OVERTHINKING UNDERSTANDING Podcast

Unraveling Emotions: An Introspective Look at Love, Relationships, and Reconnecting With an Ex

November 29, 2023 Viktoriya Moore Season 3 Episode 28
Unraveling Emotions: An Introspective Look at Love, Relationships, and Reconnecting With an Ex
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Unraveling Emotions: An Introspective Look at Love, Relationships, and Reconnecting With an Ex
Nov 29, 2023 Season 3 Episode 28
Viktoriya Moore

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Feelings for an ex-partner: an emotional landmine we've all hesitated to step on. But what happens when the inevitable occurs, and you find yourself caught in the tumultuous web of past love? Join us as we unravel the tangled skein of emotions, examining the real-life experiences of individuals like Tay and Jazz. We dissect the delicate balance required in relationships, the anxiety of reconnecting with an ex, and the potential backlash. We pay particular attention to the crucial role of growth, communication, and respect in a thriving partnership. 

Have you ever been left wondering why your attempts to stir jealousy didn't yield the expected results? We've all been there, nursing our bruised egos, reflecting on what went wrong. We dive into these complex emotions, asking tough questions and seeking elusive answers. We discuss the subtle power that small gestures, like sending a card, can wield in a relationship. We don't shrink from the uncomfortable truth, exploring the heartache that comes with unrequited love and the disappointment of failed manipulative tactics.

Love: a profoundly powerful force that transcends boundaries, yet remains enigmatic and elusive. We open up a thought-provoking discussion on the challenges of self-understanding, the conception of true love, and its reception based on sexual orientation. We scrutinize the limitations of love and respect for the sanctity of others' relationships. We shine a light on the divergent perceptions of relationship dynamics, underscoring that appearances can be deceiving. We wrap up with an introspective look at the struggles of confronting difficult emotions and the immense value of honesty and loyalty. Join us and experience a fresh perspective on love, relationships, and the human heart.

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Feelings for an ex-partner: an emotional landmine we've all hesitated to step on. But what happens when the inevitable occurs, and you find yourself caught in the tumultuous web of past love? Join us as we unravel the tangled skein of emotions, examining the real-life experiences of individuals like Tay and Jazz. We dissect the delicate balance required in relationships, the anxiety of reconnecting with an ex, and the potential backlash. We pay particular attention to the crucial role of growth, communication, and respect in a thriving partnership. 

Have you ever been left wondering why your attempts to stir jealousy didn't yield the expected results? We've all been there, nursing our bruised egos, reflecting on what went wrong. We dive into these complex emotions, asking tough questions and seeking elusive answers. We discuss the subtle power that small gestures, like sending a card, can wield in a relationship. We don't shrink from the uncomfortable truth, exploring the heartache that comes with unrequited love and the disappointment of failed manipulative tactics.

Love: a profoundly powerful force that transcends boundaries, yet remains enigmatic and elusive. We open up a thought-provoking discussion on the challenges of self-understanding, the conception of true love, and its reception based on sexual orientation. We scrutinize the limitations of love and respect for the sanctity of others' relationships. We shine a light on the divergent perceptions of relationship dynamics, underscoring that appearances can be deceiving. We wrap up with an introspective look at the struggles of confronting difficult emotions and the immense value of honesty and loyalty. Join us and experience a fresh perspective on love, relationships, and the human heart.

Support the Show.

Be genuine to yourself and kind to people.

Speaker 1:

What's going on, beautiful people, welcome back to another episode of Overthing Understanding Prycast. I am your host, victoria Morf, and my co-host today is my lovely wife. Introduce yourself, baby.

Speaker 2:

My name is Jasmine. I'm a content creator. Yes, she is. My TikTok name is the Heart Show. V-h-e-a-r-t show. Go, follow me. I post stuff sometimes. Yes, she does.

Speaker 1:

Oh, they look delicious.

Speaker 2:

So I brought you here today to ask you a question about a situation. I don't know if you're familiar with it. You two couple, tay and Jazz, tay and Jazz.

Speaker 1:

Sorry cause she went on got lots. Yes, they used to date, I think, polo G baby woman.

Speaker 2:

I don't know about that, christa. Yes, I'm not familiar with it? Me neither. What's the difference? I used to watch you two couple's love talk. My people were like Domo and Chrissy, yes, and Elan and Tiana. Those were my type of gay lesbian people I follow.

Speaker 1:

I was more like the L word, the real L word, I can't really know them.

Speaker 2:

I was with the dramatic drama shows like New York Girls TV, pandora's Box, stubbill TV. What I was with the two couples. I was watching the two I mentioned earlier. I wanted to ask you about Do I sound clear in the headphones? Say it again.

Speaker 1:

Do I sound clear inside the headphones?

