The Bisexual Icon Agenda! (VPR RECAP FT BRADY WOLSIFFER)

Emily Rose welcomes Graphic Artist and GREAT friend of the pod, Brady Wolsiffer, to sit down for a 3-Day VANDERPUMP EXTRAVAGANZA!! They are briefly interrupted, but don't let that deter you from all the fun!

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Transcript

  Hello. Hello. Hello. This is who the fuck knows with Emily Rose. I'm Emily Rose here today with a very special guest to recap Vanderpump rules, season 11, episode, whatever the fuck 15 or something. I don't know. Listen, guys, you are used to me having maybe Rob Schulte, usually Lindsay of Vanderpump recaps on.

And today we have someone adjacent, but.  Especially important to this Vanderpump world.  We have the one and only Brady Wilsifer, who, by the way, is the. Voice, dare I say mind and soul and body behind all of Vanderpod recaps, graphics, he helps with her recaps. He helps with her and my sanity most of the time, just getting through this weird world of Vanderpump rules.

And I'm so glad to finally have him on once again, Brady Wilsifer, how are you?  Oh my gosh, Emily, I am so good to be here. I'm so good to be living in your podcast today. Um, I am so excited for you to, um, just take my podcast guest virginity today. Um, and thank God Lindsay's told me you're a gentle lover.

So I feel safe here to really just have my cherry ripped. Right. Oh my God. Ripped right open by you. Good Lord. We're coming in hot, I guess. Right. Well, ripped right open gently.  I'm a gentle lover. No, I'm not. I'm we're coming in hot. Listen, I do what I have to do. I think we all do. And I didn't mention that.

I'm glad you did. This is your first podcast ever. How are you feeling?  Um, I'm excited to get canceled before I even have a chance to be a, an internet celebrity. I think that starting off with a cancellation really just lets the people know what I am capable of. And I'm so excited to be canceled on your podcast today.

Well, as long as you will let me be the Tana Mongeau and you can be the Brooke Schofield because I will never be that, like, Uh, funny and witty and hot and I'm just always gonna be the one just speaking stories into the mic like Tana, so if we can, if we can agree on that, then I think we can agree on anything.

We can, as long as I get to get railed by Matt Rife, but only a couple times and then he disappears from my life like he did with Brooke. I love that. And I will have an on again, off again, will they, won't they relationship with Jeff Wittek? And then we're good. Then we are good, honey.  Jeff Wittek. Jeff Wittek and, um,  oh my God, Matt Reif.

Both men with plastic surgery on their faces, but for completely different reasons, 

speak out.  Oh my God. I tried to take Lindsay to Dobrik's pizza while we were there, but we,  we didn't stop in time because I, I was a goofball  and I did not put in the right address when we were going from one place to the other. But, um,  I might be going back in June. So if I do, I will be definitely visiting Dobrik's pizza.

Cause I just had to know, I have to know. I don't want to support him, but I have to know.  I've seen the pizzas online and they don't. They don't look like my kind of pizzas. They look burnt. I'm, I'm a, I'm a skinny, I'm not a skinny little girl. I'm a skinny little pizza girl though. Like a thin crust is what I want.

Yeah. Like it looks too squishy. I'm just like, I don't need to be eating all that dough.  Yeah, well,  great. Well, uh, that said, speaking of West Hollywood,  we're here to talk about, thank you. We're here to talk about Vanderpump rules. And if you don't mind, I would like to know kind of,  Well, kind of where you are with the show.

Like, I want to know, are you a long time watch or a long time fan? And then like, how are you feeling about this season?  Okay. So something you should know about me as a human person, um, I'm gay.  I grew up on Bravo. I was a child watching Kathy Griffin's My Life on the D List. I was,  I think, in middle school when Real Housewives of New Jersey came out.

Um, this is my shit. Um,  I have, I started Vanderpump when it first came out. I've always loved it. Um, it did have a little rough time in those few dark seasons. Like, you started it from the beginning beginning.  Oh yeah. Like when it was airing, I watched, I watched live on television. I watched that they then trick us from Beverly Hills.

I, I was actively tricked. Yeah. Yes. Compensation should be coming soon from Bravo for that.  great. Um,  but the season, oh my gosh. I think I've liked the season overall, but it is like a frustrating season to watch because.  I just always am thinking of what I wish production would have done. And I think that they're just in a difficult place with the actual show itself.

Which may be the reason they're on a break now. Um. Yes, yes, yes. I don't think they cracked the code to give us, like, the best season that we could have gotten. But it's still an entertaining season and I'm still having a good time. Um,  but also, you know, I watched the show and then I'm just like, all of the women in the show are victimized just like by being on, like, I feel bad, like, watching Sheena have that meditation, like, with Sandoval, like, I'm just watching people be traumatized for television and it doesn't feel right sometimes, but I'm having a good time with it. 

I'm still here and I'm watching, you know, I don't feel great about it, but here I am. And that is the definition of a guilty pleasure, right?  Um, we all need them. We all need them. I think, and I don't want to feel guilty. I feel guilty watching this show, particularly right now, because I think that  Well, I, I may do feel guilty because I tend to lie on the, um, unpopular opinion side of a lot of things when it comes to the show, but I also try to really  see it from.

It being a show  and  sometimes I'm like, maybe if it were  done differently, we wouldn't be seeing it that way. You know what I mean? Like, we wouldn't be worrying so much about, is this for the show or is this in real life or does this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  That's kind of a, an issue that all of the Bravo shows have, and one way that was invented to kind of close that gap would be the introduction of watch what happens live the, the show.

That was ho Thank you, once again. Um, the show that's hosted by Andy Cohen, that, uh, is a his late night show, but a lot of times they have guests on whatever. If you're listening, if you don't know that, then well, now you know. You're welcome. If you're not watching Watch What Happens Live, you're only getting half the story.

Half the story. Is that what they say on RuPaul's Drag Race Untucked? I think so. If you're not watching Untucked. Yeah. That's how I feel about Watch What Happens Live. It completes the night. It's kind of like that final, it's a nightcap, right? Yeah. Like, you get done with the night and you're like, all right, I'm gonna watch two bitches from one of these shows.

Yeah. Talk some shit. And, yeah.  I haven't been watching Watch What Happens Live a lot recently, except on Tuesday nights. Yeah. Um, you know, I missed Keira Sedgwick and whatever irrelevant actor they had on the other night. Oh, sorry. That's so weird. No, I did not know that Keira Sedgwick was on. Keira Sedgwick, it was at the end of the Katie and Ariana one.

He's like, tomorrow night, Keira Sedgwick. And I was like, what is she doing?  It's just Andy clocking his famous friend once again.  I, as he should, but give me Sarah Jessica Parker, not Sarah Sedgwick. Truly. Sorry, sorry, the Sedgwickers are gonna come from me. Where? Where? Um, she's 70 and her name is Patty and she's from Oklahoma.

And she. Loves Kira. Um, I love you Patty. Shout out,  but no, watch what happens. Live is the nightcap. I love when I'm like on my bravo shit and I'm watching a show every night and I just get to see Andy every night. Um, but yeah, watch what happens. Live. It's the best.  It's the best. Uh, this week after the show, they had Katie and Ariana on and. 

Um,  something got revealed that I would like to talk about and I know that you feel we're gonna we're gonna really just jump right into it, guys. Um, if you're not familiar with Brady and how he feels or how we feel, just  buckle up. Buckle up.  Because we have some things. I know, twin. Um, we have some things to really talk about so it gets revealed over the course of this episode that Ariana, who we do know, Right? 

Did have to star in Broadway, eight shows a week, for several weeks, starting the night of the premiere of Vanderpump Rules, oddly enough, to, uh, two weeks after the reunion was filmed, like, the entire run, she was booked and busy.  However, she did not It turns out, watch the show.  Uh, now she, she's given screeners.

She has access to these things.  But, she did not. And,  I want to know, Brady, kind of where you are on this revelation, cause I've, I've,  I, I have a lot of thoughts. My first thought, though, is, it feels like, there's a lot of things throughout this season, for me, that it's like, If you question Ariana's decision or behavior, then  that's a sin.

Like, you're not supposed to question it. And this, though, seems to me like a work obligation that should be pretty black and white, but I found out. Unfortunately, I'm wrong, but I want to see how, how do you feel, like,  and how, so wait, did she watch the episode prior to  The filming of Watch What Happens Live, because it seemed like she hadn't done that either.

So that's what actually blew my whole mind, because like I said earlier, Watch What Happens Live is your nightcap, right? You get to watch them talk about what happened. Like, I want you to talk about the show that happened that night. Ariana did not even watch the episode that aired before her episode of Watch What Happens.

Okay, thank you. That's what I thought. Yep. Yeah, and, um, and she even when she said that, you know, and Andy pushed back at first he like made a little like face. He was like, Oh, you haven't watched it. Yeah. And then when  She, he pushed back. She was like, well, I had my dream job and he literally was like, well, how fun for you.

He said that to her at the end of that. And I was like, okay, Andy, you better get her because it is true. Like you can't sit here on Watch What Happens Live as the star of Vanderpump Rules. Yep. The uh, reigning queen of Bravo. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you can't say Chicago's your dream job at your other job. Yeah.

What? I don't go clocking at Walmart and tell them how much I love working at CVS. No. No. I just silently work for pennies while my boss makes millions. Brilliant. So like, I don't understand how you can be.  At the level that Ariana's at and not at least lie, say you watched it. I'm sorry. I saw Brad in the audience.

