The Preferred Vendor Podcast
Balancing Love, Family, and Entrepreneurship: A Conversation with Victoria and Ken McDonald
Have you ever wondered what it's like to juggle marriage, parenthood and entrepreneurship? We sat down with Victoria and Ken McDonald, the power couple behind a thriving custom suit brand, to discuss how they navigate these complex roles with grace and commitment. They open up about their unconventional wedding, the importance of making a great first impression, and the joys of designing custom suits.
Adding another layer to the conversation, Ken, sheds a light on the art of effective communication in a relationship and the importance of allowing each partner to chase their dreams. Tune in to this episode for insights on the balance between old and new parenting methods, the dynamics of a three-spouse relationship, and strategies for finding that elusive work-family balance.
The couple also provides a peek into their financial strategies, including the critical art of budget management post-kids. We explore their decision to move back to Jackson, Mississippi, and the implications that entailed. Wrapping up the conversation, we delve into the significance of individuality within a marriage and the delicate balance between unity and maintaining separate lives. Join us for a lively, insightful conversation that not only entertains but also leaves you with valuable lessons on life, love, family, and business.
Have you ever wondered what it's like to juggle marriage, parenthood and entrepreneurship? We sat down with Victoria and Ken McDonald, the power couple behind a thriving custom suit brand, to discuss how they navigate these complex roles with grace and commitment. They open up about their unconventional wedding, the importance of making a great first impression, and the joys of designing custom suits.
Adding another layer to the conversation, Ken, sheds a light on the art of effective communication in a relationship and the importance of allowing each partner to chase their dreams. Tune in to this episode for insights on the balance between old and new parenting methods, the dynamics of a three-spouse relationship, and strategies for finding that elusive work-family balance.
The couple also provides a peek into their financial strategies, including the critical art of budget management post-kids. We explore their decision to move back to Jackson, Mississippi, and the implications that entailed. Wrapping up the conversation, we delve into the significance of individuality within a marriage and the delicate balance between unity and maintaining separate lives. Join us for a lively, insightful conversation that not only entertains but also leaves you with valuable lessons on life, love, family, and business.
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Speaker 2:Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back to the Preferred Vendor podcast. Got two special guests on today. I'm going to let y'all introduce yourself.
Speaker 3:Hi, I'm Victoria McDonald.
Speaker 1:Kim McDonald. Kim McDonald Collection.
Speaker 2:There it is, there it is Kim McDonald Collection real fast. What is that?
Speaker 1:Oh man, it's a brand.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Suit company, custom suits, I also do you know streetwear. You can get your jeans, jackets, your joggers. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. That's what's up. So you do custom suits. Yes, sir, okay, so real fast. So, guys getting married, do you prefer them to get a, to buy a suit or to rent one?
Speaker 1:So I don't rent.
Speaker 3:I don't.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:You only have, you only able to buy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think it's better to buy, because I mean you can wear it again.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So with the rent I mean, I think if you pay that much money you gotta take your bag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's kinda like a you know, yeah, I tell somebody one time I was only in one wedding, right, yeah, and it was fun. A quick story, because the wedding I was in we was like friends, like in like middle school, you know what I'm saying. So we really talked like in high school, college, none of it, gotcha. And he, I think like one of his girls man is like bagged out last minute. So he hit me up on Facebook like, hey, man, who, the who, you want to be in my wedding? I'm like I don't even know you like that.
Speaker 2:So went to do the process whatever, went to like men's warehouse, the Tito Junction or whatever. And then that was like when the guy fit it, that was like I probably like set the file out. So I'm like, all right, cool, I'm thinking of be like one, fit there all together and stuff Went up there. That's like all right, your balance is 500. I'm like what I was, like bro, I am bringing it back, like you feel me. But so I tell people that too, though, like guys, I be shooting. Like bro, you might as well buy a suit instead of renting it. You know you're going to spend them a money. Might as well wear it again. That's what's up. That's what's up. So today y'all you know this podcast mainly I like to talk to couples about, you know, weddings and things like that. So we were talking a little bit off camera and did you guys have a wedding?
Speaker 3:number one no we didn't have a wedding, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So why not? Why didn't y'all have a wedding?
Speaker 3:Well, I guess for us at the time, we already had a child and we were we were, we were. You know, we didn't even get to like the budget part. Our beginning was just the venue.
Speaker 2:It was all going to be in a wedding.
Speaker 3:It was a lot of politics going on on my end. And I just I guess, being abroad I'm more, so okay, I have to be the one to plan it. And I, just it was stressful for me. And I asked Ken, I'm like, do you, do you have to, you know, have a wedding? He said I don't have to. And I'm like, well, I just don't feel like trying to plan it, I just didn't feel like it.
Speaker 2:I just didn't feel like it Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just seems like a lot. Yeah, then in the back of my mind, who's a few years?
Speaker 2:out of college.
Speaker 1:And then in the back of my mind I'm like, okay, you're already in a little debt from you know tuition.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know that'll put us in more debt because a lot of people they they think about the wedding. They don't think about marriage after the wedding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1:What was on my mind is where we're going to live in, you know this and that.
Speaker 2:So that's what's up.
Speaker 1:I think, I think everything worked out.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. So y'all met in college, yeah, okay, okay. So how long got the college? This y'all like, okay, we're going to go ahead and we're going to get married and stuff. How long got college?
Speaker 1:Four years 2016.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's what's up. That's what's up. So y'all been married for what? Going on seven years January.
Speaker 1:January seven to eight seven years Did it fly by?
Speaker 2:or flew by it, flew by so you said like I've been married seven years because y'all look young. You know what I'm saying. You know been married seven years. Like it flew by. Like that it flew by.
Speaker 3:We've been together all of my twenties, yeah, so we've been together 10 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, so okay. So we was talking. You said, if you could go back, you would do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Thinking back, you know, just to have those memories to look back on with family or reception, and just to the point of my daughter being able to see like my wedding dress you know, like stuff, like just sentimental things. That's what I look back, like we probably could have. Just at least there's something small, real small yeah.
Speaker 2:I tell people, though, my favorite wedding is like small, intimate, like destination weddings and stuff like that. But I like how y'all were thinking like long term, because the last couple I had on here they had a huge wedding. Yeah, you know she was just like, if I go back, I wouldn't do it again.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So yeah, okay. So let's talk about you know you say you want your daughter and stuff. If you could go back which I had wanted to do like a destination or y'all want to do some local here If you had to plan your wedding right now, like what would you want to be?
Speaker 3:If I had to plan my wedding, it would definitely be in my hometown.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:At one of these absolutely beautiful venues that is around Jackson now. And just something, still traditional and maybe small, I don't know. I can't say small because our families are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our families, our families are going to be big, yeah, but I would just do a traditional wedding.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure about the colors, but it would definitely be a traditional wedding. And but I will say this, I was fine with getting married in an intimate setting. We got married in my pastor's office and we ended up going out to eat out the words. So, that's exactly what Carrie Bress Shaw ended up doing on 6 to the City. And I love that show.
Speaker 2:So I was like okay, I'm going to get my Carrie Bress Shaw on, that's what's up, that's what's up. So I mean, so that was still nice, but you just wish y'all could have celebrated more with friends and family.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:A reception, something yeah, something big.
Speaker 1:And we thought about doing that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just having a reception. Yeah, I've been one of those too. They had something small. They had like a big reception and stuff like that. So you know couples do it all the time. I always thought about having like big viral and all that, yeah, so we actually we're thinking about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, once we reach 10 years, 10 years, Do something big.
Speaker 2:They're going to do a big yeah.
Speaker 3:They're going to do a big thing there. You're going to be against, but you're going to be working too Of course.
Speaker 2:Come on now. Y'all are going to be there.
Speaker 3:You stay out there you would have.
Speaker 2:Right, right, that's what's up. That's what's up. So what would you say? What was the main reason? I know y'all said money, things like that, but was it was money like the number one reason why y'all didn't have?
Speaker 1:a wedding. For me it was. Our families are so big.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we're like really close with our families. So I was trying to see, okay, who's going to be in it, yeah, this person not in it how they going to feel. This person not, so I just too much, that's too much.
Speaker 2:I didn't want to go through it. You didn't want to hurt nobody, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm not like a confrontational person. I don't, I didn't want to, you know not deal with nobody.
Speaker 2:So you say you know what, forget it, I'm like, forget it, like we started planning.
Speaker 1:We probably talked about it for about a week.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what? We just don't take that money we're going to go take it for a honeymoon.
Speaker 2:So you think, cause I have done with them.
Speaker 1:They have like a million and one bride, maids and girls and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:You think I would have had something? You know, having something like that, I would have had 20 people I would have had 20.
Speaker 3:And I was going to have to find 20 people, cause I'm like 20 people that's extremely close to me, like that Godly.
Speaker 2:Godly man, 20 people man.
Speaker 3:He won't go be able to say no man, you got to say no.
Speaker 2:I was just talking to my friend, a photographer. He was just, like you know, really limit your wedding party that way it could kind of be focused on y'all. So why y'all didn't just think about the route Like you know what? No, no bridesmaids, no groomsmen. You know that won't go away.
