0108 Sir Gene Speaks with Dude named Ni**arificEnergy

Transcript

Gene: 0:14

this is Sturgeen, and today I've got a special guest, and, um, because of the way your name is spelled, I'm gonna ask you to say your name.

NiggarificEnergy: 0:24

I am niggerific energy. Um,

Gene: 0:29

chill. Niggerific Energy is the name of this person, or at least the Twitter name, right? Or the X name. Um, I don't know if you go by that in any other forums or whatnot, but certainly that's how I, I met up with you or, um, saw you and liked some of the stuff you were posting. I think you liked some of the stuff I was posting. And then I said, Hey man, we should chat.

NiggarificEnergy: 0:49

yeah, it's it's funny. I'm, I'm trying to go by that, but I have three kids, actually one on the way. So, we'll see, we'll see if I can get, get away with it, but I doubt

Gene: 1:00

Huh. See how long you can go before somebody says, wait a minute.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:04

Yeah, I don't know.

Gene: 1:07

You know what they say though, if you wanna change the negative stereotypes or whatever associated with it, it's just All it is is a manner to start using it, that's all.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:16

Right, for sure. Flipping on its head. The same way that, that Blacks started flipping nigga on its head. I, I honestly it's about the intent to me, honestly. All of my white friends say it. Um, and every time I talk to Black people about that, the only people who actually have a problem with it are the women. Um, like my black guy friends all have white friends that they all allow say it. So it's it's definitely like racism I think is solved in the, the back alleys and then the streets and, and, and the alleyways of America, but it just isn't like from a national perspective because it's convenient for some people, you know,

Gene: 2:01

Well, it's useful, I would say.

NiggarificEnergy: 2:03

Oh, for sure,

Gene: 2:04

Yeah. It's the people that keep insisting that everybody else is racist are actually the ones that are racist.

NiggarificEnergy: 2:13

Yep. For sure. For sure. They,

Gene: 2:14

tell that very easily by their behavior. And the way that they constantly are seeing race and color and background and ethnicity, where none of the rest of us see it. Yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 2:32

think that there are like a small subset of people, and I grew up in this because I grew up in New Jersey, um, in the inner city, so there are a certain subset of, of blacks who still believe the narrative that, that people are just out to get them, like I have family members who will not talk to me because, and, and I mean, I was talking to them, put them in like a, a group to teach them Bitcoin, And like I'm retired at 33. So I'm trying to teach you how to like, be better and stuff. So, and then like immediately found out that I was going to vote for Trump and cut me off immediately. You cut off your chance at early retirement because you're so mad at Trump because the media told you to, it's like, it's a

Gene: 3:22

no reason.

NiggarificEnergy: 3:24

Yeah, for sure. It's it's a brainwashing

Gene: 3:26

And given the guy's been basically a Democrat. For most of his life,

NiggarificEnergy: 3:30

I know that's the thing.

Gene: 3:32

ran a Republican out of convenience because the Republicans let him and the Democrats were up in arms in no way.

NiggarificEnergy: 3:39

absolutely. Yeah. Like

Gene: 3:41

didn't care. He would be fine running as an independent.

NiggarificEnergy: 3:44

That's some of the tweets and some of the messaging that I've heard from you that I definitely agree with on Vivek, like he's just like far more conservative than Donald Trump is, and like Donald, people forget that like Donald Trump, he basically insulted his way into the presidency and then tried to cut deals with all the people who just cut him out. So like it just like your people are trying to vote for this person who. First off, there's a narrative around Vivek where like you can't trust him because he sounds like Obama. Or you can't trust anybody who sounds like anybody who's smart or whatever. But it's like Um, but people just don't look at like Donald Trump came into office talking about, he's going to cut deals with all these people. And then eventually they just got him out of office. Like he wanted to drain the swamp and the swamp drained him. So it just, um,

Gene: 4:41

I think Trump greatly underestimated. The, um, the skill, I'm going to give him credit of politicians to lie, cheat and steal.

NiggarificEnergy: 4:57

For sure.

Gene: 4:57

used to business people doing that, certainly around New York. You're, you're neck of the woods there in Jersey. Um, but you know, so he, he kind of knows some of what the game is like, but politics is a whole nother level of lie, cheat and steal. And I think Trump assumed that he was very good at dealing with people like that from his business dealings and certainly because of where most of those were, where he started. Um, where he made a lot of money, but Washington DC isn't the swamp figuratively, it's the swamp literally. And those folks that have been there for many years, they know what they're doing.

NiggarificEnergy: 5:42

Yeah, for sure. And they, they, they also have no shame so like a business from a business perspective, if you start messing up in business, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to curse on this podcast or not. I'm sorry if I

Gene: 5:54

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

NiggarificEnergy: 5:56

But yeah, if a business starts fucking up the market will make it pay. So there's no shame in politicians because they're so The amount of people who can, um, come into politics and say that they're on your team is a lot easier to get to. Then the amount of people who are leaving your party. So it's they don't care about being true to anybody in their party at all, because more people are coming in, especially on a Democrat party, cause it's easier to make them than it is to make conservative people. Um, but yeah, there's just like droves and droves of people to come in. So like anybody who has an argument or anything, that's a problem with the. The left or the right. They have like ways to just squash out those particular pieces. And that's just sort of where the libertarian slash Progressive people are. And that's like where I, that's where I was before. Like I grew up traditional Democrat and then I got so pissed off at them, not doing anything that I just became progressive. And then I realized that there's kind of like two sides of the same coin. I went through sort of the same awakening that a Jimmy door is going through now. So it's it's kind of funny that like people who are mad at the government, the establishment versus non establishment are. are a lot closer than what the middle people in the middle tend to be are.

Gene: 7:28

It's, and this is, so I I've been I'd say. Libertarian minded pretty much since high school. And, cause that's when I first started reading Anne Rand books, was in high school and realized that, holy shit, this, this totally aligns with what I believe. And this, this is where I think the libertarian quadrants, I'm sure you've seen the diamond before, that kind of, you answer a bunch of questions, kind of tells you where you fit on the diamond. Is a lot more accurate than the left right, which is typically what's used in the media is like everything either belongs on the left side where you got the progressives, the liberals, democrats, socialists. Or the right where you have Nazis. And that's kind of the, it's all they do is they just separate into those two groups. And depending on how you talk to, obviously they're going to make one side sound worse or better, but with the libertarian diamond, um, when you answer those questions, you can see that. You can have an authoritarian right wing person and you can have an authoritarian left wing person. You can have a libertarian, very open minded right wing person. You can have a libertarian, very open minded left wing person. So adding that extra dimension really tells you a lot more about the person taking the test or the candidate that you're looking at. Because there's, you know, you can have arguments about what's better left or right. But I think when it comes to authoritarianism, it's pretty hard to make the case that that's somehow better.

NiggarificEnergy: 9:00

I know. I agree. And I think that like conflating, it's really easy to conflate those things because it's harder to get people to think in fours than it is to get them to think in twos. And it's just um, and you can see it in the left. Rhetoric so far. It's like good versus evil. I think the right does this a little bit too, but I think to a different degree But the left is more like good versus evil This guy is like literally the devil or voldemort or whatever. They're far better at messaging to their people

Gene: 9:35

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 9:36

um who is good versus who is bad and putting up figure heads in order to try to Either put up a dichotomy between the two or conflate the two, you know, so I think that it's the from from the left's perspective. They are, they're far better at galvanizing their people and giving them something to fight against.

Gene: 10:01

Well, and, and to be fair, it's easier for them to do that because their people tend to not be as intellectually developed. I'm not gonna say they're stupid there. They could very well potentially become intelligent, but there's certainly people that haven't spent a great deal of time investigating reality and are just willing to repeat what's on CNN.

NiggarificEnergy: 10:25

Right. Yeah, they're perfectly willing, as you said, to just allow people to think for them. I, I know quite a few people who their Facebook posts will say, um, Oh, I, I, I can't wait to see what the news says about this. I don't want to think, you know, like it's, it's so weird to me as a person who constantly thinks about every little thing that like, um, people could just allow that to happen. But like Kierkegaard said, like anxiety is the dizziness of freedom. I think that was Kierkegaard, but yeah, the anxiety is the dizziness of freedom. So these people just don't want to think because it actually, it almost paralyzes them. That, that freedom, the amount of choices paralyzes them into a stillness that they can't comprehend. And I think that that's where the anxiety comes from. And people are softer in nature now in terms of being American. So it just, um, freedom

Gene: 11:28

they, they much prefer living in a Kafkaesque scenario, I think.

NiggarificEnergy: 11:32

Yeah. Please, please decide everything for me. And that I think is, as a libertarian, I think it's something that we have to, to solve. Right now, we basically just have to hope that we can push the Overton window from conservatives where we want them to be, um, sort of fighting from within. And I think that that's where we'll have the most power as of right now, but we'll, we'll see what happens.

Gene: 11:58

Yeah. I mean, right now I'd say the change that we're seeing happening. In more people getting red pilled, more people realizing just how crazy and nutty some of the ideas of, in fact, most of the ideas of the left actually are, I attribute that a lot less to the conservatives actually succeeding and a lot more to the liberals going so far overboard that they're leaving more and more people behind that are going, wait a minute. I thought, I thought we were against this. Now we're for this. We're the war party. Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 12:34

yeah, I, I totally agree with you. Even my journey to, from all the way to the left, to where I am now, more libertarian leaning, going all the way right. And then coming back to where I am now, it's It had mostly to do with my business aspect and what I was learning about business. It had almost nothing to do with conservatives convincing me that their ideology was better. You know, it just was convenient because all the people who I looked up to happened to be, you know, conservative minded. So it's just and they were conservative with their wallets as well. So it just like sort of happened by. Osmosis, but it's not like they, they didn't, they never reached across and got me. And I think that that's a big messaging problem because they definitely reach across and get to the youth for sure.

Gene: 13:29

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 13:29

I know so many conservative, older conservative people who raised liberal children. So it's you're, you're not even like putting, pushing together your own ideology for Towards a better, you know, it's, it's tough.

