The Preferred Vendor Podcast

From Humble Beginnings to Cigar Mastery: The Story of Chief

July 29, 2023 Chief Anu Season 1 Episode 4
From Humble Beginnings to Cigar Mastery: The Story of Chief
The Preferred Vendor Podcast
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The Preferred Vendor Podcast
From Humble Beginnings to Cigar Mastery: The Story of Chief
Jul 29, 2023 Season 1 Episode 4
Chief Anu

Looking for a unique touch to add to your wedding? Chief of Jackson, Mississippi’s only cigar maker and tobacconist at the Country's Squire, has the answer, Cigar Parties! In the episode, Chief shares his journey from humble beginnings to becoming a boutique cigar designer with Satoria Tobacco, a brand that is now making waves in the cigar world across 14 countries and 42 states. Get ready to unravel the mystique of cigars as Chief dispels myths, discusses the changing dynamics of the industry and reveals the meticulous process behind creating custom blends.

One of the most exciting insights in this episode is the increasing role women play in the cigar industry. Women, once considered outliers, are now dominating various aspects of the industry, from cigar manufacture to the creation of unforgettable moments through cigar parties. Learn about the women making their mark, like Octavia, the founder of Atlanta Cigar Week. You will also get a peek into Chief's thoughts on fashion, personal style and how dressing well is a form of self-respect.

In the last part of our episode, Chief takes us through the significance of authenticity, being a team player, and the importance of cultural representation in the journey to success. He delves into his reflections on legacy, celebrating success, and the significance of passing on resources and knowledge to future generations. As we wrap up, we pay tribute to Smiley Man - a Jackson, Mississippi legend, who left an unforgettable impact on Chief's life. Tune in to hear all this and more in this engaging conversation with Chief.

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Looking for a unique touch to add to your wedding? Chief of Jackson, Mississippi’s only cigar maker and tobacconist at the Country's Squire, has the answer, Cigar Parties! In the episode, Chief shares his journey from humble beginnings to becoming a boutique cigar designer with Satoria Tobacco, a brand that is now making waves in the cigar world across 14 countries and 42 states. Get ready to unravel the mystique of cigars as Chief dispels myths, discusses the changing dynamics of the industry and reveals the meticulous process behind creating custom blends.

One of the most exciting insights in this episode is the increasing role women play in the cigar industry. Women, once considered outliers, are now dominating various aspects of the industry, from cigar manufacture to the creation of unforgettable moments through cigar parties. Learn about the women making their mark, like Octavia, the founder of Atlanta Cigar Week. You will also get a peek into Chief's thoughts on fashion, personal style and how dressing well is a form of self-respect.

In the last part of our episode, Chief takes us through the significance of authenticity, being a team player, and the importance of cultural representation in the journey to success. He delves into his reflections on legacy, celebrating success, and the significance of passing on resources and knowledge to future generations. As we wrap up, we pay tribute to Smiley Man - a Jackson, Mississippi legend, who left an unforgettable impact on Chief's life. Tune in to hear all this and more in this engaging conversation with Chief.

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Speaker 2:

We are back. We are back, we are back. I got a special, special, special, special, special guest on. You know, my partner, man, my good friend. We don't became, you know, closer. You know I'm saying over the past couple of years and everything, man, and you know, being able to see your growth and everything. So once I got my podcast going, I got to have my gown. You feel what I'm saying. I got to, so I'm going to let you introduce yourself for the good people man.

Speaker 1:

For the tribe local and the tribe worldwide. It's chief of New City. I'm in Rock Heather, from the north side of the Jack president of your hill, to be exact, here with my dog Partief and to do the damn thing.

Speaker 2:

Hey, man, there it is. I'm going to have to create me something like that, man, you know what I'm saying. I need to create me a little speed like that coming into it. Man, that's the one you got. That damn pack, baby, you got that damn pack, man. Good know, good know, I'm waiting for we get into a kind of kind of a plan where we at right now, man, what are we doing?

Speaker 1:

Right now we are Mississippi's oldest tobacco retailer, the country's squire. The proprietor is John David Cole, one of my great friends, the godfather of my son, what's up? Very special place, man. I did a lot of tuning to my journey here. I'm currently a tobacconist here and for people who don't know what a tobacco- is it's?

Speaker 1:

pretty much anybody who handles premium tobacco as a professional. That's hookah, that's cigarettes, that's pipes, that's cigars. Anything with the word tobacco in it we covered, we have it here and that's what we do for a living. So this is where we at man, mississippi's oldest man. So living history 1970, august 11th. Man, when it was founded, man. And been a hell of a run. People coming from all around the world to be here, man, to celebrate and to take part in the thing that I love. I think I call my profession, man.

Speaker 1:

So shout out to John David, shout out to the country's squire staff man. Hell of a place to do it with.

Speaker 2:

Man, hell of a place, man. I was like, yeah, we got to listen. We going to make a special trip to come out here. Man, you know what I'm saying? It's only right, bro. It's only right so, real quick, before we get into the spirit, to explain people who may not know exactly what you do. I know you say you know you're a tobaccoist, here and everything. But, just kind of explaining to people like what exactly do you do?

Speaker 1:

Okay, so so again, for the people, man, a tobacco is someone who deals with the premium retail side of tobacco over the manufacturer and the distribution and production, mass production. So my personal brand, Satoria Tobacco there's. A lot of people may know me on social media Satoria Tobacco, that's my personal brand. Man, I'm a cigar maker man. I use the term or try to coin the term, boutique cigar designer. So a huge part of my brand is fashion. A huge part of my brand is also the tobacco.

Speaker 1:

So you know first, a merger of two things, my favorite two industries. Man, it's been beautiful man, so y'all, I'm Mississippi's only a cigar maker. I'm the youngest cigar maker in the nation. Right now we distributed in 14 countries man, 42 states man. We doing great man, have done it for some of the biggest names and some of the names that people may not know, but it's still all the more important to me, and where it is in function is kind of like my start, and that's catapult me into a good business that is.

Speaker 2:

That was the perfect segue, man, because you already know what we talk about here, man the preferred vendor podcast. So I'm going to be putting some of the top vendors, you know in the state and in the world. You know what I'm saying Preferred vendor baby, that's fine. Preferred vendor podcast. That's fine you already know it, man, you definitely, you, definitely a preferred vendor.

Speaker 1:

You feel the same you definitely a preferred vendor.

Speaker 2:

man Shout out to preferred vendor podcast man, yes, lord we need these conversations.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir, this is still going on with it.

Speaker 2:

It got to be talked about, man. We need people to know. We got to tell them people to know, man, from a vendor side, you know what I'm saying. Perspective, like, don't get me wrong. I still talk to my couples and everything you know, but mostly preventive vendors. You feel what I'm saying? Just give people a light because you know, I'm sure, especially now, a lot of people may be looking at you like, oh, I'm thinking about having a cigar bar at my wedding and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

So you said you know you got to start a wedding and everything Give me a. I want you to give me a little rundown on like what you love about rolling cigars at weddings.

Speaker 1:

first, man, I'm a person that's huge on experiences, bro Like I really like to see people at the highlight of their time, you know, of course, like working in different industries before I kind of like found my home in. Tobacco. I did law enforcement, I did military.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So when you're meeting people in them type of circumstances always like in a bad life or the worst moment of their lives.

Speaker 1:

So you get a chance to see people congregate out of love, come in to celebrate love, come in to have a good time. Those experiences are always pretty dope. On the financial side of things, weddings is a big budget line item where we really kind of we kind of lose the how much this costs, how much this costs, how much this costs, and we really try to take the time to jump off into what it's going to take to provide a dope experience, which means everything to me. Man, seeing people smile, people coming from far and wide, yeah, it's a special thing, bro. And weddings for me was where I got my foot with Okay, and I'm done all kinds of weddings, man, I don't. If it's a place to have cigars to be rolled, I done it everything, but weddings probably is my favorite one.

Speaker 2:

That's what's up. That's what's up. So if I'm a couple, right, if I'm a groom, you know running over the budget and everything, why should I budget a cigar party at my wedding?

Speaker 1:

I say it if y'all haven't had a chance to watch my party profile shout out to Dirty Nekes. You know what I'm saying. Make sure y'all check that out. And I covered cigars. Are typically a thing that's used to celebrate stuff. Yeah, achievements, graduations, births, you know, weddings, you know anything that tributes to more life, more success, more happiness. It's a time that a cigar is prevalent and I think if someone wants to elevate their taste levels you know what I'm saying it really put a memorable experience on. Then there is no detail that could be looked over. You know you can have some cigars laying out on the table for people to just have, or you can have the chief come make a handmade for you and let me bless people with the hands.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, so it's a beautiful thing for me. So if I tell somebody who's looking into getting an event together, putting something together, that's about this I say, man, go all out, go all out, go all out. Make the experience a memorable experience. Hopefully you'll only get married once, but some people who get married more than once you know. But I think there's no time, like the president.

Speaker 1:

Just do it big and do it big today and I think even in the middle of the event the groom and bride, I'm roaming around having a good time. It's a lot of emotions running but you want to see that even in the sub set of your event it's different people having the max experience. Maybe that person likes a wine sommelier, which I had a wine sommelier on the other side.

Speaker 1:

Well then you get that experience. Okay, you got a nice pairing of wine or a nice suggestion for whiskey, but then you come on the other side and here's a nice comparable pairing on the cigar side to compliment what you're drinking, and both are complimenting what you're eating and both are complimenting the overall ambiance of the place. I think it just makes a magical experience.

Speaker 2:

Man that's beautiful, like that man. So if you thinking about getting the cigar bar, if you thinking about doing it big for your wedding, first call should be him. You feel what I'm saying? What call is that? I tried to reach towards you. One call, that's all baby. So I heard you just mentioned you know you could either do, you could get there on, you know you could roll it for them pre, I guess, pre-roll and just have them there or you can have the experience.

