Ever wondered how to picture a character with a made-up name in your head? Join us as we tackle this challenge and more in this episode filled with book recommendations, reviews and personal tales. We delve into the intense and emotional narrative of 'Those Girls' by Chevy Stevens, closely followed by the chilling 'Maeve Fly' by CJ Leed, which despite its violent content takes you on an emotional roller coaster. As we explore these gripping stories, we share our thoughts on their themes and writing styles.
We then turn our focus to the Duggar family, as we discuss their reality show '19 Kids and Counting,' and Jill Duggar’s memoir 'Counting the Cost.' We unravel the truth behind the family’s belief system and Jill's brave decision to forge a different path. Balancing things out, we also dive into the 'Themis Files' trilogy, sharing our insights about the books' unique narrative style. Shifting gears, we express our views on 'Whalefall' by Daniel Crouse, appreciating its quality of writing but discussing our difficulty in connecting with the story due to its focus on the protagonist's emotional journey.
Finally, we reveal our Halloween preparations, discussing spooky treats and story time events for our book club. We also unveil our plans for an Etsy shop, built on my newfound love for crocheting. Be sure to follow us on our social media platforms to stay updated on our latest crafts. Join us for this thrilling episode filled with captivating discussions, personal anecdotes, and exciting plans.
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Ever wondered how to picture a character with a made-up name in your head? Join us as we tackle this challenge and more in this episode filled with book recommendations, reviews and personal tales. We delve into the intense and emotional narrative of 'Those Girls' by Chevy Stevens, closely followed by the chilling 'Maeve Fly' by CJ Leed, which despite its violent content takes you on an emotional roller coaster. As we explore these gripping stories, we share our thoughts on their themes and writing styles.
We then turn our focus to the Duggar family, as we discuss their reality show '19 Kids and Counting,' and Jill Duggar’s memoir 'Counting the Cost.' We unravel the truth behind the family’s belief system and Jill's brave decision to forge a different path. Balancing things out, we also dive into the 'Themis Files' trilogy, sharing our insights about the books' unique narrative style. Shifting gears, we express our views on 'Whalefall' by Daniel Crouse, appreciating its quality of writing but discussing our difficulty in connecting with the story due to its focus on the protagonist's emotional journey.
Finally, we reveal our Halloween preparations, discussing spooky treats and story time events for our book club. We also unveil our plans for an Etsy shop, built on my newfound love for crocheting. Be sure to follow us on our social media platforms to stay updated on our latest crafts. Join us for this thrilling episode filled with captivating discussions, personal anecdotes, and exciting plans.
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Shanna:
Hello everyone and welcome to In Her Good Books. I'm Shanna and I'm Jen, and this is a podcast where two friends talk about Books. That wasn't my line, was it?
Jen:
It wasn't, but that's okay, you're such a hog.
Shanna:
I mean, I just was so excited that I remembered it. Yeah, this is maybe one of the first times I didn't yell. It's a podcast, so it's a podcast. We're back because last time we recorded and it didn't work, didn't, but how dare we miss basically all of Spooky Season? I?
Jen:
know, and this, even this recording is kind of cutting it close because it's been really busy, it's been really hard to get together. Yeah, this is basically the Halloween episode and I weirdly didn't read enough Halloween books.
Shanna:
I did. We can't remember what we talked about last time, so now it feels like everything is repeating or we've forgotten it.
Jen:
We're barely holding it together in our personal lives, I think. I think the fact that we've gotten here at all is good yeah, We've got like what 45 minutes before my kids come home. Yes, faster, faster. That's what I say to my kids when I want them to go faster. How does it work?
Shanna:
Actually pretty good. That's incredible, I know.
Jen:
So what have you been reading? So I read a book called those Girls by Chevy Stevens. Chevy Stevens lives on Vancouver Island, so she's a BC author, which I love. The book is set in BC, so we get to be in towns within our province, which I love, and it's about these three sisters who live with their dad, and he is terrible. He's an alcoholic, he's abusive, he neglects them, he's off, working for weeks at a time. They're starving and taking care of themselves, and then something really bad happens and they're forced to flee. So they go on the run and then their truck breaks down in Cache Creek and then something even worse happens to them.