Gene: 13:45

Well, as much as a lot of people on the right, love to rag on Ben Shapiro because, you know, he's um, he's a war hawk and he's too much pro Israel. And that idea, you know, ideas don't care about your feelings unless it has to do with Israel. There, there's a lot of negative stuff floating around them, but I will say this. Or the years that the guy was doing his college campus tours. He did more to open up the eyes of students than just about anybody who's actually making money from conservatism because he was challenging the ideas that the students were taught. And even if one out of a hundred of the people that saw him started thinking a little more is well, wait a minute. Yeah, I thought that I thought the Democrats were against war. How come we're the party of war now? Even if one of those started thinking about it, well, that's one more person than would have otherwise because most of the conservative messaging. They don't even bother addressing the youth. They're just giving up on, on young people and just said, yeah, well, they're all liberals. What do we do? Nothing.

NiggarificEnergy: 14:50

No, I, I totally agree. And that's, that's where I focus all of my money. I don't even watch Ben Shapiro show, but I do have a subscription at daily wire, even though I don't use it. Um, like it. People who, like Scott Pressler, I give money to Scott Pressler, I give money to, um, Turning Point USA because they are out there trying to reach the youth and I can see the ripple effects happening in, in rap music, I can see the ripple effects happening in small black communities across America. I

Gene: 15:24

By the way, Ben Shapiro, number one rap artist in the country.

NiggarificEnergy: 15:27

that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You know, the song, honestly, in my heart of hearts, I can't say that it's a good rap song.

Gene: 15:36

It's crap, man. I bought three copies of it just Just to support him, but it's total crap.

NiggarificEnergy: 15:42

My man. I know. That's awesome. Yeah, I do the same thing, and I heard that you also support, um, Tim cast all their songs as well. I do the same thing. I don't listen to that kind of music at all. I've never listened to any of the songs, but I buy them because it supports the cause of what I want to build. Like I have to you have to build a parallel economy because if you don't They're, they already have an economy and a machine behind them that keeps pushing out money. And that's why, like, why, why is there so much money getting people to buy off like these influencers and buy off politicians and stuff? How did, how did they get all that money? Oh, well, they got it from having machines on the back end that's just pouring in cash to the DNC. I mean, it's just, it's unreal. But yeah, it's That the RNC is not fighting for that at all.

Gene: 16:39

got somebody running the RNC right now. Rona, I forget her last

NiggarificEnergy: 16:44

Oh,

Gene: 16:45

It's

NiggarificEnergy: 16:46

McDaniels or whatever.

Gene: 16:47

you couldn't, you couldn't ask for someone who has been better to the Democrats than her for the last four years. She's just completely made every decision against actually what conservatives want.

NiggarificEnergy: 17:02

She, she might go down as next to Nancy Pelosi as the best Democrat ever in the history. I mean, no one. Further the democratic message than than her like better than she did like she had no fight against any of the nonsense there. They're cutting children's genitals off. We can't fight against that. Are you kidding me? You can't mount a defense against that.

Gene: 17:29

Yeah. There used to be a big outcry. I remember, you know, even just like 10 years ago against the practice of girls getting circumcised, you know, their clits getting cut off. In Muslim and African countries because it's tradition, right? It's, it's historically what was done. They're still practicing it. A lot of people. And then the Americans were all outraged. And it's again, the same liberals were outraged about it. Soon as it starts happening here. Oh, no, no, no. You got to. The choice of the child, regardless of what anybody else says. So if the child wants to mutilate themselves, have their genitalia chopped off, well, you got to respect that because you know, the child knows what's best for them. They don't know what cereal to eat in the morning, but they know what's best for their sex and their future.

NiggarificEnergy: 18:12

yeah, that's a, that's a great point. That's wow. Very powerful,

Gene: 18:18

It it's crazy. It, and then the fact that people are willing to accept it again, it's almost like we're watching 1984 being performed in real time, because, you know, that was the. What the expectation of the party was in that book that when facts about the past change, people just adapt to it and pretend that that's the way it's always been. And that seems to be what the the left side has been doing is a hell, even the right side, they're going along with it. Is there just pretending that things that are right now, norm have always been, it's no. No, that's definitely not the case. And I remember always when I heard this, this kind of argument that, well, you know, Democrats always supported the minorities. So it was really the Republicans that were in the South and really the Democrats were the party of Lincoln. And then the parties just kind of changed names. And I just thought, what a bunch of bullshit. Now I'm starting to think, well, if the Democrats are the pro war pro large corporation party. Well, shit, it's happened right here in the last five years. Maybe it's happened before as well, where the name stayed,

NiggarificEnergy: 19:33

Right.

Gene: 19:34

actual practices completely flip flopped around. And I'm not, you know, justifying saying, well, it wasn't the Republicans that the Lincoln was part of, but you do kind of wonder, it's like, how often can people just stick to a name Republican or Democrat without really giving a shit. About what the tenants of that name today are, because they're very different than what they were. You look at the Republican side, similar thing. Right now, you know, I, having marriage for gay people is part of the standard sort of accepted Republican party platforms there. I don't think there's any States right now where the Republican platform includes that marriage is only between a man and a woman, maybe Utah, that might be the only state, but you look back 10 years ago and that was a major change that happened now. I have never cared because I've always been libertarian. I'm like, frankly, government ought to stay out of marriage. It's none of the government's business, whether you're married or not, or how many wives or husbands you have.

NiggarificEnergy: 20:39

Yes, sir.

Gene: 20:41

But it's, it's like change is happening. But yet people keep sticking to the old familiar label. Is it a D or is it an R?

NiggarificEnergy: 20:53

So I, have you ever read the book tribe?

Gene: 20:56

No, I

NiggarificEnergy: 20:57

Okay. So there's a book, it's called tribe and it basically talks about how. Human beings, they, they basically need to be in a tight knit, small group. When they get into larger groups, that's when chaos starts unfurl. But the, the problem that we have now is that if, if people step outside of the norm, they get beat. Almost to hell. So and they know that so they would rather feel like they're a part of the inside, even if they have to deal with or listen to or agree with nonsense, as opposed to being othered. And that's what really people human beings have a longing for togetherness. And that's like really tough to, um, To break through, especially on the Democrat side, conservatives, they will spite each other for anger. I mean, they'll spite each other for pride, but more often than not, they'll just simply spite a person if they don't believe in them, if they just like. Like I've seen so many times like I've looked at, I try to look at everybody's individual argument on their merits, despite the fact that I have my own opinion. Um, so like when I looked at all the people who went against Jim Jordan, it was mostly because Jim Jordan's for speaker, it was mostly because they just didn't like that he was being put up. It, they, it could have been anybody that they put up in that thing, but like they wanted to spike Matt gates so much that they didn't, it didn't matter to them who. Who they put up, they didn't actually have a person to put up. So it just who knows at that point, they just were so piss finnick or angry. And you don't see Democrats doing that, at least from the outside. They'll have those arguments inward, but then once the clear winner wins, it's everybody falls in

Gene: 22:58

I think they tend to do more deals because you remember back when AOC was going to not support Nancy Pelosi and then a week goes by, they have some closed door meetings. Next thing you know, AOC is endorsing Pelosi for speaker.

NiggarificEnergy: 23:14

Yeah, that made that made what is his name? Jim, what the heck is that guy? Somebody freak out. But, um, Jimmy door that's

Gene: 23:26

Dore. Yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 23:27

Yeah. Yeah. That started to crack him and take him more conservative because he got so tired of progressives just getting the, the washed in, you know, it's really bad that they will just continue to sell out for partisan reasons. And even if you have a young and

Gene: 23:45

Cause he was a Bernie bro. Right.

NiggarificEnergy: 23:47

Yes, he was.

Gene: 23:49

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 23:49

I, I will admit I was a Bernie bro 2016 as well. And when he, my first crack was when he sold out despite being cheated. Like he was obviously cheated. Hillary Clinton got to choose her own electorates. Are you kidding me? And then that's when I was like, Oh man, the democratic process, this is undemocratic as hell. I can't support this at all. And so like when he sold

Gene: 24:16

cheated. I just think they bought him out.

NiggarificEnergy: 24:19

So they could have bought him out. I hear

Gene: 24:21

he got paid for it.

NiggarificEnergy: 24:22

he bought, he bought a bunch of mansions and a couple of other things, I do think that some money was definitely exchanged for that, but the fact that Hillary Clinton got to handpick her delegates who then handpicked her, and that's how the process always worked and Debbie Washerman Schultz got to basically run the DNC as Hillary Clinton's best friend. Are you kidding me?

Gene: 24:47

Exactly. As somebody who worked for her campaign, now she's going to run the DNC. Yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 24:52

oh yeah, so like when when that all fell through, I was like, there's no way I could support this

Gene: 24:59

And, and I will say that Hillary is definitely not progressive. If you actually look at her politics over the years, she was Very much like a, she's she was always a war hawk Democrat, you know, she was always an opposition to a lot of these peace and flower kind of liberals language. Um, I think predominantly, this is my, my personal pet theory is I think the only reason that Hillary had become a Democrat and decided that bill would be a good. Husband to raise her political stakes with way back when was because she got, um, snubbed or something happened when she was volunteering for the Nixon campaign, because, you know, she was a Republican when she was

NiggarificEnergy: 25:51

Right,

Gene: 25:52

And I think there must've been something happened that just emotionally made her say, well, fuck all of y'all, I'm going to make sure you never get elected. And then that was a pivot in her youth. Which made her go the other direction because if you actually look at Things she supported with the exception of, you know, gun control and the things that are just more sort of women related than they are conservative or liberal. A lot of her stances go in opposition to the traditional democratic stances and

NiggarificEnergy: 26:26

agree. I'm looking up this now, but um, I'm pretty sure her, I'm not sure if this has been cleared or not, but I think that her firm or something was, Connected to Watergate, so, um, I think that that's where her original burn with the Democratic Party was and then she just sort of unfurl from there. But I, I absolutely agree with you. Like, when she and I, I was actually talking about this with my wife. Like a week ago when Hillary Clinton ran, she basically ran a Southern strategy. Like she didn't run like a Democrat at all. She skipped all of the Northern states. Cause she thought that she basically had them locked up and then she ran the Southern belt, like she was a Reagan. Republican.

