Nobody’s Talking Podcast

From High School Hoops to Lifelong Friendships in Akron Featuring Jed Ray Dunn

May 27, 2024 Bosco Pearson, Joe Pogue, Shyrod Long & Steve McBride Episode 187
From High School Hoops to Lifelong Friendships in Akron Featuring Jed Ray Dunn
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From High School Hoops to Lifelong Friendships in Akron Featuring Jed Ray Dunn
May 27, 2024 Episode 187
Bosco Pearson, Joe Pogue, Shyrod Long & Steve McBride

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Ever found yourself reminiscing  about the basketball courts of your youth, or the hometown heroes that walked the halls of your high school? We sure did, as we took a trip back to Akron's streets, where legends and lifelong friends were made. Join our laughter-filled journey through the 330, where we share not only the lighter side of clinging to our high school physiques but also the serious evolution of basketball skills and the life lessons that come with every bounce of the ball.

This episode isn't just a love letter to our roots; it's a heartfelt discussion about the essence of coaching, the debate over the greatest of all time in basketball, and the undeniable impact of sports on community and character. From the wisdom of a veteran on respect and the National Anthem to the candid tales of parental involvement in youth sports, we unpack it all. As we reminisce about street basketball's raw energy and our plans to conquer the pickleball courts, it's clear that whether you're talking about Michael Jordan or LeBron James, Akron has a way of shaping stories worth telling.

We cap off our conversation with a tribute to the ties that bind – the friendships that have stood the test of time and the shared experiences that keep us coming back for more. From the heartfelt to the humorous, we cover the gamut, including the occasional run-in with the Akron police and the power of a well-timed joke. Whether it's debating the best tea remedy for those early mornings or planning our next reunion, this episode is a reminder of why community and sports go hand in hand. So, sit back and let the sounds of old friends and the spirit of the game carry you back to where it all began.

Thanks for listening to the Nobody's Talking Podcast. Follow us on Twitter: (nobodystalking1), Instagram : (nobodystalkingpodcast) and email us at (nobodystalkingpodcast@gmail.com) Thank you!

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Ever found yourself reminiscing  about the basketball courts of your youth, or the hometown heroes that walked the halls of your high school? We sure did, as we took a trip back to Akron's streets, where legends and lifelong friends were made. Join our laughter-filled journey through the 330, where we share not only the lighter side of clinging to our high school physiques but also the serious evolution of basketball skills and the life lessons that come with every bounce of the ball.

This episode isn't just a love letter to our roots; it's a heartfelt discussion about the essence of coaching, the debate over the greatest of all time in basketball, and the undeniable impact of sports on community and character. From the wisdom of a veteran on respect and the National Anthem to the candid tales of parental involvement in youth sports, we unpack it all. As we reminisce about street basketball's raw energy and our plans to conquer the pickleball courts, it's clear that whether you're talking about Michael Jordan or LeBron James, Akron has a way of shaping stories worth telling.

We cap off our conversation with a tribute to the ties that bind – the friendships that have stood the test of time and the shared experiences that keep us coming back for more. From the heartfelt to the humorous, we cover the gamut, including the occasional run-in with the Akron police and the power of a well-timed joke. Whether it's debating the best tea remedy for those early mornings or planning our next reunion, this episode is a reminder of why community and sports go hand in hand. So, sit back and let the sounds of old friends and the spirit of the game carry you back to where it all began.

Thanks for listening to the Nobody's Talking Podcast. Follow us on Twitter: (nobodystalking1), Instagram : (nobodystalkingpodcast) and email us at (nobodystalkingpodcast@gmail.com) Thank you!

Speaker 1:

Yeah, hey, we got somebody from Akron. Hold up, everybody can hear you can hear you. Good 330. Yeah, akron's in the house.

Speaker 3:

You good, all right 3-3-0.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Akron's in the house. It's about to be fun right here. That's the area code 3-3-0. Oh, you know the area code. You know we reps. I didn't know that I'm not from Akron. All good things come from Akron Ohio. All good things. All good things come from Akron Ohio. All good things Me. Chris LeBron, Jerome Lane, Howard Hewitt, James Ingram I'm going to save him for last. Okay, Jeff Brantley, Football and basketball Snake. Who else we got? Kareem Galvin, Thomas Lewis.

Speaker 2:

Jeff Grubbs.

Speaker 3:

Joel Slater.

Speaker 2:

What was Willie's last name? Willie?

Speaker 1:

Fulton LeSean.

Speaker 4:

Lewis, leroy Lewis. I got some pretty women coming out of that.

Speaker 1:

Leon Jones, eric Bryant, shout out to EB that long shot he hit, we ain't gonna talk about that. And we got him. It took. Db that long shot he hit, we ain't going to talk about that, right, and we got him, it took. I'm going to act like it was hard to get him because we've been chasing him around for like the last four or five weeks.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't let you pay him to get up here.

Speaker 1:

Hey, don't worry about our NIL deal, Yours truly duh. I was about to say 2014.

Speaker 4:

We got to do the introduction, you come around.

Speaker 1:

Wait, hold on. So you want us to introduce ourselves? All right, what we do. Okay, this is Bosco Pearson, that's right, I'm from Akron.

Speaker 4:

Tall, dark and handsome.

Speaker 1:

Love it Like the Serp. Hey, 6'3", 185, at 51 years old I still got my college body. Now y'all tell me y'all still do.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I don't have my college body.

Speaker 4:

Damn it. I got my high school body, baby. That's right, I still got it.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, send to my left.

Speaker 2:

You know who it is. It ain't Silky, no more, it's Shiraz.

Speaker 1:

You ain't Silky.

Speaker 2:

I'm not Silky anymore.

Speaker 4:

You're ashamed of yourself man.

Speaker 1:

He said you had a radio voice.

Speaker 4:

I haven't been Silky for a minute. Why are you ashamed of him? I'm going to call him.

Speaker 1:

Malcolm, malcolm, he got his Malcolm glasses on. You look like Malcolm.

Speaker 4:

Shira, why you shining?

Speaker 2:

You want to call me Silky Joe.

Speaker 4:

I ain't going to call you Silky. That's just too gay. Ain't nothing wrong with being gay? I guess? No, it ain't nothing, but I'm not from.

Speaker 2:

Akron, where you from. I'm a military brat, but I claim Texas. Why?

Speaker 1:

You don't claim Washington State, fuck you. But I claim Texas, yeah, yeah. Why you don't claim Washington?

Speaker 2:

State what the fuck you claim Texas for? Why not? Why? What's wrong with Texas? Everything, oh my God.

Speaker 4:

Anyways to my left. That's right. This is one of them, alabama Joe who hates Texas, why you claim Bama. I'm born and raised in Alabama War Eagle Uh-oh, I knew that was going to set him off. That's some bullshit right there. We sitting here like we like each other, you're going to do some shit like that. What does War Eagle even mean? I don't even say shit like that.

Speaker 3:

You know that. You know, I don't even say the school name, bro Auburn.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. That's the other school, charles Barkley I don't give a fuck who came from there.

Speaker 2:

Cam Newton.

Speaker 4:

I don't. They all cheaters. Oh yeah, even Charles is a PC, but hey, I don't say the name, bro. Okay, I don't care what you do, you can't trick me, goat me. It will never, ever cross my fucking lips. What's?

Speaker 2:

the other school in Alabama, the other school.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Alabama State. That's right and to my left, uab.

Speaker 4:

We done with this shit, because he going to piss me off, hey. And to my left, the one and only Mason Parks on.

Speaker 2:

Mason.

Speaker 1:

Parks, central Howard's finest Central Howard Eagles? You don't know about that. I don't know about Central Howard's finest Central Howard Eagles. You don't know about that. You don't know about Central Howard Eagles.

Speaker 4:

I'm learning about it right now.

Speaker 1:

A product of Mike Muneer. Google it. Mike Muneer was there. He was there the whole time. You was there, right? Oh, and, like I said, the 2024, it's 2024, right. State champion, high school head coach for what's y'all's mascot? Deer valley sky hawks. And I drive by there all the time, man, I knew I was gonna say deer valley hawks. Anyway, boy, we've been boys from the ground up since like 10, 11. All the time, man, I knew I was going to say Deer Valley Hawks. Anyway, boy, we've been boys from the ground up since like 10, 11 years old. You see the picture right there. I seen it. Hell, yeah, I heard all the stories. Hey, that's 1985. I think we was champs. Well, I don't think I know. We was city champs. Jed, was you the quarterback? I was. Hey, we played against North. They beat us in the regular season. We beat them in the championship.

Speaker 2:

Anyway say hello, god dang, hold on, I'm nervous. He got a hell of an entrance. Ray man, where's he at? Done, give him his round of applause.

Speaker 1:

Hold on you like that damn. I got chills over here. That's what you get when you from Akron. You know about Mason Park.

Speaker 3:

I'm from Akron you should get, you should get.

Speaker 1:

Y'all know when we at LA Fitness and we be killing y'all and y'all wondering like damn where they learn that from. Mason Park, mason Park, ah.

Speaker 3:

Mason Park.

Speaker 1:

Dog after school hey, everybody meet up at Mason Park and play ball.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, till the streetlights come on yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's where I learned how to play.

Speaker 1:

What's up, boys?

Speaker 3:

What's up boys, what's up man? Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:

Hey dog, jay Superstar, Good to have you. Hell yeah, he is Still holding up. We got royalty. Yeah, I told y'all Royalty LeBron James, jed Ray Dunn, chris.

