Flashback: In the Field With Poughkeepsie Rising's Su The Producer and Talent Davis As They Discuss Revolutionizing the Local Art Scene With Ella's Jukebox Cafe

Air Date:  November 28, 2022 on 91.3FM WVKR-

Discover the inspiring mission of Poughkeepsie Rising and how they're revolutionizing the local art scene. Join us as we chat with Sue the Producer behind "Ella's Jukebox Cafe," and the talented Talent Davis. You'll learn the importance of paying artists fairly and the significance of spotlighting overlooked legends like Ella Fitzgerald. Su opens up about her commitment to transparency, tackling past unpaid work issues, and the joys of properly compensating hometown talent.

Get ready to laugh and be amazed by the dynamic performances in Poughkeepsie Rising's musical revue, where artists portray larger-than-life versions of themselves in a family-friendly revue. With Juson Williams of America's Got Talent fame directing and choreographing, this production promises not just entertainment but also community impact. The episode wraps up with heartfelt stories of the arts' transformative power, from reducing crime to enhancing student lives, and an unforgettable anecdote about Ella Fitzgerald's Grammy-winning performance of "Mack the Knife," proving that even mistakes can lead to greatness.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:25

you. Hi everyone, erin boogie here bringing you a throwback interview with Sue, the producer of Poughkeepsie Rising alongside Talent Davis. I wanted to air this interview because Sue is hard at work on another Poughkeepsie Rising production entitled A Lady in Zuav, a musical based on the life of Cathay Williams. Who is Cathay Williams, you ask? She was the only woman to serve in the US Army as a Buffalo soldier and enlisted at just 17 years old by disguising herself as a man under the name William. Cathay William served under the service of General Philip Sheridan and witnessed the Red River Campaign and the Battle of Pea Ridge during the American Civil War. According to the National Parks website, over 400 women served in the Civil War by posing as male soldiers, but Williams was the first Black woman to enlist and the only documented woman to serve in the US Army. She is also the only known Buffalo soldier.

Speaker 1: 1:15

I thought that was a really interesting subject matter and I hope to sit down with Sue again to be able to discuss this before opening night of the new musical. So, sue, if you're listening, please come on our show. In the meantime, I'm really excited to revisit her interview with Talent about her production of Ella's Jukebox Cafe. I know that musical was a labor of love for all involved, and I can't believe we didn't get this interview out to our listeners sooner, so I really hope you enjoy it. Welcome back to In the Field Radio. I'm Erin Boogie. I'm Erin Boogie. I'm here with Miss Lady D. What's going on? And we have Sue, the producer and Talent from Ella's Jukebox Cafe.

Speaker 2: 1:47

Hey, peace, love and light everybody. We're super excited to be here with you guys. Super excited to be here.

Speaker 1: 1:58

Thank you so much for the opportunity. Really appreciate it. So real quick. For our listeners who might not be familiar with you guys, why don't you guys just take a second to introduce who you are and tell them a little bit about what you got going on?

Speaker 2: 2:07

So my name is Talon Davis. I'm a Poughkeepsie native, a production team member and a cast member of Poughkeepsie Rising's first ever production of Ella's Jukebox Cafe. Poughkeepsie rising's mission is to bring paid professional opportunities in the performing arts to up-and-coming artists of all ages from poughkeepsie and the greater hudson valley area, and we are mounting our very first production at the james and betty hall theater at duchess community college that's awesome she was.

Speaker 3: 2:44

we have the interview with LS Jukebox and I was like, well, what's LS Jukebox? Because we've just been calling it like the play, the play, the play, the play. And I was like, well, what the hell is that?

Speaker 2: 2:56

Well, ok, well, let's correct one thing it is not a play, it is a musical. It's a musical. It's a musical and, to be even more specific, it is a musical review. And for some of our listeners who may not know what a musical review is. A musical review just means it's almost like a mini musical, so it's not a full scale musical.

Speaker 4: 3:20

Like Rent or anything like that, right.

Speaker 2: 3:22

Like a Rent or the like that Right. Like a rent or the like, right. It's more so like a mini musical that has a storyline, a through line, but primarily involves singing, right? So it's dancing and you know acting, of course, and you're back, so do you want to introduce yourself?

