Israel & Rachel Campbell "SOUP" Podcast

Israel & Rachel Campbell "SOUP" Podcast Season 2 Episode 23 Life Lessons from the LA Marathon: Endurance, Spirituality, and Personal Growth

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Strap on your sneakers and prepare for a journey of endurance both on the pavement and in life, as Israel shares the tale of conquering the LA Marathon and the profound insights gained along the way. From the unexpected challenge issued by a church member to the final strides across the finish line, this episode is a testament to setting monumental goals and the sweet victory of achieving them. Rachel, with her quick wit, chimes in on the laughter we shared when a marathon date idea turned into a deeper conversation about perseverance and the communal spirit that empowers us through life's marathon.

Ever wondered how marathon training can mirror the intricacies of spiritual fortitude? We unwrap this intriguing concept, discussing the parallels between physical preparation and nurturing one's spiritual health. Just as customizing nutrition and workout plans is crucial for any runner, we underscore the significance of tailoring our spiritual routines amidst the chaos of life's demands. Whether you're a parent seeking connection or an individual carving out a path for personal growth, this episode addresses the necessity of consistent, sustainable practices that keep us pressing forward, mile after mile.

As the episode winds down with the lessons of the long run, we reflect on the importance of self-encouragement and the pivotal moments when we must be our own cheerleaders, just as David found strength in the divine. Drawing from biblical wisdom, we apply these principles to marriage, parenting, and career aspirations, emphasizing the impact of small yet steady steps. Before we part, join us in a humorous nod to the post-race glow and the respectful retirement of my marathon medal, as we remind ourselves that while rest is essential, the race of life ceaselessly beckons us forward.

Speaker 1:

Hello, hello, hello. We are back with the Campbell's Soup podcast. Yeah, that's all I got to say. Rach, Is that a good?

Speaker 2:

introduction I'm loving your outfit today.

Speaker 1:

Well, I will be wearing this outfit probably for the next week and a half, and I will-.

Speaker 2:

As you should.

Speaker 1:

Everywhere I go Show it. I will be running 2024 finisher. It's kind of my Mr T starter pack with this amount of gold I have. That's real right there. But yes, last weekend I ran the LA Marathon.

Speaker 2:

We need to add you know how they do the applause on this talk show. It's like lots of applause, no, but you deserve every applause, babe, and you know I've never loved the scripture verse. I just want to live by the word of God, and it says the two shall become one, and so I am so proud that I ran the marathon too.

Speaker 1:

I like the verse that what is it? And the righteous will not run or flee, or something like that. So you could always say that's why I'm not running, because of that, but uh, hey, so it's practical. But there's some spiritual in a lot of that stuff and I know that we've been talking back and forth and kind of going on those things. So, um, I know that you had a bunch of questions to ask me.

Speaker 2:

I do have questions to ask you. We want to hear all about the marathon, but I want to start off Hebrews 12, one through two. So many of us know this scripture verse, but it's so important. Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight and sin which clings so closely and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith. The founder and perfecter of our faith who, for the joy that was set before him, seeing us run and finish our race, despised the shame and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. And so you know, paul talks a lot about our lives being equated to running the race and how we want to talk about that today. Israel just finished. Is this your third full marathon? You've done two, new York city, and then you did a halfer, which was my favorite because it was all the concerts that you ran through.

Speaker 2:

That was good. As a person in the crowd, I appreciated getting to watch concerts while Israel was running for hours. And then this one was our first LA, our first.

Speaker 1:

LA, I love how you say that I was with you in my spirit. You were preaching, I was preaching. You were probably doing a harder. I was doing my job of the race. You were doing a harder job than it was to actually run. But, yes, go ahead, sorry.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's go with that. I want you to think that. But yeah, so's talk about it. I think you should just tell us some points that maybe before the race you learned. During the race you learned, and I just want I'll ask questions, but this is all you, babe.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, I don't want it to be a um, yay Israel, uh, podcast. Yeah, yeah, I don't want it to be a yay Israel podcast. Yay, yay, yay.

Speaker 2:

You deserve it.