Speaker 4:

Let's go.

Speaker 1:

I told you, dog, I said Jerome Lane, I ain't going to say Jeffrey Dahmer, nope, chris.

Speaker 3:

He went to high school with my wife and her sisters. You got a.

Speaker 2:

Jeffrey Dahmer story.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I told him mine when I worked for Airborne Express.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It was a package that was like left behind. And they was like, oh, now, obviously he was already dead and all that. But I had no idea. I go every day, you know, delivering a package or whatever. Then it was like, oh, that's the old. And then they said it's the old Dahmer house. As soon as they said that, every time I went there from that point forward I think a doctor had lived there at the time I just started shaking and started trying to throw the package at the door.

Speaker 1:

I mean, the dude don't even live there, he dead. But still, it's just hey and it's a very nice area.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Very nice area. You know the paperboy went there. Yeah, Very nice area. You know the paper boy was nervous.

Speaker 1:

Dog man listen. So you said your wife, they went to yeah they all went to Revere High School.

Speaker 3:

I used to drive by his house every day, not knowing, and then one day all the CNN trucks were there. You couldn't get by and it was on the news.

Speaker 1:

Nuts yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's nuts ain't it Crazy.

Speaker 1:

Dog, I told y'all.

Speaker 4:

That's some crazy shit there, bro Jeffrey Dahmer.

Speaker 1:

Jeffrey Dahmer, but anyway.

Speaker 4:

Anyway, right.

Speaker 1:

I know Joe got a couple conspiracies.

Speaker 4:

Jeffrey Dahmer wouldn't even have to go to Fry's. He's probably cheaper than Fry's Motherfucker, higher than a motherfucker at Fry's.

Speaker 1:

Why are they so high, Joe?

Speaker 4:

Man, I got some goddamn hot links.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 4:

Some ground beef, some toilet paper, nigga, that's $150. God.

Speaker 2:

You got more than that.

Speaker 4:

Bullshit. I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 2:

Man, that shit is crazy. I want to see the receipt.

Speaker 4:

No, it's in my car. Okay, he said it seat. It's in my car, I ain't bullshitting, but I'll show it to you.

Speaker 1:

That's some bullshit.

Speaker 4:

You don't grocery shop. You probably got somebody to do it for you.

Speaker 1:

You grocery shop.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, tell this man how high shit is.

Speaker 2:

No shit's high. I grocery shop that shit's expensive.

Speaker 4:

You got the flip app what?

Speaker 3:

is that.

Speaker 4:

You get discounts. No, I no. It just tell you what's on sale. Get the flip app. Get the flip app I got you. When that motherfucker rip out and come on sale, he'll send you a message.

Speaker 3:

It'll send you a message. You can click on the stuff that you want them to send you.

Speaker 4:

No, it'll just send you a message. Hey, man get the flip app, bro, okay damn Pay us.

Speaker 1:

You tripping on that. Hey, I know, huh, tell him Hold on, got it, hold on.

Speaker 4:

Man, they sent me a message the other day. It said goddamn ribs $5 and shit a slab at Albertson yeah.

Speaker 1:

You ran right over there.

Speaker 4:

Man, you know, I got two freezers.

Speaker 1:

You ready? You ready to talk basketball? Let's do it. We're going to talk a little bit.

Speaker 4:

You know, I ain't really been a great basketball player.

Speaker 1:

No, but still Don't you see nothing?

Speaker 4:

No, he said, don't you say nothing, I'd play with your hacking ass. I know, look at that.

Speaker 2:

Hack you dribbling ball? No.

Speaker 4:

He would, though Everyone would be dribbling a ball to hit you, jed, just know how to use his body. Man Jed he play smart Now here's one thing I will tell you, and then, blame you for it.

Speaker 1:

Here's the one thing I will tell you.

Speaker 4:

Jed hit me in the throat and called a fight.

Speaker 1:

How, jed and I've known this Well. Y'all didn't know, no, but but I've known this, like even growing up, because he grew up around the folks around the coach. He grew up around a whole bunch of black people. Yeah, so you know, when you go somewhere and there's a white dude and they be like oh man, you know they think, yeah, you're going to see a little white cat. Like oh he about to be terrible, right, man, jed, get out there. Okay, y'all got some white man can't jump. I disagree, though.

Speaker 4:

no, don't listen white man can't jump listen.

Speaker 2:

Okay, there was a bunch of us playing right and there was a white dude.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay now let's go right now, that cuz you from Texas, we can go somewhere where don't anybody know us, right, okay? And then we be like okay, and let's just say Jed is gonna to sit there Now, probably the best basketball player out of all of us. But then they're going to sit there and be like, oh, okay, as soon as he get in there and he start lighting their ass up a little bit, then it'll be like okay, wait, hold on, who got the little white dude? And he done, lit him up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, now see, for some damn reason, I always end up having to guard the hardest cat. Or somebody thinks like I'm like hey, what you think you're going to get from me, I'm going to give you something, but I ain't going to give you what he's going to give you. But they guarding me, though, all crazy. I'm like hold on, I ain't Dwayne Wade, just let me shoot. They're going to let him shoot. He's going to light their ass up. Then, after about a couple points, we was like, oh, we got to get him now. But you know exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

Oh, yeah, I'm telling you. See, the thing about this cat right here, man, he used to foul me because, no, I wouldn't, though he knew I wouldn't tell you. You knew I wouldn't call him and file. No, I wouldn't call or file for nothing, nope. But then he filed me. Good, right, and I go.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm going to get you back. Listen Now. Look, here's the question.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to get you back.

Speaker 1:

You know, we talk about basketball and stuff sometimes now, since we have a real basketball coach. What's the difference from when we were kids to like today's kids? Because I told all right, this is what I said. I think the skill level of the kids now today are better. I also think, how you know, I'd play a three, four. So when I would get the rebound, it's like give it to the point guard. You know I'm real athletic and go up and down the court, but you had to give the ball to the point guard. Nowadays you got the tall kids and all that dribbling. So now do you agree? Or why is the skill level of the kids today better than with us?

Speaker 3:

I think it's easy. There's a lot of trainers. There's more resources for these kids, more access to guys that can train them. We didn't have trainers Like. Mason Park was our trainer.

Speaker 2:

Yep, see, you just went to the park. I taught myself how to hoop.

Speaker 3:

And my brothers. I'm the youngest of nine and I got my butt kicked all the time by my brothers and that made me.

Speaker 1:

And you was probably like I can't handle this. I see the pain, man. Oh yeah, because Joe.

Speaker 4:

I'm number 11.

Speaker 3:

Man see, and so you possess the most important thing.

Speaker 4:

I'm number 11. You're number nine. You got to be tough, right, right, you got to be tough I.

Speaker 3:

That's the key. There's so many trainers.

Speaker 4:

Hey, listen, let's be honest. When was the first time you had a drumstick?

Speaker 1:

Because, it took me about 15, 16 years to get a drumstick, drumstick Piece of chicken. A job to a job, the stories come out of nowhere. I'm just saying, though, it was so many of us bro.

Speaker 3:

You talking about a drumstick? Piece of chicken, oh, piece of chicken. I probably was at Roger Redding's house, man, my first black friend.

Speaker 2:

You're good, we were seven years old.

Speaker 4:

I hope that being real, though, Listen.

Speaker 3:

I got a story about Roger. Roger played for the Dragons. Okay he was a little bit younger than us. I was over at the house and I opened open a refrigerator around here. You got to ask.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, you know you can't do that. I learned a lot of cultural stuff with that stuff.

Speaker 4:

You don't open that. Yeah, no, you got to teach.

Speaker 3:

She was like no, there's a set time, that's electricity, yeah Right.

Speaker 2:

Opening that up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right.

Speaker 4:

But that's probably back I would get home a little later and everybody didn't eat, and they ate all the good shit. So all you guys was like the chicken neck, the gizzard. Nah, they didn't do the gizzard, but the chicken neck and the back.

Speaker 4:

People don't know nothing about that, but the chicken back and that's just a little strip of meat on the side. I'm serious, though. It was a long time before I got like they went and bought some Kentucky Fried Chicken one year and that's the time I got a drumstick. I'm not making this shit up, dude. I'm serious, I'm not making this up.

Speaker 2:

But you're talking from, because you had a large family.

Speaker 4:

He had a large family, so he should know what we're talking about. But I mean.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

Like making them down. Egg salad sandwiches.

Speaker 3:

We used to hide the cereal boxes and stuff. We had to hide the cereal boxes and things like that.

Speaker 4:

You know we used to try to do. We would take something and put it underneath the bag.

Speaker 3:

So when they?

Speaker 4:

think it empty, so so you pull the bag up.

Speaker 3:

Pull it out the box, you get some more. I love it yes. I love it.

Speaker 1:

Alright, now we're going back to basketball.

Speaker 4:

Okay, well, I'm just saying yeah, hey me and Jay gonna talk all day. No, I mean, we gonna talk.

Speaker 1:

But I was just Listen, cause you know I'm always here Talking about the skill level Of the kids Right and. Like for us, like the skill level now is better, so because so I don't think it's better.

Speaker 2:

I think the kids are it's better.

Speaker 1:

Well, okay, so so you tell me it's a different game.

Speaker 2:

No, their skill level is better skill level is better, but it's a different game than how we were taught sure right, so it's one thing we were talking about is like do they triple threat? The zero, triple threat, all these extra steps okay, old school coaches will the extra steps they get, like we didn't right, we didn't learn, like the zero step, all that type of stuff.

