Something you hate that everyone loves - Haven Exchange #1

What is something you absolutely hate but everyone around you just loves? Don't be afraid to admit it, we sure weren't shy about it. Tune in and see how Christopher Lambert, Whipped Cream, and Fig Newtons make their way into the conversation... 

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Transcript

Genesis: 0:00

What's up everyone Genesis here coming straight from the Gamer's Haven Network and twitches 48th most entertaining streamer. Welcome to The Haven exchange, a podcast that we've been planning for quite a bit now, almost two years, three years, look back at our podcast topics. And the first one was e 320 18. related. So this is definitely been in the books for a long time. So I'm super excited to start getting this going. And, you know, putting this out for the community and whoever else wants to tune in and listen to us ideas. This is just going to be something that we get around and just having conversations with, with the community with Ryan with Rick, aka Phantom, whatever topics come to mind that we feel like, you know, we want to discuss and have some fun with some, it's kind of the idea. There's nothing specific here. It's not gaming centric, instant streaming centric, but we want to dive into all of those categories, so never know what you're gonna get. I think it's gonna be fun. So we plan to bring guests in from the community to sit down and talk with us. I think that'll be fun to get some different insights from various people amongst the neighbors haven community. And then hopefully, a lot of podcast viewers out there that we can bring into the community and help grow us even more. So that's been exciting fun. This particular episode, we're going to be talking about something you hate, but everyone loves and this was an interesting topic. Well, considering right in the beginning, I screwed up what the question was, and was completely unprepared for what the actual was, I had it completely. And that threw me off. But we we reined it back in. Not to mention the night before I just did a power hour on stream. So I was really hung over and it was really early and recording for the first time in this manner wasn't at the sharpest in my performance. So, you know, as we get out, we're gonna get better. And I hope you guys enjoy the show. So let's get to it. Thanks, everyone for stopping by and checking us out. haven exchange? What's up everybody? And welcome to The Haven exchange podcast here brought to you by the Gamer's Haven Network. We are getting together with all you find folks discussing multitudes of topics that we know you're gonna enjoy. I am your host Genesis, you may all know and some of you may love me. today. We also have a few guests on with us. We have big RC

BigRC: 2:55

Yeah, that'll be me. Yeah.

Genesis: 2:57

And then we also have Rick Phantom, aka my lover. No, just kidding. Satan loves Christ.

Rick: 3:04

Yo, to me off there,

Genesis: 3:06

man. Gotta keep you on your toes. You know,

Rick: 3:10

this guy? Yeah. What's going on everybody?

Genesis: 3:13

So yes, this is the Haven exchange, new podcast that we're starting here. coming straight out of the Gamer's Haven Network. And we talking about all kinds of things we got. We got topics for days, we're gonna be talking about a very special one. Today, we're gonna see what are we talking about? Oh,

BigRC: 3:28

let's see. Today we are going to be discussing something everyone loves but you hate.

Genesis: 3:33

Yes, that's that is the topic of the day. Something you love, but everyone hates which is an interesting concept. Right? What is it that you love, but everyone hates? It kind of puts you on the outside? Right for lots of different things?

Rick: 3:47

Yeah, I think I think my choices are pretty, pretty unique. Well, they're not unique, but I think a lot of people will insult me for my reasoning behind the things that I hate that everyone else loves. And I can almost guarantee it. They make no sense at all.

Genesis: 4:05

I feel like I've been fighting this battle my whole life. Like I've never been one to want to sort of go with with the masses and in sort of like annoyingly so. I mean, growing up in Chicago, I would I mean be surrounded by Chicago Bulls fans, and that was the era of Jordan to growing up and like near fuck the bulls. I'm

Rick: 4:26

gonna like magic. What I can understand that. I mean, I wasn't like that. You know, I also grew up in Chicago. I was still very much a bulls fan. Chicago Bears fan too. But I learned early on that bowls are garbage. What you had you had your city, you know, like, the bears haven't been good in like fifth like five years, six years something like that. And then back office, you know, they do whatever they do to mess the whole thing up. So I gave up on expecting much from Chicago but I still love

Genesis: 4:59

it. Yeah. Cuz it's your it's your hometown and you gotta you got to represent that as I grew older I definitely came into the fold and was like yes all my Chicago teams are my teams but definitely as a kid it was Nath It was just an just an annoying brat to not like what everybody else around me like Yeah,

Rick: 5:16

but I will say I'm out here the first chance I get

Genesis: 5:21

I beat you there.

Rick: 5:23

Yeah, I'm gone. If it wasn't for my two kids Oh my goodness. Oh man I'd be out of here

Genesis: 5:29

are those something that everyone loves? But no. Who wants to start though Who are we gonna see? What do you got? What do you got for us? Let's I want to I'm curious because big RC is the kind of person that I feel like I get more I get more critical analysis reviews from him on things that we all love but he hates but I'm curious what he thinks he loves that everyone hates so big I see what what do you got?

BigRC: 5:59

Well, people are not gonna like me after this podcast I'm gonna pay this much right now.

Rick: 6:03

Well, well hold on let me let me stop you there because the question isn't what you love but everyone hates it's what everyone loves but you hate Oh,

Genesis: 6:11

is that what it is? I got it backwards then Jesus Christ

Rick: 6:14

yes it's not it's what everyone collectively enjoys or loves. But you yourself do not like Okay,

Genesis: 6:23

I got it. I got it. So we got

BigRC: 6:27

that right there could be another topic for next time. But now what's yours?