Speaker 2:

Yes, you do I wanted to ask you about our past relationship, how it went when it was transpired off the good stuff, the good transition words. So I guess a quick roundabout story with the couple I brought up earlier was the Jazz and Tay. They dated for a couple of years. They broke up in 2020. And then Jazz started dating someone else, which you know how lesbian couples go, or like gay couples go Exactly, they just mess on top of men's right. Yes, so they eventually, like Jazz and Crystal, broke up. Then Tay and Jazz didn't get back together, but they did like a comeback video over, basically in contact with each other now that type of thing. So, as someone my wife who knows our history, how do you feel about people coming back to get there after years of not dating talking?

Speaker 1:

Just reconnecting or dating. I don't think. I feel like, depending on how the relationship was, you know Some people you don't keep in contact with and some people that you were in a relationship with put you better off experience. Or you're just good friends, like you were in a relationship with a person but you had a genuine friendship connection type bond with that person but out of respect for maybe the next relationship you got moving forward, you don't deal with that person but you have a bond with them. So I feel like it's just all situational dependent and it depends on who you are with, because I can say with myself, if you had a bond with your exes, I wouldn't care for you to talk to them. If we are secure in this and I feel like coming back around dating and being with somebody, is just one of those things.

Speaker 1:

Like they say, it's cliche, but it's meant to be to come back around. That's what I'm talking about. It comes back around. Is that what you have with our relationship? Our relationship, our relationship was? I don't think. Are we being candid? Are we being Are?

Speaker 1:

we over thinking on the side of it, true, I think that our relationship never was supposed to end. I think our relationship did exactly what it was supposed to, and it was take a break and allow growth, but it ended prematurely, it didn't post it. And then the fact that it came to a halt or pause, it was able to give room to growth and we grew in the way that was supposed to. A service term, yeah, but I heard each other. We got to do the growth without being the super extreme toxic face to each other, and I think I would have been more toxic to you.

Speaker 2:

Learning yourself. Learning myself, because it would be things that I'm trying now or things I'm discovering at that age where, if I was still with you at that time, I would have probably heard you do more than me, like, hey, just learn from what I'm doing, you know that type of thing. Instead of like, okay, let's take a break, let's take a break from each other, yeah, and then circle back.

Speaker 1:

True, see, we want to take that break. You said what we want to take that break. Like I was agreeing with you. Like you said, like taking a break and circling back, we would not take that break. It would have been okay two, three days. I miss you. I love you, I apologize, let's make it work, but we 19, 20, 21, like we, of course we're not trying to, of course we're not trying to just separate ourselves from each other. So we want to do it. If it wasn't a stream, I don't if we wasn't put apart, we wouldn't put each other apart.

Speaker 2:

Do you think it's right for? Do you think it's right for when X's break up? Okay, save, you went and got a girlfriend Now and after we broke up for some whatever reason, and the girl from talking crazy, crazy stuff about me, about you, about me Like, oh, you're going to need to go back where, don't ever go back, we'll be together forever. And you basically gave the girlfriend like reassurance that you wouldn't go with her. Go with the X that you were with before, right, mm-hmm. So then you all break up, you go back to the X that you said you wasn't going to get back with, or the girlfriend said that you wanted to get back with. Do you think the now X should be upset at you because you kept telling her and gave her reassurance like I'm not going to go back with her, like, should you feel bad?

Speaker 1:

I mean like if you like, like if you could like. I can only speak for my our experiences Speak for what?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, speak like okay. So like everything I'm saying right, like everything I'm saying right. So, being genuine to myself, I think that yeah, like sometimes you, yeah like if you, if you could look somebody in the face and you know that you have feelings for somebody else and you telling them like, oh, you don't need to worry about that person. But it is like, yeah, I do have this, this kindling, this little in my heart about this person. Then you're lying and you're just trying to like smooth your relationship over, but I can truthfully say that it's never been. I can be like I wasn't worried about you. Like it got to a point where it was just like you was living your life and I was like, okay, she's happy, I don't make her happy, I'm not worried about it. And that was the truth. I'm not worried about you, I wasn't, I wasn't worried about you. So, but it's like maturity, like every like, yeah, it's like you can have.

Speaker 1:

You can tell a person how to feel like you could be mature and say that I still have feelings for someone else. Or, like you, I could be like you are my first love. You like I would love for you like no other. But I'm not weird right now with you and I can be the truth, like I have never cheated on nobody, ever been with, even with you or anybody, no matter the feelings that I've had for you didn't have at a certain point in time. I didn't cheat when nobody, or come up and do anything when nobody was like no, like when I'm here, I'm committed. So, regardless if I do have these feelings and not not acting on, so whatever I do, I say this is not necessarily like I'm trying to embarrass you, but to to ask you a question, to feel like that. Should somebody be mad, that's on them, like they got the right to do whatever they really want to, but that's not gonna stop you from. It was talking from Ben. Again we upset, oh.

Speaker 2:

I was too petty. I don't think it's petty it's not petty but I was for.

