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For Fun: Brainrot Quiz and Questions about Jesus' Humanity (#94: Dangerous Life)
In an attempt at a more lighthearted episode, Nate Williams and the Dangerous Life Team take a brainrot quiz (basically, Gen Z and Gen Alpha slang). Then, they ask questions about Jesus being human and what that must've been like for those around him.
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All right, y'all, before we really get started with our topic for today, which is asking different questions about Jesus being human and did he do certain things? Because he could perform miracles and he could, you know, turn stones into food, and we'll get into all those kind of what did Jesus do as a human kind of questions in just a little bit, but before we get there, we're going to have a Brain Rock quiz for the team. With me we have Zeke, justin Blake, mariah Mackenzie and Isaac, and John Isaac.
Speaker 1:And John Isaac yes, the newest member of the team we're going to have a Brain Rock quiz, and if you don't know what Brain Rock is, it's basically Gen Z or Gen Alpha slang, and so we're going to see how good our group does, and then we'll roll into the main topic of the episode. All right, zeke, are we ready? I'm ready. When you are, okay, let's roll.
Speaker 3:All right, Same one. Brain Rock quiz. Fill in the blank edition. If you get seven out of seven, you are a.
Speaker 4:Sigma Number one, sticking out your giot for the blank. Okay, I'm going with homies.
Speaker 5:I was going to say similar boys for the boys.
Speaker 1:For the boys, for the homies.
Speaker 6:Okay, justin, that would be sticking out your gat for the Rizzler Yep. He's right.
Speaker 1:You're so skibbity You're so skibbity, you're so fanatical. Stop, stop, stop.
Speaker 3:We got others.
Speaker 1:All right, Zeke, go on that is the correct answer.
Speaker 3:If you said the Rizzler, you got skibbity. Yes, M58 at 16 years old am I blank?
Speaker 6:What the heck? I don't even know that one.
Speaker 7:I'm 58 at 16 years old and I'm Am I cooked? Oh, I'm cooked. Yeah, Am I cooked? Let's go. Yeah, I'm cooked. Yeah, I'm cooked. Did you know that? If you said cooked.
Speaker 3:you are goaded, Good job.
Speaker 6:What the blank? I know that one.
Speaker 7:Oh, this is easy, frick.
Speaker 5:What the heck.
Speaker 6:No, Erm what the sigma.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Erm what the sigma, I did not know that one.
Speaker 4:What is sigma? What did y'all?
Speaker 3:do. If you said sigma, you are correct. Number four you're so skee-bitty, you're so blank, Easy, Hot Ooh that was close.
Speaker 4:Is it hot? Hot that's close. Is it hot? I don't know, I don't know, this is bad.
Speaker 6:Do you want to?
Speaker 7:take a guess. You're so skibby here. I don't know, I know it. Go for it, justin. Toilet or something. You're so toilet.
Speaker 6:You're so skibby, you're so phantom tax.
Speaker 7:No, it's, you're so popular.
Speaker 4:Nope you. If you said phantom, oh dang, justin, I was thinking I was thinking of the song Blake.
Speaker 7:I think we gotta take I'm a step closer from you and give it to Justin.
Speaker 1:I'm a step closer to being a single Blake, so currently, it's uh.
Speaker 3:Blake 3, justin 4 so you're so popular, I was thinking of the song number 5. Boy, it's just blank.
Speaker 7:Mackenzie. I was thinking of a song Number five Boy, it's Just Blank. Mackenzie. I was like any guesses?
Speaker 4:No, this stuff is so bad.
Speaker 5:I don't know, this is harder than Wordle.
Speaker 4:Boy, it's Just, I don't know, Bad.
Speaker 2:Sauce.
Speaker 4:I don't know it's bad.
Speaker 7:Huh.
Speaker 4:Justin or.
Speaker 5:Blake.
Speaker 7:If it's.
Speaker 2:Mariah, any guesses?
Speaker 8:I don't know. It's not Riz. I don't know.
Speaker 7:Boy, it's just Kaisenat. Boy, it's just Kaisenat either that or like it sounds like it's meant to be kind of bad and if it's bad, it's typically Ohio. Boy, it's just Ohio. I don't know. Let's do, boy, it's Kaisenat. What's your answer? I guess I'll say that too, it's just Ohio. No, no, no, I don't know.
Speaker 6:Let's do Boy, it's Kaisenat. That's definitely not what's your answer. I guess I'll say that too. Boy, it's just Kaisenat, if I was right.
Speaker 3:It's alcohol. What?
Speaker 6:Number six I already know that one I can't talk, I'm blank.
Speaker 7:Okay, here's the next one Because these might be inappropriate. He'll edit it out. Is it edging?
Speaker 6:I'm drunk. I bet it's edging.
Speaker 3:If you said mewing Dang, y'all suck. Finally, number seven.