Genesis: 6:32

What do you love or what do you I see I already screwed it up. What do you hate that everyone loves?

BigRC: 6:40

Honestly, man, it's gonna sound a little petty and kind of weird man but I'm not gonna with john legend.

Genesis: 6:45

I'm legend Riley you hate john legend.

BigRC: 6:49

I only because it is turned off like that. I mean, it was the fact that you know I think he was like owned by one of the few people who got a he got i think you know people got to me was that Grammy Oscar Tony and all that stuff. Congratulations. Congratulations to him and everything on that. Well, you worked hard to get to where you are my reasoning behind it was when that our Kelly documentary thing came out and he was talking about our Kelly like that. It's like how can you talk about a person that you don't really know? Wait, what

Genesis: 7:18

did he say

BigRC: 7:19

that no. It's just it's just the fact that he was on a show I guess supporting the women that went to all that stuff with the whole R Kelly situation, but it's like hey, go talk about a person that you don't really know like that either. On top guess what that chair like it seemed like he was in a position to kind of deep dethrone him so he could get to where he was originally. In my opinion,

Genesis: 7:41

do you think because of his status is that what you're more upset about that his status as john legend to sort of speak on the topic because I mean, we all do it every day where we talk about

BigRC: 7:51

oh yeah yeah, I mean yeah. Oh yeah. I mean aerobar Kelly, you know saying but yeah, like you just say it difference dude status the fact that where he was that like did you really really have to get on there and say anything about him? No, you didn't say anything go with the other kinds of artists who I really don't mess with that mess with like that either. I just know story from that time so

Genesis: 8:14

well. It reminds me of when Dave Chappelle one of his recent stand ups on the riots and protesting called out by somebody on the news and he's like what the fuck people don't need a celebrity right now what do you want me to come out and say something and I thought that I thought that made a lot of sense like yes you're just because you're a celebrity doesn't mean we need to hear from you and I'm What do you think of the Yeah,

Rick: 8:38

yeah like with with with RC what he said about the the our Kelly the surviving our Kelly documentary, like I got that same vibe to like the first season of that show clearly was not trying to say they weren't trying to show both sides of the equation or both sides of the situation. It was almost entirely our Kelly's a monster we you know, they I don't think I ever really heard the word allegedly anywhere in that thing. Like everyone had already convicted him and it just I didn't understand why john legend was there. I'm like, you don't you're not adding anything to this conversation. You're just giving your opinion on how he should be quote, unquote, canceled, but we're talking about the victims right now. It should be the story should be about the victims, you know, or the alleged victim I should say.

Genesis: 9:28

I mean, he did. But

Rick: 9:30

yeah, I don't hate him for it though. Either. Like I think he's a great thinker, so I don't I don't

Genesis: 9:35

Yeah, that's it's I want to dive into that side of it bigger see, so you hate john legend, the person but do you also hate his music then? Every music? No, I don't hate his music. But because of what recently happened.

BigRC: 9:47

I kind of stopped supporting him and stop listening to his music. You

Rick: 9:50

don't listen to greenlight

BigRC: 9:54

music anymore. Order new.

Rick: 9:57

That's like the best racing music alive. Time to listen. nightclub while listening to green light. Yeah, nothing bad.

Unknown: 10:06

No, no I'm familiar with the song as not happening.

Rick: 10:11

Maybe like Episode 100

Genesis: 10:13

we heard it here first. Oh,

Rick: 10:17

I change that already.

Genesis: 10:20

Phantom what do you what do you hate that everyone

Rick: 10:22

loves man? I think I'm gonna have to go with cheese I I hate cheese but here's the part where I think people are going to insult me for the rest of my life for I I hate cheese, but I love nacho cheese. Like, I don't like cheese on a burger, but I will destroy some nachos. Or like

Genesis: 10:46

some people hate tomatoes. But love ketchup. That's what I'm kind of getting.

Rick: 10:50

Yeah, because like, like, I kind of boiled it down yesterday when I was talking to my lady were like, geez, in the natural cheese. Yeah, whether it's like I think

Unknown: 10:59

I'm like, well, the down this guy.

Rick: 11:03

Like, I think I prefer like the warmed up melted cheese. You know what I mean? Like, like, a regular slice of cheese on a hamburger is nasty to me. You know, it's all cold for either, even if it was slightly melted, you know? But like, yeah, cheese is awesome. And then America Yeah, merch. But like just cheese in general. I can't do it, man. Anytime I go like pizza obviously is amazing.

Genesis: 11:28

You know, but for melted cheese rang.

Rick: 11:30

Yeah, but like if, like I went somewhere and I was eating the it was some sort. I can't remember what kind of burger it was. But there was melted cheese on the burger and the cheese is white, which I think is that motza revenue or parmesan? I don't know what it was exactly. But it was what it was like that was all I could and I bought for a solid 20 minutes to now vomit all over the place. And it was absolutely disgusting.

Genesis: 11:56

Is this been like all your life kind of thing? You've always hated cheese.

Rick: 11:59

Yes. Yeah, I've Yeah, I've hated cheese since forever. But and now Okay, here's another thing though to not nachos are good. nachos are so good to where I can't eat regular cheese like shredded cheese. I will take some of those tostado chips and then sprinkle shredded cheese on that and microwave it in the microwave. Yeah,

Genesis: 12:19

that's it to make a bit more man's nachos.

Rick: 12:23

Like 20 years I've been eating that shit. It's amazing. But just like the shredded cheese alone before the microwave. No, Andrew, I can't do it. What about Parmesan cheese the sprinkle that on your pastas? Parmesan. No, I'm not a big fan of parmesan either. No, no, no Parmesan. No, no, no, no, I like mozzarella sticks though.

