The Buzz with ACT-IAC
The Buzz with ACT-IAC
Building Bridges in GovCon: A Talk with an Associates Graduate from the Wilco Group
In this episode of 'The Buzz from ACT-IAC,' host Yohanna Baez dives into the journeys of early career professionals in the ACT-IAC Professional Development Associates Program. Senior Digital Transformation Consultant John Rehm from the Wilco Group shares his story, from his communications background to his current role in federal contracting. John discusses the invaluable skills he acquired, the challenges he overcame, and the supportive mentorship he received. He also highlights the significance of building a network and the profound impact the program had on his career. The episode wraps up with a fun game of acronym wars, showcasing the everyday jargon in government and contracting.
00:00 Introduction to the Buzz from ACT IAC
00:33 Meet John Rehm: Digital Transformation Consultant
01:52 John's Career Journey and Early Challenges
04:57 Joining the ACT IAC Professional Development Program
08:03 First Impressions and Growth Areas
10:59 Pivotal Moments and Key Learnings
12:49 Mentorship and Overcoming Challenges
14:04 Applying New Skills in the Workplace
15:54 Networking and Future Aspirations
18:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
25:11 Fun with Acronym Wars
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Yohanna: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome back to the buzz from ACT IAC. I am your host, Yohanna Baez, and today we are diving into the experiences of early career professionals who have taken part in the ACT IAC Professional Development Associates Program. We will explore their journeys. Before After During and after the program, what they learned, how they grew and where they are headed next.
Yohanna: Okay. Let's jump right in.
Yohanna: I'm here with John Rehm. He is with, uh, the Wilco group. Welcome to the buzz, John. How are you feeling? Yeah, I'm doing pretty well. How are yourself? I'm great. So go ahead and introduce yourself.
John Rehm: So yeah, as John has said, my name is John Ram. I am a senior digital transformation consultant at Wilco group, which is an eight, a woman owned small business.
John Rehm: Now. You may be thinking, what is a digital transformation consultant? A lot of buzzwords going [00:01:00] on. My main clay day to day job is I work with the federal staff along with the contractors to hone in on their process improvement. So what does that mean? So I help track what the work is being done, understand the requirements for getting a new system set up.
John Rehm: Uh, helping transfer data from a quote unquote legacy system, which is really just something that's more permanent or like visible into the cloud. And then, uh, my kind of specialty area is in cybersecurity compliance. And so I help be the kind of the middle person. I'm not the ones and zeros coder type.
John Rehm: I've definitely learned a lot more in the past probably two, three years about it, but helping understand what are the requirements to obtain a, an ATO, which is an authority to operate, which essentially says that. A system that meets requirements for safety and security, uh, for the federal government.
Yohanna: Oh, wow.
Yohanna: Well, that's fascinating. So every career move has a spark behind it. Something that pushes us to take that next step. Uh, what [00:02:00] was it about our professional development program at IAC that, that caught your attention and made you want to apply?
John Rehm: Yeah. So the. I guess, uh, I might go a little long, like a little bit back in the history of how I got to this point.
John Rehm: So in undergrad, I actually majored in communications and I had this big dream of I wanted to be a public affairs officer down in DC. I go out there, be on the campaign trail and so on. So my senior year, I was looking for jobs and nothing was quite biting. So I was like, you know what, I'm going to try and network with an organization that my university worked with.
John Rehm: They did a higher education and healthcare consulting. That was a sales and marketing role. And so I was like, you know what, I'm going to go for it. I applied, didn't hear back. And it's like, all right, I've got, I'm just going to go have fun. I'm like, I had a job down in Key West at a high adventure base.
John Rehm: And then Ray was about to leave for my hometown in central PA, which is like a very small rural area. Got an email saying, would love to interview, can you come down in DC? No, this day. So like, you know what, this is perfect. I can [00:03:00] drive from Pennsylvania, stop in DC, see other friend, do the interview, tear my way down to Key West.
John Rehm: And as I, so went down and had the interview, I'm like, I think it went pretty well, but we'll see. And then it was like a day or two later when he had South Carolina, like, Hey. We love to have you join. Can you start next week? It's like, oh man, this is gonna be .
Yohanna: Exactly. Like what?