Speaker 6:I blank all of you.
Speaker 2:I edge all of you. It sounds like you're the inappropriate one.
Speaker 7:That's a brain rot term, that's a brain rot term. That's is go. That's a brain rot term. That's Blake's favorite. I Ohio, I'm scared. Phantom tax, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Hey, hold on Time out. I don't think it's repeating any of them. Do you want to explain to Mackenzie what edging is? No, I would love to.
Speaker 8:I don't know if you can, knows what that is? Just give me a general.
Speaker 1:Just whisper it in her ear. It can happen after the episode, all right.
Speaker 2:Go on. Oh, what's y'all's guess? I don't know. I don't think they're repeating any of the words by the way, I'm going to guess.
Speaker 6:Edge, I edge all of you.
Speaker 8:It's not that.
Speaker 7:I don't think it's not I kyson I riz all of you.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I riz all of you. I riz all of you.
Speaker 2:It could be. That is that your guess, yeah, okay it's mog what's that?
Speaker 7:mogging when you mog somebody, okay, how do I put this?
Speaker 4:I'm not a singer. What a definition when you mog somebody? No, no, no, okay, I'm trying to figure out like think about it.
Speaker 7:if, like you, randy Moss, someone what is that Not in the sense? Of like catching a football over somebody, but you mog on them. So mogging is like you beat them at it, dunking on them. No, it's kind of like you're like you show them flexing. No man of God is not. This says it's a man of God.
Speaker 6:What is mog and slant. It still says man of.
Speaker 1:God, okay, alright, zeke, was that the quiz? I got one more. That's one that I want being more physically attracted than others.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like you're better than.
Speaker 1:Let's go ahead with it Okay.
Speaker 7:Alright, last one.
Speaker 2:Brain rock quiz.
Speaker 3:If you get six out of six, your brain is cooked. Number one what is the practice of good tongue posture?
Speaker 6:Mewing. Yeah, it's mewing.
Speaker 3:Mewing. If you got mewing, you are a sigma. Yes, number two what is the term for someone who can pull any girl easily? Rizzler.
Speaker 6:Rizzler. Bruh, that's goaded, bruh, that's goaded.
Speaker 3:If you got the Rizzler, you are correct. Number three what is the name of someone who is better and more masculine than an alpha?
Speaker 4:Oh, I got it. I got it Sigma.
Speaker 3:Sigma, bro, I did that one Number four, who is the leader of the TikTok Rizz party.
Speaker 7:Kai Sinat. Oh yeah, it's Kai.
Speaker 2:Sinat, I don't think so.
Speaker 7:I think it's.
Speaker 3:Kaisenat Taylor Swift. Do you know it? I saw it earlier. If you said blue tie kid, you are correct. I've never heard that. Who said what? The sigma for the first time? Oh, I have no idea. Every annoying kid at the same time.
Speaker 7:What the sigma? Kaisenat? That was my guess. Oh, annoying kid. At the same time, what the Sigma? It's Squidward and final the meme. So the AI generated voice.
Speaker 6:What the Sigma? Yeah, what the Sigma.
Speaker 7:Yeah, it was the first ever meme of that. It's an AI generated Squidward.
Speaker 2:What the Sigma? I think this is the last one.
Speaker 3:Streamer is the skinniest and doesn't like food at all, it's avocado, it's queso, queso.
Speaker 2:It's queso Never heard of him.
Speaker 6:He's hilarious, it's queso.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 6:By the way, it's the opposite he's a big old boy, so for those of you who, oh boy, all right.
Speaker 1:So for those of you who managed to make it through all that, that is some Gen Z slang for you, and or Gen Alpha vocabulary, whatever. But all right, let's roll into the topic for today, which is Jesus's humanity. Now, jesus being fully God, fully man meant that Total Sigma. Oh boy Meant that he could do certain things that we can't, and so do we have any Jesus-related questions, like any questions about how he lived or things you're curious about, with him being Jesus on earth?
Speaker 6:Well, this is, I guess I'd have to say, my first question. If Jesus could walk on water, could he also swim on land? I guess that is my first question, mr Williams, what do you have to say about that?
Speaker 7:I would have died if Nate would have went. I'll give you one better. Why Jesus?
Speaker 4:When you say swim, do you mean like he's like half, like in Minecraft, like he's half and half in the earth swimming, or like just on top of it?
Speaker 7:Yeah, what does it look like?
Speaker 6:How do you think swimming is? Is he floating? Is he swimming or?
Speaker 7:is he half in the land?
Speaker 6:It's just kind of like he's in the land.
Speaker 7:It's kind of like he's doing the power strokes, so is he leaving a hole as he goes.
Speaker 4:Like a plow? No, it just moves like the pixels move.
Speaker 6:Oh, so here's the better question, because that's the opposite of what Jesus did. That could be what the Antichrist does Just saying opposite of what jesus did.