Genesis: 12:43

That's more melted cheese.

Rick: 12:45

But like a second that mozzarella stick hits like a certain temperature like once it's out of that hot realm and it's a little little bit more solid for

Genesis: 12:54

me I like this to get a little NSFW I love the boiled cheese when it's all over my body.

Rick: 13:03

Oh my god. Ray,

Genesis: 13:05

what are you talking about?

Rick: 13:07

Cheese in some forms is amazing. But in most forms it's disgusting and I think people who just eat a plate of cheese should be thrown you should absolutely be jailed.

Genesis: 13:18

I that by the handful I got various bags of shredded cheese that I'll just go and take little pinches of throughout the day and get myself little little little cheese fix blue cheese grew Yay, some Gouda, some sharp. Some pepper jack also, when they're testing new vaccines and stuff to the experiment or YouTube or just just the other way what

Rick: 13:42

I'm calling you a mouse. That was the that was that was the joke.

Genesis: 13:48

I gotcha. Whoo. Okay, what do I hate that I don't know what I hate that everyone loves? It's so hard. That's a harder question than what do I love that everybody hates? Maybe you know, I don't know. What do I hate though? You know who I hate? I hate Christopher Lambert,

Rick: 14:03

the Highlander Highlander. Highlander.

Genesis: 14:08

I don't know but for some reason his face annoys the crap out of me. I couldn't get into the movie Highlander at all and I don't know big Ric? Is that one of your favorite movies of all

BigRC: 14:19

time? Actually. No, that's actually sages. I like Highlander either, so I'm in the same boat as you

Genesis: 14:23

I couldn't even I couldn't even get through the movie because of Christopher Lambert's face. And I hate it. I hated him in Mortal Kombat when he played his Raiden and it's it's all down to his face and he's probably not on everyone's high celebrity list and something that everybody loves. I have to believe that there's a good portion of people out there that love them so not so much as to where he was able to do movies for as long as he was able to do with that stupid face that he has a look. I'm looking at all the movies I have not seen with him in it some Mortal Kombat fortress Beowulf Highlander. See what else we got here? Shoot them They don't even care about because of his face.

Rick: 15:02

I see. Okay, now I'll agree with you in terms of the Mortal Kombat. I don't like him as a raven. I like the annihilation actor. I don't I can't is it? I can't remember the dude's name that was writing in annihilation. He's a bigot, too. Know not Bill Paxton. But he was he was Dexter's dad. indexer he was right. Yeah, he's been in a ton of stuff. And I'm completely blanking on his name, but he much better right then Lambert arms Braemar. Oh, oh, and, you know, if we're gonna bring up the subject of Highlander, or at least Lambert. I've never seen any of the Highlanders. And I have no intention on saying credibly stupid. And

Genesis: 15:49

it's that is that the that can only be one. Is that where that comes from? Or the rings? Gotcha. Uh, I don't know. There's some when people's faces like certain movies. I just can't watch if I just like, Nick. What is his name Nick Croll? Is that his name? Dude hilarious. Can't get into it because of his face. Kylo Ren. What's his name? I can't watch anything but I'm driver. So it was it was a slog to get through Star Wars with seen his dumb face

Rick: 16:23

food. Have you ever watched any of the league? No, because of Nick corrals face.

Unknown: 16:29

One of the best shows

Genesis: 16:30

ever. No is nice. I can't do it. I'll just be staring at his face the whole time just being an asshole. You know, like,

Rick: 16:36

I don't want to say it. And I feel like someone needs to omus this is getting awfully close to anti semitism. I don't know.

Genesis: 16:47

I saw Jewish actors thinks Oh, I don't. Well, that's not the case.

Rick: 16:56

Nick Kroll definitely is I think I think Adam Driver is I don't know about Lampard, though.

Genesis: 17:02

I don't think he is. But who knows? That's not the reason though. There. Oh,

Rick: 17:08

I see. Again. I'll say something very simple.

Genesis: 17:15

What are you? What are you getting that? woody? What are you really trying to say? Yeah, continuing on from

Unknown: 17:31

Yes.

Genesis: 17:32

Cut, edit. Boom. Back to not being racist.

BigRC: 17:40

Oh, man, I mean, it's similar. It's just people and like, I know hate. It's such a strong word.

Rick: 17:47

Like food game.

BigRC: 17:49

I can't I can't think of anything like anything like that. I didn't really like I'm not even gonna bring up some message for cuz I really didn't enjoy that. But guys

Unknown: 18:00

battling anybody enjoyed that. Yeah.

Rick: 18:04

I think the only thing that this country is unified on is

Genesis: 18:09

that's what, that's what's gonna bring us all together. Is that our hatred towards Superman? 64. Exactly.

BigRC: 18:16

Terrific. But no, I mean, so like I said, going back to that, man, it's funny. I brought the actor Nick, but I kind of feel the same way. But uh, Maggie Gyllenhaal?

Unknown: 18:26

Oh,

Rick: 18:28

yeah. Now she's, she's, she's quite the Looker.

BigRC: 18:32

Yeah, man. Like I

Genesis: 18:34

say that in the positive in a positive way.

BigRC: 18:37

I really like that. Okay. Okay. Actress scene home screen. Oh, no, I'm just

Rick: 18:42

yeah, I think RC probably agrees that I think Katie Holmes should have been Rachel in the second movie.

BigRC: 18:50

Yes. In the dark night. Yeah. Yes.