John Rehm: And yeah, and I was like, whoa, week to go.
John Rehm: Gotta find a place. So drove all the way down, dropped a friend off, made the trek back up. And then before I knew it, I was in DC and I quickly realized that the sales and marketing route was not quite, I think what I wanted to do. I worked in another company where I did kind of digital pr, SEO driven things.
John Rehm: Wonderful people that I worked with, but just not the work that really, I don't know, energize me throughout the day today. And, uh, the last company, they had a perk where they'll pay for an, uh, master's program and I was asking around, hi, I'm in DC. I have this job. It's not really, you know, DC related. And, uh, I was like, what, what are your thoughts?
John Rehm: What's a good way to [00:04:00] enter, I don't know, like the DC world. And, uh, I was talking to a few friends and they're all federal contractors. I'm like, what is a federal contractor? Like my parents worked for the federal government back in Pennsylvania. But I think I heard the term contractor before. I was like, wait, isn't the government just federal employees?
John Rehm: And they explained, Oh no, there's actually companies that the government employs to conduct work, work. I'm like, Oh, this sounds pretty cool. And so I ended up getting an MBA with a concentration in cybersecurity. Cause like, this is pretty cool.
Yohanna: Oh, okay. And I was like paid through the company. Okay. I see the connection there.
Yohanna: Yeah.
John Rehm: Okay, cool. I met a few people in my program who were federal contractors and one, I think it was like 2021 kind of hit my point. I was like, all right, I don't know if I want to stay in DC. a car and everything ready to go. And then I networked to the friend. I was like, Hey, do you think I'm qualified to work in the federal contracting side and like, Oh yeah, we'll hire you.
John Rehm: I was like, Oh, okay. And then, sure enough, went through the process, and [00:05:00] what I loved about it Once my first project was with the Navy, and I love that I was able to kind of this is like the spark, I guess, which will IAC associates program. Yeah, sure. Uh, I loved having a, I don't know, I feel like I was giving back in a way to the government.
John Rehm: This is going to sound very altruistic. Understand that. But I felt like I was doing some kind of service, helping folks out and, you know, getting the things that they need and making sure that they're complying. And then from there, I ended up getting a random phone call from a recruiter. And I told myself, like, I don't know if I want to go from a large company to a small one.
John Rehm: Then I met my boss, Janice Garcia Keating, and she is incredible.
Yohanna: She's
John Rehm: like the most, I don't know, like very human person, like a very authentic German person.
Yohanna: Yeah.
John Rehm: And, and yeah, talking about it and she had a very similar vision. And like last year she mentioned about the Act I Associates program and like, this sounds really cool.
John Rehm: Like I want to learn more about the federal contracting side and yeah, just kind of delve in more. [00:06:00]
Yohanna: That's amazing. Well, that's a great connection there. I really like how your boss saw something and was like, let me see if there's a connection. Let me introduce you. Lisa. I think sometimes many professionals, they enter the development programs hoping to gain new skills or overcome specific challenges.
Yohanna: Were there any particular areas where you were looking for growth when you applied or what was something that you saw that you really wanted to, uh, get into?
John Rehm: Yeah, that's a great question. Overall, probably three main areas. The first one was simply being more confident when interacting with federal employees and also other contracts.
John Rehm: I've only ever been on the delivery side. So I'm so used to being in one small kind of like siloed area on a project versus having the full holistic view, which I was moving into and currently am on the program level. So one, just being more confident and knowing what the language is. Number two, I know a little bit about business development and natural contracting acquisition life cycle, [00:07:00] but I didn't have enough knowledge to even like remotely speak properly about it.
John Rehm: And everyone on my team, Crypto Red Powerhouse, who are all incredible people, I definitely lucked out in having probably arguably the best team and best coach. Um, but they're all on the BD side and I learned so much just from them and from the program that now I can actually work with my boss and say, Hey, I, I see this opportunity where I see we're working with these people, like how can I help out?
John Rehm: Here's what I'm seeing. And then the third one was, or probably be the, probably, I don't know how to describe it. Maybe like building, if I just say building a network with people, like if I go to an event such as Emerging Leader Conference up in Hershey, if I was not in the Act I Act program, I would know nobody.