Speaker 4: 3:44

Yes, darling. Hello, my name is Sue the producer. I represent the Living History Theater, which is producing this musical review. Living History Theater is a brand new production company bringing history that is normally left out of the conversation or overlooked or forgotten, like Ella Fitzgerald being living in Hudson, new York. When I found that out, I said, oh my God, we got to let people know that Ella Fitzgerald is a historical icon from the Hudson. And, at the end of the day, um, I knew that my first uh debut as a production company needed to um pay everybody that was involved. So, um, I put together a team, um, and we got it freaking put up and in a couple of weeks a couple days actually, oh my god, a couple days we'll we'll have our debut and people will have gotten paid and people will have seen an amazing show, amazing can I ask this question, or I'm gonna ask this question early, but I want to see a face response.

Speaker 3: 4:59

I think that I think that personally, I have an elephant in the room. I don't know if anybody wants to, else wants to admit to this elephant, but both of you mentioned that your organization brings paid opportunities to people, which I think is really important and really cool for this area, because I just see a lot of people do like free stuff and they're kind of like you know, they get just it's discouraging, you know, and exposure does not pay the bills with this?

Speaker 3: 5:27

uh, someone involved with this production does not have a history of making sure people get paid, I'm sorry. And so how did, how did you guys end up looking with this person? How is it, how, how is it working with this person?

Speaker 4: 5:45

yeah, um, oh, go ahead, sue, go ahead um, I'm not sure what that is or whoever this individual is, but, darling, when anybody joins my production, people are going to get paid. I don't deal in whatever happened in the past or whatever someone is, whatever, I don't deal with that. All I do is make sure that when you guys join the team, it is expected and understood that people can get paid. So it was, uh, as we said earlier, pre-production and uh, we are going into the hall at this point, so I'm not sure, but that has nothing to do with this, you dig yeah and yeah, absolutely, sue and lady d, you know.

Speaker 2: 6:27

The other thing that I want people to know is that you know, as I said earlier, I'm a Poughkeepsie native and I've been singing and performing here, you know, since I was a very small child and so, um, one of the reasons why I'm so grateful to be a part of this particular production and this particular team is that they have placed paying artists for their work at the center. That is not a practice, as you said. You know that we see very often in the city of poughkeepsie, um, particularly, um, and in general, people have this notion that artists are supposed to just give of themselves and their souls for free, and as if artists or artistry is not an expertise that we have to develop and cultivate and learn and grow in, just like any other profession that you would pay to or pay to, uh, get right. So, so, yeah, that was super important for for Poughkeepsie Rising, and let me also say this Poughkeepsie Rising is a brand new non-profit only spanking new, spanking new spanking new.

Speaker 2: 7:42

Only been around for about a year um no, not even darling, not even um.

Speaker 4: 7:47

That would be like what? Six months?

Speaker 2: 7:50

right, right, right. So. So a full year, right, um, but what Poughkeepsie Rising has been able to do in terms of fundraising and and and, you know, ensuring that it pays its cast and crew, has been nothing short of amazing, so yeah but that's so exciting.

Speaker 3: 8:08

Yeah, because I was like, how is it? Because there's some people that were part of that old way and I'm like, so how has people? Been paid because they just don't have the history of doing that. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, so to see you guys be able to change that is really special to. To be honest.

Speaker 1: 8:25

Well and talk about the origin of the play, how that came about. I know you guys had gone through some changes because it was originally supposed to be a play, Now it's a musical review. Talk about putting Poughkeepsie Rising together and how all this came to be.

Speaker 4: 8:39

Well, I'll take that, talyn. So at the very, very, let's go back to the. No, I'm joking.

Speaker 2: 8:47

But what?