Rick: 18:55

very disappointing.

BigRC: 18:56

Yeah. That bad decision on that part and any other project that he takes on? I'm just never really interested in watching the movie because then once again, don't think she's bad actress. I think she decent just matter. Yeah.

Genesis: 19:10

That's what I'm saying about Christopher Lambert.

Rick: 19:14

Lambert though. But I feel like he only dislikes Maggie because of her appearance, though. You're accurate though, right? Yeah,

BigRC: 19:24

this looks man it's this morning. I mean, it looks as part of the butterflies something else too magical.

Rick: 19:30

You guys are all you guys are?

Genesis: 19:34

Same as Rick, what do you guys what's another food?

Rick: 19:39

This podcast is gonna turn into just a YouTube bashing people from now. My mind did not go to people and all my mind went straight to food and video games. You don't think anything about people were talking I still can't think of a single person that I'm just talking As you know, I my second voice though, is whipped cream.

Genesis: 20:09

When we go from Maggie Gyllenhaal to whipped cream,

Rick: 20:13

like whipped cream is awful. It doesn't taste like anything, you know, it just feels like you've just put you ate glue, essentially just You do realize it's it's sort of a an addition to other foods, right?

Genesis: 20:24

Like Yeah, that's I'm saying you're not just supposed to eat it. And no, no, no, no, I'm

Rick: 20:29

kidding. I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't add anything to food and then the flavor that it does add. It doesn't add it actually makes whatever it's on worse. I had it on apple pie. I actually had key lime pie yesterday, and it makes the key lime pie worse. I think key lime pie is amazing.

Genesis: 20:50

But the whipped cream makes it worse. Is it the texture or do you think it's just pointless? I think it has no taste to you. And I think that's it.

Rick: 20:57

I think it's just it's a waste because there's no taste to it. And of course my two little girls love it. They literally seen me 80% whipped cream with like two little strawberries sprinkled in there.

Genesis: 21:09

They love it. That's bad parenting.

Rick: 21:12

Now, that's mommy's fault.

Genesis: 21:16

Mommy's not here to defend.

Rick: 21:20

It is one 100% mommy's fault. Well, yeah, they like I just yeah, whipped cream doesn't do it for me, man. If I can. I don't think people who like it should be jailed or anything like that. But yeah, that is Hershey's cheese lovers. No, not even cheese lovers. Just a plate of cheese. Like if you go to a party, and there's just a plate of cheese with no crackers. No, you know, if turkey or something like there's nothing to it. There's nothing else on the plate, but it's nothing but just cheese. I'm out. I'm somewhere that I don't want to be.

Genesis: 21:51

I don't think I'm such a huge fan of whipped cream. But when it's paired with things I don't like go out of my way to take it or remove it. And regularly buy it at the grocery store to add to any like ice creams or pies or whatever. But I think it's fine, I think I think it does have a good taste to it. It's got a sweet, fluffy texture paired with a crusty flaky pie. I think the two mesh were very well.

Rick: 22:12

No like, like Joey DSO? Well, he was talking specifically about Ranch, but he said fine if you'd like to taste the ass in your mouth. And sure. You either know who Joey Diaz is. He has a T shirt that says it's either blue cheese with wings or go fuck your mother.

Genesis: 22:37

But that's cheese, right?

Rick: 22:38

I mean, well, that's him. That's what he says. I love ranch. He hates ranch. But I'm saying that with whipped cream.

Genesis: 22:47

Yeah, I see. So it's to you whipped cream his ass in your mouth. And pretty much Oh,

Rick: 22:51

let's see. No, no, because I mean, look, look, I'm just gonna throw this out there. Hey, I know. It's our first the day that it depends on who it like.

Genesis: 22:59

It's priceless. Right? Like it's tasteless, like whipped cream. Yeah. Like it

Rick: 23:04

was different though. Because, like if Scarlett Johansson were to walk in my room and just spread. I wouldn't turn that away. If you know if I don't know. I don't know if the taste as is really a fair comparison. Because again, Scarlett Johansson walks in the room spread some I'm not gonna turn her away. You walk in and be like, Alright, you know,

Unknown: 23:28

you got to talk to me out.

Rick: 23:29

Yeah, okay.

Genesis: 23:30

You gotta get at it. Interesting. That's, uh, Thanks for clarifying. Harrison. I'm speaking of ass. I hate Oreos. Everybody loves Oreos. I don't really care for Oreos at all. On the food route. I don't like them. I love cookies. I love all sorts of cookies. Like Oreos. I think the comparison with whipped cream to tasteless I think Oreos are fairly tasteless. They don't taste like anything you expect sort of like the the haves or you know the cookie part to be sort of a chocolate and they they don't taste like chocolate to me It tastes like chalk lit I knew that. But But de creme filling it's hard like and you in people you see them like licking it out. It's hard. It's gross. But she's now as she said and now if you put a bunch of milk and let them soak and soggy into like a mush ball like that's what's good about the Oreo.

Rick: 24:33

Oh my goodness. That sounds

Genesis: 24:35

horrible. You take the spoon for it's all been sort of like floating in there and dissolve then then then it Oreo is is at its maximum efficient tastings.

Rick: 24:45

See? Okay, okay, I the visual I had was different. I do that as well. When you eat Oreos, you dip them in the milk and then once you're done with the Oreos, whatever chunks fell off, I just drink the milk with that still in there.

Genesis: 25:00

You know anybody and I'm saying skip that whole eat the cookie part and don't just throw it in there don't drown.