Speaker 1:

So, camera.

Speaker 2:

Talk about a little bit of both. So talk about. Well, first let's talk about the experience. So what is the the fullest experience? So, like someone booking you, what can they expect? I mean, I know people, know people that may follow you on Instagram, but people that may not, then maybe they first introduction. What is the fullest experience?

Speaker 1:

Man, it's lavish from the top to the bottom. Man. I take a lot of time making sure that it's not what I want, but it's what they want you know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that I'm not going to be a fan of opulence. I always say that I'm the glorified hill. You know what I'm saying? I don't mind being the hill and I think people, when y'all looking for weddings and looking for venue, looking for people to kind of participate and make your experience a dope experience, I think you really should look into someone who really cares about you having a good time at your event. But that's what they paying for.

Speaker 1:

So I don't come into events with the ego. So from the very beginning, it's all about hey, how can we make this event special? So in my consultation process with my clients, man, I started asking them if they're going to have an open bar, then what whiskies or cocktails will be featured. Based on those featured, I get a kind of ideal of what the type of people that'll be there, what type of foods they may eat or not like. So let's say, if it's all vodka or all whiskey or all wine, those all have different respective pairings. So what I do, man, I customize it from the beginning. So let's say, we're going to have an all wine one.

Speaker 1:

For the sake of this conversation, I say, okay, hey, each one of my events. I craft custom blends that are not. You can't repeat them. It's for this moment and this is stuff that you can cherish, and even my clients are able to have the ability to come back and buy those private blends from their special event at their own leisure. So we start from the bottom, making sure that we get that right custom blends. Then we move into the part where the attire is a big thing. So, of course, we plan for the brides and groomsmen and everybody to make sure that they it's no-transcript, it's a fashionable occasion, of course. So you know there's already a lot of money spent on how things are going to look. So that's another thing that I take very, very serious. When I get booked for an event man, I make sure that the thing, whatever the thing, means that I fall in line with the theme and I spend money on that. Shout out to my tailor man, kairis.

Speaker 2:

Customs man, all my events man.

Speaker 1:

He keep me laced up with something fresh for every event. That's part of that thing, to make sure that I'm in line, you know what I'm saying. And then from then I educate people, man, because I think a lot of times people like luxury line items but sometimes may not be, you know, too knowledgeable on the subject matter. So I take the time with each customer you know being around to see me and work with it.

Speaker 1:

Well, I talk to them about proper pairing, the proper etiquette, how to really indulge, you know, to really take a, take a and develop a fun respect for what they're partaking in right there. You know it's like being able to watch Hibachi. You know you can go get Hibachi from the store and just kind of get it out ready to prepackage. You watching cause like slice up the eggs and set the fire. You kind of like, yeah, watch the whole thing being done.

Speaker 1:

And that's a showcase ending of itself, man. So I spend that time from top to bottom making sure if you're a player, you get served. All players get served on the Boulevard.

Speaker 2:

You know and.

Speaker 1:

I found. I found in my line of work that most of the Mark customers who do the bookings are women. Okay, and so that may seem odd, but most of the women are involved in wedding planning. The event planning maybe it's a secretary for an attorney or something.

Speaker 1:

So capturing them details from the beginning. I'm very attentive to what the sisters like and the sisters are really like making sure every little detail. You know if it's going to be timely, if you're going to have the right colors, are you going to make sure that the advertising or the branding for the packaging is right? So from the labor of love and scrutiny I have faced and have learned from different sisters around, have made my business, what it is man, and so that's who I cater to on the pitch. You know, and I've come, it's kind of found out you know sisters will spend the money on a nice experience.

Speaker 2:

But it need to be an experience, got to be an experience, you know what I'm saying and that's what it helped me tailor.

Speaker 1:

So my social event package is my most often one and that's the one that it comes like 50 to 100 cigars. That's the guest kind of a thing that normally happens.

Speaker 2:

Everybody say, well, only 20 people going smoke cigar and then everybody get there, it's going to be gone and it's free. 100 cigars gone, yeah, then it's free.

Speaker 1:

Everybody going to take something.

Speaker 2:

But by the time.

Speaker 1:

I come and set everything up. It's lavish. They want to come over here and take some pictures.

Speaker 2:

They want to come by.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you know you can go to the resort or I can bring the resort to you and I look at that like I bring the resort to you. I want you to think about a modern Jeffrey. So you know I'm your butler for the two hours for this thing and I don't come in there and I come in there. I'm proud of that and that has led me transcend and make a niche for myself and I don't build the wonderful brand off that. Be the help.

Speaker 2:

Guys and girls be the help.

Speaker 1:

That's what you are. You know what I'm saying. You come in it's day wedding. It ain't your wedding, it ain't your photo op. It's your time to make sure that when they leave it's nothing but smiles. You know what I'm saying. I'm there before they get there and I'm there most of the time long after they gone. You know what I'm saying. Making sure that. You know I go the extra mile to make sure it's peak. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

I mean. So why is that important to you? Because you know, now you got the following, now you have a name. So why is it still providing that experience? I mean you could show up, you know, take a couple pictures and you know and do you feel what I'm saying. So why is it still providing that full service like this, your first wedding? Why is that important to you? I can't imagine like your first wedding, you know you probably you know saying with the extra extra mile. Why is it still going to ask the mile? So important to you?

Speaker 1:

Man, the extra mile help you make it another mile. You know what I'm saying. I look at it like this my first wedding was in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Shout out to Doug Conner, one of my friend brothers. Man, he gave me a shot my first gig man. I did the gig for $500.

Speaker 1:

You know, what I'm saying. Dro had his bird and that put me on, you know. It gave me the opportunity to showcase and what I found was people appreciate the extra mile, like the detail of it all. They want it. I'm more worried about making you look bad. I don't want you to look bad.

Speaker 1:

I'm so concerned about this. So it's like you going to your wedding. You know how people gossip y'all, y'all watch, y'all. Go to weddings. Y'all. Don't be in the wedding. The food was cold or they ran out of liquor or something like that. That's the part that they're going to take with you, because a lot of people believe in the night. I know y'all probably know this. People come to your weddings and some people don't really be there for the wedding.

Speaker 2:

They be there for the food and I'm beyond some free stuff.

Speaker 1:

So I don't want it's not about me I want to make sure that at least when you talk about my part of the occasion it was five and then you can appreciate that I cared more about. I cared just as much as you cared about making sure you had a good day. So the extra mile man for me is if you go to Chick-fil-A, you ain't never got charged for extra sauce. You can ask for as much ketchup, as much Polynesian or honey mustard, and if you leave without it, that takes your caught in. And just from that you see that Chick-fil-A is nowhere close to going out of business. They're not charging for the details. You got a 10 piece nugget. They feel like you should have one sauce. So for me, man, I got enough sauce to give around. You know what I'm saying. Convince me to sauce man bars. You know what I'm saying. So I just give out the sauce man Anything. I appreciate that. And if y'all look into like study business man it was one like business quote guy was like just give them the pickle, like whatever else that you can hand them, that's extra. Everybody like goodies. You know. You go to weddings, you get party favors, goodies. Those are extras, those are thank yous for coming. So my version of thank you for coming and thank you for supporting me, man, is to do anything like for summer solstice for Highland Village.

Speaker 1:

Man, they pay for a package that came with a certain amount of cigars, but everybody wanted it. I stayed two hours after the event was over and then the people that I couldn't serve because the event was over, we just had to go. I got names and numbers and I physically drove around and dropped cigars off to people afterwards. But what did they do for me? They let people know that one. I was so serious about my business and I was so serious that they got what they paid for. If the thing, the event, said that it came with a cigar in your ticket, you didn't get a cigar just because I ran out of cigars. Don't worry, I'm going to come to your job with it. I drove forward, I drove as far as Forrest, mississippi, the next day to take cigars. Man, and what them people do? They booked me for the event. They like that guy's not going to let y'all leave without being happy. And that's my brand. My brand is being to nice help man, wow man, that's my brand, that's amazing.

Speaker 1:

So, no matter what they see on social media, I'm not a Hollywood cat, I'm a cat that's for the people, by the people. You know what I'm saying and we're changing the world. Once a guy at a time, man and I had some beautiful conversations and that's probably the biggest part, bro, the conversations that I have with people. Dude from the cigar. I've made lifelong friends over the years. It's not just in a cigar shop man. I've met people I've talked to every day since I've serviced their wedding Like.

Speaker 1:

I've gotten updates on children that they done had, you know, since they got married, and then you know I follow up with stuff like that. So if it was your wedding and then you have a six month later, y'all expecting a child, you're getting a box of cigars for me.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. This is you had a moment to celebrate your marriage, that you have another birth, and you ain't got to pay me for that. I'm saying because I know that when it's time for you to think about somebody, asking about a new experience or something to try, that you would think about me just because of how well I handled you. You know what I'm saying, and our friendship will come right away with you.

Speaker 2:

Man, that's amazing man. So for all you know any upcoming brand, any upcoming you know person in the service industry, whether you take pictures, whether you serve food, whether you bar to anything, they going to Ersta Myles is, you know, really number one. So you had to get some advice real fast to people that might be up and coming because people see you know what you're doing, how you don't build your brand and stuff and people may want to be like that, but it's outside of the social media, like the social media is one point of it, but really you know that attention to detail, customer service will be your number one advice for someone coming up in any type of field.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Know your industry. Yeah, you know it's my. You can't never go wrong. You got to know what tools you're working with. You need to definitely know your tools For me, I do cigars right, that's my thing right, but that's part. That's one microcosm of the hospitality industry as a whole.