Gene: 27:15

accent changed.

NiggarificEnergy: 27:16

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was it was really interesting to watch. It was, um, but I, I think that because people want to be so ideologically with their group and they forget the long term strategies. I know this because like my mom's a long term Democrat and I'm constantly sharing things with her. Six months ago she was telling me that she was really scared and she's glad that Biden was in office because if Trump was in office. There would be World War III. And I said, Okay. So you thought that the person who started no new wars and ended three or four of them was going to start World War III. Okay, Mom. Gotcha. And then, so Biden starts this new conflict. And so I said, Hey, the world's getting pretty interesting. So, What did you think about what you said then? And she said, I said nothing like that. I said, Well, okay. It's just Deny and deflect and that's just sort of the motto and, and memento of their, their group because there's no shame in, in their ideology anymore. There's no,

Gene: 28:29

they have a group identity. Like the core identity of the person is really Tied to the group. This is why I think the if you look at the whole LGBT alphabet soup. You know, I, I remember when I was going to college, that was really kind of my first, um, experience of seeing organized homosexual groups. Right. So, I mean, I think I, I had a couple of friends that clearly were a little effeminate, but you never know when you were in school, when you're a kid that like, are they just effeminate or are they actually gay? And as it turned out, one of my good friends that we all kind of. I thought it was a little too feminine in high school, in college came out as being gay, but you know, when you're in college, like that's, there's always these groups. It's a lot more out in the open. And I remember back then it was literally just three letters and they were in a different order. I don't know how the hell the lesbians got to the front because back in the early nineties, it was GLB. That was the campus group, which was gays, lesbians, and bisexuals. That was it.

NiggarificEnergy: 29:40

Yeah

Gene: 29:41

and then somehow from the nineties to the two thousands, the, the lesbians pushed over the the gays to the front of the line because they're pushy. And and then started adding all these other letters afterwards. And, and I think it all goes back to this idea that they feel a lot safer in groups because they have a group identity. The individual identity doesn't matter.

NiggarificEnergy: 30:07

I totally agree. I have a very unscientific, that's really interesting, I have a very unscientific view, and let me just know what you think about this, the letters, the letter switching. Lesbians are mostly comprised of white women.

Gene: 30:22

Oh, yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 30:24

You know how they are.

Gene: 30:25

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 30:26

I mean, geez of course, lesbians had to be put first, because they're mostly comprised of white women who have no struggle in the world, other than the ones that they create. So of course they had to go first. So yeah, that's my theory. That's why that's the theory.

Gene: 30:44

They're they're the The level of, well, and I would say not so much white women as American white women, because you go to, you go to Europe and you have a very feminine type of white woman there, you know, the American women are, I don't know what it is, if it's just a cultural thing or the previous generation, the way they were being brought up or whatever, or frankly, I blame Disney for a lot of it with coming out with two goddamn movies that have them being rescued by a Prince. It's no bitch. There ain't no Prince is going to rescue your ass. Cause it's, you're not worth it.

NiggarificEnergy: 31:21

Right. So the value set. Yeah. Yeah. And so all

Gene: 31:25

this entitlement mentality. I don't know. I don't know if you ever watched the show. I, I rarely do, but occasionally I'll catch a clip from this show. The, um, I'm trying to think of what they're called, but it's basically this one guy hosts a show where he brings in. A bunch of girls who all think they're 10s.

NiggarificEnergy: 31:41

The whatever podcast.

Gene: 31:42

yeah, whatever, exactly. And it's you don't need to watch a whole episode cause the clips is all you need to watch of that show. But it is just truly amazing how so many women. That objectively are like threes, fours, and fives all think they're tens.

NiggarificEnergy: 32:02

Yeah. So I, I think that they are, we, as a culture, and I see this on the playgrounds and I, I taught tennis for a decade and a half. So I've, I've taught the,

Gene: 32:16

Tennis, how dare you go against stereotypes?

NiggarificEnergy: 32:20

I know I've, I've, I've been a contrarian my entire

Gene: 32:24

Huh.

NiggarificEnergy: 32:25

so, um,

Gene: 32:27

Well, you didn't vote for Joe Biden, so you're not black. We know that.

NiggarificEnergy: 32:30

Yeah, my skin color changed for a very strange reason, you

Gene: 32:34

Uh huh.

NiggarificEnergy: 32:34

um, I tan really quickly. So he was always going to lose that battle. Um, so I, I've taught all types of all types of kids and I, I raised my kids to be like, Very, very tough because I saw all of the kids who are very, very weak, who are raised by parents who are constantly explaining things to them, asking them questions and treating them like they're a prince or princess and all this other stuff. And so, I saw like immediately giving kids like, like the. Basically, the reigns of the house and the reigns of what's going on in the family. It was a disaster because as soon as they got to my court, they all thought that they could all do the same thing. And there are kids who are not like, I grew up in the inner city in a very, very violent area. So we all knew from a pecking order by just looking at each other, Oh. We could beat that person up or I should sit down because I'm not going to say anything. Cause I'm going to get my ass whooped. So like these kids don't get that. They're just like, I'm

Gene: 33:43

then you get your ass whooped one more time when you get home for being in a fight.

NiggarificEnergy: 33:48

Oh, 100%. Yeah. If I, if I'm in the fight, my mom's whooping my ass on the way home to get your cat. You're 100 percent right. You're catching two L's. You're catching two L's for sure. So you were, you're very tactful with how, who you

Gene: 34:01

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 34:02

but these kids these days, like they'll, they'll go out and fight anybody, you know, get into brawls or arguments and stuff on, on my court or, or anything disrupting anybody's physical sports or whatever. Because they just all believe that they're the most important thing. I had a girl trying, trying to, she took private lessons with me, 80 an hour. And she's trying to morph me into telling her that she's doing a good job. Not oh, you did better than you did before. No, she wanted me to tell her that her job was good enough to go out and beat somebody else. And I'm like, honey. I can't tell you that. I guess it's like you need to get away from me. So I would just kick those kids off my court. But yeah, everybody has this self entitlement. And I think

Gene: 34:52

Oh, it's crazy.

NiggarificEnergy: 34:53

Jordan Peterson says that it's because people are having less kids. So they're taking fewer risks with them. And so every kid is the prince, like we're saying, you know, so it's um, it's a real, it's a real nightmare. It's a real, real nightmare. My kids are special, like my three year old can multiply, and so can my two year old, they can multiply, divide. But I'm a stay at home dad, basically, and so is my wife. So It's, it's different, but we also are constantly pushing our kids to do those things that are different and we never, ever, ever tell them or treat them as if they are. We just simply reward them for their good behavior, you know, it's not oh my gosh, my kids don't even, I don't even, I keep Prince and princess fantasy stuff away from them. They don't watch disney or anything like that

Gene: 35:47

it's not good for a man Let's say creates the wrong impression of reality

NiggarificEnergy: 35:52

oh, it's so crazy. Yeah When they're able to understand that this is a fantasy world that nobody else has to live. I know so many of So many people who like push the Prince princess thing on their kids. And it's I'm watching the kid awkwardly look at me while they're taking photos and 20 people are around them and they're like. doting over this kid and the kid's just looking at me like so awkward from across the room and I'm just like What the heck is going on here? It's like you're you're you're creating monsters Oh,

Gene: 36:30

the problem has been going on for so long that we have adults that act and think the same way And like it to me, it's just disturbing hearing grown adults Refer to you know each other as king and queen. I'm like you fucking nuts. Neither one of you are anything close to that A couple of losers.

NiggarificEnergy: 36:49

I agree. Yeah, like from from a worldly and lively perspective Yeah, you live a better life than kings and queens live at some point in the world, you know but because of technology but to say that That's just to say that you're allowed to have as much fun as a king and queen. And that's only looking at the fun. That's not to say that you had to take care of a kingdom or a fiefdom. That's not to say that you had to make sure that people ate in the wintertime. How many people

Gene: 37:21

people are trying to assassinate you?

NiggarificEnergy: 37:23

right? Right, right, right. Protecting, even

Gene: 37:26

kings and queens lived with that.

NiggarificEnergy: 37:28

just stealing, stealing your stuff. Stealing if I wanted to take your, take over your kingdom, I'm going to go light some of your stuff on fire. I'm going to go take and steal from your smaller end people so that they die in the wintertime. And over time, I'm just going to slowly take over your kingdom. Thanks for you building that, but I'm just going to take that over. And so, I just think that, People don't look at it like okay, this person had an enormous amount of responsibility and that's their thing. Like I hear so many people say, um, they are king and they are queen. And then I look at their kids and I'm like, okay, well your kid's wearing really nice clothes. Let me go ask your kid a question. What's the, what's this color? And they can't tell me anything. Count to ten, they can't say anything. And I'm like, okay, wow. So,

Gene: 38:18

Did you see that video? It's probably a couple of months back of a 16 year old girl who just got a brand new Tesla and she is yelling at her mom. For not giving her a Mercedes.

NiggarificEnergy: 38:35

yes,

Gene: 38:36

Do you remember that video? I mean, that's the epitome of where we are in America right now. It's, it's a fucking 16 year old who got a car that they didn't deserve. Brand new car. That's the, I mean, cheapest Tesla, no matter how you slice it, it's still like 40 grand. And and she's bitching about the fact that her mom didn't buy her brand new Mercedes,

NiggarificEnergy: 38:58

Yeah, I, the kids don't stand a chance.

Gene: 39:05

not compared to the rest of the world. And that's

NiggarificEnergy: 39:07

yeah

Gene: 39:08

I

NiggarificEnergy: 39:09

from a,

Gene: 39:10

you know, we we're, we're watching a major change happening. In the United States and not for the better. And I think what, what a lot of people don't realize they can't envision the possibility is that this is not a temporary condition. The, the growth. That we're seeing of bricks and the change off of the U. S. Dollar as the standard currency of trades is only going to keep moving in that direction. And the the main way that the American quality of life has been propped up for the last 50 years has been as a result of the post World War Two actions. Of creating a global reserve currency in us dollars as that liquidates and disappears as other countries no longer buy American bonds to hold than so those are quality of life. And I think future generations are going to start realizing that the norm isn't living better than your parents. The norm is actually living worse than your parents. Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 40:24

Yeah, I think that's what I was gonna say. This is the first generation that, Is doing worse than their parents did.

