IYOUWE Universe

DJ Logic

July 24, 2018 IYOUWE Season 1 Episode 3
DJ Logic
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IYOUWE Universe
DJ Logic
Jul 24, 2018 Season 1 Episode 3
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Since his emergence in the early 1990s amidst the Bronx hip-hop scene, DJ Logic has been amassing a veritable mountain of collaborations ranging from the likes of Medeski Martin and Wood, Christian McBride, Vernon Reid, Charlie Hunter, Jack Dejohnette, John Mayer, Ben Harper, Mos Def, The Roots, and yours truly. DJ Logic can always be found paying homage to his predecessors while contributing his vision to the deejay genre. While the context of his work may vary, DJ Logic’s spinning skills are definitely beyond reproach. He works with a phenomenal roster of invited guests, and he knows how to pick his collaborators as well as his samples. With a growing catalogue of recordings under his belt, DJ Logic’s supreme musicianship and diverse tastes allow him to journey wherever an infectious groove may take him. Logic and I recently sat down to discuss his musical journey
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Since his emergence in the early 1990s amidst the Bronx hip-hop scene, DJ Logic has been amassing a veritable mountain of collaborations ranging from the likes of Medeski Martin and Wood, Christian McBride, Vernon Reid, Charlie Hunter, Jack Dejohnette, John Mayer, Ben Harper, Mos Def, The Roots, and yours truly. DJ Logic can always be found paying homage to his predecessors while contributing his vision to the deejay genre. While the context of his work may vary, DJ Logic’s spinning skills are definitely beyond reproach. He works with a phenomenal roster of invited guests, and he knows how to pick his collaborators as well as his samples. With a growing catalogue of recordings under his belt, DJ Logic’s supreme musicianship and diverse tastes allow him to journey wherever an infectious groove may take him. Logic and I recently sat down to discuss his musical journey
Speaker 1:

No,

Speaker 2:

lenny white here and I want to welcome you to the iue universe podcast on this podcast. I want to invite you to listening to join me and my guests as we discussed music, art, science, some amazing personal journeys and everything in between.

Speaker 3:

Since his emergency, the early nineties and mixed, the Bronx hip hop Dj logic has been messing a veritable knocking of collaboration from the likes of Midecky Martin and wood Christian mcbride running read, Charlie Hunter, Jack Dejohnette, John Mayer, Ben Harper, most def the roots and yours truly dj lots that can always be found paying homage to his predecessors while contributing his visit to the Dj John. He works with a phenomenal roster, invited guests, and he knows how to pick those collaborators as well as the samples because a growing catalog of recordings under his belt, Dj logic, supreme musicianship, and diverse tastes. Allow him to Germany wherever sexist group may take Dj logic and I recently sat down to discuss this musical journey and the state of music today.

Speaker 4:

This evening, my very special guest is dj logic. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yeah, you just got back from wherever, just got back from Colorado. What were you doing in Colorado? It was out there performing, performing in the mountains and beautiful town called Fort Collins and then performed in Denver. And uh, yeah, it was, it school was great. It was great. Great. Great. So man, let me talk with you about, I mean we've done various things together, um, and it's been really, really great actually melding these worlds, you know, between how jazz is interpreted today, but you know, as musician to musician what actually got you into your direction and what it is that you do musically because we've worked together and lots of different situations and it's always curious to me what really got you motivated to be a Dj and do what you do. What got me in with motivated me, it was starting or growing up in the Bronx and uh, and the music