Speaker 7:That could be what the antichrist does, just saying all right.
Speaker 1:Moving on from that, one one thing I was curious about jesus obviously high character, you could say perfect character. There were probably people who were interested in jesus romantically. Now, obviously, obviously he couldn't get married. That wasn't why he was on earth and all the rest of it. But you have to imagine, let's say, you're a wealthy father and you want someone good for your available daughter, like you'd imagine. Hey, jesus, you know you're probably not making a ton of money, have a lot of stability being a traveling rabbi, traveling speaker. So I'll set you up. You're a good man, you enjoy life with my daughter. It may be arranged marriage or whatever. I wonder how Jesus handled situations in that area of life.
Speaker 6:I just kind of picture like they, you know, they kind of do the offer like hey, Jesus, you know, you have all this money if you marry my daughter, and then just cue the Drake meme where he's going like nah, the hotline bling, you know.
Speaker 1:Jesus doing that move? I bet Jesus did.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, would they have not been similar to like? You wouldn't have just asked him because people thought he was a prophet? Are you saying, like before he started his ministry? Yeah, so think about it, he started his ministry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so think about it. Jesus was a young man going through the, I guess, what we would consider young adult college age type, years before he began his official ministry. So you got to know he was, at least on the surface it seemed like he was available, right. So I'm wondering how he handled those situations to let people down easy?
Speaker 6:I think I've already answered that question.
Speaker 1:Yes, you gave an answer.
Speaker 7:I would really love to believe he would like kind of do like what you do and you could do like that, like that smile, nod, and he'd be like I'm going to answer your question, but look over there and like, make him look, and then when they turn back, he's like yeah, run away runs away, or he just disappears, I don't know so those are the kind of things I'm wondering jesus being human, the situations he encountered it could have been like the situation where they're trying to throw him off a cliff and he's just like I'm good and then just walks through the crowd.
Speaker 2:He just walks away and that's kind of.
Speaker 7:I've never thought about that. So every time I hear that'm like were they screaming at him Like they had every intent to throw him off this cliff and he just goes? No, he just walks through the crowd.
Speaker 2:What do you think happened in that situation? I don't know.
Speaker 6:Well, he didn't fall off a cliff.
Speaker 7:Well, he was never thrown off a cliff, Justin. That's what.
Speaker 6:I'm saying he didn't fall off the cliff. That's what I'm saying he walked away, so he didn't fall off the cliff.
Speaker 2:That was the point if everyone's surrounding you around a cliff and they're about to push you off it's hard to tell sometimes yeah, you really had us convinced there dude you were doing really good.
Speaker 7:You were way too in character right there.
Speaker 1:Mariah, you, you have something.
Speaker 8:Something I've always thought about is when he was more of a younger child, like, obviously, young children are known to misbehave, but I always thought that did Jesus ever misbehave or not ever?
Speaker 7:Did Jesus come home past curfew?
Speaker 2:Yeah, did Jesus have a curfew? Did he have a?
Speaker 7:curfew? Yeah, did Jesus have a curfew? Ooh, did he have a curfew? Those are great questions.
Speaker 2:Remember, he was left behind by his mom and dad. Oh, they lost him, yeah, and they get back and they're like Jesus, what were you doing? Why didn't you, why'd you stay behind her? Blah, blah, blah and he's like I'm doing my father's will woman. So there, I'm doing my father's will woman, so there's plenty of times.
Speaker 1:Justin.
Speaker 6:Just kind of imagine like the thoughts is going through Mary and Joseph's head. Just like there's no way I'm getting into heaven now, I done. Lost a son of God.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it's interesting because obviously in the Old Testament we hear the words honor your father and your mother. But Jesus was perfect. So I wonder how raising him through the teenage years was how often he corrected them, how often he said hey y'all, actually you're wrong, but he had to say it super respectfully. Right To honor them? That's just wild to me. Right to honor them? That's just wild to me.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's also the situation of, like all, honoring God is above honoring anything else, right? So you know, if it came down to a choice of between honoring God and honoring your parents, wouldn't you just choose God?
Speaker 1:I don't think those two need to be said against each other.
Speaker 2:They're never in conflict with each other you think? Never. So I guess it would mean like what do you mean by the word honor bingo?
Speaker 1:That's honor and obey. There's overlap, but they're not synonyms. So sometimes you can have earthly parents that will ask you to do wrong, misguided or sinful things, and in fact it honors them to hold them to a higher calling as mother and father, and that sometimes means you don't follow through with what they say. But that's because they're abusing the office of mom and dad and so you are recognizing that, but that's not dishonoring them.
Speaker 2:John Isaac take notes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, john Isaac, you hold your mom and dad accountable, but yeah, things like that. So just very interesting. Any other thoughts in this realm, Jesus'?
Speaker 8:humanity.
