JB's Sports Podcast
From Playoff Showdowns to Draft Pick Analysis A Pro Sports Strategy Session
Get ready to be schooled in the art of NBA playoff prowess and NFL draft mastery. This episode is jam-packed with heated debates and sharp analysis that will satiate your sports cravings and challenge your perspectives. From the Cleveland Cavaliers' high-octane clash with the Orlando Magic to the Timberwolves' ambush of the Phoenix Suns, we leave no stone unturned. We dissect the LA Clippers' murky future and marvel at the tactical genius of Luka Dončić. And there's more - we're serving up a generous helping of NFL insights, from the quarterback quandaries affecting teams like the Falcons and Broncos to the rookie prospects that could change the game.
Strap in for a rollercoaster ride through the latest NFL updates and how they intersect with the colorful personalities that dominate the game. We're not shying away from the controversial antics of Patrick Beverley or ignoring the electric charge Jalen Brunson brings to the Knicks. Then, it's off to the draft board, where we scrutinize the decisions that shook the league - USC's Caleb Williams, the strategic shuffles in the NFC, and the eyebrow-raising quarterback picks. Expect to come out of this episode with a playbook full of fresh takes and the inside scoop on future stars.
Not just a sports podcast, we're crossing over into culture with a flair that only true fans can appreciate. Ponder Travis Kelce's off-field future and dive into impactful monologues from characters like Optimus Prime and Erwin that cut deep. We go beyond the stats to uncover how these stories resonate with us on a personal level - echoing the trials, tribulations, and triumphs that are as much a part of sports as they are of life. Leave your jersey at the door and join us for a conversation that might just redefine how you experience the world of sports and entertainment.
Get ready to be schooled in the art of NBA playoff prowess and NFL draft mastery. This episode is jam-packed with heated debates and sharp analysis that will satiate your sports cravings and challenge your perspectives. From the Cleveland Cavaliers' high-octane clash with the Orlando Magic to the Timberwolves' ambush of the Phoenix Suns, we leave no stone unturned. We dissect the LA Clippers' murky future and marvel at the tactical genius of Luka Dončić. And there's more - we're serving up a generous helping of NFL insights, from the quarterback quandaries affecting teams like the Falcons and Broncos to the rookie prospects that could change the game.
Strap in for a rollercoaster ride through the latest NFL updates and how they intersect with the colorful personalities that dominate the game. We're not shying away from the controversial antics of Patrick Beverley or ignoring the electric charge Jalen Brunson brings to the Knicks. Then, it's off to the draft board, where we scrutinize the decisions that shook the league - USC's Caleb Williams, the strategic shuffles in the NFC, and the eyebrow-raising quarterback picks. Expect to come out of this episode with a playbook full of fresh takes and the inside scoop on future stars.
Not just a sports podcast, we're crossing over into culture with a flair that only true fans can appreciate. Ponder Travis Kelce's off-field future and dive into impactful monologues from characters like Optimus Prime and Erwin that cut deep. We go beyond the stats to uncover how these stories resonate with us on a personal level - echoing the trials, tribulations, and triumphs that are as much a part of sports as they are of life. Leave your jersey at the door and join us for a conversation that might just redefine how you experience the world of sports and entertainment.
welcome back to the podcast. Today is sunday, may the 5th. We're back to the podcast we're back, baby.
Speaker 2:It's been a little over a week now, but we feel like we know we still got to put a podcast out. So here we are. Uh, today we're going to be talking about nba, we're going to be talking about a little bit of nfl and, uh, I guess we'll have a couple little odds and ends thing to talk about at the end just for fun. But, uh, let's go ahead and get on and do it right. So let's start by doing the recap of the nba. Let's just kind of go through, because it's ever since we last recorded. A lot of things have kind of settled itself out, at least in the first round, except for one series. So I just kind of want to go through it, talk about it, have fun with it. Uh, here's what it is. So there's only one round.
Speaker 2:One series that's still going as of right now and that is currently the in the game is today it is the calves of magic, the same series we were talking about before any everything ever started is that this may be the closest series.
Speaker 2:It can go to seven. It's two teams very evenly matched and I think by for most people they still do not care about this series whatsoever, because a lot of people look at it as whoever wins this series it's gonna go I have to go play boston and they're gonna go lose to them. But I will say for I'm not saying I've been here, I've sat there and watched every game of this, but when I watch the highlights and everything, you have a lot of very fun games, um, that have gone on as a like. You have very close ones, like obviously there's only been one game that's truly been like a, like a blowout to actually no make that two, game three and game four were both kind of blowout type games, but the other four games were relatively close and it was a pretty good battle, I think. Donna. Uh, donovan edwards, not donovan edwards, no not donovan mitchell, donovan mitchell.
Speaker 2:See, I was mixing up to anthony edwards. What I was thinking about. Um, yes, mitchell has played a very good series and, honestly, in some of the games that they have lost, it has been where his teammates do not really help him out all that much against their Orlando Magic team, but I just think it's just been a very like two obviously, but neither of these teams really play great defense.
Speaker 1:They don't play fucking defense. What do you mean? That's what I'm saying they don't play any defense.
Speaker 2:So, with all that being the case, I just feel like it's a lot of just good offensive basketball being played, even if it does come along with the bad defensive basketball.
Speaker 1:This is probably the more fun basketball that people prefer to watch. Watching just offensive showdowns is so much more fun.
Speaker 2:True, and I also think that this series may be kind of like devoid of, like the. At least, whether you're a magic or a cleveland fan, if you're not one of the fan of one of those teams, you don't really get like the vibe of oh, this is a very high stakes situation in these games because, yeah, but like, like we said before, everybody looks at this series like hey, you're just gonna go lose to boston anyway. So it's not like you're like really fighting for a spot spot to really go propel yourself on a championship run. Everybody thinks whoever wins is going to be pretty much out in the next round anyway. But I will say it's just some good basketball to talk about and it's been a good series. At least that's the one that has gone to seven. I think none of the other series have gone over six games and there's been a couple 4-0s. So, with that being the case, you have to give them the credit that at least they're having a good series back and forth that is going all the way to seven. The Thunder dismantles a Zion-less Pelicans team to a 4-0 victory. I feel like without Zion, the Pelicans really didn't have much of a shot. They didn't really have a star-cali caliber player to be able to propel them, especially with Brennan Ingram still coming off the injury that he had not really playing like a month before this series even started. And with that being the case, this team was built to be around Zion and without him they just don't really have the shooting really isn't all that great and consistent anyway. So if you don't really have that consistent guy being able to slash his way to the basket, it doesn't really open things up for the shooters on this team. And not to mention, the Pelicans' defense wasn't enough for this Thunder offense. The Thunder, offensively, were just able because they have so many guys you can go to. You have SGA, you have Giddy, you have why am I forgetting the tall guy's name, chet Holmgren? Chet Holmgren, as it like he has a lot, have a lot of offensive options to go to, that if one guy's having an off night, the other guys can kind of pick it up in a way. The Pelicans just don't necessarily have that type of, uh, collection of talent. So with that I just think the Thunder were just able to dismantle this team without much of an issue. Hence the 4-0 victory. And I think, were any of these games actually close. The first game was close, but pretty much every game after that the Thunder pretty much handled things pretty handedly. So good for the Thunder. They took care of business and they're on to the second round.
Speaker 2:You got the Ant and the Timberwolves they make the Suns look silly and a 4-0 route, winning by an average of 15 points. This series was not close whatsoever. The Suns had all the trouble playing against the length and the size of this Timberwolves team. You have Rudy Gobert, you have Cat, with them being 7 foot or even taller. I just think the Suns had a lot of trouble being able to play against that type of size. And not to mention, the other guys they have on the Timberwolves team are very tall and long and are able to put up a good fight against Booker and Durant and Beal. And with all that being the case, I feel like it just shows how not well built this Suns team is. You have Kevin Durant and Booker that come out and they pretty much do. They have pretty good nights every night, but when you lose, um, why am I forgetting that one guy's name that shoots all the threes?
Speaker 2:Grayson Allen yeah, grayson Allen. He was like their best three-point shooter and he was like the best three-point shooter all year. Without him, they didn't really have anybody consistent outside of the main two guys, because Beal was nothing close to a consistent contributor for this team Other than Durant and Booker. They had nobody else that was consistent on this team and if that was the case, you could just pretty much, hey, put all of your focus on Durant and Booker and make somebody else have to win them this game and nobody else was up for the challenge, especially when you have Anthony Edwards absolutely dominating this series, not being able to be stopped. I think in the last game he put up a 40-piece to send the Suns home win. The Suns were at home. So with all that being the case we were talking about the passing of the guard I feel like Anthony Edwards may be the first one to really look at and be like he could truly be the next face of the NBA. Everybody was looking at Zion being the face and that really hasn't worked out over his career. We've talked about John Morant being face of the NBA and he has had his troubles off the court, obviously this season not being involved, because he was fine this year off the court, but he wasn't able to play because he got an injury that pretty much took him out for the whole season. Anthony Edwards is 22 years old and he's looking like he has the star power in order to be the next guy, to be the next face, and I feel like the NBA really needs that right now, especially with honestly, it being the series being the playoffs right now, and there is no LeBron, there is no Katie, there is no stuff.
Speaker 2:I feel like the most veteran players that are left in the playoffs. Now you have the, you have jason tatum and jalen brown and I guess you could nuggets, you have uh yokich being pretty much the only one, but he's 28, 29 years old. Is cat really a star though I? I I've always seen cat as like an underperforming guy that really has never taken that next step. I feel like anthony edwards has outshined him on his own team like this. Is not that that timberwolves team is not anthony edwards team? I feel like cat is the number two or the robin in this situation.
Speaker 1:You think I'm wrong. No, but I'm saying how you're saying it. I say they're more symbiotic than that. Okay, all right, fine, I can, because Cat does shoot a lot of the threes that Anthony Edwards does not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Anthony Edwards is just a volume shooter in a way that you know.
