JB's Sports Podcast
From Luka's Challenges to NFL's Contract Talks
Is Luka Dončić's offensive brilliance enough to overcome the Mavericks' defensive flaws? We tackle this intriguing question and much more in our latest episode as we break down the thrilling NBA Finals action between the Boston Celtics and the Dallas Mavericks. With Boston holding a commanding 3-0 series lead, we dissect the standout performances, including Chris's clutch shooting and Jalen Brown's defensive heroics. We also delve into the pressures faced by Dallas, focusing on Luka's dual roles and Kyrie Irving's struggles against a hostile Boston crowd.
Next, we shift our attention to the critical moments that could shift the series' momentum. Discover why Jalen Brown's all-around play has been pivotal for the Celtics, especially during Jason Tatum's off nights. We scrutinize the Mavericks' bench contributions in game four and Luka Dončić's defensive vulnerabilities, juxtaposed with Kyrie Irving's experience and leadership. The daunting task for Dallas to stave off elimination and the uncertainties about Boston's ability to close out the series under pressure add layers of tension to this thrilling matchup.
We then transition to the NFL, tackling hot topics such as player contracts and team dynamics. From the ongoing debate about Jalen Brown's value compared to Jason Tatum to the Minnesota Vikings' potential trade moves, we cover an array of football insights. Dive into the Cowboys' contract decisions involving stars like CeeDee Lamb and Amari Cooper, and evaluate the performances of quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence. We wrap up with a comprehensive look at the Bengals' roster, quarterback rankings, and the financial dilemmas faced by teams like the Cleveland Browns. Tune in for a riveting sports talk session packed with detailed analysis and passionate debates!
Is Luka Dončić's offensive brilliance enough to overcome the Mavericks' defensive flaws? We tackle this intriguing question and much more in our latest episode as we break down the thrilling NBA Finals action between the Boston Celtics and the Dallas Mavericks. With Boston holding a commanding 3-0 series lead, we dissect the standout performances, including Chris's clutch shooting and Jalen Brown's defensive heroics. We also delve into the pressures faced by Dallas, focusing on Luka's dual roles and Kyrie Irving's struggles against a hostile Boston crowd.
Next, we shift our attention to the critical moments that could shift the series' momentum. Discover why Jalen Brown's all-around play has been pivotal for the Celtics, especially during Jason Tatum's off nights. We scrutinize the Mavericks' bench contributions in game four and Luka Dončić's defensive vulnerabilities, juxtaposed with Kyrie Irving's experience and leadership. The daunting task for Dallas to stave off elimination and the uncertainties about Boston's ability to close out the series under pressure add layers of tension to this thrilling matchup.
We then transition to the NFL, tackling hot topics such as player contracts and team dynamics. From the ongoing debate about Jalen Brown's value compared to Jason Tatum to the Minnesota Vikings' potential trade moves, we cover an array of football insights. Dive into the Cowboys' contract decisions involving stars like CeeDee Lamb and Amari Cooper, and evaluate the performances of quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence. We wrap up with a comprehensive look at the Bengals' roster, quarterback rankings, and the financial dilemmas faced by teams like the Cleveland Browns. Tune in for a riveting sports talk session packed with detailed analysis and passionate debates!
welcome back to this podcast. Today is sunday, june the 16th, and we're back on the podcast we're back, baby it's.
Speaker 2:We haven't recorded since june 1st um a lot of things in play there. What was that first week? Well, I don't even know what the first week was. There was nothing happening. Yeah, and then we recorded right during the Dallas Mavericks, like the Dallas and Boston kind of like 10-day gap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where nothing was happening, and nothing really happened until maybe like middle of last week, when they started playing again. Yep. So sports news? I kid you not, there's been no sports news until this past week I wouldn't say no. Sports news but, nothing, not enough to make a podcast.
Speaker 2:Let's say it like that yeah, we probably gonna be a little better about it, but heck, throughout this past week we've been kind of it's been my birthday week, so we're out doing different things, so finding different and, on top, people working and all that finding different things to. So Tate's been a minute. Sorry about it. We're back now. Hopefully we'll be back next week. Who knows, actually it'll be most likely just me, because Jace will be on his vacation coming up next week.
Speaker 1:I will.
Speaker 2:So you'll be stuck with just me next week. But let's not even talk about that. Let's have fun with what we have right now, and that is, we'll start with NBA stuff, even though Jason doesn't like to All right, Boston. Most of the time Jason's not into the basketball stuff.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I'm trying to remember what time I work at. That is not a thought we need to have right now on the podcast, but you know I get the honesty. I appreciate it. Boston Celtics and the Mavs are currently in the finals. They are in the fifth game of the series now. Um, boston seemed to have a series under control. Um, from the start, getting off to a 3-0 series lead with good defense and their strategy of shooting many threes working um game four, dallas kind of took a stand and kind of kept themselves from getting swept. Um, so what is your outlook on the series as of right now? Maz, dead man walking. Yeah, here's what I'll say. That first game bossing came out four straight games.
Speaker 1:Dude what they're not gonna win.
Speaker 2:Four straight you know you're, you're not totally wrong. I just want to kind of give like the little bit of context to all of this, just in case our people in germany aren't watching these games as of right as of right now. So first game chris came out pretty much the first time. He's pretty much played pretty much the whole playoff run. He came out, got like three, threes, I believe, like scored a bunch of threes, came out, scored like over 20 something points and he was just kind of like that missing piece, that kind of unlocked that Boston team and allowed them to sit there and put Dallas in a hole in that first quarter that they couldn't get out of. And Boston won that game, going away 107 to 89 in that game. One, all right, cool, I get it. You kind of get into a hole. You're in Boston's home court. Kyrie it's the first time he's really been there since he left.
Speaker 2:So, especially in this kind of big game situation, it being the finals, kyrie didn't really show up to play at all. I feel like he had let's see here, donchett's had 30 points. So he did show up offensively, defensively, throughout, pretty much throughout this whole series he has been a practically a no-show, a dead man walking on defense because he just lets everybody blow by him. If he gets anywhere near Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown in front of him, they're just going to blow right by him and either make a play at the rim or they're kicking it back out to one of their role players making threes. So, like Luka, defensively, has been a underperforming player for a guy of his stature throughout the whole series. So, like I was saying, in that first game Luka came out with 30 points.
Speaker 2:Kyrie, honestly, throughout those first two games while they were in Boston, you could tell he really was rattled by that whole crowd Because, think about it this way as much as Kyrie has talked about throughout the last two years or so, being in Dallas, where he's talked about him being in a different place, he's growing up a lot like he has a family now, like a lot of those things that he was talking about now, while how he's such a different person and how he's nothing near the person he was when he was in Boston. The problem is is that those fans are still there. The fans act. The fans were, they are acting like he had just left them yesterday, like the fans don't forget, and especially that boss, that Boston fan base, especially when they have a gripe with you and you gave that to them, they're going to take all advantage of it and they're going to make sure you hear about it. Practically every time you touch the ball in those first two games there in Boston, all you hear is Kyrie sucks throughout the whole arena. So you could tell Kyrie, especially with the way he was playing I their whole arena.
Speaker 2:So you could tell Kyrie, especially with the way he was playing, I feel like he had, let's see, in the first game he had sorry, looking at all these things, I need to get what the points were Points, oh, he had 12 points in the first game and then in game two, I feel like he had like less than 20, like 17 or something like that. So you could tell he was really rattled throughout those first two games in this series, even though Luka was able to do things offensively. Especially in the first game he scored 30. Second game he was around the 30 mark as well. Again, like I already talked about this defense being such a bad, such a bad thing, it almost counteracted each other because when Luka especially with Luka not being able to get a lot of assists in those first two games too.
Speaker 2:Because think about it this way, throughout the first like three games of the series, it was Luka and Kyrie getting like pretty much those two together getting 50% of all the shots that were being taken for the Dallas Mavericks team in the first three games. So with those three games where Luka's not getting a lot of assists along with the points he has, and then Kyrie's not really showing up as much as you think he would, even though I would say defensively, kyrie has never been an amazing defensive player, but when Kyrie wants to, he can play good defense. And I feel like when you watch the pundits for basketball, they always say that the key to defense is effort and physical. Obviously physical physicality and effort right. And for Kyrie, throughout the series, even if he hasn't really given, given anything to you on the offensive end, especially in those three games, he was trying to do something defensively, in the same way that Luka was not doing defensively, but offensively he was kind of giving you a lot.
Speaker 2:So first three games did not go well. It was a lot of threes being scored by Boston, dallas getting a lot of twos. Their role player is not really doing a lot. Daniel Jones, pj Washington, daniel Gafford, like all of them weren't really doing a lot, especially from the three-point land. And when you have this becomes a math problem when you have a Celtics team that's shooting a lot of threes and making a good bit of them and Boston not shooting as many and not really making as many, on top of the fact they're only making twos, it's a math problem. Twos don't beat threes. And it's a math problem. Twos don't beat threes. And that's pretty much been how the series went for those first three games or so, because I don't know, I feel like if there's any team that would fumble a 3-0 lead, it'd be Boston.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like this would be the team that would just fizzle out. They can't score, they can't defend, everything would just implode, because they've done that before where they've been up and they've imploded. Yeah, do I think it will actually happen? Probably not. It probably won't happen, and I'm not saying it will happen. I'm saying it's going to happen, but it would be funny to see it happen.