Speaker 5:

in my neighborhood that I was, uh, you know, being a, you know, kind of just hit me from all angles I should say, from the Caribbean music to the Latin music's a hip hop music, the FARC and what was being played at home, the soul and all that jazz and stuff like that. So I was just so open, you know, like a book I was open and taking like a sponge, taking it all in, all this information that was hitting me from left and right. And uh, and I was just curious. I was curious to see where all these sounds is coming from and you know, going out there and exploring and uh, you know, and it was my first thing was hip hop. You know, I grew up in the bronx and you know, where like maybe like three or four blocks up the street from me from soundview. It was projects called Bronx River and a nurse will. He used to do a lot of hip hop parties and stuff like that. And uh, are you born in New York? I'm born in New York, born and raised in New York City and uh, you know, I just, just, yeah, I didn't even know it was just this, um, all this stuff has gone on around me. Like I said, I was curious and just would go explore me and my boy and uh, yeah, I know. See these little invite on the floor of the certain hip hop parties in this area called Bronx River. I said, oh, let me go check this thing out, you know, some place where I was supposed to be. But I went and checked it out. Anyway, you know, if you have any, you know, meetings with like Afrika Bambaataa and he goes, guys who liked the originators up in the Bronx area? Um, no, I've never. I didn't meet Bam. Bothered until, like later, later, later on, there was no, I wasn't, I didn't work with him. Later on, I actually married a Africa Israel. He was always a boy and I just knew all the names and all the cares, you know, from their error and who grew up in my, in my area, you know, then like jazzy Jay and uh, because I would see him drive around his, his, his, uh, 98 Oldsmobile, I remember because he had, the system was always blaring, you know, he's paying all of his, his Dj mixes and he was also for enjoyed another Dj in my neighborhood. So it was these other Djs who I was listening to them spin from their houses and stuff like that and all who still are spinning all these different records and stuff. So, and uh, you know, I just remembered the names and stuff like that. And then, um, you, I had a DJ friend at the time and he told me about Dj Pool. So I was like, you know, I want to get up into his Dj, but this is back in Lynn. This is like early should say eighties, you know. And uh, so you've been doing this a long time and I've been doing it for a long time. And uh, also had a friend in my, in my, uh, building his father was just super and uh, he, you know, he, his name was mark and uh, his father was also a special prize because me and mark became good friends and you know, he told me that his son was a dj and I would just go downstairs and practice on his turntables. He was showing me the ropes and things like that and I was just like, all right, you know, I would just get going on there and mess around with his sec because I didn't have a set at the time and he just showed me the ropes back and forth with the do and I'll just kinda watch her and what he was doing and copy what he did to, you know, it was, you know, I saved up enough paper, route money to get my turntables, you know, and stuff like that. Actually the ECZEMA mother, to get them first, you know, my moms went and got my turntables for Christmas and then I went and bought the actual real legit ones, which is the technique to oranges. What was your first party that you for Spanish? My first prior spine hours in my community, in my community, my community room in my building. And another Dj friend of mines was my boy mark and my boy jerome. And Yeah, just Kinda put our records together and get the equipment. Uh, you know, we charge people a dollar to come in, you know, we'd all take turns deejaying and you know, just kind of creating our own little thing, you know, and uh, we'll give, given me that, that mindset that helped you pick certain records and put, put it together to make you know, your Dj presentation. What, what do you look for? Well, the first thing I was listening to a lot of jazz, I was to jazz or something, a lot of funk and I guess I was just a lot of hip hop and I was trying to figure out where all these sounds were coming from, who would instrument was making these sounds, how they were making their sounds because you know, you had effects and things. I don't know how percussion and stuff like that. And, you know, and I was just kinda taking all that in like a sponge, you know, memorizing all these different rhythms and things that was going on. So when I hear certain records, like a miles Davis record, you know, I heard the, the ambient air, so the, and the delays of the keys and the reverb and all that stuff and, and the reverb on the horn and stuff like that, you know, would just find a record where I can manipulate it like that if I heard that same rhythm, I just try to create my own version of that sign, you know. So if I stepped up in the situation and uh, Improv situation, whoever I was playing with, I just tried to interpretate that sound that I was hearing, you know, the Ambien is in the reverse. So I was just doing that all by hand. And yeah, I was just taking old jazz records and messing them up and looking back at it. Like I always say, never stepped out record, but you know, it also gave me, you know, gave me the creativity to do, you know, we'd be able to do what I was able to do.

Speaker 4:

Well, how did you actually take what it is that you're doing with your boys and get a name for yourself and getting to a point where like, you got to do things outside of your neighborhood and then, you know, start to do things all over the world and, and, you know, different people.