Speaker 3:

I'm teaching float dribbles in my training.

Speaker 1:

Exactly what is the float just?

Speaker 3:

bring it side to side and you do other things with the ball we never would do that so they would call us for

Speaker 1:

carry. Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know what I mean my coaches would have yelled at me. So now, okay, okay, here's another thing, that gather step thing.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, wait.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, play off of two feet.

Speaker 4:

I got to get all this out.

Speaker 1:

Now remember some of the shots that you would just take like threes way back.

Speaker 3:

Men now are acceptable, Like some of the stuff Kaitlin Clark or Steph Curry shoot.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying you never saw that back when we were playing and remember they tell you don't pass the ball across the court as it was skip pass. Or even you know when Bron go from corner to corner. No across the court pass. You didn't do that oh coaches will be like Now you got to teach him, you'll be, sitting on the bench.

Speaker 3:

The game has evolved so much, right.

Speaker 1:

So you're cool with.

Speaker 3:

I'm good with my post players bringing the ball up the floor if they're able to. I want them to start to break. I want them to take one to two dribbles.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And they all need to be able to shoot threes, because our bigs are 6'6".

Speaker 4:

They're not going to be a post in college.

Speaker 3:

They need to. We train all that, but that's what I'm saying Back then you was 6'6".

Speaker 4:

You was a guard, I mean you was a center Period.

Speaker 3:

You were stuck in the post, yeah.

Speaker 4:

You were stuck in the post.

Speaker 1:

You only taught your post moves Right. You better not even put the ball on the ground, you better just.

Speaker 2:

Actually, you better not even bring it down, you got to keep it up. Yeah, see, a better skill. I think the skills that they're learning are different. That's why I say better skill.

Speaker 1:

When did?

Speaker 2:

it say better skills.

Speaker 1:

That's better skills.

Speaker 2:

How are they going to be different?

Speaker 4:

You're going to make me a hater again because you're going to say something messed up.

Speaker 2:

He was talking about the float dribble. Had we learned that we would be able to do it.

Speaker 1:

I'll sit right here and try to do it now. We see this kid that we would be able to do it. I'll sit right here and try to do it now. Now we see it. I might as well use it on Sunday. We see these kids now that are.

Speaker 2:

You know we play with the old group but you go play with the young group, it's. It looks like a travel or a carry to us.

Speaker 3:

That's why I say better skill, because our skill level I agree, I see what you're both saying with the different, like old school dudes, like Stockton and them would be like I'm just as skilled and I'm more efficient. Right, right, right, right, right, or at least equally efficient as them Right. But we're doing it differently, differently, right yeah?

Speaker 1:

Now I know one thing they dribble too, goddamn, or like I know what I do.

Speaker 2:

I'm just like a slap. It's about a setup. Now you sitting up here.

Speaker 4:

As soon as you see them pulling out the phone one of their friends on the side I'm like man go ahead, go to the hole, dog, you ain't trying to put me on YouTube Trying to get you to fall or something You're going to get an elbow.

Speaker 1:

But no, that's what I mean. I know what I mean. You know the better skill.

Speaker 4:

That's why I don't play basketball.

Speaker 1:

Man Joe, you got to come back out there, I'll give you a motherfucking elbow.

Speaker 3:

He's going to shoot from half court. Terrible shot. I got a question. Make it and Joe would be like I don't have to run as much. To get back on defense now I'll tell you something quick.

Speaker 4:

You too deep he was shooting so deep man.

Speaker 1:

Hey, now here's another one the state championship. Yeah, were you more nervous than a regular season game, or was it the same?

Speaker 3:

There's a couple things that happened during warm-ups that just put my mind at ease, right. First of all, the whole community was okay and I'm just scanning and listening.

Speaker 3:

They were one of the things. They started playing some old school music, like we're in a big arena this was the fourth time we've been there, so and this was the one one time I felt like we were the favorite. So that might bring a little bit more pressure, but but I'm listening to the music and they started playing bc boys and ll cool man. I'm like I started dancing on the sideline and my players kind of saw me and it might maybe you know, relaxed them a little bit.

Speaker 3:

And I saw my niece who surprised me coming in so I got a little teary-eyed, yeah, and my mom was here and my brother, eric, and his son, my nephew, were there, so I was calm, right, and this year I've never coached more calm in my life, like the whole season. I was under control, like I brought in a sports psychologist cause. I get angry, I get fired.

Speaker 1:

Right, right Right.

Speaker 3:

And it jacked like last year state championship that we lost was my fault, like during one of the timeouts.

Speaker 1:

I got a question Fourth quarter. I got a question about that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was there last year, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Do you think because I say this sometimes I think sometimes coaches get in the way For sure Instead of just like is it because you don't trust the kid For sure? Because, well, for one, like I know this, I know you very well you played point guard growing up, so you was always used to being in control. Yeah, so now you're a coach, you really can't control it.

Speaker 3:

So now you're a coach you really can't same control it, but you just like, yeah, and I wish I would have done this year's coaching job like last year, years ago, yeah, and we've always been good, but there but hey, you live and learn moments in the game where you rip into them and you might cuss at them and you see their whole shoulders drop and then they go out and get.

Speaker 1:

They get a 6-0 run on them yeah that that's what happened last year yeah right, I didn't do that once this year yeah, I trusted you know, like with us, yeah, like you.

Speaker 3:

I mean you could cuss at us and be like, oh, you stink or so, and so then you're like, oh shit, I'm about to show him different kid this day yeah yeah, but it's not beneficial I mean I get on them, don't get me wrong but, I, don't need to cuss at them for sure, and even when we're struggling, they took the lead on us. I was super calm in the huddle, like we're fine, we're going to be fine. We won the state championship and shot 13% from 3.

Speaker 1:

You shot 13% and had 20 turnovers and won the game the game I saw I was when y'all played Prescott, yeah, at Deer Valley. Oh my God, that dude's crazy. They said he a junior.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he'll be a senior next year.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 3:

Five, six We'll go up and dunk on your head.

Speaker 4:

Five six.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, left hand.

Speaker 2:

Pres Prescott Yep.

Speaker 4:

Joe.

Speaker 1:

Yep, this kid is nice.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he can play. He's nice man. He's a quarterback too Super athletic, so fast.

Speaker 1:

Dude, you can just tell. Yeah, you can tell Because y'all have some athletic kids, but then you just like you could tell that kid was just different from like his teammates.

Speaker 3:

I know you can tell Yep, he's back and they got a 6'10 kid back. They're going to be good next year.

Speaker 2:

I'll win Prescott huh. Yep, I'm impressed.

Speaker 1:

You think y'all going to see him again? Yeah for sure. Yeah, we'll be good again.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, we'll be good again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's all right, right, there you got any incoming freshmen?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we got, we're going to be good said next five. Next five years. That's the crazy thing too, like wherever we lived back in the day. That's the high school I knew I was going to Central. I knew I was going to Central when I was like seven years old, watching games.

Speaker 4:

Right right, right right.

Speaker 3:

Here. It's like if you don't get out and start talking to your own kids, like the kids that feed into your school, they're going to get recruited. And they end up somewhere else, somewhere else.

Speaker 1:

So some kid could end up like at Centennial.

Speaker 3:

You can go wherever you want as an incoming freshman or bring your way Incoming freshman open enrollment.

Speaker 4:

See, I couldn't figure that out because I know my kid ran track right, yeah, and all these track meets. I didn't see no high school coaches there, right On the USA, whatever it is, I can't remember.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know. It's probably different in track. I can't remember.

Speaker 4:

But anyway, usa track and field. My bad, but I didn't really see any high school coaches there. You know what I mean. Yeah, and then when they get to high school, the coach don't really know who they are.

Speaker 3:

Don't know them right.

Speaker 4:

You know you don't know. It's just like your boy, Jason Williams, tell the story about Ant. You know he didn't know who Ant was.

Speaker 3:

He had him on the bench.

Speaker 2:

He's like well, get in Well get in See track's more of an individual sport, though you know.

Speaker 4:

I know.

Speaker 3:

That's changing though too, though no that's not no.

Speaker 4:

No, if you got to think about it is like, in my opinion is like a lot of the coaches out here they plug and play coaches.

Speaker 4:

So you know, and I think they should be more developmental people and like I used to do that Pop Warner thing, man and I used to be so mad because, like they didn't want to just put a person in the spot and say, hey man, you know what this kid got potential, whatever. Oh, let's send him over here. I don't want to deal with him or whatever, you know what I mean. So but just say, you take him, and when he started getting progress and he started doing his thing, oh now you want to get involved?

Speaker 4:

oh yeah, we need to move him over here now, you want to, now you want to take him, and a lot, of, a lot of the coaches and feeders are like that, like the feeder teams and the feeder schools.

Speaker 2:

That's what gets me Like you were saying. You know, when we grew up, there was no feeder.

Speaker 4:

It was just you went to that school. No, when we grew up, the coaches knew they had to develop.

Speaker 3:

They had to in order to have a team.

Speaker 4:

You see a guy with potential, you're like, oh yeah, and then you're going to be this for me and you take him and you mold him and to whatever you want him to be, that's a good thing, and then that could also be a bad thing, because he might have potential to be something else. Sure, but either way, you know. And another thing they did, they taught a lot of life lessons growing up then. Back then. A lot of people don't really do that now. Now, are you sure?