Speaker 7:Do you think if him and Joseph ever got into it, he'd like hit Joseph with? Well, you're not my dad, I'm like going to walk away.
Speaker 1:That's brutal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're not my dad, I don't know, I thought you would honor him, that's tough.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he ever hit Joseph with those words.
Speaker 2:Wasn't Joseph believed to have died when Jesus was at a young age, or do we know? I don't think we know there's going to be tradition and things like that, but I'm not sure he at least wasn't around during his ministry, right? No, I don't believe so. At least we never hear about him, I don't believe so that's, another thing too.
Speaker 7:Do you think Jesus at a young age? Did he hang out with kids his age?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I imagine that's why he had cousins, because you know how kids talk and siblings.
Speaker 7:Yeah, but I mean did Jesus actually partake in the things that they did? If a kid, for instance, back in, then I guess they played with sticks. If a kid's stuck a stick up his nose, jesus is like I'm not going to do that. That's kind of dumb.
Speaker 1:You know? Also, when did Jesus have his full repertoire of miracles? So let's say, as a teenager, you know someone breaks their leg and he's on the spot. They're somewhere remote.
Speaker 2:When did he do his first miracle? Or just so the weddings? Sure, that's recorded, but he's on the spot.
Speaker 1:They're somewhere remote. When did he do his first miracle? I thought it was at the wedding, so the wedding's sure that's recorded, but like if someone broke his leg, you're off somewhere remote. Could Jesus as like an 11-year-old be like? You're healed now?
Speaker 2:I feel like my answer would be he didn't. The only thing I have to back that up is all the people in his hometown like rejected him. So I like I feel like they would be like well, why didn't you do this when you were younger? If you could do healings and stuff now, I feel like that would be a pretty good case for them right to say, well, we grew up with this kid. He wasn't doing miracles and stuff then, and they may reject him for that reason.
Speaker 1:So I don't know maybe people are just haters that's true. No prophets liked his hometown all right now let's think about brothers and sisters. What do y'all think it was like growing up with Jesus as your brother?
Speaker 4:If you're Catholic, you don't believe he had any. Yeah, that's true, we're not, okay, my bad.
Speaker 7:No Catholics are listening to us Nah.
Speaker 4:Also on the honoring your mother and father thing. If you're Catholic you don't believe Mary ever sinned, so he wouldn't have had a problem.
Speaker 1:I guess he'd just have to have those conversations with Joseph.
Speaker 7:Why can't you be like Mom?
Speaker 1:That would be tough to have a perfect mother and a perfect son, and then you're the dad.
Speaker 2:He'd be, like what did I do to deserve this? That could lead to a lot of stress, and stress makes you die earlier in life, maybe, and he potentially died earlier in life.
Speaker 5:But Mary wasn't sinless yeah, she wasn't.
Speaker 2:Well, there went my theory.
Speaker 1:But anyways, all right, jesus is your brother, we are Protestants, so Jesus is your brother. What do you?
Speaker 2:think that was like. Probably I'm not going to say anything. It probably.
Speaker 1:Why don't you share?
Speaker 2:No, that wasn't a good joke.
Speaker 7:It probably would be like being friends with you. You get standing ovations.
Speaker 1:You know what, blake? Why don't you just, can it?
Speaker 3:All right, Justin.
Speaker 6:You're always good at everything you touch. Excuse me.
Speaker 2:I'm speaking now.
Speaker 6:I was shushing, Blake, Don't tell me to get close. Shush, Okay. So what I was going to say before Mr Ticho rudely interrupted? Also, I just butchered your last name but that's okay.
Speaker 7:Why would you sell them my last name? Anyways, now they know who I am.
Speaker 1:No one knows your last name, but that's okay. Why would you sell them?
Speaker 6:my last name. Anyways, now they know who I am, I tag you on Instagram. Oh, dang it yeah way to go. But I'd imagine, coming from a middle child, you're going to get constant middle child energy all the time I see that yeah. Because Jesus is going to be the tippy top, of course.
Speaker 2:You're always middle. What about for the younger children? The youngest child?
Speaker 6:Still middle child.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, I'm not saying you will literally be the middle child.
Speaker 6:But you're going to have that middle child energy of like.
Speaker 7:Don't even. I've been friends with you for ten years. I'm not going to let you sit here and pretend like you've got middle child energy. You, literally your family, you are the golden apple of your family.
Speaker 6:Oh no.
Speaker 1:That moves my head, no, dude. No, you are. Say more. So he's like the golden child, dude 100%.
Speaker 7:I can't name any other family that will literally go out of his way to have seven different birthdays for him and show up to every single play.
Speaker 1:Like you get to like justin birthdays. What are you talking about, justin? So maybe we should ask your siblings what it's like to grow up with you for real.
Speaker 6:Well, one of them, you would have to do a seance nate, so you just let me know when you get the answers to that oh, we can do that as well even pull that card.