Brad, Brad, Brad is with you all of the time. Why is he not watching it and giving you a transcript? Why is he not saying here's every bit of information that pertains and would  like, is knowledge you need to know, right? Lindsay could recap it for her. Ariana could ask. I guarantee if Ariana was like, Hey, Lindsay, recap, yeah, she could.

I'm actually at my dream job, not Vanderpump Rules. Can you recap for me so I know what's going on? Like, you have There's no excuse. It's a part of your job. You're on What's What Happens Live to talk about what happened in the episode. And it honestly, it made me really mad. Like, and I love Ariana. I'm an Ariana stan.

And I'll say this too. I'm a stan of everyone on the show. Right. Except James Kennedy.  I legally can't be a fan,  just like he legally shouldn't be allowed.  Well, we're going to pop,  but it's like, it's a part of your job and you need to do it. And it's really frustrating because it's taking away good content from us.

The fans, like we want to know what she's thinking. And we, when we're robbed of that,  I think that's the, honestly, that's the best point. is that  the fanbase is so serious about her. They're so dedicated to her. And it's a disservice to the fanbase to not have an informed opinion  on, uh, On what you're talking about.

So if we're, what is the reunion going to be, if you're going off fricking Katie, who  seriously  just does not, she's not like, listen, I understand Katie's the queen, Katie's the queen, and she's our goth fucking emo queen who is only about females and lesbians and all of that, we get it. But also though, the reality is that Katie.

Also doesn't really fuck with like  the show like that.  She's only going to have her perspective and  she, it's just not a good, she's not a good narrator. Like for example, uh, when she said, well, Sheena never looks after like me, like she never texts me. And then it turns out she had to text you. She does like weirdly watch you as well.

It's just like that where I'm like. Dude,  you need to, whatever, it doesn't matter, she needs to do her job. Ariana needs to really like, and I just get frustrated because I feel like there's all these things that we have to keep giving like,  caveats for, so it's like. I can't just say, I think ultimately she should just like, probably be the bigger person and move out of the house.

Then I get like a slew of arguments that's like, well, she's a, okay, and I get that. I think ultimately like, she probably should have taken some time to be single. Well, she doesn't have to do that. I think ultimately, you know, like, it's like, it feels like it's on and on. And every time that it's like,  Maybe this decision should have been made.

There's another one. I think ultimately you should watch the show because I'm so sorry. This is going to definitely get me canceled. Call me Tana, but like  the show was the reason that you got on Chicago. So sorry,  like you were not. I mean.  Auditioning for Chicago. You were not auditioning for Chicago. You were not auditioning for dancing with the stars.

You were not auditioning for fucking glad.  And it's a really smart move and she's very smart. And so it was her publicist for getting her these opportunities,  but it's kind of a slap. I would, I would feel as her employer, like it was a slap in the face.  If like, I was like, yeah, hyping you up, like, let's go, like, let's get all these opportunities.

And then you were like, Oh,  well, I don't really fuck with you, you know? And that's kind of been her attitude for a really long time. Uh, in my opinion, maybe you disagree. Let me know. But like.  She's never been super into the show. She's never been like,  like she went on this very astute, by the way, diatribe about this seasons ago, where she said like, we're on fucking Vanderpump rules.

If we were successful actresses, like we would be doing it, you know, or actors.  And she was right. So she's like aware, but at the same time, like, girl,  you need to be ungrateful. It's just a bad look. Yeah.  It's, it's like, It's, it's shitting on what brought you up, right?  I'm trying to think of an apt comparison but I can't really right now.

But like, you have to like, give the respect to the thing that made you.  And, but then also, when you were going through, you know, all the, like, her.  All the things. I was also thinking though, like also if I was her, I'd kind of be like, fuck this show, fuck these people. Like for sure just a continued traumatization.

But if that's the case though, then she should have left the show. Yeah. Um, if she couldn't participate and fulfill her job duties. Yeah. You know, she should have pulled a Rachel. She should have went rogue.  She should have gone rogue.  She should be Ariana on the loose. As me and Lindsay like to say.  Ariana on the loose.

You actually, oh my god, I can't.  She should have been. She's wild. She's rabid. She's on the loose. She's on the loose.  Yeah, I think that that really frustrated me and maybe I still have to unpack it. I think that maybe sometimes I really do try to like tune into a position. I have no business tuning into, which is like of a producer and I don't know, like, I don't know, but I feel like I would feel. 

Well, as an audience member, I feel like, so how am I going to be able to understand any point you're coming from on the reunion now, knowing that you didn't watch the show, you watch clips because I know. What happens when you just watch clips, or when things are taken out of context and put into one social media, I know what happens.

Like, I'm on the, I'm on Reddit, that's all Reddit is, so,  it's kind of,  kind of frustrating.  When you're asking them to tell a story at the reunion, you know, go through the entire season and all of that, and how is she gonna do that if she doesn't know the material, right? Like, how is she going to  How are there even going to be arguments if she doesn't know, like, what Lala said in her confessional?

Or what Sheena said? Like, I, it just, it, it honestly makes me feel like she's making her job harder. Because now instead of having answers for things, she's gonna have to, like, sound stupid every time and be like, Actually, I didn't do my job.  Like, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I'm just trying to get into her mindset of that.

But it's a, it's an interesting decision and one that I don't think is the right one. And, I don't know, what do you think Alex Baskin said when he was watching? Do you think Alex Baskin sat at home and was like, I'm gonna destroy her? Like, she's done. She's, don't disrespect my show. Like,  I kind of do think that Alex Baskin said exactly that.

Because  Alex is nefarious, by the way. And I don't trust Alex Baskin or Evolution Media to save my life. They also produce fucking Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and I don't trust them. anything that comes out of those women's mouths on that show. So I mean, yeah, no, I think that he probably wants her to watch the show so that she can have an informed opinion.

Um,  but  he also like edits people weird and does all kinds of weird shit. So I don't, and this whole season has kind of been like a,  It's been shown to us like a  weird,  I don't know, maybe it's not shown to us weird. Maybe I feel weird about it. I feel, I feel really weird about this season and I feel super weird about the, the response, like the fan reaction, the Reddit reaction, Jesus.

I know you have a little bit of involvement. Like I know that you like dabble. I know you're not like big on Instagram, but like you're not. So. Into Instagram like that, but I'm not a poster. Okay? However, I'm there. I'm lurking. I'm not an Instagram girly. I am. I'm on Reddit. I'm in the Reddits. I'm not posting

I'm also on Twitter. Okay? I'm in the Twitter. Oh, but bless you. Really? A lot of my Bravo. Stuff that I find really does come from Reddit, but it's, I don't, I'm not enjoying the fan reaction, um, and I don't know if that's just my opinion as someone who is a lurker in the fan community, that that's why that's my response, but I just, I, I see so much  intense  Like feelings and I guess I'm having intense feelings on this podcast, but as we are that's why I have a year Yeah, so now I'm like now I'm like talking shit about what I'm doing But it just it sometimes takes the fun out of it when it's so intense and it feels like they No matter what anyone does I think a certain amount of people who watch this show are gonna have a problem.

Yeah, and  And maybe that's, maybe that's why Katie and Ariana are seemingly so disengaged from the show itself. Maybe it's a protection tactic. Maybe she's grey rocking the fans. Um,  oh my god, is she grey rocking the fans? I think so. Is that what she's doing by not watching the show and conversating? She's giving us absolutely no reaction, right?

Yeah, she's grey rocking us!  Ugh.  I didn't sign up for that. 

But I, yeah, the fan reaction and the, the stuff I see on Reddit, what did, what was it that we saw today? We saw, um, someone tell Lala to, uh, shove a toothbrush up her ass. And they called her, what else did they say?  Do you want to say it on the pod? No, yeah, totally. They called her, uh, Sperm Breath.  Sperm Breath.

Sperm Breath. There are worse things your breath can smell like I, but I'm okay. There are worse things I could do. Okay. It's just like, it's so intense. I don't ever see a reason to comment on a celebrity's social media. Like someone posted that at her. Yeah, that's crazy. Not tagging. That's, it's kind of funny.

Like, sperm breath does make me giggle. It is kind of funny. But like, don't send it directly to that person. It's like, I don't like that. And that's why I love the podcast, uh, Bitch Sesh or Garbage Sesh now. Garbage world, yeah. We're here. Garbage World. Oh, I'm too poor to be in the Garbage World. Are you in the Garbage World?

I was. I had to quit. I'm too poor to.  Yeah, thank you. Like, what is it? Like 14. 99? So expensive for no reason, but that's another. I love you guys, but damn. Um, anyways, love the garbage. I love them. I'm not, I'm just poor. Macho is free.  Yeah, who the fuck knows what Emily Rose costs 0. 00. Just leave a five star review. 

That's your payment. Um,  but no, I just, I can't, I, I like, I like garbage trash garbage world, whatever. Because, you know, they're very much like, don't tag, don't tag. Like this is, it's fun, it's silly, it's stupid. We're talking shit. But like, why are we adding, why are we sending things to them calling them sperm breath?

Which like, I get that message sometimes, but I'm just like, dad, stop texting me, like I get it. Um, but,  but,  no, I, I'm just kidding. My dad doesn't text me that. He doesn't Not comedy hour. That is funny. Um, sorry, sorry. Um, But no, I don't, I don't love the fan reaction and I need everyone to chill so we can have fun.

Well, actually today I did like an unpopular opinion, or yesterday I did an unpopular opinion in Conspiracy Theory 3. Yes! People were going in. And then at one point I paused to share a picture of um, Danny from The Valley um, and  Because he had this hairstyle, and it's on my highlights guys, so if you want to go see it, go to WhoTFKnowsOnlyRose on Instagram.