Speaker 2:

yeah because I said, a lot of people don't really do that now, are you sure?

Speaker 3:

I said a lot of people don't do that.

Speaker 4:

Okay, I didn't say, oh, you don't do that.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 3:

I didn't say that.

Speaker 4:

Life lessons and shit is. And I'm telling you right now I didn't have kids that were six or seven years old in high school that come up and say, hey, coach, you told me some shit. That was true. That's the way it is. It is what it is.

Speaker 3:

And that's a good feeling when that shit happens?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, for sure, you know, because when your kids graduate and they go on and then they come back to you and say, hey, coach, I appreciate everything you did for me. No, we've seen it firsthand. That's the best thing ever.

Speaker 2:

Jed has a great relationship with his kids. I've never seen a kid.

Speaker 3:

We played basketball.

Speaker 1:

That's what I said. You know, I know what you mean. You have some good kids, that's a beautiful feeling right there yeah. I see them around the gym. Yeah, when the kids come back, they're real good kids, you know.

Speaker 3:

We talk about that. We call them separators, like what's going to separate you from the other kid that's being recruited to a college. They're separators Like helping kids up off the ground Talking to adults that's a rule of ours. Like I expect my kids to say hello to adults before adults say hello to them, right? And you remember little things like that we talk about girls how you should be treating girls. You're going to have a daughter someday possibly.

Speaker 3:

You ain't going to want no kid talking to her the way you possibly are talking to your girl.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, that's absolutely true.

Speaker 4:

What you going to do when your daughter meets you.

Speaker 3:

Right, exactly.

Speaker 4:

Think about that one.

Speaker 3:

We got six girls between the two of us.

Speaker 4:

You can use that if you want to. I will for sure you can use that if you want to. I'll just tell you like it is. That's what got me.

Speaker 2:

What you going to do. You got girls.

Speaker 1:

I said what you going to do when your daughter meets you. What you going to do? My boys are respectful.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4:

And then you get to think about all your past and all this crap you did yeah for sure. And then you get to think about all your past and all this crap you done, did, and you're like, oh crap, what the hell am I going to do? Right, and you know what I did. I know what I did. I went and got my shotgun and sat on the couch, Got ready for prom. Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1:

Hey it is what it is Because all your girls are out of high school now right yeah are out of high school now right, Okay, but you know that's a beautiful thing right there when you tell them to be respectful. No, it is. It is man, because you never know what's going to happen, because we weren't even raised like that.

Speaker 4:

No, we was just you, just you know. I mean, I was raised like you just had to be respectful.

Speaker 1:

You had to be yeah, just to whoever it didn't matter and, being from the South, yeah, yeah. We were in the Midwest and we still had. It's a respect thing too right.

Speaker 2:

It's a respect thing.

Speaker 4:

It's a whole different thing, you respect your elders. It wasn't even respect, you just had boundaries, so it was funny.

Speaker 2:

You say that you go to some of these high school football games, basketball games, and you're sitting up in the stands and as adults you're sitting there and you see these kids they're cussing and all this. I'm like I would never have done that sitting up in the stands.

Speaker 1:

I can't do it now and I am an adult, but I just feel weird like no awareness, none.

Speaker 4:

None, I'm going to tell you this right now. And when I left high school, I got out of high school. What?

Speaker 1:

is that.

Speaker 4:

I joined the Marine Corps when I was 17 years old. Is that me? No, that ain't me. I got out of. Marine Corps, yeah, and it was like that's Joe's phone.

Speaker 1:

Is that your phone? That's not my phone. Oh, that's your.

Speaker 4:

I don't know what that is. That was one of the Hardest fucking things and people don't understand. I went to a ball game, right, high school game, that was my watch and, and you know, I'm Kind of like Freshly out of that military Right.

Speaker 1:

Uh huh.

Speaker 4:

And they played the national anthem Right. And they played the National Anthem right and the ring. So I'm standing at attention and this little motherfucker sitting next to me eating chips and shit yeah, sitting down.

Speaker 3:

And on the phone and listen.

Speaker 4:

I swear to God, I want to hit the little girl in the throat.

Speaker 2:

I really did.

Speaker 4:

I'm sitting there like man, I can't believe this shit.

Speaker 2:

You guys are sitting here.

Speaker 4:

The National Anthem playing. Then you got kids throwing footballs that are sitting here in the National Anthem playing. Then you got kids throwing footballs. That's right, fast forward five, six years later, whatever. Then you got the Colin Kaepernick thing jump off. Right, I'm sitting there like so you guys are complaining about that shit, but these little motherfuckers eating chips, throwing footballs and shit the way I felt was like that was the most degrading thing that I ever saw in my life again.

Speaker 2:

It's like jed was saying I'm just saying that.

Speaker 4:

That was you know for me, yeah, no, I mean it took me about six years to deprogram. I'm not kidding, you know like to do. You literally do program. Yeah, because I was. I was believing, believe it or not, I was gung-ho man. I was hardcore like a motherfucker. When I got out, I was gung-ho, bro. You good now. Every one of y'all was discussing civilians. To me, bro, I couldn't stand. A civilian Saved my life. I could not stand it. You smiled and pissed me off. No way, but you good now.

Speaker 1:

I but you good now.

Speaker 4:

I'm good now. All right, no, I'm serious, I am good now. I don't need to convince you, but I'm just saying I'm good now. It ain't the alcohol either. I'm good. You done no no, no, this is my second one, I love it and someone called Joe Uber. No, I'm just saying, though, it was great, I mean, you know, but I always had respect For other people Because we were raised, yeah, yeah, and it was a lot of us. I mean, my mom had 13 kids and shit, I'm number 11 and, uh, I'm two of two.

Speaker 4:

We was like Whew, you know you're on the count as one on taxes. Oh, were you a twin.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like you know, you only count as one on taxes.

Speaker 2:

Oh, what were you a twin. Yeah, oh, no, you count as two. No, you don't Two Okay you have the twins and try to count them then. On taxes, bro, you only count as one. They got two different social security numbers.

Speaker 4:

You only count as one bro, Is that true?

Speaker 1:

All right now, who got a basketball question?

Speaker 2:

I got a basketball question.

Speaker 1:

Because I got something else too about now go ahead.

Speaker 2:

So, when you talk to your kids, when you recruit these kids, what is the main thing you're looking for?

Speaker 4:

as a coach.

Speaker 3:

Right, High character Character yeah, yeah, that's the most important thing. Skill yeah, I mean obviously if they're good.

Speaker 2:

Coach Cal yeah, that's the most important thing Skill, yeah, I mean obviously, if they're good, coach Cal. Yeah, that's a positive thing, coach Calipari.

Speaker 3:

I mean we obviously want kids that can hoop, you know, but right away they got to do it our way, like that's super important.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, you said what if it's like me, me me, like I come out there.

Speaker 3:

They'll figure it out like, coach, I'm cooking. Yeah, they'll figure it out I mean I'm good but, you're like, but this dude is not never had a problem a team player. Yeah, my first year in ohio at brush high school up in cleveland, I had a kid that shot a lot and his dad wanted him to shoot a lot and that was hard. I was still young, but I haven't had any issues.

Speaker 2:

The parents though is it? Yeah, man, but we're boys now, like the dad loves me and he's my boy so, but when you, when you have these kids and I know it's a little bit different in high school, but what?

Speaker 3:

about these parents. Parents jack it up For real, parents jack it up.

Speaker 1:

They live through their kid. Jack it up, yeah, or they think their kid better than they really are. Yeah, yeah and sometimes you need to just tell them like hey you know your kid ain't that good.

Speaker 2:

You go insult me, I'm just saying you don't have to stop that shit, so my kids play hockey.

Speaker 4:

In case you don't know, bro, this guy is very insulting. You got to stop that shit, bro.

Speaker 2:

You got to stop it, bro. He's still mad because he told Joe she shops at Kohl's.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm not, Don't play it.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead man.

Speaker 3:

So my kids they?

Speaker 2:

play hockey. My youngest played club hockey. The first thing the coach did was talk to, had the parents in the room. He said your kid's going to know before you know why they're not playing, and I respect that. He's like I don't want no parents coming up to me asking why their kid's not playing. Because, your son's going to know before you know why they're not playing.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to take you back 40 years, oh Lord. And I remember my coach said the exact same thing you just said. You know how he said it, what he said. I don't like white people.

Speaker 3:

But I'm fair.

Speaker 4:

And if you're white and you're not playing, it ain't because you're white, it's because you ain't damn worth a damn. I love that. That sounds awesome.

Speaker 3:

No, but I'm just saying, that's exactly what he said that is exactly what he said.

Speaker 4:

I saw that in the movie, though, and we had five of the coldest white kids on the motherfucking team, bro, they was cold as fuck, right. But they played yeah, exactly, and the other five went to private schools because they came and bought them cars and coasted them away. You and Bro sure broke up. No.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying the same thing you did Strong sign.

Speaker 4:

It's just the way it's said. Back in the day, though, it was just crazy.

Speaker 1:

He got fired afterward, but that's okay, all right, here we go, man, this participation trophies. Now you know, when we played, everybody didn't play. Now you got these little leagues where everybody has to play.

Speaker 4:

They have to have so many plays.

Speaker 1:

What the hell is that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you do, you have to have eight plays, oh, like Pop Warner, but not in high school. No, no, no, no, no, I'm going back.