Speaker 1:You were you were we have a golden child.
Speaker 6:It's a fact.
Speaker 1:Don't pull the Anyways, Mackenzie. We saved the conversation. What thoughts did you have, Mackenzie? Please help us.
Speaker 5:I was just going to say. I feel like everybody always says like they feel like they would get overlooked, overlooked. But I feel like Jesus would be such a cool sibling to have, because he'd be so loving Like you couldn't. I feel like it would be so hard to hate him. You know what I mean. Like well people did he probably would get a lot of the attention maybe, but in the same like he gives you so much.
Speaker 3:I don't know, you know it would be like you'd be really close yeah I could see it both ways I got all the attention he'd
Speaker 4:just be like I love you I feel like jesus would have let me hang out with him and his friends probably when he was younger yeah, you think so yeah, probably.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have a question about the type of goodness that jesus was as a kid. Was he the annoying goody, two shoes tattletale type of good, or was he the chill, chill, cool kind of good of just you know?
Speaker 7:I don't understand how he would be a tattletale, because he would know everything.
Speaker 1:Well, if someone disobeys mom and dad, he's got to let them know that the siblings are not listening to them. He would be the perfect type of dad.
Speaker 5:I think he would do it subtly. Man, it'd be a real shame if somebody broke mom and dad's rules and then look at his siblings, like not go straight to mom and dad, but just be like just kind of convicting them if someone killed the family cow
Speaker 5:no, that is not just calmly like more poetic not passive, aggressive, but just like letting them know, like I know you can tell them did he flip the tables at home before he ever? Did Even as a young child, not passive, aggressive, but just like letting them know like I know Did he.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can tell them.
Speaker 7:Did he flip the tables at home before he ever did in the temple? Because he already predetermined not predetermined, but he like. He knew that he was going to have to die on the cross. Do you think he ever like? Just like that passive aggressiveness where someone's like?
Speaker 1:he has a friend, he's like I. That passive aggressiveness where someone's like, uh, like he has a friend, he's like I would never hurt your trust, and he goes. He's like just kind of like yeah, yeah, okay. Or alternatively, now this gets a little dark, but let's say he had jesus here, so so let's say you have, he has a friend and he knows, trying to be careful in that words, he has a friend and he knows the friend let's say he doesn't have the longest to live.
Speaker 1:Let's say there's trying to be careful in that words. He has a friend and he knows the friend. Let's say doesn't have the longest to live. Let's say there's going to be an accident or there's going to be something five, ten years from now, and and and so then he's talking with his friend as a kid and the kid's like oh, I can't wait, when I get older I'm gonna do da, da, da, da da. And Jesus is sitting there like, hmm, anyways, knowing people's futures.
Speaker 7:And that's when he hits them with a. I love you that kind of goes into the.
Speaker 2:Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:He knows, what's going to happen to people?
Speaker 2:But I mean, on the one hand, my initial thought would be like oh, jesus would be like calm and collective and like more modern word, stoic, but at the same time, like we also have, because he knows what's going to happen and, like he's, he'd be prepared for it, whereas we are caught off guard sometimes. But then you have accounts where jesus weeps for, even though he's literally about to bring the guy back to life, like why was he weeping in that scene with mary and martha? I'm asking a question why?
Speaker 8:Why was he weeping?
Speaker 1:Sometimes your questions take a moment to think through. I can't chat. Gpt spit out an answer, so that's good. I think he can weep, even if he knows how things are going to be, because one he loves them and sees pain and their suffering, but also, with the attribute of empathy, he can also feel their pain as well, when you know what someone's going through. So it's like all of us at a funeral for a Christian you know you're going to see him again.
Speaker 1:You know the end of the story. I said funeral for a Christian, Blake, so you know what's going to happen. But you can still cry real tears at the funeral because it's still heartbreaking in the moment, Even though it's like I know I'm going to see you again. So I imagine that's how it was for Jesus.
Speaker 2:But, forgive me the few seconds it took for me to think through things you never think. What do you think?
Speaker 1:Also along the lines of some of those questions. And what's going to happen, I wonder, when Jesus first learned he was going to have to die on the cross? Because, think about it, when he's like a little baby, there are some aspects of adulthood he's just not going to be thinking about. At that time he's a baby, but then at some point, you know that was revealed to him in some supernatural way. That would have just been very interesting to be like oh, this is, I'm on earth and I'm doing these things, stuff like that, isaac.
Speaker 4:We keep saying that Jesus, y'all are like well, jesus knew everything, but what if he didn't Like? What if he was limited, like you know, he was humbled or whatever, and he only knew what God told him. So maybe Lazarus was going to die, but he didn't know like his best friend Johnny was going to die in five years because, you know, god didn't tell him.
Speaker 1:Is that from?
Speaker 4:that key? What is it called?