Rick: 25:05

Yeah, no. Your monster

Genesis: 25:09

they have no feelings. If you listen closely they scream a little but you know that they're releasing tastiness as they die in my milk.

BigRC: 25:18

Are you sure the men releasing their souls

Unknown: 25:20

in the room? I could be that could be that.

Rick: 25:24

I think we might have started a podcast with old dahmer over here.

Unknown: 25:29

Oh my goodness.

Rick: 25:32

So I think Yeah, Oreos are good chocolate chips, or I think those are awful. It's not on my list, but chocolate chip are discussed.

Genesis: 25:41

Are you talking? All forms of chocolate chip cookies?

Rick: 25:45

Yeah, just chocolate. Well, no, no, no. Freshly break. I'm sorry. Freshly baked chocolate chip cookies when they're still a little soft. Mm hmm. are good, but they're not yet within oatmeal raisin though. like oatmeal rain are amazing. Those are the best cookies. Like, like, that's not even up for debate. If I had to keep one and banish one from existence, oatmeal raisin cookies would be banished. Fuck, you know,

Genesis: 26:10

black Chips Ahoy storebought, chocolate chip cookies, those things? Again, they taste sort of like on the Oreo realm where they like it's just nothing but freshly baked cookies or like some of those like fancy ones or the subway cookies, we get that big chunk of chocolate. That's where it's at?

Rick: 26:25

No, not soundclick Heather's not here, because she would definitely be chiming in and letting me know how wrong I am. We know No, but but I didn't ever realize how much I'm in the minority, at least with my circle of friends with that. Because when I when I put up that Facebook post for the poll, and I lost, like, like 10 to one. Like, what was the poll? Would you rather have oatmeal raisin cookie or chocolate chip? And I think the final votes, it was like 61 chocolate chip to like, five oatmeal raisin. It was it was awful. And I was one of the

Genesis: 27:06

chocolate chip cookies is I think it's sort of known to be like the cookie. When you think of a cookie in your head. It's a chocolate chip cookie. I don't think that's that is a it's too surprising. Yeah,

Rick: 27:17

but I see I also kind of realize I'm really not a big fan of cookies to begin with. Like I don't particularly care for cookies, but if I had to choose Yeah, oatmeal raisin or are the toffee toffee nut crunch. I think it's another good one.

Genesis: 27:31

You just don't have taste buds is what I'm getting.

Rick: 27:36

I remember I liked oatmeal raisin bran cereal as a kid. And I still love it.

Genesis: 27:44

Just born an old man. Yeah, Rick's Rick's meals are probably the most boring meal. There's no cheese. There's no whipped cream. No chocolate. No snacking on leaves, like

BigRC: 27:55

the 85 year old Asian American with

Genesis: 27:59

his juice. And fig. fig fake news.

Rick: 28:05

Fake news are legit All right, here we go. No. Does anyone else like fakes

Unknown: 28:12

fake news? I do like

Rick: 28:14

what do you thought man this guy?

Genesis: 28:17

I'm saying I also like chocolate and other delicious things in the world. I haven't I haven't just narrowed my own my own types to just one Fig Newton

Rick: 28:26

nama. I feel like you're being dishonest. I think you have a I think in your kitchen right now. You have a little box oatmeal raisin cookies.

Genesis: 28:34

And there are no I do not know what cookies I have. Why have I have the strawberry and also chocolate wafer cookies. Oh, if you remember those, and these are like the generic brand ones which I think are that's actually you know that I'm gonna I'm gonna add that to my list generic brand food items. I while this doesn't really go with the topic, but I love and I think everybody hates sort of flip it a little bit. I think generic food brands are much better than name brand food items.

Rick: 29:08

Oh, you get the hell out of here.

Genesis: 29:11

I do lemon Hots, okay, vintners is a fitness Yeah, it's way better than Cheetos. Um,

Rick: 29:19

changed my mind I could I could probably agree to that. I can probably agree to that.

Genesis: 29:26

One I need

Rick: 29:28

any like offering cereal like instead of Frosted Flakes you're gonna eat frosted shakes or whatever the fuck they choose

Genesis: 29:39

yes, those are better than Captain the the generic brand Captain Crunch is much better than Captain Crunch.

Rick: 29:44

Dude, I would have first of all I didn't know they made when you're

Genesis: 29:46

getting Oh, yeah, yeah.

Rick: 29:49

What's the What's the name? I don't know. Lieutenant.

Genesis: 29:54

General serial

Rick: 29:59

Oh, No, no man. No, no, I just bought some Captain Crunch today might actually get us a bowl when we're done here. Hey, you just made me think of though, though. Back to the topic of cookies, those. I don't know if they're sugar cookies, but you know those? I think they're sugar cookies and they hate sugar cookies. Yeah, those are awful too. But it's the cookies with like the red or yellow frosting with all the sprinkles on top. And you see Yeah, like grocery stores. Isn't sugar cookies. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So the sugar cookies with the frosting on? Oh, those are awful two. Yeah, those are bright sodas. So many people's houses. Either for work or just people that are eating. They have everyone has them. And they're disgusting. No, they are not.

Genesis: 30:52

What are the what are the right ones?

BigRC: 30:54

The first of May. You got to get the one from Jules. Right. Oh, Joe, ASCO, known as they're so good compared to someone's you eat a heart? No, you get the soft ones with the frosting and sprinkles on there. Those are the best ones.