Speaker 1:

It starts back then. That's what he's high school. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:

I'm going back. It starts back then. That's what he's talking about.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so, now, when they get into high school, like if you don't play, you don't play because we either didn't need you or I don't like the participation trophy. Era man, what I?

Speaker 4:

didn't like was the weight thing, the what the weight thing, the what the weight thing. You can only weigh so much when you're in certain leagues, and all that.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, so here's the thing though.

Speaker 4:

So you're 130 pounds and you're dominating this league, right. So you get up to about 150 and then you step up into this other league and everybody's 205.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, and you're not dominating no more.

Speaker 4:

And you're sitting there like ain't nothing you can do, yeah, you know. And I always say they tell me, oh, he's little, but he got heart. He's 150 pounds, but he got heart. Okay, what are you going to do when you meet somebody 250 with heart?

Speaker 1:

No, that's true, that's going to be a trouble thing, but no listen.

Speaker 4:

But at the same token I don't agree with the weight thing, Like if you can play, you can play Period, you know.

Speaker 1:

You talking about like weight limits, they do that for safety of the kids. Yeah, I can understand that. You don't want no.

Speaker 4:

They don't do it in high school.

Speaker 1:

The high school, I mean high school our bets are off. I I'm just saying you're in eighth grade, you can only weigh this much, so you're struggling.

Speaker 4:

You got kids, so you're in eighth grade or whatever. You're in one of those weighted leads or whatever. You can't play unless you weigh so much, right. So everybody about the same, it's a seventh grade bro, Everybody's about the same weight class, but then the next year, which makes a big difference. But people don't understand. Like if you're 7 and this motherfucker 8, that's a big difference. People think it ain't, but it is oh, from 7 and 8 no, I'm serious, that's a big difference.

Speaker 4:

so now you're going to go from 8th grade to the 9th grade and, depending who you are, you can go to varsity or JV or whatever freshman class or whatever you're going to do, but there's no weight limit. A lot of that's changed though.

Speaker 1:

Today's podcast is brought to you by Mike's Harder Lemonade.

Speaker 4:

It has not changed. That's a thing.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

So, I'm just saying though, like they have sponsored Joe's content today, if you keep a kid in a weight limit. Send all your emails to Mike's.

Speaker 2:

We talking football now, not basketball.

Speaker 1:

That's why I'm saying the same thing.

Speaker 4:

I want to know participation trophies. Okay, think about this. Let him answer the participation trophy question you playing basketball right and then Zion Williams walked in the gym. We're going to interview you next week. Zion walked in the basketball right and then Zion Williams walked in the gym. We're going to interview you next week. No wait. Zion walked in the gym right and he's like what? 12, 240 pounds.

Speaker 1:

Hey, he probably was like Ain't no weight, that's football. That ain't no weight limit in basketball.

Speaker 4:

He said that. He said that I didn't say that.

Speaker 1:

What weight limit in basketball. He said that. He said that I didn't say that.

Speaker 4:

Well, weight limit and basketball, he said we talking About basketball, not football.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause I asked Him about participation Trophy.

Speaker 4:

I'm just saying and just like in general oh, we man, please, they get that out. You ain't gonna change that.

Speaker 1:

Well, participation trophy, they gotta get that To everybody.

Speaker 4:

We never had that though I know you didn't, I kept 19 kids on the varsity this year and we rotated jerseys.

Speaker 2:

Really, that's beautiful.

Speaker 3:

And not a single parent said anything about playing time.

Speaker 1:

They knew, but you had 19? So how many can you? You had 15.

Speaker 3:

So four of them. We rotated shirts every week. The kids that can't really. They're good kids, they're decent, they're seniors.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I got you. We had one kid his, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 3:

Like we had one kid. His mom got murdered. I'm not getting rid of him. I'm not getting rid of him. You know what I mean. I'm going to keep like they're just good kids, but they were no issues and we used them to practice Right. They went against our kids, but you've got to talk to the parents about that.

Speaker 1:

Like, hey, I'm keeping you. Y'all know he's from Akron, right Because?

Speaker 3:

like just playing in the game. That's such a small part of what we teach these kids, right Like there's kids right now training with us that didn't make the team, that have no chance of making the team, but they're hanging with us and their parents want them to be in front of us.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

And I'm with them every day. They're not going to play in any games in the summer but they're with us training.

Speaker 4:

Have you had one of those that graduated up?

Speaker 3:

to that. I've had kids that Just say you got ones that you're like okay, would you just say it.

Speaker 4:

Then they come back in the summer and you're like this motherfucker, ain't no joke.

Speaker 3:

You know what else we do that people don't know? We do a cut league the kids, all the high school kids that get cut in the area.

Speaker 1:

You told me about that. Yeah, we bring them in.

Speaker 3:

That's dope yeah we put them in a program and train them and there's been a couple from other schools that made their teams the next year. And the parents love it, man, they're in kids aren't good, so they're playing against other kids that are equal to them. Man, that's a really cool thing.

Speaker 1:

Listen, that is a beautiful thing that's a cool, I can speak to this. I can hug you right now and don't let mike's uh, he's been drinking outshadow me right now. Okay, sports teaches you discipline. For sure, it teaches you stuff in life. I mean, I learned this way from our dads Because, you know, our dads coached us, but our dads also weren't the parents of where well, we always played, but if you didn't play, they weren't the types like oh, put my son in yeah, they wouldn't have been that type, they would have just been like okay, you need to get better, Because my papa's like oh okay, well, you're nice, but trust me, there's a kid out there somewhere that's just as nice.

Speaker 1:

And then I heard about Randy Moss. Now go ahead. No, but I'm for real. You start thinking about it. You're like, I'm alright, and then you start thinking like, oh shit, you go to another park, or or you meet this guy and this guy. You're like, oh shit, a lot of us. It is, it is and then you realize like, okay, that's why you always have to be you know, just stay humble. I know we all talk a little trash.

Speaker 3:

There's a little sixth or seventh grader somewhere, and I'm talking to my team. There's a little sixth or seventh grader somewhere, and I'm talking to my team. There's a little sixth or seventh grader somewhere right now. That's going to take your guys' spot when you're a senior, when they're freshmen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And that was my twins, the two twin guards, little Mexican guards. Like they came in here as freshmen and took folks' jobs.

Speaker 1:

So there's a sixth grader somewhere that's on your butt right now.

Speaker 3:

You don't even know.

Speaker 1:

What grade are they in?

Speaker 3:

They're sophomores. They'll be juniors next year.

Speaker 1:

So they'll be juniors.

Speaker 3:

Man, they're dogs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nice yeah.

Speaker 3:

And I let them play. I've learned Tarassi, diana Tarassi. A new coach came in and she was averaging like 25 a game and the new coach was like you're getting too many technicals, no more technicals and next year get as many touchdowns as you need. That's like these kids Like go be a dog.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do what you do. Do what you do Because you're trying to.

Speaker 3:

it's almost like you're trying to bottle it up, don't do it, and you just be like dude, go ahead do your thing, right, right, right right, don't just go out there being wild.

Speaker 4:

When did you find that to let them go?

Speaker 3:

That's back to the point guard thing. I've always kind of want to be in control of this stuff. I stopped calling sets probably halfway through the season this year.

Speaker 1:

Damn, I Just let them flow. I never paid attention to that. Let them go.

Speaker 3:

They know how to play. I'm always a set guy. I've been a set guy right. I'm like. These dudes know what to do man.

Speaker 2:

They probably have a lot more fun doing that as well they do.

Speaker 3:

They don't have to remember stuff because I this helped A-Lon Johnson, one of my players, one of the most athletic kids in the state, couldn't remember stuff. He just plays, man, he got a full ride scholarship. Just let him play let him play you think? You think that's that's hard for me, but, man, they play with a lot of freedom. Yeah, so I give you freedom on the offensive end you got to do stuff down there for me.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you got to D them up, that's all right right there, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I guess that would be more like playing. Let's say like if you're playing in a league or something you know like let's just say an adult league, and we coming down we don't have no sets or nothing, you know, you just like Just hooping. Okay, Kind of like the Celtics, that's like the.

Speaker 3:

I mean there's some organized Right right, right, right right, that's like the Sheskey right, he doesn't play offense but you got to play offense yeah.

Speaker 4:

Right. I mean it's kind of like the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 1:

What they do.

Speaker 4:

They ain't got no set. They want to come down and just shoot.

Speaker 2:

The.

Speaker 4:

NBA game, depending on if he feel it Okay.

Speaker 1:

If he feel it, they shouldn't have lost that game. Here's another question for you. Do you think a lot of people talking about Ant Edwards called out Kyrie?

Speaker 3:

Oh, he did. I didn't hear that.

Speaker 1:

No, that's what they're saying. All he said was his matchup was going to be Kyrie.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1:

A lot of people are saying they're trying to make it into summer. He called him out. Yeah, I love.

Speaker 3:

Edwards, I love him.

Speaker 1:

He can go.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, no he can, and he doesn't make excuses, he's excited. He's like, yeah, like he's old school. That dude is excited. I like it, I like watching him.

Speaker 3:

All right, lucas said.

Speaker 2:

What'd he?

Speaker 3:

say I just watched it on TikTok on the way over he said. He said I'm the best white player in the world, right? So I must got a little bit of Larry Bird DNA in me.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Speaker 3:

Right. And then he said I think he was talking to Ant, like someone must have said something.