Speaker 1:Kenosis emptying.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so Isaac. That brings up a great question.
Speaker 2:Jesus knew a lot. Just how much did he know? And so that's a great point, that maybe he didn't know everyone's futures. Maybe he purposefully limited himself in some ways. I'd imagine that's a real possibility, kind of not had to, but in a sense they had to to be fully human, because if he just went around and he knew literally everything, we don't know everything. We're limited in our Speak for yourself. Okay, my bad. Most of us don't know everything, so like isn't that part of being human? I don't know. Is that a requirement?
Speaker 1:True.
Speaker 4:Being able to trust God Part of being human is like Trust in God. But also.
Speaker 1:With some of that divine nature, he could do miracles as well.
Speaker 7:We also have to remember, though, that he is, he's not just a human, he's God in the flesh.
Speaker 4:But he didn't know certain things, like he didn't know the day or the time he'd come back, but that's speculation. I've heard two answers.
Speaker 7:Well, I've heard two answers to that he doesn't actually know or it's not for us to know. Well, he says.
Speaker 2:He said I don't know.
Speaker 6:He almost got in a fight on Sunday. It's more just talking to some buddies, but that's okay.
Speaker 1:Justin, we're on a podcast episode.
Speaker 7:He's very touchy. He's running on three hours of sleep oh, that's true, justin.
Speaker 1:We have a lot of patience with you and for you, for you yes we just uh watched a mockumentary last night and we learned about love. It's not patient or kind. Anyways, uh, justin, go on with your thoughts that you were delivering in a peaceful manner.
Speaker 6:Now, I've forgotten. Oh, no, wait, yeah, blake almost got in a fight with the other Sunday school teacher over that topic. So just be careful. Was it a knockout, drag out, fight. He was aggressive Like oh my gosh, this woman was in fear for her life.
Speaker 4:Do I have women teaching Sunday school.
Speaker 7:Yeah, you do Wow.
Speaker 4:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 7:And so she listens to this podcast. Hey, Corey.
Speaker 1:I think all right Anything else along these lines, like knowledge or lack of any other questions or topics, and then I'll move on to the next one.
Speaker 2:Did you want to plead your case on why Jesus knew everything? But he said he didn't.
Speaker 7:I think I don't know. To me he knew so much. There was an aspect. It sounded like the start of a Michael Scott quote I know it's like he knew so much, so therefore he has to know.
Speaker 7:I don't know. I've heard both sides of the argument. I just can't with him, because he predicted so much. He predicted his death. He obviously knew his death. He knew things that no one else knew. So why then do we draw the line whenever he says, well, only the Father knows, but then that would kind of take away like? I've heard arguments where it says that takes away the all-knowingness of Jesus.
Speaker 1:Well, the theological train of thought comes from Philippians and the kenosis term you mentioned earlier. That just he decided this was voluntary, While on earth he limited some of his knowledge. Now, does he ultimately know those things? Yes, but while on earth he kept that from himself. His divine.
Speaker 2:Jesus, as divine, would have known it, but as human, he wouldn't have the same way like we. Could, you know, say the same argument of you know, jesus is God, so does he need food? Well, divinely no, but as a human he does. He needs drinks, he needs sleep, he needs those things. So, as a human, he chose not to know those things, just how he chose to become human and still need to eat and drink and all these things.
Speaker 1:Anything else on these topics, and then I'll move over to what we'll term, off of a pastoral comment earlier, superhero Jesus in a moment, any other thing on knowledge or growing up or childhood. Now this is where people are against me. I'm just curious. We prefaced some of these things before the start of the episode. All right, so Jesus had access to abilities we don't? Okay. So obviously he could create and multiply food, he could heal, he could transport, move quickly, he could walk on water, things like that.
Speaker 1:Just being God, he has certain abilities that we don't. Did he ever use those abilities when no one was looking? All right, here's what I mean. Okay, he has to walk, let's say, a couple miles by himself somewhere. Now could he just be like you know what, beam me up scotty and get to his destination fast with no one looking yes, justin's with me, which kind of concerns me. That's probably a mark against this. And then, okay, let's say, let's say food. He comes home at night very tired, doesn't feel like you know, starting a fire or whatever, uh, boiling water and all the rest of it, and so he's like, all right, no one's around me, I'm just gonna, bam, have some food right there, things like that all right. Does anyone else that he used some of those abilities when no one was looking? Justin?
Speaker 6:I'm just saying, you know, the Book of Mormon does prove the beam me up Scotty theory Because he just went up to heaven and boom was like
Speaker 3:right to.
Speaker 6:America.
Speaker 1:Alright, that did not happen.
Speaker 7:Blake, as a joke, it's funny to think about things like that. But I mean, I always think of, like I think it's Philippians, is it Philippians? Yeah, philippians 2, 3 through 8. And I should pull that up so I can read it verbatim.