Speaker 1:

Right, Hospitality industry If you are the whole hotels, resorts, musicians, venues, wedding planners, wine, samoyed, certified bourbon, stewardies, photographers, videographers, balloons, light specialists, audio specialists all of you people are together to help provide one mass experience. So I never get too caught up on just the tobacco. It's always about the hospitality industry. I'm in hospitality management, my specialty is tobacco, okay, and so that's what I focus on. And my grandma made this quote wherever there's a community, there's an economy. So you got to spend more time building the community out of guys and girls.

Speaker 1:

I made sure that at every event, I networked with every chef, every bartender, every musician, because we all stuff back in the kitchen while the event going on. So we got a lot of time to talk. We got a lot of time to talk about best practices. So when you are out here, don't think because you the DJ and you a notable DJ, that you're too good to talk to the bartender, because the bartender is going to give you a drink. You got to drink the night. You know the chef. The chef got to eat, but the chef wants something to drink. The chef want to hear some jams. The chef may want a cigar.

Speaker 1:

These are the people that are in your industry, man, and I always say, network, network. This way Sometimes it's not top and bottom, but it's side to side. The new resource is collaboration. The new resource is collaboration. I'm going to repeat it again the new resource is collaboration. So if you are, you want to be the person that the other help recommend, I believe it or not. Guys and girls, outside of the wedding and event plan is normally people come ask people who work the Chitlin circuit. So if you the photographer, you the wedding videographer, they say hey, wait for a T.

Speaker 1:

You, you know somebody that do cigars or you know somebody that's a good bartender, you know what shelf? Well, you know all of them people. You know what I'm saying when you ended up putting your whole team in position. I can't tell you how many times I've seen DJ cool Cool, cool you out at a event. Or I've seen a chef JB is something, or I seen you there, or I seen Stephanie yeah no. Performing, or Tiger Rogers performing or something. I'm always at an event with these people. It makes sense to say, okay, cool Joe, how can I support your business? What can I share? Yeah, if you, if you're going to be in the event, because you never know when your name comes and speaking to JB, shout out to Chef JB, my brother man, it's my brother man.

Speaker 1:

It's my brother man, one of the best chefs in the nation. Man, you heard it here first. If you do not believe that man, you're playing yourself. So you know, get some of that fire cooking man. Shout out to my boy on the grind. So, like one of these things, I got a chance to work with Chef Chef JB for the first time through you at the dirty knackers party. Well, now I'm friends and family with all of y'all. So anytime somebody asks me about you know JB is sharing my stuff on Instagram. It cost him nothing to do that, but it's a lot of love. Well, somebody would say that's my favorite show. So anybody that he, that he recommends or shouts out, I want that person to be in my event.

Speaker 1:

And then what you end up finding people is that you make a. You make a, an event staff, all-star team. You got the best photographer, the best shelf, the best musicians, the best DJ, the best bartender service, the. You know the best landscape, the best light company. The next thing you know all of them. People don't work together at 10 events prior to this one, so they know the routine. I know that party want to eat his plate before he worked. So Chef JB put the plate out there for you. You know what I'm saying. He said okay, well, I know a new dawn really drink while he on, while he working. So I'm going to get him an alcoholic beverage. You know what I'm saying. Then next time, you know teamwork, make the dream work. That's my advice.

Speaker 2:

That was beautiful man, and my favorite thing I heard you say right there, you know, work out instead of up. You feel what I'm saying? That's important, bro, because you write about that is I mean. I mean they're coming from first saying like I do, way, so I'm just going to talk on weddings. Weddings and events. If someone asked me about I'm not going to refer a vendor that you know I'm saying I ain't got no relationship with I ain't you know. You know maybe he was acting or he or she are dealing with acting too good. You know, saying stuff like that, I'm like I don't want to wear like. You know, I like to stand on my referrals. You feel what I'm saying? Like if you call this person, they're going to come through for you, it's good business.

Speaker 2:

It's good business, it's a thousand percent. So I really love that and I feel like you know, up and coming whatever business that you're in, that was a great nugget, bro, like for real. It worked out y'all.

Speaker 1:

I'm telling y'all, man, a lot of y'all problems is coming from. If you have some problems, man, a lot of the problems is coming for you trying to, you trying to reach too high on the tree branch instead of it, and it's, and it's while Narsha apples already hit the grass already. You know what I'm saying you, you know you trying to, you know, be spectacular and have a hero story because you said you pulled it out the mud, but it's low hanging fruit already, or fruit that are already failed. And what I find is, if I come up with 10 apples that fell on the ground and you had to climb the tree for 10 apples, I worked smarter, not harder. Now, you worked harder to get where you were than I did, but I still came out with the same amount of apples.

Speaker 1:

So and I think that's that goes a lot of goes under value, so spend some time on that, man. Um, and no service is too good to not be critiqued or can evolve from the situation. That's it.

Speaker 1:

The way you handle your photography and videography for your events. You may have best practices on how you prepare. Maybe that's a two week out process. Okay, just because you don't have an, you're not in the same lane or you're not a chef, like my first package and I explained that I made my first package based on how caterers or chefs did their packages on a per plate basis. Okay, and it may sound crazy, cause I used to be like man, these chefs is hidden, these people On the head per plate I'm listening to $20, $30 per plate and they having 300 guests, right. So I'm like, okay, but they had like a base labor fee or like a thousand or $1,500. And then, plus the plates Right, so I took that from a chef. Nobody else was doing that.

Speaker 1:

So I found out a way to get the more bang for the book. So the average cigar box, if quality is between $250 and $300. Right, so I said, okay, let me figure out how to do this in a more practical way. So I looked at the shift. I kept asking a couple shifts how they charge the catering groups, how they charge, and it was per plate. So I said, okay, I'm gonna charge $1,000 for a base labor package that'll cover my travel and some of my, and 500 for travel and 500 for, like, just my little hourly rate. And then it was. So it's 250 an hour.

Speaker 1:

Then I did $20 per stick. So in the service that I probably can make $1,200 on just because I made a different way that I presented the pallet to the market I was able to customize. So now you don't have to pay for 100 cigars, you can pay for exactly the amount you want $60. Well, it's $20 a stick plus a thousand dollars deposit or, well, a labor fee. I came out of a two hour and event $2,500.

Speaker 1:

When I first I was charging $500 for everything you know and so you can learn those things, even how my content game still because of you. You know I'm saying that how I was able to elevate my content and how I did more of a document in this and to prove this point y'all I did. The Congressional Black Caucus man and party man we were, we rolled down together for the event I was by myself and party managed to set up the all of the cameras, all of the audio and everything, and he ended up helping me pass out cigars helping people cut the cigars, helping people like the cigars, and he kept like order.

Speaker 1:

He was my consigliere at the event, which was crazy because he he's used to so much traffic already that it wasn't a big deal for him and without him I wouldn't have made it through the event. You know and that's someone who's worked enough of these types of events to know how to deal with that and from then I changed up how I prepare for the event. Instead of a week of prepare for the event, I'm a month out, so now I got a 30 day lead time. You know I'm saying so I can prepare adequately for all scenarios of how I still can go wrong, where I could make the most impact and make sure that the experience was worth the money.

Speaker 2:

Man. That's amazing. So definitely you got a plan that you don't say that y'all don't get nothing else from that. Planning is important. You feel more saying learn from your experiences that you go through. Don't think that. I think I think a lot of people go wrong where they think, like I got to be at this level off the rift. You feel what I'm saying. You got to grow to this level and then you should appreciate that growth process. You feel what I'm saying. You got to start somewhere, bro my uh.

Speaker 1:

quite frankly, I remember I did the three kings brunch when they were doing brunch and I just started, I was literally on my third event, like it's a very competent and crafty cigar.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy, man, how you, how you roll and how you can. So you think been doing it for 20 years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know and um, and I knew I had the level of expertise. I just had to figure out a way to make it palatable. Gotcha. And what I? What I found was I didn't do enough enough preparing before the event. So I started getting compliments like hey bro, comments like hey man, I know you got a long line.

Speaker 1:

You should probably like roll some cigars before you come and have some pre rolls out to the side or something you know, and I had to figure that out. But I had all my stuff on the fold out table Y'all in the tablecloth man, uh, just four years ago, and uh, it wasn't where I wanted, but I started right now and I think that's the point right now. Some of y'all, please don't get too caught up on everything. Your media got to be perfect. Your audio got to be perfect. You just need to document it because people like the story. You know what I'm saying. They like the origin story.

Speaker 1:

So people can go on my social media and see where I started and then see what I'm doing now. I went from yeah, I went from only, you know, two or 300 people were were liking you know one video. You know what I'm saying. But then now it's now it's millions of views on one thing. You know, just because I kept um focusing on the sauce. But how can I get the secret recipe right? You know what I'm saying. You know the recipe for the big Mac. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

And I didn't recreate the wheel, I just took the wheel that was already there, said, okay, I'm a customer, I'm going to put me some my own rims on the, on the wheel base, and we're going to keep riding. You know what I'm saying? And um, for me that work, bro, and um, you don't have to be right now, but you will be playing yourself if you don't start. You know, and I think that's a big deal. I started, I kept going and I seen it through completion and I took every bad comment, every, every complaint, every um. I wish it could have had this. I took all of it in consideration. In business, especially in the experience oriented, uh, space, guys and girls, and hospitality. Hospitality meaning you showing love to others. It ain't about you receiving the love, and that's what I spend time on, man that's beautiful man.

Speaker 2:

But before we keep rolling man, I'm going to get you to show me on camera how do I like one of these bad boys up man. Okay, my favorite, let's do this on camera.