Speaker 2:Here's what I'll say those first two games Chris Tops Porzingis was able to play. He ended up getting hurt in that second game, or second game or third game. Now I gotta check to see I thought third game he got hurt. I think he came up in the third game that he ended up getting hurt and he wasn't able to play that fourth game, Tatum.
Speaker 1:So that is another nice score.
Speaker 2:No for sure. Yeah, chris Tops didn't play in that third game. He's a decent defender so he has not played since game two. So, all that being the case, in boston got that win in game three, um, and they won 106 99. So with him not on the floor, if he's not able to come back in this series, that is a big piece for them, not only defensively with his length, but offensively. He kind of spaces the floor out for you and when you have him going out on the three-point line, daniel Gafford or I'm forgetting Lively have to try to go guard him at the three-point line and it opens up the center for you to drive Opens a lane up.
Speaker 2:Even though Jason Tatum is not really trying to take those drives a lot, he's really kind of going for his jump shot or trying to pass it off to somebody else.
Speaker 1:You don't have a pretty jump shot.
Speaker 2:I actually like his jump shot, but the thing is, I think he relies on it too much.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's the greatest jump shot. I feel like he was taking threes that aren't really his kind of shot.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's his only thing he wants to do is shoot threes. I feel like he wants to try to beat you off the dribble real quick. Step back three. That's pretty much most of his game, even though he is athletic enough to get by most people and go to the rim. He's not a powerful, he's not necessarily going to get you with speed, but he's big enough. He has size where he should be able to get past guys and go to the rim. He's not really been all that aggressive in that way throughout this four games for the series so far, this four games throughout for the series so far.
Speaker 2:To somebody, I do have to give a lot of credit to Jalen Brown. Pretty much throughout every single game in this series, except for game four, he was the dominant guy throughout the series. Like defensively he was playing great. Offensively he was driving to the rim and trying to get buckets, especially in that game three he was hitting some nice and he was dunking on people.
Speaker 2:Like it seemed like a lot where Jalen Brown decided, hey, I don't care what Jason Tatum is going to do in this series, I'm going to come out and play my game and he is really super. He like powered them to do things, because I think Tatum really has not done a lot throughout the series at all 16 points in game three um game two he was looking at around the same thing like Tatum's not really shown out offensively, let me make sure, in game two I'm on the line here, game two he had 18 points. So like Tatum has not really taken initiative offensively at all. But Jalen Brown has taken up that slack throughout pretty much the whole series except for game four where both of them really didn't do all that well in a clobbering.
Speaker 2:I think that fourth game Dallas won 122-84. So getting back to it being game four now, I mean game five. In that game four, dallas came out hot firing. Donchich was able to get honestly, he got 29 points. Kyrie Irving came out with 21 points. They got some bench health, a bench help. Derek Lively came out with 11 points. He hit his first three in his NBA career wow in that game um Dante Exum was able to give 10 points.
Speaker 2:Tim Hardaway Jr hit, got 15 points and then going three point. He he hit like five, three-point, five of seven. So like their bench was able to come out and do something for them, it just sucks that had to happen in game four.
Speaker 1:A little late.
Speaker 2:It was a little late for that. Now they're down 3-1, and now they have to win the next three games in a row to win this series. That's a lot on a team. That is a lot, and especially with luca not really being able to do that like defensively. Luca is a liability at this point, right. So if luca is not going to be able to give you those assists on top of the points he gives you, and if kairi goes back to boston and just kind of shells up again in game five, this will be a gentleman sweep, no problem. But if they can figure it out and their role players can kind of get better and play some better basketball. Maybe it's on threes or so they might have if they can win this game five.
Speaker 2:I feel like that puts the pressure back on the Boston in game six, because next thing, you know, they're back in Dallas for game six and they're worried about going to game seven where it's a one-and-done type of deal. And then you have to worry about if Luka and Kyrie can get back into this. I think you can probably give Luka some credit now that he's back into the series in a way that he wasn't before, when he wasn't playing any defense. He was arguing for calls all the time. He was blaming referees. In that game three he fouled out with six fouls in that game and after the game he blamed the officials for not letting them play physically, even though on those fouls that he got a lot of them he didn't need to make and he made it easy for those officials to call fouls on him.
Speaker 2:I just feel like when everybody was talking about the Timberwolves last series, where everybody says, hey, you need to get to certain steps and then experience loss and then come back better, we talked about the LeBron, the Michael Jordan thing, lebron having his time, where he had to get to certain points and then have disappointment and then come back better. I feel like Dallas is showing you that Luca still has to go through that process as well. And when Brian and Bryn, when horse after game three was talking about how immature he was and how he's not focusing on the right things, and for a star of his stature and his being as young as he is, he is an immature player. And when you look at him compared to his running mate, kyrie, who has been through everything under the sun being a champion, playing with LeBron Cool, calm collected.
Speaker 1:There's more basketball left to play.
Speaker 2:When Kyrie isn't playing well on offense, guess what? He's giving you effort on defense to try to play as best as possible. He gives you everything else.
Speaker 1:He's the best all-around secondary superstar, if not just your main superstar. He's going to give you everything you need and everything you want, and if he's not scoring, he's going to facilitate Luka. Don't do that. And Luka is a huge liability on defense. He always has been. He's slow, he's unathletic, he does not get back fast enough.
Speaker 2:He's just there's points where his teammates were trying to push him in the spots to make sure he was in the right spot defensively. That's how much of a liability he is. Like I said earlier, defense is about effort and strategy when it comes to you playing your part and holding on and guarding your man long enough to help out the rest of your team and and guarding your man long enough to help out the rest of your team, and Luka wasn't really doing that. So if they can get back into the series and kind of do something special, who knows? But I'm not going to put any money on it. They have three games they now have to win in a row and they have to go back to Boston for game five. So and all credit to Kyrie, he has been an absolute.
Speaker 2:I said before the series started, he's gonna be tested as to how much he has changed, and I do think he is a changed person when it comes to a lot of things he was doing before and what he is now. He is a lot more grown up. But I think when it comes to his game, I feel like he does kind of have to find that petty side a little bit of it of inside of him, because he's gonna have to do more in game five back in Boston than he did when he was in games one and two, like he is really gonna have to show up and show out to kind of help out with Luka in order to try to extend this series to one more game, like this is a game by game series now for Dallas. So, um, a lot of things for Dallas to have to do.
Speaker 2:Um, if I had, if I had to make a prediction right now as to how I think that's going to go, I think I think Boston's going to finish this out in game, in game five, and be over, have it be over with. But again, the only problem is that we have to put our faith in Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum to go ahead and finish this off and, on top of all the role players, because I do think, to a certain degree, all their role players have played so well throughout this whole series up until that game four. So maybe this is a time where Boston does go on a cold streak with all their role players and they stop shooting as well, because when you live by the three, you can die by shooting the three as well. So who knows? There's a lot of things going on in this series. I'll be watching game five for sure.
Speaker 1:um, jace probably won't I'll probably listen to it radio yeah, um, we'll see how it goes that.
Speaker 2:I feel like that that game is tomorrow. So if you are listening to this podcast before monday night, go ahead and give that game a watch and have some fun, because I do feel like if both teams show up and they're playing their best basketball, it it is some good basketball being played. I don't think it's necessarily teams getting totally destroyed, except for that game four. So it's going to be a good show if everybody shows up there's playing good basketball, all righty. Then, ever since we have last podcasted, there has been some NFL money moves being made. We're kind of going to run through a few of those and talk about them and have some questions. So let's start with Justin Jefferson. He agreed to a four-year $140 million deal, a contract extension with $110 million guaranteed, with $88.7 million due at signing. That's fully guaranteed at signing, with an average of $35 million per year, making him the highest paid non-QB in NFL history.
Speaker 1:That number is like when stuff like that talked about and makes you realize how much money the NBA really does make, because somebody made a comparison and they were like, hey, Jordan Poole made that same amount of money $134 million.
Speaker 2:Jalen Brown is the I would say, before this series was not considered the best player on his team and he was the highest paid NBA player throughout the season.
Speaker 1:I don't know how. I don't think he's not the best player on his team.
Speaker 2:Well, right now, throughout the series, I would say so yeah, for sure. But I think if you talk to like most NBA ownership, do you think if they had a draft they're gonna take jason tatum or jalen brown first?
Speaker 1:I think most of them would take. I would take brown. He's there in big moments.
Speaker 2:Tatum tends to fizzle out, hey in this series does not help his case whatsoever. I'd be totally honest with you never has this playoff tatum playoff tatum. Oh man, let's not talk about him like playoff pee.
Speaker 1:Pandemic pee. Pandemic pee.
Speaker 2:Is what it was yeah.
Speaker 1:It's because we hit the bubble. What he like air balled a three during one of the games. And they were like pandemic pee. Oh, that was wild, because he truly did air ball that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Paul George, even though I would say over the last few years he hasn't been at that bad he's actually pretty good, but it actually, but it doesn't matter because he's playing with a clippers team, with or without kawaii not playing.