Speaker 1:Again, he shoots zero threes and he does shoot some, but he's not as efficient as Cat Cat's really efficient shooting threes.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, especially for a guy of Cat's size, it's definitely a lot, Definitely a big help for this team. But I just feel like Anthony Edwards has really taken the torch to be the face of this team talking all the trash to KD throughout the whole series, Honestly. To be the face of this team talking all the trash to KD throughout the whole series, Honestly. He's letting everybody hear about the fact that they are here. They're not scared of anybody and they're just ready to ball.
Speaker 1:And I believe him.
Speaker 2:And heck the series. The only second-round series that has played any games as of yet is the Timberwolves and the Nuggets that have been in the second round and the Timberwolves won that game pretty. It was actually a pretty close game but the Timberwolves got it by Anthony Edwards scoring. Let's see, let me make sure I have that. I have the amount of points right. Anthony Edwards scored another 40 points, 43 points in this game. So even Jokic being as powerful as he is, and you have Jamal Murray, they weren't even able to really, especially when they were playing at Minnesota. They weren't able to get that game one win.
Speaker 2:In that situation, this Timberwolves team may be able to do a lot more than we once thought, especially coming into the playoffs. The Timberwolves were looked at as the hey, we'll believe when we see it type of team and as of right now, they are showing it and we have to believe it. Next, you got luca and kairi. They look scary in this, in that series against the clippers. You had a couple games early on where they look like the Clippers were able to really hold on and really play well. But in general, I just think that when you have Kyrie Irving and Luka playing at their best, you have two guys that are legitimate superstars in their own right. Oh, like I was saying earlier about the star power being left, kyrie Irving's probably the oldest superstar left in the playoffs and he's not a superstar.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know he's old.
Speaker 2:He's in his young 30s. He's like 32, 33 years old.
Speaker 1:No one ever says young 30s, when they say 30s.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, what I'm saying is not like he's like 38, 39. I feel like that's a line of demarcation where if you're getting past the 35, you mark you are old in the nba whatever.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't know, I don't care about basketball okay, kairi, luca, if it honestly doesn't matter who of each of one of them are, go or be able to playing their best basketball for the night. It feels like the other one just kind of takes up the slack for the other, and then you have that team that's very well built around them. You have Lively. You have let me make sure I got the names right. You got Derek Lively. You got Luca. You got Kyrie. Why am I forgetting? There's one other guy's name that I wanted to do.
Speaker 2:What does it help when I always go to like all these websites and everything has to start playing sounds just not helpful whatsoever. Um, one of the guys they really want to talk about, um pal, has all. No, no, it's Josh Green. Josh Green has been a very big contributor for this team and there really isn't a lot of like outside of those two. You have a lot of spare parts that you really don't think are going to be able to compliment them well, but it's a lot of size, it's a lot of defense being able to be played, and they can shoot threes when they're able to get the ball.
Speaker 2:So, with all that being the case, I do feel like they have a. They have a team that's very well built around these two superstars and they are able, when the game slows down and when it's time to get a bucket, either one of them are able to take the ball and just ready to go, kind of capped by Kyrie being able to literally put the whole freaking uh, the whole Clippers team on skates has hit this three-point shot in a way that you know it's just not a lot of guys can do in the NBA, in a way that Kyrie can. Even though, jace, you don't think he's necessarily a superstar, I think with the skills that he has he's looked as like one of the most offensively skilled guys in the NBA, potentially of all time the handles that.
Speaker 2:He has the way he's able to shoot and with, honestly, to a certain extent, the magic like the, the magic he's able to do with the basketball, either either at the rim or, uh um, dribbling. He's just a very he's a very, uh, complicated guy to guard and it's just very hard to stop him. And then Luca, at the same pace, is like Luca plays. He's able to make anybody play his pace of basketball because he is so smart he's not the most athletic, obviously, luca, but he is able to start and stop himself so quickly, either to be able to drive to the basket or be able to get himself a shot at the three point line. It just seems like he's able to make the whole game play at his pace. And if you're able to control a game like that, it just makes everything. It just seems like everything is just like in the power of in the palm of his hand when he is in control of a basketball game. So I have to give luke a lot of credit there that he's just playing some very good basketball as well on the clippers, kawaii, not really being able to play all that much. You have obviously hardened, only playing one game of great consequence and then really not doing much else throughout. And you have PG.
Speaker 2:I think the Clippers are a team that could easily be dismantled after this year and nobody would bat an eye.
Speaker 2:Because when this Clippers team was put together, it seemed like with Kawhi, with PG, it's like, oh, this could be a team that can really like go for it long term and really try to go off championships, but with the health of Kawhi always being an issue with the health of PG.
Speaker 2:It just seemed like PG has definitely been more healthy throughout this, but he has had some times where he has been unhealthy at the wrong time and it's kind of hits them in this, the perfect way to kind of take them out of being able to do anything throughout the rest of the season. And then, adding Harden to this, I feel like Harden has done well throughout his time with the Mavs, I mean with the Clippers. But with all of that being the case, do you believe in Harden being able to be a consistent contributor in the playoffs in a way that you need him to Like not just, oh, just be there to give you assist, harden, but you need the beard, you need the guy. That's a lethal offensive scoring machine and Harden hasn't been that in a long time, especially in the playoffs. And even in his heyday he was still kind of a liability in really giving you what you need in the big moments in the playoffs.
Speaker 1:He was always a liability in the playoffs.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and now, with him being a lesser player because he's a little bit older, I just don't think you can really trust that long-term to you know really together. So I think they might start piecing this team apart in trying to start from scratch again. But the only problem with that is the Clippers are coming into a brand new stadium Like they're going to want people to come to this. Come, get, come into the seats. But again, when you have a rich owner in Balmer that's as rich as he is and willing to spend however much necessary, I do feel like they can really put the team back together. That can at least be maybe, if not star-studded, at least a well-rounded team that you can pay some good money to. Okay, so next series you got Celtics Dismantling the Heat A Jimmy Butler-less Heat 4-1. You had the one game where the Heat were shooting the lights out, where I feel like the Heat Broke their own team record For three hits in the night.
Speaker 1:No, they broke a NBA record. Oh, did they really? Yeah, 33 Shot in one playoff game, made two. Well, there we go. It was an NBA record they had broke and then proceeded to keep breaking. That was their first game.
Speaker 2:I felt like it was game two.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but it was one of the games where they were just absolutely elite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was game two. Yeah, it was game two 1-11, 1-on-1 when they won that game. But outside of that it was the Heat were just overmatched in this series, especially without Jimmy Butler. There was just nobody that you can count on to keep the Heat going offensively.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't say overmatched, I'd say more. Boston got lucky that Jimmy. Butler wasn't there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm saying without Jimmy Butler they were overmatched. Oh yeah, that's what I was saying. So if Jimmy Butler was there he'd be able to keep that offense going. Jimmy Butler's able to go to the basket.
Speaker 1:He kind of initiates offense. Boston's bounce first round if Jimmy Butler's healthy Go ahead, say he's not. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:I can't say that for sure.
Speaker 1:Those games are close without? No, they weren't 114-94.
Speaker 2:104-84. 102-88. 118-84. Now how many was Tatum scoring? Let's see Tatum 20. He was in the 20s the whole time. It wasn't like he was doing super Herculean efforts at all.
Speaker 1:Those numbers drop. When they get Jimmy Butler Maybe Not even. Maybe they get Jimmy Butler, maybe Not even. Maybe he gives you all the defense.
Speaker 2:No, for sure he plays better defense. I'm not going to sit here and say that Jimmy Butler wins in that series. I'm not trying to. I'm just trying to give the Celtics some credit here that they have looked like a better team all year. And do I think this is a longer series with Jimmy Butler? Yes, I totally believe so.
Speaker 1:Whatever, you want to say bro.
Speaker 2:I don't need your explanation I hate you.
Speaker 2:Hate me all you want. All right, let me get off of that series. There's really too much to talk about. Otherwise, celtics just handled the heat. Without Jimmy Butler, pacers beat the Bucs in a 4-2 series win.
Speaker 2:Honestly, without Giannis, the defense on this Bucs team just kind of goes way down. And even with a guy like Dame Dollar as the head honcho for your team, it just felt like the Pacers were just able to run up and down the basketball court. They were a younger team. Tyrese Halliburton came to play every night and was ready to go. You just had a very young team in the Pacers that honestly did not fear the Bucs, and I feel like that obviously does change when you have a Giannis on the court. But without him there is no overwhelming defensive presence, especially in the same way of Giannis's. So the pace was able to get up and down the basketball court. They were able to score points. They have they've had so many different offensive contributors for this team that they were just able to kind of, for the most part other than the two games they lost get on top of the of the bucks and just never let go of the lead for the most part, even in that last game, even though the bucks reallys didn't really want to go away, pacers still won the game 120-98. So it just felt like without the defensive boost of a guy like Giannis being an all-NBA type of defensive player every single year, the Bucs defense just kind of just went out the window and the Pacers were able to take advantage of that. And not to mention, at the end of this game you have a little bit more news you have.
Speaker 2:Why am I getting Patrick Beverly? He throws a basketball at a couple of fans, hits one lady in the head and then gets the ball back and then throws it again at another fan. So him throwing basketballs at fans in the middle of a game is going to be a huge deal. And then, not to mention that after the game he was talking to the media and then one of the media people, he's like hey, are you subscribed to my pod? She says no. She's like get the microphone out of my face. And he literally tells her to go away. It's very dismissive, borderline.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to like some people have gone towards misogynistic, but like obviously it can be seen that way. I'm not. I feel like that could have been a dude and he would be to have that same type of energy, but again, when you already have, like when you already did that during the game and you know everybody saw you throw a basketball at a fan and hit one lady in the head I just feel like you. He dug his hole even deeper when he went and did that after the game.
