505 Exploring NotebookLM for Productivity and Collaboration

Join hosts Katie Ritter and Matthaeus Huelse as they explore the highly-talked-about tool, Notebook LM, on this episode of Restart Recharge. Special guest Bryson Min-Ryan, Assistant Director of Learning and Development, shares his insights on how instructional coaches and adult learners can leverage Notebook LM to enhance productivity and collaboration. Discover its unique features, including customized AI-powered experiences, interactive AI-hosted podcasts, and collaborative tools that benefit educational settings. Perfect for instructional coaches, curriculum specialists, and administrators looking to boost their teams' efficiency with streamlined technology.

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Podcast Team
Hosts - Katie Ritter & Matthäus Huelse
Producer - Celine Thomas, Matthäus Huelse
Editing Team - Ben Glasure, Matthäus Huelse
Social Media Team - Grace Brown

Transcript

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Matthaeus Huelse: Calling
all Instructional Coaches,

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Curriculum Specialists,
Teachers on Special Assignment,

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or whatever they call you.

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I'm Matthaeus Huelse.

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Katie Ritter: And
I'm Katie Ritter.

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As Instructional Coaches,
we are often responsible for

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our own professional learning
and can sometimes feel

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pretty isolated in our role.

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Matthaeus Huelse: That's
why we're here, bridging

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the gap with a wealth of
tips, tricks, and building

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a community of coaches.

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Katie Ritter: So hit the
restart button with us.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Recharge
your coaching batteries.

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Katie Ritter: And hopefully
you'll leave feeling

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just a little bit less on
your own coaching island.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Welcome
back to Restart, recharge.

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Today we present you part
one of two about a tool

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that's generating a lot
of buzz in education.

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Right now we wanna
talk about NotebookLM.

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We're joined by Bryson
Min-Ryan, our resident

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expert on NotebookLM, and
our Assistant Director of

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Learning and Development.

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He brings extensive experience
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tech solutions within.

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Educational settings and
together we'll uncover how

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instructional coaches and
adult learners can leverage

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this powerful platform.

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to not only boost their
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to enhance collaboration.

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So welcome to the pod Bryson.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: Yeah.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate it.

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Long time coming.

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I've been looking
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Matthaeus Huelse: I've been
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it too, until we finally
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Bryson Min-Ryan: For sure.

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Katie Ritter: I love
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to being on the pod.

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That's awesome.

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Bryson, let me just add just a
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you, for a number of years
have been, one of our onsite

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desktop technicians and then
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you've been overseeing

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teams of onsite technicians
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day, on a bit more of
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And recently you've come
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focused on internal employee
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And right now you're kind of
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in K 12 schools every day,
working and leading a team,

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but then you're also back
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forward Edge employees.

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From a learning and
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So Matthaeus and I are super
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perspectives that you're gonna
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get to learn from you in the
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this incredible tool, that we
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So let's get started.

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And first, would you, just for
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NotebookLM is, would you explain
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Bryson Min-Ryan: Yeah, for
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to thank you both for the
lovely introductions I got.

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It's been a bit of a whirlwind,
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technology impacts schools and
then getting an opportunity

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to come back here to forward
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with our staff here as well.

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One of the platforms that has
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in terms of how we approach.

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Learning solutions and overall
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NotebookLM is a Gemini
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research companion in a way.

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If we look at its original
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consolidation of resources
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like Google Docs or
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And,  allows you to create
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research assistant for you.

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But the underlying principle
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AI to analyze a variety of
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to adapt it to many use cases,
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to really enable anyone to find
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Matthaeus Huelse: So what makes
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going to Gemini  or chat GPT or
whatever LLM you like to use?

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What makes NotebookLM different,
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that we usually hear about?

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NotebookLM is the fact that we
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of what the platform uses.

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So what you see in traditional,
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They have these vast training
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Meta or OpenAI are training
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can scour on the internet.

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Which in in some ways brings a
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in other ways brings almost
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irrelevant knowledge to what
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those sources together.

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Is set that boundary so
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off of the sources that
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So again, we can provide that
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experience in whatever use
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Katie Ritter: And those, when
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add, just to kind of connect
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So that's at the beginning
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Docs slides, website links,
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Those are the sources you're
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you're having an engaging with.

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Am I summarizing that correctly?