Speaker 1:

Dawg All right, so I'm going to explain it. So, my people, this is part of the experience. I do this all the time. So we got a lounge straw, your match. You could use a butane lighter, um, but I'm going to use a match cut just like it that way, okay. So I'm going to light it for you, my brother, so players get served. That's my motto. So we doing that. So what we doing right now is toasting the cigar. So essentially, what we doing is three parts of the cigar wrapper binding filler. I want you to compare it to like a new relationship, so everybody's kind of mission to learn, to get, get going together. So what you want to do is you see the apex of the flame, you want to run it here into the side, and then you know, and you post a, set it up to where, where the, where the bottom part begins to smoke, and you want to twist it in a circle to make sure that it's even. It's even burn all the way through. So we lighten three parts of the tobacco at one time.

Speaker 1:

And then once you kind of get, you may need to use another match. You know that's no problem. But what you really want to do is make sure that you get. You see, now you're seeing it start to smoke. Now that's when you know you got it going on. And then when you start to look at it, then you will see the ass. And when we doing this at events, y'all see, right now I'm not putting my mouth on the cigar, you know what I'm saying. That's nasty what we doing now. If you can look at it, you see it smoking out.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so now we got. Now we just need one more match, and then from there, you ready to smoke and I didn't have to touch your cigar.

Speaker 2:

You have to put your mouth on it, you have to puff it.

Speaker 1:

I didn't have to do nothing.

Speaker 2:

Some people that's doing that, especially for other people, that's wrong.

Speaker 1:

That's absolutely wrong. It's you should have. Is is less touching and fun to live with the cigars you can. If it was my preferences, I wouldn't roll in cigars live. I normally would probably have some gloves on just to keep the oils off my own hands from going on people, stuff. You know what I'm saying. So that's very, very important. So now we, now we now we've not put for a couple of times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you smoking, all right. So now I'm now I'm hitting out for the sake of using a butane lighter. Now you can pull on it. So all right, now it's just kind of like it right off in the middle. Let's see if it light up again. So we got a fluid, now you can pull a little hard on it. That's like that.

Speaker 2:

That's the proper way to light a cigar. Yes, indeed.

Speaker 1:

No germs.

Speaker 2:

So that's how, back until one thing I didn't want to touch on, people think cigars are a man thing, right, and I heard you say that it's mostly women that book you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

Yes, Lord.

Speaker 2:

So kind of fight that you know whatever stigma or you know whatever it is that you know women are supposed to do cigars, or you know women may not like cigars, or cigars just a man thing, what's it, you know, for a woman that might be thinking about it for her wedding or something like that. Like you know, just say like you know this is a good thing, Okay.

Speaker 1:

We all know if a fella doing what he's supposed to do, then he putting down the finances, he providing the luxury lifestyle. Cigars is a luxury lifestyle. Typically, when you go to Cuba, you go to, you know, like Guam, puerto Rico, jamaica, you know. Wherever you're hitting the resource, you know cigars is part of the equation and in the cigar community, most of the people who make cigars in the factories are women and I want to say that again, most of the people who are making cigars inside of the factories are women. Wow, because this is an extremely high dexterity type of craft. Women with smaller hands you know what I'm saying Can handle very fine tobaccos with a level of precision that you know with your hands and even my hands, could become problematic. You know what I'm saying. But now in the cigar game right now, man, women are making a huge, huge, huge leadway. They make every brand that pops pops because of women. Everything, fellas, please, if y'all haven't had a cigar before, y'all haven't really just got into the industry. Men and women are forced to be reckoned with. These are the people that are spending the money. These are the people. Maybe her husband likes cigars, but her husband wouldn't spend $4,000 on the experience, but it's for his 50th birthday. She found the best person that she could get to put a comprehensive experience together for her husband. And a lot of times when the sisters call, they are very, very, very knowledgeable on what they're asking for, what their expectations are and how they expect the experience to look. And if something is wrong with your experience, the sisters in the cigar community would be the very first people to tell you. Because you're playing games. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Most of my customers are women because women are handling the experience. Women are paying for these things. They're orchestrating these, even when you have big birthday parties for the fellas most of these. Like man, I want to thank my wife and everybody for putting this together. You know what I'm saying For me. And all of those things are meant to make her husband be at ease. You know her boyfriend, her uncle, her father. You know what I'm saying. It shows nice tools of appreciation.

Speaker 1:

We know that most times men get gifts like bow ties and tight sets and socks and stuff. There's some player stuff to be made. Let's think about your sister. Your husband drink Jack Daniels and you was able to get Jack Daniels to come down. Or Uncle Neri. Shout out to Uncle Neri, which is ran by a sister, come on now In the hospitality industry, come on, you see what I'm saying. So she's very knowledgeable on proper parents, with tobacco and food and stuff, and she's dealing with the best of chefs, the best of wine sommariers, the best of bourbon stewardies, the best of tobacco makers. You know what I'm saying To provide an honorable experience. So the sisters are making a very good headway. Please don't be fooled, fellas, thinking that the women may not know what's going on. If you want the most player thing going on in your event, man, a sister going to be the one to bring it to you. I guarantee you that.

Speaker 2:

I love that, I love that. So so, and women smoke cigars too. Yes, lord.

Speaker 1:

Yes, lord yes, lord yes, man, shout out to my favorite cigar female cigar influencer, man, her official, not, oh, man, that's Octavia. She is the founder of Atlanta Cigar Week, wow. So if anybody have never seen Atlanta Cigar Week, one of the biggest cigar weeks in the nation, man, they've been doing this now for a number of years. Man, she has this, this trademark, called she Smokes Too, which is very you know what I'm saying. She smokes too, and it's always really, really, really powerful, man, what she does, man, and her way to bring sisters, bring, and wherever there's nice looking sisters, the fellas ain't too far behind. Come on now, if you hear, think about it.

Speaker 1:

Y'all, y'all go to the club. Y'all hear ladies in free for a living man. I get on the phone and say, hey, come on, what is it looking like in there? Oh, they in there. Okay, well, brogdon, put on his face, put on his chain, watch his face today. He probably didn't watch it yesterday. Yeah, they come out because the suit is out.

Speaker 1:

So now you know, some fellas, you know, come in and buy women cheap cigars, thinking that she don't know how to smoke. And that's like taking a woman to a nice steak or a nice steak restaurant and you getting her some cheap liquor or some cheap food or something. You know what I'm saying. Like taking a woman to McDonald's. You know what I'm saying. Do we really want to do that? You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, please be advised, man. I made the mistake early on in my game and I got corrected once, and once was enough. You know what I'm saying. After that, man, now my whole brand is catered around the detail-oriented connoisseur of experience and most of the times 95% of the time that's coming from the sisters.

Speaker 2:

Man, that's amazing. Right there, man, I ain't know that, though I'm gonna have to check out Atlanta, atlanta cigar.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to Atlanta Cigar Week, man. So yeah, look up her aficionado, like you got the magazine Cigar Aficionado, hers is her aficionado man. She a gorgeous sister man, beautiful spirit man, very much a people person. Those amazing, amazing, amazing events, bro, and well, well needed in our current climate, especially as Black people. You know what I'm saying. It's Black history man. So that's very good to put into context, man, and she's doing a very good job of showing us at our best. You know what I'm saying, wearing our best and feeling our best. And shout out to her for taking that movement and doing what she's doing and inspiring many other cities to put cigar weeks in place and what we finding out right now, man, we got cigar like Birmingham. Shout out to Cigar Festival and stuff. Man, shout out to Priprofaction205. She's another sister man who's really doing it and doing it well, man.

Speaker 2:

So the sisters, man Sisters doing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, in the Cigar gang they going to do all the buy-in for you, man, Play-in. If you're your husband, she going to buy all the cigars for you. You got a nice cigar case man, she going to be the one to buy for you. You got any tickets to some kind of thing? She going to be the one to buy for you. So then the people that if you selling some in my particular industry, you target the sisters first and everything Give us a hand of yourself.

Speaker 2:

Wow, I don't think a lot of people knew that, though Maybe some women that didn't know that. How in the game that women are in to cigar? You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

And I'm glad that it's happening, man, because I don't get into the whole patriarchal struggle and all of that other stuff. But I do think, man, that our sisters in any occasion put a cleansing on something, If something ahead. Too much fluff in it, too much stuff, it's out of pocket. Man, normally when women get involved, everybody tighten up. You was on your bad behavior. When some sisters come around, you tighten up. You know what I'm saying. I think the sisters are made the industry tighten up. Wow, you know what I'm saying, which is beautiful and has catapulted me to where I'm at now. So if y'all go like checking in real time, we on the stats I'm very open about the stats the stats are there, live and proof. You can see. Ain't none of this stuff lies? We ain't making nothing up, it's there. If you see who interacts with my content, 90% of everything is women. Complimenting the aesthetic, complimenting the attire.

Speaker 2:

I can see it in your hand, yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, Complimenting the dexterity and the poise and what I'm trying to mark it off to people. Women pick up onto my news A lot of fellas. I bet he can roll a big blood.

Speaker 2:

That'd be that main thing.

Speaker 1:

That'd be that main thing. I bet he can roll up a big back wall, but sisters be like well, how much this cost. I gotta have this in my wig. We having a sisters night, we gotta have this here. You know what I'm saying and I know that you gotta find your niche, guys and girls, and find it out. So I know I'm reasonably handsome. Okay, I like to believe I'm reasonably handsome.

Speaker 2:

I keep that stuff on.

Speaker 1:

And I'm competent, I know my tools. I think a lot of women appreciate that too, men, especially if a sister is booking you. I think sisters appreciate men who know they craft. You can tell when somebody been working towards their 10,000 hours. When I see JB cooking, I could tell JB do this when the camera's not on. When I see you doing this, I can see you doing this when the camera's not on.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, that you're working on your craft and I think sisters keep the proper valuation on things. If some stuff is inflated and it ain't really worth it, a sister will bring it back down to market value, to what is actually worth. So I spend a lot of time making sure that my presentation, my disposition, my brand and my story origin, my service and the knowledge of my craft is. You know what I'm saying. When I get a sister to say this was amazing, she gonna tell a friend man If she went to a new restaurant. She gonna tell a friend if he was five man.