But he has the exact, when he was in iCarly, the same time period that he was in iCarly,  Danny Lotto, or whatever his name is. He had the same hairstyle that Zach from the Valley wears today.  And it was, I was, I was, I was cracking myself up. But then a, a, um, a fan of the show, friend of the pod, uh, DM'd me.

She was like, well, he has a really good sense of humor. You should tag him. I said, I do not want. Zach's energy anywhere near my podcast. I was nice about it. I'm not like a bitch, but like, I was like, Zach cannot come anywhere near my podcast, no, sir. He,  I  have a lot of opinions on Zach and,  and now I'm going to put them out in the world. 

Oh, should we wait for them? No, go for it. No, no, no, no. Oh, shit. Okay. Um, I hate Zach Wickham.  I think that he needs to go back to Tennessee.  He's so annoying. Um, before the season aired, I hated him. Every single thing, that little face he makes where he's like  that side smile. I'm like, Oh, I just did a visual gag for a podcast.

Oh shit. Um, but we'll clip it. I can't, I can't stand, good, good. I cannot stand him. Um, his hair makes me so angry. Um, what is with the Teresa Giudice, like, season one hairline?  Take care of it. What, is it a wig? I'm just so confused. Um, and then the season started, and I loved everything he said. And now I love him. 

And I don't, and that's why I  say, like, don't take it too serious. Oh, I'm a Gemini. Utah.  And I'll probably do it on this pod. I will probably contradict myself 20 times before the end of this, because my opinions just change and like, it's just how I feel and the feelings are never that serious. So it's like, they can change.

But once he started in the show, I loved him. Like he said everything I would say, I feel like, and I loved that.  I love that too. And I want your opinions to change. I think that it's good to like change your mind based on new information and absolutely that's kind of what they're forcing us into guys. Uh, okay, well let's go ahead and recap Vanderpump rules.

We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back 

and we're back.  All right. So let's get into this episode of Vanderpump rules. Uh, really quick synopsis of the episode.  We see  a little bit of Ariana and Katie talking about something about her. We see all of the crew preparing to go to San Francisco to go to Kyle Chan's whiskey tasting. We see a lot of random shit like, uh,  Santa ball performing at El Rey or  people proposing to each other on the bay for no reason.

We see a lot of stuff and then we get a lot of kind of interstitials and people warming up to the idea. This is very much a leading episode. There's not a lot that happens, but there's still some stuff to talk about. So  Brady, we open with an seemingly no longer working for.  Arianna, or sorry, no longer working for Sandoval, but now working for Arianna at SIR.

How'd you feel about this whole thing?  They opened the door to something about her. And  Standing behind the counter, just vibrating. She's like, thank God Tom's gone. Like she  is so excited to be there. I'm excited to see her there. And I love her. She is delightful. She's a breath of fresh. She has not been ruined by this industry yet.

And I love seeing her on my TV. Uh, I love her podcast. Shout out. Uh, we signed an NDA.  Shout out. We signed an NDA. See the title. Isn't that hard to get correctly, Tom. Oh,  why are they always like, no, the name of things are you like, it's not on the show.  Like, don't be stupid. Sorry. I'll,  I'll stop. But Brady, you don't understand because Tom doesn't have an assistant anymore.

So how can you pronounce things correctly? You know, unfortunately, Ann isn't there to tell him the name of her podcast. Yeah, that is a detriment. And, you know, that would have been on Ann's responsibilities. However, Craig does not have that responsibility. Just like she doesn't have to clean up after the pig.

So yeah, well, they come in. Oh, no, it's hot. So  Craig is a little hot and it is upsetting that I find him. So, you know what? We don't have to pit women against each other,  just kidding. Uh, we don't have to pit assistants against each other.  Correct. And it's hot. It's hot.  Hot,  they can all be hot. All assistants are hot, except if you're their employer, do not say that.

That's harassment in the workplace. And we don't stand for that here. Um, we don't want that, but they come, they come into something about her and vibrating behind the desk and they show, did you see the closeup on the toast box?  Do you know Toast? I know Toast. Toast, the, the subs like the The POS system!

Yes, yes, yes. I'm a They Former server, holla.  You're a former toaster. Um Actually, we no, no shit. We used that we used Toast when I was at Hooters.  Oh, work. Yeah. Um, did you work there with Britney?  No, I actually worked at Hooters on Peachtree, um, made famous by Drake. And I was there two, no, a year after Courtney from Hooters on Peachtree, as mentioned in  that song by Drake.

I am,  I can tell you that I know. Like two Drake songs and that's because Beyonce's on them. Other than that, my knowledge of Drake is non existent, but  they show this toast box and I literally, I was watching and I literally yelled out toast. Like I got so excited. Hopefully toast gave them some damn money or gave them those systems for free, because that was great product placement.

I love it.  And then did you notice they changed the, is it called a Chiron? The little name.  I think so. Yeah. Mm hmm. Like they changed the Chiron for Anne and they changed it to a  Former Tom's former assistant to, uh, I love people that notice that stuff because I never do like I, it's like captions are nothing for me.

If, if I have the captions on, then I'm reading everything. If I don't have the captions on, you can forget it, honey. I don't know what's going on. I love a little, uh, graphic joke. So maybe that's why. You know, when I make those weekly recaps for Vanderpud recaps, what we learned this week at Vanderpud recaps, check it out on Sundays.

Um, I love putting funny little photos and making little jokes in my graphics. So maybe I just have an appreciation for it. Thank you so much.  And guys, just in case you for, if you like missed it at the beginning, Brady does make all of the graphics for random pod recaps. And he also made the graphic for when we went to LA, like the under pod recaps and Emily Rose, who the fuck knows Emily Rose going to LA and it is so. 

It's just so cute. It's such a great color. Also,  if you've been participating in my polls this week, then you know that I've been using the color that Brady used for the graphics. So, um, You know what, Emily Rose? I'm dying. The color scheme is so cute. Yeah. I don't know if I saw your story. Is it funny? No,  you should not pay me.

I need everyone to know that even though I'm calling myself a graphic designer and that I do graphics, I am, I'm just an idiot with a computer. So I've been to no school. I don't do this for a living now. I guess I kind of do a little bit, but just, you know, Please, please look at it with a discerning eye and know that it's, it's an amateur who made it.

So, so maybe I could just be good for an amateur, not bad for a professional, you know,  if you're going on to any of our social medias and talking shit about Brady, I'll literally find you. So  honestly, I kind of want you to, I want to feel that. Maybe just a couple though. Maybe like three. Okay. Three shit comments.

Top three.  Top three shit posts. Top three shit comments for Brady.  Brady will make a graphic for me to come find you.  A map. A beautiful map. Oh my god. So, okay. Back at something about her. We're there and Lisa Vanderpump comes in to talk to Katie and Ariana because they are firing chef penny and chef penny  Was not doing what they wanted her to do, but chef penny has a story.

She wants to tell apparently, cause she was in the comments this week talking about, I want to tell my side of the story and I'm like, well, I want to hear it,  but she never did. So what the fuck? Where are you? Like, wait, she posted that she wants to tell her story and then didn't come out with the story.

Literally  chef penny.  She has vibrations for me. They showed a flashback with Penny and the girls, and I just don't like the way that Penny, um, seemingly takes over when they're around, I find that really disrespectful and rude. Um, although sometimes you do need a professional in your corner, maybe someone who's done this before, but  yeah, I want to hear chef Penny's story.

What did she, has there been any clarification on the LLC and the trademark situation?  So all I know, I mean, not, not since like she and her husband own the trademark of something about her.  And that's all I know,  unless that's like misinformation, but I believe that's true. Um, No, I think that is true. And I heard something else about something like Penny asked them to file the trademark for a really long time and they never did.

So Penny just did it through her LLC, which I'm like, okay, maybe she did. But, I don't know, it doesn't seem like they're on Penny's side anymore, and the way Lisa has that conversation, it's I don't love the way Lisa approaches it by being like, here's what I know you need to fix. And do you want to know how I knew Penny told me?

It's like, how are you going to have a constructive conversation after you put them on the defense so fast? Like that? Like I'd rather her coax that information out of them and like a better way. It's just like, I don't, if, if, if the, if the producer of my show came in and was just like, here's what I know and here's what Penny told me.

And in my head, I'm like, well, we're. Parting ways with Penny because we're not like vibing like I would just I would be so annoyed with her I don't like the way she approached that Brady said give us drama. Give us nothing. Okay, bitch  No, but no drama  like coming in I know this  But it's just not a great scene.

It's not. No, you're right. Like she's, LVP is more clever than this. She's not, she's not being like, she's not making it interesting. And so  As a result, I'm not invested and I really don't really give a shit. I kind of like, I'm not even invested in Penny in her commenting bullshit. Um, I found out today, cause I'm not like, I don't, do you watch like the reality shows about cooking shows?

Like, are you into like that?  Genre of reality at all.  See, I'm not either.  But Penny's a villain on one of them, apparently. Apparently so. Apparently so. I had no idea. I was listening to Watch What Crappens and they were like she's a sexy chef in the show but she's also the villain and I'm like how are you going to be sexy and the villain and then  I mean, like, I don't know.

What do you, I want to see the show. I should see the material actually. Because I have no intention. I have no intention of doing research. I want you guys to fucking give it to me in the show. I don't want to have to go and watch another show to figure out the lore. Give me the lore, you know, like the  penny lore. 