Speaker 4: 8:49

happened was as an ovary right. So at the beginning of the year I just made a conscious decision to tell history that has been forgotten, overlooked or just disrespected, to be truly honest. So there's a lot of history that when it hits the movie theaters or however, it kind of gets diluted, it gets changed, all kinds of stuff. So I wanted to keep the history as close to actual reality as possible and that's where I developed Living History Theater and once Ella Fitzgerald's story came through a playwright, we decided that we were going to mount this production as the historical telling of Ella Fitzgerald's life in Hudson, new York. Now, as people may or may not know, but there's different things that can happen in the production when you're when things are happening and we were not able to fully go through with the historical play I'm telling of Ellis story. But we realized that even for a December show the story was a little heavy and we said, well, it would be in our better interest to start some to do something like a musical review which is easier to pull off. We'll be able to showcase more talent and it'll be a light, more lighthearted story, not only being a more lighthearted story, but a reintroduction to Ella Fitzgerald in general, to people who did know Ella Fitzgerald and people who didn't know who Ella Fitzgerald was. So we realized, through just the journey of trying to put on this historical play, that we needed a little bit more time to put on a full on. I mean, we were pretty like done ho about getting things done, but we also want to do things with a certain kind of quality, a certain level of quality. So we did not want to rush putting up the historical talent of Ella Fitzgerald's life in the Hudson, but what we did still want to do was put up something that would bring people to the understanding of who Ella Fitzgerald was as a musical historical icon. I mean, she did so many things. Guys, please look up Ella Fitzgerald. She's hilarious. Not only hilarious, but she's just amazing in general and have some fun for December.

Speaker 4: 11:20

So that's really where the seed for Poughkeepsie Rising came from, because while we were going, all the talent involved was really an undertaking. There's no artist in residency program. So we're literally we realized that we were building an airplane as we were flying it and we realized that we needed a not-for-profit for that. We need to get really big money for this, especially if we're going to pay people. We're looking at an upwards of 80 something thousand dollars. Oh my God, we were like what are we going to do but shout out to the UU and Community Matters too for helping us out before we got our not-for-profit status?

Speaker 4: 12:20

But yeah, that's how Poughkeepsie Rising came about. Living History Theater took on wanting to pay tribute to Ella Fitzgerald once I found out that she was a Hudson Valley native. And then we realized, in order to really pull it off, like Talyn said, with paying people the rate, that is like you know, not like just a stipend that you could go and get some Chuck E Cheese. You can actually go and do something with this stipend that we give you guys. So that's how Poughkeepsie Rising and Living History Theater was able to come together.

Speaker 1: 12:57

How did you come across the information that Ella Fitzgerald had ties to the Hudson Valley?

Speaker 4: 13:05

Well, again, the playwright that came to us at the very beginning. Let us know that Ella Fitzgerald was a Hudson Valley resident and that was the understanding that she had gone through this turbulent lifestyle, but she was able to overcome it and then go to Harlem and then win the very first Apollo's Amateur Night. So it's a very harrowing story of overcoming adversity and things like that. So at the beginning of the year, a playwright let us know about that, and we were able to just be like, of course we got to pay tribute. Sell if it's daryl. That's crazy. Nobody, very few people, let's, I won't say nobody, but very few people knew that fact and that blew me away yeah, that that's incredible.

Speaker 1: 13:58

That's an important piece of history for our area right now.

Speaker 3: 14:03

talent, you're in the show also. This is why you're allowed to be late, oh my God.

Speaker 2: 14:10

This is why what.

Speaker 3: 14:12

This is why you're allowed to be late. Listen here, All right. Who are you in the musical review?

Speaker 2: 14:23

Yeah, so it's kind of funny to say, because I'm actually playing myself in terms of, like, the title of my character. My character's name is Talent, all of the characters in this, in this fantastical world that you're going to see. We're all playing ourselves in terms of our names, but our characters are characters, so so, You'll be like oh really, this is how you get down.

Speaker 3: 14:55

Oh, okay, right, right.

Speaker 2: 14:56

So it's like it's like a larger than life type of extension of who we are as individuals and in that way the show is very pedestrian, in that way, right. So like we're not necessarily, you know, coming up with characters or movement or anything like that that feels choreographed or or that feels like it's outside of us, but rather rather um, channeling, uh, who we are on the inner and blowing that out of proportion for a character that people will be entertained by.

Speaker 3: 15:39

So like shrooms.

Speaker 4: 15:41

Oh, my God Now we got to edit. Right Right, totally Yo. Now we gotta edit, is that right right, totally yo. I like it. Pg-13, baby, pg-13. And the show is a family and the show is a family friendly show, so the whole family can come to this we recommend ages 7 and up, but it's definitely a family show.