Shanna:
They're having a bad time. Bad time Is this a?
Jen:
spooky book. It's like a thriller. So then it jumps to 18 years later. Now one of the sisters has gone missing and they think that she's gone back to Cache Creek to kind of face the things that happened to them there and they have to go find her. It was really really good. Oh good, it was really good.
Shanna:
I had a feeling you were going to say it was not thrilling at all.
Jen:
No, it was pretty. It was like it was kind of Karen Slaughter-esque, okay, which and I really like Karen Slaughter books. So, yeah, I really liked it. I love books set in BC. Is it new? No, I don't think so. I think it, oh, 2015. Okay, so I kept thinking the whole time because they're going in depth about Cache Creek and what it looks like and how the people are and stuff, and I'm like man, if I lived in Cache Creek, I'd be so mad. I mean, I've been to Cache Creek, probably true.
Shanna:
This woman from Quinnell yeah.
Jen:
I maybe think, maybe I should set my book in Quinnell, just really piss them off.
Shanna:
Yeah, oh, you're from Quinnell. We've probably got like at least one listener.
Jen:
I love Quinnell, oh yeah, I don't, I'm not going to lie.
Shanna:
I'm just kidding, I've never been there once.
Jen:
Yeah, it was really brutal. Like Karen Slaughter, the story was pretty good. Yeah, no, it was really good. What have you read?
Shanna:
What have I read? Well, I'll start with my spookiest book. I read Maeve Fly by CJ Leed.
Jen:
That one has been on my list. Yes, the cover is really cool.
Shanna:
The cover is what drew me to it. I was in the indigo here and it was front facing. I was like ooh yeah. So I took a picture of it and then I got it on audio. Have you read American Psycho? No, well, do that. And then pick up Maeve Fly, okay, and then you can read American Psycho again, except it's a lady, oh, okay. Yes, in American Psycho, the book is brutal. It is horrendously brutal. You would love it. You never really know if the crimes are happening or if they're in this guy's head. And the way I'm talking about American Psycho right now, not Maeve Fly they have these chapters where he's talking about just bad 90s music. That might be the wrong era, but whatever, it'll just be a band. And then he goes weirdly in depth about it. And then in this one she's doing the exact same thing, except it's Halloween music.
Jen:
Oh, I love that.
Shanna:
Yes, and she's obsessed with Halloween, so it's her season. The book is about Maeve and she works at a Disneyland place as an ice queen. So she's Elsa and she's a princess during the day and she is a killer during the night. Yeah, it's brutal. There are some scenes that are oh goodness, oh goodness, to the point where you kind of tense up because just it's super, super brutal. And what's weird is, despite this main character being obviously either twisted in her brain or definitely a bad guy, the ending kind of gutted me. So you'll have to read it to know, because I don't want to spoil it, because I do think that you will like it. But yeah, anybody who has read it probably thinks I am just fully demented for feeling that way. But you know when you're kind of rooting for the baddie Despite the fact that they are clearly very, very bad. Yeah, it was good. It was American Psycho, though the parallels are unmistakable.
Jen:
Which was obviously intentional. Yes, do you think maybe too close?
Shanna:
Well, about halfway to maybe 60% of the way through the book, they finally they referenced it, they referenced it properly, and I mean, the only way that you wouldn't know is if you have never read American Psycho.
Jen:
Yeah, I would never have picked up on that.
Shanna:
It is very clear. It is definitely intentional. I think you'd like it. You should read it. I'm going to Good. It's super. Halloweeny too, because it's got all the Halloween music, it's got everything. Yeah, okay.
Jen:
It's obvi-sold. The next thing I read was the Angel Maker by Alex North. Alex North wrote the Whisper man. Ah, that's what it's called, right.
Shanna:
So let's play this game. Is it a book? With a hand on it? Yes, yes.
