JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Thrilling College Football Near-Upset, Upcoming Matchup Predictions, and Heated NFL Analysis
What happens when a 19-point underdog gives the favorite a run for their money? We kick off this episode with a gripping review of the Miami vs. Virginia Tech showdown that had fans on the edge of their seats. From a gutsy fake field goal to a contentious reversed touchdown call, Virginia Tech's near-upset of Miami is packed with thrilling moments and critical blunders. We dissect the game's turning points and analyze how Miami managed to escape with a narrow victory, despite being pushed to their limits by an unexpectedly fierce opponent.
Next, we turn our attention to some of the most electrifying college football matchups on the horizon. Can Notre Dame's formidable defense shut down Louisville's high-octane offense? Will Georgia's seasoned roster prove too much for Alabama's young secondary? We break down the strengths and weaknesses of each team, offering bold predictions and strategic insights. Our discussion also highlights how Georgia's rigorous schedule could impact their playoff aspirations, shining a spotlight on key players who need to step up for their teams to prevail.
Switching gears to the NFL, we tackle predictions for crucial games and dive into a heated fantasy football debate. Injuries loom large as we assess the New Orleans vs. Atlanta game and the Rams' chances against the Bears. Should you start Sam Darnold or Joe Burrow this week? We lean towards Burrow, backed by compelling arguments and recent performances. From analyzing defensive struggles to evaluating high-stakes contracts, this episode covers the gamut of football drama. Don't miss our in-depth look at strategic decisions, including potential trades and the value of players like Joey Bosa. Join us as we wrap up the show with final thoughts and our signature farewell.
welcome back to this podcast.
Speaker 2:Today's saturday, september 28th, and we are back in the podcast we're here saturday morning, uh, just before any start of college football, um just before noon, and uh, we're gonna talk again. Talk about college football, nfl football, um picks, all that. I think there's only like one story I wanted to talk, actually not really. Um, this must be a game thing, so we're not gonna get into too much crazy stuff, so let's not. Uh, what is it? What does it say I'm looking for?
Speaker 2:digress oh yeah, I guess digress would be yeah, that's, that works, so let's get into it. So, first game I want to talk about the game that was last night. Okay, jace, I know you didn't watch it at all, be working, and then you went and gone to sleep, totally understand. So there was one, two games that happened last night. It was miami and vatek played last night and then ruckers and washington played last night. The better game was was between Miami and Vautech. Miami went into that game being like 19-point favorites. I only know that because I did bet on Miami to cover that spread. Definitely did not work last night. Miami ended up winning the game 38-34.
Speaker 2:This was an awesome game, vautech, coming off of the bad loss they had to heck. They lost at the beginning of the season to freaking Vanderbilt and they lost last week. I forget who they lost to, but you were thinking that Miami should be able to win this game going away. But I think Vatek, going into Miami's house, came in playing their best, like deciding, hey, we're going to play our best football we possibly can, and that's exactly what they did last night. They didn't make a ton of mistakes. Kyron Jones, their quarterback, only threw one interception and like it just seemed like early on in the second quarter when it just in the first quarter Miami ended up outscoring them 14 to 7. But in that second quarter Vatek was able to rattle off 17 points to Miami's three to really take a like a 10 point lead going into the half. No, seven point lead going to the half. And it has felt like in there in the middle of that game looks like Vatek had taken control, had a lead, was flirting with the seven to ten point lead and they just kind of let Miami get back into it in the end. I already mentioned the quarterback play.
Speaker 2:Cam Ward, on the other side for Miami, played very, played pretty well, other than his two picks being kind of bad. Um, he had some turnover worthy plays, which is what the story has been on cam ward ever since he was at Washington State. He doesn't like really taking care of the football that much. It's kind of been under control for the most part this year, but this game had definitely kind of flared back up with two picks last night and then he should add a few more, uh, turnover worthy plays as well. But he played 24, 38, 343 yards, four touchdowns, two picks.
Speaker 2:But here's the, here's the controversy at the end because in the fourth quarter Vatek scored a touchdown with 12 minutes and five seconds left to go up 10 points. But then after that they gave the ball back to Miami, where Miami went and scored a touchdown but they the Vatek wasn't able to get the ball back and do anything offensively. And then also at the um, there was also a point in the I think the fourth, the second half, where Vatek had the ball and they had an opportunity to take get three points to go up 10, and they tried to go for a fake field goal instead and it got stuffed. It was totally bad. So they gave the ball back to miami, which ended up hitting a field goal um before the half went. So that's potentially they could have been up 10. Now it's only seven. Sorry, they could have been up 13 and now it's only seven.
Speaker 2:So it's a six point swing for that game but then the actual controversy comes at the end of the game, yeah, where miami has the ball with two minutes left. It was two minutes left, right? Yeah, no, sorry, vatek gets the ball back with two minutes left. You're like, okay, fine, that's plenty of time, let's go ahead and let's uh take this ball down the field. But what vatek does is they waste I telling you, a good 30 to 50 of those seconds just off of not using their time. They had two timeouts going into this drive, not calling their timeouts and playing around and not snapping the ball exactly when the clock comes up again. So they waste a good portion of their time from their own coaching mistakes. But here's the thing Even with all that, they still get down the field and they still have a chance at a last-second kind of like Hail Mary type of play with like three seconds left to try to win the game.
Speaker 2:And this is the play at the end of the game, kyron Jones throws the ball down the field into the end zone and this is what happens in the. So they all go up for it and then they come down it. So they all go up for it and then they come down. It looks like the Vatek player and I'm showing this to Jace as I'm saying this the Vatek player comes down with the ball in his hand and it seems like the Miami player who's out of bounds, kind of takes the ball out of his hand and makes it pop out. They called it a touchdown on the field and then they reversed it when they went to review it. That looks like a touchdown. He comes down with the ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if the ball's popped out after they have landed and he has to. That dude has to be fully inbounds to reestablish himself inside the play.
Speaker 2:Right, because once you're out of bounds, you're outside the play and that's technically happening.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think you have to be back in bounds for another five yards before you can reestablish as a part of the play. He was not.
Speaker 2:You're out of bounds while you're trying to pop that ball out.
Speaker 2:So technically you're not even a part of the play anymore. So that Vatek player comes down with the football, which a lot of people are saying, oh, there's no way to guarantee that he had possession of the ball. But I'm like, by the time he hit the ground the ball is in his hand. And think about it this way If it's a one-on-one play and it's between an offensive and defensive player and the wide receiver at least has halfway possession of the ball, what happens? They give it to the offensive player all the time. So he comes down with the ball in his hand and the Miami player kind of pops it out at the end. So they end up reversing the call because this touchdown would have won the game, because they were down four points at the time, that touchdown would have won the game. And now it ends up being reversing it, giving the win to miami.
Speaker 1:I just it's a bad call.
Speaker 2:It's a bad call and I'm just and it's honestly I don't know how it's like because I look on social media it's very, either way like some people totally believe that my, that wasn't a catch in the first place and that might have been screwed if they would have been the play, and there's other people that were totally on the Vatek side without there was a touchdown and that the officials were giving the win to Miami to make sure they're the best team in the ACC. I am not going to go as far as to say that, because I do think officials are just idiots and that to give them enough credit to think they're smart enough to think this far and just to make it. Oh, let's just make sure miami's the best team in the acc. I don't think that's going to be the case, but that was an absolute awful of a call and I'm like it should have been touchdown. And again I'm saying this I bet on miami to get to the playoff as the um, as the acc champion, so like I have money in on miami, keep being good. But I can totally. I can totally be at least a little bit unbiased and be able to say that that was an obvious touchdown and especially when, on that review, I don't think there was anything that could have like totally, because they say when it comes to video evidence it has to be undisputable. There has to be indisputable proof in the video evidence to overturn the call that was made on the field. And I don't think there was anything there that was enough to even do that, let alone the fact I thought it really was a catch and that the guy was out of bounds that popped it out. So I just think that was a very, uh, very unfortunate for Vatek, because Vatek came and played their best game.