Speaker 1:

Right Then he mentioned Kyrie, who has the best handles ever Ever. I already know who, I think.

Speaker 3:

I mean.

Speaker 1:

I'm going, kyrie.

Speaker 3:

I think Kyrie is up there for sure. His handle is Listen, Steph Curry got nice handles.

Speaker 1:

He really does, but still no, steph does have.

Speaker 3:

And you know who else who can handle it Nash, nash. Yeah, he had Nash, and it's a different like you said it's a different handle.

Speaker 1:

It's a different handle. Oh, Jason Williams' handles was nice White chocolate, white chocolate.

Speaker 4:

That dude was stupid, I'll put his handles behind Kyrie. Yeah, yeah, I go. Kyrie, jason Williams, jason, he's still playing adult league in.

Speaker 2:

Orlando you see his daughter plays softball for Florida. Oh is she, she's nice is she?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, like that dude, he was smooth, I think he was. He was before his time, he was like when, like if he played now, I think he'd be even he'd be straight, he'd be really good.

Speaker 2:

Jason Williams was the N1 player that ended up in there.

Speaker 1:

His handle.

Speaker 2:

Once again, we could put the professor up there.

Speaker 4:

Raven Alston had handles.

Speaker 1:

No he had Hot songs. Listen. My favorite point guard of all time is the Detroit Pistons, Isaiah Thomas.

Speaker 2:

Isaiah Thomas.

Speaker 1:

Now, because I know you was a big Jordan fan.

Speaker 4:

I'm a big.

Speaker 1:

Jordan fan. Yeah, yeah, I'm a big Jordan fan. Now tell me this who would you consider the GOAT?

Speaker 3:

I knew you were going to ask me that today and we're from Akron right and we grew up with the Bronx See, so sometimes I can't answer.

Speaker 1:

I tell them the story.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I said Leroy, give me an answer, leroy, man, I ain't afraid to say it.

Speaker 1:

Leroy.

Speaker 4:

Here's what I said, leroy.

Speaker 1:

My job. I went to St Vincent, St Mary. My job was directly across the street. Now, remember, I'm a college football player. I was what? 26, 27? Going over playing, still in great shape, dunking whatever. I think LeBron was, maybe 16, 17?

Speaker 3:

12 years younger than me.

Speaker 1:

So we're sitting up here, we're going, we're playing, it was all right.

Speaker 3:

I mean he was always good now.

Speaker 1:

But I'm just saying like I could attempt to guard him. Like freshman year, sophomore year came, nah, I can't do it somebody else has to get this dude.

Speaker 4:

It was just like so much bigger, and all that just say Leroy and the Goat, right, but here's my thing.

Speaker 1:

We seen. I told them too a few episodes ago. The second best high school player I ever seen with my own eyes in person was Jimmy Jackson, and this is when we was playing at Toledo May Conference.

Speaker 4:

It was LeBron. Jimmy Jackson was nice though.

Speaker 3:

When we lost to Cleveland St Joe's. If we would have beat them, we would have played them, you would have played Jimmy Jackson and y'all lost to Tony Miller.

Speaker 1:

Tony's, if we would have beat them, we would have played them. You would have played Jimmy Jackson, and y'all lost to Tony Miller. Tony Miller, who's out here? Is Tony Miller out here?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's one of the best trainers in the state.

Speaker 1:

Duh.

Speaker 3:

Training everyone. He was a baller.

Speaker 1:

He played football.

Speaker 3:

Point guard at Marquette. I'm just telling you Four years at Marquette.

Speaker 4:

Ohio man we just got athletes, man, I don't know why.

Speaker 1:

I mean you. Just I don't know if it's the water.

Speaker 4:

I don't know about the athlete but I know y'all got beautiful women. Hey, come on, all right, no let's get back to the goal.

Speaker 1:

So I'm giving it to LeBron.

Speaker 3:

I'm giving it to LeBron too, Listen, I idolize Michael Jordan. We both did yeah, yeah, and I love LeBron. Lebron's first 12, 13, 14, 15 years whatever dominant Recently. His antics to me are hurting his legacy in that argument.

Speaker 2:

The flopping Right the flopping not getting into the screen like into the TV camera from staying back.

Speaker 3:

Those kind of things I don't think Jordan would have ever done.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

But there's a disadvantage for LeBron too. It's the cell phone and social media.

Speaker 2:

Everyone follows him, no one was following Jordan like that, no one was following Jordan like that with cameras, but I never.

Speaker 3:

I watched every one of Jordan's games, man. He was always in the screen and he never made excuses, man, if they lost. We need to get better, so I respect that deeply. I think they're both stinking good.

Speaker 1:

It's such a small, it's nice to be considered a GOAT.

Speaker 2:

Can I say something real quick? It's two different eras. I understand that. Do I think LeBron could play in that era? Yes, minus the flopping.

Speaker 3:

You can't flop in that era.

Speaker 2:

You get beat up but Jordan in this era, I think would dominate.

Speaker 3:

They're both dominant for sure yeah. Jordan's my GOAT.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

I would hesitate to say it because LeBron's my boy.

Speaker 3:

Right, right, right If he was right here, I'd be like LeBron Right.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to go with Leroy.

Speaker 3:

That's my boy right there. He's really man Because.

Speaker 4:

I think but.

Speaker 1:

I respect what he's saying because he knows basketball way better than me.

Speaker 4:

I think they're more athletic these days than they were back then.

Speaker 2:

Jordan's pretty athletic. No, no, he's talking about the opponent.

Speaker 1:

Overall, Okay okay, he's talking about, like Bill Cartwright and Gabe Corzine, just say the league. Say the league had 250 people enjoying basketball. Like now Mel Turpin is Rudy. Rudy Gobert, you might have had 150 of them.

Speaker 4:

That was athletic and could do something. Now you got 250, but they all 250 can ball.

Speaker 2:

They're more athletic now, but you didn't want to run into Charles Oakley Right. Knock your ass out.

Speaker 1:

I saw.

Speaker 2:

Charles Oakley slap somebody you didn't want to run into Charles.

Speaker 1:

Oakley, right, knock your ass out. I saw Charles Oakley slap somebody man, charles Oakley, you didn't want to run into Barkley. Barkley wasn't athletic.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But you didn't want to run into him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but see you got to understand.

Speaker 4:

You got to understand, though, love it. They was fat though. Who, I don't care. Barkley and Oakley. They were fat back in the day Barkley wasn't fat.

Speaker 2:

No, he wasn't fat, he was dominating?

Speaker 4:

Yes, he was. When he lost the weight, he wasn't fat.

Speaker 1:

No, probably when he got to Houston or something.

Speaker 4:

Barkley was 300-something pounds. What are you talking about? He wasn't fat. Why are you hating?

Speaker 2:

on Barkley Because he went to Auburn.

Speaker 4:

Oh, that's right. That's why he's hating he was fat.

Speaker 3:

He would tell you himself.

Speaker 4:

He was fat. But, he was still good. I'm not saying he was good, but he was fat Watching those games from that era. If you look at the player today, that motherfucker's athletic.

Speaker 3:

I agree.

Speaker 4:

Like you said, it's the training, all this motherfucking high tech shit they got going on. Look, the motherfucker knew not to eat too many hamburgers. It's a softer error.

Speaker 2:

This error is about scoring. That error was not about scoring Nutrition and shit.

Speaker 4:

I mean, don't get me wrong, they taught us nutrition. We didn't take it serious, because that's just what it was. But now the nutrition and all that stuff is a big factor.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree, what about?

Speaker 4:

Zion.

Speaker 3:

These guys have. I love him, he's a man y'all and he went to Duke. That's my favorite.

Speaker 1:

These guys have cooks and shit. I love Zion, my dog.

Speaker 2:

Zion's in the wrong era right now. He should have been back in that era, especially if he.

Speaker 1:

So you think if he can develop a constant like a nine, he don't even need to develop a three. No, but he's always hurt.

Speaker 3:

Right now, he's always hurt. I do think there's such a thing as being too athletic. You think it's because of his weight. I think some kids are too athletic, like.

Speaker 1:

Derrick.

Speaker 3:

Rose.

Speaker 2:

I think he is. Derrick Rose is too athletic.

Speaker 3:

You could be too athletic, and that's how you get injured.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, those cats move and cut so quick.

Speaker 2:

Because I'm sitting up here looking at this big dude like he needs somebody to almost slow him down.

Speaker 4:

Hey, he blew his shoe out though.

Speaker 1:

Like you'll see him here be at the three. Next thing you know he's dribbling. He at the foul line. Next thing you know, he at the bucket Bucking on people. How in the hell did he get there so fast?

Speaker 4:

And his second jump is so fast. He's. That freak Zion needed a little help, that's all.

Speaker 1:

You need some help.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, a little bit. A couple more players, yeah, just need a little bit.

Speaker 2:

They got some talent on that team, yeah.

Speaker 4:

It don't matter, you need a little help bro.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you know somebody on that team from Ohio, that's right. Oh my God, if I hear from them, they're looking for me.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, hey, there's someone part of that team.

Speaker 4:

Hey.

Speaker 1:

Jared, that's my job to sit up here. Anything from.

Speaker 4:

Ohio man. Look he an Army brat. He can claim Ohio too.

Speaker 1:

Hey, listen, that's the thing.

Speaker 4:

He an Army brat, though he can claim Ohio. I've been through Ohio. What's the Ohio State bird?

Speaker 2:

The bird yeah.