Speaker 1:

Our situation is like oh cuz, I went through two people that they knew of me well, one of them didn't know me like the other one did, but like they knew of me, like they knew what they don't. I can say they knew what our relationship was, but they knew we weren't in a relationship. And then you chose to come out. You got everything. You got everything you deserved that came with that give you, give her back. You know what you doing this. Oh, like, oh, you got my oh. Oh, you got my. Oh. Oh, she's like you all talk to me how you feel about it. I'll see you on question like do you feel like somebody has to write to be mad? If you be the oldest person, I'm not worried about this person. And then you go back and do it. That person I today told you that's a person not to worry about because that's our situation. To your first relationship, I thought this was like that's just a friend.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I say it's okay for you to be mad, that I don't care. At the same time, um, if, say, the person I'm dating not you, like the people that I was dating could see that, damn, even if I'm calling this person to tell them what like to been to them, to say, damn, this happened at work today, or they have my car is getting messed up or whatever, and I'm calling you yes, I'm not in a relationship at the time I'm calling you to tell you about that. So the person you and the rest of you and I'm that I'm in a relationship with and you're like, oh, I know you're gonna end up with Victoria if we don't work out, or I know you're gonna enter Victoria. I know you're going to. Y'all seen something more than I see. You know, I've seen that I was gonna be with, but at the same time we were going through our, our mess and our stuff.

Speaker 1:

At the time they shouldn't have touched you in the first place, like leaping, should have won or married now, so they left it alone yeah, I know, by touching this.

Speaker 2:

So just so, just basically yeah, I think people can be mad. Keep it to yourself, not you like. No, I know, I'm just like them. You would honestly be mad, but that's just something that you got to do, that you have to work. You know I'm saying no fucks you exactly so. Like it, especially like come in by bringing it home. Like you can be upset, but that might be someone.

Speaker 2:

You just need to let go what you mean, because if you can like, not to like, say the people that I was in a relationship with after you are like, oh, you're gonna enter Victoria and that was like the main thing that was focused on all the time, like are you gonna infertory or you're gonna end up a hurry, or even and it's like me, me, you were going through our things as far as like not being together, whatever and then let's talk another people, me talking to people that you are seeing more than what I'm seeing at certain points you know, but I feel like this hard.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I feel like how much over thing on the same door right there, like I don't feel like those women that you dated were like on, like they weren't, they were not unfounded in their, their assumptions. Because the way that you acted like if you have you, me and Hennessy as a ringtone and we haven't been together, family this is like you called me, like girl. If you had that and it was the other way around, I think it was just right for you like what, they shouldn't care, and it's like it's the way that you acted towards me. Yeah, so it's just like. It's like you had them as a placeholder, but in your mind you like I want, I want Victoria, but in my mind, but on the outside you like girl, you want me, so I moved on and but I need you right here because I do understand it okay cuz you know what is your over thing understanding in?

Speaker 2:

this situation. Okay, me overthinking that damn. I want to be back with you. I want to be back to you. So bad, but how I treat you, I don't deserve to have that happiness, or have you? You know, sam, yeah, and of course, like, of course, the different things that you wanted as a requirement as well at that time, what you mean, what you mean like you wanted someone that was like not almost a born gay, but like was like never been with a guy. That at the time, yes, the time you said you had, at the time you said I don't think it was a requirement.

Speaker 2:

I feel like that you attach requirements into an idea that I had as a teenager, because it wasn't like if it was a requirement, but me, you never would know what. I got there what it was.

Speaker 1:

I feel like it was more like a idea. You know how like you have an idea like I'm gonna get pregnant at 19 and I'm gonna be a young parent and I'm gonna do this. It's like it was more of a idea of. I feel like I have these issues, or these issues, what it happened if excuse me, a project, if I was with a female, that was, you know, just knew that was gay, from gay. You know, it's just like an idea that I had. It's not like and that's a requirement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's me at that age, not really looking deep into it. Yeah, that was just me adding on another excuse of why I shouldn't try to get back with you.

Speaker 1:

That makes sense can I say what the? But I feel like the other thing understanding was. I feel that the over thinking understanding was you thought so much about I'm gonna make it hurt, like you felt like I didn't hurt by losing you, so you like I'm gonna make her hurt by giving somebody else, but not understanding that like they're gonna love me like no other, like I have her, I just don't have her in the capacity that. I feel like I want her, but I got it. So the stuff that you was trying to do to make me jealous, it was just like girl, I know you, like I knew you was gonna get married. For you, things go back to your marriage, rapper, right, yeah, no, I'm saying what. I feel like you did the open thing I said because you thought about it like, oh, like I'm gonna go get married. And then you even thought like, oh, when I tell her she's gonna be so heartbreaking and I'm like congratulations, you bitch. Like that is not what you're supposed to say like that is not a part of the script.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like, what else was it you like?

Speaker 1:

you just thought it's gonna be like this whole meltdown. But I was like congratulations, like what I said, like congratulations. We had a whole conversation. I think I text you after that conversation Like do. I know your wife and you, because I remember it was just a no and that's when it felt like I do know them, but I didn't know them.