Speaker 2:Especially when you're a guy of his stature where, yes, he is an okay piece to a team, but are you irreplaceable? I don't think so. If you're going to be more trouble than you are worth, you're going to be out of the NBA really fast. I feel like, with Patrick Beverly making a whole career out of being that defensive stalwart, with Patrick Beverly making a whole career out of being that defensive stalwart, being the guy that you would like to have on your team but being an annoyance if he's not on your team, I just feel like they can find that in spades throughout either college basketball or throughout the G League and all that. You can find pieces that give you what Patrick Beverly can give you and I just feel like he is kind of hammering the nail to his own coffin on his NBA career, because I just don't feel like An NBA team that wants to sign you after that.
Speaker 2:He's been on like four or five teams in the last two years. So, with all that being the case, I just don't think Especially. He's a little bit older too. This may be the last little bit of your NBA career, and he's putting that in jeopardy by being a little bit of a hot, not just a little bit being a definite hothead at the end of games doing stupid stuff. It's not something you can do, man. I just feel like you have to be smarter. It's funny because when you start your own podcast, you have to start thinking about your own public relations and you have to have people like you if you want them to come and listen to you do something outside of what you do right.
Speaker 2:So like, if you want your that podcast for your future, you have to think, you have to be, like you know, a little bit more savvy when it comes to your image and stuff like that. But pastor beverly, in the heat of competition, them getting blown out, at that point um could not see through his rage and kind of did some things he shouldn't have done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, he's always been a hothead though.
Speaker 2:He has, and he's going to get suspended. It's going to be a nice long one and what sucks is going to be going in next season because you know his season is over. So not not to mention when you, when you're be for doing all this. So I just feel like this is a very bad situation for him.
Speaker 2:And maybe he gets a job next year or not, I have no clue, but he's putting his NBA career in the front office's hands when it comes to the NBA front office. So you know sucks that guys want to make decisions like that. All right, nick style play led by Jalen Brunson proved too much for the 76ers, led by an injured Embiid, but Tyrese Maxey showed out. So Embiid did not really look all that healthy in this series. He was able to do some things offensively, but when it came to defense he wasn't nearly as effective. What was the other?
Speaker 2:Embiid was coming off of the meniscus injury and then what was it? Palsy, cerebral palsy or something like that that he also was dealing with. It's like cerebral palsy. I always thought it was cerebral palsy, but it's something else. It was like something with his face, something like that, where you have like his uh, he's not able to control like half his face, or something like that's cerebral palsy, okay. So he was dealing with he's dealing with that as well, and it kind of came out when, um, people were looking at his face while he's on the ground or something like that, and his face was moving all weird. Um, so that was something he had to deal with as well. So with all of that, embiid wasn't able to be close to the player he once was, at least earlier on in the season.
Speaker 2:And then you have Tyrese Maxey pretty much having to carry the load for the 76ers team against a Knicks team led by Jalen Brunson. Who Jalen just comes, he shows out to play every night. He's able to play very well. They have very good pieces around him to where they're all able to contribute you have. Why am I forgetting? Josh? Hart was definitely a big guy in this series, was able to play a couple big games when they needed him to. You have. Let me see here Toppin was able to have a pretty big game in that series, pretty big games in that series. Mitchell Robinson was also a big one. You just have a lot of. It's a very well put together team that is able to do a lot around Jalen Brunson and led by him, who maybe isn't the. I think he's ascending into a superstar Not superstar, but definitely into a star status and he's just able to play big games when necessary, when this team needs him to, he's able to play well. Again, I'm done giving the Knicks any sort of credit here.
Speaker 1:That was quick, that was very quick.
Speaker 2:I know, but it's our stepdad's team and I'm just like it makes me feel yucky when I have to give him credit. And, like I mentioned, there's only one second round game that has been played. With the second round games, you have Thunder Mavs in the second round. That's going to start tomorrow. What did I say? No, on the 7th. You have the Pacers-Knicks. They're going to be facing each other in the second round. That game is tomorrow. And then you have the Celtics waiting for whoever wins in the Cavs and Magic series, and that game will be played a couple days from now as well.
Speaker 1:So that is it for the NBA stuff, thank God.
Speaker 2:God damn, let's just go on to some NBA stuff so Jace can be a little bit more involved. All right, this is a thing that kind of people were talking about. So I kind of want to get into it ourselves about the drafted quarterbacks that came into the NFL in the first round. So I just kind of want to go through each of their situations and kind of give a talk about a little bit what they're walking into and just kind of give a rating based off of our confidence in what they are going to be able to do in the year one, like how set up are they for success? And we'll rate it from one to ten and just kind of give our thoughts on it. Sound good, all right, so do you want to do it in order of how they were drafted or you just want to go?
Speaker 1:the other way, I don't care Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, let's go with um. Let's go with how they were drafted. So we're gonna start with the Chicago bears, who drafted Caleb Williams to be their nice new shiny quarterback going into um Williams to be their nice new shiny quarterback going into next year. Let's go ahead and all right. So with the pieces around him that's going to like, obviously, caleb coming into a team, you have the same coaching staff from last year. You have, actually you have do you do have a new office coordinator. I believe in Luke Getzey, I believe his name is. I believe that's his name. So you have a new offensive coordinator. That's going to probably give you a little bit more offense. The defense was pretty good last year, so the defense is pretty much going to be all pretty much the same coming into this year.
Speaker 2:Offensively, they have put a lot of pieces around Caleb Williams in order to help him succeed. Wide receiver wise, you have Keenan, like you already had DJ Moore. They added Keenan Allen to the situation. They added Roma Dunzay with the ninth pick overall. Being a young wide receiver, you can kind of pair up with Caleb Williams to kind of like have their careers with. They'll be on the same type of career trajectory with their age and all of that. They added Keenan Allen to this team as well as a more veteran presence. I feel like Keenan Allen will probably be more of a slot with this team with all the talent that they have around him, I feel like Keenan Allen, with him being a route master, it just makes more sense for him to be on the inside being able to get some tough catches, be able to help out Caleb with some in-between-the-hash-marks type of catches. That's going to be a big for them.
Speaker 2:Dj Moore, I already said, being more the big play guy. Rome being more of like the. He's not necessarily going to be able to run by people, but he's going to be able to get tough catches over the top. Throw it up, have him go get it. Definitely going to be a big help. Tight end-wise, they already have Cole Komet, which is looked at as one of the better tight ends in the NFL. They have Gerald Everett. The guy that came over from the Chargers is a big tight end and was able to be very productive with a bad Chargers team. So the idea that he will be a second-string tight end on a team like this that has a lot more weapons, he'll be a big move for them. Robert Tanyan was also a productive tight end when he was with the Packers and Aaron.
Speaker 2:Rodgers, tanyan, it's Tanyan, it's Tanyan, is it?
Speaker 1:Tanyan.
Speaker 2:Tanyan. Okay, robert Tanyan.
Speaker 1:I remember because Madden used to say it.
Speaker 2:Okay, there you go. So, even with him, you have three very good tight ends that you can rely on, even if you have an injury or two. So I feel like, with what they have around Caleb Williams, I think the only real question I have about it is can he work within the offense that they're going to put around him? Can he take the? Because it felt like a lot of times at USC he was looking for the big play all the time. So in the NFL, a lot of times you have to take the five-yard, take the seven yards. You have to be able to inch your way down the field sometimes when they're not giving you the big plays. But other than that and I obviously have a question of whether the offense can be built around him to really succeed, because they have all the talent in the world Are you going to have an offense that's going to be able to do what they need to do on a down-and-down?
Speaker 2:Oh, running back, they have Roshan, they have DeAndre Swift, who they just signed, who's a very big running back I he was very productive for the Eagles last year and I feel like he'll be a lot happier now without a quarterback that's going to be stealing his, his, his touchdowns at the goal line. So you have DeAndre Swift, you have Khalil Herbert. Still, um, you do have Roshan Johnson was a pretty productive running back for them last year, so they have some running backs as well that's able to do some things, with the only questions being maybe Caleb not being able to do the take the little bit they're giving you. And then, not to mention the offense coordinator. Do I believe in him to really put an offense around Caleb to really help him succeed? I'm not sure about that whatsoever. So, with all that being the case, if I had to rate, I'd give him a B 1 to 10.
Speaker 2:1 to 10. Rating. That's a little bit easier than doing it. I'd give him a 7. You think 7?
Speaker 1:The Bears have shown they can't help quarterbacks. They've had two other quarterbacks. They're not good with quarterbacks. They've had two other quarterbacks. They're not good with quarterbacks. I mean I'm going to shoot. They need to stop drafting motherfuckers because they can't pick quarterbacks. And if they do pick them, they can't fucking develop them. And if they can't develop them, they can't run an offensive scheme around them. They couldn't develop Mitch Trubisky because he wasn't that good, but they ran a great offensive scheme around him. They didn't develop Justin Fields, Didn't give him out and didn't run a good offensive scheme around him.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:Now you have everything around him. I mean the offensive scheme you're going to try to run ain't going to fucking work.
Speaker 2:We can't say that for sure you know why?
Speaker 1:Because this motherfucker don't take checkdowns. You never once saw him at USC take a fucking checkdown. No, he's even that bitch downfield.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is where I'm going to have to cape up for Caleb Williams, which I never really thought I'd have to do.
Speaker 2:I do feel like, with the team that Caleb Williams had around him at USC when he had no defense and no defense to speak of whatsoever either, one of the two years he was he was there I do feel like that kind of gets into your head that, hey, I have to make the plays to win this game because I have no confidence in the idea that, hey, my defense can get a stop for us to win.
Speaker 2:And not to mention, the offensive line wasn't necessarily all that great for him either. So I just feel like there were some things against him at USC that took him down that road to only want big plays because he's worried about, hey, once I give this ball up, what's going to happen on the other side? I feel like, maybe coming into a team that has a defense that has more pieces around him, maybe that will allow him to be more of a more of a guy that can manage a game and not necessarily always look for the big play. Whether we see it or not is one thing, but I do feel like that there was some circumstances at usc that brought out the worst qualities in him that maybe if he gets into a situation where that's not necessarily the case, he can be a little bit better bro, it's the fucking bears.