Speaker 1:

But I will take two minutes of it. Yes, show them this everywhere I go.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's the first question I have for you, then.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

What inspired you to run 26.2 miles with nobody chasing you?

Speaker 1:

Yes. Well, you know what? Actually I want to blame Manny, who goes to our church, because he texted me, I want to say, during Christmas break or it was actually after Christmas break, I think it was the new year and he just said, hey, did you know that you had enough weeks to train If you started today for the LA Marathon half marathon? And while he said that, I had a milkshake in my hand and was sitting at the computer doing something and I was like, oh my gosh. And then you know me, I'm so extreme that like the smart thing would have been, yeah, I could do a half marathon if I started training now. But I was like, I am going to go for the big marathon and I'm going to like surprise, many like, oh, you thought I was signing up for the half. Look at me. And so maybe that was a little bit of it.

Speaker 1:

The other thing was I was turning 52 and just kind of one of those things I do better with goals and I think maybe that can help some people that are listening when we're doing the marathon of life. Sometimes we need to recalibrate our goals and just go like, okay, this is something I can do. Sometimes it's a stretch on our goals, like, oh, why does it have to be so extreme? Because some of us, that's what we need. We need the extreme to be able to do it, and so I don't know if that answered your question, but that was one of the reasons why I signed up for it and I just went for it.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and there you have it. I remember one time we were on a pastor's panel and somebody asked what Israel? They asked Israel what his dream date with Rachel would be, and do you know what he?

Speaker 1:

said what did I say?

Speaker 2:

He's a standup comedian because he said I would. My dream date would to be to run a marathon with Rachel. Now, some of you wives might be like then I need to fulfill that. I just laughed you think so highly of me, but I'm never running a marathon. I've done a 5K. I signed up. I am registered to do a mini try which is like a quarter mile swim and then a 10 mile bike ride and a what three mile run or something like that.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to do that but honestly, just my ADD of doing one exercise for 26 miles sounds like hell. And I will. I commit I will run beside you in the marathon of life, but you will never see my behind in front of you at a marathon.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, it's, it's sad but it's, it's okay, it's the dream. The dream keeps on.

Speaker 2:

I just keep on having the dream. That's a one man sport.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I remember maybe there were. I wasn't really paying attention, but maybe there were couples running together, uh that would have been so sweet. The other thing is like how would I know that you wouldn't just take off or I wouldn't take off? Like what's the point?

Speaker 2:

I know for a fact that you would take off. I am a fast walker.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh. Yeah, but I'm not a fast runner, so I don't know. Maybe I would have stayed with you, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

We shall never know the answer to that question. But I am so stinking proud of you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. Is that enough? Yep, that's enough. Any other any other questions on that that you want to go?

Speaker 2:

No, let's go through some actual principles of that would correlate with what you learned during training, maybe what you learned through the race, all of those things, like whatever you want to talk about. But I think it'd be great because all of this really does correlate with, spiritually, how we are to live our lives.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think the thing that Manny said was he said hey, here you've got this training schedule that if you did this you will be ready. And so I have run marathons before, and one marathon that I did was just pure mental, like I can do this, I don't care what they say, that's just kind of how I'm wired. Like you say I can't, I say I can, and I had run a lot but I had only max ran five miles at one point and so I would run max five miles, max five, but I would run like five days a week. So I'd have like 25 miles in my mind and I'm like, if I can run 25 miles in a week, I can run 26 of the day. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, if I had a week to do a marathon, I could do it.

Speaker 1:

See, that's what I thought, and this was different. This time I was really. I was. I was a behind in schedule as in, I was on the right schedule for a half marathon. I was behind schedule on a full marathon, but I just thought you know what I'm going to try to do as well as I can, and I guess the correlation to that on some of those things is you. The training was the biggest difference in the world for me on this race and it wasn't. I didn't get the exact training, it wasn't perfect.

Speaker 1:

We were traveling and ministering in Australia.

Speaker 1:

There was one day it was raining in Australia and I was supposed to go on a long run but there was nowhere to run because we were in the middle of like, just nowhere to run.