Jen:
Yes, the Whisper man. So I got confused, because he has the Whisper man, which has a hand on it, and then he has the Shadows, which has a hand upside down.
Shanna:
Yes, I got to be confused with that one book with the hand that has candles on the fingers. Yes, that's not by Alex North.
Jen:
Nope, but that is another book For sure. So I really liked the Whisper man. The Shadows was okay.
Jen:
This one was about this woman. When she was a teenager Her brother was attacked and he survived, but since then he's been just having a hard time Like he's homeless. He's an addict. She ends up cutting all ties with him. And then now she's grown up, she has a daughter and a husband and her brother goes missing and at first she doesn't really care because she already didn't have a relationship with him.
Jen:
He's always missing. He's always gone off on a bender or whatever. But their mom is like no, he's changed, he's better. You can't trust a mom. No, and that's what she said. She's like, yeah, whatever. So you always say that's what he always says. But she starts looking for him anyways and it's kind of a complicated story because we've got this storyline and then there's just like there's too many characters in this book. There's this other old guy who was found dead in his mansion and her brother his name is Chris was kind of seen on the video cameras before this guy died, and the way the guy died was kind of seemed like he was expecting to be killed. He had taken a whole bunch of drugs beforehand, but it wasn't the drugs that killed him. He was stabbed a bunch of times. He had this big collection of all these things from this one killer from like back in the 30s.
Shanna:
So there was this killer, who was the old man? No, no, so I shouldn't guess the ending.
Jen:
Okay, it's really, really complicated. It's a complicated story that has an old man and another old man and another old man and missing kids, and how they all overlap with each other and they all come together. And during the book it was really confusing for me, and when that happens I never know if it's because the story is actually confusing or I'm just not in the right mindset for it. But I kept not knowing who the old guy that we were with was, and you do find out at the end how everything comes together. But there's also like kind of like a weird time thing in it. It's not time travel but the killer that the guy the one guy is collecting artifacts from he believes that he could tell the future and there's like a myth that if you read his journal that you will be able to tell the future.
Jen:
see the future somehow.
Shanna:
Is it like magical realism, like?
Jen:
light, light. Okay, it was really good. I did really like it. I did like how at the end it all kind of came together and I was confused for about 45% of the book, which is kind of a long time you read his other one, right, yeah, and which one do you like better? I think I liked the shadow man. Now I'm confused. It's got a handle on it.
Shanna:
Shadow fingers, the whisper man the whisper man. Oh my god, now I'm really confused.
Jen:
Yeah, I think I like the whisper man better, but I did really like this one. It felt like the mood that he paints is pretty consistent through his books and I like how that feels. What else have you got?
Shanna:
What did you read? Oh, I'm just trying to think Did I read anything else that was spooky enough to be spooky season? I don't remember which ones I talked about last time, so I'm just going to talk about a new one. It's not spooky, but it was awesome. It's sci-fi. Are you surprised? Not at all. No, so I read Sleeping Giants by Sylvain Nouvelle, who's Canadian, and it was so good, I loved it so much.
Shanna:
It is done as like an oral history, sort of a la World War Z, if you've read that one. That is a zombie book. It's told from just excerpts of a reporter who's going around after the zombie war and he's collecting stories. So you get to learn about the whole thing via these stories. And it's so good, it's so well done, highly recommend. This one is the same. It's done through like government files and recordings. I listened to it on audio, so it was fully cast, which was fantastic, like with good, proper voice actors.
Shanna:
And it is about this little girl. She's, I think, 10 or 11 and she's riding her bike and she falls into a hole and in this hole there's a giant robot hand that's just absolutely massive and she goes. That's fine. But later in her life she becomes a scientist and they rediscover this hand and they start finding more of these giant body parts that are clearly not From earth because, like the metal composition and a whole bunch of stuff about them is just clearly not our technology and with, like, carbon dating and everything, they're way, way, way who old on top of that to be as technologically fast as they are. So they start putting together this giant ass robot and all of your characters get together and You've got the pilots, the people who can run this thing, you've got government agencies who are doing stuff and, yeah, it was just, it was very sci-fi and I loved it.