Speaker 5:

Well, uh, that was, um, that all started at, I would say very bad to St Thomas. I started deejaying and everything. I had a good friend named Richie Harrison and uh, you know, at the time wrong. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well he lived in the next building from me and also go over to his house and listen to records and he turned me onto this stuff as well. And uh, you know, he, at the time he had an alternative rock. Then he thought it would be cool for me, you know, hey, I want you to come down as some practice with my band. And I was like, okay, you know, I didn't think they of it, you know, being young and still absorbing everything is as a sponge. And yeah, I went down and I met these amazing musicians, you know, from different price of the city, New York. And uh, one of the guys was Melvin Gibbs Bass player and Gary Paulson, guitarists, dk dyson vocalist, Andy Paulson, and you know, and uh, yeah, it was, yeah, it was like a big, it was just, yeah, it was special for me to walk out for us to get out of the Bronx and experience something new. And, and I think I was the music building. They used to be on like 4:30 something 38th street. It was called the music building and walking out today and hear all the music coming from either this building or this rock sounds, know people who get all these different bands playing. There was a different world when I was, I walked into like certain, you know, like a whole nother planet, you know. But uh, so yeah, I went and practice, you know, practice with them and we did a thing. And uh, the name of the bar was quite inr and uh, yeah, so he and the, and the I and so yeah, no, I went down with practicing with them and that's when I started, uh, yeah, started, just kinda become, incorporate myself like a musician at the time because at the time, and there was no djs collaborating with a, a band at that time there was no. So this was something new. This was something that was very new. Would you consider yourself, did you know anybody else that was doing it at that time? Were you the first person to do that? Yeah, that was the first one to do that because at that time it was brilliant, you know, only personality. I'm sort of reduced. She'll do walk this way with aerosmith. So that was kind of inspiration is seeing them do their thing and then, but it wasn't something like was consistent, you know what I'm saying? So you didn't see there was no sugars or live biscuits or you know, you've got all these other bands that incorporated, you know, Djs now. But uh, yeah, it was, it was something fresh and new and unique and, and, uh, and that was something, you know with hip hop was, you know, something conceptual. Conceptual, yeah. A lot of times what happens is

Speaker 3:

people think

Speaker 4:

you just think of music, it's something that's on the page or something you come up with here, there, but sometimes conceptually speaking, taking things out of context and putting them together creates a different kind of music. And so conceptually speaking, you took the concept of turning tables and mixing music in with real musicians and doing it in present tense as opposed to. What is the first recording that you did? The first recording was with Diana. That was a. yeah, it was. And it was one that came out on Sony. So that was a. yeah, it was, it was something special, you know. So you, you been doing this for how many years now? Over a decade. But, uh, I mean I know back in 2004. Yes, we worked together. Yes, we did a, a project that's hopefully gonna probably come out this year. Yes. I'm called new brew with Stanley Clarke. Yes, victor barely. Yeah, I'm robin forward and George Collagen plays keys and Mike Clark played drums and I played drums. Yeah. And we went into the studio and did a few tracks, but we also did a live gig at bb kings that was the same configuration but also had Kenny Garrett on sax and also had, um, Eddie Henderson on trumpet. And so it was very interesting. I mean it was kind of cool for me to do that with you because I hadn't worked like that and I thought it was really interesting in and opened up a lot of possibilities for me. So how many recordings have you been on since?