John Rehm: And I would be probably very shy, very quiet. Because last time I knew enough people that they're like, Hey John, come sit with us, come hang out. Um, yeah, it's made it a lot easier to kind of move into that environment.
Yohanna: That's great. That's really good to hear. Being confident, like, takes you [00:08:00] far, I think, in life, just having that spark, that energy.
Yohanna: Alright, so, starting a new program can kind of be exciting. It's also a little bit of, like, you know, intimidating. What were the first impressions when you joined our professional, uh, development program as an associate, right? Was there anything that stood out or, like, surprised you? I know that you mentioned you had a great group, like, let's talk about that or maybe like the coach.
John Rehm: Yeah. Some associates is focused on folks who have, I think, six years or less in the workforce, at least in the federal government. And so I joined the program. I started working professionally full time nine to five in 2015. So we've already kind of hit that six year plus mark. I was a little nervous, like, I don't know if the program's going to be.
John Rehm: A bunch of people ran out of college, their first job, whereas I'm a little bit more tenured, other professional side, financial contracting, I still only had three to four years. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to go for it. I'm going to get a shot. Let me see. Yeah. That's basically what it was [00:09:00] like. And then worst case scenario, I talked to my boss and Sarah, like, Hey, maybe we can bump you up to voyagers.
John Rehm: And so I had this kind of preconceived notion in my mind that I would be on the older end. Yeah.
Yohanna: Well, seasoned, vintage. Like, yes. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
John Rehm: And I was completely wrong. There are so many people who are the same point professionally in their lives that I met that had the same feeling of, Oh, I thought this would be like this, or I was a little worried about, and I was like, Oh my gosh, I am so glad I'm not the only one.
John Rehm: And everyone I interacted with on the associates within the Switches program, both as a participant and on the coaching, they all had the most, I don't say a genuine approach to things. And I. No one seemed to come from, not no one, there are a few people I'm sure, but I was surprised at how many people came from a, like, atypical background.
John Rehm: Like some of the coaches program was a nurse, where they came into the role of contracting. Someone specialized in, uh, like biology as a science, [00:10:00] like doing the more scientific research. And I was really surprised that there are a lot of folks that had different backgrounds coming into it. And then I'm thinking like, Oh, maybe this is a typical background coming from a communication side.
John Rehm: And I think that honestly enriched the program a lot more. You did get people with different points of view, how like different studies and approaching a problem. And like my team, again, so like my favorite, but yeah, interacting with them made me realize that people in federal contracting do truly believe in the mission of the agency that they're serving or working with.
John Rehm: And that, I don't know, it was nice. It reaffirmed my decision to move into the GovCon world, government contracting world.
Yohanna: I know that like programs, um, often have defining moments, whether it's a project or an experience. I think you kind of touched on that with the experience. You realize like, this is it.
Yohanna: Is there anything else that sticks out for you? Can you share a pivotal moment that made a significant impact on you?
John Rehm: [00:11:00] Yeah, it's definitely working with our COI, which is the community of interest. Our team focus was acquisition. So we obviously worked with the acquisition COI and Scott Simpson, who is the The leader of it or the chairperson working with him was incredible.
John Rehm: I learned so much about the acquisition side and not just on the technical aspects. We had a panel on trying to alleviate or understand what the misdeceptions that both government and industry have about, uh, acquisition was interesting to hear that. I didn't realize that the government truly wants to partner with contractors much earlier on in the process.
John Rehm: Cause they know that industry is there in the weeds getting the, you know, latest cutting edge technology. They know what's out there, the best practices. And then the government wants that informed decision to ensure that they can help create a contract or a procurement effort to really meet the needs of the American people.
John Rehm: Like what was set out for the mission of the agency department, but also on the contracting [00:12:00] side. Everyone kept being like, Oh, well, we have to rush around and get these contracts last minute. And everyone doesn't care about that. And then realize that the government's like, no, you care. Like we're, so it was cool.
John Rehm: It was nice to see that everyone was aligned, even if it didn't feel like it in the moment. And having that click, I was like, okay, anytime I interact with someone, they're a person. They have a mission to accomplish. We're all together. If something makes sense, let's go for it. If it doesn't, like, Hey, you know what?
