stuff, but it's critical at times and love the Giants impact your valid ability on defense, better the pressure, the quarterback especially, like kind of look at your division and the quarterbacks you're going to be going up against. Love is impact. I feel like the only reason why people are not talking more about the birds pickup is because we're still waiting to see what's going to happen with the quarterback for the giants and that's getting more pub. So I feel like that's overshadowing what's going on and the good additions you know, I mean, and you know how it is we love a. We're talking with my niece yesterday and every story, every memory she has is like a bad story about something and I'm like, are these your only? Yeah, she's 12. But then my wife was like you know what? When I was her age, I could probably tell you all like I can remember this bad story, that bad story like the good memories just aren't as good and I feel like that's what, what Brian Burns. It's like we're so focused on your quarterback situation that we're ignoring.

Speaker 2: 53:17

Hey, you know they've made good additions to the line. They've made good additions on defense. The Brian's Burns pickup was a huge pickup and they didn't have to give up much to get them. What are they doing? A quarterback and I feel like people like to throw out the negative versus. The Giants have gone around in a. They've made really good improvements. You know around the team and they decided look, this wasn't the quarterback that we wanted yet, so we're going to ride it out another year. You know what I mean. So I feel like that's what they did, but no, definitely going to call my teammates sexy.

Speaker 1: 53:51

Kind of said a tongue in cheek. I'm not going to call him a sushi next either. Rod is a weird one.

Speaker 2: 53:56

You know Rod is out there having falafel for breakfast this morning. It's a weird thing, Falafel yeah, Rod is a weird guy this morning, so I don't know what he's doing. Lunch yeah.

Speaker 1: 54:05

Breakfast yeah, okay, now I want to know what's inside the falafel. I'm a fully formed chef. I want to know what's going on inside the falafel.

Speaker 2: 54:14

But I thought it was a good pickup and, like you said, given his age, one thing I've said about the Giants is they don't have to try to win the division next year. You need to make smart moves. You know Dallas is about to fall off. We said that slide's already begun. You don't know what you're getting with Philadelphia and and you don't know what you're getting with Philadelphia and you're still a good chance to be ahead of Washington. So it's a good pickup. It's a good chance to improve your defense and maybe you push back on the quarterback for a year. But don't let the quarterback situation overshadow all the other good moves and Brian Burns was a really good move.

Speaker 1: 54:48

I'm not mad about the quarterback. I think I took some time to kind of live with it. I was on a show that I've been invited to be a permanent guest on, which I'm excited about. I talked about this. It was easy to listen to the chatter and go and just try to get one. It may some people are happy, but would it have solved the problem? This is financial in nature. It comes back to that Adding a rookie quarterback contract to what we're already in nature. It comes back to that. We're talking about adding a rookie quarterback contract to what we're already paying DJ and it's like let it ride out Now. At the same time, we talked about the 2025 draft for quarterbacks and how it looks and it's like do you want to try to pull from that pool for a quarterback? That's going to be a long-time guy Like this.

Speaker 1: 55:36

Second, I couldn't see it. When I looked in the list of quarterbacks coming out, I'm like, yeah, I don't know who I like. I could be totally wrong and somebody could come out there and be that guy and just surprise anybody. It's not the first time it ever happened where a quarterback played good in their last year and it garnered them a top 10, it's not the first time that happened. It can't be. It's happened before. So I don't know who that guy is. If we have to do that because if DJ plays well and shows himself to be who people thought he was, no discussion here we don't have a quarterback that's sitting there waiting for three, four years holding a clipboard that should be a guy drafted in the top 10. It's not an issue for us. We have our guy. Then you know what I'm saying. But if it doesn't happen, we gotta dip into the draft pool. So I don't really know what's going to happen here, right, but I think that uh, not uh, reaching for a quarterback was a good idea. I agree because he said you know what've got to be manageable and make smart decisions. Now our predecessors at GM, and at GM specifically, I don't know what they would do if they were still here. I think they would do something to be flashy, but it would have cost us in the long run.