Gene: 40:32

Mm

NiggarificEnergy: 40:33

So like they, like we're the first ones who had to go back and live with our parents and. Just to get a reset. So like that, and I completely agree with you that BRICS is a really, really big problem for us. I mean, several countries and OPEC have divested from U. S. dollars, U. S. assets. China is divesting from U. S. assets. They're closing

Gene: 40:59

Yeah, China used to be the second biggest holder of U. S. assets. It's now the 13th.

NiggarificEnergy: 41:04

Yep. Yeah, there are a lot of companies and countries are divesting. Yeah, I have to look at all of this stuff because I trade. So

Gene: 41:11

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 41:12

constantly looking at the market from a completely different perspective. I constantly talk about this all the time with people. I say, if people understood money. Then Democrats would literally have to shoot their way. They would have to start kidnapping kids, people's kids in order to get in the office. There's we would have definitely more conservative people that we have now, but I can't say that the people who we have now would survive, but on a conservative side, but most certainly Democrats would all be fired almost overnight. Like they are there. The average person. Could the barrier between the average person and the stock market gains is literally the government keeping them down. It's like all regulations. It's it's really bad. They don't allow free market capitalism. So they don't even allow people to choose how good companies treat them. So it's I mean, companies could be like, there were a bunch of different, um, Advancements in drive through technology and so on and so forth with COVID would have probably already happened if there weren't caps on the market and barriers for entry for other people to enter into the market. Like if, if there was more competition, there would be a lot

Gene: 42:34

the first thing that happens when somebody is allowed to control the not, not just the market, but can control a segment themselves is they form organizations whose main purpose, regardless of what the claim is, It's to limit competition and limit entry into that market segment. It's true of doctors. It's true of lawyers. It's true of an awful lot of different you know, companies that, that have trade associations that sound like they're there to just kind of promote the types of products, but in reality. They're there to limit competition by getting getting more laws on the books from the government that helps the companies that already are at the top, stay at the top.

NiggarificEnergy: 43:21

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think that like in, in my honestly God, in my dream world, because I understand. Market forces and I understand supply and demand. I do think that there should be a gatekeeper on doctors. There should be a gatekeeper on certain professions because then it would get sort of wonky and out of whack. I don't want to have too many doctors because then it sort of perverts the profession. But, um, I also don't,

Gene: 43:50

But what is

NiggarificEnergy: 43:51

don't think that

Gene: 43:51

No, not, not, not, so this, this actually brings up a good point. Cause I have a pet peeve with doctors. Um, because I think we're going to see certainly moving forward that doctors are basically auto mechanics. For the human body and they work in exactly the same way. They look at references from books. They, they read on studies that, that were being performed by the universities out there and medical centers. And then their job is just to be that gatekeeper that kind of gets the latest info and then decides if they want to provide it to people that are coming to them, that entire job can be replaced by AI. Literally in a matter of years, it's, it's basically already there, except that the AI access is limited to the medical profession, so they can go ahead and utilize that AI for creating diagnoses, but. I think it's within the matter of a year or two, we're going to see a huge decline in the number of jobs available to doctors because you are really don't need them because the AI is going to be doing literally what they've been doing for a long time which is looking at the body of available knowledge for treatments for various conditions. And then looking at the conditions the person has, and then just doing a match. Well, let's try that. See if that works. Cause you know, none of them work under a guarantee. They all work on the, let's try this principle.

NiggarificEnergy: 45:22

I totally agree with you, but that's scary as hell to me because and I'm a swing trader So this is how I think a little bit so like we do actually have the technology for that now I mean we could be sending in blood samples every month to some entity or whatever that somebody trusts but like then it's You get information back that's actually accurate that you need, and probably is better for your health, and will give you a better directive and guide, but like, how, how is that different than Big Brother? How is that different than like the Skynet

Gene: 45:55

you that people with money are doing that right now. Um,

NiggarificEnergy: 46:01

with you?

Gene: 46:02

it's not, it's just not something that's available to most people. Like I did a, a full body. Evaluation about 18 months ago. So it consisted of a full body cat scan and MRI a, um, um, uh, what do you call it, the sound thingy. What's that? Yeah. Ultrasound of, of like my heart's in motion video of that. It's all stuff that's cool to watch. And then a test, the screen for 137 different types of cancers. DNA analysis did, did all that shit costs about six and a half thousand dollars. Obviously not covered by insurance. Um, and then a lot of people will do that once a year and that provides a snapshot proactively. Like what you, you may find literally nothing wrong. You still paid the money, right? When you do find something that isn't causing you any physical problems, but you find it proactively and you realize if I don't treat this, I am going to have physical problems, then all of a sudden that, that cost of the yearly Seems very cheap. If you've got to get surgery, it's going to be 50 to 150, 200, 000. Um, and if you get surgery proactively, it may only cost 30,

NiggarificEnergy: 47:26

So I, I, again, I agree with you, but I grew up on the left and everybody has always told me this type of rhetoric. And if you listen to, I'm not accusing you of this, but if you listen to what Democrats say, they, when they talk about the budget. They always say, oh, we saved$1.2 trillion or$2 trillion over the course of whatever. Why? Well, if you look into it, when they, what they say, is it, climate change or whatever would've cost us this amount of money. But for us doing this action now, and that would save us in the future. Which we all look at and are like, you're bullshitting. So it's so I, I understand what you're saying. And I agree with you in a perfect world. We should be doing those things. And I do think that I think that from, from our perspective. Like we wanted to build the wall. The wall would have cost, let's say between five and ten. Billion dollars. Democrats just spent, they thought it was too expensive, but they just spent 20 billion dollars over the last two years doing what the hell they're doing, and now we have to go deport them, and it's going to cost a lot more money, and then on top of that go build a 5 to 10 billion dollar wall. So it's

Gene: 48:50

Which will cost more now, of course, because of inflation.

NiggarificEnergy: 48:53

of course. Of course. Yeah, it's, it's so awesome. Aren't they great? Um, but yeah, it's, it's, I agree that preventative maintenance definitely, um, it costs less, but I also agree with that's what basically people on college campuses are saying that college should be free. Like, why? Well, because that's an investment in your future. And

Gene: 49:22

that's empirically wrong because everybody's bitching who went to college and can't get a job that they just spent 75, 000 and they can't get a job. So it's not really an investment. It, it used to be when a minority of people went to college, when the majority of people go to college, it's no longer an investment. It's now just daycare for young adults.

NiggarificEnergy: 49:44

I also don't disagree with you there, but I also don't think that, I think that less people were bitching during the Trump era than are bitching now. I think that there are less good jobs now and less jobs that, that you need, that need that degree. But I also think that we have to shift ourself as a culture, but also still like the point of. College should be free based off of preventative maintenance of what we could do in the future. Like it's an investment almost.

Gene: 50:15

Yeah. Except most people shouldn't go to college.

NiggarificEnergy: 50:17

I don't disagree with you there. A hundred percent. It we've, we have to shift as a culture for sure. Only some jobs have to,

Gene: 50:25

and also technically college is free to anyone who wants it to be free through the GI bill.

NiggarificEnergy: 50:33

that's a tough one. So technically that's

Gene: 50:36

choice. If you don't want to have those college loans, but you want to go to college. You, you take the point in your life when you're going to make the least amount of money you're ever going to make, which is in your twenties, and instead of working for that minimum wage job you go into the, in the military

NiggarificEnergy: 50:53

okay, but tell.

Gene: 50:54

for your college.

NiggarificEnergy: 50:55

Tell them to go into the military now, that's always going or, or moving into D. I. that's moving into,

Gene: 51:04

Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, it's getting to a point where they may not allow straight white men in the military at all.

NiggarificEnergy: 51:10

yeah, right,

Gene: 51:14

minority trait to even be allowed in the military before too long.

NiggarificEnergy: 51:18

yeah, so, and, and on before that it was like, like the Iraq, like the, I, I got depth into the Marines and, um, I, I didn't go because I did, I just didn't agree with what, The president was doing, Bush was doing at the time, um, like just bombing a bunch of brown people in countries that I couldn't name and so I had to be in my high school year, 2008, 2009. Yeah, 2008, 2009. So yeah, I just didn't agree with um, with that

Gene: 51:55

would have been Barack Obama

NiggarificEnergy: 51:57

Obama. You're right. Yeah, but like he was was he doing? He was like drone striking a bunch of, bunch of people.

Gene: 52:07

He loved drone strikes. Yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 52:10

Yeah. So like, how do you tell somebody to go into that when maybe their morals don't align, you know, I have tons of respect for military people like the other night I was at the bar and a very nice woman military. She's in the Navy.

Gene: 52:26

Mm

NiggarificEnergy: 52:27

I just bought her dinner. She just every time I see a service person, I try to do something for them, but yeah, like, how do you tell a person? And I, I asked her about that, and she's oh, man, I want to get out every day. I said, I feel for you, sis. But, yeah, like, how do you tell a person that if their morals don't align, you know?

Gene: 52:48

Well, no, that's, that's a very good point. And I don't think that everyone should go into the military. I'm just saying that the argument that you have to go to college A is false. And that college will give you 80 grand worth of debt, no matter what is also false. Like you, a don't have to go to college at all. B if you want to go to college a lot and you're not wanting to have those debts, then you go in the military. And if you can't go in the military because of your morals, well, that's a pretty good argument that maybe you already have all the knowledge you need and you've read the right books. That you don't need to go to college.

NiggarificEnergy: 53:26

Yeah, no, for sure. I dropped out of college

Gene: 53:30

Yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 53:30

ended up retiring before all of those people. So I ended up five a

Gene: 53:35

the list of, of the most successful people in the history of the United States is chock full of people that dropped out of college.