Shanna:
I loved it so much that I picked up the second one immediately, and by immediately I mean I had to be depressed for a day while I waited for it to come into the library. I Did good, though I read mayfly in between. I got really spooked. And then my next one came and it was called Something gods, waking gods yeah, waking gods as just number two in the series. It was not, I don't think, as good as the first one, but it is set Like ten ish years later and you've got your same cast of characters, but now we have our robot. We've got our people who run the robot and now we're getting More robots. And you know, with any story, just throw more robots in it. Give me some aliens, I'm happy. I'm a simple woman, yeah. So that one was really good.
Shanna:
My favorite part was like, you know, when you're reading a book and it's Vancouver or it's quinelle, and you're like, hey, I know that place, mm-hmm. So for me I there's one chapter and it's a server logs from World of Warcraft and it's from the age-win server which, not to brag, I got two characters on used to main on it, don't anymore, transferred a long time ago. I'm on kelf's ad now, if anybody's, but Anyways, so I just I did a little dance because for me it was like somebody mentioning my hometown.
Jen:
Yeah, so that was fun.
Shanna:
That's fun. Yeah, it was really good, and so any of you sci-fi nerds out there Check it out. Number three so far is not great, but I will stick it out and report back. So Sounds good. The trilogy is called the Themis files. How would you?
Jen:
what kind of sci-fi are you in reading? I've been reading the opposite of sci-fi, oh.
I've been reading a little bit of nonfiction, oh. So I started out with Counting the cost by Jill Duggar. Oh, you do love those Duggar. Oh, it's so weird. So yeah, I was trying to just stick to kind of more spooky books for October, but then it came in at the library and I was like sure. And then I was like ah, gotta read it, cuz it's like a huge waitlist and I couldn't give it back.
Jen:
Yeah so yeah, it's Jill Duggar's memoir, and Everybody knows who the Duggars are, which is a lie, because I barely knew when you told me, like two months ago, Well, you know.
Shanna:
I do now.
Jen:
so she's one of the kids from the Duggar family who was on the TLC show 19 kids and counting and I kind of went down this rabbit hole because someone recommended that I watch shiny happy people the docu series about them and I did and it was Fricked up. Yeah, I watched the show and it was on TLC and I was like those people are different than me and that's okay, it's not okay.
Jen:
No they sound not okay. No, they're very much not okay and there's quite a lot of abuse. I recommend watching the series. It was really, really infuriating and interesting and Good. I didn't know any of it, I had no idea. So, yeah, she's wrote this book to Tell her side of everything, because she's kind of one of the ones that, have you know, followed the unrighteous path away from the Lord. Oh, which pretty much means she wears pants now and she has a nose ring.
Jen:
Well, good luck getting into heaven, jill, she also wanted to be paid for all the work she does on the show. Unreasonable? No, it's completely reasonable. Oh yeah, it's just so gross.
Jen:
Yeah, the book is really good. I mean, if you watch the show, you kind of get most of this information because she talks on the show, but you get a little bit more in the book and she narrates it and I was enthralled the whole time. Yeah, once you get to know a little bit more about their cult which is definitely what it is yeah.
Shanna:
Which seems strange that they just had a show. Yeah, like, did the people at the time realize they were documenting a cult?
Jen:
Probably honestly because they just cared about ratings. So as long as people were watching. They were like sweet and also gross.
Jen:
Yeah, the book goes a lot more into detail about her relationship with the network and their legal battles with the family and with TLC. They also sued a whole bunch of people actually, because Jill and some of her other sisters were sexually abused by their oldest brother, and then the documents from when they reported the abuse to the police. Everything that they told them was released to the press and published. So she was like, everything that I said that was supposed to be confidential and sealed, because I'm a minor especially was just released.
Shanna:
Good, I hope they sued and won like crazy. They didn't win.
Jen:
What.
Shanna:
No.