Rick: 31:09

No, no, there they are discussed. They they taste the cookies break just by touching them. Like you just pick them up and it's like dissolving into your hand already. Okay, but still. They made different forms of that cookie. I thought it was just like the soft Brady ones or whatever. I didn't know they made hard ones.

BigRC: 31:34

Yeah, some locations may go move. I don't touch those. So

Genesis: 31:39

it's rusting, sort of like on your tongue and you're like, Ooh, this is gonna be good. And then you finish the bite. And then you get that sort of like crumbly, bland. Like, what did I just put in my mouth feeling? And then you throw the rest of the cookie away. Like this is a mistake. Because it looks good. It's appealing to look at anything. Oh, that's gonna be delicious. As soon as I put my mouth around it,

Rick: 31:57

and then it's not.

Genesis: 31:59

It tastes like the disappointment. It's this disappointing cookie.

Rick: 32:03

But rcx did you have another?

BigRC: 32:05

Um, honestly, I really had to think about a hard long hard. Yeah, well, a I'm just saying. It's gonna blow your mind a little bit. But I really do feel this way. Social media.

Genesis: 32:20

Hmm. You hate social media? Obviously everyone loves it. Yeah. Yes. Any any social media in particular for all?

BigRC: 32:28

Oh, mainly all but focus on my one or two? It'll definitely Facebook and Instagram.

Genesis: 32:35

You hate Facebook and Instagram?

BigRC: 32:37

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not particularly a huge fan of social media. It seemed like, now what hashtags are going on, going around and everything in life, you just find these people at constant competition with one another, especially with the women on trying to show off and try to get on top of one another. Let's see who got the best body will get the most money. Who got the best look of boyfriend who's doing it big right now. And you know, and I feel like on a lot of people, even though they don't like to admit it, that affects them psychologically, you know, I'm saying, because, yeah, could they want to do that as well. And because of the position they're in, even though they're trying, they can never really achieve that level after slide deck? Well, I'm not a scientist, but I feel like that type of stuff could lead to dangerous thinking, which one thing I'll think about was suicide. But that's way off in the past. But I mean, I feel like that could be a beginning stage into leading down to like that and depression, you know?

Genesis: 33:43

Sure. I think there's a statistic out there that says, you know, the, this younger generation has a higher suicide rate and a lot of is equated to social media, and some of the bullying that can come along with it some of the competitive objectification. Yeah, I said, so we're like, we're not living up to certain standards that we feel in ourselves. Like, I see that I feel like, I feel like that's something that would be more towards Instagram, whereas Facebook is sort of a collection of your friends. What do you think you hate about Facebook?

Unknown: 34:14

Well,

Genesis: 34:15

those same rules apply that you just mentioned. Oh, no, they

BigRC: 34:18

definitely do. I mean, even within friends, or like maybe old classmates, or not like doing the same thing that they'll do on Instagram all the time to show off to see what's going on. They're not going to let COVID-19 stop them from taking trips and doing this and doing that, you know, I'm saying and it's kind of funny to look at I can see where Facebook could be more family and close friends orientated. But at the same time, you will get people who have like 5000 friends, I Oh, man, I have so many friends now. I should make like a life page. And then they make a life page then other women who will see that like, Oh, I got father's rent to me what's the like page two and once again, that competition starts On Facebook too, as well. And then you can track down and carry over to maybe Twitter and Instagram and you never know it might even lead them to want to do like a only page type of profile as well. You know, saying what we what you paid and see their fun little pictures and videos that they won't post on other social media websites? Sure.

Genesis: 35:21

I think that's definitely a possibility. I don't know if I see anything wrong with that. But I but I don't want to see on Facebook or social medias is Rex pullings on oatmeal cookies versus chocolate chip cookie? Well, I

BigRC: 35:34

guess we could ever agree on that one. So

Genesis: 35:36

yeah, I think yeah, that ruin social media for me.

BigRC: 35:41

For sure, is funny, too. Because I mean, let's speak real quick. Right. But like, I know, when it's all started with my space, I never got the energy from my space. You know, I'm saying it was something new. Everyone has joined up, connect, get to know people, I feel like now, it's not like that no more, it definitely has evolved into something. And I feel like it's gonna get worse down the line. Now, do I have proof of this? No, but just us being born the era where we saw how social media started and see where it is. Now. I guess we all agree that that is definitely has evolved.

Genesis: 36:20

Sure. And I think there's I think there's pros to it as well, you know, the the ease of which information can be transferred and how quickly we can know things in a heartbeat. I think it's cool for that type of stuff on both sides negative or positive. But I think I think that's what a lot of things that there's a bad side, and then there's a good side. And so we're lastly

BigRC: 36:42

agree with it. Because on the internet, it's on. It's on your Facebook, on your Instagram, like what do you research? Why? Sure.

Genesis: 36:49

Yeah, there's a lot of misinformation that is used against us a lot. Yeah.

Rick: 36:56

Absolutely. Like, it's, it's ridiculous how much like, I hate using the term fake news? Because? Because when you say that people immediately think you No, here no orders of them. But yeah, it's discussed and how many people get their news from memes. And, you know, they, they, for some reason, seem to think that a post with someone looking serious, and it somehow means that the post is true, you know, I don't I don't get it for the life of me. Oh, people are awful to each other on their, you know, I'm all for constructive criticism. Now, you know, people are going the Xbox game showcase that we just did a podcast for a couple days ago, you know, people are going on and on about how awful Halo looks. And and you know, like, again, I'm fine with constructive criticism. But when you start saying stuff, EFF you, I'll never buy another game again. And you know, your company's garbage and all that. Like, I don't know why people are like that, man.