Speaker 2:Well, um heck, this last year they ended up running into the math and losing to them. So it didn't really matter because, at the end of the day, nobody really cares if you don't have the results. So yeah, but still all right, so that you get he gets all that money. Highest paid non-QB in the league that is now the number For all these wide receivers that are CD Lamb. We're talking CD Lamb. We're talking about Jamar Chase. We're talking about all that. Apparently, it was a real thing during the draft that the Vikings were trying to trade up To try to get the dude from LSU Neighbors, yeah, malik neighbors.
Speaker 2:It was a thing that Minnesota was trying to trade up to get Malik neighbors. If I had to guess what they were going to do if they were able to trade up to get him, I'm guessing they were going to trade Justin Jefferson without any issue, right? Because obviously if you're going to get rid of a guy of that stature, you have to have, you have to have somebody to replace them with, and that's what they were trying to do. The Vikings refuse this. They say that was never, never the case. But like there's a lot of people from a lot of different outlooks saying hey, that was happening. They were trying to trade with the chargers and the people. Some people in the chargers front office wanted to have the trade and Harbaugh wanted the offensive tackle and Latham Was it JC Latham? Yeah, the guy.
Speaker 2:I thought it was the other guy. No, it was the guy from Notre Dame, joel Joel. That's the guy he wanted.
Speaker 1:Okay, look, I'm going to be honest, if I'm Justin Herbert, I'm spazzing the fuck out. If I hear these rumors, I'm going to Harbaugh. I'm going to Harbaugh. I'm going to Harbaugh with a shotgun. Hey, is that true?
Speaker 2:We had a chance at Jay Jettis and you said no Chance at Jay.
Speaker 1:Jettis, they'd be dragging me out in a freaking.
Speaker 2:Well, there was no guarantee that Jefferson was a part of that trade package at all.
Speaker 1:But there's no way that wasn't.
Speaker 2:There's no way. That's not a conversation.
Speaker 1:They were at four or five. The Chargers were at five. Yeah, Justin Jefferson was part of that conversation and if I'm, Jay Herbo fucking.
Speaker 2:O-line. They're trying to be able to run the football With who Look?
Speaker 1:it don't matter, that's what Harbaugh wants to do. Harbaugh wants to run the football. Who the fuck are you throwing? To who are you throwing?
Speaker 2:to Exactly no I.
Speaker 1:What running back do you have to run the football with?
Speaker 2:I totally agree with you.
Speaker 1:Do you have Justin Herbert run it? What Justin Herbert? What Justin Herbert going to throw the ball and you're going to have to fucking chase it down because no one's going to catch it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're going to turn. They gave Herbert all that money and they are now going to turn him into Andrew Luck JJ.
Speaker 1:McCarthy. No, that would turn. Fucking Justin Herbert's going to become Andrew Luck.
Speaker 2:Oh, but Well, Andrew Luck wasn't. He was getting destroyed back there because he had an offensive line. They're actually trying to help with the offensive line. But again, if he has no way to throw to, that's something the defense doesn't have to worry about, and then he's holding the ball longer, and then there's like there that's not, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:If you can't, you can't get it to nobody. What's the point? And if you have nobody to run the football, that's effective. No matter how good the offensive line is, you can't just get a bum in there, a running back, and be able to get they don't work. Yeah, exactly, you have to have some type of good talent at running back and they let um eckler, austin eckler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he got really bad, really fast that's true, but he was never really a big running like running within the tackles guy no he was a good receiving threat.
Speaker 1:It's just he turned 30 and instantly went to shit.
Speaker 2:I agree with you and he was catching the ball to backfield a lot more like they were protecting him in a certain way because they didn't want him to get hurt, so like he wasn't the same running back that he was before he turned 30. So but yeah, but if that, like that, was really a case for minnesota, they were going to go try to get neighbors and potentially get rid of Justin Jefferson on top of that. And when that didn't happen, they had no other choice. Because now, if you trade Justin Jefferson away, you have a young quarterback in JJ McCarthy that you have to groom. Why would you take his best receiver away from him if you want? Because there's really nobody else to start for them. That's obvious. I think they do have a what's his face from USC. They do have a what's-his-face from USC Jordan Addison.
Speaker 1:Huh From where?
Speaker 2:He played at USC, one of the white guys oh no, I'm forgetting his name now Sam Darnold Ha-ha. Sam Darnold is a guy on their roster as of right now, so he could potentially start for them. But I do have a feeling they are priming jj up to start the season and kind of be their quarterback going forward. And if that's going to be the case, how you can do that without? Without? Jj is on your roster, so they're. They gave him more money now than they probably could have if they were assigned him a year ago, when he was at during the season when he was asking to get paid, this number probably wouldn wouldn't have been as high. But now that they waited so long and now they tried to trade up to get a different guy and it didn't all work out, now you're stuck with having to pay him and you are now paying him the most money that a non-quarterback is making throughout this season. So, with all that being the case, I just feel like now.
Speaker 1:You're fucked up.
Speaker 2:You've got to hope that JJ McCarthy is the guy, because if not, this is going to go bad real quick. Because, as much as I respect JJ and he has played this out perfectly when it comes to he wasn't making a scene Like he was never doing any of that. He was cool, calm and collected. He never was going to the media about I need to get paid my money, nope. Like he was as best as you could ask for as an organization as money. Like he was as best as you could ask for as an organization as a wide receiver need to get paid, so.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing he wants to win and if things start going going crazy and jj mccarthy ain't that guy, which is definitely a possibility based on how he played at michigan this could go south real quick and you, you'll he'll be asking to get traded again after that. So who knows hope? Hopefully for them, jj mccarthy will be the guy and they'll be able to get traded again after that. So who knows? Hopefully for them, jj McCarthy will be the guy and they'll be able to go without a hitch. I just doubt it's going to be that smooth.
Speaker 1:I agree. I don't think JJ McCarthy is the guy.
Speaker 2:No matter how great offensive coordinator Kevin McConnell is, slash head coach, it could go bad. All right, another guy getting paid, trevor Lawrence. Oh, by the way, ceedee Lamb. Do you think CeeDee Lamb gets anything close to that number 35? Ceedee Lamb's only been that good once. I think he's going to want a number close to that.
Speaker 1:And I'm looking at CeeDee Lamb like hey, you've been that good once.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing the Cowboys are now back into a corner where you know I think they're going to play out this last season without paying Dak and be like hey, dak, you're going to play for your contract. Either you're going to play well and you're going to be our guy, or you're not and we'll start off fresh with brand new stuff. But I feel like CD Lamb you have to keep you out of the way right.
Speaker 1:He's an average 1,000-yard receiver. Him and Amari Cooper are not very fucking different.
Speaker 2:Get to him later.
Speaker 1:Every Before this year, city of LA 1,100 yards, 1,090 yards same thing Amari Cooper was doing. You're an average-ass receiver, amari Cooper had one really good season for Dallas and they paid him. You're an average-ass receiver. Mark Cooper had one really good season for Dallas and they paid him. And halfway through it they were like, hmm, this is a fucking mistake.
Speaker 2:And they wanted to. Either they were going to let him go, and then the Browns were dumb enough to trade for him, even though the Cowboys were ready to drop him off.
Speaker 1:Don't pay CeeDee Lamb off a 1,500-yard season. The same shit they did with Josh Jacobs. They paid Josh Jacobs and I looked him in the face. I was like Josh Jacobs is hot fucking garbage. And you know what Josh Jacobs went out there and did Played like hot fucking garbage.
Speaker 2:He played well last year. Uh-huh, and that was a franchise tag. It didn't actually pay him a long-term deal, but still I would have let him go.
Speaker 1:Get the fuck out of here. Well, he's top five. He's top five. I'm like no, he had one good season.
Speaker 2:No, he still had a top five season last year.
Speaker 1:He had an okay season last year. Stop, kevin, he was okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, agree to disagree on that, but like CD. But here's the thing After this year, if let's just say they go to the off fresh and like, get rid of everybody I would.
Speaker 1:I'm looking at cd lamb like hey, you're not just jefferson that's true, but they're not fucking demar chase. You're not aj brown, you're none of these other guys and you have feet for hand. Sometimes lights get too bright for him, the same way it did for amari cooper.
Speaker 2:Lights get real fucking bright and he start being bad I just think as much as the Cowboys talk about they want to win a championship, they also want to keep people's butts in seats for that nice big stadium that they have. In that stadium they got to pay off, yeah Well, no, he paid for it out of his own. That's all cash out of him. I'm not surprised. Jerry Jones is that guy. When it comes to the dollars, that's what you get for having oil money, exactly. So like they want to keep people's butts in the seats to have people come. So you can't go off and like after this year, if things don't go well and you lose in the second round again they're going to go to sucking next year.
Speaker 1:What's he so worried about? They're Cowboys fans, oh the delusional.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're not wrong. If you had to rank the three guys that are trying to get paid Dak, cd and Michael Parsons what would be the order of importance for you? Who's the guy that you would pay amongst those three? It'd be Micah Parsons. I think so too, even though I don't trust him in the run game and all that.
Speaker 1:He's so good at everything else.
Speaker 2:He's so good when it comes to getting after the quarterback, after the quarterback.
Speaker 1:he's decent in coverage. They don't put him in often because they don't have to, because they have good linebackers, but in coverage he's not bad because he is still small and fast. True.
Speaker 2:It's just not run.