Speaker 5:

Uh, so I mean, you go all over the world. Yeah, her go over the world and I found out about a different mode, a different, a different albums and all the different categories. You have any been really big albums that like you mentioned that people would know. Wow, let me see. Uh, I mean all of them was special to me, you know, they looked them all up. There'll be surprised. But, uh, um, I mean, I, I would say that I know one was big, uh, where else? My desk[inaudible] Martin and wood and for mw, um, uh, working with Vernon Reid. I'm a mama's stick at mistaken identity album as well as your hamby brothers. Uh, I would say, uh, my record dj logic presents project logic, uh, working with, uh, was working with, uh, a tour of Pharaoh and for Latin jazz orchestra. Um, well we went together to the country of Georgia. That's right, yes, right. We worked with Becca. Rebecca, yeah, yeah, yeah. The wiki. Yeah. I know the Wiki who are still miles electric band, uh, West. Um, also with the, uh, the wallace was not, it was Ronnie and I'm just just talking buster Williams saying Bennie Maupin and Antwan, Ronnie, uh, our forester. So you've been doing it awhile and you pretty diverse in what you do, but they're like, and was in there too. Sorry, Doug. The fact that it's just like, you still do this now when you go and you do these different things. Yes. On the weekends and. Well, not even just on the weekends, it's a, even if it could be even the middle of the week, you know, this is one offs here and there and uh, and whatever scheduled through my agent or do me.

Speaker 4:

Let me ask you, I'd like your opinion on a couple of things. One is when you first heard bitches brew? Yes. How did that affect you?

Speaker 5:

Um, well if it's affected me is I, I mean it was like such a unique record that was so, you know, abstract with so many different sounds and textures going on. It must've been a DJ's online. It was, it was, it was a DJ goldmine and it was, I mean, it was so many different things you could, could've grabbed off it and the sample and as well as actually so what, you know with that, where's that coming from, you know? And uh, yeah, I mean I think I had at least four or five copies of that record, you know, I mean, I even love to cover your cover art. That was the favorite. Yeah, that's it. That's what made me stay in the record stores, you know, because I was trying to look up for every mile is record, you know, because this covers and then this as well as the artists that were on it. Everybody I. Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 4:

Change. Because you know about vital. Yes. You know about customers you suspend but you know about vinyl and you know, how records. Yes. And the covers were synonymous with great artists and then you can read all of the other people that were on recording how to recording was done. That's changed.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. Yeah. And this is something I noticed, you know, because when you look at the covers also tells you about the artists and you know, and then, and then when he's listened to the music, then I also explained to you about, you know, as well as the cover. Did you spin cds? No, that's been vinyl. That's what I, you know, still to this day, um, stick to vinyl right now. But uh, you know, there's no, I mean, nothing towards the cds and the digital stuff. I mean, I still do that, but I just love my vinyl. You know, there's something about the vinyl as you know, the sound quality and which you, which you get when you're here, you know, when you put the needle down, you know, you, you feel like you right there or the music's right there, you know, in your room.

Speaker 4:

How, how has it changed today? I mean like, aside from the fact that vinyl is not what it used to be and now the medium has changed. I mean like, you know, cds, cds, but did not even manufacturing cds anymore. It's about streaming. So how do you feel about that and does that affect how you do what it is? Did you do?

Speaker 5:

Um, I mean it doesn't affect the, doesn't affect too much, but I just takes away of the me, you know, trying to look up the artists as well as the players of people who played on the records and stuff like that. Because I always loved reading, you know, the liner notes and things like that and this with the streaming and all that, you can't get that. You'll just comes right to, it comes right to you in your face. Here's the music boom, you know, so it's less personal. Yeah. So, you know, I like to be one with the artists and see how, how much would put kind of, you know, Tom, they put in it who they grabbed to be a part of their, you know, a part of their project and uh, it's Kinda almost like food, you know, you want to know what's in your food, you know, all the different spices and things like that, you know, it makes the thing come together so beautifully.

Speaker 4:

Well that is something that I'd like to talk with you about and that is just like now I've known you for a long time. Yes. And I've always known you as being dj logic. Yes. And then, I think it was a year ago, a year and a half ago or whatever, there's this rapper that came out called themselves call himself logic. How did he do that? Can you explain what happened with that?