Speaker 2:

You know what's crazy. You see me. I think I still have it. Then randomly just ran over a couple weeks ago. I think I told you about it that you see me like a postcard or not postcard. Like I was like yeah sorry I couldn't make you happy so she was like what did?

Speaker 2:

you mean, like it was just like. It was like a cute little, I think it was a blue, like a card, it was just like, sorry, I couldn't make you happy, Congratulations. And then I think, before we get back, sorry, like talk to you. You know, I'm a grandmother's child.

Speaker 1:

I'm a grandmother's child, I'm probably this. No, I'm saying I'm probably this and the card, because when I first came into the service, throughout even up to like my last duty station in Virginia, my grandmother would always send me cards and even now, like you get cards, like my actual four they got cards and I was just like, could this to give cards? It's like a heartfelt, it's something so simple that people don't do Like we'll give cards anymore. But my grandmother's 75, 76, 17 years old and she gives cards. Like for a point of time she was still sending money and gum and it's just so thoughtful to be like, oh man, like I got a box over maybe like 100-something cards that she sent and it's something so simple and that's why I like I give them. So I understand what you're saying. Like I probably did send a card and I wasn't being pretty, you did.

Speaker 2:

I really wasn't being pretty. Every time I looked at it after we broke up I cried. I was like you didn't make me happy. Come right, bitch. You're like don't be happy for me, come get me. Why are you happy for me? Come get me. I don't want to be here. I'm in my toxic area. I'm coming back.

Speaker 1:

He's in there, I can't be with you. I feel like I can't be with you a couple of times Like four worth, four worth was God. I feel like it was God and I thought that we were just four worth was God. Four worth is definitely.

Speaker 2:

God, like it was God. We really had talked like what's crazy, like throughout the years before you got with oh, baby cakes.

Speaker 1:

Because we were saying, hey, stop this, let's say baby cake.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we talked a lot and it was always a overthinking. Yeah, it's like the thing where it was like I wanted to be with you, but then should I brush my nose Like my guilt and how I treated you and how I thought I mentally wasn't ready to be with you, or even I'm intrigued, you're right Just wouldn't be able to understand my own feelings and to tell you about it or even be like damn, I know I fucked up. This is how I can fix it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Or not even fix it Like coexist with you. You know what I'm saying? Like you know how people will like let's put in perspective like cheating, yes, and people get back with that person.

Speaker 1:

And their resentment is a threat.

Speaker 2:

The resentment is, like you know, crazy. In this case, you weren't cheated on, so it was like a lot of things Shut up. No, no, we did it Anyways.

Speaker 1:

You say that I don't believe that, but say it, you know, like I didn't. You know what you mean. Huh, I don't want to say I love you, just like love is enough. I felt like love is just a simple like oh, I love you, so I married you, but it's like I didn't. I did, I did life without you and I do not choose to move forward with life without you. So bring your ass, come on. There's like like, come on, like what? What are we doing? Like to be, to be with someone, to be To have a love that makes other people in love is powerful within itself, and that's our love Is like people like people see us and they and just take like true love just exist.

Speaker 1:

And it's crazy because we're two women and even if you know I'm just saying because a lot of people don't believe in the same sex. So just to even be like you have a love to love a person, we're a love defines boundaries where you just like regardless, because the last person we were in their form was a heterosexual. Yeah, like a heterosexual person said into just like y'all, just like when I see our relationship, it's just like true love exists and that's a heterosexual person. So to make somebody Know that, just like love itself has no nothing, you know, like Virginia the lover stated whatever and love has no bounds. Like people can make it, you go too too far. Right or left, it can be preferred and sick, just the purest form of itself. Like the way that I say, I feel like the Lord loves us like this, unconditional. You do what you go, do like nobody loves you more unconditional than whatever you believe in. I say God, right, but I just think it's that like what else are we doing? Like why people, somebody, me know, like you found your person, just like I'm gonna just choose not to be with and you know what it came back. So I had to come get you because you wouldn't came back. It would have been 10 times the conversation yeah, like I want to come get you, like I had to, you wasn't coming. Well, I don't say you want to come back because you never love.

Speaker 1:

Like we didn't go about it the same way like I had to, I feel like I came to grips with. I don't make her happy. This is not working. I think you love you were gone and this just was the more of like I understand it, like I was by myself. It was more coming to the understanding, like you could love somebody so much but you do not control them.

Speaker 1:

So, hey, I love you. I want you to go find the love that I cannot show you, or I know that I love you like that, but if it's not translated correctly to you, it doesn't matter. So I want you to go find somebody that that writes your, that writes your language, that speaks what you, you know want to want to be spoken, and I feel like that's what happened and what you it was more like the whole time. I'm just gonna give me like what is she doing? Like no, you don't need to be self healing. Don't either go be finding these people, because I miss what women in between, and you were around, but you didn't care because it's like, no, I'm not in relationship with them. When the relationship came around, you lost your mind. You like that? No, I feel like.

Speaker 2:

Girl or different stuff. It is, but I'm just sitting there.