Speaker 1:And I say you, everybody points at him and says it's their whole defensive line.
Speaker 2:Oh, their whole defense is made out of speed Like they don't have no.
Speaker 1:They don't have people any. What's their guy on the other side? Dexter Lawrence, dexter Lawrence, it's like how that's the Giants.
Speaker 2:It's another Lawrence Nope. Demarcus Lawrence, demarcus Lawrence, I think that's it.
Speaker 1:He's the same shit. I was close but he's the same thing, but he's slower, true, and can't stop the run.
Speaker 2:None of them can stop the run. They don't have any beef at defensive tackle.
Speaker 1:No, I'll be honest, the guys you'd see at defensive tackle are like the normal guys you see at DNs for everybody else Heck even the guy that they got out of Michigan.
Speaker 2:he's a young tackle and he's light. He's more of like a he's more getting after the quarterback type of tackle, not a run-stuffing type of tackle.
Speaker 1:They have no run-stuffers on that team.
Speaker 2:And not to mention they're secondary. They have a bunch of corners that are looking.
Speaker 1:They're not looking to tackle anybody and at safety they don't have any thumpers either, so like their whole defense is not built their, corners are great at getting interceptions, but that's the thing that receiver cuts that ball in the backfield Tackling. Come on, that's the thing they can't tackle and none of them are very fast, exactly.
Speaker 2:They're all rather tall and long, hence why the Green bay packers went in there and took their lunch money and asked where their mama was at. Because that's that's exactly what that team was able to do run the football and throw the ball downfield.
Speaker 1:And that exactly why they got destroyed like that, slinging that thing downfield yeah, no question so that is the whole reason they got it. They got destroyed because they had run it with aaron jones and run with the other guy who I don't remember, but he's also decent uh, dylan, aj dylan aj dylan why do I remember of all the names I forget, and like that's a name I remember random he's a random. That's why most of you, if you were to say aj dylan to an nfl fan, be like who? The fuck is that?
Speaker 2:oh, that old looking guy, but he really ain't that old, he's like 23.
Speaker 1:I keep looking and I'm like, why do you look?
Speaker 2:40 yeah, he's 23 years old. He's only three years older than me. Yeah, no, he's not. He's not 23, he's like 25 I'm gonna fact check that.
Speaker 1:I feel like aj dylan's really young but yeah, he's.
Speaker 2:He looks like he's over 40 years old. He's nice and bald, all of that. He looks like he's in his 30s, like on his last leg but no he's under 30, he's still playing some pretty decent football and he's a big thumper for that greenback packers team, and he'll be the second guy behind uh josh josh jacobs now. Um, since they let uh see, that's the name I forget. Uh, they let. Why am I forgetting the main running back? They let walk.
Speaker 1:Aaron Jones.
Speaker 2:They let him walk and go to the Vikings.
Speaker 1:Sorry, aj Dillon's from Connecticut.
Speaker 2:Were you Surprised by that?
Speaker 1:Name another NFL player from Connecticut. I'd get more NFL players from Wyoming, connecticut.
Speaker 2:I feel like there are plenty. I think of Darren Orlovsky, but he's not even in the league anymore.
Speaker 1:Connecticut.
Speaker 2:Let's see. I can look it up real quick. Nfl players from Connecticut let's see.
Speaker 1:Current players.
Speaker 2:Oh, dang, it's still playing as of last year. Dang, that's a lot of Byron Jones. I'm not's a lot of Byron Jones. I'm not seeing a lot of players.
Speaker 1:I think you would too. All right, cool, that's wild Okay.
Speaker 2:Continue on, but yeah, we were talking about the whole Cowboys. Yes, why am I forgetting? I'm forgetting the linebacker's name. Now I suck at this Struggle. You're going to let me struggle. I am it's. Oh, no, oh no, oh no. I suck. No, no, no, no, no, oh no. Dallas it's. Why is this? Michael Parsons? Goodness gracious, I had it earlier than I forgot it.
Speaker 2:Michael Parsons, sorry about that, guys, michael Parsons was the only guy that amongst those three that I would probably play long term because defensive ends, it doesn't really matter. Like if you are one of those guys right, one of those dudes, even with his his downsides, as a defensive end when it comes't really matter. Like if you are one of those guys right, one of those dudes, even with his his downsides as a as a defensive end when it comes to run, blocking and all that like, even with that being having a guy that is a premier running after the, getting after the passer. That is something you cannot replace. And Dak, as much as he has stat stuffed throughout his whole career and played some good games, when it comes to the big games where you really need him to do something, he is not going to be that dude and cd lamb. I think I think a little bit higher of him than you do, jace, but I do think that even he, if he's going to be asking for that 30 million dollars a year type of thing, I don't think that's a number that the dallas should be willing to kind of go after. And Dallas has made a whole thing of this right.
Speaker 2:When Ezekiel Elliott was trying to get paid when he was just under 30 years old and he held out and they paid him. They weren't happy with that contract literally a year after. So like they are really good at not paying them when they're supposed, paying the players when they're supposed to and then paying them late and then then after that letting those players fall off and then feeling bad about it because they didn't pay them earlier. So like they have been really good about not paying the players when they probably should and then getting burned on the back end. So like would I be totally surprised if they go ahead and end up paying all three of these dudes because after this year they feel like they're in a no win situation. They can't go get better tomorrow?
Speaker 2:I wouldn't be surprised if they paid all of them, but I think if I was one of those guys in that organization maybe not jerry jones, because it feels like he could pretty much die in a year. Now he might feel a little differently about going for the championship to try to get a super bowl as fast as possible. But, like for long term, the only guy I would want is going to be michael parsons. Everybody else can go if they're looking for a number that's too high, especially dac. When you have guys that are like much getting paid a lot less than him, giving you this kind of similar type of uh, similar numbers throughout the regular season and then potentially in the playoffs he's getting beat by guys that are younger than him and that are still ascending.
Speaker 1:I don't know if an average-ass motherfucker like Trevor Lawrence can get paid. I don't think anybody can get paid.
Speaker 2:And I think that is going into the next thing here. So the next money moves out of BMA. Trevor Lawrence agrees to a five-year $275 million contract with $200 million guaranteed, with an average of $55 million per year, matching Joe Burrow at the top of the most average money per year at the quarterback position. Does he deserve the money he's getting? Fuck, no. Has he been a disappointment so far in his career? A little.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow, perennial number one pick, best guy coming out, has not been a disappointment. Second year won the Super Bowl, true. Third year we got to the AFC Championship. His fourth year just got hurt. What has Trevor Lawrence done besides losing the playoffs?
Speaker 2:I am not going to for that first year. I'm not going to hold against him because he had Urban Meyer.
Speaker 1:And I don't hold against Joe Burrow, not going to hold that against him. What about his second year?
Speaker 2:Oh, I got I think the second year they got to the playoffs and that was the year they got the. Then they beat the Chargers in that game where they came back they were down like the week after Mm-hmm, and then this last year they didn't make the playoffs. Nope they ended up getting beat up on by a young Houston team with a first-year quarterback in CJ Stroud.
Speaker 1:It was pretty much outplaying him.
Speaker 2:No questions asked. And Trevor Lawrence, I got to look up that tweet that I told you about. Remember that when I gave you the comparison.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that was a good comparison.
Speaker 2:It was hilarious. Let me give you some background on this. So a couple days ago, I saw this tweet that was comparing Trevor Lawrence after he had just gotten his contract Mariota. I got to get this because it was a crazy stat line. Oh no, why am I? Oh man, it's going to be so hard, oh no. So pretty much this tweet I saw was comparing the first what is it? Four years of Trevor Lawrence's career in comparison to the first four years of Marcus Mariota's career in. Tennessee Three. No, it was the first four.
Speaker 1:It would have to be the first three, since this is Trevor Lawrence's fourth year.
Speaker 2:Is it really?
Speaker 1:He was drafted in 2021.
Speaker 2:Joe Burrow just finished his fourth year, oh yeah because it was the fourth year option for no, yeah, this is his fourth year, oh dang. Oh, I know who it's from. Ha-ha, let's see who was that. Oh, no, let's go. Sorry about the little dead space, guys.
Speaker 1:I gotta find this.
Speaker 2:What was that?
Speaker 1:Waves of silence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we like those long Bouts of silence. You know I have it here. I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 1:Finally Took you long enough.
Speaker 2:I remember who tweeted it, so that's what made it a lot easier.
Speaker 1:There we go. Quiet time is always nice time.
Speaker 2:Quiet time is always nice time.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so unnecessary, just favorite kind of popcorn you guys add to it because like uh, some people add like put like cheddar cheese in their popcorn, or like I'm a parmesan guy, like a shaker parmesan.
Speaker 2:It's not real parmesan, but it's good stuff that's that wouldn't melt in the popcorn, and then it's kind of like it just sticks to it.
Speaker 1:Since popcorn is hot, some people are just butter and salt, and I'm cool with that. Well, like you get like those garlic salt. Some people do garlic salt, which I've never tried, but I thought about it. That sounds kind of good, unless you're on a date and your breath stinks. Sorry, I have nothing else to talk about and I've been thinking about popcorn. We went to the drive-in recently and I don't know, or to which I'm listening, if drive-ins exist where you are. It's cold in that, motherfucker you have to have some.