Speaker 2: 16:12

It's freaking hilarious, like our. Um. The person who conceived the show is also our director and choreographer, and his name is jason williams. Um, you might know that name from. I believe it was season 16 of america's got talent. Um, the aws, um, inspirational singers were on america's got talent. Um, if you don't know who that is or or haven't heard of it, please do google it or youtube it.

Speaker 2: 16:45

Um, they are absolutely phenomenal and jason is a riot to work with um, and we're so grateful to have him, uh, be a part of the production and he is hilarious, so, and he is a character, so I feel like he inserted himself himself in the show. So definitely come and check it out and, uh, you're gonna, you're gonna get that. You're gonna get some comedy. You're gonna get, uh, some amazing singing. Okay, yes, you're like you get a little bit of everything, but I mean, when you guys see the talent that that you know will be on that stage, like you will be blown away. And I'm not saying that because I'm a part of the cast. I'm saying that because this cast is actually amazing, so I'm very excited and they're all from the hudson valley.

Speaker 4: 17:36

Like 99.9 percent. Jason is coming up from new york city, um, you know, but 99.99 of the cast is from the hudson Valley. Which is another thing that we wanted to be very super clear about was the money that we do get from these sponsors. Shout out to City Poughkeepsie. Shout out to the AKAs, you know, shout out to the county. We wanted to pump that back into Poughkeepsie and the Hudson Valley, so that's definitely something to be proud about.

Speaker 1: 18:16

And we're pretty tapped in as far as who's out here in the community talent wise, pun intended and you know. So we know, know talent, we know rose mariah, etc. Etc. And it was, um, it's really cool to see them being a part of such a big production, outside of what they do on their own time right people that care about them, because it hurts my soul when I see people get just used and taken advantage of and that happened or not, have opportunities in this area.

Speaker 2: 18:49

That part that part, not that I was gonna say poughkeepsie. One thing about poughkeepsie there's no shortage of talent here at all. I don't know. You know, people have these like weird preconceptions about poughkeepsie. Like when they hear poughkeepsie they're like oh, it's a hick town with tumbleweed and you know they think of gunshots and robberies.

Speaker 4: 19:10

Straight up? No, it is true though.

Speaker 3: 19:13

I do.

Speaker 2: 19:13

I was like oh, I'm out of here, but part of the beauty of Poughkeepsie, not even part. I would argue that the most beautiful thing about Poughkeepsie is its people. And like I said about Poughkeepsie is its people. And, like I said, like there is no shortage of talent here, but there is a shortage of opportunities, and so Poughkeepsie Rising is working to change that and to my knowledge it is the only organization, perhaps even the first of its kind, specifically designed to bring paid professional opportunities in the performing arts. There's a lot of organizations working on the visual arts and things of that nature. But in my years of living I'm not going to say how old I am I already know.

Speaker 2: 20:03

Okay, e don't be putting me on blast for all these people Right.

Speaker 3: 20:07

That's what I said all 21, I don't amen, please do look, look, touch hair behind ear.

Speaker 2: 20:15

I'm like that's out of college clearly. Um no, you know, in all my years I've not seen an organization like the gipsy rising, so I'm so happy to be a part of it and that that that they're here, you know. So we need people to support, support, buy tickets come see us.

Speaker 1: 20:37

We'll talk about a little bit about some of the songs that you guys are performing in the musical, because it's not just straight up like that's all I'm gonna ask you wait a minute. Hold on that. No, they. That's spoilers, right there.

Speaker 3: 20:45

okay, I have to protect the show Because it's not just straight up like. That's all I'm going to ask you about. Wait a minute, hold on.

Speaker 4: 20:49

No, that's spoilers right there. Okay, I have to protect the show.

Speaker 2: 20:52

Right, we can't tell you Did you sign an NDA?

Speaker 1: 20:56

Because if you didn't, then spoil away Yikes. No.

Speaker 4: 21:01

We know how this works up in here.

Speaker 1: 21:04

She's a bad influence over here's like even just uh, just describe a little bit, um the music that people can expect. If you don't want to give up song titles and that sort of thing, that's fine, but just that way, a little bit of an idea okay, explain um the jukebox, um the mod post-modern jukebox effect.

Speaker 2: 21:22

Is how we're going to be doing that that's we, we're on the same page, sue, sue, sue is like my, sue is my big sis. You know um. You know we be on the same vibe, the same frequency, and it's crazy but so um, what you can expect is is is essentially like we are taking these these okay.