Speaker 1:

You said what's the bird? Yeah, what's the state bird, what's the state flower?

Speaker 4:

I need to know all this. We never really needed to know that man I don't know what the bird is, but back to mason park. I know the bird is the state flower, the wait yeah I gotta hear a story with uh cj mccullum

Speaker 3:

right um he was going to glen oak and todd sudden was the ad D down there.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And Todd went to Central Howard.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Coached me at Revere. That's when.

Speaker 3:

I first started coaching and we were getting ready to leave Ohio to move to Arizona. Okay, it was like 2003 or whatever and the head coaching position came up at Glen Oak. Okay, and he called me right away and said if you come down here and interview, don't come down here if you ain't going to take the job.

Speaker 1:

Right right.

Speaker 3:

And I'm like man, we're about to possibly move to Arizona and I would have had McCollum and the big kid that went to Ohio State, the big center, coach Jacufas.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Several years, but I would have gotten to coach that dude.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy. Mccollum is nice man, he's the one that hit Duke up with like 40.

Speaker 3:

And he went to a brown-colored uniform, some small school.

Speaker 1:

It's the Ivy League, smoked him.

Speaker 3:

Smoked Duke. That's when I first learned about it.

Speaker 1:

What's the Ivy League start with a P Princeton. No, it wasn't Princeton, they're brown. Wait, did he go to Dartmouth?

Speaker 3:

Nope Keep saying it.

Speaker 1:

You said it started with a P. It ain't a P, no wait.

Speaker 2:

It's not Princeton.

Speaker 1:

It ain't Columbia. I just looked. You said it's not Dartmouth.

Speaker 3:

No, it ain't Dartmouth, I just saw it. Cornell no.

Speaker 2:

Damn. You said it starts with a P Lehigh, lehigh.

Speaker 3:

Lehigh.

Speaker 1:

God damn.

Speaker 3:

Yep, man, he's what. They were the 15 seed and Duke was the two seed.

Speaker 2:

So I got a question for you.

Speaker 3:

Who was the best player you've? Ever coached Probably well. Potentially would have been Marcus Ruppel, my first year out here. He was, besides LeBron, the second best player I've ever watched play 6'8". As soon as I got out here, I started getting phone calls from major universities right, they're flying in to see him, but he had a huge like attitude problem. I had to actually kick him off the team, like seven games in. And the game before I kicked him off, he had 36 and 20 rebounds Unbelievable game.

Speaker 2:

Before I kicked him off, he had 36 and 20 rebounds what unbelievable.

Speaker 3:

Just a real bad anger. But um, yeah, like he got a full ride, scholarship ended up getting.

Speaker 2:

You know, not that didn't work out, um, but we're still boys, but he was stinking talented yeah, does that make you sick when?

Speaker 1:

you have all this talent out right, hey, you know hey.

Speaker 3:

I was telling them yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like tell them, there are so many people probably like just chilling at the corner on West Exchange, west Market, baird Street, that I'm like y'all think, like I mean they might not have been the nicest brawn, but like just super, super nice. Sometimes they couldn't get off, they didn't want to leave the corner man.

Speaker 3:

I played in the Perkins Pool League on the west side and this thing was hey.

Speaker 1:

the Perkins Pool League is our version of Rucker in New York.

Speaker 3:

It really is, yeah, and there'll be 500 people watching on the fences?

Speaker 1:

Yup, they pull up with all the cars. Duh, and I would guess If you hoop there, yeah, I would guess If you hooped there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I would guess that only 50% of those dudes played high school basketball. Okay, yeah. But they were out there just killing.

Speaker 1:

That's true. That's true. Half the team. You would like play somebody. You know we all like high school kids or something. Or even after, when we became adults, you sent a pair of lights Wait, damn, he ain't playing high school.

Speaker 2:

Like you said, he didn't play in high school. He didn't play in high school.

Speaker 1:

You like man gracious.

Speaker 3:

That's where you learn how to play, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was just wondering, like as far as like with the skill level and stuff, because we would sit up there seventh, eighth grade and we was playing with the high school kids. You know they kind of like mix us up in there and all that, but you know you still sit up there and you'll go play like.

Speaker 3:

You know what's different too. I just mentioned this to some of my players. When you went to the park, if you were like waiting and there was ten dudes playing and there was five waiting, you might not be playing the next game.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, no, no, no, pick up right. Oh no, you pick somebody up off the court.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to take the three that are better than you, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Y'all going to have to wait, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So if you couldn't hoop, you played the last game. Yeah that's true, you might play the last game you might not play at all.

Speaker 2:

That's true.

Speaker 1:

That's why we're so used to like when you lead a court. We just used to be like, oh, I'll take him, I'll take him, I'll take him, and he's running with me, let's go, yeah. And then if you ain't get picked, you be like all right, here I got, next I got next yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah. Whenever your game came and nobody know you, you wouldn't even have no team.

Speaker 3:

That's a valuable lesson Dog.

Speaker 4:

He's like hey, you want to run with me? No, bro, I'm good, I wait.

Speaker 1:

So now, would you ever?

Speaker 4:

I'll tell you what, though this man here would run with you, though he didn't care, he was like I'll run with you, dog.

Speaker 3:

Hey, how long were you playing on hoop?

Speaker 4:

You ain't get the ball from him. But he said I run the ball, no you didn't pass. What did I just say?

Speaker 1:

You said you wouldn't get the ball I said you couldn't hoop oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, and you'll be like hey.

Speaker 4:

I run with you dog.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he'll freeze you up. I'm going to be selective. I'm going to be selective 515.

Speaker 1:

Did you. He said I'll run with you. Oh, y'all play right over here. Yeah, oh damn.

Speaker 4:

I'm just telling you what he do. He said I'll run with you and you wouldn't get the ball.

Speaker 1:

How many times a week do you play? I know you play Sunday.

Speaker 3:

I'm in a Wednesday league and I'm in a Sunday league and where do you play? Wednesday In Lifetime.

Speaker 1:

I Play the.

Speaker 3:

I'm proud of y'all. Man, that's fun so you play Wednesday at Lifetime right here 67th yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yep, and then Scottsdale. Oh, okay, okay, you play.

Speaker 2:

Sunday.

Speaker 1:

Morning League. There's three gyms right.

Speaker 3:

They only have one now, because they all Pickleball.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Pickleball is taking over.

Speaker 2:

You see them build another Pick pickleball place over there. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Dog. Don't bring that, tom Brady. You seen the one down by the stadium.

Speaker 1:

Damn you, tom Brady, you seen the pickleball oh, chicken, yeah that facility is crazy.

Speaker 2:

I've never been in there. It's so crazy, it's so nice. So they got the one on Bell. They're building another one on Bell.

Speaker 3:

I played at the one on Bell the pickleball.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, where that Stoudmart is, hey that's Tom Brady man.

Speaker 1:

Tony Molina got one in his house.

Speaker 3:

Oh, he got a pickleball In his big old garage. Tony, oh my God, yeah, white Tony.

Speaker 1:

White Tony. Yeah, Tony Rich. You know, we got black Tony, Tony Rich.

Speaker 3:

Black Tony, white Tony my kids love white.

Speaker 4:

Tony.

Speaker 3:

Shit, I ain't. He's a good dude.

Speaker 4:

We went over to his house and that motherfucker had a goddamn swimming pool so big he had like Three pumps on his head.

Speaker 3:

And you know his son, his son died right. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

And my daughter Went over there with him. He had a motherfucking Water slide and shit. One of them kids Loved that motherfucker. Now they don't want. They love calling him White Tony, white Tony.

Speaker 1:

So he got a pickleball court. He does, man. We got to get Tone on the podcast. Where's he at now?

Speaker 3:

Tone doesn't do social media. He don't do nothing.

Speaker 4:

Where's he at now? He right here. He's right by Glendale Prep High School.

Speaker 3:

He's super 83rd, 83rd 83rd is like. Pinnacle.

Speaker 2:

Peak or something right.

Speaker 3:

He's super religious now, too right he is. They got three kids together. They're volunteering at CCV. I got to see you, tony.

Speaker 4:

My kids love that man.

Speaker 1:

I took my kids over to that house.

Speaker 4:

They were like he got a water slide. They were like the thing had a tunnel and everything you should see the new house he has, oh my.

Speaker 3:

God, he got a cold plunge inside. He got a sauna inside. He got a rock climbing wall inside. He got a pickle plunge inside. You got a sauna inside. You got a rock climbing wall inside. You got a pickleball court inside.

Speaker 1:

Tony.

Speaker 3:

I'm coming over, I'm coming to see you, white Tony Still got a fat boy hey, listen, I heard you wanted to get his fat boy, oh yeah, do we still have. He got it all. He got a what's it? El Cat or whatever El.

Speaker 4:

Cat, oh, the Hell Cat.

Speaker 3:

El Cat yep, and then he got everything.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he wanted it. I know Bosco was like let me have that fat boy.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, what was it? The Borgette no.

Speaker 4:

Something. Yeah, he let you drove his Porsche.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, I drove that once too. Oh my God, man, that's so fast.

Speaker 3:

I was about to open 115. Then that was Now Bosco told me. Bosco said I threw the thing. I was at 80-something miles an hour. I was still in third gear that junk's scary.

Speaker 1:

Hey that man dog Shout out to Tone.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I mean he had all this stuff, but it's like he didn't really care about it, hey, and.