Speaker 2:I don't think so right.
Speaker 1:A drive-in movie theater. You legit just drive up your car and you connect to the radio, or they have like little speakers there, or then they have the big speaker in the back and you just watch movies outside. You can legit show up as early as you feel like you want to. I think it's up until like 7 o'clock and your kids can go out there and play and it's like the best.
Speaker 2:All right, can't find it, it don't really matter. Took the best, all right, can't find it.
Speaker 1:It don't really matter. Took you long enough, god damn.
Speaker 2:So pretty much the same amount of time between the first two quarterbacks. I feel like there was like a 10-game difference between the two. Yeah, Mariota played more 10-game games. Mariota had more passing yards. I don't think his passer rating was higher. He didn't have as many like the fumbles. The turnover ratio Trevor Lawrence's is higher. He has like Trevor Lawrence had like one point he had average like 1.5 turnovers.
Speaker 1:A game Mariotta's like 0.9.
Speaker 2:Mariotta's like 1.2, like they were pretty close. But Trevor Lawrence's was higher and Mariotta Mariotta. Mariotta had a lot more rushing yards and a lot more rushing touchdowns. And when it came to passing yards, Mariotta had more passing yards. Trevor Lawrence had more passing touchdowns. So when you look in, Mariota's ran out of Tennessee. They threw him out of town. He was as quick as possible and Trevor Lawrence they're giving a bunch of money to.
Speaker 2:Mario. This Tennessee team was way worse. Oh yeah, no question, and I feel like they, especially after that first year. They have given Trevor Lawrence everything. They have given him wide receivers. He has a running back that can do everything.
Speaker 2:Their defense was decent and last year it was a. Obviously the whole team didn't play well. The defense didn't play well. They didn't play well in their division. Houston outplayed you by a lot, but Trevor Lawrence threw a bunch of interceptions last year. He did not. He had a lot of fumbles last year. Trevor Lawrence can't play in the freaking rain. He can't, and when you're playing in Jacksonville, of all places, that's a problem. When you're playing half of your games at home it rains a lot.
Speaker 2:So if that's a problem for you and he fumbles the ball a lot, all of those things and he ends up getting paid a bunch of money, that kind of. So the questions is is he worth the money he's getting paid right now?
Speaker 1:no, easy as much as joe burrow?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, I don't, of course I don't think so. But will he even get to a point where he was? He's earning that contract that he has? Oh no, I doubt that's the case, because of where he's at in the afc. He has to face joe burrow, he has to's going to end up running into, obviously, joe Burrow.
Speaker 1:Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, cj. Stroud, cj. It is on the vision now Like dude, you are fucked.
Speaker 2:If you took a poll of a lot of people that were watching football last year, I don't think there are going to be a lot of people that are going to have, even above CJ Stroud, a first-year I mean now a second-year quarterback.
Speaker 1:Sophomore season.
Speaker 2:Because of how much he outplayed him by last year. So, like, with all that being the case and Trevor Lawrence already has a very stacked team and they keep adding pieces around him and you haven't really done they haven't got past the second round of the playoffs only one time. Last year they didn't even make it there. With all that being the case, the AFC is getting no lighter when it comes to how hard it is to do your thing.
Speaker 1:It's getting no lighter for competition or good, competent quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:And they were feasting on a bad division for pretty much a good portion of those first three years. That's not the case. No more Houston's here. Tennessee's making moves and they're trying to do something better. And who's the last AFC South team? The Colts, yes, the Colts. They're going to get Oldboy back at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1:His name.
Speaker 2:See, while I was trying to get past it, I was trying to.
Speaker 1:What's his name?
Speaker 2:Oh no, it's in my brain.
Speaker 1:Who is the fourth overall pick the?
Speaker 2:Colts take. Fourth pick. It was the fourth overall pick. The Colts take Fourth pick.
Speaker 1:It was Juh, juh, juh, nope Duh.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. Oh man, this is awful. Oh no, why do you do this to me? Why did you put me on a spot? I was trying to get past it and you want to put me back there. Write the spotlight right on me. What's his name? Don't look it up, jim, I can see you typing, I don't care.
Speaker 1:Anthony.
Speaker 2:Richardson. Oh my god, I suck at this. I just gotta have a name chart of every name I possibly need to know as a sports podcaster.
Speaker 1:That's too many.
Speaker 2:It is too many. But Anthony Richardson, he's going to be back next year. They have a good offensive coordinator slash head coach behind them. They have all their pieces they're adding to their team. So the division's not going to be any easier for that Jaguars team either. So there probably will never be a point where Trevor Lawrence is really going to be able to earn that contract. He's gotten On top of the fact he really like we're rank. We're gonna start doing rankings, by the way, probably not this coming week because you're gonna be gone, but the week after we'll start doing position rankings and stuff like that going into the nfl season, sweet. So give us a lot more content to kind of give with on a weekly basis. Um, but yeah, I like trevor lawrence. When you're talking about top quarterbacks, he's for sure outside the top five. I'd probably say he's probably inside the top 10, because after 5, 6, 7, it starts to get a little weird after that probably in the top 10, depending on who they say.
Speaker 1:I could look at them.
Speaker 2:There could be an argument for some guys oh, there can be, and I feel like, based on what he's done on the football field, there's nothing you can do when it comes to like the actual. When you're talking about anything other than on the field, you're talking about his size, his strength, the way he can throw the football around. When it comes to his tangibles, all that makes sense, right, but when it comes to his intangibles and what he's done actually on the football field, there's no argument for him. It's crazy that Tennessee was so, I mean not Tennessee, the him and like so. It's crazy that Tennessee was so, I mean not Tennessee.
Speaker 2:The Jaguars are so willing to give him that money. But here's the thing they have nobody else like without him. Like they're back to the bottom again and they only they and they've already put so much money into that team is that they pretty much have to stick with them long term. But they just might be stuck with a lame duck quarterback that even like when he was coming out of college people were calling him the next andrew luck for how great of a prospect he was. But at least andrew luck, you can tell, was held back by his team. Real quick.
Speaker 1:Trevor lawrence has been given every opportunity and I sit back and look at all these like top prospects and my brain goes man, andrew luck was that talented?
Speaker 2:oh, he was sick at freaking stanford.
Speaker 1:He was awesome and he was in the nfo and he was still that awesome despite all of his injuries he came in and exploded right away, and he would.
Speaker 2:He threw a lot of picks but he exploded right away, played very well, like by a second, third year he was. He was like really ascending as being considered one of the best guys and like he played that way and it was his team not being able to protect him and his injuries that led to him retiring early. I feel like that was like four or five years now, so like it's been a while since he retired, but he was that good when he came out and started playing with the Colts. But yeah, trevor Lawrence man, I just don't like with that now money he's being paid, it's going to be an even higher sense of scrutiny being put on him when his team doesn't perform well.
Speaker 2:And going into next year, houston's not getting any worse. They are a young team that's now added more pieces. They have stefan digs now like they have soap, like their team has only gotten better, while I could probably say the jags have gotten worse in a few ways, like they added uh, they added what's-his-face from the Bills Gabe Davis, gabe Davis and they lost the oh no.
Speaker 2:See, now I'm coming up with names. Now I don't remember the wide receiver that they got from the Falcons, oh, Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley. They lost it, they didn't want to pay him and they paid Gabe Davis and Calvin Ridley ends up going to Tennessee, so he's going to end up coming back to hurt you on the backend. So, like with all that being the case, I just don't know how.
Speaker 1:Tennessee's going to be scary.
Speaker 2:Well, if they're, if, as long as they their whole, the coaching works out. Callahan, the guy you get, they got you guys If he ends up being a good coach and can really put an offense together.
Speaker 1:They bolstered their wide receiver room a little bit. They did Dehop. They added Tyler Boyd, which is kind of just another sure hand, and then hopefully Calvin Ridley can be better.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So with all that being the case, I just don't think it's going to get any easier.
Speaker 1:For that Jaguars team man that kind of fucking sucks, why? What do you mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know, tyler Boyd's been on my team for a very long fucking time, yeah, but he's also been the point of contention for you, because you were looking at him dropping touchdowns and you're like, ah who he probably.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be honest, he probably had some of the most short hands in the league.
Speaker 2:For a while there, yeah, and then he, like it, dropped considerably.
Speaker 1:It was one in the Super Bowl and it never came back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it honestly only got worse from there.
Speaker 1:That was his first. That was his first pass drop of the year. He had not dropped a pass all year. He had received like 100-something and he just One touchdown in the Super Bowl and just can never fix it. I know, but like I was, we drafted him back in the year after, the year before John Ross.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's true. What was his second round pick? He was a no he was pick 11.
Speaker 1:First round, oh man, first round, pick, pick 11.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, first round pick, pick 11. That's crazy. Yeah, you notice that we couldn't Fucking draft, so you say that was crazy. But he was a thousand Receivers for his two years.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't think about that. Huh, he was. But he was standing next to AJ Green. Shit must be easy when he's over there.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, yeah for sure, no question, yeah, that's. Yeah, that's crazy man, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah for sure, no question, yeah, that's crazy man, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But what's crazy is the fact that he's been in the league that long. Oof my brain went this motherfucker's 28. To my mind, he's 29.
Speaker 2:Hopefully he'll be better with Tennessee. Maybe they can get a lot better out of him.