Speaker 2:They possibly could have played defensively, offensively. Defensively, they were able to take advantage of the plays that were given to them. Offensively, their quarterback played well and they were able to make big plays on the field. Vate came in with the perfect game plan. They worked it to perfection to go and beat a team that was better than them and it was taken by the officials and that part is kind of a bummer, but that's all I've got to say about that. Miami stays undefeated. They get to stay the best team in the acc and vautech, unfortunately, is now two and three with one of those, when they should be the other way around. The other game last night rutgers beat washington at washington at home, behind a big day from running back kyle monungai uh 21, 21 to 18. They ended up winning that game. Pretty good game, but I it wasn't as good as the Miami game. So that's why I kind of put more of my attention towards and now we're going to kind of get to the games that are happening today, just to give a little bit of context to them, and then we'll go on to the NFL stuff.
Speaker 2:Kentucky goes to Ole Miss. Ole Miss is a 16-point favorite. I don't think Ole Miss should have an issue. But Kentucky did give Georgia a game. But again, was that because Kentucky had a great game plan or was that because Georgia played the absolute worst they possibly could? I think, as of right now, I think Ole Miss is probably a better team overall. They're probably a little more healthy than Georgia is as of right now, even if I don't believe in the coaching staff and like really at least long term to make the right play every single week for a whole season. But I just I do think Ole Miss should be able to win this game. But can Kentucky make it close like they did against Georgia.
Speaker 2:Minnesota goes to University of Michigan. Michigan's a 10-point favorite, I think. With the way that Michigan was able to play last week, I think it gives a lot of people a false sense of security that Michigan is a lot better team than we thought and that the way they played offense last week is effective. But here's the problem Minnesota doesn't have the offensive and defensive line problems that USC has. I think maybe, if not, minnesota doesn't have the talent that USC probably has, but I do think they have the bodies, and I think what Michigan was able to do to USC last week was the fact that USC didn't have the bodies to withstand a gadget offense where they're just running the football down your throat every single play. That's something Minnesota won't have a problem with. Minnesota may not have the athletes, but guess what? Neither does Michigan. So I do think this is like immovable force. No, no, unstoppable force meets unmovable object. I think we had a problem with this last podcast too. We were trying to say that phrase. I do think it's kind of closer to that, and I think Minnesota could make this a game against Michigan just because they just had. I think they're playing into Minnesota's hands, but I think, cause I think the strength of this team is their offensive defensive lines and not necessarily their athletes. So do you think that game could be closer than what everybody thinks?
Speaker 2:Oklahoma State goes to Kansas State, both these teams coming off of bad losses last week, um, kansas State coming like getting destroyed by BYU. I forget who Oklahoma State lost to, but uh, it's a game that nobody really thought was going to be it. They're both ranked for some reason. Kansas State like after losing. I think Kansas State is. Kansas State has a loss, oklahoma State has a loss, so they're both only one loss in the season Kansas State's quarterback not playing all that well, bowman for Oklahoma State playing okay football. So it's just you know which team is going to like stay in the race for the Big 12 to try to win that league, because I think whoever loses this game is going to be in a bad spot to win the Big 12. And because of that it's not like they're going to be able to make the playoff, because not as many people respect the Big 12 in comparison to the other conferences, a la the Big 10 and the SEC.
Speaker 2:Next one we got Louisville going to Notre Dame. Notre Dame's a six-and-a-half point favorite. I think the big thing for this game is the offense of Louisville versus the defense of Notre Dame, because I think that defense of Notre Dame is the elite part of that team. But I think offensively they're kind of like their best thing they do is run the football, even when they had a cut last couple weeks where I think last week they faced Purdue and destroyed them being able to throw the football and all. But again, purdue's not necessarily that great of a team. I think Louisville has a little bit more defensively where they're going to be able to stop Notre Dame from being able to get big plays down the field. So Notre Dame's gonna have to earn it offensively. So the question is, can Louisville take advantage I mean like be able to do some things against that Notre Dame defense to allow to get points on the board? Because if they do, I think Louisville's defense is good enough to stop Notre Dame from being able to score enough points. So that one's going to be a good one.
Speaker 2:Colorado going to UCF I do think Colorado coming off the big win last week against Baylor where they had to get the last second touchdown to tie the game in regulation and then had to go to overtime and ended up winning that game. I think UCF's a better team. They have as good of athletes. I think offensively it's going to be very hard for Colorado to stop them because UCF runs the football very well and that's something Colorado doesn't do all that well. I think they're okay against the pass because, again, travis Hunter is their best player. But I think when it comes to playing a team that really wants to run the football down your throat, I think UCF has a chance and UCF's 13.5 point favorite the last three games here of college football. Georgia Bama probably the game of the day. Bama's a one-point underdog at home.
Speaker 1:That's definitely the game of the day. Every game you've talked about has kind of been meh.
Speaker 2:I know, but it's not to mention them because they are games that matter. Yeah, do they?
Speaker 1:really yes. Will these teams be in competition for a national championship? Ole Miss, yes. Like. Actually have a chance at winning a national championship, yeah. Or are they going to so obliterated by a team that's far better than them? Got it Like. What the fuck are we talking about? Are they the one with the shitty offense?
Speaker 2:No, Ole Miss has good offense and they've kept their teams that they've faced to like a total of 15 points.
Speaker 1:They have a shitty secondary. That's what their problem is. Their secondary is not that good.
Speaker 2:Maybe they haven't faced anybody to test that yet, but they play well.
Speaker 1:Okay, so now let's go over the teams with you know fast-ass fucking receivers. They're not gonna be able to catch. What's the one kid in Alabama, 17-year-old, he's fast as shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Williams. Yeah, he's fast as all fuck dude. What's the? What's the? Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, dude, oma's ain't a fucking contender, they're a pretender Like the Cowboys.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, I'm trying to get. I'm just trying to give A little bit of love.
Speaker 1:Cause at least they're undefeated. They're playing well Undefeated in my who cares?
Speaker 2:Okay, I was talking about Georgia and Alabama.
Speaker 1:Who's also undefeated Bowling Green?
Speaker 2:No, they're not. They lost last week, I think.
Speaker 1:Again. Who fucking cares?
Speaker 2:Georgia-Bama. Bama's a one-point underdog at home. How do you see the game going, since this is the game that matters?
Speaker 1:Bama's going to lose. That team is mediocre at best. Bama's going to lose.
Speaker 2:I think Georgia like here's the thing I think the team that loses this game. I think if Georgia loses this game, I think Georgia needs this game more, because you know what Georgia has to play they have to go to Bama. I think Georgia's the worst.
Speaker 1:They have to go to Texas.
Speaker 2:They have to go to Bama, to Texas. They have to play Ole Miss, like Georgia, has an absolute, like gauntlet of a schedule, while Alabama, oh, they have to play Tennessee as well. Georgia, all Bama ends up playing is Ole Miss and Tennessee, and then there's Georgia games. So I do think Georgia has the harder part of the schedule. I think Bama, if they lose this game, can still make the playoff. I think Georgia, with this loss, potentially could lose some more games down the road and then potentially not make the playoff, just based on the amount of losses they have, not necessarily the fact that they're all that good. But here's the thing I think the SEC is already trying to make a statement that the SEC is the deepest conference, so that losing more games to better teams should matter more than winning games against worse teams. But I think, when it comes to who I think is going to win this game, I think Georgia having the better quarterback is going to be the biggest deal and I think the fact that Bama secondary is kind of cheeks. They have a very young secondary, they're talented, but they don't know really what they're doing yet. And I think, even with Georgia not necessarily having the most elite of receivers. I think you're going to have some open guys down the field and then Carson Beck, as the Georgia quarterback one of the better quarterbacks in college football is going to be able to hit them down the field in a way that the other teams Bama has played has not been able to, and I think that Georgia defense is a strength of theirs and I think they're going to make it very hard in Alabama to hit the big plays, which is what Bama is honestly their best at. That's what they're the best at is getting big plays down the field, not really nickel and diming you down the field. So I think, with all that being the case, I think this plays into Georgia's hands.