Speaker 1:I'm not trusting them with shit Again.
Speaker 2:I just feel like the way I look at them right now, I'm going to have to give them an 8 because with all the pieces they're putting around him, if he's just a mediocre quarterback, I feel like they can win some games this year with the team they have around him.
Speaker 2:So as long as they don't put too much on him too, I feel like last year it's a little bit different of a situation, but with the Texans, right, you could tell early on in the season they were trying to hold CJ Stroud back and not give him too much.
Speaker 2:But you can tell as the season went along he was progressing more and more and they were putting not only a bigger offense around him, giving him more and more plays, but they were putting more in his hands when it came to being able to control the line of scrimmage, being able to control plays, change them up, being able to and they put the offense in his hands at times later on in the season when he showed he was willing to be a gamer In that Buccaneers game where they were scoring 40-something points.
Speaker 2:They were going back and forth. There was no running the football and heck, the Texans were one of the worst teams running the football. Last year the Texans were one of the worst teams running the football last year. It got to a point where if they weren't throwing they weren't in these games. So if the Bears can feed him slowly and only give him what he can handle and not just kind of throw it all on him at once, I do feel like they have all the ingredients to have a successful run from the start. But again, it's just all based on what they want to do it.
Speaker 1:Hopefully they don't overload caleb from the beginning, because let's be honest, that's exactly what the bears want to fucking do, you're not you're, you know what that's.
Speaker 2:They don't necessarily have. They don't have the room to be getting any grace in the situation. So I get the negativity that you have in this. So I, I totally, I totally get it, I do, I do so. I would say eight, though, just because I do think they are, they have everything around him and it's just the question they do have are manageable. I give him a six, you've, oh, you're now down on even more down, huh, seven to a six. Okay, um, we'll go pick two. Uh, jayden daniels, second quarterback pick, going to the Washington Commanders. Give him a five, you think so?
Speaker 1:This is a whole new organization, from top to bottom. They have a lot to try to figure out. So five, they have the most to figure out on how they're going to do everything Like. This is new owner, they have a new coach, they have, I think, two new coordinators. This is a brand new fucking team. That's true. Top to bottom, so I'm going to give them a. He's a five, okay, because he's also the biggest boomer bus quarterback.
Speaker 2:You think so. I feel like I saw more in college of him like making, having to make like real accurate throws in college, yes, but he was also propped up by the two best receivers.
Speaker 1:He had the best receivers out of any quarterback.
Speaker 2:He's coming into a good situation as well. At wide receiver, he's getting Terry McLaurin, he's getting Let me see who's the other wide receiver Jameson Crowder, who's a little bit older, but he is good, and that's all well and good. John Dotson, that's all well and good.
Speaker 1:Sam Howell got sacked like 50 something times last year the offensive line is definitely an issue and guess what team did not address the offensive line?
Speaker 2:not very well the commanders.
Speaker 1:So guess who. Guess what motherfucker you have to ride him and who's in that? Division Cow. So guess who guess what motherfucker you have to ride in Him and who's in that division Cowboys Giants. He's not running for Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2:Right, the Giants has got Burns, not Burns.
Speaker 1:Yeah, burns, burns, burns. Kayvon Thibodeau, they have a good defense. He's not running from them either. Go ahead, who's the last team?
Speaker 2:That would be.
Speaker 1:Eagles oh, he's fucking cut, bro's cut he's fucked Tight end.
Speaker 2:They have Logan Thomas, who's a very good tight end, was able to do.
Speaker 1:Very well, it does not matter bro, it's not going to be upright.
Speaker 2:They have Austin Alclair running back.
Speaker 1:He's not going to be upright, it don't matter.
Speaker 2:Brian Robinson also a big catch out of the backfield type of guy.
Speaker 1:Gang. They can't run the ball. Where are they going to run the ball at? They have to face probably three of the better defenses in the NFL, especially on the NFC side. Those are probably three of the best defenses going in the NFC.
Speaker 2:Especially at the defensive line. Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there is nowhere to go. Did you know what's funny those three teams? Well fucking blitzing they don't. You know why None of them have good secondaries. You know what Eagles just fucking fixed this year?
Speaker 2:Secondary. They got a good fucking secondary Yep.
Speaker 1:You know what you can do, Jack? Fucking shit. Oh, I so for six games, six you're going to be facing defensive lines that are going to be able to destroy you and you are probably not going to be able to get away from them all the time Because, I'll be honest with you, Kavon Thibodeau will hawk your ass down and we all know Michael Parsons will hawk your ass down.
Speaker 2:And Burns too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the other thing. Now they all have good linebackers. The Eagles, you know, are like eh, meh they are meh Linebacker, but there's five dudes up there all on the defensive line, Especially now if their secondary can hold up a little bit better. Yeah, one of them's coming to get you.
Speaker 2:No, I get it there's nowhere you can go.
Speaker 2:But I will give them. They do have the offensive coordinator, cliff Kingsbury. He was the former head coach for the Cardinals with Kyler Murray he is able to put an offense together that potentially could bring out the best in Jaden Daniels even without an offensive line, using the quarterback run and stuff like that. So maybe and obviously they do a quarterback run and they also do the spread out system three, four wide receiver sets. I do feel like they can spread you out a little bit. That'll help out the offensive line just a tad bit. But they tried to do that shit.
Speaker 1:Last year it didn't work.
Speaker 2:The officers you're saying they, they can run. They ran last year, it did not work. Yeah, but I think jane daniels is a little bit more mobile, like he's able to run away from people you might be right.
Speaker 1:You might be right yeah, straight ahead speed.
Speaker 2:He's not necessarily the guy like lamar that's going to be able to like the juke you out of shoes, but he's going to be able to run away from defensive linemen On both sides. Why do I got to say it like?
Speaker 1:that On both sides bro.
Speaker 2:No, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Their weakest positions are their right and left tackle.
Speaker 2:bro, I'm going to say like a five, I'm giving you a five, that's what I gave him Fuck it.
Speaker 1:You told me who's in his division A three. He's setting a new sack record, bro.
Speaker 2:I just think that he's going to be able to do some things, but when it comes to his own division, it's going to be kind of a hard sell, he's hurt by week four.
Speaker 2:And here's what I'll also say is that he's not coming into a spot where he is, like he's supposed to be, the savior right. This team knows that they have to take more and more steps to kind of be that team in a way that Caleb is coming into a spot where he's going to be have a lot more pressure on him to succeed from the get go because of how many weapons that he has. So I do think, when it comes to expectations, daniels doesn't necessarily have the same, and I agree, so that helps a little bit.
Speaker 1:I think the bears play worse competition.
Speaker 2:Their division is going to be crazy.
Speaker 1:What do they?
Speaker 2:play the lions Packers Pack. The Bears play worse competition. Their division is going to be crazy too. Who do they play the Lions Packers Packers were good last year.
Speaker 1:The Bears beat the Packers last year.
Speaker 2:It didn't matter. By the end of the year, the Packers were a juggernaut.
Speaker 1:And I understand, but the Bears still beat the Packers with who?
Speaker 2:The Packers barely lost to the Niners. Who the fuck was? That quarterback for the Bears.
Speaker 1:I think it the designers for the bears um, I think phil's fields.
Speaker 2:Yeah, feels the quarterback that game. They beat him so I know. But I'm saying like, when it comes to what those teams look like right now, from what we saw last of the packers, they were a very good football team yes, but the bears zone, we can also beat them, so I'm not and he also minnesota.
Speaker 2:Obviously minnesota is going to be breaking in, probably a new quarterback in jj m, jj McCarthy, but, like outside of that, they have a very good offense.
Speaker 2:Their defense isn't necessarily going to be as great but they have good pieces. But I think Minnesota is probably the weakest of the all of them because you don't know what JJ McCarthy is going to be. But, like outside of that, they do have a very good division that they're going to have to face and, like I said, the expectations I think for the Bears are going to be a little, a lot higher because caleb's coming in as the shiny new toy that looks like, looked at as the perfect guy that can come in and just like with all the well, all the weapons that you have. You have to be good from day one and, not to mention, I do have to say, with what cj was able to do last year, I do feel like it's going to be raising what people are going to be looking at from these rookie quarterbacks in year one, even though I think CJ was an admir Not admiration, but a Anomaly.
Speaker 2:He was an anomaly for what rookie quarterbacks. He had the second best rookie campaign ever in the NFL. So I just don't think that's going to be a trend that's going to start happening. I feel like that was a perfect spot where CJ was ready to go from day one and they kind of had a whole team.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying I feel like he's going to skew people's perspectives on what you want your quarterback to do from year one.
Speaker 1:Bro, please, I don't want to talk about CJ's job.
Speaker 2:Okay, I wasn't trying to, I was just saying like that was something that came to my brain as we were talking about them three times already. I feel like, just you're like, once I say the word c and j, you instantly go like your brain starts hearing uh, monkeys, the monkey clapping is like you're hearing the tambourine clap.
Speaker 1:It's like brain rot, bro, hurry up.
Speaker 2:Okay, sorry, sorry. I had a good thought. It wasn't like me just trying to bring his name up just for fun. Whatever, suck him all later. I wasn't trying to, I really wasn't. Drake May pick number three for New England.
Speaker 1:Fucking two, two. He is nothing, okay.
Speaker 2:England fucking to to. He has nothing. Okay, they did right. They drafted a little bit to help him, okay. Okay, who did draft? Let me, let me go into the roster here. Let me go ahead, get that. Get that going all right. Wide receiver. Um, they already had Kaysha uh Kendrick Bourne, who was a decent wide receiver last year. Kayshaun Boutte wasn't bad, he was, he was okay last year. They did draft uh jalen polk, the wide receiver from uh. That was wide receiver from washington who was very good for uh playing with them that's decent that was a pretty good wide receiver for them to get up um.