Speaker 1:I don't wish for his downfall at all. He's a great player. You're a bangle for life. Same thing with Joe Mixon. Longs out against you? Heck, he's with the Texans. They're in the same division. We don't play that division this year, so, thank God, what division do we play this year?
Speaker 2:I'll get you that. Give me just a second here.
Speaker 1:I, I'll get you that. Give me just a second here.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad, I'm so glad we played that.
Speaker 1:We played that division this year. I'm so fucking happy.
Speaker 2:Yes, your very easy schedule. I I totally agree. What division do we play? For the For the AFC. It looks like the AFC West who the?
Speaker 1:fuck is the AFC West? It looks like the AFC West.
Speaker 2:Who the fuck is the AFC West? No, maybe that's just because they're both good teams, chiefs, because we played the NFC East this year. We definitely played them. And then for the AFC, there really is no specific. Nfc East is the cross-conference team we played this year is no specific. Nfc East is the cross conference teams we play this year.
Speaker 1:Who's in the NFC East?
Speaker 2:Dallas Giants, washington Trash niggas Got it, yeah, but you do end up playing a lot of AFC West teams, though. You play the Raiders, you play the Chargers and you play the Chiefs.
Speaker 1:More trash. Niggas Got it. You named one good team and Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I totally agree. I already agree. Your schedule's very easy, so you're not going to get me to try to fight for the other way.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I'm not fighting that, I'm just saying like you guys play the same teams. It's just like both those divisions kind of suck. The Chargers are the second best team in their division and Justin Herbert's kind of throwing Joe Alt's great and all, but there's four other niggas on that line. Just because one's good doesn't mean the rest of them are good. Believe me.
Speaker 2:I do think Harbaugh will have that Chargers team playing better football, but again, will they be able to finish?
Speaker 1:games. Like you said, Harbaugh loves running the ball.
Speaker 2:He loves it.
Speaker 1:You ain't got no one to run the ball with bro.
Speaker 2:Hey, maybe he found somebody and Jay.
Speaker 1:Harbaugh going to look at you when you tell him to run a fucking option. Oh, they're never going to ask him to do that and tell you to fuck yourself.
Speaker 2:He's being paid so much money now. They're not going to ask him to do that whatsoever, Especially with all the injuries he already gets by playing with them.
Speaker 1:I know. He gets such minor injuries in the same year and by week 11 he's like all right, I think I'm done for the year. Yeah, no question, like he was playing. Yeah, he's not a big injury guy, it's just he the minor injuries like fucking compound yeah on top of each other. And by the time, on top of top, yeah, by the time we're halfway through the season, he's like all right, I can't feel my hand anymore but yeah, trevor lawrence, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2:It's a big contract. They have a lot of faith in him. Hopefully he can pay that faith off with some playoff success and or super bowl. I'm not gonna put any money on that, though, because they're not really a well-run organization in the first place, and I don't think trevor lawrence is all that great like. He's a good quarterback, I just don't think he's necessarily top of the league great, and he really hasn't shown that as of yet in his career, other than him looking good on the football field when he's throwing it.
Speaker 2:Alright, speaking of all the people getting paid, we'll talk about some people not getting paid. Jamar Chase shows up for mandatory minicamp. He's looking for his money, but he has shown up. He showed up to mandatory minicamp, ready to go. I feel like this is a show of good faith from his side saying hey, I'm going to show up, I'm going to be a team guy, you're going to have to pay me, no matter what, because you're going to want to keep Joe Burrow happy. And Joe Burrow is going to tell them hey, if we can't keep both of them, you're going to keep Jamar Chase and you're going to pay him and be happy doing it.
Speaker 2:And speaking of the other guy, t Higgins, he has now signed his franchise tender. He's going to get paid $21.8 million this year, fully guaranteed. He is now going to be at everything because he has signed his deal. I feel like you think this is going to be the last hurrah for this version of the team. I don't know If you had to put a percentage chance on it, what is the percentage? 50. They signed T Higgins for long term. They just keep this whole thing.
Speaker 1:This whole shebang going 50.
Speaker 2:And on top of Hendrickson wanting to get paid as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, Hendrickson, I think we won't pay. Hendrickson's low is about 32. Now Hendrickson has outwardly stated hey, I want to retire here.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And I guess once players get that thing in their head of hey, I want to retire here, I feel like their production starts going down, and in a way that Cam Hayward probably wouldn't, because he's like I'm a stealer.
Speaker 2:Heck. No, that's funny because Cam Hayward has openly said he's talking about, he's looking for money right now and apparently he has dropped some hands about potentially playing for other teams as well. I feel like he's just playing the contract game.
Speaker 1:I feel like the Steelers are going to pay him, If you want to come be a bangle and just say fuck the Steelers, we'll welcome you open arms.
Speaker 2:The name was the Browns.
Speaker 1:Nigga why?
Speaker 2:He played at Ohio State.
Speaker 1:Nigga, we just as close to Columbus as you. As you are, we closer to columbus. The bangles are closer. Cleveland's two hours away, so now he's an hour and a half I feel like it's all just playing games when it comes trying to get your money.
Speaker 2:He did play for the buckers yeah gross but yeah, so like, could this be the last hurrah? It potentially could be, and this is what I talked about is that if he did sign that tender, maybe I was hoping that he would essentially get some type of guarantee that they wouldn't franchise tag him again, because the Bengals could just turn around and do the exact same thing over again and not really give him his long term security at that point, just sign him.
Speaker 1:Sign him to a three year deal. I don't know, maybe it's just they give him his long-term security.
Speaker 2:At that point, just sign him. Sign him to a three-year deal. I don't know, maybe it's just they realize, hey, we can't do it, they don't want to do it, money-wise, they don't want to do it money-wise is why?
Speaker 1:Because if we sign them both, then money's tight.
Speaker 2:But that's the thing it's not like we have to skimp out Miami's doing it.
Speaker 1:Philadelphia's doing it. It works, but that's the thing. We don't have to skimp out anywhere else. I guess the only position we have to skimp out at is fucking safety. But they were shitty before. They can continue to be shitty. We have decent DBs. They're okay. They're perfectly fine. We have really good coverage linebackers.
Speaker 2:And if you can plan on your team drafting well in the near future, then you could put more resources towards that, and then you just have to draft well and kind of fill in the pieces.
Speaker 1:Which we drafted. Fine, we brought Von Bell back so we could teach Jordan Battle. Yeah, we like Jordan Battle, everyone likes Jordan Battle. No one thinks he was a bad player. Everybody thinks he did very okay. Everybody thinks he has more to prove Jackson Hill, but Jordan Battle is really good. Jordan Battle, yes. It's just the fact we're trying to move Jackson Hill again this year to a corner. Hey bro, you don't have a good vision. You don't see the ball well and you can't tackle. You think Joey Porter can't tackle? Daxon Hill is small and can't tackle. Like what is it? Dj Turner, dj Ivy? No, dj Turner. Dj Turner, our DB, the really little one. He can fucking tackle. Well, he has the form down to tackle. He has really good tackling form.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So he can slow people down. He's not a great tackler.
Speaker 2:But he's not really a big dude, so that really doesn't help him at all, but the way he tackles is a routine.
Speaker 1:He's gonna tackle somebody. He's gonna tackle somebody. He's great at wrapping people up Yep, you know what? That's great. Cam Taylor Britt is a big motherfucker. He can tackle, but that's the thing you can't cover and you can't tackle and you can't stop getting fouled on fucking punt returns. I had to watch your dumbass during the fucking AFC Championship get flagged four times on punt returns, not on different punt returns.
Speaker 1:You get flagged four times on punt returns, not on different punt returns. You got flagged three times on the same fucking punt return Offsides. You hit the kicker and then a block in the back. How you cost us 20 yards. He legit cost us 35 yards in one foul swoop. Yep, you didn't even get to the ball that fast. You fucking missed. Okay, sorry.
Speaker 2:He's going down the tangent.
Speaker 1:Yes, we suck at drafting first rounders. I'm going to get that out there. We can't fucking draft Second and third rounders, though we're great at drafting those guys. I'll give you that. Yeah. No, you're doing a good job. Second, third and even fourth rounders we're really good at that. Why can't we pick good first round guys? I understand the year we drafted Daxon Hill we were at 31.
Speaker 2:Yeah, late in the first round.
Speaker 1:So okay, that's fine, but then the next year we drafted Myles Murphy.
Speaker 2:That's fine, but then the next year we drafted Miles Murphy, who didn't see the field at all last year, like barely at all.
Speaker 1:You stacked in defensive line that didn't really need stacking, and then they go defensive line again this year. No, we went heavy DB this year. Oh, okay. This year, our first round pick was O-line. What was it? Yeah, we picked O-line and youlineman. You wanted, no, you didn't. Oh, who was it then? We picked the O-lineman that had no zero fucking experience, played for Georgia, the really, really big oh yes, the biggest motherfucker in the draft, with zero experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who's not about to play for the next two years? Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1:No, that's exactly who you picked we drafted the biggest raw talent O-lineman in the draft Looking at our two top five O-linemen who are both signed for the next two years.
Speaker 2:Yep, they're like hey, they're signing for the future, I guess.
