When the unimaginable happens and we're left holding the pieces of a shattered life, where do we find the strength to rebuild? Annah Elizabeth joins us to courageously share her story. She speaks to the soul's remarkable ability to weather life's harshest storms, offering an inspiring testament to the power of hope and the multifaceted nature of our existence that each play a part in guiding us through our darkest days. Annah's journey underscores the fact that healing is not a destination, but rather a collection of moments that, when stitched together, create a tapestry of regained strength and purpose.
Through the lens of personal experiences, we examine the need to nurture and prioritize the different facets of our personality, especially those we often overlook. A holistic approach to well-being, treating the mind, body, and spirit as interconnected pieces of a larger puzzle, emerges as a critical strategy for preventing our foundation from crumbling under the weight of life's challenges. We wrap up by extending an invitation to our listeners to engage with our community, share their stories, and carry this vital conversation forward.
10th Anniversary edition of Annah's memoir: Digging for the Light: One Woman's Journey from Heartache to Hope is available where all books are sold. Here's the Amazon link.
When the unimaginable happens and we're left holding the pieces of a shattered life, where do we find the strength to rebuild? Annah Elizabeth joins us to courageously share her story. She speaks to the soul's remarkable ability to weather life's harshest storms, offering an inspiring testament to the power of hope and the multifaceted nature of our existence that each play a part in guiding us through our darkest days. Annah's journey underscores the fact that healing is not a destination, but rather a collection of moments that, when stitched together, create a tapestry of regained strength and purpose.
Through the lens of personal experiences, we examine the need to nurture and prioritize the different facets of our personality, especially those we often overlook. A holistic approach to well-being, treating the mind, body, and spirit as interconnected pieces of a larger puzzle, emerges as a critical strategy for preventing our foundation from crumbling under the weight of life's challenges. We wrap up by extending an invitation to our listeners to engage with our community, share their stories, and carry this vital conversation forward.
10th Anniversary edition of Annah's memoir: Digging for the Light: One Woman's Journey from Heartache to Hope is available where all books are sold. Here's the Amazon link.
The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.
Stephanie:
Welcome to As I Live and Grieve, a podcast that tells the truth about how hard this is. We're glad you joined us today. We know how hard it is to lose someone you love and how well-intentioned friends and family try so hard to comfort us. We created this podcast to provide you with comfort, knowledge and support. We are grief advocates, not professionals, not licensed therapists. We are YOU.
Kathy:
Hi everyone. Welcome back again to As I Live and Grieve, thank you, thank you. Thank you, as always, for popping back, for listening in. If this is your first time, thanks for taking a chance. I hope you enjoy what you're about to hear. I have no doubt that you will. Actually, I'm that confident in this podcast myself and our guest. If I could, just before I introduce our guest, I just want to kind of remind everybody, if you're on Facebook, and who isn't, just pop over to the group, As I Live and Grieve, and join us. We're kind of going through some of the myths of grief right now and it's your chance to comment as we go along With me today as my guest. I am so happy to have met, to have crossed paths with this lady, Annah Elizabeth. Thanks so much for joining me today.
Annah:
Thank you for having me, Kathy. I am super excited that we were able to find each other in this big, vast world.
Kathy:
Absolutely. I love how these connections happen and I'm just awestruck sometimes how it happens, but so happy when it does, and I'm blessed and very happy to include you in my network now. So, before we get started, you have what I feel is an extremely compelling story. Would you like to share some of your story with our listeners, please?
Annah:
I will Thank you. So my healing journey, what I call lost grief and healing journey, really sort of went into high gear on May 11th 1990, when my firstborn died following unexpected delivery complications. And I remember thinking, lying in the hospital bed hours after he died, that I didn't want to spend a lifetime mourning him. And what I say is I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know what it looked like on the other side or how the heck I was ever going to get there. But I had that thought.
Annah:
And over the next seven years I would go on to experience two second trimester miscarriages, two complicated but successful pregnancies, a six week psychiatric stay for severe depression and one final pregnancy. Six weeks before that child was born, I found out that my husband and my best friend were indeed having an affair. The question that drove me through that seven year string of losses was how is it that some people go on to live happy, fulfilled lives following tragedy, mishap or mayhem, while others succumb to drugs, despair, life avoid or suicide Right? That question spawned thousands more questions and I ended up, of course, every time I found an answer, I healed and ultimately, what I discovered is we're all born with everything we need to rise above, triumph over whatever words you or our listeners want to use, over tragedy, mishap or mayhem. We're all born with that and we can rise above any adversity that we experience.