Speaker 5:

Uh, yeah. And, uh, you know, I'm gonna speak a little brief about it, but uh, yeah, it was something I was even shocked and surprised about, you know, um, like I said, I've been doing this for over 20 years and uh, I made a mark with my brand and my name in the market in different genres of music and uh, you know, and this is given before the.com era for a, you know, facebook's and, you know, the Internet thing, bubble and all of that stuff. And uh, yeah, so, you know, not, you know, just me kind of listening to my peers at the time being young, this is what I had to do to protect myself and this and that, you know, I took my little money and when invested into myself and just wanting to trademark my name and you know, I don't, my name is unusual name. I wanted to have a name that represented me musically and yeah. Yeah. And I'd said protect yourself, protect myself before I took the next step and putting a record and started touring and stuff like that. Because you know, you needed to, you know, establish, you know, your mark. So, um, you know, so I took my little$3,000 and walked around the block, you know, China to figure out is the right thing to do. And I say, you know, what, here this, go to this lawyer, this is what I want to do and I want to treat my knee. And uh, yeah. So that's what I did. And uh, and uh, you know, we did all the paperwork and everything and this is like 90, I think I changed my name, run and the nineties, somewhere in there and uh, yeah. And I just had to keep renewing it and stuff like that. And yeah, like I said, I've been using a name, a logic Dj, lazy guys say, but you know, the Dj just basically was the, you know, short example of what I do, right. Just say emc or Dr. there you go. Right. And when people interview me, they used to view me as large know as logic and you know, in a see in the books and magazines. But uh, yeah. So I was, you know, like I taught every state in America more than once, even in Europe, total all over Europe, all over the world, everywhere. And uh, yeah, not thinking of that and you know, and I said over 20 years been using the name now digging, then nobody would try to come with, you know, using the name and uh, you know, I had some issues before where somebody came out, call himself Dj logic and, and I had a cease and assist, did everything by law. I had the lawyer, right assistances they took care of that. Then I had a, another issue with another Dj from New York who was from Brooklyn. He was also associated with uh, um, uh, the guys from a buck shot and um, we're not books are the Fargo bugs die from our duck down and all those guys and they are good friends, you know, people are grew up listening to hip hop. So they added was gone by Dj, but then they're all called me. He's like, ah, logic, nothing to be, you know, to venue and this and that. And I was like, it's all good. And we ended up meeting each other and it was just like, you know, mutual thing, you know, because they knew I was doing it for awhile and data and you know, it was hip hop, Pablo obesity, you know, but then I ended up working with Buckshot who's a great mc and uh, you know, the whole Smith and Wesson crew and all those cats and evil dee and all those cats and yeah. So there's stuff handled that. And then, uh, yeah. So, you know, like I said, my lawyers take care of certain different things, you know, anything that popped up that didn't look great until uh, you know, some, some, it was a 2000, maybe 11 or 12. Um, you know, I get this, this, someone's hitting me up saying, hey, you play in here, you, you're doing this. I'm like, no, I was just there, you know. And I'm like, backtrack and trying to see what was going on in these certain venues and stuff like that. I'm like, Huh, who is this character? And wise people confuse or me, you know, thinking, you know, I'm playing here and I already played there. And uh, so I had to like do my research and just kinda get all my stuff together and you know, have my lawyer look into this. And once I found out who the person was and uh, you know, so the lawyer that I had, he went and investigated and you know, reached out to their party and um, basically was like, you know, in the lawyers hands back and forth with the gentleman and his, his party and uh, and it became like, you know, some issues with some, you know, they thought they thought it was a joke this and show me sending this, having a lawyer send a cease and assist letter. Twenty years. Well I think they didn't want, they take it too serious because being in Dallas, a Dj and a look at it like I was a rapper and they didn't make. It didn't look like there was something that was gonna interfere at what their client was doing. And I'm like, you know, adding see a Darwin because I'm an artist just like this person's an artist. And in my new, you know, now you got Djs, data rock and roll stars at the town, new aren't, you know, and when I was it, there was no dj sections and the no Dj section in the record stores, you know what I'm saying? I would say in the guitar center stores, you know, you walk in the Guitar Center, now you have all dj section, you know, so, so, you know, that was kind of offensive, you know, like these guys I go to professional lawyer, you know, like mind you, I had professional people trademark my name, protect, make, looking out for me and you know, make it so my brand is protected. And then I get someone who, you know, a friend Jen on my name and then I show them all the evidence. This is what, this is, what this happened here, this happened here, you know, you know, just covering all my dots, making sure more good before I come after you know, this person and you know, and see how we could just, you know, uh, be able to sell it this day. You know? And, and one of the days I was looking forward to them wanting to either change the letter, you know, instead of log, it could've been log a k log of x, you know, you could be logic. I don't know, I just didn't want you to have something that was already established and cause confusion. Yeah. They didn't want to do that. And you know, the reason why I probably didn't want to do it because at the time, uh, you know, there's other artists was already about to be signed or he was signed to a major label label def jam. So, you know, and, and bases, you know, say David Against Goliath at that point. But I still, I still, yeah, def jam and three other law firms, you know, do three law firms that didn't, you know, my name in, you know, me as an rs, stood up against them, you know, would we, would be able to stand up against. I mean, I went, I still went forward with it, you know. And uh, you know, I had a lawyer that don't have my best interest. One. Lloyd was the first lawyer that helped me with my trademark. He couldn't do it because it was a conflict. Adventurous, you know, the other guy. No, you know, these, you know, these law firms, everybody, the music industry, so they work together so he can work with, uh, with me at the time it was, you know, it had been a conferences with his firm. Right. So he's a good friend, you know, and uh, understood where he was coming from. So I had to go outside and look for outside trademark person that understood what my situation was. And uh, like I said, you know, I had all my things in order for this lawyer to help me out with what happened. So you had all your papers together? Yeah. You hired somebody and they hired a guy that. I do. It would be good in this minute. This was all and going down in Detroit, Michigan or Detroit wasn't in New York and in New York, you know, I've gone a bomb. There wasn't, it should've been in New York where, you know, I just kind of went on a, a hookup to someone that took turns to this guy. So I, uh, use this guy and uh, this guy would be a good person who had my best interests and stuff. And uh, yeah, he just Kinda, I don't know, he just Kinda just railroad me, you know, just it didn't, uh, it didn't turn out being with a expected and uh, you know, had all evidence, everything that they needed, paperwork, everything that's show proof. Then all my tours through the years before this person even started rapping, you know, saying this first was in diapers and uh, and also this person was under a different name at the time when he started. So he was using a different name before. Yes. Before psychological, psychological creator, you know, he has been career, you know, it was a really creative gentlemen and you know, and, and hip hop, you know, be creative, you know, a cool, catchy though things. So