Speaker 1:They didn't get anybody else Cool and they didn't have much to start with.
Speaker 2:On the Patriots and then, tight end-wise, they have Hunter Henry, so that's a very good pass-catching tight end.
Speaker 1:They have Austin Hooper, I know, but he's definitely starting from the worst point.
Speaker 2:But I do think there is a chance that they may not start him from day one.
Speaker 1:Who the fuck else is going to play?
Speaker 2:They got Brissette, jacoby Brissette. He is a very good bridge type of quarterback that they can just sit here and say, drake May, you're going to sit here, you're going to learn, we're going to make sure you know our offense and we're going to let you take all the time you need in order to be ready to play. And I do think, with Jagobe Brissett and I feel like with the coming back to the expectations for the team coming off of, you have a brand new coaching staff. You have Belichick that's gone. They're trying to have a brand new day in this Patriots locker room and for this team.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're coming into the season saying we have to win a bunch of games.
Speaker 2:So I do think that they're going to be able to take this slowly. Tell Drake May hey, you're going to stay here, you're going to learn, you're going to learn the offense, you're going to learn how to be an NFL player, and then we will be able to get you out when you are ready. So I do feel like that bumps it a little bit, because he's not coming in having to be the savior for this franchise from day one. I do feel like they can slow play this, even slower than any other quarterback situation at all. Right, probably other than you know, other than the Falcons, I do feel like they can really slow play this and really wait until Drake May is ready. If it takes a year, if it takes two years, I feel like they are on a timetable where they can do that because this team is going to need so many pieces. It's going to take another draft or two to get to where this team is going to be good enough around him to do anything.
Speaker 1:I completely agree. It's just I don't even think he might. I don't know if he goes out there this year, because Jacoby Brissett can absolutely get you into a playoff. They're not getting into the playoffs, but he can win you some games, yes, and I think he's going to win you enough games to maybe look you're going to look at it as an owner or a coach like, eh, let's just keep him in there. Yeah, Keep winning some more games, get a decent enough draft pick and then go back at it next year.
Speaker 2:Let's go build it again. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go back at kind of backup I want.
Speaker 2:And he's a cool bridge quarterback, Like he doesn't care about having a young guy that he has to help to like you know, help teach, and not to mention I think Jacoby Brissett last year didn't really have an opportunity to cause.
Speaker 2:He was at Washington last year. He wasn't a fan of how that went when it comes to I was given no opportunity to start at all. It was pretty much he was just there just to be a backup. But if you give him an opportunity to start some games, show what he can do I do feel like he can be good towards a young quarterback and help them learn. I just feel like he's a pretty good bridge guy and I feel like that only ups the situation Drake May is going to be in, because there won't be any expectations of him in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree of him in general. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:So if I had to, I would say his was probably better than Jaden Daniels. I'm probably going to give him like a six.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to stick at three. That team is just not good, because that team also has zero fucking defense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just feel like him. Not having to play helps him himself.
Speaker 1:He's in a good situation.
Speaker 2:I meant, I just said the situation that they are in, not necessarily in starting yeah three.
Speaker 1:Their current situation is a three Okay, so I don't think any players are going to sit for a year.
Speaker 2:I don't think he's. Maybe he's ready to go by the end of the season and be able to give him a few starts to kind of get his feet wet, Because he is a young guy, he's 21 years old. But I do feel like they're the fact.
Speaker 1:They can slow play. It gives me a little more confidence in the situation in general that they are not going to throw him out there to get burned by everybody does not change what I feel.
Speaker 2:It's definitely a three all right um pick. Who was the fourth quarterback? It was? Oh yeah, it was the falcons all right um.
Speaker 2:The fourth quarterback picked was michael pinnock michael pinnock jr from the for the uh atlanta falcons. This one was the weirdest one. Obviously. We already talked about this before, about how they nobody really thought the falcons were to be going after the quarterback, especially with them drafting kirk cousins me not drafting but signing him to the 180 million dollar deal with 100100 million guaranteed. So nobody really thought they were going to do this, especially with the eighth pick overall. But they drafted him.
Speaker 2:So now you're going to have him sit behind a Kirk Cousins, a Kirk Cousins coming off of a meniscus injury. So who knows when he's going to be ready to go? When this offseason starts, when camp starts and all that injury? So who knows when he's going to be ready to go when this offseason start, when this uh, when camp starts and all that? So what happens when you have Kirk Cousins not able to throw every day because he's going to need some maintenance and you're going to have Michael Penix Jr ready to go, sitting there throwing missiles all over the place because he's already a more talented passer than what Kirk Cousins was, at least from what I have seen.
Speaker 2:Maybe he doesn't know the offense as well, but when it comes to physically, there is no way they're going to look at Michael Penix and be like, oh, he is a more imposing guy for this team, especially when you have a bunch of young receivers like a running back. All of them are very young. So when you get Kirk Cousins, who is the square, that he is not working on Tuesdays and all that, and then you're going to have him go out, sometimes you're going to have Michael Penix coming in and showing the crazy arm that he has. I feel like this could be a situation where, even if Kirk Cousins is told that he's a starter from day one, by day two they look at him like we were lying the team may look at it different, because they're like oh, we have Michael Penick sitting here and he looks like the better guy.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be honest with you. You think Drake London or Kyle Pitts are going to stand there like, hey bro, this dude's throwing me four 30-yard passes. Get Kirk Cousins the fuck out of here, Right.
Speaker 2:The team is going to care about how much money you paid him.
Speaker 1:They're going to be like, hey, we want the best situation out of everybody See. I feel like this one's the worst situation because it's messy, it's messy but I think if he was to actually play, he has the best situation.
Speaker 2:Oh, if he's to actually play, for sure. But again, it's the worst part, they draft him. He's 24 years old, he doesn't need to sit, he needs to go play. But when you drafted him, like there's like they're like the uh owner that the gm said hey, if he sits for one, two or three years, that means we're doing something right, like no, you can't have michael pennix come in and play his first nfl downs as a quarterback when he's 27 years old. And the idea that this, this is messy and I'm saying I'm gonna, I'm ranking this one lower because it's just a met.
Speaker 1:I get all the talent around me If Michael Penix comes in and he is the day one starter it could work out the rating changes based on if he is starting day one, yeah, If he is not, then I probably agree with your rating Day one starting. Me personally, he's at fucking nine, Day one starting. They have a decent enough O-line. You have a great running back. You have a great receiving core. You have a good tight end. You have a great defense. Nine, easily. The offensive line is decent Like they're not bad Easily you have the best starting point of any quarterback.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you are way better Because you're on a team that't already good. Before they were, they were very meh. The falcons were already good before and they were winning. They would have won more games with better quarterback play right, so sure, nine.
Speaker 2:But here's my problem michael penick's not gonna start the year. You know why? Because they're paying kirk cousins 50 million dollars at signing. He's when he signed the contract is 50 million dollars going into his bank account and he's getting 100 million dollars in the first two years from the falcons. So guess what they're gonna want? They're not gonna want to have him sit around and do nothing for the 100 million dollars they're guaranteed to pay him. So guess what? And it's in, the problem is, when it comes to this stuff, that it's easier to start with the the older guy and then go to the younger guy, because if they start start Michael Penix to start the year and he somehow has a rough patch, to take him out and put Kirk cousins in is a even bigger problem.
Speaker 1:Kirk cousins is going to be consistent because he's consistent, he's not gonna make a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 2:Like it's easier to start with Kirk and have him mess it up and then give it to Michael Penix than it is to have Michael Penix in there, cause then you have to go to Kirk Cousins and it's like oh, it's going to make everybody question Michael Penix as well as. Oh, kirk is not too bad, he just makes the right play.
Speaker 1:He's not necessarily the greatest, until we get to round one and we get fucking bounced. Exactly.
Speaker 2:But the thing is they don't know what round one looks like. So like round one and a bounce looks pretty good right now. They haven't been to the playoffs since 28 to 3. I hope you don't plan monday night, fucking sunday night. I've perked her cousin isn't as bad at that. I'm the playoffs. It's definitely an issue when it comes to his.
Speaker 1:He can't play monday nights.
Speaker 2:He fucking sucks on monday night yeah, but they the teams that he's playing on those monday nights, not like he's playing trash teams.
Speaker 1:He's playing the best teams in the nfl and when you look at the vikings in the years they've been having they're supposed to be as good as them but they're not exactly, because Kirk Cousins ain't that fucking good.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's just because Kirk Cousins, I think it's the defense too.
Speaker 1:But okay, yeah on.
Speaker 2:There's been multiple Monday nights where Jay Jedis goes out there and gets 200 yards and he said they're like I don't know, fuck, you want it for me no, that's true, but again that's a D on the defense too, not getting stops, because the defense for that Vikings team has not really been all that great for the last few years it has never been great.
Speaker 2:I've never seen good Vikings like they were early on, like five, six years ago. They were a good defense but, like you know, that kind of aged out and was kind of over.
Speaker 1:I was gonna uh freaking Harris and their safety was still young yeah exactly my bad young or he would have still been like 28 yeah he, he is like 36 he's old. I'm gonna fact check myself, but I'm pretty sure he's that old but back to this fox situation.
Speaker 2:It's a very messy. Jason will look it up, but it's very messy and I just think if I had to rate the situation, I would probably give it like a four, because I just think this is so messy. There's so many dynamics within this team that is not necessarily set for Michael Penix to start from being able to. It's not clean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Harrison Smith is 35 going on 36.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:And he's still somehow the best defensive player on the team Oof. He is one of those guys that has been good for an uncommon amount of time. He's just always been on a bad team, so I think he's been a Viking his entire career.
Speaker 2:There you go, and they lost their defensive end.