Speaker 2: 21:47

So, okay, let me say this there's something called the postmodern jukebox on YouTube, right, and what they essentially do is they take jazz songs, jazz covers, you know, traditional jazz standards, things of that nature, and they interpret them in a modern way while paying homage to the jazz style or big band style of music of the jazz era. We are essentially doing something very similar, right, where we are taking these jazz, these, you know, Ella songs, and turning them into production numbers, right, Taking these Ella songs and kind of interpreting them for the theater or, as Sue would say, for the theater. You know, we're taking these songs that a lot of people know, love and cherish and paying homage to Ella in a way that is exciting, in a way that is very theatrical and dramatized but also blends the past with the present.

Speaker 4: 23:05

Yes.

Speaker 2: 23:07

I like that, that that's gonna be so exciting yeah, it's, it's honestly listen when y'all see this, this opening number oh my gosh this opening number is wild. It's wild like I'm would. I tell you we was, we were in rehearsal going over the, the opening number, just actually the other day and, um, when I tell you I was sweating, I was sweating like that number kicks my butt like it was. It was, it's, it's, it's honestly amazing, it's amazing you have to you have to see it.

Speaker 1: 23:47

You gotta come see it well, tell the listeners, when it is where it is, how they can see it yeah, sue uh, so it's going to be at the james and betty hall theater at dutchess community college.

Speaker 4: 24:02

Shout out to dcc.

Speaker 1: 24:03

Shout out to tommy my final big question is what is next for Poughkeepsie rising?

Speaker 4: 24:09

oh, darling a nap um. Let's keep it real, no um heard you, but give me strength and lord.

Speaker 4: 24:18

Um, but no, seriously. Um, it was a huge undertaking getting this debut put up and really the next thing for Poughkeepsie Rising is to do a understanding of what worked, what didn't work and build the infrastructure so that things are simpler, going forward and then mounting the next show, which will be, again, a tribute to Ella Fitzgerald. But we won't be talking about the specifics of that at this moment because we are still getting. You guys get tickets for this show, but for Gipsy rising is not done, for Gipsy's rising is not done by a long stop.

Speaker 2: 25:00

Yes, gipsy rising is here to stay for the long haul, which is why we need y'all to support, support, support, support, support, support, support. We need you to buy tickets. We need you to spread the word. Word of mouth is the most effective.

Speaker 1: 25:14

Tell a friend, to tell a friend.

Speaker 2: 25:17

We need everybody, and their mama and their cousin and their brothers and their sisters and their baby mamas and daddies.

Speaker 4: 25:23

And that's basically all of Talon's family makes up my whole. You know what?

Speaker 2: 25:30

I'm saying we have everybody at the show so that we can prove right to our donors, to our sponsors to our community, that this is something that the community needs and this is also something that the community wants. Talon, can you just stop? I'm trying to pull something that community wants.

Speaker 3: 25:45

Uh, I'm trying to pull up on opening night. I'm trying to be there after the lights, you know right with a hot date oh lord, look at that.

Speaker 4: 25:55

Yeah, you can snuggle up. You can snuggle up at our show you don't think I'm all cultured. Yeah, oh my god, cut it out. Talent. Can you give a shout out to our sponsors in our ad the folks that are in our program ad please?

Speaker 2: 26:11

Yes, absolutely so. We want to give a shout out to our sponsors and to folks who have purchased ads. So shout out to the Poughkeepsie Performing Arts Academy. Shout out to Fall Kill Creative Works. Shout out to Minute man Press. Shout out to Amadeus Strings. Shout out to Jade Seed Soaps. Shout out to Lead for Poughkeepsie, which I am a fellow of. Yes, shout out to our allies. We have a lot of them, but we want to shout out right now, the public arts commission for the city of Poughkeepsie. We want to shout out the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship Community, matters 2, arts, mid Hudson, the Family Partners Center, queen City Lounge, reason and Reckoning. And a huge shout out to our Common Council members.

Speaker 4: 27:09

Yes, and the AKAs, whom Ella Fitzgerald was an honorary member, of which is another piece in history that a lot of people did not know about.