Speaker 2:

now you're at an impasse, be filed all of your information, right? You have your lawyer and you issued

Speaker 5:

cease and desist and at the time they didn't honor it, they didn't honor it and also at the time when I sent it to them, they, you know, they didn't even have days they shit together, excuse my French, because they're like, oh, we didn't trademark the name logic, so they were going to try to trademark the name logic and got denied because I had the name already trademark, so I was like, hello. So I'm thinking, okay, we'll probably go back to the table and discuss what happened with the court. Well, the court, it wasn't in my favor and as well as the lawyer too, you know, something, something wasn't right, something wasn't right. And they also didn't feel right. You know me.

Speaker 2:

This was local court, right?

Speaker 5:

This is like a, uh, like uh, the Michigan, you know, court system, municipal realia. Um, I think it was like a federal, not federal, a good with all of this court thing where I'm saying is what I'm asking.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So you went to the local court and they didn't ruin your favorite. Why did you take it to a higher court?

Speaker 5:

Oh yes. Well, I did. First I had to get rid of that first lawyer who kind of, you know, took my money and ran. Um, then I had to get another one who took my, took my case on the contingent. There's a second guy and he saw us things that, you know, that look right from the first guy. Like. So it was some, it was some stuff going on there. I don't even know. And like I said, you know, I never been in this situation before. I'm thinking that, you know, these people have my best interests and you know, like I said, I did everything right by trademarking it the right way and I got another lawyer who he was, he also was going up against them and you know, we did depositions and we did, um, you know, just sat down and back and forth, you know, emails and stuff like that, you know, just trying to,

Speaker 2:

I don't understand. You had this name for 20, 30 years, right. And someone else, and then you copyrighted, trademarked it, and then someone else comes on and says, calls himself logic and he's a big hit. And so they don't honor your court documents. They don't honor your agreements. Right. I don't understand that.