Speaker 3:That won't go away Because he has his brothers. That he's extremely close to Then I have my sisters, and then he's even close to my brothers.
Speaker 1:He was going to have my brothers in a wedding.
Speaker 3:I say it shouldn't have been no more than I say. Seven is really a big number. Yeah, it is on each side.
Speaker 2:Yes, so how many bridesmaids you would have had?
Speaker 3:I could have had a good four standing next to me, four or five. You could have had ten, no.
Speaker 1:He's saying that because I got lion sisters, bro, I could have had four the lion sisters, that's ten, right there.
Speaker 3:They won't go be in my head, oh man.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I've seen like. So I have seen that, especially with lion sisters too. So I've seen huge wedding parties. It's like but this is ridiculous, Like this is a football team right here.
Speaker 3:And then I think two parties with me, I think at the time, I think now it's more popular when people they would say no children at the wedding.
Speaker 2:That's more popular now it is, and back in 2016,.
Speaker 3:people looking up inside my head like what you mean? No children, like we got kids, we want to be able to be there. So I'm like I don't want kids at the reception, Like if you're not in a wedding party you can't be at the reception. I think now that's a thing. Now people say 18 and up, or 21 and up, or you and just your plus one and stick to it.
Speaker 2:So how do you feel about? That I like, that you like that I like it too, because my thing is, you spend all this money, you feel me.
Speaker 1:You wanted to go how you?
Speaker 2:wanted to go. You feel what I'm saying. And that's the big thing with weddings too, because you're still dealing with people like the public and stuff like that. So you just don't know how somebody's going to act. Somebody might bring a plus one that get too drunk, or something like that.
Speaker 1:So they see somebody that they don't like, and it's just too much.
Speaker 2:Man, listen, speaking on lion sisters. I have seen that, so I did this wedding Right. I don't know, I don't know what's the room? Delosy Miss Aida, Delosy Miss Aida, sorority incorporated.
Speaker 3:That's what's up. That's what's up. So I think there's some dancing too.
Speaker 2:I think they was for like you and him or something like that, but I did see the way I was. In matter of fact, one of the lion sister wore white to the wedding like all white dress, all white dress, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You know, back then I didn't even you know, you still know, okay, that don't seem like she probably wearing that, but we're all white dress and she probably did it on purpose, probably did it on purpose. You know what I'm saying. So that's my thing. Even with like, like, knowing big groups of people, like you know, if somebody in there there might do something like that, you think you'd have, maybe lion sisters, maybe they did something like that. I don't think so. If you would have, would you? Cause she was cool about it, she was like whatever, whatever, whatever, but would you would you want somebody to ask that person to leave?
Speaker 3:No, I would not go as far as that. I don't think they would. But if they did and they wore some type of variation of white, it would just be that I'd be like were you the bride or me?
Speaker 2:You know I may make a little joke, but I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to go as far as kicking them out.
Speaker 2:So would you do a Suks for Wedding now? So like, tell me what like things you see, what's you like about that?
Speaker 1:So normally I only do well. Recently I've been doing the entire entire wedding.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But at first it was only the groom. You know a lot of people, you know they may say oh, it's too pricey or this and this, but if you want your stuff to look a certain way, you pay for what you get. Basically, I believe, if you want your stuff to look a certain way, your pictures look a certain way. You know, I think that's the right you should go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely, definitely. So you like him weddings or you just like overall, like designing Suks for people period.
Speaker 1:I just like, I just, I just, I just, I just have a certain thing, like I only like doing afterlies.
Speaker 2:My favorite thing is weddings.
Speaker 1:My favorite thing is this I mean I'm kind of all around, I like it all. But I will say, since I'm a former athlete, so I will say me doing pros, that brings up a certain type of joy. I've traveled, you know, to be with different athletes NFL and NBA and I, yeah, that brings it.
Speaker 2:So tell guys right now why should they invest in Suks? Like what's the purpose of me getting Suks If I got nice clothes? Why is it super?
Speaker 1:I just believe it's important man First impression. I've noticed, you know, me wearing a suit and people treat me a certain way. Yeah, you know, versus me in joggers and they look at me in a certain way.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:With that also. So you know, I think crazy to say, but if somebody seen you in a suit they may be nicer. That's what I'm sure. Not sure why I said way, but that's kind of you know some things I've noticed.
Speaker 2:What age you start getting this Suks man? So I'm like so it's at a certain age. So Ryan is about 23, 24. Okay, so he start buying Suks right now.
Speaker 1:So I would say, yeah, you should start buying Suks right now. You walk into a job interview a nice suit they may hide you just out there Like I've been in that situation, Like I've been in an interview nice suit on, look, nice, set down and they probably asked me one question and they just told me about the job and at the end of the interview, hey, do you want this job?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think it was because of how you dress, how many Suks you got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how nice this suit was, because that's one of the first things they said, you know oh man that's a nice suit.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. That's what's up. So how many Suks should a person?
Speaker 1:have. I think you should have like the basics. So maybe a black, maybe five.
Speaker 2:I'll say five.
Speaker 1:You should have five Black we'll say black, gray, navy, khaki, maybe like a pinstripe or plaid, something versatile. That's what's up.
Speaker 2:So this business, something you can see passing down to like your little one, most definitely.
Speaker 1:He actually enjoyed wearing Suks.
Speaker 2:Like he, my son has had a few custom Suks.
Speaker 1:He want more of them. Like man, you got to grow out.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I was definitely asking you like so yeah, he grows so fast man. So definitely once he get older, you know it definitely happens, but you could you see your daughter getting into it too.
Speaker 1:She actually like like I'm awesome. Like you could do one or two. We're not going to do two.
Speaker 2:Do you? You wear Suks.
Speaker 3:I do. I only had one with Ken and we're about to do a couple more because I need to do some head shots. But I like Suks, I love it, I love, like that one bud. I don't know double breasts are okay but they have to be really fitted on me. But I do enjoy wearing Suks. I think it's important, especially for male black males to be in Susan, If you got to be somewhere, if you just going to have a drink or a business dinner, you know, put you on some nice mix it up, and so you know, I really enjoy.
Speaker 3:I enjoy seeing him thrive in that area because he just like it just comes natural to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So but yeah, I do, I enjoy wearing Suks, I do.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. So do you recommend women wear Suks? You know women Suks are a popular thing.
Speaker 3:I just feel like you just look, it's a boss, move to me Like if you come into it you're a, you know you're a director, and especially in corporate America, like seeing women in Suks, it just looks good, you know. And so I feel like, even even when we're out, or you know, like, like I said, just going to dinner, just simple things, just you just look, it just made it gives you just a boss. Look, I really do Like when you got a suit on and it's tailored and it's custom, yeah, it's boss.
Speaker 2:So let's circle back around to y'all.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:For couples that may be thinking similar to the same thing, so like, uh, any, so they might just have any doubt, or why not to do it? Do you recommend them going ahead and like going through the process, or would you recommend the route that you guys took and maybe wait and do the survival and all?
Speaker 3:Well, first, I would say it really depends on them, you know, because weddings, we know it's financial, it's like I said again, like politics and the planning, Um dude, was really like I would say go with your first mind, Cause my first mind was to have one and it doesn't have to be like what you see. Right, Make it exact. My advice would be to make it exactly what you want. Like, don't waver from that, you know. Make it exactly what you want. Team up with some people that is good, Even if it's a wedding planner that's in your family or someone you know that's able to like stay within your budget. Make it exactly what you want and you're going to be good. Don't second guess. Just you know that's what you want. It's possible to do that.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. What about you, Ken?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the same man. Um, it just depends on your situation. Um, you know, when it comes to financial, you know um family, um, yeah, I just think it depends on your situation, do?
Speaker 2:y'all see the benefits. Uh like, did y'all have a head start not having a wedding? Did it jump start y'all? You know what I'm saying? Family Because, like I said, let's say coming out of college, let's say I'm not guessing y'all may be able to spend 20, 30,000, right. So do y'all think that kind of helped, y'all Like, okay, we didn't have to waste that money?
Speaker 3:I think so. I think it did help us, it did give a bit of a head start, and what we did was we said, okay, no wedding, but we're gonna make sure we do something nice for our honeymoon. So we did the Bahamas, okay, but we were still it was still within the means, and so it did provide us a way to give us sort of a head start, especially having a kid Like we had a kid first.
Speaker 3:So that responsibility alone is like a lot, and so I feel like it just it helped us not to have one financially, because I feel like we probably would have been in the hole if we did it. You know, I do feel that way, so yeah, it did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 1:Kind of how it happened was we had Kennedy, we had Kennedy 2015,. We got married in 2006. We had. Kj in 2017.
Speaker 3:That's what's up. I got pregnant that same year. We got married Right.
Speaker 2:So cookies are expensive Almost definitely.
Speaker 1:It's ridiculous how much medicine costs man it's root disease it's medicine.