Speaker 1:

And I support the woman dollar man, I support the woman dollar. I'm here to tell you first man. It's black history man, but it's sister money every day for me. Sisters, man, I love y'all. I appreciate y'all, man. Y'all have helped me, take care of me and minds helped me be able to pay it forward to other people and hold me accountable to my work. I never get complacent because sisters gonna make sure you get your game right. They gonna spend money on it and they don't want to piss their husband out too. Neither you know what I'm saying. They gonna spend all this money and then cause two hours late, you know, got dirty shirts.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying. We know vendors like that. You feel what I'm saying. They were separated man. That's why this is a preferred vendor. Like I said, you a preferred vendor, brother, you feel what?

Speaker 2:

I'm saying. So there's a couple more questions, man, they ain't gonna hold you up too much longer. Man, explain what's the importance of the drip for you, bro. So why do you need to put on the collar shirt? You know what I'm saying? What's your name? So what's the importance of the drip and why is that important to your overallist fans?

Speaker 1:

It's my love language.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying but real quick explain to somebody that may not know what is drip number one oh man, drip means when your cook run a thover with you know what I'm saying Lavish fabrics.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying when you had the anointing of God on your garments. You know what I'm saying. When you come out and you feeling good and you portraying to the world, man, that you in a good place and it's respectable, or where you at, you know, when you go to places and you out of dress code, people tell you that you know what I'm saying, that you know you tripping. You need to go back home and go straight. Enough, you know what I'm saying. So for me, I show up like every day is church. You know what I'm saying. I'm coming to an event man letting you know that I don't care if it's a backyard barbecue, a family reunion, a repass or whatever. I'm going to show up With the best thing I got in my closet for your function. So if everybody else is, you don't pay this quality of money to have me out here. I'm gonna show you their respect.

Speaker 1:

So, and for me, fashion is a love language for me. So I tell people all the time that for me, some people like art fixated on a wall. Man, for me, life is inertia. I said this on dirty knackin season three man, that life is inertia, so that means movement. So when I see these people moving in there, I see their fashion, I see the mood that they're in. You know I say I see the type of stuff they're into. You can tell somebody who into anime if they wearing cosplay. You can tell people who you know, who maybe gym heads, because of what they wear. You know, saying so, you make a very, very fine Assumption about who you are, how you feeling and what you provide, based on what you present yourself in.

Speaker 1:

So for me, anytime I'm out at a function and I show up, I'll show up with that drip I want. My God has blessed me, so I let my cut run it, though I got enough to share. Man, it's well water over here. You know, I'm saying you know and I make sure that I do that man, and it's a my mom used to say all the time and shout out to my dudes man, my said uh. My mama used to say you know, it ain't what you know or who you know is what it looked like. It's what it looked like, is what it looked like. And if you put the respect into yourself, do you respect yourself enough to get dressed. Get up and respect yourself. You may not see, I get fresh every day. I don't miss a day getting fresh.

Speaker 2:

I can second that. It's been times I just met this man, for I think it's a simple meeting and you come in and everybody, you, you definitely Steal the room when you walk in in it. So why is that important, even on a regular day, my name being a bit? Why I think important, sir, when you step out the house, for you to look, you know, top-notch.

Speaker 1:

Man, you can run into the president. Mm-hmm, they ain't no telling where you go, man, I ain't tell you how many places out on being especially like the airport man, I'll be in the airport. I used to go to the airport like I swear pants or something right. But then what if Rick Ross on the plane next to you?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, when you look a certain way, man, people get perplexed and want to know who are you, what you do, and it's an opportunity for you to say yourself my arm, one of my mentors, man BJ, shout out to Arby Norman man. Um, when I was interning with him while he was old, the general manager of hooles, he used to. I used to ask him like man, you come in to work? Man, with Louis V slippers on man and Taylor slacks. He's like man, I run the biggest hooders in the nation. When people walk off in here, they need to look like success. I'm the standard. So for me, even when I I don't want to run into somebody at the gas station but ain't you the sick I mean and be like yeah, I caught you without the suit on.

Speaker 1:

Never seen you like this before. No, no, no yeah and.

Speaker 1:

I always put myself in a position, position where, if I have to advocate on my own behalf Maybe that's a car stop, maybe that's a wreck or maybe that's no running with helping people are being a service. You want to be in the position, man, where you look like somebody that needs to be respected. You know that you, that you, that you, that you look, match up with your top. You know I'm saying and if people, I, I get dressed to plant Flowers if I'm out yard, if I'm out yard, I'm fully clothed planting flowers, I don't care if we walk into the to the bus stop, I got owns their stuff.

Speaker 1:

I believe it. So amen, y'all haven't invested in y'all appearance, man. It ain't gotta be simple or lavish, man. Just find out the look, the art expressive language that work for you man. Uh, take pride in yourself, man. You adorn in yourself in fabric, and I'll be a little crazy with the words, like you know I'm saying. But you know God, god has blessed me, man. I can afford lavish fabrics because God Bestowed the blessings on me to do so and I make sure that when people see me they can tell God is shining on me. You know I'm saying I'm grateful for the opportunity, but I'm a good wheel advocate. You know you can do a lot with less. So you know my tail is tell me about.

Speaker 2:

You know you do thrift, yeah, I throw I throw.

Speaker 1:

If I throw I throw, I'm never too good for the good week. You know I'm saying Uh, and I try to make sure I got good wheel and good intention. You know I'm saying, but then for my events I go custom.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, I say I go.

Speaker 1:

I go cut, I go custom. It was a one point of time when I started that I couldn't, but then you know, uh, god put me to people who believe in my brand man and uh, I got the. I got the best tailor man in the in the in the nation. If y'all ain't never seen coverage customs man.

Speaker 1:

I'd be a cream, prefer vendor, prefer vendor, prefer vendor. Man, you know I'm saying that look cream. And most of the man can't tell you how many times that people have seen the wedding parties wearing Chyris custom so much where they can recognize Chyris custom when they see it. I can see it. Yeah, dude walked up to me, the grooms and like five weddings, like bro, you wearing Chyris custom. I'm like, yes, sir, so he know what I spin. Yeah, he know what I spent. So he like what shoot? I paid you four thousand. I know what I paid, kyra, you know you spent that much money on your wardrobe.

Speaker 1:

Yes, oh, come on now, yes, I did come on now and when the pictures come out, please send them to me.

Speaker 2:

That's what's up, man. So you definitely recommend anything. You know I'll, you know I'll. Venus, I mean first you got to, like you said, you're, you're, you got a dress, your wage number one you know so. I mean it could still be nice. They ain't got to be four thousand dollar suits. You feel I'm saying, but you know you definitely want to give off that Impress with somebody that okay Like yeah, yeah, yeah he taking it serious.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying like so for people. Please don't get it missed and screwed Like I shot. I'm wearing all good wear right now. Everything I got on came from the good wear right now you know I'm saying and, and $15.

Speaker 1:

This whole outfit copy $15. And I'm a good steward of my blessings. I keep saying it all the time. A lot of times man, fashion for me is more. Again, it's very expressive. But with the $15 outfit that the pants too big, I go get them tailored Because I'm not going to be disrespectful to my family. My grandma taught me better than that. You know I'm saying when I go to school the show used to be Sunday's best, not Sunday's average. You know I'm saying or average at best. You know I'm saying it was Sunday's best. So on Sunday my grandma put that stuff on. Every Sunday, didn't miss, I don't care. It was vacation, bible school, revival, wins and study group, friday's sushi, church, whatever going on. My grandma came into place to let her know, man, that she love God. She loves God enough to show up as she is, and God bless you to show up, show up. You know I'm saying I take that approach, man, every day, every day. I don't want nobody to catch me lacking. Let's do. You know I'm saying no, you think.

Speaker 2:

Do you think this is off topic? Do you think it's because we talk about chires and we talk about you know, chiropractor, where? Why you feel I'm saying and you were, why I know for your dripping everything. Do you think you got something a little bit to do with that sudden? Like what's separate this from you know, people that do cigar, that just dress clean the LA and stuff like that. What about that sudden element, that kind of thing?

Speaker 1:

man, listen man, it's the home of the place, man Mississippi. Man, I spoke on this on dirty neck because I said we had the best food and I told Taylor that I was going to stand on that Business and say that we was the hardest on the drip too, man.

Speaker 1:

So, man, every y'all, if you move through the, through the highways and byways, man of the South, you know I'm saying this, the dirty south, this the south side, this the crux of the south. You know I'm saying we the home of it, we the home of the culture. I speak on there. So when we speak about showing up to places with it on, you know I'm saying people down south. You know we don't have, you know, segregation and subjugations from different time, our own respective trials over history, man. But the one thing that we always presented was a new, was a uniform front, unified front for his family, and we made sure that when people seen us out, man, they had respect for our family. So I think over that time, man, people really started thinking that, okay, how you appeared to be is how is your reality? Not necessarily fake it till you make it, but you can. You can make good clothes. You know grandma used to make clothes, your auntie used to make clothes to make, do what you could with what you have and and made sure that it was the best. When you seen old G's out with the stars jeans right now they be start so much they could stand up in. Yeah, you know I'm saying because you want to look clean, and I think that's where here is all about being clean. It's all about being respectful. Do y'all want somebody? Must it come in here? Our house man Mud on their boots, or would you rather have them smelling like lavish fragrance and expensive fabrics? You know I'm saying I will take the ladder, but for me is very respectable. And then we down here in hospitality, you still got to go meet people's father's. If you want a court, you got to meet people grandma.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying, and that impression is everything. So I make sure that my impression Is a lasting one and was a good one from the beginning, and I can get a lot of that done without opening my mouth. And I take that opportunity and use it to my advantage. When they walk, when I walk into the room, I shift the vibration. That's the only thing it's about.