Jen:
No, because Josh, the older brother, was also tried for child pornography and that was going on at the same time and it was like the same judge and the same jury or something. It was really weird and they were like yeah, no, your case isn't as important as this one.
Shanna:
That's terrible.
Jen:
And they just kind of like threw it out. He went to jail for.
Shanna:
Ever Not like 15 years or something.
Jen:
But yeah, they didn't get anything for that that sucks.
Shanna:
Yeah, that is a scary story, yeah.
Jen:
This is a Halloween cult story.
Shanna:
So I heard Whalefall and that one's pretty yucky, yeah, yeah. So Whalefall is by Daniel Crouse and it is about a 17 year old boy whose father dies and he dies in the water and he was a diver. And the boy goes to find his dad's bones but instead of finding his bones he finds the mouth of a whale and he gets eaten by this whale and then he survives inside of this whale and he's got to get out of the whale. Now, anybody who went to Sunday school knows about Jonah in the whale and when you picture that or when you ever had to do any of those coloring things, it's pretty spacious in there, well lit. He's got a box to sit on. No, no, this author really puts you inside of a whale. The air he's got to be using his equipment, his body is being crushed and broken and it is quite visceral.
Shanna:
The problem with the book was that it bore the absolute hell out of me. It's not that it was boring. The in the whale part was good and the writing was excellent. There were parts that gave me chills, like it was very, very well written. I Don't care about you and your dad and how sad you are and what a bad dad he was and boohoo, my dad is dead and oh, I'm 17 and angsty and ooh, I've got sisters and there's I don't know. Also, one of the daughters like the sister's name was Nan, so she was a grandma in my head most of the time. Yeah, but that's not the author's fault, that's my stupid brain's fault. But yeah, so don't listen to me. I'm sure it's actually quite good, but yeah, I am not in a place right now where I care about the emotional journey of reconciling with your father. I want space robots, yeah.
Jen:
Sounds like I would like that as a short story. It's quite long Because if most of this book is happening inside a whale, oh, that's a lot of not plot and a lot of just the inner workings of a teenage boy.
Shanna:
Unfortunately, a lot of it is remembering back when his dad was alive and explaining to you why their? Relationship was so difficult. His dad really loved diving the kind of dad who decided that you also love this as much as I do, regardless of what you are actually like as a person.
Jen:
I am quite interested in not that I would want to go diving myself, but I've been interested in other people diving and doing the deep dives like free diving.
Shanna:
When I worked pools and maintenance, I got to have a breathing apparatus thing to go down and do some work under the water, which is pretty cool.
Jen:
That is cool, but people that dive in the ocean down to caves and stuff.
Shanna:
It's like spelongers, yeah.
Jen:
Freaky.
Shanna:
It's kind of like people who free form rock climb or whatever. Absolutely not. What a way to die. I know what you mean, but yeah, this book it had, like you, go inside of a whale. It's quite yucky.
Jen:
I'd like to read just that part. Yeah, too bad, too bad.
Shanna:
I don't know, not for me. You read anything else Spooky?
Jen:
Nope, I read another nonfiction, because what happens is if I read a nonfiction book that I feel like I'm in that mood, yeah, and then I usually read them kind of back to back, and I was kind of in a little bit of a funk. So I decided to read You're Gonna Die Alone and Other Excellent News by DeVry Bryn Donaldson. Nice, yeah, so this one came on my radar because I was listening to the Papaya podcast, which is a podcast I really really like, some, hosted by Sarah Nicole, who is a Canadian kind of Instagram influencer who talks mostly about body positivity but has really kind of just now. She just does everything Now she's just cool and living her life and we're watching, yeah, from our phones. So, yeah, the Instagram is the birds papaya.