Speaker 2:Could I see Georgia losing this game at Alabama? It's a very hostile environment to go play in. I totally agree, like I think that could be the case, but I would put my money on Georgia if I was going to bet on the game, which I'm not. I'm not betting on Georgia whatsoever. This game I want to stay away from. I just want to have fun watching it. It's gonna be a fun game. Ohio State at Michigan. I know you don't have a lot to say, but I figured I should mention it. It mentions both of our teams. We've talked about it extensively.
Speaker 1:Can we just continue on? Why the fuck are we wasting time on this? I'm not a good enough team to play you, so what the fuck are we doing? Can we just continue?
Speaker 2:Can I give your team one source of credit?
Speaker 1:No, I think your defense will be able to give us a. Let's just continue on. Okay, be for real, nigga.
Speaker 2:I think your defense is good.
Speaker 1:I watched them niggas get burned by some random ass receiver from Boston College 400 yards. Dude, Name their quarterback right now.
Speaker 2:Castellanos, I just played, we just played. I played with Boston College last time. We played college football, so Castellanos Receivers Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I got nothing. I forget, and them niggas ain't that fast.
Speaker 2:None of them had above a 95.
Speaker 1:I had 191. So yes, you can just say yes to the statement. Let's just continue on. I don't want to talk about the fucking game I'm not even going to watch it Okay, it's a waste of my fucking time.
Speaker 2:See, this is what makes me scared Is that you're going to say that and then your team is going to make a close somehow and I'm going to be mad and you're going to be off living your best life I can guarantee.
Speaker 1:In the last 10 years we have not had a close game, so why the fuck am I going to waste the time With a team that is worse than when we had Kenny Walker Back in 2021?
Speaker 2:I get your reasoning, I do.
Speaker 1:I do understand no, you don't, because you're a crazy person and you will have to watch every ohio state game yes, that is I'm realism.
Speaker 2:I am realistic yeah, but I I have that same feeling when it comes to pittsburgh games.
Speaker 1:I am realistic and I know I'm not going to win this game yeah, but I have that same feeling. You're three, no.
Speaker 2:You're three, no this year, but I've had years in past where I'm like we're about to lose this game, but I guess I'm going to watch it anyway. You're three and up.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:So the past doesn't matter Also aren't you an above 500 team? Yes, but we still get embarrassed all the time.
Speaker 1:So shut the fuck up and let's continue on.
Speaker 2:Last college football game. I want to talk about Illinois at Penn State. Illinois at Penn State. I think Penn State's a 19.5 point favorite. I think Illinois the team that went to Nebraska last week and managed to upset them I think if their quarterback can keep playing mistake-free football when it comes to not turning the football over, I think Illinois can play Penn State tough, because I think Penn State likes to run the football and I think Illinois has the athletes in the secondary to stop Penn State from being able to get like the. The big chunk plays um, that Penn State man has managed to get more of this season in comparison to years past. So I think Illinois could make this very difficult on Penn State. Would I pick Illinois to win this game? I don't think so because very difficult on Penn State. Would I pick Illinois to win this game? I don't think so Because I just think Penn State has a little bit more of an elite athlete level that Illinois doesn't have. But I do think if Penn State does not come out and play their A game, illinois could come and upset the apple cart and really take over this game, make it very difficult, if not outright, win this game. So again, 19.5 points makes you think that Illinois is not much of a problem, but I do think Illinois can make this very close. All right. So off of that NFL, we're all over that.
Speaker 2:So let's start with the Thursday night football recap. Dallas won the game 20-15. Honestly, it was a winnable game for the Giants. If Daniel Jones hits either, he has has two wide open plays down the field one to Malik neighbors, where if he would have hit him it would have been a touchdown. And then he also had another play. To who was he? It was a wide receiver. That was Darius Slayton. If Darius Slayton, he had one-on-one down the field like all he had to do was hit him in stride and a little bit of touchdown. But he under threw that. So there was two big plays that he could have had that probably, if he would just had one of them, it would have put this game out of reach for Dallas to kind of come back and win.
Speaker 2:But the fact that Daniel Jones, the guy we say we can't trust him, which is what, why we picked Dallas in the first place was because I do think we both believe that Dallas is not really all that great of a football team and I think we both kind of came to a conclusion that the problem is is that if we pick the Giants, we have to rely on Daniel Jones to win you a football game. And the problem is is that Daniel Jones has shown himself not to be that dude. And as great as Daniel Jonesones played last night, he didn't play all that terribly outside of those two bit really bad misses 29 to 40, 281 and a pick. Again, he should have had two touchdowns in this game, which he didn't have because he was messing up, throwing the football down the field like the giants had an opportunity to win this game because dallas isn't all that good. Dac prescott 22 of 27, two touchdowns, zero.
Speaker 2:Honestly, this game was a CeeDee Lamb-centric game, because outside of CeeDee Lamb it's not like they had a lot when it comes to productivity offensively.
Speaker 2:I just think, even though Dallas won this game, I think it makes you feel even worse, because usually this is a game where Dallas comes out and they like to take care of the teams that are not good at football, but they weren't able to do that on Thursday night and I think that is what the troubling thing is, because it's one thing when Dallas plays a team of like talent or better than them, because that's when they'd like to not play well, but it's usually when the teams that are that are overmatched when they have to face them is when their defense comes out and plays well.
Speaker 2:Micah Parsons comes out and make plays and that's when, like, they're able to kind of pour it on a team and kind of makes everybody think, oh, dallas could be dangerous. But they weren't able to do that on Thursday night. And I think that's a troubling, a troubling move and, I'm sorry, a troubling thing to see. And I think, even though they won this game, I think they do have to pay a price, because in this game they lost Micah Parsons with a high ankle sprain and they lost Demarcus Lawrence with a midfoot sprain and they're probably going to. So Demarcus Lawrence has already been ruled out for the next two or three weeks with his sprain and they're already saying that Micah Parsons with his high ankle sprain is probably going to miss next week as well. And guess who they play next week? They have to go to Pittsburgh, and again, this helps me as a Pittsburgh fan, because it's not like I was really worried about those two defensive ends in the first place.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:But again, without them they're even worse because defensively they don't really have a lot of dudes that you really have to worry about outside of Diggs at corner. That's pretty much it. So outside of that, that, I do think this really does. Even though they got this, this win, I think they might pay with their next teams. They have to play for the next few weeks without those guys on their defensive line, because those are the two prize pieces that they have um and giants. It's just gross. Malik Nabors is awesome though. He had 12 receptions, 115 yards. He's very explosive and it just sucks. He has to play with Daniel Jones all this year until they get him a new quarterback that might be able to take advantage of his talents more. But I think it is a testament to how great Nabors is. Is that you could tell this offense is really Nabors-based? They're trying to get Malik neighbors the ball a lot. He I think he had like 15 targets, so like he really is the main guy this offense which is going to suck because he's concussed.
Speaker 2:Is he concussed? Yeah, I didn't see. I didn't see that part.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, I saw the hit. I saw the hit. Potentially yeah, but I think the problem is this year, while they're trying to win games you got he got concussed. Is he going to be able to take handle the injury bug that potentially might come with it because of how much they use him? But that's honestly the thing we'll see longterm. But again, I think the only reason Daniel Jones looks even okay at points because he has a guy as great as Malik neighbors as a wide receiver to throw to a lot Like when he had Saquon Barkley being a guy that he can hand the ball off to and throw to. That makes the team at least look a little better, and that's how he got his $40 million a year in the first place.
Speaker 2:All right, we're done with that Thursday night football game. Let's go ahead and get to the rest of the games. Oh, that's the part I messed up on. I didn't have the rest of the games written down. It's good, I'll just write them down as we go. Okay, we'll get to the rest of the game too, or make our picks. If we have anything actually we want to talk about, we'll go ahead and go with it. The first game we got on Sunday is going to be New Orleans at Atlanta. I think New Orleans is going to be potentially without Chris Olave with his he had he has a hamstring injury, I believe. Let me make sure I have that right. Yeah, chris Olave is questionable. Alva Kamara is questionable. I think they have a couple of their centers going to potentially going to is going to be out for this game. The Falcons they're not really missing anybody of note and they're going this is going to Atlanta, so what you got Seattle Atlanta, new Orleans at Atlanta.