Speaker 1:

That's right. That's like. Yeah, Like you was relationship relationship and I was talking messing around boy, they should be like bitch. I know I respected you, I respected you.

Speaker 2:

I didn't like it, but I respected it.

Speaker 1:

I don't just.

Speaker 2:

Know.

Speaker 1:

I told you.

Speaker 2:

Um, um, I don't know. It was just waiting on my heart to talk about them, because I saw a lot of us With them and what aspects. As far as like, even just like, honestly like a A little bit of them, as far as like Is it just like breaking up again back together. Yeah, but like even okay, so like I'll have to show you the video later. I don't know if you saw it, not like I haven't seen, I don't. I don't follow.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't follow them either.

Speaker 1:

I don't, I'm gonna say it's like hard like even what, who was like I don't really care for, but like the podcast, pretty good, I'll be sending it to you like uh, easy, yeah, like I don't really care for it. Or like almost they're relationship. Yeah, like they're relationship the way that it like transpired or how it went started. But that just really outside. Looking at I, you know I'm a big believer in like straight women. I just the gay chicks like let's miss getting cheap whatever they like can, can sometimes pray on straight women and and like you always like to say love bomb. Like you, you experience something totally different. I think that that is just, it's a lot. So for you to go and be like, oh, I love you, it's just like. It's like it worked out for them. You know, as I look at man, they had to take a break, do whatever Two, three months, whatever. Like they, we were four years, they were two, three months and it's just like. I'm really careful in this because they're short.

Speaker 1:

But I do enjoy the podcast and I do enjoy the way To watch them feel about each other. Yeah, I feel like it's it's a younger version of us. But it also scares me because they're younger version of us and they're older than us. It's like we're, we're what? 27, whatever, like 25, baby say 25, so we're 27 and 25 and we blew up at 1920 and we had to like we had this raw and it's Freaking, I deal of love and it's love. That was. That, was that much I. It was real. It was just immature. Yeah, it was an immature love.

Speaker 1:

So it's like Now it blew up and we, it was this four-year gap. I say everybody, take that this. It was this four-year gap to get to this Retro. Love the people of this.

Speaker 2:

Stuff that comes with all of it it did.

Speaker 1:

It was an interesting see you next like time.

Speaker 1:

Oh See next lifetime like yeah, you belong somebody you belong me, put me to them that I was like I would say that, um, I just feel like it was needed, like the breakup, and yeah, and I was able to see, just like okay, she, I gave you a lot of leeway. I say like leeway and like, like you say, put your in the box. And when they come in, like the stuff that you did once we several, they receive like this, get you. Like okay, you plan you like oh, I see you driving down, you, you drive down a freeway and listen it to the song and you like I'ma say this time Okay, but I can't say I'm true, I, I can't say that you were by yourself in the fact of. I always felt like it's a one trucker have you, but it was just at a point where I didn't, I didn't think I could make you happy. So it wasn't that too much. It was like why do they see so?

Speaker 1:

yeah but if I ever say, thought about it or whatever, it was like yeah, it's mine if I wanted it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I don't know a good thing about the last two days.

Speaker 1:

I gotta watch the video now because it's like I I feel like they were super toxic. But, like you always say, like if our younger stage Was put on tv yeah, or not even tv youtube Some of the stuff would have been amplified. So much love for the. If people was even the people that knew about relationship and how they still act to this day about what happened in the past, it'll be crazy. Like, just multiply that by thousands of people being in your business. Oh, you did what to her.

Speaker 2:

You left her a word. You just like that it wouldn't, they wouldn't be to talk about it, that you, that people tell my for like forever, like it's not getting back.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, we had a small friend group and that was like some people need my friends.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people want my friends.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm saying like they were like as a like looking back, like it's 2020, but I'm saying like you had a bigger group people that was your friend or you could sit a friend. I thought why you want like they're not your friends, but I didn't. It was like Like even one of our, yeah, even one of my brothers now, like they started off as your brother, like Bozeman was your people, and then we just happened to, yeah, grow into it. It's not as fucked up, like she did you wrong, like hell no, that's not right, but it wasn't nothing crazy. And then, like my sister, like Like all these well, not all them two people knew you first and they like grew to something, but you had like less like Friends to me. Yeah, I'm saying that to just say like Everybody had something to say and it's like just I can't imagine that Shout out to Sims.

Speaker 2:

You just talk about you better.

Speaker 1:

Hell, yeah, shout out to Sims, like I always tell baby, I'll be, uh, um, I will. I'll say, think about sales, because it'd be weird, like, but thinking about that conversation. So like, like I say, like me, me and my wife, we were teenagers, teen, did teenagers stuff. Teenagers in Korea, texas, girls falling in love in Korea. And I remember Sims, that what Sims right, yeah, I remember Sims and sounds, all this stuff was going on people telling me I need to leave my wife alone.