Speaker 5:

I don't understand it as well. And uh, you know, so, you know, this went past, you know, it went from one judge to three judges and they wouldn't, they wouldn't look at it. And then, uh, then I had to go, you know, once, once I went to.

Speaker 2:

So all of that stuff, I had to find another attorney who was good for like, because I was going to take this to the supreme court and that's what I did. He took it to the supreme court where a Dec Action Supreme Court.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. And I had a lawyer, you know, kind of present that to see what the Supreme Court will pick this case up and look at this case because it was just unusual because all the outcome was coming back from, you know, the previous cases and the previous cases, it didn't make sense. And they sit in the, went that it went the way it did because I sort of had to do

Speaker 2:

jury trial and the other guy, the jury trial, so that right the right, that right. They made things and made things because they've been, you know, a bunch of music trials. I mean, like most recently, uh, to memory for me is the trial between the Marvin Gaye family and I'm Robin Thicke. And what's the other privilege producing and uh, was a Tia Tia. And they lost. Yeah, the evidence was there. I don't understand. You have a name that you trademark dj logic and then someone comes along because himself logic

Speaker 5:

and then friends don't my mark and you know, and they tore it off the market, step toward him and pay those same venues I play. So I'm like, I'm in.

Speaker 2:

So what's the resolve? Is there any resolve it now

Speaker 5:

it's, you know, right now the supreme court didn't take it. So I have to go back to square one and see where, where, and what happened if, and if the people who represented me, you know, represented me. Right. You know, and you know, so I'm just like, I'm in a rock and a hard place because I already spent a lot of money, you know, and uh, just trying to just kind of forget all my stuff back in order as it affected your ability to continue. I mean, yeah, in a way because you know, the principal, you know, as the principal, you know, I planning to see I was taught and all these markets and I know it's confusing people. You know, I just saw this name here, so the same thing. I even had family members hit me up thinking that I'm going to be on a festival that I'm not going to be another festival on, you know, and yeah, it just hurts, you know, as the principal, you know what I'm saying? And it's something where I think it could have easily been settled, you know, the right way and I could just continue doing their thing. You know what I'm saying? So. Well, I, I think, you know, the name logic is, is a very, you know, well named catchy as well as you know, there's a job. Yeah, a program logic software and then there's, I think there was, what's the cigarettes? The cigarettes. Yeah. I mean you can logic everywhere. Everybody's in a campaign or whatever, but you know, and you know, you know, that's why that's changed. Things have changed, you know, and, and that's the thing, when I looked up the name, I was just like, wow, this is cool, this is good name. And I looked at music being logic, you know, music is logic and, and you know, what I was doing, you know, cooperate in my mind, speak my instrument, the turntable with live musicians and doing an Improv, doing improv. And I thought that was the logic, you know what I'm saying? Just being able to Improv with these jazz musicians and grabbing up and things like that on the fly and getting them in key, you know, as close to key as possible to, to express myself to the people you know. Here what I was saying, you know what I'm saying? So who haven't you worked with that you would like to work with? Huh? Wow, that's a lie. No. Uh, let's see.

Speaker 6:

Charge forever.

Speaker 2:

Who are some musicians today you would like to do a live show that you have had the opportunity to do that?

Speaker 5:

Uh, yeah. I love to do something with a c. Oh man, something man. I've done something with prints. Done some with a.

Speaker 2:

let's see. I mean, you know, I can, I can name a million people, but the fact is, is somebody that you, that you listened to, you said that I could bring something different to this person. You listen to somebody that's doing something today. Whatever you say, man, if I worked with him or if I work with her, I could really set her off because of what I would bring to the table in my vision. What it is that I do. Is there somebody that like to do that with?