John Rehm: This is not the opportunity for me at the moment, but we'd love to stay in contact and know like how we can help out in the future.
Yohanna: Well, that's good. You guys did a little myth busting together. That's great. So of course their journey is without its challenges. One of the great aspects of. No, I think our program is the mentorship, like the coaching, exactly what you just described.
Yohanna: How did your coach help you navigate any challenges?
John Rehm: Our coach was Laura Smith. And what I loved about Laura's style of, we'll say, I'll do, I'll do coaching and [00:13:00] then mentoring as a coach. Laura allowed us to go off, like do our, be autonomous, to do our thing, but always pop in at the right moment to say, Hey, have you thought about this?
John Rehm: Or what are you thinking about that? Kind of being that, that person to just ask the questions to get our mind starting without coming in and saying like, Oh no, you have to do this. You have to do that. So I really love the, I guess the trusting hands off approach. And I think that allowed our team to really come together.
John Rehm: And go through the whole forming, storming, normally performing the route. And Laura's always there like, all right, everyone, like we're going through this. It's okay. Like we're going to be all right. And then I know throughout the program, I guess we had more of the coaching style, but I know if I were ever at an event or had a question, like professionally, I could go to Laura and ask like, Hey, this is my experience.
John Rehm: You've seen me operate in the ACT IAC Associates program. What are your thoughts? How can I really fine tune my message?
Yohanna: Okay, good. So there's guidance, there's freedom, [00:14:00] there's you're moving at the speed of trust. That's all really great. Yeah. Were there any skills or insights you picked up that you were able to implement right away in your work?
John Rehm: So on the knowledge side, understanding the procurement process has really helped me out to know where as someone who's on the delivery side, he's, you know, in the seat as a contractor doing the work and working with clients. Knowing that how we got to that point was, I think, extremely helpful because now I can go back and read through a, you know, statement of work of, okay, like what am I, I can go back to the contract and see where it connects to for like the key, key performance parameter or what the ultimate goal was.
John Rehm: So my hammock, okay, I now have this background of why I'm doing it. And then knowing the why, I'm not just aimlessly shooting off emails, trying to coordinate meetings. I can be more tactful with it and saying that we have, based on the mission of the agency and based on how the contract is [00:15:00] written, our goal is to Get to this point by this time, here's how we're going to do it.
John Rehm: Here's how it connects in. Like, guess me, you see, T needs to go through all of these juror tickets or work tickets that come in. But the reason why we're doing that is to ensure that we are moving the program forward, like based on that. So I think that was probably the most. Yeah, I've definitely submitted that right away.
John Rehm: And I've worked with my, my client today and, and I explained like how I was going about things, just like, yeah, that's perfect. Like you're, you've got the background, like, like,
Yohanna: okay. That sounds great. That sounds like efficiency. That sounds like, you know, you can distill information down to something, reverse engineering.
Yohanna: That's really, that's great. I love that.
John Rehm: Um, I'll start using that term from now.
Yohanna: Yeah. Yeah. Take it. Go for it. Um, a big part of the program is bringing together people from both industry and government. What was the most valuable takeaway from collaborating with peers across these sectors? [00:16:00]
John Rehm: Definitely bridging in a, we call it bridging the gap or the communication gap and a understanding that the misconceptions that are out there are not, they're not rooted in anything other than both government industry wanting to have the best outcome for everybody.
John Rehm: So I think for me, seeing the, seeing the passion on both sides, and again, I Working with folks in the business development or the capture, which I learned that are two different things, like, yes, they're out there spending countless hours to get a contract written to meet a request for information RFI or request for proposal RFP and the hours are spent are, they're not just, I don't know, seeing the passion for wanting to get it right the first time, but also meeting the goals of the contract.
John Rehm: And that was really cool. Everyone was like, Oh, we just need more business, we need more money, but no, they're really focused on meeting the mission and putting forth good work. And on the government side, the same thing. I think, like, again, I've had family at work in the federal government, a few friends I have [00:17:00] before, and I know what they're like outside of work, but then seeing the friends that I have or folks that I know and their personalities outside of work, never in the work environment, then seeing the people who kind of.