Speaker 1:

If y'all was sad, it's a whole bunch of people in here hating on your cudd. I'm gonna walk off in here probably one of the best dressed people, and I'm still gonna show love. Yeah, because that it ain't about me being cocky, it's about me coming in here saying this is the standard. Yeah, and I'm. I don't care if nobody else follow it, I'm gonna follow it. You know, this is the first time I had a baseball cap on on camera. I ain't never seen one and I had to put it on so I can wear the hand but shout out to the culture squad baby, we ain't here saying but you know, but for me I gotta come to a place and I will implore if you a chef, you need to have that chef coat on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and if everybody got a white chef coat on, can y'all change the color? What JB Can you go with a red coat? You know, you know I'm saying like can we get a polka dot coat? Some? They're just gonna go crazy.

Speaker 2:

Man, let me ask you, bro and I'm gonna get back, we're gonna finish up talking about some weddings. Um, you dress and y'all know you get this a lot you dress like you stepped out of the fifth. You feel what I'm saying Like? And back then, god, people wore suits everywhere.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

You, you wouldn't leave the house without a suit on. You had to have it on.

Speaker 1:

You feel so why is that One.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna ask you why do you think we got out of that, especially as black men? You say, I'm saying why did we get out of the wearing suits everywhere and stuff like that? And then what's the importance of? We got a heaps of man.

Speaker 1:

I think that a lot of our brothers kind of gave up on trying to fit into the system. You know I'm saying because a lot of times I listen to old stories, I'm very much a fan of talking to our elders and stuff and what I found was a lot of people felt like for their corporate jobs or whatever they were doing, that the suits weren't Uncomfortable for them, right, and they didn't like having to necessarily dress up. They didn't like what came with the suits. You know I'm saying having to be clean-shaven, they had to talk a certain way and all of that, which you know I don't do.

Speaker 1:

I keep it, I keep it, I keep it, g I'm gonna touch on that next, you know.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying so. For me, man, um, the 50s, and like the 20s through the 50s, for me was like a time where I seen the best of us. I seen our people. When our people were unified it wasn't fighting between husband and wife. Yeah, like in in the, in the essence of the word, you know I'm saying, and um, for me, when people see me out, when I got the calm over and I got you know I'm saying all of that going on, the first thing they could think about is their granddaddy, and most everybody Love their granddaddy. But if you go back into the point of time where most people in the south, especially in Mississippi, they got a whole bunch of land that they inherited and granddaddy always left the land for everybody. So the suits was working out with some pro, with some production too.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying so you got land being left. People are leaving here with no land. But for me, um again, I'm collaborative in nature. I could argue with coaches because we different, but I can also unify when we think I mean business. When I walk out the house and suits mean business, so I stay in a suit Because I'm about to business. You know I can.

Speaker 1:

You know, when I'm in a white tee or something, I'm at the house, in the, in the, in the furthest crevices of my home. You know I'm saying with the white. I don't even like to walk out the bathroom with a white shirt on. I got all the time, most of town, I'm walking out the bathroom. You know I'm saying you got to wait on me because when I come out it's game time. When I hit the doors, headed to the street, I'm going to make an impact and I'm going to bring something back that I, I eat what I kill. So when I go outside I dress the kid.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying, and that's my philosophy, it's nostalgic when people see my image and I crafted that because I, like I'm a theater guy, like I like old relics of the past, I'm very much an antique cat, I like vintage stuff. So, um, and for me it's something that we lost and I like the new movement, the streetwear movement and stuff, but I worked very hard to get out the streets, yeah. So why would I? I don't want to play in the field, no more. Yeah, I feel you. I'm a C-suite type of cat, I feel you.

Speaker 1:

You know, what I'm saying Is I drink like you.

Speaker 2:

So what age? Because I got so my guy Ryan, who you know, camera out for us and everything Shout out, shout out. Check graduated college. You feel what I'm saying. Shout out to you brother what age should guys start getting into suits? Or women for that fact?

Speaker 1:

Right now, early is 12 to 15. Yeah, early, all right. So I was a member of the. I'm a member of Cap Alpha Psy Shout out to the noobs. But before I was a member of Cap Alpha Psy, I was in the Cap Elite, right, and the Cap Elite for me is under the guide write program. And they say in my life, so I learned how to tie, tie.

Speaker 1:

You know there, what I think a lot of schooling does is not preparing people for the actual workplace or the actual marketplace, with people are judging you on what you look like, what you're saying, what you're able to produce. So it's easy, it's very easy to go ahead and get people in the frame of mind. Like you know, you used to go to school, man, if you had facial hair on your face, man coach is to make you shave. Get your cold rays and make you shave, because they knew that being clean shaving was an expectation in the corporate marketplace. Because you're not, it's not your company, somebody else's core values and you got to represent it until you start your own. That's true, and so, and even ownership isn't enough at this point in time. Now you got to be more creative on that. You know what I'm saying so, I think, as young as you can. And fellas, right now, man, every fellas should own a black suit. Hmm, every fellas got one.

Speaker 1:

Come on, every fellas should own a gray suit, a navy suit, a tan suit. Steve Harvey said this and they went viral one time before. Because, if I invite you to, let's say I'm right now mean with the, with the governor, and I rose to God for the governor's inaugural party. You know, when he got elected, do you want to be the cat that got to look like you went? You going to the courthouse? And you know cats who went to Sioux City and bought the $99 suit with the, with the, with the Squirtle black shoes and it's big and it's too tailored. They only bought a suit for this moment. Don't be that guy.

Speaker 1:

And for my sisters, you know I know everything she in fashion, over all of these brands as far, and stuff, man. But when I look at, when I think of ideal movers and shakers, I go to like media look. So y'all know y'all have watched scandal before. Yeah, kerry Washington, when she played Olivia Pope, used to step out and it was a look every time and she demanded and commanded the room. You know I'm saying that's why in law and all of this, you see, business suits is very prominent. Yeah, when I see like medical professionals, like nurses and stuff, when they go into, like these conferences and stuff, they are always dressed up. Yeah, they got the Louboutin zone, they got the nice business suit going on.

Speaker 1:

You know you got to be versatile because in the business marketplace everything is is is versatile. It's the capital markets, it's not your market or your neighborhood or your city. You're mingling with people from all walks and parts of the world and the one thing that unifies us in business is what business attire looks like. And you know my brother who just gave you know I think he a alpha right. Yeah, so like we don't went to informationals and they say business professional, you know I'm saying they got a look because the alpha is handling business, the capital is having a business. You know I'm saying party is handling business, jb Handling business, a new handling business. And if we going to do business, we got a winning Rome do is the Romans.

Speaker 2:

Hmm.

Speaker 1:

Now I had my little sauce on it all, yeah you know, I'm saying flavor, but everything is a check out. Hmm, and that's very important.

Speaker 2:

Let's be with some man. Last couple questions, man, I'm gonna let you get out of here, baby. I mean real quick for me to touch on that. So women should own a suit to, women should get a suit to, in your opinion, for show, yeah, at least one, least one black. Yeah, these black that's what's up, man?

Speaker 2:

So let's talk about one to these weddings, man. So, like I said, I already talked, spoke on someone planning the way and they should book you and everything. Tell me you. You talk a little bit about what you love about wedding because it's a, you know it's a, you know congratulations, you know celebration, celebration thing, that you do it, whatever. So why, why someone planning it right now? Hmm, why should they book you?

Speaker 1:

I'm the truth, the truth. I'm gonna make sure everybody loves you. You're gonna know, ain't too many people gonna spend that money on me. So this is, you know, weddings for me is like, if you're gonna do it, go ahead and do it. Yeah, you know, I'm saying, if you do it right, the one thing I'm gonna want to keep spending that money for that.

Speaker 1:

You know, for me, man, if you want somebody who gonna cater to your guests, you want somebody who gonna raise the taste levels of your function, if you want somebody who's not gonna educate but elevate, you know I'm saying I'm your person. I'm the person that's gonna be here to the light. When the lights turn on and today turn off again, you know I'm saying I'm the person that's gonna make sure that if I can help I'm not just a person that's gonna deal with just a cigar. If I got, if the bartender needs stocking on the ice and I just took a 15 minute break I go over there and help. Yeah, you know I'm saying, because if he run out of liquor, ain't no smoking going on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying I know smoking going on. If you know, I'm a, I'm a all around team player man and I play team. I play team with everybody else who help it. You know I'm saying make this thing go right. I was on Key Mart show and I said that I come to the, I come to the court prepared to play my position yeah, no one else's. You know I'm saying if I do my job good and you came to play that we make a good, we make a good team. You know I'm saying so. If you want somebody to do something different man, you want something that you never got a chance to have before, I bring the resort to you. You know I make sure that when you leave you competent on what you partake, then you could tell a friend, you could share your experiences, the pictures, the smiles. You know I'm saying the proof is in the smile. Some me. I just tell people they're all the time. The proof is in the smile for me.

Speaker 2:

So it's all around player, a player occasion, that's what's up, let me ask you, with doing weddings I know it and nothing a competition. I think that's that's where a lot of people you know get stuck into trying to be the best. But do you try to be? You want to be the? Let me get a little light to in there. Do you want to be the talk of the show when you leave that event? Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, versus.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know the pictures look good, you know the food good, but that's it, god. Whoever was doing that? What you want, people.

Speaker 1:

I need to have it, got to have it, I need to have it, and not necessarily saying so like but I'm also a complimentary type of guy, yeah. So let's say right now if JB, chef J and I keep saying JB because I love JB, he right here with me, so you know what I'm saying. So much love to JB. Jb put on a. He laid out a spread at the event, right, he need everybody that's participating in the experience to make sure that they came doing they part, right, I can't drop the ball. Yeah, you know I'm saying I'm probably going to be the only cigar roller at the event, but I don't need to be any less impactful than my neighbor. You know I'm saying JB made people be like man, man this food's so good when they get over there to my table.