Speaker 1:

Big Tone, big Tone's still playing, playing. Oh yeah, yeah, he played, we got, we got, was he over?

Speaker 3:

there, yeah, so we won the first three games today.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, we're gonna get big tone here, yeah, he'll be,

Speaker 3:

on, he would do a good job yeah so they got you gotta go to the back gym if you lose. So he's always the last one to leave the gym and he's just staring at you. Right, you just lost, so you need to go to the back gym. And he's like don't tell me where to go, so he goes back there and they come back. We win again. Right, we won three or four games. The first three or four games we won. They finally beat us. I didn't say a word to him, didn't say one word to him about us winning, and I'm like why are you staring at me?

Speaker 2:

right now. Did he tell you his stats? Why are you looking at me? Yeah, he's come from your gym to our gym and next thing you know he's just looking at you. Like you know, I got three wins up there.

Speaker 1:

How many you got yeah right, oh, come on man.

Speaker 4:

You can't carry on.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know that.

Speaker 4:

Jerry used to call a foul for no reason.

Speaker 3:

Oh man, Tone has actually gotten, a lot better. Oh Way, way, way, way better.

Speaker 1:

He looks such a cool dude now. Yeah, way, way better. I used to hate that dude.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no one liked to play with him. No.

Speaker 2:

Because they would be on y'all's team and y'all would always use him and he would just set screens, screens, screens, screens.

Speaker 1:

Man, I almost Let me tell you Illegal screens.

Speaker 4:

I wonder what they like Last time we played I can remember playing with Tony. It took us about an hour and a half to finish the game.

Speaker 3:

For sure.

Speaker 1:

Oh, because it was arguing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I hated playing with him back in the day.

Speaker 2:

I wanted to fight him. He threw a screen on me one time, an hour and a half.

Speaker 4:

I don't care about the screens, it's just an hour and a half. Dude this game. Look, you go to the bathroom, go down the street, come back.

Speaker 2:

they be, on the same game.

Speaker 1:

Y'all still playing and that's why y'all played the seven. Huh, we played the seven Back then, we played the 11.

Speaker 3:

15 and 11 is way too much.

Speaker 1:

Game seven man, we played the 11.

Speaker 2:

Seven or nine is good. Now we played the 11 back in the day.

Speaker 4:

Get it over quick and man, he would get the ball Because even if you played until 15.

Speaker 1:

You played like seven or nine?

Speaker 4:

No, the first game was 15. The rest of them was 11.

Speaker 1:

But still even some people are going to sit there and relax.

Speaker 3:

Then, once you get to eight or nine, you're going to turn it up a little bit. No, we go game first point, we're balling.

Speaker 2:

Game seven let's go that forces you to play defense.

Speaker 1:

You play hard, you've got to play. It causes people to See.

Speaker 4:

I did at the church. They used to play at the church. They had you on the clock.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Bethany.

Speaker 2:

We ran a clock for a little bit.

Speaker 4:

That's on the clock and then at Tempe, yeah, they put you on the clock over there. And the only thing I like about that them motherfuckers get a two-point lead and they're going to stall.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy, for sure, that's what I said. They play four corners with you, you said Sunday morning Well. I know you play Sunday morning, but do you play in the league? Where's the league at on Sunday, scottsdale? And you play Wednesday, wednesday. How are your knees?

Speaker 3:

feeling. The only thing that hurts is my back after oh man you should talk to me, I got something for you. I'm sure you do.

Speaker 4:

No.

Speaker 3:

I'm serious though. I got something stretch my hamstrings a lot. I get in the pool early in the morning. That helps. I know I always see you in the gym, so but it's still like, I'm still all right, like at 52, I still can hang in there.

Speaker 1:

Dude. No, hey, that's why I said that.

Speaker 4:

Look, I'm serious, I got some tea. Okay, I don't like tea.

Speaker 3:

It don't matter what, hey Jobin pushing his tea man.

Speaker 1:

I love this tea. Bro, bring the tea next week. I have heard a couple people that he gave it to and like I know the ailments and stuff man, I have seen it with my own eyes.

Speaker 4:

I'll give it to you, you old school bro, my boy, my boy, I'll give it to Bosco next time I see him.

Speaker 3:

He said you don't like tea, I don't like tea.

Speaker 4:

I don't like tea, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2:

Just mix it up with a little honey and drink it.

Speaker 4:

Yep, okay, done with it. All right, do it before you go to bed.

Speaker 1:

I hear that.

Speaker 4:

Wake up in the morning and everything you got to be gone.

Speaker 2:

Love it it fights off old age.

Speaker 3:

all that I want to try this tee too, you ain't old, you ain't old about that.

Speaker 1:

You do got to be over 50.

Speaker 4:

No, you don't have to be 50. You ain't old yet. We just put 50 on.

Speaker 1:

What elements do you have? Hey man, I'm already 50 and I'm on my knees.

Speaker 4:

Man, look, I took this stuff, bro. My shoulders Felt better. Hey, guess what Wait, Eh Steve ain't going to take the tea, steve will take it. I told Steve about the tea.

Speaker 3:

Did you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you gave it to.

Speaker 4:

Isaac.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Isaac didn't even take it.

Speaker 4:

How's Isaac doing? Oh, he's cool man.

Speaker 1:

I know he has like he has, oh man.

Speaker 4:

Oh his back. Yeah, he said he gave some tea and he wouldn't even take it. I'm going to stick to my doctor Get my tea back. I'm going to get it back, though. No, but I gave it to my daughter for shin splints. She love it.

Speaker 2:

I thought you had to be over 50, man, give me some of that damn tea.

Speaker 1:

I don't care, you don't run. I'm a hater, you are a hater.

Speaker 4:

I don't like shit from Texas. You are a hater. I can't mess with Texas, it's funny because don't mess with Texas.

Speaker 2:

This is usually the outro I was just talking to someone we talk over it I was driving through Texas one time he was talking about how they whooped your hotel In. Where In everything, who the dude I talked to'm going?

Speaker 1:

to get one.

Speaker 4:

What dude is that?

Speaker 1:

What's his?

Speaker 4:

name.

Speaker 3:

I'll tell you who he is.

Speaker 4:

Anyway, the only one that can claim that they whooped us and everything, is that piece of shit son-in-law of mine, and he wasn't lying about that. That's something that whooped us and everything.

Speaker 1:

Who was that?

Speaker 4:

He played linebacker for all. Oh boy, that was a close one.

Speaker 3:

That's awesome.

Speaker 4:

Anyway, but he played linebacker for him and he was cold. Yeah, sure he was. He liked to think he married my daughter and I had to muster up enough strength to go to the wedding.

Speaker 1:

Akron zone Jed.

Speaker 2:

Ray Dunn, sir Nice to see you over here. Dog man Goodrich Junior High School, goodrich. It had to be about 15 years, listen, yeah, tell them.

Speaker 1:

Tell them about the white Beretta.

Speaker 3:

Listen, I told y'all, we used to sit up here.

Speaker 1:

Man what we would sit up here yeah.

Speaker 4:

But that was a cold card.

Speaker 1:

Here's the question that Beretta was a cold card.

Speaker 4:

It wasn't even a regular Beretta.

Speaker 1:

It was the pretty with the spoilers and stuff, beretta. Now here's the thing, this is the one thing I question them for. But we were all kids. It was me, who all was I. It was me, you. I don was I. It was me, you, I don't know. If it was like Keith DeJuan, we would all walk over to his house right from our house. We would go to the Agora on Sunday, jay chilling with his girlfriend. Shout out to the high school girlfriend. I ain't going to say no names over here, but anyway, I'm sitting up here thinking like now this is my adult self. I'm like man, that's a beautiful young lady. Why is he taking us to? Because that, I mean, this is our boy. He really just taking us. He left his girlfriend, just you know, for his homies. I mean, she knew like, oh hey, I'm going to the club with the fellas and stuff. So I just want to thank you Because I was like how in the hell I wouldn't have left my chick to go hang out? We was knuckleheads, dog.

Speaker 3:

We was all cool.

Speaker 1:

We went to a little teenage bar called the Agora.

Speaker 3:

Listen the White Beretta story, the Akron police dudes that we know from like the West Side.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

They would pull me over every time just to see who I had in the car. Right, they would pull me, man, six, seven times. Pull me over down by down at Akron when I was at going to the University of Akron yeah, they'd pull me over, walk up slow like we just want to see who you have in the car dog listen, right, listen it's.

Speaker 2:

Chick right hey dog.

Speaker 1:

I still remember. And we'll be sitting downstairs like damn man. We're trying to go to the corner. What's this cat doing? He had to handle business. Dog, dog, hey we appreciate you. Hey, you know you got to come back for real, we got to get you back. Oh man, we got to get you back. Oh man, we gotta get you back With.

Speaker 3:

Tone Yep.

Speaker 1:

I'ma tell Tone.

Speaker 3:

Let's do it.

Speaker 1:

Cause I'ma tell, i'ma tell Tone that you came on.

Speaker 3:

Cause, I know, cause he's scared to come on. Nah man, we'll do it.

Speaker 1:

Nah, tone will come on man.

Speaker 3:

Cause usually dog.

Speaker 1:

We just all yeah. I love you guys Once again this was brought to you as Joe's favorite sponsor Mike's Harder Lemonade, Harder Lemonade Pass.

Speaker 4:

The second can, that's right.

Speaker 1:

You good, I'm good. All right, y'all we out of here Peace, baby Peace.

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