NiggarificEnergy: 53:41

hundred percent, a hundred percent. That's

Gene: 53:46

Steve jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, you, you name it. Guys that are the most successful in the history of the country, all dropped out of college.

NiggarificEnergy: 53:55

it's a different fire that you

Gene: 53:56

Even Zuckerberg. Who's a schmutz, but he's, he also dropped out of college.

NiggarificEnergy: 54:01

Snake. What a snake.

Gene: 54:03

Huh.

NiggarificEnergy: 54:04

But yeah, like it, it's tough. I think that um, for doctors and stuff like that, like if you can pass a certain amount or keep your GPA. I don't know if you saw this, but I think that Ohio is going to start paying students, I don't agree with this why, but they're going to start paying students for good attendance. I think they should start paying them for good grades, not just showing up, you know what I mean? Maybe double the prices, but it's an incentive. Yeah, I know. But like, how did we get to a point in our society where we're paying students? To go to school,

Gene: 54:41

Well, you used to, you, you would be in danger of getting kicked out of public school if you had too many truancies back in my day.

NiggarificEnergy: 54:48

oh, yeah, that's a so it's such a strange place.

Gene: 54:54

Yeah. And again, all of these things that we're discussing that are happening right now, these are all areas that point towards a major decline of the United States in its future. Um, and that's why I think certainly changing the, the president to a conservative one would be a good move. It would help to Remove the acceleration that we're feeling towards a big black hole, but I also don't think that it's going to just automatically reverse the course of the country. Too many things are already set in place that the United States, its economy, its level of lifestyle, its ability to be the world police. All these things all are, in my opinion, they've already gone past the point of no return. These things have Already started to get into a permanent future change and no amount of changing presidents is going to change that course of action. You know, when Saudi Arabia, who was essentially funded by the United States and all the oil fields were developed by the United States and yes, some European countries as well, but really post world war two spending and agreements helped that country become the largest. Really a kingdom, right? It's, it's a Imperial country. It's they, they have a King. They don't have a president. Um, and even a country like that, that has seen so much benefits from the United States. He's joining BRICS. That tells you something.

NiggarificEnergy: 56:35

yeah, for sure. Yeah, I agree with you. We're we are really, really big trouble as a nation. If we don't come together pretty soon. It's going to be rough. And I don't think that. Trump is the conservative president. I think that he's a

Gene: 56:51

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 56:52

And I think that that's why I was really big on the VEC because

Gene: 56:56

Oh, yeah. Vivek is way better than Trump. There's no two ways about it.

NiggarificEnergy: 57:01

yeah, yeah,

Gene: 57:02

have Vivek as the next president, I mean, that would be the biggest changer for the United States ever. But you saw he only got 7 percent in Iowa.

NiggarificEnergy: 57:15

yeah. That's it's

Gene: 57:18

to intelligent people. He does not appeal to people that get their news by watching television.

NiggarificEnergy: 57:25

doesn't even on our side. Like I saw so many people on the libertarian side use the same exact tactics that they, that they hate from the left that are like, Oh, well. This person is just like a status person and that's why they're voting for them. Just listen to what they're saying. Listen to what Trump is saying. Okay, well then listen to what Vivek is saying. You know, it's what are you, what are you talking about?

Gene: 57:50

again, anybody's better than Biden. But although probably not Gavin Newsom, he'd be worse, but you, you listen to Trump and Trump is all about creating stories, stories of talking about how great we are, how great America is, how the future is going to be wonderful. He has zero actual plans. There's not a goddamn thing he said he's actually going to do. It's all. Just saying things that make you feel good. And there's a place for that, right? You can't be a politician without having some of that, but you listen to Vivek in contrast and Vivek's got actual solutions to things, get rid of the FBI. You don't need them as an organization. They're probably. Extra, um, constitutional anyway, like there, there, there's no authorization for the federal government to have them in place. So you transfer some of the agents, you let the bureaucrats go. Boom. You just got rid of the whole agency. You saved a bunch of money and you've made American lives better and safer.

NiggarificEnergy: 58:57

I think that like I call Trump, Trump is the little John of the Republican party.

Gene: 59:04

Mm

NiggarificEnergy: 59:04

He's like, he's you can't name any little John hits, but you know, all the songs that little John was in, you know, like he just, he's the hype man and,

Gene: 59:15

yeah, he's a master of that.

NiggarificEnergy: 59:17

Yeah, he's great at that. But outside of that, like policy, there are several things that like, they just told Trump he couldn't do, and he never investigated whether or not he could do that or not. He was just like, oh, whatever.

Gene: 59:31

and that's the thing. It's like he he's so believed in his Inability to be bamboozled that he didn't notice when everybody else that he brought in like John Bolton Are all doing a circle around of him and they're, you know, like he, he said, we were going to end our presence in Afghanistan and the people that he brought in to oversee the generals said, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, meanwhile, they're all talking to each other saying. Well, he may want that, but we're not actually going to do it. What, how, how do you bring people like that in? That's insane to me. I mean, it's just, it's very frustrating. It's the thing that I think. I believe that this is, this is the worst thing about Trump is that he drinks his own Kool Aid way too much and he is, he's not pessimistic enough, right? I want somebody who's putting on a brave face, but deep down is thinking. We are so fucked. How am I going to get us out of this? And I feel like Trump is the guy that says, Oh, we know exactly what to do. We got it all figured out. All we need to do is just get the votes and we're good to go. And he believes it.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:00:57

Yes.

Gene: 1:00:59

But he's also got maybe another five years to live. And then he doesn't care after that. He's out of here. That's another reason I don't want somebody that old. You know? It's just, there ought to be, and I hate to be the guy that says a generalization, but I kind of feel Like after you hit 69, maybe you should get out of politics, go retire, play some golf.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:01:22

we certainly shouldn't be

Gene: 1:01:23

seven year older making decisions that affect the entire country. You want to be a Vivek type and then have Trump as an advisor. I'm all for that. Listen to the old man. See what advice he gives you. But he shouldn't be the one who's president

NiggarificEnergy: 1:01:39

Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. I just think that people are, people will never go for it because they, they don't, they're not going to read the things. Yeah, they're not going to read the things. They're not going to, even on our side it's just. It's more really kind of screwed, honestly.

Gene: 1:02:01

And that's the thing is like when you start realizing just how screwed the country is even in the best case scenario, then. If you're an intelligent person, what you start to have to start thinking about, okay, world's going to go to hell. How big of an influence can I be on the people closest to me to minimize the damage in that? And you start thinking in small terms instead of big terms. It's not about making America great again, because frankly, That sounds good and ain't ever going to happen. What I'm more concerned with is how do I minimize the suffering to people I know? What can I do to help with that? Because that suffering is coming and that means, you know, being a prepper. That means being, astute in law and politics and understanding what's coming down the pipeline. That means understanding finance enough to know what's coming down. That's going to ruin most people's 401k plans. They're going to lose 80 percent of the value of those. And most people don't do anything beyond that. Um, you also have to not be a complete speculator. You can't keep all your money on a thumb drive in Bitcoin. That's also extremely risky and is frankly prone to be shut down at any minute. Like you're just sitting and hoping that nothing bad happens. And it's also not about keeping a little one ounce gold bricks in your closet either, because everything will become extremely expensive. You're going to have to trade a one ounce gold brick. For one day's worth of food. Cause you know what? No one gives a shit about gold when you're looking for food.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:03:43

So I think that I agree with you, like for our diverse, from a diversification standpoint, need to like definitely up their game. I also happen to understand that Bitcoin makes the people who make real money, a lot of money. So. It's never gonna go away.

Gene: 1:04:09

No. And that's the thing is if you can use anything as a speculative vehicle, right? So, um, it's a, it's just a way to actually make money. The problem is for most Americans is they're counting on. Mutual funds to be their retirement fund that outpaces inflation.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:04:34

Oh, yeah.

Gene: 1:04:35

happening.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:04:36

The regular American is really dumb. But they have this blind faith and blind trust that somebody is going to save them. And that's why I think that people get pushed into government. Because like they they really honestly want a father figure to come and save them. But more than just a father figure they want literally a Jesus Christ type figure to come and save them and that's it's it's really tough to get outside of that

Gene: 1:05:07

I again I just blame movie studios because they've Intoxicated people with this idea that you know that there are magical superheroes out there who will give up their own lives for themselves Just to help you get saved. Now this is such a crock of shit that has nothing to do with reality. Superheroes are the male equivalent of the fairy princess being saved by the Prince. You know, it's, it's unrealistic, it's kids stories, literally, these are comic book heroes. And you've got whole generations of people, including people your age, who are so obsessed with this idea that they literally live their lives as though superheroes are real.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:05:50

I don't disagree with you, but human beings need to be told stories Like from the earliest stories like till now all those stories are the same like I read um jordan peterson's um It's first book maps of meaning and it talked about like the first story ever told by time at and stuff and like all of the stories like hero stories are all the same archetype and human beings just think in those archetypes. So I don't think that you'll ever get rid of them. I just think that the narrative needs to change

Gene: 1:06:26

What you got to realize is there, there are stories meant to illustrate ideas that are too complex for the person listening to the story to understand. That's why they're for children. And yeah, stories is a way that we communicate hopes, dreams, ideas, and history. If you never mature beyond the level of those stories, which unfortunately in this country, we have a whole lot of people that never mature past that point. And you're stuck at thinking that those, those stories aren't just myths. They're not just fables, that they're actual history, that they're actually how things happen. And, and that's a very dangerous thing that leads exactly to the path that we're going down right now, which is a path to America becoming a second world country.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:07:18

for sure. How do we stop it? You think? Because the story has to change. There's no way you're gonna get rid of that.