Speaker 1:That was very good too, he went to the Texans yes, this dude has been a Viking his entire year.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I just feel like it's a very messed situation for this Falcons team and I just feel like Michael like if it could work out, michael Penix is their guy for the next 10 years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, but I just don't think he's 24. 10 years 34. When do you get to a point where you have to get rid of a player? It depends on how much he's getting paid If we're talking like he played 17,. At 35 he played 17 full games. He's still relatively healthy. Had 93 total tackles Not bad. 60 solo tackles Not bad. 33 assists, four sacks as a safety that's pretty fucking good Safety blitzes Two forced fumbles and four interceptions.
Speaker 2:Again, if they're not paying him all that much, I feel like they'll keep him around.
Speaker 1:Let me check that. Sorry, I don't ever think about him because it's like you're on the Vikings there's just a bad defense overall. So he kind of just like fades from my mind. But, damn, he was drafted in 2012. Dang bro, there's no way there's a single player still playing for that draft Besides him 2012 draft.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Let me look it up. Nfl 2012 draft. I feel like there are people still playing for 2012. Okay, Andrew Luck's gone. Rg3's gone. Richardson's gone. Matt Khalil I don't even know who he is. Blackman's gone. Morris Claiborne. Ryan Tannehill is still playing. He's a free agent right now, but he played last year.
Speaker 1:Okay, so he's done playing.
Speaker 2:Stephon Gilmore is still playing. Luke Kuechly retired because of injuries, but he retired. Fletcher Cox is still playing for the Eagles. You have Melvin Ingram still playing. No, I don't think he is. Chandler Jones still playing. David DeCastro retired. Let's see Dante Hightower he's gone right. Yes, let's see Harrison Smith, as we already mentioned. Doug Martin, already retired. David Wilson I don't even know who that is. He didn't really have much of a career. Huh Running back I don't even know who that guy is.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, this guy just got an extension in 2021.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go.
Speaker 1:Four years $64 million.
Speaker 2:Bobby Wagner's still playing. He was picking in the second round of that draft Four years, $64 million, not bad.
Speaker 1:Be some odd, he was picking in the second round of that draft. Yeah, four years, 64 million, not bad. Pretty decent amount of change, I know, but when you look at him he's 35, it's like damn. Four years, 64 million.
Speaker 2:Russell Wilson's still playing 26 26 million guaranteed. I forgot Russell Wilson was that part of that 2012 draft.
Speaker 1:That's wild yeah, at 35 you're making $64 million and earning your shit. That's the other part. You are earning your money, no question, when you were the only dude on your defense doing anything. He retires after this year, right.
Speaker 2:I don't know If he's still playing. Well, why not?
Speaker 1:$25 million is the end of his extension. 2025 is the end of his extension.
Speaker 2:You're telling me this dude's going to be what? 40? Or just playing off one-year deals Once he gets closer to 40, it's kind of iffy. That's the other thing. He's not injured. He's 35 right now. Right, yeah, so he's about 37 is when the last year of his contract will be 2025, bro, yeah, it's 2024 right now.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, yeah, it's 2024 right now.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, yeah I forgot, but yeah, there's not. I keep scrolling through all this, the 2012 draft. Not very many players still playing, so but yeah, there's a decent amount.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they're playing at the level that he is.
Speaker 2:Um, russell Wilson could potentially, but I don't. Yeah, it's not a lot, but there's still players that are playing for that 2012 draft never fucking injured.
Speaker 1:16, 16, 16, 15, 15, 16, 16, 15, 16, 16, 14, 17, bro, dang bro, what the fuck? Like you, you don't not play. No wonder he keeps getting paid you good and you're available. Oh, that's wild, sorry, I like I always think about it in madden he's always, like you know, on madden they have a cutoff for how many years you can play, like they just kind of force players to retire yeah, oh, when you're playing like franchise modes, yeah and in franchise mode they'll just kind of to make you want to not re-sign him, they'll just drop their overall.
Speaker 1:They do it to Cam Hayward all the time. They just drop his overall to like 70-something and then suddenly he just kind of fades out of your defense. They do it to Harrison Smith all the time, but every year he's always like a 90-something and every year I'm that's wild. But then I see him actually play in real life. I'm like man, this dude's fire. You're not wrong. All right, continue on Next quarterback.
Speaker 2:You have our boy, not our boy, but you know.
Speaker 1:McCarthy JJ. His is very, very weird because he's like we were just talking about. He has no fucking defense behind him.
Speaker 2:But he has so many offensive weapons.
Speaker 1:He might. Justin Jefferson still ain't showed up to camp.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:No, the camp hasn't happened yet, so it's voluntary workouts right now.
Speaker 2:He's never been he's not showing up, that's true.
Speaker 1:He still has.
Speaker 2:Jordan Addison, justin Jefferson, we already mentioned you have, he doesn't have Justin Jefferson already mentioned you have.
Speaker 1:He doesn't have Justin Jefferson. He don't have Justin Jefferson until Justin Jefferson's there.
Speaker 2:Yes, until they pay him. But if they pay him, it'll be it, that's it, it's over, he's there. But I'm just going to say, as if they do pay him and he'll be there, so they have one of the better wide receiver.
Speaker 1:This is reminding me of the fucking Stephon Dixon. They did the same thing when they drafted Justin Jefferson. He had a good year and they didn't play Diggs.
Speaker 2:No for sure. I feel like Justin Jefferson has played it well when it comes to relations with the team. Stefan Diggs is ready to nuke the issue in a way that he was able to do the same thing with the Bills.
Speaker 1:I hate how Stefan Diggs does that.
Speaker 2:He's ready to nuke everything right. I bills, he's ready to nuke everything right. I feel like justin jefferson has played a little bit more close, closely to the vest. He's able to be pretty good with the front office. I feel like he's playing nice, even though he's not showing up to voluntary workouts, but I do feel like that's a normal thing to do. Um, but I feel like the organization and him are on a good standing when it comes to hey, we're trying to get this done. If it doesn't get done, we'll. We'll trade you. It is what it is, but I don't feel like they hate each other. Stephon Diggs knows how to make people hate him if he wants to get out of a situation, so I think it's a little bit different here, tj Hawkinson being a tight end, one of the best tight ends in the NFL a very good weapon for JJ to be able to is coming.
Speaker 2:Is he coming off the acl?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, he is it was the one player from detroit took his fucking knee out but he's still relatively young, he's not? I don't think he's 30 yet no, no, no, he's like, so he's younger so he could still.
Speaker 2:He could still come out. No, I think he'll be fine. He'll come back being pretty good.
Speaker 1:He's one of the many freaking tight ends that were coming up in acl this year oh yeah, tight ends got destroyed last year. Now that safety did take out three of them it was him, mark Andrews and somebody else because he couldn't fucking tackle, so he was like I'm just going to launch myself at their knee. Yeah, I guess it works. Oh, it was the Rams tight end, the other one.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that Gibby? Nope, oh no, let me see rams higby tyler, higby yes that's his name. I was close, I was close, I was close it's tyler higby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he took out three tight ends last year and those aren't like three random tight ends, those are three top 10 tight ends, yeah no very, very good tight ends that they're taking out there.
Speaker 2:um, at running back, they have cam acres for that team, they have miles Myles Gaskin. They have Ty Chandler, who was a very good pass catching back out of the backfield, and they brought in Aaron Jones, who was a very good running back. As long as he can stay healthy, he's one of the better running backs in the NFL.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's never healthy.
Speaker 2:Well, last year he wasn't healthy, but before that he was a fairly healthy running back. But again, when it comes to the running back position, sometimes it's so good, so good, so good, and then just one year.
Speaker 1:You're just never the same. You are never playing again.
Speaker 2:And, not to mention, they have Sam Darnold there.
Speaker 2:So I feel like if JJ McCarthy isn't ready to play right away, sam Darnold can go in there, he can make plays, he can start the year and be able to win you some football games.
Speaker 2:As they're waiting for JJ McCarthy to be able to come along, they have one of the better offensive coordinators slash head coach in the NFL, in McConnell. Is it McConnell? I feel like that's his name, right, I forget his name, but he's one of the better offensive coordinators slash head coach in the NFL. So I do feel like they have a very good situation for JJ McCarthy, where they have the offensive system that he definitely fits for the way they play. They have a quarterback that can play if he's not ready yet, and they have a lot of weapons. As long as JJ is still coming back and paid and ready to go, they have a lot of weapons for when he does come in, he's going to be able to play well. So I do feel like this is probably like a 7. And I feel like the only question is is jj mccarthy going to be able to take on the load of?
Speaker 2:being the main guy for an offense it'll be a five or five, because I do feel like at michigan he was never looked at as having to. Hey, give it. We're gonna let you throw the ball 40 times and you're gonna have to win. This is football game. He's never have to been that guy. He's gonna have to been the guy to help on third down, on critical things, when he'll have to step up at Michigan. But in the NFL, if you're going to have to throw the ball 30 times, which he's never really done at Michigan is he going to be able to take on that load and be able to be efficient and be able to make good plays, good decisions and all that? That's the biggest question for him. And with all that being the case, they have everything else set up around him and he's going to be able to take time to get ready.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's like a seven. I feel like he's in a good spot where he can grow and when he's ready to go, they have a system around him and players that will be able to accentuate what he can do well, an offensive coordinator, slash head coach that will be able to put everything around him and you don't have to worry about the guy leaving. If he's good, right, he's already a head coach. There's no other job for him to go take. So I do feel like he has a very good situation he's walking into. It's all on him whether he's going to succeed or not. What'd you give five?
Speaker 1:okay, I feel like you've been more down on things than I have um, I drafted joe burrow and this nigga went out there and sucked for 14 games. Yeah, these motherfuckers are not as good as Joe Burrow, so yeah, I'm going to be realistic with these motherfuckers, and I watched Trevor Lawrence go number one and then suck for a bunch of games.
Speaker 2:Well, they did have Urban Meyer's. Exactly that did not work out well at all. Exactly.
Speaker 1:And I had Joe Scheisse who had fucking Jack Taylor's trash ass. Fun fact, we haven't even they haven't even said anything about it. They do not want him, no more. Mike Vrabel's out there, Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Mike.