Speaker 1:Hey, learn from one of them. Figure out if you're going to play left or right and learn from one of them. Yeah, do you want to play left, tackle. Go learn from Orlando Brown. If you want to play left, tackle. Go learn from linda brown. She won't go play right tackle.
Speaker 2:Go learn from trent brown which is which is crazy, because recently joe burrow was talking about his football mortality. He's like when he's like, looking at all the injuries I have gotten throughout my career so far in the nfl, it I can't help but look at my football mortality a little bit and be like, hey, this doesn't last forever. And I'm like, if you already have. Like when patchwell holmes talks, he doesn't ever talk like that because one he hasn't really had that many injuries and if he has, he's pretty much powered through them, won three super bowls now. But, like when you have players that are already talking like that so early on in their careers, it is a kind of cause for concern, because andrew luck was talking about that same exact thing. He ended up pulling the trigger on it because he had so many injuries he couldn't help it anymore. So when you have Joe Burrow talking like that, you need to invest in keeping him healthy, because if he isn't, these guys are making so much money they can make that decision early on in their career.
Speaker 1:If Joe Burrow retires before he finishes this contract, I will have to switch to a different team. No ifs, ands or buts about it. I will have to find a new team. There is no other option. I have to go find a different team Because I can't. We will never pay for the quarterback talent. We won't even pay for the own talent we fucking draft.
Speaker 2:True, he fell into your hands and he was a revelation, and you had no choice but to pay him.
Speaker 1:But you can't really guarantee if that's going to happen next time If we keep letting him get hurt. I will have to find a new team. I can't do it. I'll go be a fucking Colts fan.
Speaker 2:Because I do think to a certain degree he is. I think we can kind of come to an agreement where he is kind of injury prone in comparison to a lot of guys, I think, when you let up 50 sacks.
Speaker 1:In his first year we let up 38. In his second year we let up 53.
Speaker 2:What's going to happen? He's not going to get healthier. It's supposed to happen, dude. He's not going to get healthier, it was a miracle.
Speaker 1:He made it all 18 games that second year Into the Super Bowl. And then we let up 20 sacks just to get to the Super Bowl Yep, it's a miracle. He was sacked 70 times. We legit would have broke the record if this fucking postseason counted. He set a postseason record for getting sacked by the second game, when he got sacked nine times by the Titans Yep. And then this next year he gets sacked another. What? He got sacked another like 40 times and then like 15. And then he got hurt the game before the AFC Championship. He twisted his ankle up or something and then it happened again. His fourth year he got sacked, like this year. It was better.
Speaker 1:Well, fourth year it was the elbow injury, but again it was because of a sack.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was getting s injury, but again it was because of a sack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was getting sacked. They hit his elbow Same injury as Purdy. Same injury as Purdy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the wrist injury.
Speaker 1:It was legit. It was the same kind of play as Purdy's, but he was protecting his elbow.
Speaker 2:Weeks before that he would walk around with a cast on his hand Because he had been sacked and he landed on it, but this year he got through what? He only played like eight games. I feel like he was playing 11, 12, and 13. I feel like he was starting off like I think he played 12.
Speaker 1:12 games so far Because Jake Browning finished out the season.
Speaker 2:Because they got to the middle of the season where they were looking really good and everybody was like, oh, the Bengals are going to carry again when we fucked up the oh, we came off the bye week and just smoked Like we smoked four of the top ten teams. Including the Niners.
Speaker 1:We absolutely packed the Niners Yep and then the next week, Joe.
Speaker 2:Burrow got hurt. Yep Against the Ravens and it was over. It was the fucking Ravens.
Speaker 1:It was you know who's dumb, as it was Fucking Patrick Queen. There you go. It was Patrick Queen that got to his ass.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Now he's with us and it's just if he was to come back. If he gets hurt again this year and come back to us next year, like hey, I'm done.
Speaker 2:I don't think that.
Speaker 1:I feel like he has that mentality. If it's a leg injury or if it's another arm injury, he may sit back and be, like I.
Speaker 2:Heck, there's no guarantee this whole wrist injury will not be a problem this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but again, if he gets another ACL, he's going to sit back and be like, hey, if I get another arm injury I'm not going to be able to fucking walk.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You have guys like Drew Brees and Peyton Manning who are like it hurts to raise my arm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Drew Brees can't throw with his right arm and Peyton Manning legit.
Speaker 1:I still can't feel things in my right arm.
Speaker 2:That was his neck injury.
Speaker 1:Yes, but numbness Every time. He's like I still have numbness all down my right arm. He's like I can throw, but I don't feel it.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't help that these players are making so much money earlier on in their career.
Speaker 1:That it's not about money?
Speaker 2:no more. The money has already been taken care of I'm playing to play. Right Now they're playing to play and they're playing for their legacies. And if they can't be kept upright, for their legacies they can't stay healthy. They can make that decision and be like, hey, my family's taken care of, that's not a problem, no more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Joe Burrow, his family was fine before.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, his dad was a head coach at freaking Ohio. They were well off before that, so he doesn't have that same issue. And now that he's been paid all this money, if two or three years down the line so many injuries stack up, he can make that same decision as Andrew Luck. And if the Bengals don't take care of it now which is what I feel like they're trying to do, even after all the damage has already been done so far, they're trying. They're at least trying to give him some help.
Speaker 1:Hopefully they'll be able to do all of it Like. I kid you not. I can't go back to being mediocre, because mediocre in the North is bad. Mediocre is 9-8 and missing the playoffs. And when am I? If I'm in what? The NFC fucking South, the NFC North, the NFC West, I'm making the fucking playoffs. Mediocre in the AFC is a death sentence. Like that's where we're at with this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because all the quarterbacks are young and ready to go.
Speaker 1:All the quarterbacks are in the fucking AFC. They're never drafted in the. Nfc they're only. This past year is when most of them were drafted in the NFC. And you're looking at the AFC like damn, I see nine top ten quarterbacks. And you look over there and it's like hey, dak you got Jalen.
Speaker 2:You got Jalen Hurts. They got Jordan Love.
Speaker 1:And they got.
Speaker 2:Brock Purdy. I said top ten. You love Brock Purdy so much, you put Brock Purdy in top ten, don't you? I'd?
Speaker 1:say there's an argument for him to be right around 8, from 8 to 10.
Speaker 2:I think Jalen, even though he had last year, he kind of struggled.
Speaker 1:I still think he's a top 10 guy, but they have a whole new line they do. They have a lot of guys to replace and last year I was saying he had to prove it and he didn't really prove it to me. No, he didn, didn't?
Speaker 2:I feel like that was a whole team, the whole team, and that's fine.
Speaker 1:But again, when you didn't prove it to me, I'm not gonna put you up there.
Speaker 2:I guess we'll find out when we do our quarterback rankings, um in the next couple weeks or so, um, but yeah, all that being the case, oh, I can't put Trice to it too, can I damn that sucks. Yeah, I wait did you hear about when, uh, cj Stroud talked about his, his top five quarterbacks? Yeah, damn, that sucks. Yeah, wait, did you hear about when CJ Stroud talked about his top five quarterbacks?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he didn't have Joe Burrow in the top five. But it was just based off of last year because Joe Burrow didn't play. He was like I love Joe Burrow. He's like one of the main guys I talk to, obviously him being a Buckeye and all, but he's like he didn't really play all this year so he kind of kept them off and he included himself in the top five. But I'm like, based on how last year went, I don't think he's wrong.
Speaker 1:Live your life, bro.
Speaker 2:You're probably going to be like six or seven for me anyway, but he had Lamar up there, he had Mahomes up there, he had himself he had he forgot Josh Allen wasn't in the top five. I think you're very happy about that.
Speaker 1:Good man.
Speaker 2:He had Jalen in his top five. See, that's fine. And he had one more. It was one more guy. It wasn't Jordan Love, it was probably Herbert, I think. Maybe Doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1:But like I didn't think you didn't really have a problem with it because you would have freaked out if you heard it and like had it? No, it's fine, because I heard him say that and I'm like all right it, I can't have him in my top five. He was fucking injured.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he'll be higher than Josh Allen. If Josh Allen's in the top five, he'll be forever higher than Josh Allen. Fuck you. Joe Burrow could go up, joe Burrow could die, and he would still have Joe Burrow higher than Josh Allen.
Speaker 1:But Joe Burrow's six feet under.
Speaker 2:No, josh Allen's seven feet, but he's not dead yet. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Might as well be Dude like, come on, Like I probably, He'll probably be right around the same place. Jay Harbaugh is. They were both injured last year. Both of you didn't have Both of them. They got injured at similar points in the season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Herbert played all 17.
Speaker 1:Did he, that motherfucker, did not play all 17.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did. Yeah, he was doing it with a cast on his hand as well. Justin Herbert Stats it's the only one I'm going to have pro football reference, that's the only one I'm gonna profile by reference.
Speaker 1:That's the only one I go to. I have it. I go to ESPN because it always like passes the whole thing um 13, he played 13 games yeah, like I said, they got hurt right around the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 13 games. Sorry, but I feel like they shut. It was more of them shutting him down because they realized they weren't going to do anything.