Speaker 2:Oh gross, it is a close, gross game. I'll be Atlanta to Atlanta. Um, I think I agree with you. Oh oh, by the way, our records. I made sure I wrote that down Before we go too much farther. Our total records right now is Dang, I had it.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, I lost it. Oh, last week we did terrible seven and nine I went and then jace went six and ten last week. Um, for a total I am 29 and 19, jace is 23 and 25, and then we both got the dallas game right. So that's our record as of right now. Hopefully we'll have a better week net this week. Um, jace picked atl, I I'm going Atlanta as well. I think New Orleans potentially not having Crystal Lobby is going to be a big deal.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:And I think ATL. They've been playing better and better every week and I just think they're going to have a little bit too much for Atlanta for the Saints to be able to take care of defensively. And I think the Falcons defense has been playing better and better every week. So I do think they're going to be able to stop even if Alvin Kumar does play, they're going to be able to limit him from being able to get too many explosive plays which will make put the game all into Derek Carr, and we've all seen what happens when Derek Carr is being relied on too much. He likes to make mistakes as well and not play well. Next game, uh, la Rams at the Chicago Bears. See, I think the Bears defense is good. Their offense is wishy-washy at best. I think Caleb Williams he played well last week in a loss, but do I think he can play well enough to out-duel Matt Stafford?
Speaker 1:No, I'm picking the Rams. I genuinely don't think he can. I think Matt Stafford is truly that good. As long as they have Kyron Williams and as long as they don't really have anybody else, as long as McVay can scheme an offense, and McVay can scheme an offense, they'll be fine.
Speaker 2:I just don't think Chicago's going to be able to take care of that offense. And then, as much as I think Caleb Williams will be able to get some of the stats this game, I just don't think they're going to be able to. Even if they do end up putting the Rams in a bad spot, I don't think they're going to be able to close the door on this LA Rams team. If you give the ball back to LA with a chance to win, the Rams will get it done with Matt Stafford at the helm.
Speaker 2:They will close.
Speaker 1:Vikings at. Packers, I gotta go to the Vikings.
Speaker 2:You're going Vikings.
Speaker 1:We haven't picked them at all in the last three weeks and they keep biting us in the butt. They keep biting us in the butt, so I gotta go Vikings.
Speaker 2:But Green Bay has played so well behind Malik Willis. Apparently they might be able to get Jordan Love in this game. He's questionable.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm going to rock with the Vikings on this one. I feel like I have to. We have not picked them at all. We haven't. Sam Donald's that guy.
Speaker 2:This is at the Packers.
Speaker 1:Speaking of which should I start? Sam Donald over Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2:No, they play the Panthers this week, right, mm-hmm. Oh yes, keep Joe Burrow out there, stop playing.
Speaker 1:You say that, but this is the kind of game like the last couple of games where we've shit the bed against teams. We were far better than we did it against New England.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but New England has a good defense though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not that good.
Speaker 2:Better than the Panthers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but again not that good. They're in the league right now. So were the commanders, so were the chiefs, you know, and that boy, sam Darnold.
Speaker 2:He's been lighting it up. No, no, no question he's been lighting it up, and that Packers defense isn't all that great, oh dang. Now that I think about it, yeah, I'm going to go Minnesota as well.
Speaker 1:That Packers defense is bad. That's what I'm saying. That Packers defense isn't good. That's what I'm saying. Jay Jettis is going to get his Shout out to Sam Donald.
Speaker 2:I think, as well as the Packers, I've looked with Malik Wills to the helm, something I never thought I'd ever say with real words.
Speaker 1:Again, that's offensively, but then defensively, they have Jair Alexander and Jair Alexander. That's it.
Speaker 2:And I think Minnesota defensively is pretty good. I think they're solid.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're good.
Speaker 2:I think they're solid. Yeah, they're nothing close to dominant, but I think they're very good. They're a solid ran defense Right.
Speaker 1:There's no stars in that defense but, they're solid, so dang, or that boy, sam Darnold.
Speaker 2:Man, it's very hard for me to put Sam Darnold over Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1:With the stat line of 14, 19, 23.
Speaker 2:And shyesties of. He had a good week last week, 8, 17, and 25. I just think he has Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins back and Ivosivas is like playing very well Iliasovas.
Speaker 1:You have never said his name, right? I know I keep saying Yoshivas Iliasovas.
Speaker 2:Yoshivas Iliasovas my apologies, he's playing well too Again. I gotovas my apologies, he's playing well too Again. I got you yelling at me, but he's playing well.
Speaker 1:Playing well is an overstatement. I'd say he's probably one of the best red zone threats in the NFL right now.
Speaker 2:I'd say it's an understatement.
Speaker 1:Overstatement, overstatement, overstatement Anywhere that's in between the 30 and 30, he's ass. The 30 and 30, he's ass. But if we're within the red zone and the 20, he's the best receiver on the planet. He's so good in the red zone that we might have to we threw a fucking fade. When's the last time you saw somebody throw a fucking fade ball and it successively worked? Fucking Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen other people with fade balls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but efficiently. We did that shit twice and he just goes up there and gets it. He's ass everywhere else. I've been thinking about picking him up, so Sam Darnold or Joe Shiesty.
Speaker 2:I, after talking this all out, I'd go, sam Darnold.
Speaker 1:But I feel nervous about it, though he is truly playing the 25th defense, so like I don't know. And then I feel like I should bench Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2:For who and who do they play this week?
Speaker 1:They play the Chargers.
Speaker 2:I don't know. The Chargers defense is okay, but they're really not all that great. No, he's in my flex.
Speaker 1:So I have, like Tajay Spears, who did really well last week and he did good last week, but I'm expecting him to run the ball more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because of how bad.
Speaker 1:Will Levis has been. I have Alec Pierce. They're playing the Steelers, so I don't expect him to do shit. I have Isaiah Likely, and that's it.
Speaker 2:Tankdale's out. Isaiah Likely wouldn't be bad.
Speaker 1:And he got 1.1 points last week. Oof, and there's no backs or running running back.
Speaker 2:there's Cordell Patterson he's always a good he's always good, but it's just how many carries he's gonna get.
Speaker 1:How many carries he's gonna get. There's Miles Sanders, they may try to run the ball fuck tonight oh, actually, actually. But Chuba Hubbard's gonna be the pruner back.
Speaker 2:I dropped him and I shouldn't have and so Miles picked him up, dang dropped him and I shouldn't have.
Speaker 1:And so Miles picked him up, Dang. I was like, oh, Panther, players have been assed. And then suddenly last week he's like oh 28. Yeah, what am I doing?
Speaker 2:Miles Sanders might be a good option.
Speaker 1:Because at least they use him.
Speaker 2:For the Bengals right, bengals. Yeah, actually, he's been used a lot as well and I feel like they were trying to run the football last week like effect. They were trying to do it effectively and I don't think that Panthers defense is really good enough to really stop them. If they really want to like stick to the run, that ain't bad. I like that and actually I do like Chase Brown. I'll either go Chase Brown or um Sanders.
Speaker 1:I like either one of those um, I like either one of those.
Speaker 2:See, that's the part. I know that he had that first week explosion.
Speaker 1:Then he's been trash ever since, and then I've got to replace Michael Pittman. He has been ass.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing is, when you have a quarterback, that is, a 50% completion percentage guy and all he does the only thing he seems to be able to do well is throw the ball deep, I know, but I also have the problem that's not Pittman's game. He's not a big play receiver. He's more of a mid-range to close-range receiver where he's elite as a route runner, he range receiver where he's like elite as a route runner.
Speaker 1:He's a big body. Him and Terry McLaurin are the same, very similar.
Speaker 2:At least Terry McLaurin can get away from somebody if you give him one-on-one coverage. I know.
Speaker 1:I watched Dax Hill fucking bite in a fucking. It wasn't even like a good comeback.