Speaker 1:

And so, luckily, the hotel had a treadmill but I had to run 13 miles on a treadmill the most boring, tedious, you know, but I just arranged it. And I think, when it comes to our Christian walk and the spiritual practices that we have, you know, our Bible reading, our prayer time, our personal devotions, our worship, our generosity you know it's never going to be perfect and there's always a somebody maybe says you have to do it this way and there's best practices and there's things that you can pull and go man, I can do that but then there's certain situations it just doesn't work for you. Maybe you can't do it in the morning because of you're a mom and your baby wakes up at four. So when you say first thing in the morning you got to do your devotions, well, that may not work for you, but there is this time at 2 pm that your baby finally falls asleep and you have like this 15 minute thing that you can, in a sense, train then.

Speaker 1:

And so that's what I think one of the lessons that I learned is just that everybody's training is different but, your training is important, and so don't just not train because it doesn't fit your schedule, your pattern, what you had to do, but try to fit it in there. And so I think that I finished this race. I can really look back and go. It was because of the training that I did beforehand. And I think, people, when we talk about spiritual life and being successful and finishing strong, and you know all those um, not cliches, but just um, you know illustrations of our Christian walk, and finishing the race well has to do with what are we training now? Cause, uh, it is, it's a long race.

Speaker 2:

It's a long run, and so those little things happen now and it's like get the word in you. I remember when I had the kids and I'm like you, really felt the Holy Spirit's pleasure on the fact that I was navigating this new thing called motherhood, which was very sacrificial, and there was no God in heaven judging me, but more like listen anytime that your eyes look to me, any sigh of you breathing in and just trying to focus on my presence is beautiful, and I think sometimes we stop having intimacy with God or closeness or growing in God because we're not doing it the way that everyone tells us it's supposed to be done and it's such a myth. The best way to run your race is to just get those miles in, wherever, whenever.

Speaker 1:

However, yeah, and I'm a big anti-Christian woman. Instagram that shows the candle and the. Bible and all that it's projecting, all that. I'm anti that because I think what you're saying is so true. I think God cares a lot more about your heart and the moment, the time, versus what filter you use to capture that candle and the scripture in the background that you've never really even read. You spent more time, you took you 30 minutes to post it and you know so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we need to be people who stop talking about the word of God and start doing it. Yeah, start knowing God, yeah, so you know, I think that it yeah. Start knowing God.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you know, I think that that's good and it is it's ugly the miles. I remember like there were some sacrifices and it was some weird times and things like that, where I think there was one time when we were traveling it was like in the middle of the day but I I needed to get like what you would call junk miles in and it wasn't like the right time and you know you just have to do it and I think that that goes along with what you're saying. Like a new mom is like just get those moments in. Don't be so, you know, religious that it has to look like you know that Instagram thing I mean it could be you're changing the diaper and listening to Campbell's Soup podcast.

Speaker 1:

You could be doing all kinds of different things listening to the Bible app, all those kinds of stuff. So good. Any other questions?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I remember I do the. What is it? The timed run on the Nike app, yes, or what are they called? Not timed run, but it's training you to get into shape and that works so good. Side note it's just the Nike app and it's this timed run. I think it's called Coach Bennett and you are so disappointed because you had Coach Bennett like pictured, like this big buff guy, like the rock, and he's like a really cute little guy with glasses.

Speaker 2:

But, Coach Bennett. When you're running your first mile, he says after this mile, get something to drink. And you're not hydrating yourself for mile two. When you take a drink at mile one, what you're doing is hydrating yourself for mile 10. And what you're doing in mile one matters at mile 10 more than it matters at mile two. So I know that if coach Bennett said that and you've just run a marathon, can you talk to us about the importance of the hydration and nutrition and how you did that and why it was important?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Big game changer again. Because that is the difference between running a couple of marathons now is I kind of know a little bit versus what I didn't know the first time and then now knowing some of those things, and so this time I was definitely way more intentional at. You know, they'd have things of like Gatorade, which you need for the electrolytes, or just water, like every mile and a half, but then you get into some areas where it's just a neighborhood. That's the fun thing about a marathon is there'd be a neighborhood and they'd have their whole family handing out cups to people and things like that of Gatorade or water and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

And so, yeah, I, and then you know you're burning so many carbs I think it was, I think we looked at the app I think it was 3,500 calories or something like that. At the end of the race that was burned and so, um, I know that there's like little gels. And then they had people. That's the great thing about the LA Marathon, man, they had people cooking hot dogs, they had people with tortillas, they had peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

Speaker 2:

Like just tortillas, or what'd they put in them? I want to know these things. No, just like a tortilla, and it was so sweet.