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Bryson Min-Ryan: Yeah,
you're right on the

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money with that one.

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The strength of Notebook,
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and documentation that
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So like you say, Google
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Integrates right into that
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we're familiar with, but
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even, audio or video files.

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We can upload all of that
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help us process through,
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Katie Ritter: That's awesome.

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So for our listeners who are
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coaches and folks in teacher
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necessarily go down the teacher.

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Path.

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'cause that's gonna be part two.

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Am I not supposed to say?

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you might think about
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your school's website,
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Maybe you have curriculum maps
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Google Docs, we can add all of
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To our own, setting and
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questions around our curriculum
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curriculum materials, our
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place, so on and so forth.

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I think we might dive into
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but, are there any, unique
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that particularly drew you
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able to narrow down to your
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Bryson Min-Ryan: You know,
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of features outside of just
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But what I found has been.

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Really critical to the different
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success is the variety of
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NotebookLM to display the
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It also has some prebuilt things
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, or FAQs for resources we've
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an AI hosted podcast into the
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what we have going for it.

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Katie Ritter: say more about
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Matthaeus Huelse: That's
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Bryson Min-Ryan: I figured
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catches the most attention.

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Matthaeus Huelse:
You waited, you went.

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Should that last,

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Bryson Min-Ryan: I did.

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I, well, you gotta, you gotta
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the best for last.

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Matthaeus Huelse: that's, true.

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Katie Ritter: There we go.

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Say more.

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Describe that for listeners who
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actually seen NotebookLM before.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: Yeah.

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So,  at the service level
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like research assistant.

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I can put all these
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I can ask you
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All fine and good.

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But what really makes
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the feature that they
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And what the audio overview does
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you've added, as well as any
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to it, and it turns it into a
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podcast hosts to then give
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to understand that content.

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Katie Ritter: Yeah,
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I mean, they're not as good
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Matthaeus Huelse: nah,

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Katie Ritter: it is.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Although it

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Katie Ritter: is shocking.

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Matthaeus Huelse: They do
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Sometimes I don't sound
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Now, the newest thing
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was interactive mode.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: I have, and if
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of Uncanny Valley, we have this
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giving us an overview of the
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we can take it a step further
with interactive mode, one

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of the newest features in it.

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To actually step into that
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hosts, to ask it questions
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on the topic at hand, and
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time with us providing
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their insights as well.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Yeah,
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the first time and it's.

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We don't have that feature here
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when you hit the button it
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caller, and then you can just
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questions, which is hilarious.

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Katie Ritter: How do we add
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Matthaeus Huelse: I don't know.

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We might,

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that would require
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Katie.

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We can't be live.

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Katie Ritter: Oh,

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Matthaeus Huelse: all right.

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So this is cool.

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So we looked at the tool a
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Essentially.

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It can answer questions about.

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My files which is super neat.

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Now let's talk a little
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What does it look like
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professional development?

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How can someone that is leading
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use something like notebook,
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custom tailor the sources
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initiatives that we're trying to
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that is creating an environment
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Once we do that and we add in,
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plan that we have, feedback
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learn from them, adapt them
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through every single piece of
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that, that made me think
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who's listening to this, I
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that our audience would
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conversations with teachers,
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you're struggling to think about
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for my coaching, meetings and my
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that's gone, turned into a
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how admin have used it.

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The Danielson framework into
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observation notes that they've
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up with questions, which
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Katie Ritter: Oh,
that's awesome.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: You know,
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something similar with how
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to their department.

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that the departments are taking
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having to be like constantly
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'cause I know we're all very
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these key decisions or, or
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that we need to without
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at once is  a incredible
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used this before or you were
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before, what would be the tip
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okay, maybe you
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What would you tell them?

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Okay, here's how
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Here's what you
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universally applicable to how
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with a variety of AI platforms,
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playing around with it and using
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'cause it's always that
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I've never interacted
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What can I do with it?

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wall, I hit that blank page
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I'm not really doing research.

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there, I would ask questions
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So once you get comfortable
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there, start asking questions
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that's how you will gradually
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eventually have something
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take the deep dive and try it.

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You just gotta try stuff out.

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Katie Ritter: Yeah.

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That also made me think, and
I feel like we've done, the

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three of us for sure have
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I'm thinking like, could.

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Connect some dots for our
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of your PD programs that
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So for those of you where
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PD sessions, but maybe it's a
year and you're supporting a

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brand new curriculum adoption.