Um, give me the penny lore penny for your thoughts. Am I right?  So  that's what she's. I literally almost just stole the joke from Watch What Crappens. They made the joke that that's what Penny's restaurant is going to be named. Oh, for real?  Yeah. But maybe I stole the joke. Okay. Okay. Don't tell the joke.

Well, did you listen to the pod?  I did.  Oh, shit. If you did.  Did I steal the joke? Canceled, Brooke. Bye bye, Tana. No!  That little, that little blonde haired gay on the Segway is gonna come take you out from TanaCon. Stop! Canceled now. You stole a joke. Ben and Ronnie, she stole your joke. I'm just kidding. Oh, my God.

No. They love Lindsay. Oh, the first time Ben and Ronnie, or well,  Ronnie always says Vanderpud recaps Ben never does. And I'm like, Ben, do you hate us? I'm so sad, but yeah, I think he just doesn't like the color scheme I picked  that. I think that I think Ronnie just gets so caught up that Ben just doesn't have time to exclaim how much he loves you guys. 

Hearing Ronnie say Vanderpottery Caps, I, I literally was like, whoa, like that is. That is intense. Like,  I don't know. It was, it was really cool. So, thank you for loving the Underpod recaps. Watch what crap ends. We love you. I'm sorry Emily Rose stole your joke. I'm sorry too. I'm sorry  too. This is why people don't, this is why other podcasters don't listen to other podcasts.

But I have mental health. Okay? So I have to listen. Just, okay? Sorry, I'm not If I didn't listen to Watch What Crappens, did I watch the episode of Vanderpump? Like, no. No. I'm only getting half the story. Again. Truly.  Okay, so Did you notice Okay, back to something about her. Did you notice when they were, like, wrapping up the conversation, when, um, Lisa goes in her little confessional, she's like, I fear that if they pot ways with Penny, their restaurant will never open. 

I'm sorry, what? The restaurant isn't open and Penny's still in the picture, so like, explain yourself Vanderpump. First off, rude. Second,  Penny is the reason things are delayed, isn't it? Like, isn't she the reason, kind of? No, apparent well, probably, because I kind of don't believe that it's about permitting at this point.

Because, I also don't believe anything anyone tells me at any point in time when it comes to this restaurant. So, like, May 22nd, like, we'll fuckin see. But, I, I really just don't like, you  know, at some point I'm kind of like, well,  everyone's like, well, it's so hard to open a restaurant in West Hollywood. And I'm like, well,  wasn't that hard for Lisa Vanderpump, uh, she got them open.

And granted, we don't see how long it takes, but at the same time, I'm kind of like, I don't really know how long it takes, and I don't really know anything about permitting in the city, and I really don't know. So, at this point, I'm kind of like,  Does it take three years for every single place? Just say that then.

Like, for every single place, it takes three years. And then I would be like, Oh, okay.  Well, then we're on schedule. I'm saying all of that to say,  I don't know. And I don't fucking care.  Yeah, I'm kind of over the restaurant. It'll open when it opens. It won't open when it won't open. And I kind of, did you hear the rumor about it coming to like delivery apps to be a ghost kitchen?

I did. And I was kind of, um,  into that because I was of a food truck. And so this is kind of, it's  ish kind of  also like, I would buy something about her sandwich once, at least. Yeah. Especially, I also, I've been pitching this, uh, meme idea to Lindsey, but she hates it and refuses to let me post it. Um, it's  the Katie bologna sandwich. 

Being introduced to something about her menu. See, you loved it! I don't know. I tried to photoshop a waitress's arm onto Katie to hold the sandwich and it just, like, wasn't working right, so I gave up.  Katie baloney. I really, um,  I want to try it.  That's so good.  No, no, I'm trying to like workshop the name in my head.

I'm like,  um,  no, Katie baloney is great. What are we doing? Why are we not doing that? Anyway, we have to move on. We have to move on.  It's going to be a four hour long podcast. It's going to be breaking records over here. Okay. So, um, We move on to, we see Kyle Chan  setting, getting, trying to get things together on the other side of town for his whiskey opening in San Francisco.

And Sheena's there with the 27s, who by the way I love. I love the 27s, and I love her song, and I love Boy Crazy. If you guys haven't listened to Boy Crazy, listen to it. I love it.  And, um,  I'm the, like,  Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter is great, so I have great taste, and so,  um,  so anyways, so, yeah, literally. So, um, We get there and Kyle insists that Tom Sandoval is there because he needs to help out with sound.

That's not true. Uh, the 27s are an established band. They don't need a sound fucking guy and sound guy wouldn't be Sandoval even if they needed it. Uh, but he's there and they sit down to kind of go over run of show with Sheena and it kind of gives an opportunity for Sheena and Tom to talk because Kyle Chan says. 

Uh, that Sheena and all the people are, is it attacking him, uh, torturing him, torturing him.  That was the word.  Sheena gets crying and she's so,  she's so moved emotionally. And she says that she misses him. And, you know, she's, she's, she starts saying that she wasn't going to put that line in her song apples, but then she decided to, and it just, she didn't mean to, and  it was all just kind of like a lot.

What did you think?  I, well, when it opened with Kyle Chan, like, of course that faggot has a Chihuahua. Like, of course he's standing in his terribly decorated jewelry store. Did you see the fake gold bars all over the place?  I'm like, what are we doing? The diamond pins. I can't. Um, no, the whole scene. I thought it was pointless.

I don't understand.  It was pointless.  Like, they had that little orange haired kid. Who was that?  I loved his t shirt. It was so big. Mm hmm. But.  I, I don't understand why we're already trying to move past literally last week. She screamed in his face at deservedly. So he deserved to be screamed in his face.

Um,  I just don't understand why, I mean, obviously, like you said, this is a transition episode and we're just setting up like,  cause tomorrow, not tomorrow, next week is the finale. Correct. Correct. Yep. Tuesday night. I think they're just trying really hard to  finish up storylines and it just seems Really weird and forced.

And I hate seeing Sheena like cry.  It just, I don't like seeing, you can tell by her face, she's just so hurt and I just hate really seeing Sheena hurt.  She is also like, physically, like she looks like she's going through it. Yeah, and I'm, I'm saying this not like, so I'm saying this as a reference to, I guess Lisa Vanderpump is not a good person to like reference, but a few seasons ago, like, I think it was like season seven, season six, when she was going through, through that thing with Rob,  like Shannon came on camera and said like. 

And people were like, oh, you're that bitch, but this is what she said. She said that when she gets really stressed out, she has a hard time eating. And she's just like, cause she can't, cause she can't, cause she can't focus. Now, now we have context for that and that like she has OCD and all these things.

And so, or postpartum OCD. Um, I would venture to say  she might be. Have like an OCD diagnosis  past postpartum, but I don't want to diagnose her, but maybe she does  but she basically what I'm saying is she looks really thin and she looks like she's  She's beautiful and I love Sheena Marie  but she does not she she looks like really like Fragile  and yeah, I think that's okay to say do you think that that's like? 

I'm misogynistic. I think that she, she like, cause her emotional state, she's crying a lot and she's like  very, like, she seems like very on the brim as Brittany would say, like, she's like, she's like emotionally very, like  anything will tip her over and she doesn't look like that, like in real time now, but at the time I think she was really going through a lot.

And, um, as you guys know, I'm a Sheena Stan, so I, I really am going to give her a lot of credit, but  this scene just kind of made me uncomfortable, because it was like, some stuff doesn't need to be on camera, but she does do the right thing later, and she does say to Ariana's face that she's had this conversation.

I think it would be more nefarious if she had been like, I didn't say that, blah, blah, blah, blah, but she didn't.  She told her, do you wonder,  do you wonder if that FaceTime, did it happen?  Do you think she would've told Ariana that  just popped in my head? That's such a good question. Cause I wonder if she would have, um,  maybe she wouldn't have. 

Yeah. I don't know, but I do get what you're saying. Like, and Sheena is that person that you see what she's feeling and you can kind of, you know, see what she's feeling.  see her emotions, um, and I think that makes me just humanize her. I, I really hated Sheena before, like, two seasons ago. Not, like, hated, like, as a person, I just found her so annoying and, like, I just thought, like, her, I  don't,  I don't make music.

And I don't want people to say mean things about the things I make, but I hate her music and I think it's kind of, can you freak  bitch? Like, yeah, I can freak bitch, but not to this song. Like, get the fuck out of here. No, no, Brady, by the end of this podcast, I'm going to turn you into a Sheena Stan. I swear to God, I'm going to turn you into a Stan.

Her new music is okay.  Go ahead.  Uh, her new music is better. It's better. I will, I will allow you, I will allow you that when I will say it's getting better. Um, for the time though, I mean, I think Can You Freak Bitch was pretty, um, revolutionary for pop music. I think she opened doors that, uh, women in the industry only dreamed of opening for people.

No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, you can see that she's a little, she's a little treaded a little or no treaded downtrodden. Um, and I don't know what her, she looks like her hair is doing something. It looks like she went straight from wet hair, clamped that, that hot iron on her head and just sizzled the fuck out of her hair.

Yeah. So dry. And like her bangs are sticking. I'm like, get yourself some hair.  Oh my god, no. No, I think she's having a whole fuckin yeah.  Call us Jax.  It's the Call  us Jason Couchy.  I  Is that Jax's real name? Yeah, Jason Couchy, yeah. Okay. I just get confused, cause there's like 70 Jasons now in the Vanderpump world.