Speaker 1:

You could just tell that it was like with love, that they wanted to give you one of their tortillas and uh, and so, yeah, just the constant and it's. You know, if you eat, I think this was was good, and maybe this can help somebody in your spiritual life and it maybe even goes back to that previous question. Is it wasn't like okay for the whole race, israel, 26 miles right before the race, you need to drink this amount of water and it's actually it was this little cup, and then you throw it down and you just kind of do that and so, and then there was just a little bit of a gel or something and so I do that every three miles and so it was just a constant and I think that what we do in our spiritual walk is we do that beginning of January.

Speaker 1:

We bet, yes, we're going to like we're really going to do it this time and, uh, it's, it's really, it's every Sunday is a little deposit, it's not this super Sunday. It's like, okay, there's some Sunday and it's just you're doing it. I'm not really thirsty, not really hungry, but I'm doing like what you said. I'm not doing it for this mile, I'm doing it for later. Sometimes we're, you know, our prayer time doesn't have to be because it's an emergency, could just be. I'm spending some time with God now, you know, so that it'll get us through that next mile. And so that was a big thing. Is just consistency thing. Is just consistency. Small amounts, consistent, are way better than these large amounts. Those large amounts, if I would have drinking too much water, could have really hurt.

Speaker 1:

Give me a side ache or whatever or too much food could have done all that, but a little bit all the way along was perfect. It's beautiful, I love that Okay.

Speaker 2:

So how did you keep your mindset right? Because I think that you know from everything that you tell me it's more in your mind than in your body where you really start to shut down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean I don't know if I do this great or bad, but I do know that one of the worst things that I do and I think we all do in life is, you know, I kept on looking at the clock to see how many miles I had done, and that could be. That can be good and bad. The good part is I was also looking to see what my average time was, which was really important. Maybe I'll talk about that in a second. But back to this one was you know, looking at where you're at and how many miles you have to go can be so deflating, and I think in life, are we ever finished? Are we ever there? Like, you know what I mean. You can look at your kids and you can think, man, I can't wait till they stop drinking the bottle. And then it's like man, I can't wait till they don't do this, then I can't wait. But can I tell his parents of 20 year olds, it's not over.

Speaker 1:

You're not like like, oh, finally 18, you're done, no, and then you know, someday when our girls are 40 and they're allowed to date, then it'll be, you know, even more stuff that will still be parenting and still doing that. And so I think one of the things mentally is to just don't stay so fascinated with how many miles do I have left, because that can play tricks on you. So there were some times in the race I just refused to look at my watch because I was in paid and I know looking at it is not going to really be good. I just have to keep going, and then I'll take a look at it a little bit later. And then, um, what I said I would talk about now is just uh, this helped me is I wasn't running um unnecessarily to at a certain time.

Speaker 1:

Maybe in the future I'll run a marathon to try to hit a time, but this one just wanted to finish 52. I just want to finish, and so for me what was important was to know that I wasn't supposed to be going um too fast. And so I kept on looking at my watch and actually more times than um than not, I was saying slow down, I got to slow down. I'm going too fast. I know where I'm supposed to be and I'm actually going too fast. I think that that's a good spiritual discipline too is enjoy the moment, don't burn out now. I'm in this for the long game. Um, don't go to, don't burn out now. I'm in this for the long game. So I was slow at points cause I was playing the long game, cause I knew at mile 22, I needed some reserves, and if I use them all now, I don't know if I'd have it then. So I actually, on purpose, slowed down.