Speaker 2:Oh, I gotta get your feelings on that because I talked about it by myself last week. Any lingering thoughts from that game last week?
Speaker 1:and how frustrating it was. Dj Traynor was hurt.
Speaker 2:That makes sense.
Speaker 1:He had a high ankle sprain and he had to get it earlier in the game.
Speaker 2:Okay, does that make sense? Why he wasn't on it.
Speaker 1:That's why Dax Hill was out there covering Terry a lot, but they had safety help over the top. Von Bell got hurt so our backup safety was in there. The motherfucker got flagged last week so they're keeping him in the box and the strong safety, the free safety, just glides over towards Brian Thomas Jr Because you know running backs out there we're blitzing because we're doing better at blitzing, so the running back's out there.
Speaker 1:So the free safety goes to get him. And, oh shit, suddenly Dax Hills won a one-on-one with Terry McLaren and this motherfucker does the ugliest comeback ever. It wasn't even a good, it wasn't even like a good dig, it was a bad one. That was probably one of the worst shots I've ever seen him run. And you know what Dax Hill does Bytes on it like a motherfucker.
Speaker 2:And you know what's funny is, I think, trying to do that because he knew it was going to be hot. For why am I forgetting the quarterback's name?
Speaker 1:Jayden Daniels. Jayden Daniels in the backfield because, honestly, you guys were blitzing.
Speaker 2:He had to get that ball off and he knew he was about to take a hit, which is why I think that day wasn't as great and he was just trying to take the end of the field, I know, but I think when he did that, I think he he saw Dax Hill bite on it and he just turned and ran right past him.
Speaker 2:Dude, it was fucking gross, dax Hill's ass and some people like to like we're trying to put that on Joe Burrow. The fact that dude Joe Burrow had over 300 yards and three touchdowns, that is not on Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody blamed him for that game and I'm looking back like yo, he's played two weeks back-to-back where he's played fucking amazing.
Speaker 2:It's not. He can't play offense and defense. He's not Travis Hunter Like honest to God, joe Burrow.
Speaker 1:He outplayed Mahomes last week and no one wants to talk about that. Mahomes played like shit. It's just our defense played worse. Right, that was the only problem Like our defense was ass. And this week our Daniels is a fucking like. No one knows how to fucking contain him because he's like oh damn, you're blitzing me. I'm going to run out the pocket, but not run.
Speaker 1:I'm running to pass, I'm going to sling this motherfucker, yeah, and everybody's first thought would be he's about to go, which is what Logan Wilson, Logan Wilson, Joseph Osai is, who kept fucking getting a bite on him. Yep, he just come forward and he'd just stop and fucking. He had Osai on all fours. It was God, it was bad that, and we just don't have any defensive linemen man. All your defensive linemen are hurt. All of them are hurt except for Henderson and everybody's like let's just go double his ass and I think it makes.
Speaker 2:With all of that, with all those injuries in the front seven, it makes it worse in your back seven, because now you don't have the same type of pressure you usually can get in the front. So now you have to guard for longer. And with that being the, I'm not sitting here trying to make a case for why Daxale played terribly, because he did. Yes, he played very bad, but like again, it doesn't help. The rest of your defense I agree, but I don't.
Speaker 1:Daxale has not played that bad over the last couple of weeks. He's actually made a couple good plays.
Speaker 2:I just think he was in the wrong spot at the wrong time. He should never be one-on-one against anybody of Terry McLaurin's caliber. He just never, never ever.
Speaker 1:You should have brought Cam Tiller-Britt over. I understand.
Speaker 2:Cam Tiller-Britt, his biggest deficiency, I think he likes to stick to one side. Right, he sticks to one side.
Speaker 1:No, lou and Aruma, don't move him around. Oh, they. Just Last year, when we played Seattle, he fucking followed DK Metcalf around and you could see Luan Arumo oh, you could see it on his face. He's not supposed to fucking do that. There was one play where DK goes the other side. He throws up his arms like what are you doing? And fucking runs over there and sends DJ Turner away to go to the other side. Camila Britt is that guy he is going to cover. He wants to cover an up-and-over receiver. But, luna Romero, don't switch him.
Speaker 2:He talks like he does too, who?
Speaker 1:runs that, cleveland runs that defense. Will they keep Denzel Ward on one side the whole game?
Speaker 2:No, they let Denzel. No they don't?
Speaker 1:They've been doing it all year. That's why they've been getting burnt in the backfield. They leave Denzel Ward on one side to have Greg Newsome do whatever else on the other side.
Speaker 2:They do, but if it gets bad enough, they do let Denzel. No, they don't, no, they fucking don't.
Speaker 1:Okay, so in the first half, how many Browns games did you watch this year?
Speaker 2:I have watched exactly one.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have watched exactly three, because they're my division rival and I can guarantee you he is on that left side because they don't throw to that left side. That is the only place he has been all year. And they leave Greg Newsome on the other side by alone and he keeps getting fucking burnt because Newsome's not fast.
Speaker 2:Okay, I thought there has been moments where they have let him follow the best receiver because they're getting burned, so they let him go and follow, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Denzel Ward has had to follow on his own. He's breaking the play to go follow Because they did it with Dallas. Ceedee Lamb was fucking killing their ass and Denzel Ward had to start following him around Because it was that fucking bad. And Louie Romero has the same kind of fucking defense where he wants everybody to stay in their spot. It don't fucking work if the guy is truly too fast for Cam Taylor Britt. I don't think Terry is. I don't think he's that much faster than Cam Taylor Britt.
Speaker 2:I think actually he could be. I think he's faster, but I don't think it's necessarily a huge it's not huge and I don't think he's going to bite on the double move like Dax Hill did.
Speaker 1:He won't bite on the double move. Dax Hill, don't fucking play DB. He's a safety.
Speaker 2:He's just a shitty safety, and if he does play any type of corner, it's slot.
Speaker 1:It is slot. He's facing a tight end. Half the time he's not even on the field because Mike Hilton does that shit and he does way fucking better it. I don't understand why we would ever think it was a good idea to put him over there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just not a good idea, and the idea that that's Joe Burrow's fault is definitely not the case.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow played too well, that's insane.
Speaker 2:We should never be in a spot where a guy throws for 300 yards and three touchdowns and it should never be the quarterback's fault that you don't win a football game. Usually if you have a quarterback that's known for that much and getting that many touchdowns, then some and you lose, then there's something wrong with the defensive side of the ball because the other team is getting more and again I get. There's some moments where you make that one bad mistake. But joe burton didn't even throw any interceptions in that game. Like he played a very good football game against washington and they were efficient. They got down the field and scored, but like it just wasn't enough because their defense was giving up a lot. They were bleeding, they were hemorrhaging over there on the defense side of the ball. They were hemorrhaging.
Speaker 1:That's not Joe Burrow's fault. It's not. I think he played a good game he did and he continued.
Speaker 2:He's been playing good games. It's just that defense hasn't been playing well and they have to overcome that and that's the part that's hard. I mean sorry, pittsburgh going to Indianapolis, getting to the next game here, go ahead and keep making picks, pittsburgh, yes, obviously I'm taking them. That's not much of an issue. I just think with oh, I'm about Richardson playing, he's like literally throwing right under, right under 50%. He's so up and down he can hit a deep ball and then he can't do anything easy.
Speaker 2:I just think Pittsburgh is going to keep them from being able to get the big plays on the field. And again, as much as rich. I do believe that Richard is going to be harder to bring down because of the body type he is, and then he's as fast as he is. I think Pittsburgh has enough to get after him and make it hard and they're not going to give up the big play that it seems like Indianapolis needs so much and when they're not looking for the big play when it comes to passing the ball they're giving it to the running back.