Speaker 5:

Yeah. Different vocalists, you know, listen, you know, like Solange Knowles, uh, uh, guide, uh, who, uh, let, let me see. Uh, Layla, do you know what I'm saying? All female vocals. Bruno Mars, you know, Anderson Park Addison.

Speaker 2:

Hi. Hey, please.

Speaker 5:

And I just, the album, you know, it was a good album from Malibu's. Good from beginning to end. You know, it usually all, you don't get a record week ahead from beginning to end. Yeah. You skipped through it.

Speaker 2:

The thing that's changed too. Yeah. I mean before artists would make projects that they've made the albums that like every joint on the album was killing like you, that that's a great album. But now there's only two or three times on there and you buy a whole lot and you said, man, I could have just bought the singles in different words. What advice is there any advice that you would give young Djs or you know,

Speaker 5:

my advice is definitely be open minded. Um, keep, keep perfecting your craft a asks questions going to go out and, you know, see other djs and um, see what they're, what they're using, what they're up to, you know, with their vibing to stuff like that. Um, have you heard shy new or is the new device or something like that you would want to incorporate in your presentation that you'd like to get your hands on a changed the game. Wow. I mean there's, there's some new mixes and stuff that's out, but you know, like from pioneer and Serrato and stuff like that, these new coming up with stuff every, every year, sending others, working with Cork, you know, the first chaos pad when that first came out, I was introduced to that, a piece of equipment when I went to Japan with Midecky Martin and wood and they invited me to the factory. So that was like a, a big staple until this day is still a staple with me in the studio as well as on the road. Um, the Cord Cord, one cast pad kit kit. Okay. Oscillator, KP, you know, all the, the Korg keyboard stuff as well. You know Jerry Volesky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh, yeah I just love this stuff they put out and they always keep, you know, keep it, keep revolving and looking at with the work with the musicians. And the Dj said that's it. That's the thing I like, you know, so.

Speaker 2:

Well we'll have something coming out towards the end of this year. The project that we did second 2004, which is Kinda cool. Is there any other new things that we can look to from you that you were working in works now or.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you could look at and hopefully come out with a new DJ logic wreck as well as a project logic record and project logic. Actually, we just played the Newport jazz shit. I said that was, that revolved around those with Keon Harold on trumpet. We had jellyroll saw on sex. We had Mondo neon on base. Uh, Marcus Gilmore and jobs. Yeah, it was, it was, uh, I was a high band for the Newport and a vernon. Reid was a guest. So Guitar James Hird on keys and that project last

Speaker 4:

in Georgia.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. James is in Georgia. Yep. And project logic, you know, it's a revolving bang. You know, I look at it like back in the days of the CTI era, you know, you know, you get cast like yourself, you stepped out of your element from, you know, playing jazz or whatever, but just being you and playing music, you know what I'm saying? And uh, these cast at all have different things going on and the music, you know, styles of music and you know, I just had this vision with like seven. I'm already producing it life, you know, so these are the cast that boom, I could go in a studio and I know how to turn something,

Speaker 4:

make some magic. Right. It's interesting how music has become segregated and music has never been saying no. I mean like the black keys keys in order to. You play them both. That's when the man I'm really music. Yeah. So, you know, I think that the attitude, I guess if it's changed needs to get back to a point where music is not defined by a particular genre or style. Right? I mean like what it comes out to be his music, right? That's it.

Speaker 5:

Music and that's it. Yeah, that's it. And it was when people catch wind in the air, that's what they love you. They love, you know,

Speaker 4:

it's been a blast man. And as always, you know, when we speak musically, yeah, we make some great music and you know, there's gonna be some great music coming out later on this year that we did. And uh, everybody always keep your ears open for project logic. Dj Larger. Yes. Peace. Peace. Thank you.

Speaker 3:

Hey everybody, lenny white here again, and thanks for listening. Stay tuned all summer for new podcasts coming from the iud university. For more information, visit our website at[inaudible] dot com. And that's spelled y o u w.com. See you next time.