Speaker 1:Vrabel's, out there You're going to play.
Speaker 2:The fact that Mike Vrabel doesn't have a job as a head of NFL head coach is a problem.
Speaker 1:If I'm the Bengals.
Speaker 1:I'm sitting here looking at Zach Killa. Hey, bro, you know you don't have a job next year. Right, you have no job here. It's Super Bowl or you're fired. And oh, bro, that's the thing. Even then, even the year we went to the Super Bowl, I was still looking at him like you're play calling his ass. Why the fuck isn't our starting running back out there? That was another thing. Who the fuck has Samadji Piran out there on fourth and four? Why isn't joe mixing out there? I was saying that shit before the play started. Why isn't joe mixing out there? Why isn't? Why isn't mixing out there? Yeah, no, and then why are you running a fucking wheel route on fourth and four? We have the better receivers right now.
Speaker 2:Hey, I I've we've talked about that a lot where he is not a great office coordinator?
Speaker 2:no, he's not. You know it's funny. The guy that was supposed to that a lot where he is not a great offensive coordinator? No, he's not. You know, it's funny. The guy that was supposed to be doing that job. He is now the coach for the Tennessee Titans, so now it's even more on him to have the offense together ready to go for Joe Burrow. I'm not even sure I don't know who you guys brought in as an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1:I do not.
Speaker 2:I think you hired the quarterback coach. You upgraded him to office coordinator.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow and Jake Browning really like him and he can clearly coach quarterbacks. Jake Browning went in there and was decent for a while. He was no for sure.
Speaker 2:I have no doubt.
Speaker 1:You know what. I actually decently trust him.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's Joe Burrow's decision. I'm guessing they were like hey, who do you want? He's like just promote my quarterbacks, coach.
Speaker 1:That I'm guessing they were like hey, who do you want? He's like just promote my off my head quarterbacks, coach. That's they did is what I think, joe probably has input on that? Oh yeah, for sure, no question he probably looks at quarterback coaches like. I really like how he.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest, it's mostly a Joe Burr offense now anyway. So whatever he wants is what they're going to do. All right, last but not least, for the first round quarterbacks we have to talk about here. So, last but not least, it is the um uh bo nicks drafted to the broncos. That was at the 12th pick. Overall um, was it 12 or 13?
Speaker 1:I forget what it was.
Speaker 2:13 but bo nicks, I feel like I was the one I was calling this so early that 11, it was 11 the raiders were 12 and then somebody else was 13. He was 11 because no, but it wasn't 11, because the Vikings traded up from 11 to 10.
Speaker 1:McCarthy was 10, so it was 12?
Speaker 2:no, because who was who was? The Vikings were at 11, traded up to 10 to get McCarthy and then it was the whoever was at 10 draft went, went down to Picked their guy Picked whoever it was Wasn't a quarterback, and then it was 12. So it was 12 that the Broncos were at 11 Bo Nix. Bo Nix was at 11.
Speaker 1:Former Oregon quarterback Bo Nix was selected by Denver Broncos With the number 11 overall pick In the 2004 draft. Nix is coming off A length college career, like his whole thing.
Speaker 2:Maybe they traded up, it doesn't really matter. Okay, with all that being the case, bo Nix I was calling this very early. It just felt like, hey, sean Payton, bo Nix looks like my next Drew Brees, so I was calling that very early. It turned out that was the case, and I do feel like it was their only option, because I do feel like it was.
Speaker 1:There was no one else on the board.
Speaker 2:There was nobody else on the board at that point there was spencer rattlers.
Speaker 1:You want that?
Speaker 2:and spencer rattler was picked by the saints like four rounds later fuck yeah, he was so, all that being the all that being the case, I do feel like it is sean payton pretty much saying hey, bo nicks may not have shown everything he can do in college, but if, with under my coaching, I can turn him into my next drew breeze, and if he does that it'll be a great situation. But from what I saw bo nicks, it was. Maybe it's because it's messy.
Speaker 1:How he plays is messy.
Speaker 2:I don't like it at when he was at auburn. It was messy but I do feel like it was a. It was at Auburn. It was messy, but I do feel like it was cleaner at Oregon. It was much cleaner when he was playing there but it was a lot of short passes and then bombs down the field but it wasn't really a lot of like second-level passing 15, 20 yards out the field, drew Brees-like, exactly so, if I feel, and not to mention Well early, not to mention.
Speaker 2:Bo Nix will be a guy that can run away from some pressure, get some scamper for five, six yards or so.
Speaker 1:Is he a bigger quarterback?
Speaker 2:No, he's like right over six foot. He's not huge, he's a little bit.
Speaker 1:He's not small, he's not small by any means, he's about average size. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So he's going to be able to run away from some pressure as well. Get you five or six guards if necessary, I just feel like. But it's just with the fact they have that 50 million dollar, what is it? 50 million dollar cap that they're taking for russell wilson? That's a lot of help that you're not going to be able to get him I'm coming into this year.
Speaker 2:You have no receivers and they have no other quarterback, so like he is going to be starting from day one for this broncos team. And at wide receiver they trapped. They drafted his wide receiver out from Oregon Troy Franklin, who was a very good wide receiver at Oregon. But outside of him they do have Tim Patrick, who was a little bit. He was okay, but he was not.
Speaker 1:They have Corlin Sutton still.
Speaker 2:Corlin Sutton is still there. They have Marvin Mims who was like a small speedy guy, but he was more of a returner than he was a big play wide receiver. But they do have some weapons there. But again, I feel like the Broncos have been talking about trading Sutton. So if they trade him away, that might be a big deal because they'll have one less weapon to really rely on Tight end. They have what is it?
Speaker 2:Dulich, the guy that managed to be their starter throughout the year. Last year he played okay, but he wasn't necessarily the best. And then at running back, have giovanni williams. Still there's as their main guy, but he really can't stay healthy on a year-in-year-out basis, um, and then behind giovanni williams they have duane washington. They have some ajp ryan your favorite. And then, uh, jaleel mccough mccoughlin, who he made a couple big games last year if you were in fantasy, who he made a couple big games last year, if you were in fantasy at all. He had a couple big games, but other than that, he really wasn't necessarily a constant contributor for this Broncos team. So if I had to give this one a rating, I would give it.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit of a plus, because Sean Payton really does believe in Bo Nix and I feel like, as long as your coach is willing to do everything especially he's the office coordinator as well he's going to be able to put him in the best situation to be able to play well early on. I don't know. It's a great.
Speaker 1:He's such a good head coach and he can call such a great player. He can scheme guys open.
Speaker 2:Lack of weapons. The defense isn't all that great. They have some good defensive pieces but they traded some away. I know that's just. It's that one's hard it's. I'm gonna give it around a five because I just feel like they don't really have the team around him to really do they really like pop early, but I do feel like they have the coach they have some offensive pieces to do some things well.
Speaker 2:Um, I just feel like you know, this one's a little bit weird. I feel like, like I said before, I feel like this is a. Um. Sean Payton made the arrogant pick when he took Bo Nix, because Bo Nix wasn't necessarily a guy everybody looked at as a first round guy, but he took him. He was like, hey, I can turn in my Drew Brees, so you know he took, made the arrogant pick, but hopefully you'll have his all when it comes to. I'm going to make this work.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I feel like that. Those are all the all the quarterbacks, uh, that were drafted in the first round. We want to talk about that and then let's go ahead and go on to. I have a couple other nfl topic news things real quick to talk about before we get into the other stuff. Um, so travis kelsey was signed to a new to your deal that's now going to make him the highest paid tight end in the nfl. It's like a little over 17 million dollars a year. So for the next two years he's going to be there with Patrick Mahomes trying to go after the three pete, as well as the year after that.
Speaker 2:Again, I feel like Travis Kelsey has been like every year. He's close to retirement. I feel like, especially with Jason Kelsey retiring this past year, I feel like the longer you go on, the closer it is to him making that choice as well, not to miss. I feel like the longer you go on, the closer it is to him making that choice as well, not to miss. I feel like Travis Kelsey with Taylor Swift. He's like a. I feel like Travis Kelsey is getting to a point now where he's as big of a star off the field than he is on the field and I feel like that was some people have like kind of made it like that's maybe Travis Kelsey's. That's what he wants to be. He wants to be a guy that could be a potential movie star, action star, after the NFL is over, um, but honestly he's taking the steps towards doing that.
Speaker 2:So, um, again, keeping him around, paying him the most as a tight end, keeping him with Patrick Mahomes, keeping the run, trying to go for the three p, definitely a big deal for them. Um, the bills signed Chase Claypool. The idea that Chase Claypool can keep tricking teams in the keep end up having them on their roster is insane. From how he went from the Steelers to the Bears, we fleeced that second round pick. It was crazy how we did that. But how we played for the Bears and then he traded the Dolphins last year, did not do anything with them. And how has he managed to convince the Bills to give him money to play for their football team?
Speaker 1:I don't understand. If those are free, I understand. I don't think he convinced the Bills. I think the Bills are like damn, we have no one else to throw to.
Speaker 2:They drafted a wide receiver.
Speaker 1:They drafted Keon Coleman. They didn't draft shit.
Speaker 2:I actually think Keon Coleman is a lot better than what Chase Claypool is able to give you.
Speaker 1:I think the same fucking player but, okay.
Speaker 2:I think Keon Coleman is a lot more athletic than what Chase Claypool is.
Speaker 1:What are you going to say, bro? I saw him play for two years.
Speaker 2:It's funny how you were the guy that hates Keon Coleman the most but now he is the darling of the NFL with all the clips that he's had with social media and all that. He is a clippable guy and when you hear him talk he sounds pretty genuine, but you hate him, it's kind of crazy how that all goes um.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's funny and he's a bill, bro, it makes it so much easier to hate him.
Speaker 2:I know it's just a perfect situation for you. Huh, I don't hate him as much, but I don't hate the bills as much.