Kathy:
Right, right, just seven years of losses. And your very first loss is one that you and I have a parallel on, because I too lost a baby very unexpectedly at full term, and at the time they of course did an autopsy because I wanted to know should I try to have another child, and it was determined that pretty much every major system in his body had defects somewhere, that I had acquired a fever at that point in labor. They don't know if it was due to a hospital error or anything, and I just wasn't at that point. It didn't matter. At that point I had to move on.
Kathy:
I did after that have two successful pregnancies and births. I have two wonderful daughters. My last experience with that, with my younger daughter, Kelly, was very complicated. Nonetheless, I made it through. Now I love what you say, that we're all born with everything we need. The big question is how do we find it when we need it?
Annah:
How did you find what you needed when you needed it? So, ultimately, how I found what I needed when I needed, it was a combination of things, I say it's never just one thing. So all of those questions, that one question spawned thousands more questions and I pursued those answers. So, ultimately, when I wrote one of the, when I did one of the final edits on my memoir Digging for the Light - O ne Woman's Journey from Heartache toH ope, which is the memoir that chronicles that seven-year period of losses and how hope carried me through. It's a reflective memoir that shares not only what I went through emotionally but how that hope propelled me into a different world, right Into healing.
Annah:
When I was doing one of the final edits for that, there's a chapter or section where I wrote about how I felt right after I discovered about the affair. And what I wrote is every piece of hope I'd ever held on to before had just been shredded, every spiritual, emotional, academic, spiritual, emotional, academic, physical and emotional part of me laid in a heap to be tossed out with the garbage. It never made it to the garbage, I recycled it instead. And in that, in that passage, those five things I heard and I know you've had some spiritual conversations and guests on your podcast.
Annah:
So I believe that, literally, it was my spirit guides coming through and they were highlighting those five things and they said that's it, that's what you're looking for. So I jotted that down and I then since went on to putting them into alphabetical order because it's easier to remember, right? So the academic facet. Ultimately, I then started asking questions about those five things. So the academic facet is our ability to learn doesn't mean how we learn, it's just we're all born with an ability to learn. The emotional facet is an ability to feel right.
Annah:
We all feel differently, but we still feel. The physical facet is two pronged. We're born into a physical body and a physical environment. The social facet is our ability to connect to the world around us, and for alliteration I say people, pets, plants and places. So we have some people who connect more with nature. Right, we have some people who connect more with people, pets, plants and places. So we have some people who connect more with nature. We have some people who connect more with people, some more with animals, some more with place, people who just really love to travel and experience new places, or some people who maybe just are really connected to their place, like it's their place, their their beginning and end place.
Annah:
So, and then the spiritual facet is the divine self within, and that's sound validation. There I didn't turn my phone off, so for somebody that spirit, that's what we call sound validation. But the the last, the spiritual facet, which isn't last, but in alphabetical order it is is the divine self within. So it's not about religion. Religion can be a support resource for our spiritual self.
Annah:
Now those facets, and this gets really complex, but just in a nutshell, those facets exist in a hierarchy for each one of us that's unique, and at the top of that hierarchy is the facet which literally drives our..
Annah:
It drives the boat, drives the human, it drives our day, it drives both our struggle and our success. And so what it does is it helps us identify okay, this is where my suffering is lying right now and it gives us an awareness, and what I say is awareness is more than half the battle as we work down that hierarchy, which, at the bottom, is no less important, but it's what I call out of sight, out of mind, and we have to be intentional about supporting that facet. And so that is that became my, my trajectory then, of moving even further forward into what healing means and the reason that I focus on healing. So my company is the five facets of healing, on healing. So my company is the five facets of healing. That's the name of my company, and what I discovered is in the grief slash, bereavement world, when we're in that phase of grief and suffering and you probably can identify with this to some degree following the death of your first child and I I am sorry for your loss and happy for your healing.
Kathy:
Thank you, and I love that expression. I love that - "I'm sorry for your loss and happy for your healing.