Gene: 1:07:26

Yeah, well, and, and look, what Hollywood has been extremely successful at doing and Disney's part of Hollywood is in finding things that a lot of people want to see, right? They make their money by selling tickets. Whether those tickets are in person at theaters, like in the old days, or whether they're in buying a streaming media, like they are right now, they're ultimately they're selling tickets. They're always going to repeat the story that is the most similar. So, um, I mean, if you read Jordan Peterson book, um, I assume you read Joseph Campbell's book as well, if you haven't definitely read it, the hero with a thousand faces which tells the, basically the archetypal hero journey story. And it's, it exists for a reason because it's what we want to demonstrate to our children as the righteous path and the reason that it, it really resonates with humans, like you don't have to be religious to think that because you can very easily explain it with, um, evolution as well because the people who didn't teach that story to their children, the people that lived it. Lives that were not righteous didn't get to live. long enough and pass on their genes the way that the people who did. So this, this can be explained either evolutionary or biblically doesn't matter, but it is, it is something that we have as a common, um, you know, a common theme as, as humans is this hero's journey idea. A hero can't be a hero without suffering. A hero can't be a hero without redemption. A hero can't be a hero with selfishness. These are universal truths and, and so if you start making movies that all basically are the same damn story repeated with different people playing the characters, you're going to have sellouts. Everyone's going to keep watching your stupid movies because they're all the same story and they're all a story that resonates with humanity. Um, the problem is that when you tell that story to a child to inspire them, you're achieving the desired result when that child. Goes and watches that story 34 times because they love the characters while they're living in your basement, smoking weed. And eating junk food. They're watching somebody else's story, not their own. that's where we are right now is we're seeing a lot of other countries start to pull away from the United States and no longer aspire to be like the United States. The United States is losing its starring role as the hero. In the hero's journey. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm

NiggarificEnergy: 1:10:28

No, I, I totally agree. And I, I. I told my nephew this, um, over a decade ago, he, he had a little bit of a tragic life. His father was followed by an off duty police officer. And then the police officer, like he noticed that he followed him. And so he stopped the car, confronted the guy and the police officer shot him. So my nephew is going to get a few hundred thousand dollars when he turns 18. And so when he was 10. I, I said, don't be a content watcher, be a content creator. That people don't watch what the people are doing. You create your own content and you have and build your own audience. And needless to say, he didn't do it, but that's just the way it works. But so I asked him, cause like he had to move back in with my mom because his life just wasn't going the way it was supposed to be going. And he's just waiting for that. Whatever money so he can blow it, blow it really, really quickly and be back to the same spot. But so like I asked him like, okay, so I told you 10 years ago to be a content creator and there have been several millionaires made out of that struggle. Where's your money? And he said, that's a good point. So it's and for him, he has time, like he has time, but what he understood now is that people are tracking time no matter what, you know what I mean? So it's, um, it's really tough, but like, how do you think that we solved that or change that message for the new, new generation?

Gene: 1:12:16

I think there needs to be, and there probably will be at some point, I just don't know how it's going to happen, but I think there needs to be a big cultural. Or not even cultural, but really a generational revolt against the digital. Connectivity that like I saw happen from the start that you kind of were born into, um, it may not even be Gen Z. It may be the the double A's. I don't know what the hell that we call the next generation after Z. The, the, I think we're going back to a right. So

NiggarificEnergy: 1:12:48

Neither. No, I have no idea.

Gene: 1:12:50

those kids are going to be, we may start seeing them. Literally a generational shift that isn't trying to have a cell phone that wants to go back to do the stuff that my generation did. You know, I was a kid in the eighties and I know it's, it gets old for some people cause it sounds like all Gen Xers sing the same song over and over. But when I was a kid, I had a key to the house and I would only see my parents for about an hour a day because when I get home from school on the bus. I, I put my school bag away and put on, you know, play clothes and then ride my bike for four or five, six miles to my buddy's house maybe eat dinner at their house and we'd be screwing around and doing stuff outside. We'd be drinking water from the hose. No one gave a shit about pollution. No one cared about anything that the modern parents all seem to care about too much. There were still plenty of people that were trying to be predators to children that, again, it's like, it was not given so much attention that it would affect the freedom that children had in my generation. And by the time you were a kid, like an awful lot of that changed and you weren't, you just didn't have the freedom that I did as a kid to do whatever the hell I wanted and to not be tied down. And if I called my parents, it would be once a day at some point in the evening saying what time I'm going to be home. Like no one tracked my GPS signal. No one could call me anytime they wanted to, if they were worried. It was just assumed that don't make your parents feel like. They got to worry by calling them once a day, you know, stuff like that. So I think we're going to see that in the younger generation, maybe one that hasn't even been born yet to where they're going to want that. And the way to get that is by issuing the technological ties that that most people are tied into today. You know, most people look at their screen time report. If you're on the Apple platform or whatever the Android equivalent of that is, which shows you how many hours a day you're glued to your phone screen. And for a lot of people with full time jobs, that number is 40 hours a week. Like they're working full time, but they're on their phone also full time. When, when are they living? You're still there. Did I lose you?

NiggarificEnergy: 1:15:23

Oh, hello.

Gene: 1:15:25

hello. Did I lose you?

NiggarificEnergy: 1:15:26

oh, sorry. Sorry. I think it got muted for a second. I, I, I agree with you. Um, I just think that from my perspective, I understand this from an anecdotal and also from a macro perspective of teaching a little over 10, 000 kids in five different states. It is far easier to, for a kid to accept helicopter parenting and soft parenting than it is for them to reject that. And so like for me, for my kids, like I just don't allow that to happen. I just I am tough with my kids and all of my kids I'm tough with. but, every, I, even, I have, my I have best friends who don't, um, they don't train their kids to be tough at all. Like they, they, they helicopter parent their kids and that's just, is what it is. I know some fathers who just aren't, and willingly admit this, are not a big part of their kids lives or not a big part of their, like they're physically there, they're making the money, but like their mom gets to decide everything that happens in the household and it's like the dad is so emasculated. That it's like almost the kid doesn't even almost see. What a real man is supposed to be. So I, it's, it's

Gene: 1:16:50

And again, you could point right at Hollywood for that as well,

NiggarificEnergy: 1:16:54

Oh yeah, no, I don't, I don't disagree with you for sure. I just don't, it's tough for me to see that as a solution because, um, the, the people are just not choosing the hard road anymore.

Gene: 1:17:07

but they're not going to have a choice.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:17:09

yeah.

Gene: 1:17:10

nothing else, society is a self correcting system, like all of society, all of human society. Whenever there's a dip to one side, there will come out a corrective force. So for example, as the United States loses its place as a dominant first world country, as our standard of living declines, as through we start dealing, because one of the things I predicted recently is we're going to get to 100 percent inflation, a hundred percent a year. Um, I think it's going to happen, may not happen next year, but it's certainly going to happen within our lifetimes. And or within my lifetime. So in, in less of your lifetime. Um, and I think that things like that, regardless of what people's desires or interests are and how they interact with their kids, it's going to lead. To certain realities that you don't have a choice for. You will have to have parents that work 60 to 80 hours a week. You will not get to see either one of your parents if you have them. And if you only have one parent, you may not have a parent. Because your parent is going to have to give you up for a, um, Either adoption or a a home for Um, you know, Children from families that can't care for them because I think we're gonna get to a point where the average American cannot take care of a child in a single family household. We used to be there. If you look back in the history of the United States for most of that history, the 1800s all the way up through about 1940. A single parent could not make enough money to raise a child. You'd have to give up your children. That's that was reality for America. And I think it's going to become reality one more time. And, and the, the thing that's hard for people to realize is that a lot of the, what Trump would describe as the greatness of America, um, You know, and I want to say the greatness of America to me was in the Founding Fathers. It was in the fact that men were willing to risk their lives to take their freedom from a king and then to create a form of government to provide a level of freedom that had not existed anywhere in the world like that. Is America's greatness, but when most people think, including Trump, I think of the greatness of America is really the post World War Two years. It is really the global domination of the world by America because we were the only superpower that was not affected by destruction in World War Two. Russia obliterated, Japan obliterated, all of Europe recovering greatly from World War II invasions, Germany completely bombed out and obliterated by Russia and the United States. The UK barely survived. There were no countries left. And then South America and Africa and Australia had no population to speak of, like they were not world powers. So America is the only country that was left. Essentially standing without any kind of infrastructural damage. And so by default became the greatest country in the world. And then through some very smart decisions made by people like making the U S dollar, the The global trade currency. Um, we were able to hold onto that much longer than the period of recovery post World War II to a point where you know, certainly up till about the year 2000, up till about 19, 9, 11, the United States was still sitting on the benefits of those decisions post World War II. And, and that's, I think what most people, including Trump referred to as the greatness of America. It's that period of time. The problem is that. Unless we have another world war or some other calamity, like maybe a, a massive asteroid crashing in the middle of Europe and destroying most of Europe, unless that was to happen, and we're just not in a position to do that. We don't have the infrastructure for manufacturing we've outsourced most of our technology. As well as manufacturing out of the United States. We have a tremendous problem with, um, a lot of the brain trust that used to exist in the United States now actually being foreign brain trusts, and I'm not knocking people in other countries that choose to pursue PhDs and get. To be experts in physics and other disciplines at all. I think they're doing the right thing for them. The problem is when you look at the papers that are coming out, the research papers that are from the United States universities, I don't know if you've looked at this, but all you gotta do is pick a random, random paper. You'll see names that are over, over half of them are Chinese. And they're spending their time studying in the United States, getting their PhDs down here, or they're doing post doc work or Indian. There are not a whole lot of scientific papers being published on research that is groundbreaking by people with the last name Johnson or Smith. It's just not happening. And a lot of the people that are coming to the United States for their degrees and are working on the cutting edge research they're, they're not really like immigrants. They didn't come here to escape their, their mother country. They're. Their families are back there, they're going to return there. They're going to work for firms from those countries, even if they live somewhere outside of China, they're still working for a Chinese manufacturing company. And those ideas are going to be benefiting China more so than the United States. So I think there's an awful lot happened in the last 20, 30 years that is going to ensure that the United States does not have that, that sort of greatest country in the world. A field that I did from the end of world war two up until 2000 or so.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:23:30

so you think that we'll be fighting existential crisis and losing number one in the