Speaker 2: 27:20

Yes, yes, shout out to the AKAs. They set it off with the donations from the Pan-Hellenic Council. Thank y'all. So much, everybody, and please, please. We are still accepting sponsorship and program ads for our playbill, so if you are interested in that, please do email Sue.

Speaker 4: 27:44

Yes, please. Poughkeepsierising at gmailcom.

Speaker 1: 27:48

Is there anything else that you guys want to let the listeners know?

Speaker 4: 27:52

Well, yes, go ahead, talon.

Speaker 2: 27:55

You go first, sue, you go first.

Speaker 4: 27:56

No, no, I'm going to close it out. I'm going to talk about Mac and Knife, but you go ahead y'all.

Speaker 2: 28:01

Well, we don't have our official Instagram yet, but you can follow the journey at TalentMusicENT Again, that's at Talent flyer. You can do that at my instagram at talent music ent. Um, and the last thing I want to say is just that, like, I'm just so grateful, man, like I, I, this is like the like, the inner child in me, the little boy in me, is like screaming and jumping for joy. Um, because all I've ever wanted to do is be an artist that's well-known here in my hometown, but also be compensated for the work that goes into being an artist. And so this is such a wonderful opportunity and I'm so excited about the arts movement that Poughkeepsie Rising is endeavoring to undertake, because we know that the arts is super impactful.

Speaker 2: 29:17

We know that the arts helps to reduce and prevent crime. We know that it helps to reduce and prevent violence Right, and these are things that plague our community. We also know from the transformation the PCSD transformation that the arts, and specifically the performing arts, is the number one career pathway of Poughkeepsie City students. That is the thing that most students want to do. So there is an alignment of activity happening here in the city of Poughkeepsie, no-transcript. So I'm super, super grateful and thank you so much for this opportunity.

Speaker 4: 30:37

Yes. So my last thing is I want to set up what song is going to be played um once we uh rap, because oops, one second, I'm also driving y'all, so I just want to make sure, okay, um, so, um, one thing about Ella Fitzgerald was darling she would always give it a shot, and that's one thing that I definitely have learned. Putting on this show, um, helping develop Poughkeepsie Rising um, and just launching a whole production company from scratch within a year, um, being able to put up something. A lot of people look at mistakes in a certain way, where they think that it's negative or they put so much on it whereas it becomes a scary, a big scary thing. And Elephant's Gerald taught us all a lesson with the song that's about to be played. Um, it's called mac the knife, and she just really liked the song, and one day, during a live uh performance, she said let's give it a shot, let me see if I can sing mac tonight. Uh, she didn't. She forgot the words in the middle of the song, forgot completely, forgot the words, all right, but she didn't let that stop her. She scattered and hum-hahed her way through that song. She did not stop. Okay, that's the key. She did not stop and guess what? Y'all the people that listen, you guys got to go and listen to this song.

Speaker 4: 32:20

She won an award, I think it was a grammy. She won an award for a mistake, and that is what I always want to leave people with is, what you may think is a mistake is either a learning lesson or it's some sort of leveling up. You're learning what your weaknesses may or may not be, or it's not a mistake really at all, because she was able to knock down a lot of barriers and walls. As far as scatting and things like that, um, that really would not have even possibly happened had she not made all those mistakes during mac the night in 19 in the 1950s.

Speaker 4: 33:02

So that's what I want to leave people with. We're not all, nobody's perfect, nobody knows everything, and we learn through our mistakes. So if you're feeling like down, or you're feeling like you know you're a failure, or you're feeling like like you're not doing whatever you think you might supposed to be doing, uh, give yourself a break. All right, give yourself a break, um, and really just look at what positives you're getting out of it. I like, I like to tell people uh, even manure gets sold to make uh vegetables.

Speaker 4: 33:41

So think about it point of view. Okay, and that's uh, that's a message from sue directly.

Speaker 1: 33:50

All right. Well, thank you guys for sitting down with us absolutely thank you even though we're not sitting, but I am no, but thank you guys for taking time out to sit with us. We're super excited, break a leg, opening night and hopefully we'll be in the crowd cheering you guys on absolutely I'm gonna be there hopefully, not hopefully.

Speaker 4: 34:16

You're coming, you're opening night baby.

Speaker 3: 34:21

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