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You're collecting along the way.

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resources, et cetera.

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tool, for yourself.

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and think about how we can
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collaboration or to support
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because we know that.

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Piece is really important
for adult learners, right?

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How do we get adults talking
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If we flip the script from
how I can use it or get

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started personally, which
is great, but once we've

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gotten started, how can we,
help support collaboration

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among other adults?

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Bryson Min-Ryan: Yeah, great
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advantages of NoteboNotebookLMat
it does allow sharing with

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other people so that you
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I'm gonna take two
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question that you brought up.

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And the first, let's think
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If I am working with other
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or coaches are getting
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contribute into the notebook.

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We have a much more unified
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that we work with because
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Katie Ritter: Bryson, I'm gonna
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bit deeper in that, because
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the example that we actually
had you share, company wide.

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Will you share how you
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with a team at Hamilton?

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I had a team of IT technicians.

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A technical staff, but
this really highlights the,

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universal applications that
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I wanted to find a way to
make that accessible to my

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technicians so that when they're
out in the field, they have

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quick, reliable and pertinent
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They would take all the
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on help desk tickets, and
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that into a Google Doc.

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We took that Google Doc and
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We took manuals of
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we put it in a notebook.

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We took, warranty policies,
those really extensive documents

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full of legal jargon that only
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put it into NoteboNotebookLM
isn't a large language

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model that's just scouring
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more agency in the work that
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in it because they had a
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As a team we are able to
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and then again, as a team,
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by being able to utilize this
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So many applications.

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Like onboarding information
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staff in your schools.

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Curriculum maps and lesson
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particular content areas.

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I think of like
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What tech tools do they
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curriculum programs do they
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And how do we build that
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to these district goals
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Just so many uses.

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And I think the opportunity
here is documents that have

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these pieces of information
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this document that tells

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you how to do this process
and nobody looks at it.

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Nobody's got time to go
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But now.

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You have this collaborative
approach where you can keep

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everything there, you can update
it live, but you also now are

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putting this layer of an easy,
approachable, natural language

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approach where I can just ask
questions and get my answers

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reliably from my document.

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That I think such a
great opportunity.

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Katie, you know what time it is?

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We have Bryson Min-Ryan
here talking all things

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NoteboNotebookLMhow can
support you in your day-to-day

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work as a coach supporting
adult learners, and even some

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extra techie benefits, with
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Couple of quick questions for
you before we wrap up here.

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One, I'm curious, how many
sources can we add to Notebook?

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LM as of February 26th, 2025,

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Matthaeus Huelse: Yeah, has
to be in there because it's

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not gonna stay like that.

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Katie Ritter: It very
well could be outdated

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when this episode airs.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: Yeah, ai,
certainly moves quickly and

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changes just as rapidly, but
as of right now, um, if you

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jump into Notebook, lm, you
can add up to all hundred

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sources into your notebook.

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So already super comprehensive,
but you can take it a step

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further with NoteboNotebookLM
and in that you got 300

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sources with a context
limit that's sky high.

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So, for as many resources as
you can add into the notebook,

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you should have plenty of room
to bring those together and

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pull the insights you can.

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Uh, as an avid notebook
user, not even, I have come

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close to hitting the limit.

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It's a really flexible and
generous software on that front.

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Katie Ritter: Yeah.

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And just to add some quick
clarification for listeners,

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NoteboNotebookLM you can
get that either through

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a paid Gmail account.

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You can also get that if
your school EDU domain has

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purchased the The Gemini
for education add-on, you

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would then have access to
NoteboNotebookLMShameless plug.

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You can select forward edge to
lead your free PD through 2025.

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If you do purchase that, add-on.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Super smooth.

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Well done.

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Katie Ritter: Um,

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and then my last question
that I, really wanna make

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sure to touch, 'cause we've
talked about potentially

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some sensitive things, right?

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Teachers may be spinning or
coaches might be spinning

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about, some student information.

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So I do think it's really
important for us to highlight

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some high notes around the
privacy with NoteboNotebookLM

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Bryson Min-Ryan: I think
it's it's really good that

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you bring that up because
true cybersecurity is always

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at the forefront when it
comes to K 12, especially.