Annah:
I love those words. And it ties into your podcast name, which, As I L ive and Grieve, yes, and I think it's, it's important to realize, and you started out this by saying we're looking at some of the myths about grief. So when we're in the midst of grief, it feels forever, yes, it feels eternal, it feels like it's never going to end. We feel like we're alone. There are elements of that that are true. It's our reality in the moment, yes, and yet we are moving through our day and during that seven year period, I journaled daily and it was interesting, sometimes multiple times a day. It was interesting for me to look back at that when I was writing the memoir and see how, or even in the midst of all the chaos, just go, oh my gosh. This morning I felt like it was the end of the world. And here at the end of the day, some things have transitioned and now I'm feeling okay, I'm feeling hopeful. So that was a very much an eye opener for me.
Annah:
But when, when we're involved in the what I call the grief and bereavement industry, we see a lot of quotes that say your grief is forever, it just changes. Your grief will never go away. You just learn to live with it. And I personally, that has never resonated with me and the work and research that I've done research that I've done has revealed to me that you can 100%, fully heal from any adversity that you have. I can honestly say and it sounds like possibly you might be in this same group I no longer mourn my son's death, I 100% celebrate his life. He's responsible for this work that I do, life, he's responsible for this work that I do and truly there's not an aspect across those five facets academic, emotional, physical, social, spiritual where I grieve his death. And it sounds like you may feel the same way about your first child, definitely. So what I discovered is when we say how am I going to survive this? Have you ever said that?
Kathy:
Yes, oh yes.
Annah:
And I'm guessing our listeners has probably said that about different things in their life, not just the loss of a loved one. How am I going to survive this? What we're really saying is, how am I going to heal? Nice, that that's the question. How am I going to heal?
Annah:
So now, going into my focus on healing, and I'm really pioneering a whole new conversation about what loss, grief and healing are. First of all, they're autonomous. We tend to lump together loss and grief, or loss and healing are. First of all, they're autonomous. We tend to lump together loss and grief, or loss and healing, or grief and healing. But when we don't identify all three things, we actually deny one of them.
Annah:
So loss is an event where someone or something tangible or abstract goes missing from our life. Grief is our individual response to that loss event and healing is the resolution of the conflict that comprises our grief. Wow, when we can recognize those three things, separate them, now we have clarity, more clarity around what we're actually experiencing, which empowers us. More clarity around what we're actually experiencing, which empowers us. I say grief and loss are unempowering, but healing is empowering because we have a choice in where we put our attention. So healing happens in micro moments we tend to think going through the, going through any suffering or grief, conflict I use those words kind of synonymously. So healing we tend to think healing is a destination. Right, like I'll be happy when
Annah:
So every time you experience calm in the chaos, that's a healing moment. Every time you smile and you're feeling sad, that is a healing moment. Every time you feel peace in a problem, that is a healing moment.
Kathy:
Wow. Okay, first I want to ask you would you repeat the segment you did where you said loss is an event.
Annah:
Yep, so it's the autonomy. Yep, so it's the autonomy. So loss is an event where someone or something abstract or tangible goes missing from our life. Okay Then, grief is our individual response to the loss event, and healing is the resolution of the conflict that comprises our grief. Thank, you.
Kathy:
I love that expression, that concept, I love how it s eparates out those three components. And then what you just finished, before I asked you to go back, was that whole idea about healing. Happens in moments, so many times we just want it to be one and done. Just get me from point A to point B as quick as you possibly can. We don't stop to recognize our little victories, so to speak, along the way, absolutely conflict.
Kathy:
That whole concept is beautiful to me and really adds some clarity to what I call the grief journey really. And if you think of hiking in the woods, even you may stop for a moment to look at, I don't know, maybe a fern that just has such a lovely shape, and kind of correlate that to a moment of healing, that just a walk in the forest or in the park or along the beach and you find a shell, it provides that correlation to your journey in grief. So to our listeners, remember to recognize those moments as you go along. It proves one. I think that you're on the right path, right.
Annah:
I believe so.
Kathy:
Yeah, and do you ever get to your destination? Is there ever an end?
Annah:
So, oh gosh, I can't. I cannot think of the quote, but not too long ago I came across a quote about every ending is a new beginning, okay, so do you ever get to the end? I believe that we get to the end when this physical body dies, and for those who believe that our soul then transcends, there are some people who believe you know, we die here, we were born here, we die here and that's the end. And that's part of the spiritual facet is honoring each person, helping each person understand who they are and, as a community, for us to allow other people to have their own identity within their facets. So does it ever end? It's interesting.