Speaker 1:

It need to be the same situation going on when they walk down into the bar. They be like man, he put it for them drink. He ain't spread the ride on the drinks. Okay, man, when I got my pictures back from the photographer man, he walked me night girl. I ain't really good at posing my poses bad. So party talked me through my poses and stuff, gave me a little modeling lesson real quick, so my wedding pictures came out.

Speaker 1:

I can't be the person to drop the ball. That's very, very important and I don't have to. I don't have to be the best if we the best. Yeah, I'm not trying to be the one person to be the best, I'm trying to make sure that we were the best. So, like normally, it's a celebration thing of mind that after every event man, I take pictures with everybody, all of the help. I don't take pictures with none of the gifts most of time, all of the help, though I do, yeah, cause that day was my best event. You know what I'm saying. That was the best event of the month or whatever, and I remember those people. When I see him again, it's always like bro, we did the damn thing First time. Let's make another memorable experience.

Speaker 2:

Wow, all right. And last thing, man. Well, last two things. One, how do you control that ego? How do you control as you grow, as you become more of this person you are? How do you control not becoming too fully yourself? You know what I'm saying For people that may be struggling with that, people that you know maybe getting a little bit more notoriety and you know a little bit more fame and stuff like that. What, what do you have inside of you that keeps you grounded?

Speaker 1:

Community. Yeah, my grandma said wherever there's a community, there's an economy. Nobody ever made a dollar, nowhere, without someone having to be with and spending money first. Yeah, so I'm a product of the community. You know what I'm saying. I'm from the community, I am the community. I never, I can't do anything without somebody spending some money on, without somebody giving me a shot, without somebody shouting me out on Instagram, without somebody liking my content.

Speaker 1:

Numbers don't matter if the people not involved so like okay, they say okay, you got a hundred or something thousand Instagram followers. Okay, that's a hundred and seventy seven thousand people that thought I was valuable enough to keep up with what I got going on from a little key from presidential here. That's a monumental thing. That's humbling in and of itself. Man, they can be following anybody else in the world, they can be anywhere else in the world, but when they take a time out, they, they. They'll never get back to say this was fine. Oh my God, the outfit, oh my God, the ambience. These are things, man, that you cannot do without people. So, people, you are never too good for the community. That's for your celebrities, that's for your people trying to become celebrities. You're not a celebrity without people, you're not really nobody but yourself. Without people, in the moment, you, we've been dealing with people since we've been alive.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying, and that's never going to stop, you know I'm saying so, I treat, I treat myself out of being down in the bottom and I don't seem some of this, some of the landscape of the top. I ain't quite made it, but I can see it now. You know, I can see it now and the common denominator between the bottom and the top is people. There. You know I'm saying at the bottom of the top. So I make sure, bro, I didn't do this on my own. You don't help me out more than I can ask for, bro, you don't gave me a platform, you don't let me be a part of your life, bro, you let me earn your friendship. You know I'm saying you, you let me earn your respect, you let me earn your, your cosine, and without that, bro, I couldn't feed my family and without somebody doing it to you, you couldn't be sure.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying, and I maintain that disposition within my life on all things I'm never too good to be wrong. I'm never too good to put somebody on because somebody put me on and when I'm called I will answer. That's my philosophy and sometimes it hurts because I don't got mistreated, but that's part of the game. Ain't ain't no, ain't no fruit or no crop. Y'all did some real bars for you. My grandma put me on game. Ain't no crop or no fruit. That ever came out the ground and had no dirt on it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's real, that's real.

Speaker 1:

Ain't nobody, ain't no fruit ever came out the ground without no dirt on it, so it's organic this way. I got a little water fixed that trip. You know I'm saying so I stay, I stay down, I stay reachable, and I kind of got this little term and I kind of let that there be. I I call this term accessible, exclusivity. I want to be accessible to the people at all times when they need a friend to call or they need some help, but also exclusive enough where I can set my price and live my life. You know, I'm saying I think y'all should take that. Be accessible, make sure people can get in contact, which only had to be everybody, but somebody need to be able to reach you and bring you back with, to bring you back to, to give back and lead the dough up.

Speaker 2:

That's beautiful man. And one last one, last thing I want to touch on. But you move in a lot of rooms. You being a lot of spaces, you know how to talk to different people. But I will say, no matter what room you you are in, you are yourself. You are unapologetically black. You feel on saying how, how did you? You know what I'm saying, what? Why is that important to you? So even you may be in a room with you know different color or different races, things like that you still going to be yourself. Why is that important to you? Versus you know the turn you know you get with a lot of black people.

Speaker 2:

You know coach, coach, which is like that how can you be yourself and still be able to move in those circles?

Speaker 1:

If y'all have, if y'all have ever asked yourself a question, I hope y'all think about this. I employ everybody to think about these podcast listeners around the world. When have cold switching ever worked? Could they know you talking in cold? When they see you out on your break, you're loud. Yeah, what's up, cuck, what's a homey? Amen. I mean, I'm at the wordplay, bro. You know how you doing there. Tom or everything swell, cool, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Be yourself. You know saying be yourself. They respect that more. You know I'm not trying to be you because I didn't come from the trust fund. My daddy didn't go to Harvard. You know what I'm saying. They're not a physician. No, my dad was an educator. My dad educated me on the game and the game. The game is very plain. If you, if you look at it, be yourself.

Speaker 1:

The great prophet of the son of man, jesus, was himself the truth, the truth. The truth always set you free and you ain't got to change the script when you close with too many times you start. Every time you do it, you put yourself in a position where you're not presenting your authentic self. So when they catch you at the club on the couch, they think of you wilding out, yeah, but you really be wild all the time.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, but for me I treat people how I want to be treated. You know I greet people with respect, regardless of race, regardless of color, regardless of creed. You know I'm saying and I really believe what the words of Martin Luther King used to say, that that he really wanted to be judged by the content of his character. You know I'm saying and not nothing else. So I present my character on my sleeve, I'm saying and for me that works. And then I feel great when I into a room. I don't have to be someone else, I'm me. I got a nice story to tell. God Don't be being blessed for me. I want my testimony to be my testimony. You know I'm saying, the only way for it to be my testimony is I'm being myself.

Speaker 2:

And that's my life. That's important, I think, just from the outside, looking in, you know, I think it's important, just, you know, just progressing, progressing our race to show other races. You know, saying who you are, you being yourself at all times and stuff like that and representing our culture. That's the main thing. You represent our culture at all times, no matter what room you in. I think that's important, bro.

Speaker 1:

In a respectful way. Yeah, the gangsters appreciated, the aristocrats appreciated the people on the other side, the politicians, the teachers, the neighbors, the babysitters, the handyman, whatever they appreciated. So when someone can say, hey, I miss somebody from Mississippi. I'm a very intellectual brother, I'm very well educated, well traveled, you know I'm saying well dressed. You know I'm saying well funded. You know we're a groom. Anything with well, I do it and I do it well.

Speaker 1:

And if that's the only interaction with somebody from my neck of the woods, I want to make sure that it's the last in one. But they say, well, I met another guy from Mississippi and he wasn't that pleasant. Not in the hospitality statement we show hospitality, yeah, and you're going to get hospitality from me and you're going to get it with a flavor and I'm going to show you the down here, the cup running over with blessings from the most high, and I'm grateful for him. I'm grateful for my life, I'm grateful for the opportunity. I'm always grateful because I could, I could be.

Speaker 1:

It can all end tomorrow. I could not have nothing tomorrow. You know we can all lose it all tomorrow because I don't bend them. So I appreciate being here and I appreciated being there and I make sure that I let people know, man, how blessed I am. I just can't, I just can't hide it, man. I just feel like it's your obligation to see me smile. You got to see me smile. You got to like it or not, For God, that'd be good to me. That's beautiful, that's beautiful man.

Speaker 2:

And last thing on way out bro, you got too little. It is something that you see yourself passing down.

Speaker 1:

That's what is for, that's what is for man. I think sometimes we get mad at our family and friends or our mothers and fathers for not necessarily giving us the best situations passed down. But they did the best, they came with what they had. You know what I'm saying. So for me I'm an anthropologist of the struggle. I kept up with the struggle. I done seen everybody do it the wrong way, so I ain't got no choice but to get it right or try a new way. Pun intended, try a new way. So for me, for my boys, man, you know, you know, and I got an older girl, so she twerled my oldest girl, you know, sam, and I love her. Shout out to Serenity Baby, I love your baby daddy, making you proud. This for them.

Speaker 1:

So if you want to go be a ballerina or you want to go be the next chef, jb or the next party you know what I'm saying Then go ahead. But why are you figuring it out? I don't learn a lot of lessons on the way, on what you're not do and what could do. But when I want to send you out, because the game get updated every generation. So the game right now, at the game my parents play. You know I'm saying social media and all this stuff. Man, they may have flying cars in. You know, in 20 years.

Speaker 1:

But I want to make sure that I gave them as much resources, as much opportunity, as much game as they can. Where Our brand is Uncle Nier, it's 2019, but it's 150 years later in my, in my boys and my girl can say they, six generation tobacco makers. You know I'm saying set like that's a great, great, great. Yeah, you know my great, great, great, great grandkids. I'll be long in the in the dirt, you know I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

But if it's true that we get a chance to see, look down on everybody and I hope that's the case I know a lot of people proud of us. You know what I'm saying and that's what it's for, bro. That's what it's for. You know what I'm saying. I'm preparing for what I leave behind. You know what I'm saying and everything else in front of me is a mystery until I find out. You know what I'm saying. So I just want to make sure that my kids, you know, in my community, get the chance to see the progress, to see it can be done. It can be done while maintaining your integrity. That's the biggest gift I'm going to leave to the community is I did it with integrity, I didn't have to cop out it, or a shortcut and cut corners and harm people and wrong people and slander people in order to get to the top. I earned my weight and I earned my spot and all I wanted from the power was one slice, because that one slice I'm going to be able to feed my kids.