Speaker 2:Jonathan Taylor, jonathan Taylor, and honestly, pittsburgh hasn't let anybody really run on them wild. So I think this Pittsburgh defense is going to be able to control this game and I think that Justin Fields, with now his fourth opportunity to show that he's the starting quarterback for the Spitsburg Steelers team, is going to keep the ball clean. They don't have to be doing any weather because they're indoors in Indianapolis, so it's not like you have to deal with that. So he's going to keep playing clean football, making the plays when necessary, making the plays when necessary, getting us first down to the legs, getting the ball to George Pickens down the field. I feel like they're just going to keep opening up the offense week by week, and as long as he keeps not messing up, the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to keep winning games, especially against a team like this.
Speaker 2:Again, it'll be harder in the second half of the year, but in this first half there's plenty of winnable games and I think today and Sunday will be another one of those Denver going to the New York Giants, denver coming off the big win against Tampa Bay last week, and you have the Jets coming off of their big win against the Patriots the Jets having a little bit more rest, though, because their game last week was the Thursday night game, so they get a little mini-bye there. Who you got. You think Bo Nix has a good start and he's going to play well against this Jets defense. Or do you think Aaron Rodgers is going to be able to get the ball to Garrett Wilson and old Brees Hall there and win this game? That Denver defense isn't all that great.
Speaker 1:No, it's kind of just Patrick Sertain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then everybody else.
Speaker 1:They kind of let everybody else go yeah, so I'd go Jets here.
Speaker 2:I, everybody else go, yeah, so I'd go jets here. I'm probably going jets as well. I just don't think just patrick, just patrick, certain is not going to be enough to stop the jets from doing what they want to do. Because, aaron rogers, they just know how to get, get, move garrett wilson around, um to get him the ball when they need to. And I just think that jets defense is going to be able to um, going to be able to contain that denver offense, especially led by bo nicks. Who who doesn't like really throwing the football down the field? And if they don't, the Jets defense doesn't have to worry about getting the ball thrown over their head. I do think they're going to be able to stop the nickel and diming down the field from that Denver offense.
Speaker 2:Next game Philadelphia going to Tampa Bay. Philly coming off the big win last week against New Orleans, tampa Bay coming off a bad loss to the Denver Broncos last week, like I already mentioned. Does Philly have AJ Brown back? That's my question, because I do think that they're going to be without Devontae Smith because he's hurt. Right, he's out because of the concussion that he got in the game last week. Aj Brown's questionable, ooh, but the thing is they still have Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1:That's not enough. What was the other team?
Speaker 2:Tampa Bay and Baker. We trust I'm going Philly. Yeah, I think Tampa Bay had a bad week last week, but I just think Philly with Saquon Barkley, I'm hoping that. Oh see the fact they don't get I'm not sure if they're going to get AJ Brown back. If they don't have either one of their best wide receivers, I think that offense is going to be much easier to stop. I'm going to go Tampa Bay. Talk myself into it as soon as I started going with Philly.
Speaker 1:I think their defense is Swiss cheese.
Speaker 2:Their defense is not great. Yeah, you're not wrong. And if they're not going to be able to get after Baker, I do think he can sit back there and kind of make some big plays down the field, mike Evans, and get it to Chris Godwin as well. So they do have some guys that can get the football out of the backfield. And Bucky Irving he's been running the football very well for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers team, getting some tough yards for them. So, yeah, I'm going Tampa Bay because without both of their best pass catchers it's going to be very hard for the Eagles to kind of do what they want to do offensively. Even with Saquon Barkley playing as well as he did, as well as he has been, I just think it's going to be a little bit too much for them to overcome, especially in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:Next game we got Cincinnati going to Carolina. I'm going Cincinnati. I just think 0-3. Cincinnati truly needs this game. They can't go 0-4. 0-3 is one thing, 0-4 is a different beast. They need this game a lot. I think Carolina as much. They're not gonna be able to sneak up on the Cincinnati team. Obviously, cincinnati knows the Red Rifles, so I have a feeling they weren't going to underestimate him coming into this game no matter what, but I do think that, coming off the game last week where Andy Dalton played so well for this Carolina Panthers team and he really awoke in that offense to be able to do some a a lot more explosive plays, I just think the Bengals are going to be able to get after him a little bit. He's a statue back there, it's not like he's running around at all. Um, they're going to be able to play some good defense, not not great defense, but good enough to keep the Panthers from getting into the end zone.
Speaker 2:Uh, and I think, the Bengals are going to win this game and I, think, joe burrow is gonna be able to slice up that panthers defense. Uh, so there you go. Uh, joe burrow and bangles. Next game jacksonville jaguars going to houston. He used to coming off the bad loss they had last week to minnesota. Um, jaguars, oh and three looking terrible at pretty much everything. Their defense is awful. Travel lawrence isn't playing well. He looks like he doesn't even care about football at this point. I think Houston coming into this game bad attitude. They're at home. I think CJ Stroud is going to slice up that Jacksonville defense and I just think Jacksonville offensively is just not good enough, especially with Houston. Their defense is pretty good and I just don't think Jacksonville is anything close to what Minnesota has, which is why they were able to slice up Houston the way they were. So I'm going Houston NCJ. I trust he has my faith always.
Speaker 1:Houston, yeah, jacksonville just hasn't been playing well. And you're right, trevor Lawrence, I've always said this.
Speaker 2:He just kind of never looks like he wants to play football.
Speaker 2:He doesn't care man. I'm like maybe it's just that too cool attitude, but it's just like at this point he's been through so much and he's getting paid and it's like at some point you have to show that, like this, losing is unacceptable. And that's nothing that I've ever seen coming out of Trevor Lawrence at least I've heard him say it, but do I believe it? I don't believe it, but I've heard him say it. It's just one of those things you have to feel it and I just, when it comes to Trevor Lawrence, I wouldn't follow him. I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't get how that team around him looks at him and says I'm willing to follow you in any war or any war. Right, because when you see guys like Joe Burrow, patch Mahomes, like even if they're not the most like talkative types, you could just their teammates come out and say, hey, I'm willing to go to war with that dude because I just know he's willing to give up everything to go win a football game. I just don't think Trevor Lawrence puts out that same type of feeling and, uh, that's just. I think that team kind of follows that and they're just like you know, they just have a bunch of players that don't care, like they probably should. Commanders going to Arizonarizona. Commanders coming off the big win against cincinnati, arizona, coming off their one and two now, but I feel like they should be two and one at this point. But you know, do the commanders have anybody that can stop marvin harrison jr from doing what he wants to do?
Speaker 2:no, can they get after kyler murray no he's gonna be running around like an rc car out.
Speaker 1:I think these teams are built very similar.
Speaker 2:I do as well, and I think the problem is with the Commanders. Even though they have this nice quarterback and they played well last week, can this coaching staff instill like, hey, we have to keep stacking weeks? Just because you had a good game last week doesn't mean that gets your race. You have a new game you have to play and you have to play well this game as well. And I just think playing against this Cardinals offense is going to be difficult. You're at Arizona. It's not necessarily like the biggest home field advantage ever, but I just do think Arizona might be able to do just enough to win this game.
Speaker 2:New England going to San Fran, san Fran being one and two, I feel like San Fran is going to have a bad attitude. Even though they're missing a few of their players, I do think they're going to be able to scheme up enough offensively with Mason, with Purdy and with Jennings in order to keep the Patriots from at least be able to score enough points, because this Patriots offense is honestly not all that good, and I do think the Niners defense is going to be able to hold New England from being able to do what they want to do. So I'm going to go San Fran, even without all of their best players. I just think they're just going to be well-coached enough to be able to win this game against a Patriots team that is underhanded, talent-wise, honestly against game against a Patriots team that is underhanded, talent-wise, honestly, against most of the teams they play, especially San Francisco. You're going San Fran as well.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Next game we got is Cleveland going to Las Vegas. Las Vegas has a lot of people out. Let me go ahead and give you those, because it's a big deal. Um, so, michael Mayer's out. They're starting tackle. Thayer Munford is out. He's a buck guy. Gotta mention that. Um, you also got hold on let me I don't know why it has to go to a whole list. Okay, you got Mayer's out. Devontae Adams is out. They're going to be without Max Crosby. Yeah, pretty much a good portion of their best players are going to be out in this game and they're going to be facing a Cleveland Browns team that you know hasn't been all that great. They lost I think they lost last week to the Giants, so that's not going to be good. I just think I don't know. The problem is they have to rely on freaking Cleveland.