Speaker 1:It's a win-win in this motherfucking I.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for the rant that you have about kian colvin and the bills. I can't wait if a mess up happens and it's from Josh Allen to freaking Keon Coleman and it's a mess up for a game lost, you're going to have it's going to be your field day, man.
Speaker 2:You're going to go crazy. It's crazy how Chase Claypool can convince the Bills to give him money to play for their football team. If those were free I'd understand, but they're going to pay him to be on their football team is crazy. Obj signs a one-year deal with the Dolphins. On the outset it does not sound like a big deal, but I do feel like, looking at it amongst all the wide receivers that have played in the NFL on their team right now, guess who has played in the cold before and played well? Obj, I get it. Tyreek Hill played at Kansas City, where he's played in the cold, but he had his opportunity when he played at Kansas City last year and he didn't play all that well. So I feel like that stink of not being able to play in the cold is now on Tyreek Hill as much as it is on anybody else on Tua, on Waddle. So he has to own that as well.
Speaker 2:But, OBJ, I do feel like you can throw him in at the slot and he when, when healthy, he's able to make some plays.
Speaker 2:He's not necessarily the most consistent guy, but if you leave him open and ready to go, he's going to be able to make some tough catches and I just feel like it's a pretty good add as a veteran wide receiver to the room, because there's no way they're going to be able to draft a young wide receiver to really help this team just because of how many assets they have put towards that position already.
Speaker 2:But the idea that you can have OBJ come in for the cheap at the slot position, be able to be a veteran guy, I do feel like is a pretty significant move for them. That may not help them throughout the regular season, but in some big moments, either at the end of the season trying to make the playoffs, or in the playoffs, he can make a player or two that can help change the tide for your team. So I've got to give OBJ some credit there and help change the tide for your team. So I got to give OBJ some credit there and the Dolphins because I feel like that's a pretty good signing that will help them long-term.
Speaker 1:Alrighty there, let's go ahead. And do you want to do the monologues or the chat? Dbt test first.
Speaker 2:All right, this is our AI test of the week for Jace. This has pretty much been mostly Jace thing for giving him these quizzes, because I pretty much have a laptop that can do it, so I'm going to get. This week's topic is going to be on Chainsaw man, so we're going to give him 10 questions about the show and hopefully these questions are correct, because it is not necessarily the case for all these quizzes we have done so far in this little series we have. So let's go ahead and go. All right, this is not the most difficult quiz from what I can tell, but we'll see how this goes. What is the name of the main protagonist in Chainsaw man?
Speaker 1:Denji.
Speaker 2:That is correct. Which devil does Denji form a contract with to become Chainsaw man?
Speaker 1:It's Pacha with the Chainsaw Devil.
Speaker 2:They just got question two and three because they asked what's the name of Denji's pet devil in question three. Question four who is the leader of the public safety Devil Hunters Division 4? Makima, that is true, correct Question five what is the name of the devil that controls darkness and serves as one of the major antagonists in the series darkness, yeah I feel like this is just like a darkness devil, or is it like a physical name? No, it's a name.
Speaker 1:Yes for the series. Huh oh, this is book 1 through 12. Fuck um darkness, uh-huh like. Is that its power, hey?
Speaker 2:that's what it says. Controls darkness.
Speaker 1:Controls darkness.
Speaker 2:You give up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Makima.
Speaker 1:That's not what she fucking does.
Speaker 2:I knew this was going to be the spot you wouldn't like, because I read it and I'm like. That don't make sense either. I know it's just Controls darkness, but okay, let's keep going before we tweak out. Um uh, in which city does most of the action of chainsaw man take place? Japan like the city yeah, uh, tokyo, tokyo is correct, uh. Question seven what is the name of the organization that employs Denji as a devil hunter?
Speaker 1:Oh fucking, why did the name of that place just leave me? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Public Safety Devil Hunters Very on the nose, huh. Question eight who is the fiend that kills Denji's father and eventually becomes one of Denji's allies? Long drawn out silences that kills his father.
Speaker 1:Yep, from what I recall, his dad don't appear often. Uh-huh, I don't know. Could this be a spoiler for you? No good, power motherfucker power. Don't kill his dad, that's what it says.
Speaker 2:This is what the quiz says. This is the quiz. It's the quiz's fault. You can't blame me, it's the quiz. It's the quiz's fault. You can't blame me, it's the quiz. Kills his dad, yeah, yeah. Question nine what is the name of the devil that Denji forms a contract with after the events of the International Assassins Arc?
Speaker 1:Go ahead. What is it?
Speaker 2:Pachida.
Speaker 1:The same one. Yeah, that's reforged.
Speaker 2:He never broke the contract yeah, I know again, this is the quiz. This isn't me, I'm just the one delivering the quiz. Um, what is the name of the author and illustrator of Chainsaw man? Fuck, if I know, it's his name in Japanese.
Speaker 1:Tatsuki Fujimoto. What is the name?
Speaker 2:of the author and illustrator of Chainsaw man Fuck. If I know it's his name in Japanese, tatsuki Fujimoto. If you had to rate this quiz one to ten, would you rate it Negative?
Speaker 2:fucking two. All right, has that been the worst quiz so far? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like the last one we did was awful, the one about Pokemon. I feel like that was the one that had a bunch of mistakes. These are our top monologues that we have for ever seen in movies and stuff like that. So we're going to do a draft of something like that, just kind of bring up some of our favorite ones, just to kind of talk about it real quick and just be the end of our podcast here. So, jace, you had a couple off your head that you kind of knew that you wanted to go with. You don't necessarily have to say exactly what the monologue was, but you don't have to say the monologue, but just kind of what are some of your favorites that you can think of off the top of?
Speaker 1:um first movie of transformers, optimus prime goes on about how species is sacred and you should always um protect them. That's one the speech where erwin gives his troops the command to um basically go die fighting the beast titan.
Speaker 2:That was fire that you you replayed it to me last night and I was just like the fact that he was able to convince his men that not only are they going to die, they should want to. And you have the other dude who's kind of like what is the other one guy questioning him? What was his name, I don't know. Whatever the guy's name was, he was questioning him, saying hey, if we're gonna die anyway, if we decide not to follow your orders, is we could just do that and it wouldn't really matter, right? He's like, yeah, that you could do that, but doesn't that disgrace the your fallen conrads and what their sacrifice was. And I'm like he.
Speaker 2:So he not only convinced them that they were going to die, that they should want to die yeah because then they're, because their death would mean something, rather than not meeting something, that they ran away and tried to just run. Kind of crazy how he just kind of flipped it on him like that, where they all willingly went out there knowing they were about to get splattered across the ground, um managed to pull that off. That's kind of crazy how that worked out. Yeah, anything else?
Speaker 1:come off of your head. That's pretty good, and a moderate speech towards the shinobi alliance. Just telling him that it's the reality of everything means that war will always continue to happen, that it's easier to stay inside the segumi oh, I like that.
Speaker 2:All right, do you have any other ones? Okay, so I like it's not necessarily a single singular monologue, but the conversation between naruto and nagato, after they'd already naruto had already fought pain, I feel like that whole conversation was a very big one where they kind of, like you know, hashed out hey, nagato having the negativity towards what do you think the world is, and Naruto kind of having some hope for what it is. I feel like that back and forth is a very big, a very big conversation. In that anime as well as just life in general, because it's always everybody looking at it, I think you can have a very negative, negative take on what life is and what, how things are going on, and then you kind of have other people on the other side who can kind of see the, see the positive. You know the negatives are happening. It makes the, it makes the positive things that do happen more impactful when they do happen. So I feel like that back that um kind of positive and negative side of how life goes and how, even the negative things that happen can still be looked at from a brighter point of view. So I feel like that one was a big one, um, one of my other ones was probably one of the biggest ones in the mcu that I've seen, obviously the mcu being one of the biggest movie franchises in the last 100, but it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2:The longest time right, the, so the monologue from thanos, after, after they had already exploded, the um, the avengers base, after they had brought everybody back, and you have it's the. What is it? The past version of thanos that's coming and pretty much how he, really how he realizes that he had already been beaten once and that you have a past version of it's pretty much saying hey, no matter what you do, it comes back to me. You can, you can run from it, you can, you can hide, and everything comes back to me. Where I am, the I am inevitable, which? The I inevitable speech from thanos is one of the bigger ones that you could possibly. Uh, that it's one of the cooler ones, especially from a villain, especially him, being of his stature, just kind of comes off as a very um, big one in all the movies. So that was, that was a very cool one to me.
Speaker 2:And then one of the other ones that I had thought of was, um, let me think, killmonger um, his monologue to t'challa at the end of the end of the movie, where t'challa is really giving him an option to um, this one might be more of a quote than anything. It might be more of a quote than a monologue, but when T'Challa was after their fight scene and, uh, t'challa was stabbed through the heart and he was like he was trying to save him and he's, and T'Challa pretty much tells him, hey, I'd rather, I'd rather die here than be put in chains like my ancestors. Because that movie was more was all about the fact that T'Challa wanted to not T'Challa, but Killmonger wanted to free black people from being under the, under the oppression of, of the man or the white, of the other, of the what do they call it Under black people, under the oppression of all these countries and stuff like that. So he just wanted the. Even though killmonger went about it the wrong way, he had the right idea in mind. He just wanted black people to be, to be lifted up and to be able to be in control, because they deserve and they've been oppressed for so long via slavery and so many other ways.
Speaker 2:So, and the idea that t'challa and him are kind of like the opposite sides of that where t'challa kind of wants to and T'Challa had the, the inner dialogue of that as well, because of how Killmonger was brought up and how he was disowned and like. So it's just like a whole thing where Killmonger that was a very big thing at the end of that movie, where, uh, he, he'd rather die than being changed like his ancestor and he said I'd rather die in the oceans like they did coming from the boat, like that was a very big monologue, very impactful at the moment because it's like one of the better movies that the mcu has had. So I feel like that was a big one for me as well yeah, that's a good one all right, I don't think I have anything else.
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