There's so many. And I'm just, I'm lost. So yeah, she needs some hair oil or something, like, I can't with the dry hair.  I'm glad that they had the conversation. I'm glad that they're patching things up. I don't know. Like, I think it's stupid to  I think she just, I don't Who's telling her to move on with Tom?

Like, is she actually wanting this? That's what I always question. Here's my question. Do people really care about what I think about it? Because I'll tell you what I think about it.  Ha ha. I think that this would probably be a natural progression of events in, for real people, like,  and I don't think that these are real people, like,  I don't think, I, and I love Sheena, I don't think she's like a real, I mean, she's a real person, but like, this whole thing that we have going on is not real,  um,  and  I think that, like, I,  when I try to put myself in like, A similar situation where I have similar friend groups, I'm like, yeah, man, I probably would be emotional if  my best friends that are both married now that are both, both friends of mine for a long time. 

Uh,  and like, the guy was like a part of my life.  I would be emotional if I had a situation where I was like, one on one with him and I was talking to him. That would mean that I would be in a situation where I was one on one and I was talking with him  and it just  probably wouldn't happen, you know? Or like if it did, it would be brought on by this whole other string of Different complicated things that go on in our friend group and so like I wouldn't want people to like say that I'm not friends with  M because I'm friends with G, you know, or like because I'm like  having an emotional moment with that person and I've had similar things happen and I actually recently had a conversation with a close friend of mine  about how I handled that situation where I was kind of like the Sheena. 

And how I, I like watching Vanderpump Rules, I'm like, I don't like that in Sheena. I don't want her to do that.  But like,  it's also like natural and, and  it's like a natural response. I just think that what we're picking up here  is not what people are trying to put down. You know? Yeah.  So anyway, God, we have to move on.

Jesus Christ. I know. We're getting caught at every single scene. We're getting so caught. We're getting caught up. Um,  so Lala calls  Tom Sandoval to tell him he's not invited to her. Like, again, it's like, what's a weirder thing to do, in my opinion,  as a friend?  Is it weirder for like,  your friend to be having to be in the same room as someone that she's about to have to perform with because of a mutual friend?

That you're all going to the same event? Or is it weirder for your friend, To FaceTime your ex, specifically, to tell him that he's not invited to your party, but just to catch up.  To me,  it's the latter.  I think in this group, specifically, we keep finding that  the weird thing is usually the thing that's done.

Right? Like, it's  just, I don't, the FaceTime was weird, but I kind of,  I love how Lala spun the FaceTime to be like, Oh, I, I wanted to give you a call, the respect of a call instead of a text. I'm like, respect. You're calling him to tell him he can't come to something like  thinking he'd violate the like social norm of not coming to something you're not invited to. 

Like, I don't know. I'm like, why would you?  I don't know. I just, it made no sense why she was calling him on FaceTime. I think maybe a producer was like, hey, call them on FaceTime so that you can see that Sheena's there. I literally think that's why. That has to be it. It  has to. It doesn't make sense otherwise. 

Well, we move on and you think that Sandoval,  Oh, sorry. I was going to say, you think that Sandoval wouldn't want to be caught filming FaceTimes, but here we are.  You would think that legal situations, put it into evidence, judge. Oh my gosh. So we go to Lala's  33rd birthday party, her Jesus party. It is in, uh, A burlesque show, as you all know, I'm invested in this because I am a former burlesque producer and stage manager, social media director, and one time performer,  and  these scenes  used to be a lot more frequent in Bravo.

Actually, this is the first burlesque scene that I've seen in a long time. And while.  While I still feel like the  body  positivity was not repre or like the, the d body diversity was not represented in this particular show, uh, it was a lot more realistic to what burlesque is than what we've seen in the past.

Because burlesque is not just like,  Sorry, I'm kind of a Dita Von Teese hater, but like, it's not just like putting on a corset and having, uh, stage kittens run around and take your shit off and then like you do a little shimmy and get off like it's an actual performance. There's an art to it. This is really cool because it's like an intimate performance and  I really appreciated that.

I appreciated the props as a former stage kitten. I, uh, And producer, I know the, uh,  complications of like pouring water on the floor as part of your act and like how to clean that up and like having like the logistics of getting the performer, the water and all of that. Like, I kind of was focused on that for the scene.

So I was not as focused, unfortunately, on the dynamics because I was like.  Okay. So she just took off one glove and that went to that direction. And then, so she has the water. So who's handing her the water. And then her, uh, her coat came off and then like her pasties it on, or is it going to pop off? I don't know.

So that's where I was. So Brady, if you could tell us what happened here, cause I really could not pay attention. You were busy, uh, stage directing, uh, the show actually. So, um, no, I don't know. Okay. So what happened? Um, Logan. They all walk in. Um, they're sitting around. I got Logan confused. I thought there was one Logan.

I thought it was the Logan that railed or got railed by James Kennedy. Allegedly. That's Sinister Logan. If you're into Sexy Unique Podcasts, they call him Sinister Logan. Sinister Logan. And then you have the regular Logan. Oh, yes. I am into Sexy Unique Podcasts.  Okay, so this is regular Logan, not Sinister Logan.

Yes. Um, Heather McDonald is there, um, absolutely. I'm surprised. You know, Emily, I think they're, they didn't have to worry about the water on the floor because Heather was so thirsty that she sucked it up, um, immediately. So they didn't have to worry about the water. I, I love, I love, hate Heather McDonald.

So, um, I said, she says she's thirsty. So I love that she can at least fucking admit it. Um, I wish she would admit that she's transphobic and racist, but she won't do that. No, she won't. Um, getting canceled again. Uh, Brock talks about being raised Mormon. So he's like uncomfortable around this. Um, and then I just started thinking about, um, Brock in a Uh, what do they call the little, the, the, not little, what do they call the men who like go around and like go door to door, what's Jack doing? 

No, a mission. He, I imagine him in the mission outfit,  the like white button down in the slacks. Oh, and then I imagined Brock's big ass in those slacks. Oh, I am hot for Brock. So yeah, you were getting off to Brock. Yeah.  Well, and then just thinking about him in that Mormon outfit. And then I was like, damn.

And there's this gay movie called latter days. I don't know if you've ever heard it, but I think every gay person probably has seen it before. So hot. They're Mormons and they're gay. Latter days. Did you say latter days? Yeah. That's hilarious.  That's really fun. I would watch ladder games too. 

But no, I, you know,  I love Brock and thinking about him as a Mormon. I, he said he's uncomfortable with the burlesque though. So I'm like, chill out. You're a grown man. You're like 50 now. Like you can deal with relax. Yeah. Um,  I,  I hate that James told Tom that he's not gonna open for a shitty fucking band, and then they ask him if he's gonna go to the El Rey, and he's like, maybe I'll go.

I'm like, make up your mind. Yeah. And then  Tina talks about the conversation she had with Tom, um, and she's telling, it's more so like Lala's asking the questions, but we are really getting a camera full of Ariana's reactions to  Tina's answers. And, um, Ariana did not like it. And I kind of love, I kind of love that Ariana just lets her face show what she feels.

And I think that might be what freaks Sheena out so much. Yeah.  But I wish that Ariana, if she had a problem with it in the moment,  had said something, girl.  Like, you're just gonna make faces. That's very true.  Say something.  Say something, I'm giving up on you.  I am giving up on Vanderpump Rules, but Me too.  I think that Lala is like Lala's kind of explaining Sheena's weird behavior for forgiving Tom and is like, you're just trying to co exist.

And I'm like, Sheena's not trying to co exist. Like, Sheena wants to be friends with this man. She just doesn't, she can't admit it to herself. I don't know what internal struggles she's having, but, um, I think she wants to do more than coexist. And then Ariana and her confessional being like, that ain't your friend, babe.

I'm like, yes, please. Like, it's not like stop trying. No, it's really not.  Um, okay guys, before we get to the gin party, we're gonna take a quick break. 

Guys, a little behind the scenes information, uh, Brady and I had to take a quick break from recording after we talked about Lala's birthday party because, uh, I was tired and tired of them tired of being a pimp rules and I needed a break. So it is now two days later and we're back ready to continue recapping.

Uh, Brady, welcome back.  Thank you so much for having me again.  For my  second part of my first podcast ever. I couldn't, I feel like, I feel like a professional now. Now that it's been two days, I'm like, Oh, this is just what I do. Yeah. If you guys notice a huge improvement in his entire  presentation,  this is number two.

Yes. I'm just kidding. Oh my God.  Also, I just want to say in the couple of days, since we last recorded a couple of things have happened. Uh, that I think I have to touch on before we move forward. One of those things being that Katie, Ariana and Dana, Katie's co host on her podcast hosted emo night,  which they tend to do all the fucking time  and, but usually it's Sheena, but this time it was Dana and  a comment on the subreddit that said something to the extent of.

Yes, let's get rid of the whole entire Vanderpump cast and just keep the three of these, these three bisexual icons and they'll really fulfill the bisexual agenda. And I was like,  you, we've really got to get a grip around here. Don't you think?  You know, I'm happy that there's an appreciation for bisexual people in the world.

Often they are erased, erased. Sure.  I, I I'm happy that we're acknowledging, um, their, their alphabet, um,  but, uh, a little, a little bit. Insane to be like, get rid of Sheena and add Dana. I mean, we tried that once and it didn't really work out that well. So it didn't work out at all. No one liked it. Yeah. I'm I, I do enjoy Dana on the podcast, but.