Annah:
A number of years after I had done this work, had thought I had 100% healed from Gavin is my son's name from Gavin's death, I had an experience. There were some people close to me who every time I mentioned his name on a birthday or a holiday, they would change the subject and I, every year I would experience conflict around that because I felt like they were denying him. And years after I thought that I'd healed and was doing this work and talking about it around the country and had presented it at North Carolina social work conferences. I that happened and I felt myself like struggling, they're denying my son, and in that moment I went oh my gosh, oh my gosh. So that is.
Annah:
I realized that that's their way of handling their grief, that's their way of dealing with it. Has absolutely nothing to do with me. And my social facet is at the top of my hierarchy and remember, the facet at the top drives both the suffering and the success. So that in that moment was it was a combination of the social and the spiritual, but emotional.
Annah:
But at any rate, I was like, oh my gosh, it has nothing to do with me, it's about how they process their grief and I want to be able to honor that and who they are. So I have not. And it's funny you asked that question because I've thought about this recently it's like, okay, as I continue to have more experiences in life, maybe there will be another piece of my healing then that will reveal itself. We don't know what we don't know and we can't expect what we can expect until we've experienced it. So when that time comes, if that time comes, what I believe is that I have everything that I need to heal that conflict, to process it, to understand it and yeah, so interesting.
Kathy:
Yeah, I'm very blessed in one way that the most recent loss I've had is the loss of my husband, and it was just this past Saturday. It was six years since he's been gone. He was a Vietnam vet and was a member of a local group, a very, very large group, and they meet, of course, once a month and have events and everything.
Kathy:
So I always laugh and say anytime I need hugs for any reason, I go to one of their meetings or events, because I walk in and immediately not only am I surrounded by friends and get hugs and everything, but every single one of them, without exception, mentions Tom's name, and it's just always a way to kind of bring it all back and celebrate the person that Tom was. He was a chaplain for their group for many, many years, so I'm very fortunate in that way. I've really not had people change the subject on me or anything like that, yet I understand how that does happen. A question came up as you were talking. You mentioned for you, social is at the top of your hierarchy.
Kathy:
How do you find out what your hierarchy is?
Annah:
So that's a process. Usually I my coaching clients that I have. We go through the process of understanding. So I do start with loss events, not to focus on the loss event but to help people then gain insight into their process, like, what is your process, which is different from mine? And then, as we go through that process, what starts to reveal itself is the facet that is at the high, towards the top. So it gives people awareness, towards the top, so it gives people awareness.
Annah:
I am working on creating a questionnaire that will sort of help people to to sort of put their facets into their own hierarchy. The two questions, though, that I ask people is number one is when you are feeling successful and you're thriving and you feel like lit up, which of those facets is there? And when you are struggling, when you're in conflict, which of those facets is there? And when you find a facet that were both of them are there in the midst, right, like their primary focus, chances are that's the facet that is at the top of your hierarchy, and then you just work your way down and the facet that's at the bottom is the one that you just you don't think of. Now it gets a little tricky because so many people would think that my spiritual facet because I talk about the soul and I talk about spiritual aspects and there's a spiritual related, holistic branch to the work that I do now they would think that my spiritual facet is near the top, if not at the top. However, my spiritual facet is near the top, if not at the top. However, my spiritual facet is actually next to the last, on the bottom.
Annah:
Oh, so remember, I said what's at the bottom we have to intentionally support. So the way that I came into this holistic work because I was always academic minded this coaching program was 20 years in the making Okay, the universe kind of said Okay, they put me in a situation where I experienced energy healing and it was so. I had such a profound experience, it was undeniable and it needed to be that way for me to believe it. So the, as I call it, the universe gave me these tools for multiple reasons, but one is it's a very important part of the work that I do for people who are open to the holistic aspects and the spiritual aspects and discussions, so that all the work that I do is supporting that facet. So if you think of what's at the bottom of your hierarchy is the foundation of your house right? How many of us go and look at the bricks and mortar, or whatever the foundation of our house is made of.
Annah:
And yet if we don't take care of it and this is true for any facet but if we don't take care of what's at the bottom, that's the foundation of our house, then everything else above it crumbles when we end up in a situation. So I'll just give an example. My physical facet is at the bottom of my hierarchy, so I had asked this question for years hierarchy. So I had asked this question for years, like, okay, so what is the purpose of the facet of the bottom of the hierarchy? And then I got sick. I have a very high resilience, high constitution, and I was dealing with a former job that was extremely stressful, a lot of toxicity, and I was not minding my diet, I wasn't paying attention to the stress in my body, I was just like I just got to push through and then I got sick. So, for people who know anything about diabetes, I went to the doctor because what I didn't know? I was having panic attacks and my and it was stress induced, a stress induced diabetic episode my glucose fasting glucose was 299.