Speaker 2:

I love that. Um, something that happened that I thought was kind of interesting was you had to go to the Dodger Stadium Saturday before the race and get all your gear, which was exciting and fun and there are all kinds of booths and all of that but then you got this t-shirt that said finisher LA Marathon 2024 finisher. And you only got that if you were in the marathon. You couldn't just buy that. That was not like merch. People could just go buy and not run the marathon. It was the sweatshirt to wear after you finished. But they gave it to you early and they also gave you the LA Marathon t-shirt that you were supposed to wear early and I'm like you came home, I'm like, babe, you don't have to do this anymore. Like you have proof that you were in the LA marathon and you do not have to run tomorrow because you already have the proof, I'd have the shirt.

Speaker 2:

Right. I think a lot of times in our walk with God we want the product before the process.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Rach, you don't even know, and I'm not like a like, like I'm not into like trying to.

Speaker 2:

Be something you're not. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. But there was this point in the race and we were actually you and I looked at the course of the race beforehand and we were just kind of looking at where do you go, talking about where we could meet, you know all those kinds of things but there's this one part and you noticed it. You were like I would hate this part and what it was. It was a loop, and so what would happen is you would go one way and then you turn around. So while you were still going, people would be coming and finishing. It's towards the end of the race. So you still have you're at mile 18. They're actually coming back and finishing mile 26. So you still have another eight miles. They're coming back and of course, you know people that are real runners there, that you will see them. They're cruising by you and you're like mile 18. I'm like, oh, you know all of those things and I can remember thinking and seeing it would be so easy to just turn to the left and just finish.

Speaker 1:

And you know, and I think that life is full of shortcuts, there's so many different things that we can just go. Nobody's going to know. Oh, I'm tired, we can. You know, in our mind, and here I'm a pastor and I'm having thoughts of cheating in the marathon. I could just do this and it's like I felt like when Jesus was tempted by the devil. It's just like, you know, you could do that and I just, you know, in my own mind it was like no, no, no, that's not what I'm doing. I'm here, I'm running this race and you're not going to take that away, you know from me. But it is true, like it's just moments that you can take a shortcut. There's moments that you get the shirt first why do I have to run this? And you know, there's moments in ministry and in life where it's like, ah, and then you don't realize, yeah, but there's still the race to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so something that happened during the marathon this one in particular is I was preaching at church and kind of all the Campbells had a job Phoebe led worship, I was preaching and then Chloe was going to kind of be there to cheer you on at the end if we didn't get there.

Speaker 1:

But she dropped me off.

Speaker 2:

She dropped you off in the morning and she was excited for that, for to be in that position to be your cheerleader. And so Chloe was there. Well, her phone battery died. She was driving Israel's car that only turns on through her phone the Tesla and so she's locked out of the car. Nobody had chargers. There's 25,000 people in the race, but people watching the family is multiplied by like 10. So it's just crowds of people everywhere and she wants to see her dad finish the finish line. That was like what she was there to do and she couldn't find him. And Israel crossed the finish line and Chloe had not found him. And she's like there's so many people crossing the finish line, so many crowds, and then her phone is dead, and so Israel's like has no one at the end cheering him on. We were going to try to get there with our signs and everything.

Speaker 1:

But I was so fast you couldn't get there in time.

Speaker 2:

When we were ending service, he was crossing the finish line and he was supposed to be like an hour later than that, and so we missed him at the finish line. And you know that moment he's done this huge feat and everybody wanted to be there for him. And, um, I just think about life and how there's so many times where people aren't there for you, how you think they're going to be for you while you're running your race.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is a harsh reality, but it's the truth of what do we do in those moments. How was that for you?

Speaker 1:

Two things. She did meet me at one point and I got some photos and that really was very special. There was something about along the race.

Speaker 2:

I'm so glad she found you for that.

Speaker 1:

There is something about, along the race, seeing somebody familiar you know and she was, so she wasn't like a.

Speaker 1:

You know, she's our cheerleader. Yeah, she was cheering, it was very special and very much, but finishing a race to then you had one job. I just want to get out of here to not being there and like, oh goodness and all that, and it is. It's such a. You know, it's a life lesson.