John Rehm: Reminded me of them, like, Oh wow, like this person, like, wait, they're in this position. They really care about energy policy and how do we create contracts to ensure that we're not just putting a band aid on something. How do we actually solve a problem? How do we move things forward into a better way? So I guess short version is Real Estate House, both government and industry professionals are extremely passionate about what they do.
Yohanna: No, that's good. Yeah. You wouldn't think, you know, cause it's like paperwork and it's. Did we cross our t's and dot our i's? I was like, no, I really believe in this, you know,
John Rehm: great. Have fun while doing it.
Yohanna: Oh, yeah, you guys dancing over there. Wait a minute.
John Rehm: Yeah The I think was he the ELC they had a dance party or somewhere like that.
John Rehm: Oh, I'm sure I know we boogie Yeah, oh, yeah that guy I grew [00:18:00] they replied the most Very, very fun.
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Yohanna: [00:19:00] Welcome back. We've been diving into the experiences of professional development graduates, and now it's time to talk about what happens after the program, how it's made an impact, and what lessons are carrying forward.
Yohanna: Now that you've completed the professional development program, how do you think it has influenced your career path? Like, where do you see yourself going?
John Rehm: Well, man, I really thought about this too much to be honest. It
Yohanna: is, I think,
John Rehm: You know, going through the program, it definitely reaffirmed that I do enjoy government contracting.
John Rehm: I enjoy the people that I am working with. I love the fact that I am, again, tangently giving back to, you know, giving back, uh, a little bit to the federal government. And so I think that definitely reaffirmed that this is where I want to be. I like this industry. Business development side, which before I would.
John Rehm: Not, I wouldn't be as interested, which is kind of ironic coming from a relative sales and marketing background. But I think now that I [00:20:00] have seen people have gone from the, you know, delivery contracting side into the actual like response in RFI and RFP, helping me that person is done cutting both sides of the coin, I think would be really interesting.
John Rehm: And I would love to like, you know, work with my boss who, she has been extremely like Amazing and supportive. And it has included me on various calls with people to respond to an RFI or RP. So I'm kind of seeing that behind the scenes and slowly getting my feet wet, we'll say without fully jumping in. At the moment, I spent most of my time with.
John Rehm: FEMA, so FEMA DHS. So I would like to kind of make that more my specialty, if that makes sense. Like having an area of expertise that is more honed in versus a broad, like, Oh, John does process improvement or John does ATO control compliance. Like you can say, John does that, but FEMA DHS is his bread and butter.
John Rehm: So I'm hoping to kind of stay in that route at the moment.
Yohanna: And it's good. [00:21:00] Maybe I can come back in a couple of years and see where you are and just check in, like, you got a new job. What's going on? Oh, you have your own shop. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds great. That's good to hear. So one of the most valuable things about programs like this is the network you build, have you kept in touch with your cohort, the procurement powerhouse team, or maybe your coach?
Yohanna: Have those connections continue to play a role in your career?
John Rehm: Yeah, so we, I mean, it's still kind of fresh since we graduated, but yeah, we still have our, um, what do you call it? Not WeChat. My gosh. The, what's it? The green? WhatsApp. Oh my gosh. The WhatsApp chat for a team. And like, we'll like see things that are, like we'll chat one offs with an entire cohort.
John Rehm: We've got that chat as well. There's a few folks who help coordinate different events, like happy hours or like, Hey, I'm going to be at this event. If you're there, let me know. Love to connect. So yeah, I definitely plan on seeing the contacts. So I think it's whether it be through an event, [00:22:00] like one off chat or someone comes in to the UC area, more than happy to grab a happy hour.
John Rehm: We were a few folks up in New York, New Jersey that I'm sure if like up in the area, like one that connects and I definitely want to have continue a Our COI contacts, now Scott Simpson, he is, you know, afterwards, he's like, we'd love to have you all help out with the, with the act. I act like the COI would be from helping with events and staying involved.
John Rehm: So I definitely want to keep that connection strong, like moving forward.
Yohanna: That's good to hear. If someone is listening and is on the fence about applying to our professional development program, what would you say to them?
John Rehm: Oh, definitely do it. Like a hundred percent. It's worth it. It's fun. Even the exposure to both your cohort, the coaches, the community of interest and experts in their field.