Speaker 1:Who the fuck is Joe Ryan? Why? The fuck would I want to talk about him that doesn't make any sense, but yeah, so like yeah, Joe Burrow played 11. Jay Herbo played 13. So two games apart there was a couple hundred yard difference. That's the thing. I'd rank them both around the same place, Probably like six and seven.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Of hey. I know what you are I know how good you are, but you're both coming off injuries. You got something to prove. You have something to prove. Can you continue to produce how you normally produce, especially Joe Burrow? I find it, but I'd be damned if Josh Allen's ahead of him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know any of those guys that nigga might not even make my list.
Speaker 1:I will do everything in my power for him and Dak not to make my list.
Speaker 2:I did it last year well, dak was gonna make a list. We rank all 32 quarterbacks.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we do oh shit, I forget, we do all 32 for that a list. We rank all 32 quarterbacks. Oh yeah, we do. Oh shit, I forget, we do all 32 For that position.
Speaker 2:Quarterbacks, do all 32. They won't be hot. Stop it, they won't be hot.
Speaker 1:I'll see where I can fit him in, somewhere around 20-25.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, next. You think I'm joking.
Speaker 1:Fuck around and find out. Javante, I'm not going to Because I will find out.
Speaker 2:Javante, I'm not going to because I will find out no matter what, and it's going to be an argument once we get there.
Speaker 1:Let's get this podcast over with.
Speaker 2:Well, I have a couple more things left. Josh Browns wide receiver, mark Cooper, did not show up to minicamp. He's in the last year of his $100 million deal with a non-guaranteed $20 million salary. This season he is looking to get paid more money. He's in. Let me look at how old he is. I think mario cooper's like around 29. He's like 28, 29.
Speaker 1:I don't think I say they don't pay him again mario cooper, age he's he's currently 30 years old.
Speaker 2:Last year he did produce he had, I think it was, a thousand yard receiver once again last year with Deshaun Watson and freaking.
Speaker 1:Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2:I'll give him Joe Flacco. Actually I can give him Joe Flucco based on how he played in that last game in the playoffs. He backed Flucco once again yeah, awful but yeah, no he.
Speaker 2:So he did produce again last year. He is their best wide receiver by far, no questions asked, even when they traded for jerry judy from the broncos and paid him like 70 something million dollars. I do feel like mario cooper is their number one guy, but what are they going to pay him? What is he looking for? What is the number that you would have to stop at? Is he? If he's asking for 25 million dollars a year, would you say no, no, no, no, no. The top number is 35, just remind us of that. So like 20 is 20 million dollars too much.
Speaker 1:Devonta smith get he's at 30, okay. How much did waddle get? He's at 30, okay.
Speaker 2:You can't have anything above 25, it's 25 is it, even though he's their number one receiver? Okay, you can't have anything above 25. 25 is it, even though he's their number one receiver? Yeah, honestly, 25 to 30 is where I'm at. If he is looking for that number, he is right in looking for that. Whether the Browns are going to pay him that money is a totally separate issue, especially when they're paying Deshaun Watson a fully guaranteed contract right now for the next three years or so. So their money may not necessarily be the best as of right now. They're paying Garrett a bunch of money. They're paying their defense. Their defense has a lot of money on their books. So if Amari Cooper is looking for $25 to $30 million a year in another three-year deal or so, I can understand why the Browns I can understand why he.
Speaker 1:I can see why they'd be apprehensive about that A 30-year-old receiver.
Speaker 2:And here's another thing nobody's really talking about is, if you're paying him that type of money, you have to trust that his quarterback is going to be able to get him the numbers to be worth that type of money, that his quarterback is going to be able to get him the numbers to be worth that type of money. And Deshaun Watson, based on last time we've seen him play, he's been garbage and he's coming off a shoulder injury to his throwing shoulder. So, with all that being the case, I just don't know how he can. I understand what he's looking for, but I don't understand how the Browns could even be willing to have that conversation.
Speaker 1:I agree. Just what a scam.
Speaker 2:I feel like they're going to look at him and say, hey, we're going to let you play out this season, come to camp, come do all this, and then we're going to let you walk and you can go be on the open market and figure out which money you can get then. But I understand him trying to get it now because, who knows, this year could suck and he could get nowhere near the money he's looking for right now because of what his production was last year. But no, I totally get it. It's a situation where I understand both sides. And let's see, last but not least, aaron Rodgers. He made a big deal last week when he did not show up to minicamp.
Speaker 2:It was an unexcused absence, according to the Jets, and he's potentially going to get fined by the nflpa with their their whole thing so with him not showing up to minicamp, and apparently there was no good reason given as to why that's the case and the jets funny from the jet side of it. Why didn't they just call it excused? Yeah, they could have just said it was an excused absence and none of this would have happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah so.
Speaker 2:But now, since they're like, hey, it's not an, it's, it's unexcused, now they're gonna be like hey, what? Where was he at?
Speaker 1:why was it so important? What's the noise?
Speaker 2:and I feel like locker room right aaron rogers is as much as as big as he is on the football field.
Speaker 2:His name has become even bigger off the football field for for his, his, uh, his stances when it comes to COVID and everything like that, and his voice has gotten so big off the field that it becomes a bigger issue.
Speaker 2:So, with all that being the case, and especially when, a few weeks ago, aaron Rogers talking about, hey, we need to get all that BS out of locker room and out of the team and hey, if we don't all play how we're supposed to play this year and get where we need to get to, we're all going to be fired.
Speaker 2:So when you have Aaron Rodgers kind of giving out that message and acting like he's going to be the guy to get them there, and then when the first day of minicamp comes up, and then he doesn't show up and none of the team knows about it, how is that supposed to be a message supposed to be received by the team and by the media at large and by all fans? Right, when Jets fans are like, hey, based on how last season went, we want this season to go a lot differently, how is that giving anybody any type of good, warm feelings when he's missing the first day. So I don't know, man, I would like to see the Jets do well, because obviously Garrett Wilson is a wide receiver for them. I want to see him do well.
Speaker 2:I don't like the like outside of that, aaron Rodgers become a really toxic dude and I came to like he just has a lot of effort in him. He's going to say the wrong thing to kind of make everybody upset, and if that's going to have the attitude you're going to have off the field, and then on the field you start struggling and people start looking for your downfall. You, you and people start looking for your downfall. You built your own grave, you dug your own grave at that point. So, aaron Rodgers, that Jets team is only going to get louder throughout the offseason. Hopefully they can get to the season without any more troubles. But I'm not going to put any money on it because that's just what it's been ever since he got there.
Speaker 1:I agree, I think Aaron Rodgers is just that kind of. He's a locker room cancer. He's not good for the team. He's not good for any team. He may win you a lot, but he's a diva and there's nothing else to do with him.
Speaker 2:And let's not even talk about that. He's 40 years old, he is 40. He's 40. And, like I hate to say it, but ever since he now he's coming off a meniscus tear, so like.
Speaker 2:with all that being the case, I just don't know how you're gonna expect him to come back and be the same player he was back then, when it's been a lot it's been a minute since he's been that the MVP caliber type of guy a long time since he's been that so I just this is like a big question mark in the air and hopefully Aaron Rodgers will come out and prove some people wrong, but I'm not going to put any money on that because he's a like Tom Brady made it to 43, 44 years old and everybody's like oh, every quarterback can do that. I'm like Tom.
Speaker 2:Brady is an outlier in a lot of ways, especially when it comes to making as long as he did, playing as well as he did at the age he did, and I just feel like everybody used to agree that around 30, 30, 35 is where people players started going down when it comes to production, and I feel like Tom Brady ruined that. And I feel like Aaron Rodgers might be the case study for it going back to that happening, because when it happened to Ben Roethlisberger, nobody questioned it because he had so many injuries in his career. True, but like Aaron Rodgers, everybody thinks he's just going to be able to do it and I just I don't have that same type of faith in him. I wouldn't. Ok, oh, she's got their rings. Did it suck watching them do that Like it sucks? It's them having all the hype in the world they're not going to be looking for.
Speaker 1:He's still dating yeah.
Speaker 2:Fuck. Oh yeah, she showed up on somebody's like one of their girlfriend's Instagram lives while it was all happening, while it was being live streamed, and Taylor Swift was like, hey, come in from whatever country she's in. It's like late at night or whatever, but like yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, taylor Swift's all into the Chiefs culture now, so another season of that right, no, and so another season of that right, and she'll be probably off tour by then. So it'll be even worse. She'll be at all games, and Travis Kelsey said he's gonna play until his wheels fall off. So like we're gonna get another two, three years of this.
Speaker 1:He's missing. Fucking lug nuts. Those wheels are coming off soon. Fucking, be like the Detroit player and go for that nigga's knees.
Speaker 2:Nobody's gonna do that. That's not necessary.
Speaker 1:Alright, damn, I miss that nigga Vontaze Perfect, he would do that.
Speaker 2:Alright, we've had a very good podcast today.
Speaker 1:He was great for shit like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when it comes to ruining people's lives and tearing their heads off, yeah, he was very good at that.
Speaker 1:He made Antonio Brown crazy. He was already crazy before that Nobody's ever going to convince me. Yeah, but that CTE didn't help.
Speaker 2:It doesn't help, but I believe he was totally a crazy person before that. Mike Tomlin is a freaking saint for holding on to him as long as he did. But yeah, so great podcast today. We've had a lot of good conversations and it's a very good podcast, other than the long drawn silences we had. Looking for things, it happened twice.
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