Genesis: 37:59

There's no, there's no authority that saying like, here's here's how to properly post something on social media, you must cite your facts, you must do this, you must do that. There's nobody that's mean freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want. So people need to understand when they're looking at this stuff, that there is bias that plays in a role. There's misinformation. And as adults, we just need to be able to filter it in our own way. A lot of times we don't see that.

Rick: 38:23

No, yeah, no, not at all. We don't, we don't really live in a world where Yeah, like, I think it's gotten to the point where money is now more important than fact, you know, so. And also, it's always been that case, that's true. Denzel Washington put it best when he said that in today's society, it's not about who's right. It's about who's first you know, so it's about who can get the most attention for saying something outlandish or for whatever reason. Now many people I saw posting and sharing a post from an article that said, we were getting a second stimulus check next week, if anyone bothered to actually read the article, they say that they're going to discuss the second stimulus check next, meaning you're not getting anything next week. They just want to have discussion about it next week.

Genesis: 39:13

I think what you're talking about is clickbait right. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And and looking up stimulus check once and now my Google Alerts me of every news article that says stimulus second round coming soon or coming now or and then you read it? It's like, no, it's actually in discussion. But the headline is what most people are gonna actually take in and remember that big bold we're getting a second stimulus, or Rick confirmed to dislike cheese. And then you read the article and then it's like, completely different. Yeah.

Rick: 39:44

Yeah. Because everyone has money. Yeah, they scroll through their their feed, they see the headline and then that's it. They don't actually becomes back. Right. Right. And then you see, quote, unquote, reputable journalists doing it now. And you start to kind of realize like, Man, you know, these journalists, people who are paid to spread news and stuff like that they can be just as bad as the this regular shitheads that you are friends with on Facebook with their salacious headlines. And, you know, that's, that's why I try to tell people as much as possible, like, please, please do some, just a little research just a little bit, have some critical thinking just a little bit, don't just read the headlines or don't just, you know, same thing with liberal websites like, of course, if you go to a liberal website, you're only going to get the side that makes the liberals look good. You don't get both sides of the story. So I'm not saying be a conservative or be a liberal, I'm saying, you know, find a nice little middle ground, see both sides, and then form your own opinion that way.

Genesis: 40:51

And I don't even know if you need to find the middle ground, you just know what you're reading is what you know, to be true, or what you get. So you have to do the research. Yeah. And obviously, you know, we're lazy, and we don't want to do that. And we take the gist and we assume it's fact, but we all need to be better at that.

Rick: 41:05

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Genesis: 41:08

And that's my friends is our lesson for the day. Just be better humans guys. Just

Rick: 41:17

Yeah. Like that the message that you're typing about someone being an awful person or whatever it is, again, constructive criticism cool. You know, be be nice to each other. You know, and I'm

Genesis: 41:29

for when it comes to Christopher Lambert, then you can just say his face looks dumb. No, no other

Rick: 41:32

facts. Right? Everyone except Christopher Lambert deserves your respect. Everyone else, you know, even shown respect to Trump, but Crimson word? No,

Genesis: 41:44

I kind of feel like if this was like a video, like we cut to like Christopher Lambert, in his like boxers in front of a fireplace, listening to the podcast, he's like, this bitch. Yeah.

Rick: 41:57

Now, it could be I keep saying I can't, I cannot stress enough criticizing someone's ideas is one thing. But you do not have to attack the people. But on the flip side, I think the other side should not the other side. But I think the people who are taking the criticism should not take it. So personally, I cannot begin to tell you how many people have me blocked on Twitter, for all I like, I got a ton of people blocking me for what I said about control the game control, like I don't think it's Game of the Year material. There. I can name at least five games that came out last year that are a million times better games. You know, that's not that's not necessarily an attack on remedy, or on even people who enjoy control, but like, I just don't get it. You know, and I have so many people that blocked me because if because I don't like control, they they think that means that I don't like games where women are the lead character. You know, it's like I had one person actually argue that with me like, Oh, you just don't like women led games like Horizon Zero. Dawn is one of my favorite games of all time. So fiery, redheaded tick,

BigRC: 43:09

chick, right.

Rick: 43:12

And she's completely bad. Like, she's one of the best characters ever written. Tomb Raider, again, another female character. When I play Assassin's Creed, the last couple games, I picked the female characters. I'm sorry. It's just a vague game.

Genesis: 43:27

And I think stating your reasons for not liking control, or why it wouldn't deserve Game of the Year, I think you could outline that I believe you have the knowledge to sort of describe why it didn't deserve it. And I think that's kind of the point of this entire topic. What do you hate that everyone loves? And I think it's, we have the ability to have our preferences and choices. We can do that. And but we need to be able to outline the reasons why in some sort of conversational manner. Yeah. And when you're limited to 250 characters on Twitter, that doesn't really give you a whole lot to really go in depth on to why you dislike something. And that's, I think, a problem as well.

Rick: 44:07

Yeah. I just wish people would be nicer to each other. But then also, people that, you know, can take criticism a little better as well. But I think everyone even if you take social media out of the equation, I think people do need to understand that just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean it's an attack on that person. You know,

Genesis: 44:26

we're not really we're not really taught how to properly argue debate Converse on topics of personal preference. Yeah, we're not really guided through school on how to how to sort of navigate those types of conversations between two people.

Rick: 44:42

Yeah. When you when you guys are going through school. Do you remember having debate Cliff?

Genesis: 44:49

No.

BigRC: 44:50

High School? No college? Yes.