I'd be interested to see, I think, didn't the tea kind of get spilled about Dana? She kind of filmed for this season  at least a few scenes. Yeah, she was like flirting with the idea and she was present for some of the things and it's unclear if like she didn't want to film or, or like if she didn't, if she changed her mind or I don't know.

I was kind of confused about that, actually. I remember the recap of Disrespectfully, which, um, Lindsey writes the recaps, I make the graphics, so I really am just reading to check for spelling and everything like that. Right. But I think I remember reading that she got into it, and then that's when Kate, like, they filmed a lunch or something where Katie revealed that she had slept with Max, and it kind of, like, triggered Dana's, like,  like, Remind me about being on the show, right?

Yeah, and I think that's might be why she stepped back again. She's like, actually, I realized I don't actually like this  checks out to me,  which I don't blame her, but I love that they were emo night. I am obsessed with emo night, TJ Petraka, Morgan. I don't know your last name. Love you guys. Love TJ's wife.

Aaron Gilfoy. She's amazing. I listened to Carly and Aaron and watched them on YouTube. Oh, cool. I don't know anything about the organizers.  Oh, Emo night is a sick company. They, they throw these parties and I, they play Coachella and then they travel with the parties now too. So they take them to cities around the country.

Yeah. So I have been to an emo night. I was,  yeah, they had one in Atlanta, um,  a few years ago. And it was.  At mine, it seems like, it seems like maybe the ones in LA are  more nostalgic. Um, the one that I went to had a lot of music. Well, no, that's not even, that's not necessarily true. When I think emo music, I kind of have a pretty specific idea. 

And the one that I went to was a little more broad. Um, and also. I thought that we would be amongst like  my peers and like nostalgic  loving people. And it was a lot of  children, a lot of, you know, but to be fair, that was at the masquerade, which, uh, had just moved to right next to Georgia state university, like on campus.

So I think it was a lot of college kids, but  yeah, I kind of, I was like, if that's the vibe at the emo nights in LA, then it's more of a, I only need to go once type of thing. I don't. Like I think I'd be comfortable going again and again, but that was my experience. And the LA one looks like significantly more fun.

And I think they really put a lot of production value into the LA ones. And I know, I know they have like anniversary ones where they go really big. Um, but I think over the years, the touring, like. Party has gotten better. So maybe it's time to go to another email night. Brady, you should fly down to Atlanta.

We should go to him together.  You know what me and Lindsay and you,  Lindsay Brady and Emily take email night. Lindsay Brady, Emily.  L B E  B E L, BLEE.  BLEE. BLEE.  I like BLEE the best because that means my name gets to go first. There you go. And the toxic person inside of me loves that. Of course.  I'm the number one guy in this group. 

That's for sure. Um, you are, you are.  Um, speaking of toxic people.  We, we get, but so after we see the burlesque party of lalas, we get a little interstitial scene of Brock preparing Brock and Sheena, uh, getting ready to packing for San Francisco. We learned Brock hasn't done a goddamn thing or seen anything in his entire life.

It is wild how little this man has experienced as a, as a, I mean, I'm assuming he's in his late thirties or forties. It hasn't done shit. I feel like,  like, yeah, some of it's American.  Like Australia has a lot of crossover with American culture. I mean, Australia is often like the number one country for like pop culture podcasts.

Like usually Australia is going to be the number one country outside of the U S that like listens to my podcast even more than like England.  I feel like they're kind of Americanized, so like the Play Doh thing, fine. Uh, what was the Play Doh thing, he didn't know about Play Doh because she was like, didn't you ever play with Play Doh with your other kids?

And it's like, no, Sheena, he never played with his other kids, babe. Sheena! He was busy.  Allegedly domestic violencing and leaving and he didn't have time for Play Doh in the country. So, no, he didn't play the Play Doh. He was also, oh God. Anyway, uh, so yeah, he, he talks about how he's never been to San Francisco and he's all excited and he's just like.

He's ready to get, he wants to do the twenties party. He has all these ideas. He is just full of ideas, full of ideas. He has the tiniest fedora on his head and he is  full of ideas. He is ready to go. Um, yeah, full of ideas. I would not call throwing a twenties party on Bravo. Um, that's pretty, uh, overplayed at this point.

And I think we're all tired of seeing it. I want to see them like, why can't we dress like futuristic alien whores or something? Like, give me something fun. That's actually very literally the last episode of summer house is exactly what they did. Okay. Well, I don't watch summer house. I, I'm a, I'm behind on the junior shows, but Bravo should hire you.

Cause you got the speaking of creative vision. Come on, get me in there. But yeah, they should do more. And, and to your point though, I wasn't trying to shade you. I genuinely, to your point. That was a really fucking fun party to watch because it was different. I want to see you turn a look that is fun and exciting.

I don't need to see you do another great Gatsby. I'm so sick of it. Although I wanted to skip ahead and talk about their looks from the party, but we'll, we will get there. We'll get there first. We take a stop at old  date night and we get Ariana in this version. And we get Ariana and. Dan,  can we talk about Dan now?

It's been a couple of days. Did we already talk about Dan? Cause I have some thoughts.  I don't think we touched on Dan yet. And speaking of things I'd like to do touch on Dan  insane.  I Lala being so horny, sitting on the bed, you got a good body. Good for you. Do you work for you? I was like, God, is she hitting on him?

But  she's harmless.  Yeah. What are your thoughts on Dan?  So, okay, this is what. I think, because I know that a lot of people, and maybe you share this thought, I don't know, a lot of people felt like the suspiciousness of Dan dating Ariana is like that maybe he's thirsty and like just wants to be on a reality show.

Here's my thing with that.  I don't think that  when I think about men that are going to be dating someone that's on a reality show, most of the A lot of the men that I've met in my life, their concept of a reality show is like, so off or so like limited that I think it's less about them wanting to be on the reality show and more about them being clueless about the reality show.

I don't think a lot like Luke, I feel the same way about for, for the Valley. Now don't get me wrong. He does have a bit of a sinister energy, but, um,  don't get me wrong. But I don't think it's like when I, I mean, I just don't think that it's thirstiness that I, that I pick up on because I think that these men, if anything, I get more concerned that they're going to be condescending, like, Oh, like the reality show or feeding into like, Oh, you're better than a reality show when men don't.

Straight men don't typically know a whole lot about lifestyle reality. Like they think it's like an isolated show, like a dating show, like love is blind or survivor competition singing. Like that's what they think. So I don't think that Dan is thirsty  necessarily. I think my red flags were, he owns a gym and he's a bartender or some shit.

He's like, yeah,  it's a terrible combination. Um, man, who will cheat on you? One on one bartender. Personal trainer. Yeah, personal trainer. Yes. Yes. But I mean, on the show, he,  his kind of attitude has reassured me a little bit that he is a pretty good guy. Like the way he's reacted to things, what he said so far has been a pretty good thing.

Normal, like, regular boy. Um, what isn't normal is the the hair. The hair is insane. When we saw the hair down later in the episode, I I screamed. Yeah, it's It was  Wild. Horrifying. But,  it seems like this is a good I don't know. Ariana seems so happy. The date seemed like they had a great time. Yeah, I saw. Did you see the meme where it's like Ariana's face, like laughing at him during the date and it's, someone said, I know Dan be putting her through that mattress. 

No, but Ibel, I agree. Yeah, she did. Down. I agree. And I hope she's getting put through the mattress. She deserves, if that's what she wants, if she, if she, if she wants it like that, like, I want her to get whatever she wants. Um, and if that's in this relationship with Dan right now, after meeting, you know, 10 days after Scandaval, I like that she clarified on Watch What Happens Live that it's been like a longer growth time.

That makes me a little more like,  less weary of him. Yeah. Yeah.  But he also says he won't move to LA, which seems like.  A potential deal breaker in the relationship.  Well,  New York people are like that though.  Um, I feel like LA people are way more willing to move to New York than the other way around. And I am unwilling to step foot in New York.

So I, I couldn't, I can't relate. Have you ever been to New York City? I was in New York City for approximately 36 hours once, um, it was post pandemic. One of, I'm just, I'm telling the story now, apparently of New York. I, because it's kind of cool. Okay. One of, um, Lindsay's friends from school works with the Born This Way Foundation for Lady Gaga.

Cool. And we got to go to Radio City Music Hall. With about 50 other people, um, and watch them film some of the songs that Gaga and Tony Bennett sang live. Holy  shit, really? Um, yeah, and this is, this is like Tony Bennett's last performance ever. He unfortunately since has passed away. Rest in peace, Tony.

You're an icon. Yeah. Um,  it was  one of the, like, most impactful experiences of my life, being like 10 feet away from Gaga, watching her care for Tony on stage was like,  I could cry. Like, you could also tell that his, um, Alzheimer's was pretty progressed at that point, but then you got to see a man, like, light up when the music started and you got to feel him feel at home.

Oh my God, it was beautiful. So I was there for like  36 hours, maybe even less. But it was a really important 36 hours thing we did there. So I don't really know too much about New York. We didn't really explore, but that was an amazing experience. That's so cool. I, um,  have a lot of complicated feelings about Lady Gaga, but one thing I'm not, that's never been complicated for me is that she's extremely talented and I love her voice.

And yeah, this might be controversial. I actually really liked the work that she did with, uh,  Tony, um, it is incredible work. It is, I really like it. But people talk shit all the time about it for some reason, which I think is odd. Um,  I think it's just some people struggle when an artist who sings pop all of a sudden is like singing jazz. 