Speaker 1:but I think that's a great idea. Okay, where's my phone?
Speaker 2:Under your butt.
Speaker 1:All right, so as Blake is looking up Philippians 2, any other thoughts? When no one was looking, mariah.
Speaker 8:I just don't think that would have happened, just because— Come on, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Y'all have no imagination.
Speaker 8:I didn't say you couldn't, I just said I don't think it happened that seems not serious, it seems silly, like I don't know if that would have been like a thing that went on.
Speaker 1:All right Blake.
Speaker 7:I got it, so I'll start in verse 3. Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, yes, yes. Conceit Rather in humility. Value others above yourself, not looking to your own interests but to the other interests of others. In your relationship with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus. And so what is that mindset? Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage? Rather, he made himself nothing. By taking the very nature of a servant and being made in human likeness and being found in appearance as man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think, like Mariah said, it's kind of funny to think about, but I don't think he really was like into taking shortcuts. I feel like that's kind of shortcutty and he's kind of like, well, I'm here for a purpose, I'm not like got to do it as a human would do it. You know, what I mean, right.
Speaker 1:But think about it with multiplying the bread and the fish.
Speaker 8:But those all served a purpose.
Speaker 1:All those things he made food for people, those point back to God If he's just doing it for himself.
Speaker 5:Like I'm really hungry, I could use an extra dish on this plate.
Speaker 2:I think you know you're wrong when three things happen One, when Justin is immediately on board yes, two, when the Book of Mormon is on board with you.
Speaker 7:Yes, and then three whenever these are the same things that the devil asked him to do. That's very true. That's true. That's a great comment.
Speaker 1:Okay, but also, but hear me out, but hear me out.
Speaker 4:But also Isaac. This sounds like I saw one talk where who's that famous Britain guy with bald hair?
Speaker 7:A lot of Britain people.
Speaker 4:What does he do? He was talking and somebody was like how do you serve a guy that doesn't want you to know stuff or something?
Speaker 8:Does he sound like Winnie the?
Speaker 4:Pooh and he was like that's funny because it was first asked by a snake. Oh, John Lennon, yeah.
Speaker 1:He was Richard Dawkins. Was he talking to Dawkins? I can't remember. It was like a forum or something. Was it Hitchens?
Speaker 2:No, it was the moderator who asked the question, I think.
Speaker 4:This reminds me of that's you, nate. It's funny that you would ask this, because this is naked as RESS.
Speaker 7:It was like a mic drop moment. It was great I watched the clip he sounds like Winie the Pooh, John Lennox he does.
Speaker 2:I've never noticed. I believe it's pronounced Weenie the Pooh. Have you watched too much? Weenie the.
Speaker 6:Pooh.
Speaker 7:It's Weenie, it's not.
Speaker 1:Weenie. All right, the maturity level of the conversation has dropped, but anyways, anything else about Jesus being human and what that must have been like, or being around Jesus, or whatever stage of life Jesus was in.
Speaker 7:What do you think he like? Obviously all that walking. I feel like he'd be in very great, he'd be in really good shape. But why, is he always depicted with like this amazing, like six-pack abs when he's on the cross? Can someone please answer me first off?
Speaker 4:my guess is, he was in phenomenal jesus routine a phenomenal shape what would the perfect man look like, they said.
Speaker 7:That's why they said jesus wasn't like, there wasn't anything like astonishing about him isaiah, because they couldn't see his abs oh, the abs were hidden, I mean isaac with the new interpretation of Isaiah 53.
Speaker 1:It's like the suffering servant. You only think that because you don't see the abs.
Speaker 2:No, don't bring that up To play Nate Advocate or Devil's Advocate, whichever one you want to go with today.
Speaker 7:I like that, but I mean he worked with his hands.
Speaker 2:He was a carpenter before, so I mean like would the average person that day be in good enough shape to have abs? Naturally, it would be my question.
Speaker 7:Probably.
Speaker 2:And he probably ate pretty clean.
Speaker 8:I feel like Jesus would have been. You do so much physical.
Speaker 7:He might have the perfect build to be like a jiu-jitsu master.
Speaker 2:Maybe Grip strength cardio the hair Sure Jesus could have wonesus. I don't know how hair helps you with that I don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not sure where the hair for some reason, people with really long hair in jujitsu just dominate.
Speaker 7:Is that why you keep yours long? I don't dominate anything, I'm just lazy, can't get a haircut all right, anything else jesus related.
Speaker 1:This is the time to ask some of these questions. They're like you get curious about justin questions. They're like you get curious about justin. Okay, all right. So while I'm already said the mormon thing, while I'm busy being blasted as a heretic, final thing can you imagine how he could prank people? Jesus, with his abilities, could come up with the most legendary pranks ever. Like you go put something in a room and then he like moves it somewhere else and you think, am I going crazy? No, jesus pranked you.