Speaker 1:

I'm tripping by my, my wife Is that in third? And like, sims walked into, uh, the ration was one day, basically we keep our groceries at right and she said I don't like getting people business, like I'm not trying to be our business, but I will say I like heart with more, way more than I like heart would read. And she just kind of left it like that. And she like I didn't know, like I was about to put this stuff before what To just to say that it didn't even have to be said, like it was just dope because we had a, we had a lot of people who Push, kind of like push for me and heart to be together.

Speaker 1:

And then when, like, the ugly side came out. It was like oh, you need to leave a girl on she wrong about blood. Now I'm like now, now she, my girl. So I'm like man, fuck y'all, like it's us against y'all. I was swinging by myself, not no more. She, she, she went back up now without a, not a swinging by myself. It's like so, like so, so them, so them in a situation Did it? Was it just like the conversation?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my nerves are like if I feel like if it's a gentle time, when she got like lots of stuff like she's childish and say like she's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you know she's to be like a binder.

Speaker 1:

Oh. So yeah, and don't get me wrong, like entertainment is different, like if I had a little bit more than I feel, like the show would be different and like a better way, because some people just have, like they learn the entertainment factor and turn it on me. I'm just like lay back, chill. If they like it, they like it. If they don't, is not for everybody, but that entertainment factor helps you go a little bit more. So, like why I feel like there's these challenges, like Entertainment factor that plays into the audience, that and I guess is like is, if your audience likes that, that's what your audience likes, you know?

Speaker 2:

yes, I don't know. Like, honestly, I didn't really look into or even watch them as a couple. Yeah, you know I'll be watching drama channels for background. Oh, it's most of time. So you love it. No, love it. It's my jet. I don't love it. Background noise, which I need. Fine, better things to meditation, music or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I used to do all the time. It's just yeah, how dust are doing that similar to camera, but um, I don't know that one video of them, I guess first getting back together after all these years, just reminded me of us, and why. I think I was like a day or two ago, I think it was two days ago and I was like you know, no, like we've talked about like this.

Speaker 1:

I've talked about certain things I did before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like we've talked about it before. I think you can talk about it a day or two before that video. Yeah, the video. So I'm just like Are you gonna talk about it?

Speaker 1:

I think it's cool. I feel like I think we should talk about our story more, not as a for like this the details. Like I tell you like my soldiers, like you, your wife, your best friend, like you're so close but he's like we went through that and this. I feel like I'm the old you know I, like you have like the parents. Be like I don't do anything. Like there, you never did it. Like you get older.

Speaker 1:

Now you now, we looking back and I like 20s, like I did it, like To be almost in a service for a decade. I met you through the service. I was just like this person has been in my life for a long time and just To, just to feel like that time we took out didn't even happen, like when it was going on it felt like forever, but then we got. It was years, but it's a second yeah, they want to first of you back together. It was kind of like yeah, and it's just like it didn't say dang that we just break up for a month to like it didn't feel it.

Speaker 1:

You, we started talking and we have issues about courage to Fill ain't.

Speaker 2:

It was meant to be and it felt like it was.

Speaker 1:

I gotta drop these but I'm sorry, we can dress in these, we can drop forward these.

Speaker 2:

I Somebody's not married, so somebody was married at the time, so it's not like I'm doing the legal. She came back tomorrow. So sick, you're a signal. She came back and I and it felt like we had didn't miss a beat. That what I call it. You can't joke. You got jokes, you know. It's like we didn't miss a beat. Got back so quickly and just fell into the Listeners.

Speaker 1:

The listeners does not visually send us, don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that's. I think you did it in it. I think that was a part. No, I'm sorry, I don't like you did that back. You came back. You never lived.

Speaker 1:

Jazz had me a whole back pocket. Jazz. Jazz was like we all see the little kids with the backpacks. That's a test today. Parents, they, even if the parents not looking at if that's string yank, they like where's it? Like this, just like when I got you listen to string yank, it was like girl, if you don't give back over, you like she, she, like I Feel like I'm finna, lose you mind. You. She took three, let's just in. I have one Relationship you so drew. It was fake.

Speaker 1:

This guy sent me it's still with my first song today, out of the blue. One day she sent me. You know the fun with nobody. I was like you're in publicity. I don't think. I think that.

Speaker 1:

Think that I like when you pop your shit because you Come and be like humble about how you feel about me for some things like it's like, it's like I Like okay, show me sometimes you don't play about me. It's not like a test, it's not like Like you be saying like reassures, like people, they reassures and I just like, okay, like you be like cool. It's like okay, I'll go talk to this girl. Oh, you know like, oh, they're pretty, this girl keep whatever you let me go this one, okay, show me sometimes like all right, like I, yeah, but there's me like it's not talk to it, I do you like that, it's not toxic, like you love it. You know, I don't play about you, well, not even talk about me and my eyes. Sometimes you play about me. It's like okay, I say talk you know, like, oh, you play about me like evenly.