Speaker 2:It's expensive, man. So y'all did the nice honeymoon, then why not just do it like a destination thing? Like, hey, monday, wooty, woot, family, y'all just come out here. We just gonna do something small out here. It'll be a honeymoon with them all at the same time.
Speaker 3:His mom is not gonna fly.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not gonna fly, Not gonna do it. Not even for the wedding. No, not even for the wedding. She might want a cane for the wedding.
Speaker 3:I get that too, because I'm just not a fan of flying, yeah. So you know, it's just we. He's close knit with his family, I'm close knit with mine, and they were all there. They were like, good, we'll do something small, we'll you know, with your pastor, but we just it's the people getting out there to be there with us. Now, looking back, I'm like, shoot, we really could have me. You could have went with a minister, got married and came back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's, just it's just Rest in.
Speaker 3:Peace Pastor Mason too, mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, that's what's up? Pastor Mason at Early Girl.
Speaker 2:So was y'all not having a wedding that y'all do like couples counseling thing?
Speaker 3:You know we had to. Okay, we didn't marriage counseling before, in order for my pastor to marry us McGinnian Pastor Mason he we had to do pre-marital counseling. I'm glad we did because it does open your eyes to what is to come. Yeah, you have the glistening glam of a wedding, but when you go home, walking that threshold, your man and wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And it's just. It's not just a piece of paper.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's not, it is, it is a. You become one in a sense, you're still your individual selves but pre-marital counseling allowed us to just get a just a glimpse or picture of it, Although it wasn't everything, but it just give you something to like okay, this is how, this is how we need to maybe start this roadmap on this journey.
Speaker 2:So do y'all recommend that for other couples? Oh, most definitely Thinking about it like, oh, we might not need it. Most definitely, I definitely recommend it.
Speaker 1:Some people don't even have those conversations, they just go right into it and they just have to deal with it.
Speaker 3:No, we live together.
Speaker 2:We were living together before we got married, so that's another question I was just gonna ask too, cause the last couple they was together since high school but they didn't live together their first night living together were after that wedding night. They left the wedding and moved into their house together.
Speaker 2:That was their first night staying together. So how was that? Because I hear pros and cons of it. Like, let's say, I lived with a person before and I'd say, the arguments maybe we have had it wouldn't have happened until we were married. So it ain't no, get out of my house. It's all we breaking up. You know what I'm saying Of a little situation. You know what I'm saying. So do you recommend that, which I'll do additionally, which I'll not have lived together, or did it help y'all in this situation? Y'all got a chance to learn each other, get a feel for each other.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't say that. I mean cause we still, you know, as we get older, you always learn each other, you know growing. So I wouldn't say, you know, I think it just depends on the situation. Yeah, every marriage is different. Not one marriage is the same. So you know, everybody deal with things differently. So I think it's just a pen. You can't say, hey, oh, this would have happened if you know this way, this would have happened. Now everybody's different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody different. I mean, for us it worked out perfectly, it worked out good, that's good, that's good. So so which y'all living together before marriage Did it feel different after y'all like made it official, like when y'all went home, was it like a different feeling, or like, is it kind of like, okay, you know, it's just official now, you know?
Speaker 3:Well, for me it didn't feel any different, because when you're living together with you know your significant other. You kind of come into that husband wife role a little bit.
Speaker 3:You're already cooking, you're already cleaning you know he's going to work or he's doing what needs to be done At the time we had a town home, so he's doing what needs to be done around there, so I guess the feeling wasn't different. Of course, we were on a high from okay, we're married, but far as like the feeling of okay, now the rules are this yeah. No, I might be going rules you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't believe in the rules either. Yeah, so he's late now. Well, yeah, I mean, like I said, that's a part of growing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, part of growing.
Speaker 1:yeah, that's a part of growing and learning Something somebody tell you that might have happened 10, 15 years ago in their marriage. I mean, we're in different times so they may not work in our marriage. So I'm not a fan of rules or this. How?
Speaker 2:How it should be. How it should be.
Speaker 1:I think everybody you know you grow and learn their part. You have to learn your part.
Speaker 2:That's what's up.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. Is that tough, like, is that tough?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:How does it feel to be one? You know what I'm saying Because, like I said, I'm coming from the outside of like I do a lot of it. You know what I'm saying. I love doing it. I love seeing people at their happiest.
Speaker 3:You don't win, so let's get to the marriage side. Yeah, let's get to the marriage side. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:I would say the number one thing is communication. Yeah, like you have to have that communication.
Speaker 3:You have to listen. You can't just talk. You have to listen, you have to listen, Listen gotcha.
Speaker 1:I think that's the number one. You have to listen, man, because some people you know something may happen and they may not say nothing this time, or they may not say nothing this time, Something big happened. All that stuff you've been holding in, it just comes out, and it'll come out a different way.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 1:So I think communication is like the number one thing. You have to have that and you have to feel comfortable doing it.
Speaker 3:Yes, you really need a safe space with your spouse and in marriage. You have to understand okay, we're a team. When you get that, y'all are a team, y'all on the same team, but you're not gonna be on a football field. One of y'all are trying to make a touchdown here and the other one trying to make a touchdown on the other. When you realize you're a team. We gotta walk this together.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:And Ken and I are, so we're opposite but we are liking some ways. But he's more laid back and I'm more in your face, I guess, and so sometimes you can you kind of you know clash when it's like that, and so you just have to, like he said, communicate. I'm big on listening, kind of understanding and creating a safe space for each other. Like at the win, it's everything's good, like we drinking, we toasting to it, we having fun. But when you go home and getting that marriage, you are on the same exact team. If I'm, it may be something that I'm feeling uncomfortable about, and then he may it may not really bother him, but I'm like you still gotta stand with me though.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:We can trade those borders together, so yeah, so somebody that's not willing to compromise, you wouldn't suggest them taking that next step.
Speaker 3:Probably not. Probably not, cause you's another person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, man, I know, I know that's, that's something tough for me. You know what? I don't think it's compromising, cause I don't mind compromising on the type of person. Okay, I've been in a situation where, like the woman she was, her favorite thing was well, I started doing this when I married. You feel what I'm saying? No, y'all wouldn't agree with that kind of terminology.
Speaker 3:But what it is? What would she start doing?
Speaker 2:That's that used to be my thing.
Speaker 3:Like.
Speaker 2:I was like it's not a switch that just turned on, like you should be showing me things now that makes me want to marry you.
Speaker 1:If you're not doing it now, you may do it when y'all first get married.
Speaker 3:You can't just do it when you're married. Yeah, so that's one way.
Speaker 2:It's not gonna last so even if, like a couple that lives together or doesn't live together, you think each person should be doing things like to show their partner how they would be. As a husband, definitely.
Speaker 3:I think that's it. Yeah, but yeah, with some people they do it, just it is unconsciously. You know they may do it, but yeah when you're living with someone that's really gonna tell the story.
Speaker 2:Right, it's gonna tell the story, that's it. So how do you know this person? You're forever personal, like you know what I'm saying, and does it. It's like I've been together seven years. Is it still that same like once you look at her, you be like that's. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's my lady there. That's my guy. You know what I'm saying For me, yeah, it's funny because I'm a former athlete. Yeah, so I played basketball at Alcorn State, so I've never had to approach a young lady, so she was the first young lady I actually had to approach. So that was kind of you know if you know yeah, got you, I was like, okay, she give me a challenge, Got you? And I mean ever since then it's got you.
Speaker 2:So what about you? So you saw him. So when he first approached you you was just like yeah, so for cause they say women could tell like it's gonna be my husband. But like you know, I've seen that.
Speaker 1:But you know what the crazy thing is? She was watching me.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, okay, she had an eye on you a little bit.
Speaker 3:She was just waiting on her post. I would say with Ken I had already seen him, Not already, I think, like that same year he was.
Speaker 3:That was his last year playing basketball and saw him and I said I was like okay, he's cute, you know. And so when he did approach me I was like okay, but I made sure I was seen. But he approached me and so then I just like kind of knew, like okay, he's a really nice guy, I want to get to know him. I didn't think husband right away, but I definitely was like boyfriend for sure, and so as we just it seemed like we just clicked and everything was just so cool again, cause he saw laid back.
Speaker 3:So, and we, just it, just it, just kept going, it just kept going.
Speaker 2:So at what point did you tell your best friend Like I could see myself? You know what I'm saying. If he asked me, I'd say yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, my gosh. Ooh, I mean far as marriage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you know, this the person I want to be with, definitely Before you told your friend, like you didn't have to tell you know nobody else, just like, yeah, girl, I think I could you know.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's say okay, we met 2012. So I kind of knew, not, kind of I pretty much knew Once I had my baby, I kind of knew, not saying I expected it. You know I'm like, okay, people can change. But I knew I was like, okay, yeah, we gonna get married. Like I already know, we gonna be married. He's gonna be my husband, but that's like like when I had my baby and just seeing how Ken was like just with his heart, like she and I, he was just all in.
Speaker 3:And I'm like okay, yeah, this, this is it right here.
Speaker 2:Like cause you know you have a baby.