Speaker 1:They still have a lot of their offensive lines still going to be out. Yeah, but without Max Crosby what does it matter?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Joku's out?
Speaker 1:He's always out, he is always out, so what are you thinking?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't like this game at all. This game is yucky. I know I sound like a child by saying that.
Speaker 2:You're on Cleveland. Yep, I'll make it interesting, I'll go Vegas. Yeah, I honestly don't like this game whatsoever. It's disgusting. Next game we got is going to be oh, by the way, the coach for the Vegas Raiders was talking last week and he was like there's a lot of players that make big business decision last week and we're gonna make sure we make the business decision as well. What are the chances that they start trading away a bunch of pieces on this team?
Speaker 2:I feel like they should have traded Devonta Adams a long time ago, because this is a guy that wants to win football games and like he looks like he's in a different spot. Like this team should be rebuilding right. I feel like they should get started on this rebuild as fast as possible by getting rid of some of their better players and get some getting some draft picks. Because they don't have the quarterback. They're running around with Gardner Minshew as their guy. He's no, he's not going to be their answer longterm. I do feel like they're going to start like players are on. Some of these players are on a different timeframe than what this Raiders team should be at. Some of these players are on a different time frame than what this Raiders team should be at, and I get it. They have some talent on their team. I just feel like some of it just doesn't fit the timeline that they're on. So I do think Devontae Adams, max Crosby I think there's going to be a few players that might be on the trade market before long, to be totally honest with you, but I just had to mention that.
Speaker 2:Chiefs going to the Chargers, um, my problem is is are they gonna have? Does really change? Herbert, is he gonna play? He's not listed as out as of right now. Joey Bosa's out, oh, bosa's out. Colson's out. Rashawn Slater's out. I'm picking Kansas City man. I doubt.
Speaker 1:Herbert plays, so I'm also picking Kansas City.
Speaker 2:I just think there's as much as the Chargers play good football and they like running the football. I just don't think that plays into Kansas City's hands defensively.
Speaker 1:I agree. I think the Chargers are currently just understaffed in offense. Yeah, I just think, even if. Mahomes isn't at his best. When did they wash their hands of Jerry Bosa?
Speaker 2:He's still probably one of their best defensive players.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's never there.
Speaker 2:He was there the first two weeks, just fine.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:Okay, I get it. See, with some players you care about injuries a lot, and then on other players you don't, because I care.
Speaker 1:What players do I not care about injury, go ahead. Yeah, because I talk shit on every player that's always injured.
Speaker 2:You do Okay fine.
Speaker 1:It's just he is always injured and you defend him with your fucking life, because when he's playing.
Speaker 2:He's one of the best players out there.
Speaker 1:And now, how often is he playing? He plays a decent amount.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's part of the league, man.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool. Well, I can find defensive players that play more than that, but for the money.
Speaker 2:I can see why you're making this argument.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I'm saying, and I'm saying you were saying, cut Durbin James at the end of last year, right, because they had to make cuts. And I was looking at you like that's fucking crazy. Joey Bosa won't be playing for half this year. And you're like no, he'll be fine. And I'm like all right, cool, guess who's still on the field, durbin James? Guess who's going to play all 16? All 17?
Speaker 2:Durbin James? No, he's not. He's literally suspended for this game Again, but he's not playing because he's suspended. I know I'm playing.
Speaker 1:Joey Bosa's always hurt. He's getting paid the most money on your defense. He is no longer worth that money. The best ability is availability. He's never available. This is a big game. This is a division game. Yeah, and he's not here for it. He's injured every single year.
Speaker 2:You're not wrong. It was like a hemp injury last week that flared up, which is why he's no longer a helpful piece to them.
Speaker 1:He is a trade piece. Go trade him to a team. He is not helpful, he's only getting older and he has not been good. Go trade him to a team. He is not helpful, he's only getting older and he has not been good. He has not been as good as he was in three years.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's a question of how good, it's, just about how available he's been.
Speaker 1:He has not been as good as he was in three years.
Speaker 2:I don't know how good he is. I don't see him play when I have seen him play, which I do watch him play a lot, and that, no, you don't no one watches him play a lot.
Speaker 1:He's never there to play when he is.
Speaker 2:You just said a bullshit statement no, when he's there to play, I watch him play and he's still one of the better guys out there. But to your to, but to your point, he is not out there a lot, he is injured a lot. I totally agree. But the thing is is that you can't trade him now. He won't have any trade value because he's not healthy.
Speaker 1:I agree, but he's 29 years old and he has not played a full season in God knows how long.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, again, I can try to fight this argument, but you're not wrong. I'm just fighting over the margins here.
Speaker 1:I don't necessarily disagree with the fact that he has been hurt Five and nine for the last two years Five, nine, that he has been hurt Five and nine for the last two years, and the year they paid him was 2021. So they paid him all his money. He did play 16. But since then it's been five, nine and three and we don't know when he's going to be back this season. If he don't make it to 10, he has to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but there's a lot of games between now and then He'll make go yeah, but there's a lot of games between now and then He'll make public.
Speaker 1:I agree, but he may make it back and then get hurt again. He loves to do that.
Speaker 2:Not that he wants to get hurt.
Speaker 1:I know, but it happens to him a lot.
Speaker 2:It does.
Speaker 1:And at 29, you got it. Wash your hands of him. He is taking up a lot of cap space that you can use on other players, that you can use on other players, that you can use on getting more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the thing is that you can trade him or drop him. He still owes so much money. It's a huge cap hit against your team.
Speaker 1:And that's fine. But I'd rather take the cap hit than have to watch him not play. You're not playing and we're paying you. I'd rather watch you not play for somebody else and us pay you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but usually the cap hit is bigger when you drop him or trade him than when you just keep him on your team Again.
Speaker 1:at least when you trade him, you get something from him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but again but keeping him.
Speaker 1:You get nothing. You get nothing. You get a good defensive player for eight games maybe, and then you get nothing.
Speaker 2:But here's my problem is that, the way I see this team right now, do they have higher standards Like, did this Chargers team come into the league the year thinking they?
Speaker 1:were going to make the playoffs. Did you think so? The way I see this team right now, they're wasting a whole fuckton of money on the defense. That ain't that good. Trade Khalil Mack, trade Joey Bosa. Wash our hands free of both of them, because they both aren't very good right now. I can't tell you how good Joey Bosa is, because I haven't seen him play fully in three years.
Speaker 2:You're talking about a full season, but I've seen him play fully. I haven't even seen him play well A partial season in the last three years. Yes, I understand, okay, so they paid him.
Speaker 1:How much money? A fuck ton.
Speaker 2:Yeah, paid him a lot of money.
Speaker 1:He was one of the highest played defensive players. I can pull it up. It's still pulled up here.
Speaker 2:No, at the time. Yes, he had the highest defensive contract out there. Yes, Totally agree. I think he's been passed up by his brother and a few other players since then, but yeah.
Speaker 1:He has been passed up by a full fuck ton of players. We won't even pay Trey Hendrickson, he has more sacks. Even pay Trey Hendrickson, he has more sacks. I just Over the last couple years he only has. He's never been leading in anything in any stat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's been hurt. Yes, Even the years.
Speaker 1:He wasn't hurt, he was still. He was okay. He was good. Not worth the money he was paid, but he was okay. I'm just 16 games, 10 sacks. That was the year he got paid. Let's go check Miles Garrett's. Let's go check TJ Watt's.
Speaker 2:I get that.
Speaker 1:They have top defensive end money, they are available. Even TJ Watt is fucking hurt a shit ton. He's hurt almost as much as Bosa.
Speaker 2:That is not true. That is not true. I was cool with everything you were saying because it was all facts. But TJ Watt is not nearly as hurt as much as Joey Bosa is. That's not even close to the case.