Gene: 1:23:36

Or you're just going to like best case scenario. We're going to see a stall in our way of life. And you're going to start seeing other countries, some that you may have never expected, like Indonesia. Just pulling way ahead, getting better high tech, having fewer jobs that are paying poor wages, having more of the type of things that the United States used to have, which is an ability to export the dirty jobs and purely focus on the clean jobs. Um, and that that may be happening in a lot of countries that the United States frankly didn't think of as being. First world countries until recently. So the real question is for people that, that have had their eyes open and that have managed to be financially successful to a certain extent, um. Is do you want to find where to live, where to create a home for your children as they become adults? Or do you just want to live in the same place that your parents did, even though it doesn't offer the types of benefits that, um, they had or that you had. When you live there and it's, it's a tough question, but as a child of an immigrant myself I mean, I'm technically, I'm an immigrant. I was, I wasn't born in the U. S. Um, you know, it's, it's a question that people ask all over the world all the time is do I want to stay where I am or do I want to make the hard, arduous journey to go someplace where it may be better for me and my children? And I think most Americans have not had to ask that question. For many, many years, um, probably 200 years or so, because for the 1800s, the United States was a land of opportunity because there was complete, like ultimate libertarian slash anarchist freedom in the territories. If you didn't want to deal with laws of the States, all you had to do was go further West into the territories where there might be a little more lawlessness from the, the, the Indians, Native Americans out there. From raids and whatnot. There might be criminals out there, but also people kind of left you alone and to do with whatever crazy thing you want it to do. Like if you're, if you're into a brand new religion, like Mormonism. You could head out west and then practice that religion without being disturbed. Um, you know, post World War II, there was other benefits to being in America. Obviously, it was the only country that was leading the world in pretty much everything. So, it's, it's a tough answer. It's not one that most people have had to think about in this country, which is, if I can afford it, do I want to have my kids grow up somewhere else and have a better life than they would in this country?

NiggarificEnergy: 1:26:30

So, yes, I agree with you to a certain extent. So we were saying that inflation would get closer to 100%.

Gene: 1:26:38

Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:26:39

Long before that, that's like saying that the market forces were going with basically stay the same. The U S has air superiority, land superiority, and ocean superiority over every other country in the world. We would just start taking people's stuff.

Gene: 1:26:59

Well, yes and no. So the, the U. S. has more natural resources than most countries. Absolutely. Um, you know, you'd have to combine elements of countries in Africa and Asia to get the same level of natural resources the U. S. has. Unfortunately, we've kind of sabotaged ourselves by cutting ourselves off with the ankles to not be able to extract a lot of these resources. To

NiggarificEnergy: 1:27:26

I don't even mean that. I don't even mean the resources, like the resources are the thing, but like we'll just bomb the hell out of anybody and just take that stuff. Like our like military superiority is far superior in both land, air, and sea. I

Gene: 1:27:44

that's just empirically not the case, unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, um, that was the case for a large extent past world war two. But right now both China and Russia have way more missiles. The United States does. Like a factor more the, the C superiority to the United States has, I think is definitely the case. It's not really in question, but you have to wonder, you know, that superiority only exists because it hasn't been put to the test. There have been no naval conflicts since world war two, literally. So we've spent a bunch of money building ships to have the biggest Navy in the world, to have the most advanced Navy. And we do, we have the most aircraft carriers. We have the most battle groups, but it's all happened in the time of peace. The only, the only countries, the United States has really, I don't even want to say gotten to war with, because we officially haven't been in the war. Since world war two, as far as Congress is concerned, but the conflicts that we've had, they've been with substantially weaker countries that are already in the middle of internal struggles. And so we've, we have kind of acted as the police showing up with a SWAT vehicle, literally to a double wide trailer. And can we take that on? Absolutely. We can. Um, the entirety of the U S Navy can be wiped out by several countries right now using nothing but missiles. Like they don't need ships. All they need to do is sink our ships. That, that is not something that can be recreated in one year. If the United States starts acting like a pirate instead of the police. And I know sometimes the difference between the pirate and the police is questionable, but if the United States, like you're saying, Hey, we have the might, we could just go and take stuff. Well, see what happens when you do, because we've always been able to rely on the idea that we're there to help the little guy. We're not there to steal shit for ourselves, even though we kind of did that in a lot of places as well,

NiggarificEnergy: 1:30:06

No one believes that.

Gene: 1:30:07

but we've always managed to. At least pretend to look like we're actually helping. And I think Ukraine's a great example of that, because, you know, ostensibly to people that don't understand history, it's like, well, Ukraine's a country, then they asked for our help and, and, and we've providing the help that they've asked for. That's all there is to it. It's a much more complicated issue than that, but even still, Russia is a country with the GDP less than the state of Texas. Think about that. Just the state of Texas is actually a bigger country, financially speaking. Then the entirety of the country of Russia.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:30:46

Oh, I know it's bigger than most places though. Like Texas is, I think for a while it was number five in the world, like the fifth

Gene: 1:30:53

Yeah. I think Texas is number seven right now.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:30:55

Yeah, California, I think took its place, but yeah,

Gene: 1:30:59

but either way, it's um, you know, Russia has a lot of territory. It has a tremendous amount of natural resources, but it's not, it, you know, it's not exactly on par with the United States in terms of either population size or its technology or its GDP or any of these other things. And yet what we've seen in Ukraine is that all the high tech gear, all the equipment we sent out there. Is getting destroyed

NiggarificEnergy: 1:31:35

okay. I'm going to challenge you on that. Are you ready?

Gene: 1:31:38

go ahead. Good.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:31:40

The superiority for the the U S in terms of missiles and stuff like that. Yes. We are down missiles, bullets, and armor, a bunch of other things. We also. Aren't really in conflict. So if we had a total war, total, the United States looks differently when we're at war, we're making things a lot faster and during almost everything in order to win, win that particular conflict or whatever. Um, so I can't use that as like a, a notch against the air force or anybody.

Gene: 1:32:16

can just, I can just prove that immediately right now. We're not at war. There is no constriction on the supply chain whatsoever. We're getting all the resources we want. And yet we're hearing all these. deficiencies, all these, oh, well, we can't even ship any more you know, Abrams tanks to Ukraine because then we're going to be depleted ourselves here. We were, we've shipped all the uh, you know, whatever the anti air rocket systems that we've shipped out there that we can afford to ship, because if we ship any more, we're going to be below the minimal level set by the army. And there, there is no

NiggarificEnergy: 1:32:51

that's actually sort of my point. That's sort of my point. Like

Gene: 1:32:53

No, but, but

NiggarificEnergy: 1:32:55

We're not

Gene: 1:32:55

yeah, but let me, let me finish where I'm going with this. So. When you talk about total war, even, even pre total war, do you think that there's going to be one thing at all that the industry that produces this is relying on shipped out of China? If that happens, there's not a single system right now that's manufactured that doesn't rely on components that are coming from overseas. Someone from China, someone from Indonesia, someone for, from other countries, from Korea, from I don't think we're actually getting anything from Japan anymore. Um, something certainly from Taiwan. If you're talking about actual war, that's the first thing that happens is those supply lines get cut. It is much easier for China to prevent anything from leaving Taiwan because they're 200 miles offshore than it is for the United States to prevent something. You know, leaving Russia to get to Ukraine.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:33:50

Right. But the original, the original point was we don't have enough missiles and bullets and all this other stuff. We don't have those things because we're not actually at conflict. If we're at conflict, if somebody punches you in

Gene: 1:34:03

If we're at conflict, we won't be able to produce them. So we better have them now while we're not in conflict. Because once a conflict starts,

NiggarificEnergy: 1:34:12

I don't disagree with you that we should be preventative and have preventative measures, but history has shown so, so much differently. We've entered, we entered in a World War II late where Hitler was basically knocking on our doorstep and still managed to beat all of these people back. When you're at total war, you're not making pillows or TikTok dances and shit like that. Like your

Gene: 1:34:35

yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but again, let's look at World War II. Hitler was never at our door. Hitler was a friend of the United States. Henry Ford has a photo of him with Hitler during the

NiggarificEnergy: 1:34:46

To a certain extent, right. To a certain Al-Qaeda was our

Gene: 1:34:48

the only reason United States entered World War II as a military power, not just selling weapons to England, is because of Japan. Because we were now having seen Japan take over the Philippines and take over large chunks of China and Korea. Um, it was becoming evident that Japan's only move forward beyond the territory they were already conquered would be North America. And so we orchestrated the the blockade, which led to the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor, which brought us officially into the war. And then of course we started providing troops to Europe as well as the Pacific theater in that dude, all you got to look at is the number of troops and the number of weapons utilized by America in World War II. And then compare that to the Russians, the Germans and the British. And what you will see is the United States came into the conflict at about 11 PM to midnight. And was able to walk into Berlin having shown up much later than everybody else who was at the dance and suffered very few casualties as a result and didn't expend a whole lot of either men or ammunition to do so. So if the United States would have been in World War Two immediately from the point that England was attacked. I think we would have seen a very different perspective on how easy it was to win World War II. I have full confidence that Germany would have lost no matter what, but honestly, they were already, Germany was already very much on the losing steps from the massive losses they had on the Eastern front and from the fact that as much as we like to make fun of France the French influence in Africa. Was kicking German ass down there as well. So Germany was in the process of losing by the time D Day rolled around and the United States actually came to Europe.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:36:58

Okay. But the, the original point was we had a lack of resources and arms to fight. Did we have, stepping into World War II during Pearl Harbor, did we have enough troops? Did we have enough bullets? Did we have enough

Gene: 1:37:15

we got, we got a

NiggarificEnergy: 1:37:16

didn't have, we didn't have enough of any of that stuff. We turned ourselves into a total war

Gene: 1:37:23

We had a manufacturing base that could do that, which

NiggarificEnergy: 1:37:26

so I just,

Gene: 1:37:26

do not have today. We, we

NiggarificEnergy: 1:37:29

we have the, we have the infrastructure, but we have the infrastructure for that for

Gene: 1:37:34

Well, I'd say we have the raw materials for it. We don't have the

NiggarificEnergy: 1:37:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just don't have the necessary need to, to

Gene: 1:37:42

right? Because we don't have look, it's not profitable for us to make a lot of this stuff here because it would cost, you know, four to 10 times more than importing the components and doing nothing but assembly work here.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:37:56

right. And that's where we get back to the original point, the cost. And this is my point. If, if we're getting to near 100 percent inflation. We're not just going to sit around. We're going to just start taking people's shit. Like it's not going to be like, we have a do you know what do you know what rapid dragon is?