Rick: 44:52

All right. See, I think that's something that I think everybody should go through debate class. Your speed it shouldn't be taller. Yeah, yeah.

Genesis: 45:00

Something like it shouldn't be an elective or like, it should be something that you'd learn at a very young age.

Rick: 45:05

Yeah, it shows you how to how to articulate your thoughts more correct, or more appropriately, without using a text to convey whatever it is that you're trying to, you know, get across.

Genesis: 45:18

And we're kind of grow up through the as a child to where, like parents say, so like, I don't want Why do I need to do that? And I, because I say so. Yeah, we're taught very early, that conversations can be one sided. I mean, I'm not saying like, you have to tell your kids like, walk through the basic steps. But maybe what that is some sort of learning that could be be done at an early age, when you're talking to a kid, your child,

Rick: 45:44

I, that's what I teach my girls growing up, like, Hey, you know, first of all, don't don't ever let someone silence you. But you will also need to know to be respectful. Just because you're trying to get your point across doesn't mean you want to silence the other person by just talking over them, you know, Hear hear the other personnel, try to, you know, try to remain level headed, because emotion can drive a lot of negative thoughts, you know, I can easily Yeah, if you're emotional about whatever you're talking about, then, you know, it can lead you to saying and doing stupid stuff. Yeah, you know, and I teach them every day, like with what you just said, Jen, where I don't teach my girls that, you know, hey, if I tell them to do something, I try to explain them why I told them the way to do something. And then if they asked me, you know, why? And I just say, Well, you know, again, I explained why, instead of just saying, Oh, I'm your parent, I'm telling you what to do, you know, do it. You know,

Genesis: 46:45

I think that's important.

Rick: 46:46

Yeah. Because I never want my girls to grow up to think that they need to be controlled, but they're like, there's a it's a way it's a weird thing to explain, like, I want them to be respectful. But then also be free. Like you can do both. You can be respectful with people, but then you can also feel like hey, I'm gonna say what I want to say, you know, I'm gonna be as respectful as I can. And if that offends you, then you know I'm sorry I apologize for you feeling that way. But this is how I feel. I'm not going to change who I am just because of your feelings you know, and that that actually brings up another topic we're gonna get in some hot water on this podcast I got some I got some podcast topics that I think I didn't put them on that list but I got some topics I think my front pages Stay tuned.

Genesis: 47:42

I think we covered a lot we we learned a lot about Rick and in big RC cheese john legend

BigRC: 47:49

with grain

Genesis: 47:51

whipped cream, Christopher Lambert

BigRC: 47:53

in order for some

Genesis: 47:55

Oreos. Did you guys have any other last ones? You wanted to rattle off real quick before we close down the show? Oh,

Rick: 48:03

you got one RCW

BigRC: 48:05

But no, I

Unknown: 48:05

do not. I

BigRC: 48:06

can't take my nails right now.

Rick: 48:08

Oh, I have I have one it's a twofer though.

Unknown: 48:11

Well, okay.

Rick: 48:13

Bomb your chick and shy town ghost man.

Unknown: 48:15

Okay.

Genesis: 48:20

Does everyone love them? I don't know. I don't know if that that quite fits.

Rick: 48:26

Now they're there. those are those are my guys. I love them. But she cries man if I could. And especially that that bombshell chick. Oh my goodness. Yeah,

Genesis: 48:36

that one is Yeah, tell me about it. We could have a whole podcast hour talking about

Unknown: 48:42

fellow should

Genesis: 48:45

All right. Well, there you have it. That was the The Haven exchange went into some cool. Some conversations there. I enjoyed that.

Unknown: 48:52

Yeah,

BigRC: 48:54

definitely did my eyes up to want to combine cheese with cream and Oreos now just try to

Rick: 49:01

Oh my goodness.

Genesis: 49:03

I think we need to get Rick on on video tasting various cheeses and watching his reactions. I want to I want to dive into the psyche of this. It's not gonna happen though. This. Alright, so yes, that was the Haven exchange. Everybody brought to you by the Gamer's Haven Network is a community that we've built of streamers, gamers and all sorts of wonderful people. If you're listening to this from the Haven Network, what's up, we love you. If If you're new to the community, you can find us on all the social medias that big RC hates. We'll drop the links wherever this is posted so you guys can come and join the discord community, follow us on all the other social medias, jump in with the rest of the community and maybe we can get you on as a guest on our show. So we'll we'll have some more announcements and outlining of what this podcast is going To be of course, we'll be a little bit more prepared and I'll have the question right on the on the next.

BigRC: 50:08

trial and error trial and error.

Genesis: 50:10

Yeah. Let's see so big I see who are you Where can people find you? What do you want to promote? Who

Unknown: 50:15

What do

Genesis: 50:15

you want to say as we

BigRC: 50:18

mainly on Twitch now you can find me on Twitch dot TVs is a forward slash yes big RC underscore gh also the social media is I do not like But hey, if you want to catch me on there@twitter.com forward slash big rc 56 and instagram.com forward slash big rc 56 consistent I love it.

Genesis: 50:43

Rick, are you

Unknown: 50:46

so

Rick: 50:49

not really streaming at the moment but you can definitely catch me on the social media. I am on twitter at Phantom underscore ci h n that's about it. I mean yeah at some point once I get my situation a little bit better I'll probably get back into streaming but for right now follow me on Twitter for some some stupid stuff.

Genesis: 51:14

There you go. Like how we all just shit on social media and like Follow us on all these.

BigRC: 51:20

It'd be

Genesis: 51:21

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