Speaker 1:

The Bible says that David encouraged himself in the Lord and I think it's a lost art of sometimes us in social media 2024, getting likes, getting comments or in the race, a marathon, somebody cheering you on with a sign you know that says your name, and those are all great things. It makes it so much easier. But there's moments, like you said, that you just don't get that. And the Bible says David strengthened himself in the Lord and I think we just have that in life. There's going to be some disappointments in marriage and raising kids and your career and church life and so many different areas that you expected one thing didn't quite turn out the way you expected. What do you do?

Speaker 1:

And I think those moments are you encourage yourself, and so I did. I was like, come on, I gave myself a high five. I was like I did this, all those things in my mind like come on, and I you know, I'm at that now Like I did this, like I'm 52. Come on, before it was just like I did it, but now I'm like, yes, and I probably walked with a little bit of swag, only because my legs hurt. But I think that that's a life lesson. Rach right, you've got to, even if you'd never run a marathon. How many times have you had to cheer yourself on?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think the lack of applause from man when you're doing something that you know is right is a really big test before God. It's like what am I really doing this for? And those moments matter. You're good at that. Israel's really good at encouraging himself in the Lord, and there are some of us like me. I'm number seven of 10 kids and I need the applause sometimes, and so it's important to do it without the applause, and I think just knowing that is that sometimes people won't be there for you the way that you would be there for them. But that is that really what matters most, and just keeping our hearts right and then being proud of what God's called us to do in this race. You know, I think about what you said to um. The little bit is so much better than the flood of one time, the water or the food, and think about that in our marriage and how Valentine's day is such a farce, and I love Valentine's day. If you want me to eat chocolate all day, I will do it because I love you.

Speaker 1:

But I want to get a massage together.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, I love our birthdays because we celebrate them together.

Speaker 1:

So we do like couples, massages, but um.

Speaker 2:

but I think that the little bit, when it's not a holiday, it's not an anniversary, but the little bit, the little things are what really sustain when we're raising our kids. It's not the one big time that we discipline them or the one big time we go on a huge family trip, but it's quality moments of speaking life over our kids or being there when they need us to be there and, you know, praying over them when they're not around it. All those things. I just think quality and um over quantity by far, but also the quantity like just getting moments and putting things in there that are small. I think that means so much more in our relationships and our walks with people than the big things, and so don't be discouraged if your life is crazy and you're busy, do the small things and just put in those miles and in the end what happens is a well-run race.

Speaker 1:

Well, and can I just add, what happens at the end? The end is actually not the end, the end. There's still another half a mile of walking to do to get to the car, there's still a half a mile of walking to get through to get your medal, to get your stuff, to get your picture, and so if you're just like 26.2 and then you're done, I think that you won't live a good spiritual life too, if you just think, well, if I just do this, we're actually the race is actually never done. There's always more and there's more to it. And so if you just kind of, I think, with family, with all those things, you set those goals, but it's never enough, is it Rach? Are we ever done? Growing, are we ever done? When we're done, it's funeral time and we're celebrating a good run race.

Speaker 1:

But I would say it was just hilarious. The LA marathon finished uphill and I was like why would anybody make a marathon finish uphill? And then it was another 0.5 miles of walking through crowds just to get the exit, and then that was before even trying to track down my beautiful daughter Chloe. That was just to get to the exit, and I think it's just a life lesson we're never done.

Speaker 2:

And a huge part of the preparation for you was the rest days. And you know it's never done and there will always be another part of the race. That's why our rest matters as much as our practicing right.

Speaker 1:

Big time and shout out to Manny, who scolded me and told me I needed to take my rest time before the marathon, and I was, cause I was behind. I was trying to speed it up and maybe do more and I think the rest helped me. Uh, for that day, so good stuff, thank you. Next week I will not be wearing this metal, uh, but now, everywhere I go this week I have it and it kind of pops out of my shirt and I'm like oh, Was my medal here.

Speaker 1:

And then I bring it up to everybody I have never met before that. I just ran the marathon, but only this week. Next week it goes back to life, is that it? That's it All right, we'll see you guys next week. Leave us some comments.

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