Jen:
Anyway, she had DeVry on the podcast to talk about friends who ghost you. Devry had two really good friends who were her lifelong best friends and she thought these were going to be my people forever and ever, and then now they're not, and so, yeah, she was on the show to kind of talk about that and to talk about this book You're gonna die alone, because she talks about it in there as well, and the podcast was really really good and I thought she was really funny and I really like what she had to say. So I definitely wanted to read her book. So I did and it was really good. I liked the podcast episode better. Okay, the book. I think she's younger than me. Most people are. Yes, I'm pretty sure she's like I think early 30s kind of thing, and I'm like I always want to say late 30s, but I'm only 36. Remember, December.
Jen:
Remember that I'm only 30. I've started saying I'm 39.
Shanna:
You're not as old as you feel. Why am I doing this to myself?
Jen:
And it's the kind of book where it's like you know when someone says what would you tell your younger self if you could? It's like that, except for I've already now I know all these things already because I'm older and I know it already. So I think it would be a really, really good book for women like late teens and in the 20s, but for me I didn't get a whole lot out of it. She was still really good. I still really like her personality, but it didn't punch you the way you needed to get punched. No, it didn't punch me.
Jen:
Shock's a lot about woman power and don't let people tear you down and don't let people tell you who to be. And just be yourself and proud and happy and whatever Good stuff. I already know this. I am still working on it, but I do know it and it was a little bit like she was also saying I used to be a bad person and now I'm not, and I'm sorry about that. She used to be a religious kind of extremist a bit and she used to judge people a lot. She used to think that anyone who was in Christian was going to hell and she didn't believe in gay rights and she didn't believe in.
Shanna:
Oh, so she was an authentically bad person.
Jen:
Yeah, gotcha, okay. So she's like these are the things I used to think and this is the person I used to be, and I'm sorry about that. So it's like she's telling everybody in the world like, yeah, you know, I sucked, now I'm better and you can too. Yeah, so I'm like that's good. But it kind of felt a little bit like this is the book that she needed to write to like feel better about herself, and maybe some of it should have just been in her journal.
Shanna:
I feel like writing and publishing a book is a very extreme form of therapy.
Jen:
Yeah, this felt like a therapy book a little bit. And then it was also like and this is who I am now and I'm not sorry about this and it's good. She's like I'm loud and I'm fat and I'm here and I'm not sorry and I'm not going to change myself and I'm like good, but also it just it felt like it was more for herself than other people.
Shanna:
Yeah, Not for you, yeah.
Jen:
And I still liked it, but I think, yeah, it just wasn't. I'm not the demographic Good.
Shanna:
That saves me reading a book. Yeah, thank you, because, yeah, I also really liked John the podcast. You sent that one to me, yeah, and it was really, really good.
Jen:
So, yeah, I do recommend it, not for people in their mid to late 30s, so, and above, early to mid 20s.
Shanna:
Yeah.
Jen:
Unless, I mean, maybe there's people who are my age and older who could use this information. But I'm so smart I already know all these things. I know not to be racist in a bigot.
Shanna:
Not to brag, I'm reading something right now and it's set in not Earth, but not like an alien book. But the names are not average and they're not even like they're not English, they're not Spanish, they're not like a type of name, it's like they're an entirely new made up name and I'm having a very hard time picturing my characters because I can't remember the names, because they have no sticking power in my brain.
Jen:
That would be incredibly annoying. Yeah, yeah. So it's looking to see if I was reading anything, but I think I'm just not done. The you're gonna die alone book, apparently. Yeah.
Shanna:
I'm still reading it.
Jen:
I know how it's gonna end. Yeah, it's okay.
Shanna:
Should we talk about some of our other stuff that's been so cool lately? I don't know. What have we done? What have we done? Oh my God, jen, haven't you been here? We had book club and it was delicious. Yes, we did have our spooky Halloween book club and it was so good. Yes, why don't you tell everybody about your chili? I don't know. Oh, come on guys, she carves mushrooms to look like skulls.
Jen:
It's amazing and little carrot pumpkins, but I did it last year too and it takes so long it does.
Shanna:
I believe it.
Jen:
I'm always like why am I doing this?