Speaker 3:They get to running.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You right, you right, you right.
Speaker 2:I'm still got my guard up like, okay, let me see what's next.
Speaker 3:But he never gave me a reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's up, ken. So even you know y'all having a baby and everything. Was it still a nervousness when it was time to propose?
Speaker 1:like answer that question. Definitely, so what was you nervous about?
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? Just just just wonder, Cause I know me. I can't imagine, I can't even imagine me doing that. You feel what I'm saying, so tell me, tell me them feelings you was going through.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know what? I was a little nervous, not too much, though he was starting.
Speaker 2:He was starting.
Speaker 1:But it was a situation where, okay, I think I called, I called my best friend and my brother over to the house. Well, I told him before I was going to propose and I did a little speech, or whatever. I wasn't really nervous.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Not too much.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. Were you nervous when you did it? Was it a surprise, Was it? Oh yeah?
Speaker 3:it was a surprise.
Speaker 2:It was a surprise.
Speaker 3:We had been talking about it, but then you know I didn't she didn't know when.
Speaker 2:Right, I didn't know when.
Speaker 3:So it was a surprise, but I was sort of nervous but I was happy too, cause I'm like, okay, finally, yeah, but it felt good, like it. Just it was just a good feeling, like I was like okay, we're like this about to be official, official, Like even after being together, having a baby what else being together, having a baby and then living together, that just saying look, I want to take your hand in marriage. It just really made it official. That's what's up. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. That's what's up. So, after it happened and everything. So when you told your parents, or you know your family, that y'all wasn't going to have a wedding, was it a little disappointment Cause you know, sometimes mommas and you know daddies always want to picture their child, you know, walking down the aisle or you know first dance and stuff like that Was it a little disappointing for them? I think for my mother-in-law maybe.
Speaker 3:Maybe yeah. I think she definitely wanted a wedding, yeah, and then for my mom she wanted one too, but she was just like I'm just glad y'all getting married, I don't want y'all be shagging. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 2:So y'all got two little ones. Yeah, how was that? So? How was I was parenting? You know this marriage learning on the fly Like I'll read it in books, y'all. You know y'all did well with it. Did y'all sing? Like?
Speaker 1:cool parents. Yeah, I'm more of a, you know, on the fly she's more of a I don't know. Let me look this up on Google.
Speaker 3:Like, like, like like I read articles for babies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she, you know seeing what Google say, you know, should this be happening or should this be I'm more of a.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, I'm old school but I like to make sure we you know that little new school stuff where it's gentle parenting. I mean, I don't, I want to say I'm a gentle parenting type. But I do like to mix. You got the old school and then you got some of the new school, because the generations are different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think with Ken and I with him working at the alternative school.
Speaker 3:He's more when it comes to discipline. He could be more you know about. Do this, that's it. And me I'm like well, why are you doing it Well? Why do you want to do it Well? Don't do you know I'm trying to talk more, so yeah.
Speaker 2:So when it's time to discipline, who'd like to discipline at your place? Uh it depends.
Speaker 3:Yeah, at that moment especially like with Kennedy, because we had a girl and a boy. So Ken may not want to be too hard with her, but he gonna get with KJ and he younger yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so how did it work then? So are you a little tough on the little?
Speaker 1:I'm probably a little too tough on it, but I mean, that's how my that's how you write it. My mom and my, where my grandmother and my mom raised me. So I mean I believe in. I believe in you know tough little I believe in it? I don't think you should.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. Time out and all that yeah. See, I'm new to all this too, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I say tough love, because life is gonna be tough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 1:Whatever you do is gonna be tough Like nobody's gonna give you anything Absolutely. So you have to know how to, you know, deal with certain situations. Yeah, I just think that's how.
Speaker 2:Have them ready for you. Have them ready for any situation. That's what's up.
Speaker 1:Whether it's sports, you know. Whatever it is, yeah, how you feel about that?
Speaker 3:I get that too, but I don't look at it as tough love, you know.
Speaker 1:I look at it as it is because they give me what they want. We still, they still a sport, yeah, they give me what they want, but I think people take tough love.
Speaker 3:is I'm about to beat you, but then you know I still love you? No, I feel like, especially with girls, even just kids, even little boys I feel like tough love misses that emotional part. Like being an adult now I feel like my parents, I should have been more in tune emotionally with them.
Speaker 2:And so that's what I want like, especially girls.
Speaker 3:Like my brother can tell you he has four girls and he's like he really have to tap into that emotional side with girls. They may not say it, but they may need a hug today. You know, like even my daughter. I remember my uncle told Ken we were saying how clingy she would get and he was like she may just be hugged a little tighter you know, and so with girls.
Speaker 3:You definitely, as a man raising them, you want to tap into that emotional side of you Because, ken, like I'm not really emotional like that, I know you're not babe but tap into it Because they may cry about stuff that we think is, you know, not dumb or like silly, and you really, when raising them, it's just things that's so small to us, is like huge to them. Their world is so big and we looking at it like it's not that big a deal but it's big.
Speaker 3:And so I feel like tough love misses that emotional side.
Speaker 1:I feel like it misses that you have to have a balance, though I'm not always that way. Yeah, you have to have a balance.
Speaker 2:Like we spend quality time, like me and him has been the greasy games, just me and him, nobody else.
Speaker 1:So I think you just have to know how to balance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that was like I said, because I'm new to it, so I went from being, you know, the rich uncle to you know saying come here and spend money.
Speaker 1:Let's go buy something.
Speaker 2:Now every day I have to tell like I can't do this every day. We go, have no money for school. I keep doing it out of this, so it's. I'm definitely trying to learn a balance. So how do you, how do you find that balance? Not only like having kids I know that's a lot of time and then still having time for each other.
Speaker 1:It's hard, it's hard. You have to have patience with the kids, but it's hard because it's so much. It's so much.
Speaker 3:A lot of our days is dedicated outside of working.
Speaker 3:A lot of our time is dedicated to them and when family isn't like, I have my sister that lives by us. She's the only family that's close to us, but she still has her life, and so when you're not close to, like, the grandmas, grandpas, it can be a little. Our time for us is maybe like once a month. If we can squeeze some in and I can see if my sister isn't busy she'll get the kids. So it is hard. We're still trying to learn how to balance that right now, I mean even now, like we like we need another date night soon, because when we, when I, when I log out of work and he gets all where he picks them up, they get home. They want to eat homework time. Somebody got a little tutoring.
Speaker 3:Somebody got a soccer practice. By that time it's 8 30 at night. We're going to bed. So me and Ken got to sit together and like OK, this documentary coming out, we're going to put the kids to bed, we're going to wash that together. Just get those little spurts in.
Speaker 1:You have to plan ahead. Yes, and that may not always work out too, but just still try to plan, try to plan ahead Like, ok, this is what we're going to do this week, this is what we're going to do this day, even with small stuff like working out, like I used to work, like to work out in the evening time. But now I can't do that because all of that time goes to the kids.
Speaker 1:So I have to get up at 4 35 in the morning. Go work out, because if I don't, I'm not going to work out that day. There's so much other stuff that has to be done.
Speaker 2:Man, they say it's tough having kids and being mad.
Speaker 1:But it's a joy. It's a joy. It's a joy watching them grow.
Speaker 2:That's what's up.
Speaker 3:We have your moments, but it's yeah.
Speaker 2:So what ways you think I guess you know planning, but what ways you think you guys could try to help improve yourself quality time between each other. I don't know any tips for couples that may be struggling with that as well.
Speaker 3:He and his big on quality time. I would like to hear him answer this.
Speaker 1:Oh man, you just have to plan ahead Because it's tough, because coming from the outside, looking in.
Speaker 2:so you know I'm an entrepreneur, so you know, I tell people. You know I talk about it all the time, but you know what I'm saying. Like you know, all women want a band that you know works hard and work a lot, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Until you get one, until you ain't got no time you know what I'm saying, and then it's like you know, you know who I was, where you met me.
Speaker 2:But so you're not only an entrepreneur, you know and I'm going to ask you how I did dating someone like this but not only you're an entrepreneur, but you have a job too, Right, so that's a double. You know saying a work time, so sometimes you may have to get off work to go. You know, do this, you feel what I'm saying. So how do you, how do you even find time for that, Because it's tough just having one job. Now you got two, so how's?
Speaker 1:that, and I used to coach also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was a third job. Yeah, so that. What made you give up coaching?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that made me give up coaching. It was taking up all of my time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was gone the entire summer, Basically every weekend from March until August.
Speaker 2:I was gone Every single weekend, so I had to give that up for family.
Speaker 1:But now what I try to do is I try to schedule my appointments. Ok, it's four weekends in the month. Two of them are going to be dedicated to family, the other two will be dedicated to be yeah. So I try to. I try to balance that one.
Speaker 2:So what if an emergency come up? Like you know, super Bowl winning, this person you know needed a suit on a family weekend. How they go.
Speaker 1:He can go get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you come with that, you come with that.