Um, but she does it with such a reverence for the genre that it is,  I don't know, it's just so good. I would, I would listen to her sing jazz for the rest of my life. I would listen to her sing anything and again, complicated feelings about her as a person. No, we'll have to get into that at a later date because it wasn't a lady Gaga podcast, Brady, 

we'd have a six hour episode because  she's my number one of all time. I love that. I love that. Well, like I said, I think the New York people tend not to ever want to leave New York and  LA people are kind of more transient in nature.  I think when it comes to Dan, I agree. I mean, I'll just be real. I agree with Lala.

I think that there's reason to like,  Not side eyed Dan as a person, or Ariana as a person, but just kind of ask questions, like, what  What,  how,  how mature is he? I think it's probably the only thing I would wonder because you're either super duper fucking mature, like the most mature ever, or you maybe have things you need to work out.

And I think it's good that he didn't move out to LA. And I think it's good that they're doing a long distance thing, but I'm not like, Oh, he was like chasing her for her fame. But it is a, I have questions about like, if, if one of my friends had just broken up and some guy was like, Oh, yeah, man. I'll date her. 

I would be like, why right now? Like you, you don't have respect for her to like, give her time to heal. Like, that's how I would feel personally. Like,  it's a little,  a little complicated how I feel, but they seem to have a good time. I thought it was funny the sound he made when she was like, what about you moving to LA?

And he was like, 

I was like, yeah, it's funny.  You shut that down real quick. I feel, yeah.  He was not going to have that. Not at all. Uh, so we move on from the date  and we unfortunately see Sandoval.  He is opening Or I guess performing headlining at El Rey, which is a venue. His mom comes, uh, James and Schwartz show up.  I didn't have much to say about this  except a couple.

I don't really care. I mean,  sounds mean. I don't really care about his mom. Um, but it's like, no offense. It's just like boring content unless we're going to sit down and ask her the real questions about like the money and like,  you know, the firefighting and like the relationship and like, did she cheat on his dad?

And like, how did you feel about Ariana and the Rachel thing? And what was your perception of like, unless we're doing that, I don't really care.  What I, what I really, the one thing that I took away was that he performed a song from his former band, uh, uh, let's touch in public.  And I just  hated it. I hate that we have to bring that song up.

I, the, the situation with his former bandmate who, um, committed suicide after being deep into QAnon, like he went heavy into QAnon and then jumped off the bridge off the San Francisco, I think, or let me not say the bridge. Cause I don't know what bridge it was, but he jumped off a bridge and killed himself.

He was like spiraling out of control. On QAnon shit, he was also apparently, I, now I knew all this other stuff before, that's why I was like, what the fuck, when I watched it, like, why are we singing songs from that era?  But then also, I found out that he was like, recently that he was friends with Dane Cook. 

And Dane Cook famously  married a woman that  he's Dane Cook's in his mid forties. I think he might be in his early fifties. He married a woman that was 14 when they met  and his, his group of like weird comedy bullshit and the comedy community. Wow.  They had a, they've had several pictures come out of them hanging out with girls that are less than, I mean, I'm, I'm not, not that it's okay for it to be like 17, but it's We're talking about like 14,  um,  so I was like, what a choice, not just on Sandoval's part.

I guess I understand why he would want to sing a song, except I don't,  I would never ever sing that song fucking ever again, dude. Like I would never do that.  I think it's just the only song that they probably have the clearance to play.  I know, you're right, you're right. As far as like, if they have to pay money.

Because I mean, let's be honest, Sandoval can barely sing, so we know he's not writing any other songs. Barely is generous.  And I, I don't know if the parody, the parody laws, um, Go as far as Schwartz's mom, you know, so I don't know if he can get away with it like we're now so I think they just use that because it's the only one they had the rights to.

That's what I assumed because I was like, why are we listening to this shitty song again? I can't deal with it. And that's, that's a great point. Aside from all of the dark history.  It's a shitty song, and it's weird. Okay, so  why are we doing this? I don't know. I just thought it was an odd choice on everyone's part.

I mean, but in general though, I think it's odd of him to sing it. Like, I think  as an, like, artist. Which air quotes as fuck, I don't, I don't think I would, I don't think I would ever want to  it's so sad. It's so tragic. It's so dark. Why would you ever want to do that? But it's the end of all. So  what am I thinking?

He probably said, well, I have to sing a song on the show and I guess it has to be this one even. Yeah. I did not know the dark history about the bandmate, but I did not want to copy. Yeah. I would not want to perform that song if that was, oh yeah. The kind of situation around it. That would make me really sad if I was Tom Sandoval, cause that's your friend who passed away, even though they were a little bit off the deep end.

But  yeah,  well, if you think that's dark, 

we could have seen with Schwartz and Joe. And they, um,  they robot, they robot out together. They, uh, Really tap into this  thing. What do you think? You know, I've heard a lot of people say like, God, they really are perfect for each other. They're so weird and quirky. And I'm like, I never got this kind of quirky energy from Sant from Schwartz.

I never did. So when people are like, Oh, they have all this chemistry. I'm like.  I think that Schwartz may be just like, cause Katie, I think is very self conscious, not necessarily like insecure, but I think that she's like, always been like, I'm too cool to do that. And I'm too, she's like Kourtney Kardashian.

Yeah. Like she's aware of how she's being perceived. Per, for sure. And Joe has zero perception. Sorry. I just had to spit it out. She cannot be perceived,  dude. The, Oh my God. That's so funny. She really,  She, she really lives for the camp. She really does of it all. And  I live, you know, girl, go off, bitch, like do your thing.

But also  the way that they communicate is so, it just makes me feel not like she's forced to be there. Cause I know she, she's not forced. She chose to be on the show. She very much wants to be there. She wants to be on the show, but like, kind of like she.  Maybe was  lured there under false pretenses, like I almost feel like Schwartz was like, Listen, Joseph, if you come on the show, then like, it'll be great, like you'll get to tell your side of things and like, man, Katie's such a bitch, I'm so sorry she was like that to you, you know she's a horrible whore that I hate and I wasn't like even, I never even liked her for one second ever, Bubba is calling me right now, hold on, sorry, okay, anyway, Joe, if you come on the show, like, It'll be great.

We can talk about a relationship. Like that's kind of, I don't want to give Schwartz too much credit, but the way that she reacts to things, I'm like, did you, what did you,  what did, what did you think was going to happen here? You know,  I, I think. Okay, there, first off, the way they talk to each other outside of the LRA, it is like watching two malfunctioning Chuck E.

Cheese animatronics tweak on fucking meth. Like,  I don't know what is going on. I also, I think, I fully believe that That Schwartz has led her on all of this time. And I believe that's why she reacts kind of in the, in the wild ways we've seen online since the show. I think she was, I think she was tricked a lot.

Um, but I also think that like, Schwartz did it during this conversation, but he's like, this is my friend, Joe. I love her. And we're going to get married in eight years. It's like, God, Joe is going, Joe is going to break her neck from the whiplash you're giving her.  You're inviting her on this trip with your core group of friends to also participate in his job.

Yep. Which I feel like is a level of it that I don't, I haven't really thought too much about. Like he's bringing her onto his job. Um, and then being like, I just want to be friends, but I'm going to marry you in eight years. It's basically saying like, Hey, Joe, I really like you. And you'll be a great backup plan for when 20 year olds don't want to fuck me anymore.

And that is so sick. And I need Joe to see that for what it is. And just please run away from that, man. Like, I don't love Joe. I don't love her attitude online. I think she's better suited offline, um, to navigate her life offline, like completely offline, like maybe just throw your phone in the LA river and run, you know, gives like.

I'm like living in a, on a commune in the hills of the plains of the, of Utah. And I'm just like helping like bring community and like, I've known girls like that. I. Did not like them, but I've known them. But you know, she's gonna go do that.  Listen, one thing about them, they're fucking thriving, okay? Do you remember Mother God, the Mother God documentary?

Do I remember? Okay, okay, yes. You remember those two girls who do the live streams for Mother God? The murderers, yeah. I think they still do them.  I can't forget her name, The Murderers. I think Jo would thrive as one of those Mother God livestreamers. Oh, she would be so great as a Mother God cult member.

And she could make  themed hats and sell them on her website. Yes. Um, she could provide hair services if any of them want. Piss, yellow, blonde. And she has a following and I've heard that the mother God cult has really declined in their membership and their view.  So she could really give them some visibility, some free marketing.

I think she needs to just find the right cult for her and go join it and live her fantasy. And I think she'll have a great life. Yeah. But it's not with Tom Schwartz. Cause Tom not on TV and she's listen, Tom Schwartz is going to do this. He's going to  Orbit Katie for the rest of her life, as long as she lets him, she really needs to do some gray rocking in my opinion.

Um, I don't want to tell her what to do cause it's her life, but he's going to orbit around her. He's going to like dangle little 20 year olds in front of her until both of them are too tired and old to, uh, put up with that anymore. And then they're going to end up getting back together. So Joe, you really. 

You're wasting your efforts here, you're a pretty girl, you seem relatively nice, like, just,  just mother god out.  Just go to the cult, babe. Just, just go to the farm. Swim the cult! 

Oh my god. Okay.  Uh, moving on.  Alright, so now we are leaving  the El Rey, and we get to, uh,  See them getting ready for San Francisco. They're leaving. They're going to San Fran.  And, it's so funny because, you know, they've gone all, they've gone all over the world, right? They've been everywhere in the world. The world? 

Maybe not. Just, just, I think, North and maybe South America. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the continental Southwest.  They're not Beverly Hills, okay, baby? They're not international, okay? No. Did you see they had them flying fucking coach?  No, I did not. I don't pay attention to that. No, they had them flying coach, and I was pissed.