John Rehm: Definitely worth it. No matter what. Um, I've seen people who have probably been in government contracting, you know, [00:23:00] three plus years goes to an event with Act IAC and still learn something new. At the day.
Yohanna: All right. So last question, leadership is crucial in both government and industry. From your perspective, how does this program prepare future leaders to tackle the challenges we face today?
Yohanna: Ooh,
John Rehm: that's a good one. In my humble opinion is. The connections that you make. Cause once you get to see someone on a professional, professional capacity, you look them like, Oh, it's Daniel who I met in the act. I had a program like five years ago. Like, Oh, we had a great time. He's very knowledgeable in this area.
John Rehm: I guess a family, you know, really active in his community. And now you're at a professional setting, having that background. Not just thinking, Oh, this is someone I have to work with. And then having that unified vision of what it means to be a federal employee or government contractor, that we're both in this together, we're here to make positive outcomes for whatever agency, department, or organization that you're working with.
John Rehm: [00:24:00] And it's not just about making money or it's not just about having the cheapest contract to go out. It really is about having positive outcomes. And I think Act I Act does an amazing job in putting that to the forefront. Of their messaging of their purpose. And I've seen it throughout our, the associates program on a, you know, different panels or trainings that we had, I've seen it in the coaches and the mentors on their, the way that they communicate and work with us and just being very blunt and honest.
John Rehm: And I think that having those candid conversations about maybe an issue or something that's going really well, like, why is he going well, like not. Like having that, yeah, very blunt, candid, honest, open conversation about how do we make things better? So I think that is the biggest thing I've learned in, yeah, that's why the associates program and I've definitely seen it translate into leaders.
John Rehm: Like again, on the coaching side with Sarah, who's the director. Obviously I did not speak a lot with the CEO of Act. io, but he also seems to embody that [00:25:00] as well.
Yohanna: You know, he's a cool dude. So, all right, we've had a great conversation about career growth and professional development. But before we wrap up, let's have a little fun.
Yohanna: If we're going to play a quick game called acronym wars.
John Rehm: Oh man.
Yohanna: Are you ready? I'm going to quiz you on your knowledge of just common and not so common government acronyms because that is our life. We live among the acronyms.
John Rehm: That is true. All
Yohanna: right, so are you ready? Yep, I'm ready. Okay, cool. So round one.
Yohanna: First up, what is F I S M A?
John Rehm: Oh, FISMA. The Federal Information Standards Oh, federal information system metrics. Oh, I got, I don't, what's the MA? Am I close? Close,
Yohanna: close, close. You're almost there.
John Rehm: Information standards. They work with FSMA on the ATO side a lot. That's only a, like the compliance side. Ah, did they get the [00:26:00] FIS correct?
Yohanna: No.
John Rehm: No? Oh, okay. Yeah. I give up.
Yohanna: Time's up. Federal Information Security Management Act.
John Rehm: That's what it was. Okay, don't tell anyone about that one.
Yohanna: It's just going to be on our body.
John Rehm: Yeah, it's just like, uh. Hopefully.
Yohanna: John, I don't know that.
John Rehm: It's funny because now you type acronyms out, you just like instantly know.
John Rehm: What it is. We never know exactly what the letters are. I mean, I like this game.
Yohanna: All right, next acronym. This one is N. P. S.
John Rehm: National Park Service.
Yohanna: There you go. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Alright, this one I never, I always get confused because, let's see here, FCC.
John Rehm: Oh, Federal Communications Commission.
Yohanna: There you go, yes.
Yohanna: That one, I never get that one right. Cause FCC, there's like, there's [00:27:00] another one that says, anyways, you did a great job. Two out of three.
John Rehm: FCC, yeah, there's a bunch. These levels I can usually do, early commissions. Yeah. Look, I didn't get Visma. All right. And the family go back and she got very humbling moment.
John Rehm: You
Yohanna: did a good job. So this is great. Thank you so much.
John Rehm: No, thank you so much for allowing me to take the time today.
Yohanna: This has been such an insightful conversation. Thank you for sharing your journey and experiences with us and to our listeners. If you're interested in learning more about ACT IAC's professional development program, be sure to check out actiac.
Yohanna: org slash professional dash development. Until next time, keep learning, keep growing, and we will see you in the next episode.