Speaker 1:And she do a good job on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I understand 100 percent yeah yeah, I thought I was marrying a basketball coach. Yeah you know, I'm like, ok, we'll be on the road, or we, you know, think different things like that. But I end up marrying an entrepreneur, so it's like I'm a supporter either way. Like sometimes, like, oh, you do got to go out to have a look at the guy, he's like, yeah, I got to go. I'm like, ok, cool, Cool, I'm a handle it at home, go like. Go like, chase your dreams.
Speaker 2:Like I never.
Speaker 3:I've seen marriages where one wanted to. You know like a spouse may not be able to chase, chase, chase their dreams like they want to, and you kind of become. You can become depressed, you become, you start outsourcing for other stuff.
Speaker 3:You know, you just trying to feel, avoid, and so I'm like, no, go, you got to go. Go you need to go, fit this person. You got to go out of town to this wedding, go. When you need to come to Jackson, go. I want you to live your dream and I want, I want to be allowed to do the same for myself, but. I'm I'm a supported 100 percent.
Speaker 2:That's what's up and I feel like that's you don't find that? I don't know.
Speaker 3:I be cool about stuff. People are you cool about him being the women? Go, I trust them.
Speaker 2:You know, go ahead. Yeah, I wonder where, I wonder why people have that insecurity, Like you know it's probably different reasons.
Speaker 3:Ken has never given me a reason to feel no type of way and again, like I'm saying he's Ken has worked away before where he will only come home on a weekend, so we definitely had to have that going on. The marriage too. But as his business, I'm one thousand percent Like when he said he got an idea going on he'd come to Jackson even with you, anything like go, I got the kids, we'll be here or we'll travel with you, but more like let me try to stay at home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's up. I support it. That's what's up. That's what's up. How do I make you feel, man? You know it makes me feel great.
Speaker 1:I don't have anything to worry about. I know the kids are fine, you know, so I mean it works out perfectly. That's what's up.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. That's what's up. Like I said it, definitely you know only outside looking in, but it does look like y'all got to like, figure that pretty much.
Speaker 3:You're trying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got like a y'all rhythm.
Speaker 1:It's a. It's a You're trying. Yeah, it's, you know it's it's work, it's work, it's work Like we do a. You know we have a lot of conversations, mm-hmm. So it's, it's, it's work.
Speaker 3:And it didn't come right away, right Right, it took time, yeah, a lot of time.
Speaker 1:Everything was, you know, sunny when we first started. We've gotten into it where we weren't talking to each other for two days and a half.
Speaker 2:So it's fine for couples to do that, it's fine for married couples to do that, it's fine.
Speaker 1:Well, I believe, I believe that's a part of it.
Speaker 2:It happens, that's a part of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like to get to a certain point. I think you have to go through something Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So there's nothing going to be perfect? No, no People can go and get that out there. The implications we're seeing are not good.
Speaker 3:I may look at him one day and be like why are you chewing like that? Like I just don't like it.
Speaker 1:It's getting on my nerves to see you chew like that. You know?
Speaker 3:No, no marriage, and he may be like you've been on a phone all day.
Speaker 2:I've been hearing you yapp all day I don't get out the phone.
Speaker 3:You know so it's not perfect, but you have to. It's a choice. Every day you wake up, I choose to do this Like when I wake up, I choose to get up, Me and my husband, get the kids ready. He packing their lunches. You know he's helping me out. We just kind of be there for each other. We don't want either one of us to get burned out, Right. We have a schedule Because we start getting burned out. You start trying to find an outlet.
Speaker 3:You know, let me drink before I go to bed, which is not wrong with that. But I'm just saying like you just start to kind of stray away from it If you can't, if you getting burned out in the marriage or things. So we just try to hold each other up Again, we a team. So if I'm getting tired on this end, come come, come catch the love with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so do you. So. Was it a conversation when you decided to come off the road? Was it like you may be doing too much?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it actually was. Yeah, A year ago, maybe two a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2:And how did that go? Cause I know you love, I love you love being around the game, Love being around sports.
Speaker 1:So, I understood, I understood, Like I'm a.
Speaker 3:Our second baby. Our second baby.
Speaker 1:Like I'm a basketball fan to the core, so that's his first love.
Speaker 3:That's my first love.
Speaker 1:So it kind of felt a certain type of way. But at the end of the day I was like, okay, I'm not the same person that I was playing, or, right after I was playing, like I have a family now. Like it's not just me.
Speaker 2:You know I have, I have a family, I have to support a family.
Speaker 1:So if my wife say, okay, you're gone too long doing this, or you know we need you at home. Like I understand it, Like it, no matter how I feel he found it for a little bit.
Speaker 3:I did, I did I did.
Speaker 1:It took me a little while to but Cause that's your first love.
Speaker 2:I understood because.
Speaker 3:I have to look at it like, okay, I had to revise that.
Speaker 1:How does she feel? Oh, why does she feel this way? I had to look at it like that. And once I did that I was like you know what? I did this for eight years. I've gave back because I wasn't getting paid for it. So I gave back to the youth like I started doing it for and I was like I'm okay with it. And the crazy thing is some of the kids I've coached growing up they're professions now and now they call me. You know, hey, I need a suit for this event.
Speaker 2:I need a suit for this game and I catch a flight and go take care of.
Speaker 1:I still can do that, so I'm still connected.
Speaker 2:Some type of way. That's what's up. That's what's up. So why choose the suits over basketball?
Speaker 1:It's something I can, you know, give to my son and at the same time, I've been coaching basketball for so so long I know how it works. I know what it takes to get to this level. I have coached pros. I see how you know the agents work or how these teams work or how how it is to be recruited, like I've seen. You know all parts of it. So once I've seen that, I'm okay with walking away from it Because I've always wanted to know, you know okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I wonder why this happened Because I, you know, I didn't make it to the. I didn't make it professional, I stopped in college. So I always wondered you know, okay, how does it work professionally? How does how does this work? How does this work? So, by me coaching on the Nike Nike circuit, which is the top circuit in the world for high school basketball player, like I've seen how how this work. Like you have kids getting paid 10th grade they're 10th grade, 11th grade getting paid to play on the team.
Speaker 3:And now you can instill that in KJ Kennedy Right.
Speaker 1:So if they're getting paid in 10th and 11th grade to play on a high school travel basketball team, what you think they getting paid Got it. So I've seen, you know all parts of it. You know and you know I'm okay with walking away, like I always can go back. You know.
Speaker 2:What's up? Was it a sad part? Because you said you, when y'all you know was together, you had in mind of you know, you think you're going to get better to the basketball coach. So when that aspect you know was finally gone, was it like dang? I would kind of wish he would have did that. I'm cool with this.
Speaker 3:I sort of wish he was a basketball coach.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like high school or even on a collegiate level. I do, um, it was, it was the summer, like he had summer basketball. Yeah, summer basketball, like that's when the kids are out, yeah, yeah, even when they were babies. It's hard trying to be somewhere with them and do this, and my mom would have to come. His mom helped out a whole great deal. His younger brother would have to come stay at the house with me sometimes, you know. So I felt lonely because it's summer and you want to get out.
Speaker 3:But him being a coach like through the year, I definitely I wanted that for him. He's like I don't want to do that, you know. But, um, I was kind of like dang because I know his skill set on the court and off the court. He would do wonders as a coach in that, in that world, um, and so, yeah, I was sort of like dang you know he found something else that he's passionate about, which I love to see, and you know it just, it just is even better.
Speaker 2:So what makes you just all in Like? Is it because I said I do on my own, or it's just like I love it? It's because I choose to.
Speaker 3:It's a choice. It is a choice. It's not a the moment you feel like you have to, you might want to walk away.
Speaker 2:So so far another you know young lady that might be in a similar situation and maybe dating an entrepreneur Like. What advice would you give her? Like dating an entrepreneur? Or you know someone that?
Speaker 3:Well, I've given this advice before Um, you have to be just as in all in as your spouse, because when they, when that man, when a man make a choice to do it, you know as a man, when y'all make y'all choice to do it, that's, that's your passion, that's what you're in.
Speaker 3:And as their wife, their significant other, you have to be just as all in and probably hold down some things. Cause if he say today I'm just going to fully leave education alone and I'm going to try this entrepreneurial thing like full time, and I'm probably still just in the real world, I'm still working on working in corporate America, you know, maybe some things I got to hold down while he's steady building, building, building. So you really have to be all in with that. It's going to have some stressful moments, but when you make the choice to be all in, do just that. Because when a man you know he's with you, he got his mind made up, Y'all can go real high, like you can go. You can go with that. So, yeah, you have to be all in. You have to be prepared for the ups and down, just probably like another marriage.
Speaker 2:So for the women that may say like you know I can't do that. You know what I'm saying, Like why, you know what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying Like I'm never going to do it. They just feel like you know what.
Speaker 2:Why, you know why can't be the other way around, why the shoot can't be on the other foot, something like that.
Speaker 3:For them. That says that far as them, if they want to, because you sacrifice a lot of your time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So what makes you just?