Speaker 1:

Even Don't female that you've been with never had to meet me to know like I'll play about you, just off the way that you acted. No, I'm just, I'm just Saying like they know like I play about you never had to meet me a person, never had to. But like I feel like people Like you play about me. So like when you do certain things, I alright, like Okay, she'll play about me. So maybe she'll be saying, yeah, I think like you, like I'm saying I don't think it's time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, should be a taxi, cuz I don't think it's time you didn't know, I feel good or somebody, but you and I don't know ignition Just like oh, if you call me, I'm gonna like you out or so, cuz you're up, it's just like I don't play, like any aspect of it. Hey, you're, your mortgage could be paid. Your bills page, you need something like you can come for me Now. You want to talk like you could do. You need me more present. Hey, I've been working a lot. What do you need me to do better?

Speaker 2:

like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 1:

it's just like I don't play about you in every aspect, not just like I'm like, the same way that I Go on somebody mouth for doing some disrespect to you, like I won't go on somebody mouth, but you know they like if a situation permit for it, not to go the way, because I don't, because I don't play about you, like if I give a move to a big doing on his woman, wife, yeah, it's just the more of like okay, and I just feel like from the past of feelings, of feelings. But they can, looking back on the Passes, stuff is just like okay, you played about me, it's not. When you came back, it was a little bit more like the stuff to do on a bomber, not even coming on this seven City.

Speaker 1:

You know, sorry, no, I'm saying like you didn't play, like you were more with. Your actions are showing that hey, I want you. Hey, I want you like I understand I got a still I got. Like I learned all this, not even a, yeah, but just like you don't play a bunch of person I mean that's literally the best I could put it like you're not playing much first, like you know anything, but you, you know something. Things are just hey, like me opening the door, it's not tamed, it's not like I said what I say.

Speaker 2:

So like I don't think about you, I gotta show you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but like I say, it never has to be said like you know, I know just like I say something similar is opening the door. You know for here that door open, you know you go close you and you know.

Speaker 2:

My wife is that something is?

Speaker 1:

similar that you know, okay, baby, but she won't open the door. And I learned, like, if it's raining, I'm not finna walk around the open, I'm opening from the inside, like you know. That's why my lady and what? Huh, yeah, exactly why you doing with like, but you're teaching me that, okay, baby, exactly, like, exactly, yeah, I get you, just you. So this is sometimes you want to know.

Speaker 1:

You ain't played about now. I don't think this tactic, no, it's not I. Can you go to the bank in the in the guard, like you? You can't forget, bring that good here. You ain't trying to be nice. No, boss, say you're not trying to be. Huh, the bank? You said bank, yeah, bang, bang. I think you said no, you just thought about the club incident. I said bank, like, if you go into the bank in the in in a guard is guarding the safe, okay, you can't bring that gun here. They're not being toxic, they're not playing about that job. That's it. Yeah, that's it. I'm saying like, let me be with. No talk to me. It's like a you don't play by me. I guess it'll be a question like. I don't feel like Nobody around my question, it's just like a statement. Right now we turn up with my jazz. Yeah, even down. What you see, what you thought. You see this in play right there. You got any more thoughts? You want to rub it up?

Speaker 2:

I have to show you the video. I see the nuance of what we can do.

Speaker 1:

If you can't screen view of it, I'll have my little mic, so I'm watching the episode.

Speaker 2:

It's just I don't know, like it didn't give like a lot of, like I said, I don't watch them to know, like, like, like I said, if I watch Domino and Chrissy because I watched it, I watched them a lot and, like you know the people, if I watched them, then I'd be like damn that it'll be more of an impact on me. But yeah, it was one like. I just just the nuances of us.

Speaker 2:

You see us Just like, oh damn, that's what we really going through late when we had our talks. When you came over and you know we just talking but talking I'm always doing good Talking and stuff and just them, like their face is like number, they're just not even sitting, like, not saying anything sexual or anything, just like the face, is just like you know, just talking to each other. Yeah, like, of course, if we don't know what happened before they got on camera or after, but they were just so Happy to be good, huh you say like this is look good.

Speaker 1:

Good, they're happy to be like even somebody happy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like even if they was to have faked it or anything, they did a damn good job of thinking it yeah on camera, but it was something like you, I feel like you couldn't fake that, yeah, that type of vibe like people can act, yeah, but you can't act.

Speaker 1:

You can't act. Uh, you can't act. Box yeah, a vibe is like created, yes, exactly. Yeah, like connection with something. Yeah, I can't fake a atmosphere. I uh.

Speaker 1:

You can try, oh, I can make you look like snow, but you can't fake the snow, you can't make the. It's hard to kind of duplicate just the way that the Err just makes it happen. I honestly, I think that's true, I think I can, I can definitely say that that's true. I can say this true because even with us, when we freeze it back together, like you can't fake, we can't go back and create what we had. Yeah, we can only like, try and now, like we got a it's immaculate, like I feel like it's like it's not that good.

Speaker 2:

Trade this for the world.