Gene: 1:38:17

No.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:38:18

Okay. So like we have Russia and China have hypersonics that can move. Like they can hit moving targets. We don't have that. We have hypersonic. Our hypersonic can hit moving targets, but what we do have that is air superiority against them is called rapid drag. So we can launch I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of a thousand. Um, basically warheads out of C 17s, just 45 out of a C 17 out of each one. And they can independently hit different targets over, over a thousand targets in five or six planes. So we could wipe basically an entire country. Like you just said, Russia has very, very small, they have very large area, but like very

Gene: 1:39:09

hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:39:10

targets that are actually important. If, if we start to

Gene: 1:39:13

density is just in a few places.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:39:16

Oh yeah, like if, if, if shit really starts to hit the fan, I just think that we're just probably just gonna start taking people's stuff. Russia has like an aging population anyway, they have a population collapse, um, they're not making enough new people and they're just murdering all of their young people

Gene: 1:39:33

Which incidentally, we're not either. The only way that our graph looks better is because of immigration.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:39:42

for

Gene: 1:39:42

you look at the actual demographics with remove the immigrants coming to the U. S. and you look at purely the the gains from children being born in the U. S. Our graph looks very similar to Russia.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:39:53

For sure. It's it's really tough.

Gene: 1:39:57

So you could make the argument that like the immigrants that are streaming across right now are probably good for the country.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:40:06

Kind of. See immigrants before, and we're a nation of immigrants and people said that, but those immigrants assimilated to the American way. These immigrants, and honestly, most of even Black culture does not want to assimilate to the American way. So I think that we have a large swath of people who just absolutely hate. the American way. So it's really tough for me to sit there and say like, when we're not at war, we're like, we kind of hate each other. We like,

Gene: 1:40:41

Yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:40:41

we're at war, it's

Gene: 1:40:42

I know what you're saying. I'm kind of being a little bit of a devil's advocate because, um, It's it's what I do. I can argue any side argument at any point in time. It's what I've always enjoyed and been good at doing. Um, so even if I if I in general would be sitting here nodding my head as we're talking, um, and you can't see me because we don't have cameras turned on. But you know, I may be nodding my head in agreement, but I'm also going to challenge you and bring up you know, the contrary and viewpoint because, um, you can't ignore Things simply out of convenience. And that's why I say you know, I'm in Texas. I'm actually going down to the border to Eagle pass this week with a group of folks. So this, this whole illegal migrants issue thing is very much on the forefront of local politics. However, could I come up with some rational arguments for why this is actually good, at least for some people? Absolutely. That there is a benefit to a certain class within America from importing a whole bunch of cheap labor. And if it's done illegally, then so be it. Cause they don't really care if it's legal or not.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:41:58

Yeah, no, I agree. I, I agree with that totally. And I think that with COVID, COVID

Gene: 1:42:04

You do. Mm hmm.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:42:06

person's, um, work ethic because they were getting like basically free checks. And so like when we came back, like the quality of things built after COVID is significantly worse than things built pre COVID. And it costs you more now too. Yeah. Airplanes. But before

Gene: 1:42:26

apart?

NiggarificEnergy: 1:42:28

before airplanes, you know, what was falling apart? RVs. That's I know a ton of people who have RVs and they're just like, man, anything built after 2020 is just crap, it falls apart, and it's, um, yeah, it's, it's really automobiles the Ford Lightning is costing Ford more money to produce than it is than it's making them

Gene: 1:42:49

And it's not a cheap car to buy.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:42:51

No, no, it's, it's, it's insane. Yeah, they Their economy works however the heck they want it to by just basically saying, Hey, we're going to do this, or we're going to do that. But, um, yeah, I don't, it's

Gene: 1:43:08

think it's a problem. And, but also I think that there are no simple solutions. You, you, you have to look at world politics like a game of chess and not like a game of checkers because, and what I mean by that is every action that you take will have a counter move made by somebody else. And so it doesn't matter which side of the coin you go to, there will be some kind of a action taken by somebody that will piss off somebody. I don't think anybody would have predicted 10 years ago that Saudi Arabia would be joining BRICS. That was not even in the minds of the guys.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:43:55

Yeah, yeah. Bricks is

Gene: 1:43:58

it's, it's a question of just caring about, I guess this is my, my ultimate point in this discussion is, I think the smart move is to just shrink the size of the group that you actually care about, you know, for some people, it may shrink down to the size of their immediate family for other people may shrink to the size of their extended family for other people, it may shrink to the size of your church, But whatever it is, the group that I actually give a shit about today is smaller than the group I gave a shit about 10, 15 years ago. And I think in, in a couple of more years, that number, that size of that group may be even smaller. There are people that you genuinely will risk your life for. And to hell with everybody else.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:44:44

Yeah, that's I try to look at, I obviously look, try to look at the bright side, even though I, I know that eventually the shooting is just going to start. I just hope that we we all can use our Twitter names as call signs.

Gene: 1:44:57

Right? Exactly.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:44:59

I'm a friend.

Gene: 1:45:01

Yeah. Yeah.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:45:03

I also, I, part of how we got connected was the tweet that I sent. Um, what was that with the Civil War thing, right? Did you see that tweet thing? So obviously it's very different than what they thought it was going to be. But I think that a national divorce is probably going to be better than, um, like national conflict, for sure. I do think that once the shooting all starts, it's not going to be As small as your church versus my church, your town versus my town, it's going to be the United Republic of Texas and the

Gene: 1:45:47

I, I agree with that. However, remember Texas has about 45 percent red vote or blue voters in it.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:45:55

Oh, I

Gene: 1:45:56

So we talk about how Texas against, you know, the, the corruption of the United States, rah, rah, rah. Um, however, and, and by geography, if you look at all the counties, certainly most of them are very red, but also the biggest population centers. You know, I live in Austin, which is 90 percent blue. Dallas is probably 65, 70 percent blue and Houston's probably also about 60 percent blue. So what you're going to have in, in cities like that. Is a lot of small group conflict.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:46:31

So I think that with that, it easily gets solved because Texas is its own country, right? Again, right? It already understands that it's its own country. Anyway, I lived there for a decade. So um, I mean, there are counties that like, they don't even. They don't even do what other counties do because or other cities do because they just don't want to, um, but yeah, I think that when it becomes that, then it becomes about being a natural born citizen of Texas and most of the people who are 45 of those 45%. They're all migrants. So like if you're, if you're a nation, an actual country, and then you're going to say you have these borders or whatever, then your laws are going to dictate, sort of like the United States, that you have to be a natural born citizen. So even I probably will not, as a migrant to Texas, will not get to vote, even though I would help the cause. I do think that it would rebalance Texas, who is honestly, every single day, teetering on the edge of going blue, honestly. Um But yeah, I think that it would redistrict everything if you just allowed

Gene: 1:47:40

yeah, I agree with that. But I also, I, I don't think that would happen without violence. I think there will be a lot of violence. I think there'll be, um, you know, there'll be people in cities that get killed for being conservative and pro. State rights, there will be potentially people out of cities that will be killed because they're subversives and are plotting to overthrow the new government of Texas. I just, I don't see it happening without violence. I don't think any revolution can happen without violence. I don't think that's realistic to expect. I certainly don't think the United States is willingly going to allow Texas, which is, as we said, has a GDP that it would be the 7th in the world. I certainly don't think the United States is willingly going to allow Texas, which is, as we said, has a GDP that it would be the 7th in the world. If it was independent to leave the United States and diminish the GDP of the United States, it's, it's not going to happen without fighting. The real question is, will they nuke Texas? And I think there are some people that would say, yeah, let's do that.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:48:42

Okay. I don't think they'd nuke Texas.

Gene: 1:48:46

I hope not, but, but there are definitely people in DC right now that would be perfectly willing to sign off on that order.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:48:55

So I agree with you that there are those people, but in much the same way that you said that if If the United States just started going around being the bully of everything, and history has shown this too, like the riots, like the black riots in Selma, photographs and stuff like that coming back, changed the hearts and minds of Americans. And honestly, I think that I think that what Abbott did by busing the migrants to other places put those migrants in the faces of other people and made their problem and it sort of changed their hearts and minds on the ground, despite the fact that the people at the top are being very ignorant and trying to ignore all of it. The people on the ground know for a fact that the migrants are cashing checks that are supposed to be theirs.

Gene: 1:49:44

Well, yeah, I mean, that's kind of a, it's a, it's a little bit of a, a simplified view of it because they're not here on vacation cashing at 3, 000 check and then going back home. They're literally here for the next 20, 50 years that are going to have an impact on everybody's life for the next 20 and 50 years. Anyway, I also just looked at the time and I realized we've been chatting for quite a while and we got to get this thing wrapped up.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:50:10

Oh, yeah,

Gene: 1:50:12

I really, I appreciate you jumping on here. Um, I I hope everybody else enjoys listening to you. I think it's been a fascinating discussion. We've gotten to cover some topics that I, I haven't had a whole lot of time to cover with my other podcasts that I do. And, um, I hope you enjoyed this as well.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:50:30

I really did. You're, you're a great conversationalist and I really enjoyed the back and forth. You made me think and that's honestly that's what we need more of in the world. We just gotta have people who think and get together, you know.

Gene: 1:50:43

All right. Let's tell the people where they can get you. Is it just a next, do you have a YouTube channel, anything else?

NiggarificEnergy: 1:50:49

I am just on X niggerific energy and see me out there, my wife will be baking bread as soon as we get done.

Gene: 1:51:00

Yeah, definitely. I mean, you've, you've had some great posts. I think I've, I've reposted multiple posts that you've put out there so keep it, keep it going. And, um, yeah, I mean, the, the little thing that we can all be doing is just spreading the message, pointing out the stupidity when we see stupidity and doing an attaboy to people doing good.

NiggarificEnergy: 1:51:23

I agree, brother. Thanks for having me on.

Gene: 1:51:27

Absolutely.