Speaker 2:

The same way.

Speaker 1:

God did it with two loaves of bread. So yeah, I'm just trying to pass down my two loaves of bread.

Speaker 2:

That's beautiful man, that's beautiful. So, on the way out, anybody that may want to like, I'm going to get into cigars, I'm going to get into it. Give me a cigar you recommend and give me a perfect drink, alcohol beverage, whiskey I guess whiskey and cigars is kind of the thing, right, uh-huh? Sure, give me a perfect pan for someone, real quick, to make your deal Okay.

Speaker 1:

So y'all, my favorite cigar is not even my own cigar, again, I'm a student of the game, so my favorite cigar is the H Upman, the banker man. It's my favorite cigar man. So I used to take everything to the bank. So my first check I wrote to myself and wrote to myself for 200,000. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, okay, when I get to the apartment bed of cash and I'm a cashier at the bank and I'm going to smoke the banker, but the bank is my favorite cigar. I take it on the island If I couldn't smoke nothing else for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1:

I take the bank of the bank. Goodbye H Upman. Shout out to H Upman Right now. Man, of course I love Uncle Nier's man. Shout out to my people, man, shout out to us doing it well and really highlighting that history. I actually think that this cigar would pay off very, very well with Uncle Nier's man. It's a familiar thing for me. For me, I probably have an Uncle Nier's. You know what I'm saying. On the rocks man Smoked the bank of the bank as a media unit for us. It got something out and it probably paired with a red fish, some little butter, targon sauce man, and some asparagus or something. You know what I'm saying? Something squizzing. You know what I'm saying. Have a little cheese cake, the lemon cheese cake, or something on the side. Man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Update your experiences man, love that, love that, love that. I'm glad you said that because we got such a big inability, I can really got a link y'all in the way, because we got to go and start this supper club, this supper club.

Speaker 1:

Man. Shout out to show JB. I love JB, man. Listen y'all one of the people man. I've been watching them because he ain't, he ain't let nobody get in his way, ain't let nobody get in his way. And he constantly putting that work in him. And when I first met him, he supported me, man, he supported me, walked up to me, no question, dropped out the bag with me. Every time you see me and I'm out of the function, you dropped out the bag with me, bro, like it was, it was a must. But every time I seen JB, jb was cooking in the kitchen, literally Like he be moving around, and I salute any kind of brother that's working on their 10,000 hours.

Speaker 1:

Man for mastery. And I would love to work with JB man. We definitely need to do that sooner than later. That'd be, that'd be, that'd be amazing for me, man. So shout out to the brothers out there doing their thing. Man, yeah, I give folks their flowers while they're here and and not when they go. So much love to one of Mississippi's premier chefs, man, chef JB, that's beautiful man.

Speaker 2:

And what's what's next? For you know, chief man, big chief, what's next? What's?

Speaker 1:

next for him.

Speaker 2:

Hey man, season four Dirty Knackers coming soon, man Season four Dirty Knackers for sure.

Speaker 1:

People to moment in my career, man, and a beautiful opportunity, which I thank you greatly for, man, for allowing me to platform, to be able to show why I love my city, show the people in my city that's doing good things, showing that it is possible for us to collaborate you know what I'm saying and elevate together. So we got that coming. We finna get ready to film, you know, part of the episode of New Urban Coming Podcast. Man on the Dirty Knackers Network. Man. So there's two shows. Man from that really working on international, spreading out, making a marketplace international. I'm definitely trying to connect my brand with the motherland and the deeper capacity you know what I'm saying. Surge the brands, man, and help contribute to the global economy, especially amongst our people. You know what I'm saying. So that's a big deal for me. So I've been working on that and refining the process, just finding the system and documenting more of the journey where I can get a game back in the palatable and comprehensive way. That's what I so.

Speaker 1:

I don't learn a lot of stuff. You don't learn a lot of stuff. So now it's time to kind of if we don't give it back, then we really. Then what did we do it for? You know what I'm saying. So that's what's next for me. I'm excited about that, excited to be on the show man. So Dirty Knackers man, season four coming soon. Man, I was season three, now I'm the host. Man, we got a time to talk. Man, this is crazy and this is a definition to show man. Y'all party working man Prefer vendor podcast. You know what I'm saying. Dirty Knackers four seasons in. Now Fina do another show with mine on Dirty Knackers network.

Speaker 1:

Man, he building, he grinding man, he keeping community first man, getting a good team around him, keeping quality people around him. Man, and God bestowing the blessings. Man, it's an honor to be in business with you, bro, to take the journey, to be your friend, bro, to be your brother, to be there for you, man, and likewise with you and I. You know what I'm saying. You're a real one, bro. I want to go on the record, man, to say, bro, you know what I'm saying, I put my life on the line for you. Man, you know what I'm saying, and I think more people need to hear what's said Love on each other like that. So that's a moment. So salute to you, bro man, I appreciate that For sure, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2:

And likewise, bro, like I said, you know and I'm going to let you say your spell and how people can reach you next, but, man, like I said, like you said, give people they fly off while they're still here. Bro, I met you a few years ago. I always knew of you. I met you a few years ago, man, you pulled up, just being real man. I think it was not planning out trying to have everything and I was just like man, I love to have a sick out of it. You know what I'm saying and you know you pulled up on me, bro, like you know what I'm saying, like I got you, bro, you know what I'm saying and made it in the experience where people still remember it. You know what I'm saying. That's about two years ago, yeah, bro, and people still remember it.

Speaker 2:

Bro, You've always been like one car with you, bro, you've always been real and I think you know what I'm saying. I tell you that on multiple occasions, bro, you yourself, and I love that you feel what I'm saying. Like I said, you've been there with me through my highs and my lows. You feel what I'm saying and you know you wrote, you know, sick off of my brother's repass and everything, bro, that was important to me and everything. And long live smiley man. Yeah, man, like I said that even made a special blend for him, bro, that's just how much I love man, you know, and you didn't have to do that. You feel what I'm saying, so like.

Speaker 2:

I said I'm going to give you your flowers right here, bro you the man. I tell you this all the time. I told you this before the year, before we start filming it all. I like, bro, you'll start, my bro you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

But you know what I'm saying. But you're real, bro. So anything that I could do for you, you feel what I'm saying. You are in, on one call away. You feel what I'm saying. I'm pulling up. I can't be there. I'm going to send one of my guys there. You know what I'm saying. But you're doing your thing, bro. You representing not only the culture, but you representing the city of Jackson and the state of Mississippi. It's a whole and such a prolific way. You feel what I'm saying. You know you're doing the damn thing, bro, and I think it's important that you're showing people that you could do it right here in Jackson, mississippi.

Speaker 1:

And I couldn't have done it without you. I'm grateful for that man. It's an honor man to be. You know I told you when you called about smiling man. You know, man, you know I hate to see this type of stuff happen. You know what I'm saying, but it still happens, you know, and life goes by so fast, bro, and the first time I met smiling was with a smile. You know what I'm saying. He gave me a big smile, bro, and I'm glad to see that even in that moment people were smiling for smiling. You know what I'm saying. And so to give that respect to a brother who showed me love, you know what I'm saying A brother of a brother I love, you know what I'm saying. That's family, and I'm glad to be a part man, because that's what it's all about, bro, and we going to make sure that smiley legacy live on, man. So a long little smiley bro, a real Jack Town legend man. And you know, if you can hear us, man, we're going to hold it down for you, bro, Hold it down bro.

Speaker 2:

I wish you here because a lot of people don't know my brother bought me this whole set up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, you're telling me that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I was like you know, I know, you know I made him proud while I was here, but I know, you know I'm going to turn it up to another level.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bro, it's time to do that, man, and that's my biggest thing, man, I know this thing we call life ain't a promise every day, and all of us got our time and our day. You know what I'm saying. But to make the biggest impact, while you're here, to love on people, while you're here, where I think that's the definition of immortality, of the soul, man With your name ring ring bells on a place with, on the plane, you no longer are physically here to speak for yourself, what people speak for you in your absence.

Speaker 1:

Man says a lot about who you were, who you are and where your legacy going to go. Man, you got a big responsibility. Man, post that situation and, bro, I'm here for you anyway. I can't own it. On it, on it a journey, bro, and we in that shit together, man so you're my brother, man, You're my brother.

Speaker 2:

I think I told you why I bet bro, I ain't using that brother.

Speaker 1:

Turn lightly loosely and stuff like that. So it's all right. I really mean that, bro. I really mean that man.

Speaker 2:

So people out there playing away, the man they getting ready to go on like they bookings in and everything you know they thinking about how can they reach you, man?

Speaker 1:

y'all could catch me on all social media platforms, at Satoria Tobacco, and it's for those who don't know what Satoria means it means we'll address. Well, taylor. So Satoria underscore tobacco, so you can find me at my website, satoria Tobaccocom. You know wherever the smoke is, I'm normally there and I would love to serve you. I would love to be a part of your memorable occasion and I hope that you know, choose me. I think you won't regret it and thank you in advance. Man, you're helping feed the hungry kids. I got, they get real hungry.

Speaker 1:

So God bless you and your charitable contribution to my platform.

Speaker 2:

Man, that's a beautiful thing. Beautiful thing, man. I'm going to let you get a bottle here. I appreciate you, man. Y'all already know I had to have the best on the other best man, I told y'all I'll be putting preferred vendors in front of this camera in front of y'all. You feel what I'm saying in this industry, that we love this business, this service industry, that we do best. And so, yeah, man, until next time. This is the preferred vendor podcast on your host, kp. See y'all later.

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