Speaker 1:

I would not trade it or not trade it to go back, because I know it's like we know like I know it's not, like, oh my god, I never thought it'd be here like I have seen behind the curtain I think this was dope too about Felling openly, like in public, religious. You're feeling you got eyes on it, your person did this, your person did that and like going back to him, it just I just feel like it speaks another volume, like you, like just like the world seeing what you did, I see what you did and I'm still here with you, and also it's like it feels the same way, like even within the circles I don't know, crazy stuff like super toxic, you get your ass beat you back and my mom and I'm just gonna, like my boyfriend, I ain't saying that, I'm just telling more, I don't, I don't want to. Yes, you do not, yes, but um, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2:

You will think I'm being on you stop, stop, I can stop, she's okay. Yes, it's okay, I'm okay Stop.

Speaker 1:

I'm okay, okay, but yeah, I think, I think you don't.

Speaker 2:

Stop, you still be dramatic, but anyways, okay, stop.

Speaker 1:

No, but what I'll say is this is like wrap up what I'm saying I think it's dope to like Fail and you, like you have a list that goes through that you still choose that person. Actually, I don't mean I mean with all dangerously toxic stuff, uh, I mean not being nasty, emotionally abusive, you know what I mean. Like it's just a just a healthy get back. Like I choose that person no matter what because it's so many, that's so many freaking emotional no, not emotional conversation. Lambom, is that this statement just put? Because, like you definitely have had like a Emotional abusive parts of our relationship. We're still here. So like it's like yeah, I definitely think you don't think it was no immersive immersion emotionally abusive parts of our relationship, like are they not being you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm saying like, oh you know, like real toxic and horrible I'm saying like a mercenary, like a Emotional, yeah, yeah, I think it's both ways. I didn't mean nothing like it was, but I could see I'll say, because emotional abuse can be like this, like what, talking down, yeah, it's the way you feel, the. So just a thing. Like I think it's no, you learn like I don't think that it's, think it's both ways, like you don't just like. You learn like yeah, you'd like you learn like, oh, okay. Like I don't think that is just like could we be so quick to be abusive and emotional?

Speaker 1:

You think it's just you know, sometimes yeah, oh, you stupid bitch, you're getting my fucking nerve like. You ain't. You ain't never gonna be shit. You, why'd you like you? Like you, like I hear you ain't never gonna be shit. This is none of that, but then it's the same thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you know, I'm saying like I'm just gonna cross the road you have to make, but I know what you're saying.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

Stop, I'm not the fix it, don't fix it. Do what you want. Stop. We've been together since we were teenagers. Okay, so A lot has happened. It's a work in progress, work in progress. Yes, stop you smiling like I'm holding you hostage.

Speaker 1:

She's not. I'll just aside. Like you said, we've been together since we were teenagers and yeah, like, yeah, it's kind of mess up, we kind of like erase everybody else in the middle. But I mean, that's kind of how I felt. It was like a test that we was feeling so we stuck in there. So we had to stick in there longer, but once we passed the test, we got to move on to the next level. Hey, here we are. I was definitely hard for you, horrible True. No.

Speaker 1:

It's okay I think this is a conversation for another day. Like yeah, okay, definitely, comes in front of me. I don't, I don't think it was horrible. People do what you're allowed in the do and a lot of stuff happened. It was just too young Women's navigating, uh, insecurities, emotions and all that. I don't, I don't think that, because I want to be back to you. Oh, I'm like, oh, okay, how many treats you give a dog? I do you continuously beat the ass, this, fuck you in the tree. So I definitely think that. I believe, I think, I know that it wasn't just, oh, I was just horrible to you. Like, no, it's, I'm a chair enough to understand that that you gave, you give and you get. You know, gave, good, good, I gave something Preachy, something was given three G's. You know, I gave something, something was given, and this is what I get for doing that.

Speaker 1:

Like it was a lot of signs, actions, stuff, that was dead, that I ignore or choose not to see or whatever, and it's like that's what you get.

Speaker 2:

But you, oh you know, just a good bias, cover you under as you take, I'm not taking blame I, just it takes two to take off. Yes, and I think that you want to take, but it takes all the blame, but it takes somebody walking me like you want to take. What you have is dance.

Speaker 1:

Can you that? And they still take to the table. So I can be like no, and guess what? You gonna tingle with somebody else, you gonna tangle with me.

Speaker 2:

I'm fucking tangle with me girl.

Speaker 1:

I really hope that y'all enjoyed this episode. This episode was definitely in all by my wife. Wow, it was almost our great, great conversation. I enjoyed talking to you. As always, until Next time, be genuine to yourself and kind to people. Baby will tell us those by.

Speaker 2:

Yes, see you later. Follow me on tiktok. The heart show the H-e-a-r-t.

Speaker 1:

Show yes, get my baby to 2000 Follows like every social media at.

Speaker 2:

That's my name, but tiktok is what I'm promoting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that's it. Thank y'all for joining. Thank y'all for joining us. Hope you enjoyed the episode. See you later, bye, bye.

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