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When it has to do
with student data or

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confidential information,

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Matthaeus Huelse: Mm-hmm.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: what we can
be reassured with is that in an

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education domain, within your
district or school account,

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if you jump onto Notebook, LM
right now, regardless of the

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version education domains have
privacy protections whatever

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interactions are happening
within it, they're not

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referencing external databases,
so your information is secured.

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If you have that notebook,
LM plus version, that

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privacy and security
extends to that as well.

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Matthaeus Huelse: So bottom
line, if I'm using my

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school work account, then
my data will be safe if

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I use NoteboNotebookLM'm
FERPA compliant

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Bryson Min-Ryan: That said,
we'll, we'll add a quick

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clause there that we should
always be prudent about any

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information that we are putting
out there, Especially since

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we're linking it as sources.

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So while it may exist in
NoteboNotebookLMut it somewhere

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else first, so I will wash my

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hands with that.

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Matthaeus Huelse: alright,
I thank you so much.

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We are gonna wrap it
up our last question.

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What are your top three
tips for our listeners that

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are jumping into Notebook?

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Lm.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: Top three tips.

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First and foremost,
go use NotebookLM.

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Hopefully we've excited you
about it here today, but as

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with any AI tool, the best
way to learn about it is to

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just get hands on with it.

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So start there, start playing
around with it and see what you

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can begin to come up with there.

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Katie Ritter: How do
they get to NotebookLM?

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Bryson Min-Ryan: To get
to NNotebookLM you can go

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to Notebooklm.google.com.

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Matthaeus Huelse:
That is correct.

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Yeah.

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Katie Ritter: Tip two.

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Bryson Min-Ryan: Yeah.

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Tip two,   Notebook, LM
relies on our sources, so

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maintaining the quality of
those sources means that

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you maintain the quality of
the insights and the outputs

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you're getting from NotebookLM.

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If we're taking teaching notes.

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Ensure we're keeping those up to
date, ensure that  we're taking

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down re relevant information,
or we're standardizing how we're

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approaching those one-on-ones
, if we maintain the quality of

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those sources, we maintain the
quality of the insights that we

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can pull out of those sources.

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And I think the last  and
most exciting one, as

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we mentioned, before the
break, was the capability

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of NotebookLM to really
generate a number of different

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mediums with which we can.

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Continue to do that
supplemental training.

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So it's one thing to bring all
of these resources together and

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for us to get what we need out
of it, but it's another to be

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able to collaborate with those
we're attempting to support

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through coaching or learning.

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So we can make a
notebook public facing.

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Katie Ritter: Love that.

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We're really empowering
our learners that way.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Indeed.

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So what if our listeners
would love to hunt you

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down and ask you more
questions about NotebookLM?

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Where can they find you?

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Bryson Min-Ryan: You can find
me on LinkedIn, Bryson Min-Ryan,

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and you'll see me up there,
finding all sorts of ways to

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empower tomorrow's learners.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Yeah.

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Perfect.

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Okay.

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Katie Ritter: Awesome.

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Bryson, thank you so much.

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I'm really excited about this.

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Part one, I'm also super stoked.

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Tune back in a few weeks because
we're gonna have a teacher

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talking about all the ways
that NotebookLM could be used.

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To directly support
teachers and teaching and

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learning in the classroom.

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Taking this a step further.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Exactly right.

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And listeners, if you wanna
give us some feedback, reach

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out to us on Instagram, find
us on Apple Music, Spotify,

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00:24:31,325 --> 00:24:32,915
Katie Ritter: or take
our YouTube videos and

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stick 'em in an NotebookLM

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Matthaeus Huelse: exactly plus,
if you just really wanted to

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know what this looks like when
we're here being crazy talking

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to each other, there's video
evidence of it now, so you

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can check it out on YouTube,

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Katie Ritter: which I'm not
happy about because I quit

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carrying what I looked like
for these podcast recordings

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when we no longer did video.

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Now the last one, my
hair is a wild mess.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Hey, dear
listeners, both of us have

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hair appointments coming
up, so don't take us too

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seriously in this episode,

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Katie Ritter: thank you, Bryson.

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Thank you all.

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Bryson Min-Ryan:
It was a pleasure.

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Matthaeus Huelse: Thanks for
spending time with us today.

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If you found this episode
helpful, please share it

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Katie Ritter: And connect
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what you thought of the

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episode and what topics you
want us to discuss next.

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