Speaker 1:I'll give you that You're right, but again even in the years where he doesn't play a full season. Okay, so the year he had 10 games played, he had six sacks. To Joey Bosa 16 games played and 10 sacks, meaning if he would have played more games.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying Joey Bosa is as good as TJ Watt. He's not, I know, but they're paying him like like he is.
Speaker 1:He's only getting paid a little less than tj watt yeah, but I think tj watt's getting underpaid right now.
Speaker 2:Basically, in comparison to everybody else in the league he's getting underpaid, but again, that's again. I pittsburgh's cool with that right now because he's not making a fuss about wanting to get paid more money. So we'll take that for right now he's not close to fucking miles garrett no, I again. I totally as much as I I love the bosses. Obviously they're buckeyes and all that, but we, what the point you're making is not invalid.
Speaker 1:So I know, but I made this last year and you had a fucking conniption about it when I said cut bosa.
Speaker 2:You had a conniption about it yeah, but I think it think it was mostly about the fact that he was still he's still something to give the game.
Speaker 1:Does he yes?
Speaker 2:Obviously, yes, he does. Yeah, the bench is real fucking warm. All right, I'm done. I'm done with this game.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry three years and less than 50% games In the last three years. They don't add up to 16 games. You know that right. You know that right. I am very aware. Okay, cool, that's what I'm saying. The only piece they should have kept last year was Derwin James, because he's the only piece that's going to play all the games.
Speaker 2:He's the only piece that ain't hurt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I can make a case that he's less effective than Bosa when they're both on the field.
Speaker 2:But again, what you're saying, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:He at least is on the field. That's the thing I get, what you're saying, and for the money they're paying Derwin James, he's getting half of what Bosa's making. They have a suit. They are basically maxed out. They can't pay nobody else.
Speaker 2:Yes, but they have reworked their contract so much that now they're not.
Speaker 1:The cap hits for getting rid of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they've reworked it multiple times to where they're getting the amount of money they're paying him down.
Speaker 1:But the cap hits are so crazy I think he has one more after this year. Nope 2021 was his first year. This is his last year.
Speaker 2:This would be the third year of his contract, dude. He got paid in 2021. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.
Speaker 1:This is the fourth year of his contract. What the fuck.
Speaker 2:No, so it was a four-year extension, so he has one more year Because he was still on his rookie deal when he got paid.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:They don't rip up the contract, it's just they just add on the years.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:They didn't franchise tag him Right. They paid him with one year left on his rookie deal.
Speaker 1:Okay, I understand what you're saying, but his rookie deal ended in 2020. He started his contract in 2021. Which means it's been four years since then.
Speaker 2:He was drafted in 2018, dude 2018. So the last year of his rookie deal would have been 2022. He got paid with one year left on his rookie deal, and then you add those four years on to the one last year of his rookie deal. It's a five-year deal, good thing.
Speaker 1:he was drafted in 2016. 2016, fuck, nigga yeah fuck you.
Speaker 2:Sorry, it was a five-year deal. Bosa signed a five-year $135 million contract.
Speaker 1:When did that contract start In 2020.
Speaker 2:It's a five-year deal. Heosa signed a five-year $135 million contract. When did that contract start? In 2020. It's a five-year deal. He has one more year in his contract after this year.
Speaker 1:His contract started in 2020? Yes, so this is the fifth year of his contract. No, I'm going to beat you to death. It has been five years since he got paid right, because he started in 16, 17, 18, 19. That's his rookie contract, right there, ain't it Right? That's how math works. Guess how many years it's been since 2020?
Speaker 2:Five nigga. I'm looking at his contract on SpotTrack right now. His contract goes through next year. Oh, this is why we messed up. This is why you're mad. He signed a two-year $40 million contract with the Chargers. That was a renegotiation, With a $7 million signing bonus and a $15 million guaranteed. He signed a two-year deal. That was a restructure before last year.
Speaker 1:That just means the fact. Y'all, stupid ass, can't do fucking math.
Speaker 2:It was still a five-year deal, from 2020 through 2025.
Speaker 1:It would have still ended this year. What year does this end? In 2025.
Speaker 2:The 2025 season. Dude, it doesn't go through the.
Speaker 1:They don't do the years, they do the amount of playing years, his contract still would have ended this year. This is the 5th year of his contract. It would have ended this year. You know, like you understand what I'm saying, right Go to the next game.
Speaker 2:I've been trying to do that forever now. I'm wasting my fucking time. Okay, Next game Buffalo-Baltimore.
Speaker 1:Baltimore.
Speaker 2:I'm going Buffalo. I just think Buffalo has played better football as of right now. I feel like they know what they are as a team as of right now and I think the Baltimore offense is not going to be explosive enough to make Josh Allen have to play differently than what he has played this season, where he has played good, clean football not turn the football over, um, but they're running the football effectively. I don't think Baltimore defensively is going to be able to stop Baltimore from doing I mean sorry, baltimore defensively is going to be able to stop Buffalo from doing what they want to do. And I have to give Buffalo credit. Their defenses played better than I thought they would after they got rid of all those players from their team this past offseason. So I'm going to give Buffalo their credit and say they're probably one of the better teams in the NFL as of right now, based on how they're playing, and I'll take Buffalo to win this game.
Speaker 2:Tennessee going there's two Monday night games this week. If anybody didn't know, um, tennessee goes to miami is the first one. Miami is going to be starting tyler huntley as their starting quarterback going into this game. So no more playing around with uh, I figured they had start for them last week, but no, no, no, we're playing with that. So, so who you got? And then you have, honestly, the mistake-making Will Levis on the Tennessee side trying to give up every game that they possibly play. So the Tennessee defense plays well. I just think I feel like, if they're going to be playing Tyler Huntley, he plays well. So I do think they're going to have some type of juice from playing a better quarterback. So I'm going to take Miami at home, on top of the fact that Will Levis is guaranteed to try to give Miami the game at least once or twice in this game.
Speaker 2:Who are you taking? Jace, tennessee or Miami? I'm going to go Tennessee, tennessee, tennessee, all right, last but not least, we got Seattle going to Detroit. This is a tough game, michael. Why do you Detroit playing at home? You have Seattle playing undefeated football as of right now they have not been beat as of yet.
Speaker 2:Detroit, coming off of their big win last week where they decided, hey, we really can run the football effectively, let's just do that. I think Seattle, coming off of their big win last week where they decided, hey, we really can run the football effectively, let's just do that. I think Seattle, defensively, their strength is in their secondary. Their defensive line isn't necessarily as big of a strength for them. I think there's two options here. If Detroit decides to play football how they're best able to and they run the football effectively, play with some balance, do the play-action pass with Jared Goff, I do feel like Detroit could win this game. But if they go and try to throw the ball 50-something times in this game against Seattle, it's not going to work. So again, this is kind of weird to kind of think about which Detroit Lions offense is going to show up.
Speaker 2:The Detroit Lions defense is better this year. Hutchinson is playing some good football. He's like one of the sack leaders as of right now, through the first three weeks of the year. But I just think their secondary still isn't all that great. I think they have a couple injuries back there as well. I just think Seattle, offensively, geno Smith is playing some good football. So if they can keep Geno Smith clean back there, I do feel like they can probably make some plays offensively and keep this game close and play and potentially win this game. Who are you taking, detroit or Seattle?
Speaker 1:Seattle.
Speaker 2:I think I'm only picking Detroit because they're at home. If this was in Seattle, I would definitely pick Seattle. I just think Detroit maybe kind of figured out like, hey, this is the way we have to play to win football games. So I'll believe in Detroit figuring out what they have to do to win football games right now and I'll go with Detroit.
Speaker 2:So, that is it for all the NFL games. We've made our picks there. We've already talked about all the college football games we have. Actually, they're playing college football as of right now. I don't see any big oh, byu is beating Baylor, but I'm not seeing any big scores, any big games going on right now that I have to say anything about right now. So most of the games that are good are going to be mostly tonight anyway, 3, 30 and later.
Speaker 2:So, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and end this podcast. We've been doing this long enough. Jason's kind of tired of me, so let's not drag this on too much more. So if you've been listening to the podcast for a while, we appreciate you.
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