Kathy:
Oh dear.
Annah:
And my A1C was 9.7.
Kathy:
Yes, yes.
Annah:
And so they took me out of work and within three months off medication, my numbers were normal. And so that's when it became clear to me. I was like, okay, I knew my physical facet was at the bottom of my hierarchy, it has the least impact and influence on my daily life. But I was like, okay, there's that answer. I have to be intentional about making it a daily habit. I could sit and do brain work all day long and not think about eating. Yes, yes, yeah. So I'm sure many people can relate. So that's how we come back to. So the caveat yes, how do we know? Those are some of the caveats which then I help people, one-on-one sort of help vary that out. But that's a really good starting place. Those two questions you know what is driving your suffering and success? Which facet is sort of always in the mix? Yes, and then also at the at the other spectrum is which facet really has the least impact on your day-to-day decisions?
Kathy:
Yeah, very interesting. Yeah, I'd really have to think about the foundation for my hierarchy, but before you got too far in your explanation of that and you started asking those two questions, I thought academics got to be at the top of my hierarchy, because I always turn to learning something and that's one reason why I've thoroughly enjoyed the podcast and connecting with all of my guests is that I find out about so many things that I really didn't know about, maybe had never even heard about, and it's in researching those and trying some of those actually that have made huge changes for me and I have grown so and healed so because of those experiences. It prompts another question for me how important is it that you have an open mind?
Annah:
So that's a loaded question, kathy, because an open mind is subjective. I personally believe that the more our mind is open, the more curious we are about things. Open, the more curious we are about things, the more willing we are to hear something that might not immediately resonate with us. The more of those traits that we can embody, the greater the chance is that our healing will be more complete. And yet, sometimes it takes years for us to realize. So again, awareness is more than half the body, half half of the success. Okay, when we like that, that number of years where I went through not realizing that I was struggling with my son being what I felt denied, Right, right. So, yeah, I think it's important.
Annah:
And yet that's different for each one of us, and sometimes people will become more curious as their life changes. Sometimes we have to reach certain points in our own evolution before we can step out into that vulnerability of being open minded. There's usually when people are what we would quote, describe as close minded. You know, maybe they feel extremely vulnerable. There's a fear base, maybe it goes against the grain of everything that they've been taught, and so there's fear about disappointing people. There's so many levels to that, but the. I do think that the when we can reach that point of what I call being more curious and you use the word awe in the beginning of our conversation, and one thing that I do say is I hope to always remain in awe of the world around me, and a level of that awe is curiosity right so yeah, okay, and one more question.
Kathy:
And then I I fear that we have to wind down. But my one other question is when you've experienced a loss and you're grieving, so you have the event, you have the response and you know in your heart that you're grieving. So you have the event, you have the response and you know in your heart that you don't want to go on like that, that you want to heal. Is healing, that knowledge that you want healing, can that be used as your motivation to heal, to move toward healing? We often think so many people get stuck, will they remain stuck I guess I'm asking until they acknowledge that they want to heal? Does that make sense?
Annah:
It does, and I'm going to repeat the question. So when someone recognizes that they want to heal, is that motivation so that they can move forward? And I actually heard two questions. If they don't recognize that, will they remain stuck? Yes, so there's two questions.
Kathy:
I guess, yeah, I tend to do that Right?
Annah:
No, that's okay. So do I. I'm the queen of questions and one of the things I've had to realize is when I'm asking multiple questions and again, just like the autonomy of loss, grief and healing, I've had to learn how to like, begin to separate it out by asking more questions. Begin to separate it out by asking more questions. So is somebody saying I want to heal? Is that motivation? Absolutely, that motivation is going to look different for each person. Remember, hours after my son died, I had the distinct thought that I didn't want to spend a lifetime mourning him, right? In other words, I didn't have the words to articulate, but I wanted to heal. I wanted something different than eternal grief. So it's going to look different for each person. The words that they use that are I want healing. So that's going to be different. And again, interpreting somebody's language and reframing it is one of my superpowers, okay, and then will they be stuck until they recognize that they want healing?