Speaker 3:If you don't feel. What makes me do it is that I know the reward is greater. That's just me. For someone else that probably can't see that vision or don't even want to see it like. Look, this is what we got in front of us now. This is what we need to handle. They will have to work that out the best way they can. You know I will hatefully to result in not being together, but it's a choice there.
Speaker 2:I know I'll talk to a person and. I'll tell them, like I've told people that I've dated, like you know, I think you need to get you a guy to go to work at eight o'clock in the morning and get off at five o'clock.
Speaker 3:Because I may have to be in the Bahamas, I may have to be in Paris for this.
Speaker 2:I can't tell you what I'm going to be doing, since much down the line.
Speaker 3:I can't. I don't know what I'm doing. That's the exciting part, though. That's the thing, that's just me.
Speaker 2:That's how I look at it. Yeah, so I said, dating an entrepreneur definitely isn't for the faint of heart, for sure.
Speaker 3:No, it's not.
Speaker 2:For sure. So, as an entrepreneur, I'm going to let you all get out of here what advice you give entrepreneurs to making sure that they schedule that quality time with, you know, their family. Oh man, or not even family. Just you know significant others, you know.
Speaker 1:I think if, even if you don't have family man, if you're an entrepreneur, you should schedule some me time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why is that important? Why can't I just get to the bag?
Speaker 1:Because you're going to have ups and downs, so it's not always going to be, you know, sunny. You know, and in the crazy thing is the struggles that you have prepare you for. You know, the bright side.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I think you may, you know when it's not going well, you may have to, you know, take a little time off to get your thoughts together, To prepare you for the future, yeah, so what's stopping you from going full time entrepreneurs? I still, you know. So, by me not coaching anymore, me giving back to the youth because they need it, need male teachers, we need more male teachers in the classroom. So I think that's my way of giving back. Yeah, you know, even though I'm not coaching, but I'm in the classroom.
Speaker 2:Got you.
Speaker 1:So I may you know these guys. They need me. I've had students so how it works at my school. If you do something at your home school, they seem to I turn the school 30 days 25 days or you get the entire year.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I've had kids and I've seen, you know, growth from kids Seven, eight grade. You trying to figure it out, you trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1:They don't know which way to go. Some of them don't have fathers at home, so I can be that role model in that life and I've had kids, to you know, go back to their home school. And how they got my email I don't know, but they will send me an email and say, hey, man, I appreciate you, I appreciate what you did for me, I appreciate what you said to me and, man, that right there means everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's up. That's what's up. So you think that's something you think you'll stick to doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I think I do that for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I do a good job of scheduling. If you go to my job or if you ask somebody that has worked with me, they'll probably tell you he's one of the most professional guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I take pride in being professional.
Speaker 2:That's what's up.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I think, as long as I can do that and I can balance everything, yes, I can be an education for a while. I can balance bro.
Speaker 2:And really, why do you say we need more male teachers?
Speaker 1:Man, we just need it. We just need it. Man, you can see the difference. Like I can have students in my class and they'll go right down the hall to a female teacher class after they leave my class and just act out.
Speaker 2:But when they're in my class, totally different person.
Speaker 1:Totally different person. I don't know if it's because they don't have that at home. They're not used to it or what, but you can just see a difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you recommend guys definitely.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you have the opportunity, man, you have the opportunity to do that like that. That would be good man.
Speaker 2:I've never been to feel a day in the teacher class. I've never been to a teacher before, but it was like a third grade teacher and I told them you ruined it for our teachers. I never did that, Because they bring the stress. Well, I just said this particular situation. The stress was brought home. You feel what I'm saying Like? Teachers are tough job, then you don't make too much money that you should.
Speaker 1:I kinda understand that because third grade they have the state test that they have to pass. So that probably comes with it. Stress came home and behavior, yes, I was there, so I could understand why they would come home. I was there lesson planning, you know grading papers and da, da, da, da, da da.
Speaker 2:The teachers is a hard job you feel what. I'm saying that's why I'm like I don't think I ever dated a teacher. After this, you know what I'm saying. So how does it feel dating a teacher? Even though it's in school. You know it's an alternative school, but you know teacher life is still tough.
Speaker 3:It is, and I think that's one of the outside of a doctor, nurse, dentist, I think a teacher is. That is an amazing position. It's a ministry and I tell Ken all the time when those kids come there, those are troubled kids that he deal with. You know, whatever they trouble, by, so that's even tougher it is, and I want him to understand where they come from and show compassion there, cause at home they may be going through all type of stuff that we don't know about.
Speaker 3:And I think that's where he and he looks at it that way too, where when they come here, like show them a different side, they see a black male professional or just a male professional in general, you know. Take that opportunity to show what the other side looks like, you know, instead of what they see in the streets.
Speaker 3:And so I just think it's just a ministry. I love that about education. I was in education at one point in my life. I was, I worked for AmeriCorps and I was a TA and so I just think that field is a ministry.
Speaker 3:I think it's so underpaid it is and you know, I feel like I like to see males in the area because, believe it or not, like males I'm gonna speak for black males Like y'all are like incredible, like y'all. Just it's like y'all come here with something and you just know, you know what I'm saying. So you tap into that and you have somebody like Ken or you know any male teacher in your class that can turn that around for you. I think it's so good, so I really love the fact that he's in that profession.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. What made you get out of teaching?
Speaker 3:Well, wanted some more money, yeah, but I had a thought that I may go back to education, even if it's like a behavioral specialist or something, because this generation we need it especially us. Like I'm real big on, I'm pro black, you know I'm really big on us, so I don't wanna. You know I'm like it's needed in. That classroom was needed you know, and so. I left for more money. Yeah, for sure, I'm an accounting.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that was it. So you love what you do there.
Speaker 3:What I do now, I do. I enjoy it. Well, I work for Hilton now. I work for FedEx. I work for Hilton now and I enjoy it. It's relaxed. I'm an analyst and so my job is pretty straightforward and I do love it. But I think I don't think I'll be in corporate America long time. I may go back to education just like a behavioral specialist or something like that yeah.
Speaker 2:So you are the number's cruncher then. So even with the family, you crunch out of numbers.
Speaker 3:Well, he took on that role as of late.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Cause I feel like doing it all day. I don't want to look at no bills, but pay it.
Speaker 2:I don't want to look at nothing.
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to figure out nothing. No interest nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's up After doing it all day.
Speaker 3:but I need to pick it back up, Cause Ken has been doing an excellent job taking it on. He did not have that duty at first. That's what's new.
Speaker 2:You know he switched around and there it just that's what's up. That's what's up, all right. So last couple of questions, i'ma let y'all go. So how do you balance, like, let's say, one of y'all like to shop and one of y'all you know? How do y'all find that balance? Like, oh, you can't spend it, you can't buy that. You may want this, you probably not need that. Like, how do y'all find that balance right there?
Speaker 3:Again, we switched roles in that. Yeah, sometimes that was him at first, I was saving money, like he wanted some shoes. Yeah, I was the join every week. That was me at first.
Speaker 1:And once we had kids I was like you know what I came to visit?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so now she's done.
Speaker 3:Anything for the kids Teal, fair and Teal fair.
Speaker 2:Gotta have Brandon Blackwood, fenty. What's the reality? Fenty and all that, gotta have her. That's her now yeah.
Speaker 1:Another thing. What good thing about it is she's got me into like the skincare and all of that, I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 3:So far as shopping to answer your question, we do. Ken will say look, it's not much we doing this month, it's what we putting back this month. Watch that, don't touch this card, Don't touch our joint. Cause he has an account? I have an account then we have a joint, and then we have our savings there.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And so he'll say don't touch that.
Speaker 2:I'm like, I'm like I'm like, don't touch that card, I'll fit it up, but I'm glad I'm got it on. So do y'all recommend that thing like the separate, then the joint?
Speaker 3:I've had that discussion, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think so, I think so, I think so.
Speaker 2:That's interesting. Cause you hear the people say y'all put everything in one. You know what I'm saying. But I haven't heard people say have your own separate. Yeah, I think so. I think it's okay to do that. I think it's okay to do that.
Speaker 3:And I think it's okay if you have a joint and you're able, cause with a joint we started to overspend, cause he'll be sliding for one thing that I don't know about.
Speaker 2:I'm sliding for something.
Speaker 3:So when you have your separate accounts you're getting paid. You know it works out better because you already know the bill's gotta come out. Anything for the kids gotta come out you don't wanna overspend in that area, so I think a joint and then separate. I think that that works for us you know I've seen people like completely separate. I'm gonna pay this half of the bill you pay to have. I've seen that too.
Speaker 2:So how did it work then? So you know, both of y'all get paid. Are y'all putting a certain amount in the joint, or it's just like he's not gonna get on the joint I pay out of bills. Okay, okay, got you.
Speaker 1:But you do have people that. You do have people that you know. Split the bills down the middle.
Speaker 3:No he pay them off. Yeah, you pay out of bills.
Speaker 2:About that.
Speaker 3:So you good with that.