Speaker 2:He wouldn't have.
Speaker 1:So you're saying Jesus had no sense of humor? I didn't say he didn't have sense of humor. That's exactly what you said.
Speaker 2:I don't think he would have deceived people.
Speaker 1:Pranks are funny. God is not a God of deception. Pranks are funny, so you think.
Speaker 5:Jesus was a gaslighter Water into snakes? I think no. That water bottle wasn't in there.
Speaker 1:You know Jesus, I think would have made a great prankster.
Speaker 2:I think he I imagine he probably definitely told jokes or stuff like that or joked around with people. I think that's something.
Speaker 3:I wish we got an account of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't think of one that we get in scriptures where he's cutting up what's one. But I could see oh wait, Sons of Thunder, that's kind of. I could see that being kind of an inside joke, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then his play on words in Matthew 16 about Peter being the rock.
Speaker 2:Hey, easy there.
Speaker 1:Hey.
Speaker 2:That's why he's the pope Like the Dwayne the.
Speaker 5:Rock Johnson.
Speaker 1:Yes, but more the Peter. The Greek word is. Petros, and then I put my car Yep, but anyways, it's just a play on words with a rock and Catholics and Protestants have different interpretations of Matthew 16, that passage. But anyways, yeah, just play on words with rock, which is part of his at least, humor, wit and puns and all the rest of it. But anyways, y'all, I've enjoyed this, even though y'all have called me a heretic.
Speaker 7:I forgive all of you. This is a Jesus-related question. Why did Jesus fight the Aztecs?
Speaker 1:Say that again.
Speaker 6:It was the Mayans in the Book of Mormon.
Speaker 3:They actually call it something different.
Speaker 6:I can't remember what they're called.
Speaker 7:Why did you do?
Speaker 1:that, because that never happened.
Speaker 6:So what he's referring to at the Don't name drop it, Justin. If I say the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, there's about five bajillion of them all over the United States, so I think I'm good.
Speaker 1:We, yeah, we recognize you are referring to them.
Speaker 6:Okay, yes.
Speaker 1:But anyways, we do not subscribe to Catholic theology or Mormon theology. Go ahead.
Speaker 6:Oh no, I don't even want to explain it now. Every time Nate, every time Nate. I don't even want to explain it now. Every time Nate, every time Nate. I don't even want to explain it now. You cut people off. Yeah, I can't wait until that just blows up in your face one day, Because it will Just give it time. I think it just did. Oh no, I don't have near the sass that an angry person coming up to you to debate you. You're pretty sassy.
Speaker 1:Justin, you're very sassy.
Speaker 7:You're very sassy. Well, thank you.
Speaker 1:Anyways, justin with his Mormon theology, any other thoughts? All right, blake, you want to take us home, jesus and his humanity. I hope you all enjoyed the Brain Rock quiz. For those of you who have survived this episode, which is probably going to be like two people, no probably not.
Speaker 2:That's high numbers. I bet Chloe will.
Speaker 7:There's not even two people that listen to our podcast.
Speaker 1:True Blake, you want to take us home.
Speaker 7:I've always pictured my Jesus wearing, like a party tuxedo shirt. Your Jesus.
Speaker 6:How do you?
Speaker 7:picture your Jesus, Justin.
Speaker 6:Well, I like to picture my Jesus with angels' wings singing. Frontrunner for Leonard Skinner.
Speaker 7:I always picture Jesus as a small eight ounce. My bad eight pound.
Speaker 2:Five ounce. We should do an episode on how people perceive Jesus versus how he really is, because I think that's a big thing. That would be huge.
Speaker 7:Yeah, A lot of people in the South think Donald Trump oh my gosh, Donald Trump is Jesus.
Speaker 2:There's a book that just came out recently.
Speaker 8:I think it's interesting how most of the artwork depicted of Jesus is not what he actually would have looked like.
Speaker 2:How would you know? How would you know?
Speaker 8:Yeah, were you there, because in that region of the world, they didn't know. Dark skin, dark hair.
Speaker 1:Mariah Jesus was white. He had blonde hair and blue eyes.
Speaker 4:I've never seen a blonde-headed Jesus. We have one.
Speaker 2:We also have.
Speaker 6:Rob Zombie, jesus, here in our church we do. We have a lot.
Speaker 1:Auburn, jesus is the way I call one of the drawings. But anyways, isaac, do you have any thoughts on blonde-haired, blue-eyed white people? Are they the superior race?
Speaker 7:Isaac, considering you are one.
Speaker 1:No, okay.
Speaker 2:John Ossock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll have to get his thoughts on that. All right, y'all, I hope you've enjoyed some part of this episode.
Speaker 7:There was nothing knowledgeable about it. I would call it a trick.
Speaker 1:This was meant to be a lighthearted fun episode, so, anyways, until next time. We'll talk with you later, thank you.