Speaker 1: 56:47

And when you're rebuilding something and you notice it's in your trade, when you're building something, you've got to be smart about the foundational part. You can't overlook that, you can't gloss over that. You've got to be smart about it. Anybody that's the architect will tell you this. Or in construction, they'll tell you that You've got to be smart about the construction, the foundation, which are adding weight onto it, and I feel like this Giants franchise is. I feel like they're learning that right now. They franchise is. I feel like they're learning that right now they're making smart decisions.

Speaker 1: 57:15

They've got a lot of great pieces that nobody talks about because we didn't get a chance to see them do anything last year because of the ineffectiveness at quarterback and on the O-line as well. So we didn't get to see them do anything. But there's some really good pieces on both sides of the ball. Really, some areas I'm concerned about, like linebacker, I want to see something happen in that group. I'm concerned about the DBs a little bit. Cornerback specifically. I think I'm fine with safety with Pinnock, but I want to just see some things that I haven't seen just yet. You got to build it lower and slower and do it right. You can't be trying to make flash. We're not one player away. I mean Giants fans on Twitter, twitter. What's wrong with you? I don't understand what y'all getting up in orange about. We're not one player away from this at right, and if you're not, you got to stay true to your draft board.

Speaker 2: 58:01

Sometimes if you're not sold on the fourth and fifth quarterback, you know if you did your due diligence and you weren't in love with mccarthy or in love with nicks like, don't reach for it at six, that's a premium position. If you're not sold on those guys, you got to go. So you know you got to go in another direction. You don't take a quarterback just to take a quarterback. You know if they saw in their evaluation he didn't fit what they wanted to do at this time, then you just don't do it. I get that and I also I think we talked about this before I didn't agree with the giants trading up to get quarterback. I felt like they needed to stay where they were, not give up any draft assets and just kind of build that way.

Speaker 1: 58:37

So if you're not trying to win the Superbowl this next year.

Speaker 2: 58:40

So I didn't. I didn't see the need to push.

Speaker 1: 58:43

I don't know. I don't even know what's what's good for us right now, to be honest, and I'd love to hear from you guys that are listening. Even if you don't get a chance to talk about it here on the show in our comment section, you can drop it on our twitter pages. We'd love to hear your thoughts on this. But what's good for the giants as far this season? What's what's a good place for us to end the season at? Because for me, I'm like I don't want to be drafting in the top 10 that's just me because that that would that would indicate that we had a four to seven win season. I feel like I want us to get past that part. So what's a good place for us to be at? I have an idea where I think we should be More middle of the road.

Speaker 1: 59:24

I'm thinking like a nine win season is positive progress without putting us in a hole when we have to worry. We're about drafting high or trying to trade up and and nonsense like that, as opposed to getting quality pieces that are there and it's available. So for me, it's kind of where I see I saw the schedule everybody's kind of up in arms about it. I wanted to talk about that today, but we're going to push that to next monday because there's no time for time to talk about the schedule or the college football discussion that we want to start. But I saw the schedule and I did the same thing last year. I said I see some wins here, I see possibilities and all those games we lost by like a very low amount of points where we should have probably won the game. With some different decisions being made it could have happened. So I'm hoping for a nine-win season. That's kind of the benchmark we should be at.

Speaker 2: 1:00:19

It's weird. You kind of want a nine-win season but the number one overall draft pick, like the NBA draft lottery, that's what you want. I don't know how you get that kind of stuff?

Speaker 1: 1:00:30

How do you do that? Where can we buy that? Walmart? Yeah. Where can we buy that? That would be a great buy, yeah. Where can we purchase that? Yeah, that would be awesome man, but great show man. Thank you again for jumping in here with us again, brother man, you're awesome at what you do, so appreciate you so much, raj. Thank you for jumping in the comment sections, bro. Enjoy your time off, whatever you're doing out there. Travis, are you okay? Brother, I'm concerned about you. I'm going to have to call you now. All right, but tell me about where they can find you, brother.

Speaker 2: 1:01:03

All right, you see the Twitter handle right there Raj underscore Herb. That's where you can find us on Twitter. Herb and Raj Podcast on YouTube and tomorrow night, every Tuesday night at 8 pm Central, 9 pm Eastern, the Herb Arad Podcast. Definitely lock in with us. We love your comments, man, just like we did this morning. Appreciate you.

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