Speaker 1:Oh, no problem. Yeah, good, with that I don't have a problem, cause if I need something, I know who to come to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you go to, it's your personal thing to do right there.
Speaker 3:Personal thing, you guys.
Speaker 2:Right, that's what's up. All right. So then we was talking a little bit. I'm gonna let y'all go about the whole y'all. You guys don't live at home, you guys chose to move off or whatever, Even though it's not too too far, but it's still not, you know, at home. So how it? What was that conversation like? Did y'all move for work originally? Or y'all just like, okay, I want to get out of here? So what was that conversation?
Speaker 3:Get out of here. Yeah, when I moved with him to his area, it was me getting like I'm really good at the house, like I'm a baby. Now I'm getting out of my dad's house, gotcha. And then we got down there and I'm like this is too small for me, let's go. So we moved to Texas and we spent like a year there and he was like ooh, this not gonna work with kids.
Speaker 2:What then? Working in Texas, because that's the move Everybody love moving to Texas. You know what I'm saying? I live in Texas.
Speaker 3:But with us, with kids under the school age, what you're paying in rent or mortgage. You're paying it at daycare too.
Speaker 1:Who's actually paying more at daycare than rent Right and?
Speaker 3:so that just then it makes sense, you know, you want to be somewhere in struggle.
Speaker 2:You can be at home and be dipping in struggle, and so that we came back. We found jobs.
Speaker 3:Ken found a job with the school system Shout out to Mr Smith and so we came back to the Mississippi area and just started kind of working. Now, with the kids getting older, us getting older, I'm like gosh, it's really good to be close to family.
Speaker 2:Like I've been craving moving back home to Jackson, madison, flowwood, whatever somewhere in this area with my friends and my nail tech and my hair stylist, yeah. So give me the reason, because people would be so ready to get out of Jackson. Give me your reason for wanting to move back. I know you just named those, but just nothing like huh.
Speaker 3:A major reason is with school, even with education, I feel when my kids they're in a great area for education but it's just not the education system. Our students are performing lower like. African-american students are performing lower than the district. In the whole district they perform lower than the counterpart. And so I'm like, yeah, you say I'm in an all white district, but I mean, is it really good to your child?
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, now that's a different perspective.
Speaker 3:Yes, and so I just feel like moving back home, we're closer to his mom. I have my aunt and uncle here and my other uncles they're here, and so in this era now I'm 31, the kids are a little older I just it feels I want to be home, like I kind of just want to be home and can like now, but he can flourish here, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3:And it's a conversation we're having.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so before we even just hit on that. So what was your reason? For you know not only what, would you say what you like about living away versus possibly moving back. So me.
Speaker 1:I think everything is written is already written.
Speaker 1:We've actually been having that conversation and she's kind of changing my mind. But even moving to Texas, I think you know that was perfect. God did it on purpose Because that showed me. Okay, when I was in Texas I got to work with black entrepreneurs, like I was training at Donald Drive off facility, I was training with Brian Adams, former pros two former pros. I'm training with them and I'm seeing how business is done. You know, and this is before I started my own business. So I think you know everything works out perfectly because, okay, I seen how it's supposed to be done, like, and then we moved back to Mississippi. Being an entrepreneur has never crossed my mind, but it just seems like everything works out perfectly and all of a sudden, boom, I'm an entrepreneur, I've seen how it's done, I've seen the right way, how to do it. So all of a sudden, you know I'm an entrepreneur and she's talking about moving back.
Speaker 1:I do a lot of business in Jackson. I'm here a lot, probably once or twice a month.
Speaker 3:Why do you want to stay in South Haven? So, why do you want to stay in South Haven? That's all I just said.
Speaker 1:That's a conversation we have to have. Like she's changing my mind.
Speaker 2:I'm like, you know what You're right, you're right. I do a lot of business here.
Speaker 1:I work with a lot of business owners here, so maybe that is the right move, yeah, so.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's why we're holding out buying a house.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 3:What's the point we're supposed to do?
Speaker 1:that last year.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:I'm like, okay, maybe that's why we didn't do it last year Maybe we don't supposed to be here. Maybe we're supposed to be here.
Speaker 3:We gotta know that's just bringing the. You know God. We gotta know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I do you budget. So I guess, give me pro and a con real fast, so I go. So, moving back to Jackson, pro.
Speaker 1:For me Close to the family, oh, her friends here, her friends here, close to the family and friends, I know where to go here, gotcha, you know.
Speaker 3:I know the size now, but it's familiar. This is my home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's my biggest pro this is my home. I know how to maneuver.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 3:A con for me is the crime.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But there's still not really a con for me because I know we're not to meet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're not to go, so you can the same.
Speaker 1:I would say the same, I will be close to the family if I move. She has a lot of family here and a con would be the crime. I mean you have to know how to move, you know when to go here, when to go here.
Speaker 3:So I mean that's a conversation, but I know it. Memphis crime is horrible, yeah, but I don't know it. I don't fool Memphis, right, and we don't know. I'm proud to do work at the old Memphis.
Speaker 1:You have to be in and out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so think about being someone like that. You don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't know where or what's what.
Speaker 3:I know not to be somewhere, yeah.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, Gotcha. That's what's up, All right. So any advice for couples that either they're just married, like any advice from newlyweds? I spoke with some newlyweds last week. I'm kind of like just I know y'all don't touch on a lot, but just what to expect as this process continues. You know what I'm saying Because you guys got married young right, we did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was 25, 26.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You was 24. Yeah, 23, 24.
Speaker 2:So that's pretty young.
Speaker 1:That's pretty young, I was 23. So 23.
Speaker 2:23, 23. Do you recommend, if it's that person going here and then doing it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like marriage and kids should be your late 20s, early 30s. Yeah, got you I feel like you need to really really.
Speaker 1:Got you, especially this generation coming up. Yeah, wait, it's different, it'll be there, don't get married at 23.
Speaker 3:Like me, at 23 is a whole nother person from me too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right.
Speaker 3:And think about that as we grew up together.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:I've been together. He celebrated my 21st birthday with me. Me, then, is a whole nother me now. So it's OK to grow with that person, but I would say late 20s, early 30s, get married, start having kids, definitely get married first then.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I would say at least.
Speaker 3:If you can. I know stuff happened Right. If you can get married.
Speaker 1:Two to three years of just you and your spouse.
Speaker 3:Yeah, then you need those two to three years.
Speaker 1:You need that time I wish that's what we would have done at first.
Speaker 2:Got you, got you. So you think I would have got married around 27, 28, round that range instead of 23? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that would have been good. Yeah, that would have been good, just a little, I mean 23.
Speaker 2:I look back like you're a baby, that's good though, because companies hear that, because you know how some people feel like I've been dating this person since I was 20. Now 23, 24 was way too late.
Speaker 3:Don't put a time limit on him. Yeah, don't put a time limit.
Speaker 1:I don't put a time limit on him, we just feel like we were ready, but I'm saying that, but at the same time it's no right time and wrong time.
Speaker 3:That too.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I don't think so, because when it does happen, you still have to learn that person. You got to grow with that person. I don't think it's a certain time, got you.
Speaker 3:I guess I'm speaking on maturity like yeah, maturity.
Speaker 1:Now, if you're a maturity, ok yeah, you can do that, 23, 24.
Speaker 2:So don't worry about time. So I've been dating this person for five years. That shouldn't be the number one factor.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't think so. I wouldn't say that I don't think so, but it depends on your end goal.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, if I'm dating you for five and I'm like, do I still see myself with him for 50? You know, or are we just good right now?
Speaker 2:Let me see you, so you need to make sure that this person I can see myself, who is 20 years old.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, having kids with you.
Speaker 1:No, you need to make sure if that's a person that you can't see yourself without.
Speaker 2:Without. I see, I like that. I like that. I like that. I like to say, like you, y'all have a really great balance and I think this. I think this is what I honestly think. This is what, like couples should strive for honestly. You know what I'm saying Understanding each other. You know what I'm saying being able to communicate, because all couples can't do that.
Speaker 3:You have to get there. Yeah, you get there. It takes time.
Speaker 2:So it's a process.
Speaker 1:So it's not like we supposed to be able to talk right away. You know what I'm saying it takes time.
Speaker 3:It takes time. It takes time. That's what's up. Yeah, we've had our moments where we clash. Now Right?
Speaker 2:Right, that's what's up. Wasn't talk, so couples shouldn't feel bad about that.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, not at all.
Speaker 1:That's the part of that I don't want to talk to you today.
Speaker 3:That's the part of that.
Speaker 1:That's the part of that that's what's up.
Speaker 2:That's what's up.
Speaker 1:Like she said earlier, you have to choose to love that person. It's a choice. It's a choice you want to do what you're going to do.
Speaker 3:If I go off at 4 AM it is a choice, right it's a choice.
Speaker 2:It's a choice. Well, Like I said, man, I really appreciate y'all coming on Giving some advice to, you know, either newlyweds or couples that have been married for a while, or maybe going through something, or couples that probably finna think about it. You feel what I'm saying Because, like I said, I really want to show the side that you know it's not just marriage not going to be a walk in the park.
