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🗣️❤️ The Role of Mentoring in Mental Health: Mentoring fosters a sense of belonging and social connection.
🧠💪 Differences Between Mentoring and Coaching: Mentoring involves long-term guidance and support, focusing on both career development and psychosocial support, whereas coaching targets specific skills and performance improvement.
🔄🌟 Diverse Mentoring Relationships: The importance of having mentors both within and outside your industry to avoid echo chambers and promote innovative thinking.
🧩 Impact of Mentoring on Anxiety and Depression: Reliable mentors provide perspective, strategies to cope with challenges, and build self-confidence.
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Well, Ches, you know, just such powerful thinking on mentoring from our friend Dr. Ruth Gotian. First off, you know, I love the idea that mentors, they think decades ahead if you have a good mentor. That's pretty powerful. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. We've been lucky enough to have Marshall Goldsmith, you know, as our mentor. And of course, Marshall's in his 70s. It is interesting. You want someone who's, you know, had the experience, has done a few things, right? I do really appreciate it, her tip on don't make it your boss. That can get really complicated really fast, you know. Your boss might leave. You might outshine your boss. You might be seen, you know, she didn't mention this, but one of the things that came to mind for me was as a total suck up. You know that the boss is your mentor. Oh, how lucky are you? Do you bring an apple in every day? So so those kinds of things were great. She did talk about the importance of follow up. You know, that accountability that if you have a mentor, make sure that you know that mentor is following up with you and keeping track of what you're doing. And I thought that was a big takeaway for me in mentor selection is really important. I love that idea too. Yeah, make it not the boss. Cause I had a boss as a mentor when I was in my 20s. I remember, you know, early 20s and I was thinking about an MBA and I talked to him about it and he says, oh yeah, you don't want to go anywhere to do that. You don't want to go to one of those top schools cause you don't want to be like a CFO. That's how they're the only people who go there. You want to stick around here and do your MBA, you know? And I was like, okay. It wasn't until later I realized, oh yeah, okay, he just didn't want me to go. That was the worst advice I could have ever gotten. Yeah, exactly. So no, I love that. And I love the idea. I learn from people in different industries, different ways. I love her example of the checklist and the surgery. You know, where's that come from? Comes from aviation, you're right. Every time your pilots take off, they're going for the checklist. Yeah. I go flying with a friend of ours, Eric Schoenberg, and he's got this list. I keep looking. I go, some of these are so redundant. Do we have to do it every time? He goes, every time. These are small planes. The more I thought about it, I thought, yeah, let's make sure we do this every time. I really do want to be safe. I love her take on mental health, that having a mentor does calm your mind, right? And that they're your biggest cheerleaders. And that, you know, and of course that's right in, you know, our research around leading with gratitude and so on, that you've got somebody that you can rely on, you've got a cheerleader, somebody that's, you know, got your back and is in your corner. Boy, that goes a long way, doesn't it? Well, and I love too, the connection there, she's saying, look, it's not just calming your anxiety, it builds your self-confidence, and it pushes you out of your comfort zone. I remember you, when you were my, even though you're my boss one day, you were my mentor too, and you said, look, Adrian, you need to have connections with other people in other departments. I don't wanna. I like working with my team. And he said, no, look, have lunch at least a couple of times a week with other departments. And I started doing that. And, you know, it gets me out of my comfort zone. I didn't like doing it, but I did it, and it was good for me. It was good for our team, good for our group, and yeah, we didn't sit talking about work. We just talked about things, but it created those connections so I could go to those folks and say, hey, we've got a work issue, and I had those relationships. I loved her personal commitment to listening and reading. That's what really gets her going. She goes, yeah, you know, I've got, I do exercise and all that kind of stuff. I hate that. I do love listening. She's obviously very coachable herself and a voracious reader, just constantly feeding her mind and keeping her mind sharp. And through all of that, it's so interesting. And we've known Ruth for a while now. She brings such joy. She loves her work. And why does she love it? Because she's constantly learning and she's constantly taking advice and listening. Just great advice to the to the wrap-up. Such great advice. Yeah, I think my last one was instead of just one mentor, which we tend to do, have a team of mentors. And I love that idea. It's like, yeah, Marshall's our mentor, but we have others that I know that you especially, you know, go to others on, well, I'm having this tough business issue. You're gonna go to Scott O'Neill. You've got this kind of publishing issue. You're going to go to Eric Schoenberg. There are people that you go to that, I mean, so you're a great example to me of having a team of mentors ready to help you. Yeah. I'll tell you what's interesting about that too that you brought that up is I have people call me a lot and say, hey, will you, a book launch, for example, or we're writing a book or I've got a partner. How do you and Adrian make that work? It's that give and take. But talk about great partnerships. We can't not talk about Brent Klein. Exactly. The greatest podcast producer probably of all time. He makes it sound really good. And boy, we've challenged him with this podcast in particular. You'll have to really put the pieces together. And of course, Christy Lawrence, who we've known for forever and brings us these wonderful guests and amazing thought leaders. If you like the podcast, please share it. We'd also love you to visit thecultureworks.com for some free resources to help you and your team and your culture thrive. But what else should they be doing, Adrian? You know, we love speaking to audiences around the world, virtually or in person, so give us a call. We'd love to work with you to help address leadership, culture, teamwork, resilience, whatever you're trying to tackle in your culture. Give us a call, we'd love to talk to you about that. We've also got some amazing new anxiety work training that's out. Check out that on our thecultureworks.com website as well. And don't forget to pick up a copy of Anxiety at Work. Jeff, is that a bestseller? It is. Funny you should ask. And it's on Kindle, it's Audible, it's even on lit video books, which is a great little short movie from the book and again we just want to give a shout out to our sponsor Magic Mind. You know it really is helpful to have that little dose of confidence. You get all your vitamins, it calms your mind. I'm a huge fan. I take it all the time. So Magic Mind, look in the show notes at Skostik and Elton 20 and get your discount. Dr. Ruth Gotian, her new book is called Financial Times Guide to Mentoring. Pick up a copy and hopefully it will help you build a great mentoring relationship whether you are the mentor or the mentee. Until next time, thanks everybody for joining us and we wish you the best of mental health. Thank you.