Shanna:
Trust me, as I was putting peanut butter, oh, I forgot to put teeth in my apples last night. Oh, oh well, oh well. Yeah, I was cutting apple slices and filling them with peanut butter and putting little monster eyes on them, and then usually I stuff little chocolate chip like white chocolate chips for your little monster teeth, but I forgot. But yeah, it takes so long to make spooky food.
Jen:
It does. It's the longest book club prep of the year.
Shanna:
Yes, but it's also got some of the best book club payoff of the year.
Jen:
Yes, we had a very good party, lots of good food. We made little presents for everybody.
Shanna:
Yeah, it was really good. So are book clubs better than your book club? Obviously, unless your book club did that too, in which case tell us about it. Yeah, because we can always take more ideas. Last night I hosted a thing, it was a story time, which was really cool. People are nerdy if they're listening to this.
Jen:
Yeah, why don't we take any pictures?
Shanna:
or anything. I thought about that after too I was like what is wrong with me? Oh, my goodness, the house looked so good. Janelle came over and decorated all day and I made so much food.
Jen:
Yeah, there was so much food and some spooky food and black lemonade and there was candles and pictures of old people.
Shanna:
I don't know, we really suck. We suck so bad. So much work and prep went into this. Our friend Corey, he did all the preparation to tell the story of the I'm Feel Poltergeist and so he told us a story for like around an hour. Oh, I hit a speaker in the roof so that I could have spooky, scary things happen and then the ghost that actually lives here showed up and did some spooky stuff, which was fun. It really did, so that was cool. Very good timing. My ghosts are hilarious yeah.
Jen:
And we all told all of our ghost stories. Yeah, it was good, it was so good.
Shanna:
I would show you. But yeah, we absolutely suck.
Jen:
Yeah, not one single picture taken.
Shanna:
Oh, carolyn, carolyn, we blame you. Yeah, this is your fault. Everybody wore pajamas. Yeah, it was so good. Then we have a Halloween party coming up this weekend. Yes, we do. I need to finish my costume. Get on that I'm going to Mine is crazy easy this year. Other people's costumes are going to be harder for me than my costume, which is kind of sick. But yeah, it's been spooky. We have been spooky in our lives. We haven't been telling you guys about it.
Jen:
I know we made a very specific point to not let the season go by and not celebrate it, because things get really busy. And then suddenly it's November and we're like, ah yeah, we didn't do any of the things and Jen's 39.
Shanna:
I know.
Jen:
She's running out of.
Shanna:
Halloween. I know I've read eight books. I've been playing games. Guys, I'm doing a great job. I am a proper human person in the world, yay me.
Jen:
Yay you, I learned how to make little things. I'm a gurumi, yeah, agurumi, agurumi. I'm a gurumi. I don't know, I learned how to make one. Is it a ball? Yeah, it's my little skeleton man. Oh yeah, it's a skeleton.
Shanna:
I couldn't remember what the rest of him was.
Jen:
Yeah, I went home for Thanksgiving to visit my family and I was sitting there and I just felt so obsessed with these little Halloween dudes and I wanted to make them so bad. And then I looked over at my mom, who's sitting there crocheting everything yeah, like she has, all she does is crochet and I was like, oh my god Duh. So I looked up a pattern. I said, hey, mom, do you have this kind of hook and this kind of yarn? She's like, yeah, I do and you can have it. I was like sweet. And then she showed me how to read the pattern and I made it and I made a post picture because I love it and I'm obsessed and I just hold it and look at it all the time. It's beautiful and I haven't had time to make any more, but I will, and just wait until I have my Etsy shop, guys. Yeah.
Shanna:
And then you can buy them. For me, it's going to be so good. We're going to have like six things to sell in the next year, yes, so look forward to that. Yeah, the bids will be quite tight due to the limited supply. I think that's all we have for you this week. I think that's all we have for you this week. Guys, you can follow us all over the place Facebook, on Instagram and TikTok. Check out the show notes. It'll all be in there. I bet they're in there, right?
Jen:
Yep, but otherwise we'll see you in two weeks. We'll see you in two weeks. Bye, you did it, you did it.