Speaker 2:I mean, this is for me too, like I'm. You know I'm asking for other people, but it's for me too, because I'm not married. You feel what I'm saying? So just you know, knowing what to expect. I know, of course you got to give and take, of course you got to give and take, but I do think my main thing is making sure that you find the right person.
Speaker 1:And if it doesn't?
Speaker 2:feel right, don't do it.
Speaker 1:It's not right, yeah, if it doesn't feel right. You have one doubt, so you have one doubt.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh. I would say that One doubt. I mean that's important, that's important.
Speaker 1:I'm sure.
Speaker 2:If it's one thing that comes to mind. I don't know about this. Okay, yeah, with guys probably.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I would say see what your doubts are, but I would also say, understand that what you may see something else look like like you may see Ken and I on these Christmas pictures like oh, they just look just so put together. You don't know what went into that Focus on you and that person. Like it's so personal Relationships. You can get all the advice you want, but the relationship itself is so personal. It's so between just you and that person and God. If that's what you believe in.
Speaker 3:And so it's like you want to know. This is our journey. My relationship may not look like my mom's or my parents or my step-moms and this, or my step-dad and this or this, and that it may not look like that. This is your journey. I can give you all the advice I want in the world, but at the end of the day, you two have to function together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got to Do what works for y'all, this is y'all's journey, after the wedding, after the reception, after the courthouse, whatever you choose. Understand that's you guys'. Journey together and surround yourself with people, like-minded people, couples or even singles, because can fans of single, my friends of single that can give you better insight on so single people can still give great insight. Please don't think they can't just because you're married now you don't. I mean, it's good to have married friends, but know who to have around you when it comes to your marriage. Know your family. Don't need to know everything, your mama cannot know everything that's going on.
Speaker 2:That's important Because you're gonna forgive them.
Speaker 3:laying down with them your mama's still gonna be thinking about how they say this to you. So, be careful who you letting your business Pray for your marriage, pray for your spouse, Pray for them, pray with them, Be able to create that space with each other. This is y'all's journey. It's nobody else's Like seriously. No matter what Ken and I say, it's still y'all's.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that. I think that was a big one, for I let y'all go, don't let everybody know about y'all business.
Speaker 1:No, you can't. That may be the number one thing. That's the number one thing that may be the number one thing, but between y'all.
Speaker 2:I need to stay between y'all.
Speaker 3:Unless I just wanna put that out there for the listeners Unless it's an unsafe thing going on.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But other than that, no, if you you know no, because a lot of times you gonna hear what they been through and you know every time it's not good.
Speaker 3:Some of the situation is not yours, that's not your situation.
Speaker 1:I agree with that Because it happened at a different time. You know what I'm saying. That too. These times are different, so what may affected you back 10 years ago or 20 years ago? It's not the same as this time.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's true, kyle. The last thing I'm talking about because I was gonna ask y'all how much advice do y'all take. I like how you said that you know your journey or your journey. So I mean, even if you ask people that may been married for 20 years for advice, how much other advice do you take? If it's like you know, do you take that and you know, put it on your situation, like how do you do?
Speaker 3:that I take in what feels right. A lot of people have so much love for Ken and I mean, look Ken, all my family love Ken, and so you know, friends too, they look they team Ken. And so if I were to go out and talk with the girls or whatever, their advice is always to uplift and this and that, and so I take some things that I know that I'm willing to do and you know, especially if it's gonna better us, I take some of that. I don't know how much I take, but I put probably my little spin on it and I feel like Ken should have the LA too with his homeboys, even his single guy friends, go hang out with them If you need to go with them and be like man, my wife being a b-day bro she getting on my nerves.
Speaker 3:You can say that like you gotta let that out. So if we you know when you come home and you talk, you didn't let out at a gress, you're that mean?
Speaker 2:you could just talk.
Speaker 3:I think it's so good, but you gotta know who you're talking to. That's all I'm saying. You gotta, and you will know, you will know, even if you know it'll show you gonna know who you're talking to when it comes to you and your spouse. And so that's the thing with Ken and I. We won't even with that vice. You know, just take it, take it as is, if it feels right, like yeah, you know what they saying is right, that makes sense, and you know you kind of take it and you know, maybe put your own little spin on it and you know you take it in. It's nothing wrong with that. But when I give advice I try to be unbiased about it. You know, even if my sister or a close friend of mine asks me this and that I'm gonna look at it as a whole, am I gonna look at it as, oh, this is my best friend, I need to be on her side? No, I'm gonna just tell you what it is and that's I like that. Tell me what it is, victoria, you know, you wrong.
Speaker 2:You are wrong.
Speaker 3:I can be told I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:I mean, I like it but I can be told but I respect that. That's big, that's big. I appreciate you saying that because you know that you hear like the woman supposed to always be right and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Not necessarily it's some stuff that Ken have pointed out to me. Like you know what I'm like, you know what he is right. Now I may not take him in there, mommy, cause I'm rolling my ass. But he right, you know. Let me simmer it down.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I think it's important to have opposite friends too. Like she has guy friends she may talk to them.
Speaker 2:Okay, now, now speak on that. Yeah, cause I know a lot of guys wouldn't be comfortable with that. No, you wouldn't be.
Speaker 1:But I mean you have to trust your spouse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you can't be insecure I have you know girlfriends that I talk to about certain stuff.
Speaker 1:But they give me advice on certain stuff.
Speaker 2:That's what's up.
Speaker 3:I think that's okay. Older or?
Speaker 1:younger. I think that's okay.
Speaker 3:That's what's up. You gotta let your spouse be an individual still.
Speaker 2:They feel trapped in a marriage.
Speaker 3:You got some problem. You got a problem Right Right, that's deep Cause why I'm I'm about to be sitting where I got two kids. You can't be worried about what you. You know he better be on the right thing.
Speaker 1:That's deep when she's going out of town with her friend girls or something. I'm not thinking about what she's doing. I'm like, okay, how long are you going to be, Cause you got to get back and help me with each thing. That's what's on my mind. I want him to take that trip.
Speaker 3:Oh, y'all go. Oh, I like that I like that.
Speaker 2:Now, that's important for the marriage, it's so important.
Speaker 1:You shouldn't feel trapped in your marriage.
Speaker 2:You know how some people like it's me and you now.
Speaker 3:You don't need no friends, it's just me and you.
Speaker 1:No, no, you need that yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what's up.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a girl or a guy, friend, I don't think you matter. That's what's up.
Speaker 3:I don't either. Kenne gave me no reason to not trust what he do he go to Houston. He hanging out Cause someone asked me like you know you so comfortable even at home coming People, be like y'all so comfortable, just going, y'all separate yeah go talk to whoever I'm about to go over here we chilling that's what's up, that's what's up, that's what's up, that's what's up.
Speaker 2:Like I said, a lot of people don't believe in that. A lot of females I like that. They don't want you to speak to them. That's not me.
Speaker 3:Yes, I see that I ain't speaking for all females, but that's just not me. I'm like, no, I've seen men. You know I got brothers, you know I got cousins, I got you know guy, male influenced, and I just I've seen not saying that's their situation, but I've seen where men are, you know feel like I can't do nothing.
Speaker 2:I can't even speak to no female, I can't even give them a little firehose. I ain't no, what?
Speaker 3:No? We still in the we're one. We're going to work together and do what we need to do for this constitution, this marriage, but we still individual people now.
Speaker 2:See, I love that. So y'all are one, y'all operate as one but, y'all still make it important to live individually.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's important. That's important. I think people, I think that's the perfect way to like to you know, saying cap this off. You know what I'm saying. Like that was the perfect advice, honestly, honestly. Well, like I said, I appreciate y'all coming on, man. Like I said, I really enjoyed this conversation Cause.
Speaker 2:I know your guys been married for a while. So you guys you know two people I really wanted to talk to and everything you know which I'm not, you know, having a traditional wedding and everything, even though y'all say y'all, finna, do a big for the viral and all of that I need you to.
Speaker 3:We gonna start with you.
Speaker 2:It do a big. You gotta be there. Yeah, well, of course you know I'm there, man, but, like I said, I appreciate y'all giving you know people advice and everything y'all coming on being able to open up with us and everything. And you know I'm gonna let y'all go, man.
Speaker 1:Let y'all go. So we love what you're doing too, man.
Speaker 2:Man, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Incredible party, I'm telling you, it's all over you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3:When you get your first million, give me 10. Hey, listen, come on now. Come on now.
Speaker 2:You already know Y'all like this, y'all like this.
Speaker 3:Y'all like this.
Speaker 2:Y'all like this I already told you, I'm gonna order a thousand suits, man Y'all ain't been. Look, look, it's up. I don't like them, man, so I'm gonna let y'all go. So I appreciate y'all tuning in to the Puffer Vendor podcast. You know this wonderful, amazing couple just gave dropped some gems, some true gems. So I hope y'all check it out, pay attention, you know what I'm saying, really get something from it. So until next time we're gonna hollet you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cars Laundry.