Annah:
I believe again going back to healing happens in micro moments. That when people can recognize the micro moment, all of a sudden they're out in nature, to use your example, and they hear the bird song, yes, or they notice, like right now I'm seeing there's a cedar tree outside of my office window that's blowing in the breeze, that brings me peace. So the when we can recognize those, if then we can associate them with, wow, this is a healing moment. We're not stuck. And even before that, when we can appreciate some of those simple moments, even if we don't acknowledge them as a healing moment, we are moving. We're moving on that path. We might not have the words yet to identify it. So and again, being stuck is different for different people.
Annah:
As I said, going back to those journal entries, there were days that I would wake up happy and by by the nighttime I was like this is eternal. This sucks a few explicatives written in my, in my journal, or vice versa. So sometimes we're stuck for an hour, sometimes we're stuck for days, and it's going to look different for each one of us. And I think you said at the beginning of this, there's no one size fits all. That's right, and so I just really invite everyone that I encounter to start to just recognize those small wins. It's like, wow, I smiled and again we could get onto more topics. Right, because then people in grief feel guilty for that right.
Annah:
For feeling happy. That's a whole nother branch, maybe for a whole nother episode. Yes, so yeah, just one of the things that I'm saying right now is for just give yourself grace. Yes, so yeah, just what. One of the things that I'm saying right now is for just give yourself grace. Yes, whatever, when you're feeling like you're struggling or you're not moving, give yourself grace. Just give yourself grace and recognize okay, this is and it's a line that I wrote in the memoir, which is I recognize. Okay, this is how I'm feeling right now, but this is not going to be the way I'm going to feel forever, and that's the hope piece. I hope that answers your questions.
Kathy:
It did. Thank you it did. It put it into perspective for me and, I think too for our listeners. Okay, so this is the time in my podcast episode that I actually turned the microphone over to my guest, so the floor is all yours, Annah.
Annah:
Thank you for joining us. I am sorry for your losses and I'm happy for your healing, whatever your experiences are. If you'd like to know more about me and the lost, grief and healing journeys, you can find me at it's all spelled out thefivefacetsofhealingcom. Annah Elizabeth Heals on Instagram. You can through my website. You can subscribe to our newsletters this monthly newsletters, where I include all sorts of resources, articles that I've written. That's all free. If you join, you will get a free gift of what I call power mantras. You can learn a little bit about that there. It's food for the soul and and inspiration. So, and then there you can also find all the events that I do.
Annah:
A lot of what I do is I work globally, even though I'm based out of Raleigh, North Carolina, right now, so much of what I do is virtual. So you can find sessions for energy healing, one-on-one coaching. I do have a free consultation if anybody is interested in seeing if I'm a good fit for you, and then I do offer group energy healing events once a month. That is a very affordable fee, but then I have twice a month, on Wednesdays, I have a free support event called Hump Day Healing, and you can find that in the events section of my webpage, and it's just really. It's a safe environment for people to come and share both any struggles that they're facing and any successes that they've had, and I think it's important to recognize both of those when you're grieving. So I invite you to join me there and I look forward to meeting all of you and helping you any way I can.
Kathy:
Thank you again, Annah, for being with me today. You have shared a compelling story and you have offered us much more insight into healing from our losses. I so appreciate it.
Kathy:
To my listeners out there again. Thank you for listening. A quick reminder again if you're on Facebook, pop over to the group, to the page As I Live and Grieve, and join. What we are building is an interactive community to be able to remember those we lost, to commiserate when necessary and certainly to support and also increase awareness about grief. So join us there today.
Kathy:
For me, one of the important things I'm taking away is that it seems to me that when we've experienced the loss and we're grieving, we always worry about being stuck and staying stuck and not being able to get out of it. Yet it seems to me that there may be little moments happening all the time. We are "quote unquote stuck. We may be healing without even realizing it. So try to recognize tiny little things. Maybe you got yourself out of bed so quickly, jumped in the shower, made something or grabbed a cup of coffee and decided to go to the grocery store for the very first time. That's huge. That's huge. So celebrate those little victories and remember. I think so much of this is going to happen to us organically. It just takes a while sometimes for our minds to catch up. Our hearts are moving along, but our minds need to catch up and remember also to take care of yourselves. That's so important and, above all, please consider coming back again and catching another episode next time, as we all continue to live and grieve.
Stephanie:
Thank you so much for listening with us today. Do you have a topic that you'd like us to cover or do you have a question from one of our episodes? Please email us at info at asiliveandgrievecom and let us know. We hope you will find a moment to leave a review, send an email and share with others. Join us next time as we continue to live and grieve together.