Because, I'm so sorry, Bravo. Oh. Escandaval, you can Yeah. First class. Least they can call the PJ. Like, it's just disrespectful to your cast. They're getting back to their humble roots. 

I don't even know what to say about this. Brady does not fucking approve, okay? There's one thing Brady's not gonna do. No! Give them first class! I'm fat. I'm a very large person. I need space on a plane. So like,  they're celebrities. I think that's similar, like they need space.  Um,  they, their egos, I think probably need an entire cabin.

So I think you're probably  right about that. Um,  we get to, we, we, we landed San Fran and  they, they go shopping.  They, uh, Kind of tour around. I saw in some Something I was watching that had some footage like their personal Instagrams and stuff like that from that day  Oh, yeah, and at one point they had like a police escort  to get them around I was like, oh my god there that see that's the celebrity treatment.

You're looking for Like Did you hear James in the background of that video being like, yes, we have to get the police escort for the white Kanye. Yes, I did hear him doing that. I thought we were going to drop the white Kanye thing once the Kanye, really bad Kanye stuff started happening, but apparently we're still on the white Kanye.

Well, do you really think that James is like abreast of, uh,  like, Social justice and like  political correctness, because I know I'm going to venture to say no on that one. I think he gray walls that out or whatever it is. Stonewalls, whatever it is, gray rocks, gray rocks. I  think you said something stone and I was like, are you thinking of stone wall?

Well, nobody died at Stonewall anyways. So, uh,  uh, no, I don't know that meme. Oh, you got to look it up. It's a good one. I was trying to make a,  an inappropriate reference to James's alleged sexuality. Um,  okay. So we get, uh, they go on this boat ride from hell rip off.  Okay. Was it Cartagena that the new, did you, do you watch real houses in New York?

Of course I do. And if you think I remember where they were, I do not. What I do remember though is how they teased us for months and months and no one even died on that trip. Like I was fully expecting, no one even broke a bone. I was expecting some shit to go down. You know what I mean? Totally. It's like, they're like Mayday, Mayday.

I'm like, Oh no, please let it be Ramona. Let her be gone. Yeah, actually. But unfortunately they all survived and it was a little dramatic, but. I kind of saw that about to happen in, in Vanderpump. I was like, they better stay safe out there. I actually think if they had thrown Ramona over, it probably could have saved their lives.

So it's on them, honestly, for not making the right decision.  You know, I usually don't travel on boats this shit,  so I'm used to my boats not sinking mid ride.  I can't stand Ramona. I hate Ramona so much. Okay, good. We're on the same hate her so much. That was a great Ramona impression. It's all my impressions are just stolen from Watch What Crappens. 

Every single one.  Just add in my inability to do them. That's the only difference is just that I'm bad at them. No, same.  I, I, when I started doing my podcast, I had to like, for a long time, I was  just as a disclaimer. This is just something that I learned from watch what happens. Please don't think that I know how to do impressions.

Don't ask me off the cuff. Don't come up to me in public and tell me that because I can not do it.  Um,  so yeah, we get this boat ride. One thing also that was not  weirdly, they didn't show this in Bravo  when Sandoval posted a picture, right? We're going to, we're going on conspiracy lane guys. When Sandoval posted a picture from this boat ride at the time, he had white residue under his nose.

And everybody was just like, everyone was like, Hey, bro, fucking do a nose check before you start posting selfies. And it was never addressed because I don't know, the sub is too busy, like hating Sheena or something to, to, to really talk about the real shit going down. Okay. That man had white residue under his nose and I'm sure he did everything under the sun to say it wasn't cool.

What it was, but it was what it was and I just like  also though, like watching that, watching the footage from the show and remembering kind of the casts like pictures and stuff. I did not realize it was as tumultuous as it was, but it was kind of,  it was kind of something I wouldn't want to be a part of. 

I don't know. If I would want to be on those substances in situations where I'm being, like, filmed,  like, that doesn't seem fun. That seems really stress inducing.  I think that  Um,  but maybe he just exists at a, on a higher plane than most, I think that he thinks he's entitled to be in, in, on those substances in front of the camera.

I think that that also like blow and stuff like that, particularly cocaine, uh, really boost your ego. It really makes you feel, not that I would know, I have no idea, but hypothetically, it makes you really feel  outside of yourself. You feel a lot more confident, you feel a lot funnier and a lot more interesting than you are.

And that's why a lot of people on Bravo,  Uh, have jobs, I guess, because  they have that confidence to push through. But I don't think,  I don't think that some of the people really care anymore about whether or not they're caught, you know,  I just hope we get to a place with peacock and with censorship and, you know, Ryan Murphy showing like full on sex FX.

Why can't I watch? Sandoval rail a line of cocaine on a boat in San Francisco. That's all it seems like a double standard to me.  I mean, it does. And it's better storytelling too. It's like, that's why James is spinning around on a fucking pole and talking about white Kanye in the back of a limo and bouncing off the walls.

And you look up and he's literally hanging by his knees upside down from the rafters of the boat, driving it backwards. Like, I think. It helps with the context.  Yeah, I love when they were all driving the boat.  That was so funny. Katie and Lala goes, learn how to please a woman. Yeah, literally.  I was dying.

Sometimes that air doesn't hit, but that was funny.  Oh, it hit that time. And then I also, this is probably Sandoval, you know, with that white residue, that's why he felt so brave to get so close to those sea lions at the end of the boat trip. When,  like you, I've, I'm aware that those are extremely dangerous animals that literally can rip you apart in seconds.

Okay. I was not aware of that. Yeah, no, they're like, they look like puppies. They will kill you. Um, there, so he gets so close and I love Ariana being like, I hope he gets attacked. That would be sick.  That would be so sick. Dude, that would be great content.  I love saying something so fucked up and then just like, kind of negating it with, that would be sick.

I do too. I hope he gets hit by a car. That would be sick. That would be sick. Like, it's such a funny way to, to start about this. It is. Her deadpan humor is much appreciated. It's dead. Meanwhile, Sheena would be like,  guys, you'll never believe. Here we are. We're in San Fran.  Hi. Hi. Oh my God. Sandoval. Uh,  Sandoval. 

That's what she would do. It was just really upsetting because Sandoval was getting really close to the sea lion and I was worried about him. And like, if he got attacked by a sea lion, I would be scared of sea lions forever. Yeah. And that would affect her. That would affect her because summer moon loves sea lions and she was just planning to go take her to the sea lions.

Can I ask you a question?  Is Brock Davies, um, abandoned child named  winter sky, winter moon or winter sky? I don't know the middle name. Uh, and do they have the same date of birth?  They do.  And Sheena was induced.  I don't know that.  Uh. Those, those were all facts I found on the internet that are probably untrue, but I read them in succession and I was like, that's real crazy.

Well, okay. So yeah, his daughter's name is Winter  and they do have the same birthday, but I don't know that she was induced, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was induced because she almost died in pregnancy. So, and that's, yeah, Sheena, and that's not like an exaggeration. Like she got extremely ill. And so, so maybe induction date has not literally has nothing to do with it.

It's just a coincidence.  It is. And I'm going to be real with you. I know. I'm like, I know I'm a Sheena defender, but like, it's actually really not.  Uncommon for, like,  guys  to name multiple children with the same, like, cadence of other children, even if, you know, like, I mean,  Kim, Chloe,  yeah, Courtney, Kylie. 

Kendall, Kendall, um,  . Sorry. She's like, I forgot the boring one. She's the most boring person, so I forgot. Um, but you know, or like a lot of the kids that I work with, it'll be like,  Javion, Jaden. Jamar. Yeah. Like, they're all like, you know, like they, they have the same, I don't think it's that. I know that it's weird.

That they're, that they're months, but I don't, I don't in isolation, I don't think it's really that, that strange for a guy that the guy naming a kid and having an idea of what he wants for that kid. I don't think that's, that's that weird. I don't agree with it.  Yeah.  I just loved that conspiracy theory because that was like. 

Such a good one. I don't think Sheena would want,  I think that her brand of attention getting is like, she is the only one, I don't think that she really would have wanted to have anything in common with the first wife. I don't think he, I think she would have wanted to one up the kids, you know? So yeah, we know one thing she doesn't want to have in common with the first life.

Well, two.  What?  Too dark. 

What? The violence and the leaving. Well, yeah. Obviously. Oh my god. She doesn't want to share her phone. Okay, so we get, oh god. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. I was going to say really quick, Lala made me laugh. I hate when this happens. She made me laugh. She was like, 

I feel like Goldie Hawn in Overboard. And I fucking love Overboard. It's like one of my favorite movies. So, I was like. It was funny. You think you're going to know one in the boat laughed because they're all like, what is overboard? What's a classic culture? No  idea. Yeah. She said that no one reacted. I was like, that's a little strange.

Like that's a pretty funny joke. They don't know they have no fucking clue or they were terrified. I'll give them that.  Um, also, okay, so, they get off the boat, Sandoval gets eaten by a seal, and Brock pulls Ariana aside  to talk about forgiveness. Now, I did not write down word for word what was said in this conversation, but, uh, obviously I've brought up grave rocking, which I just learned about, which is like a fantastic technique. 

In my opinion, it makes so much sense. It makes her behavior make a lot more sense.  Um,  not that like, not that I thought she was going to be like buddy, buddy with Sandoval, but I think that like her  approach and  the way that she's positioning herself makes a lot of sense. If you guys don't know what gray rocking is, it's essentially like making yourself as  uninteresting and. 

Like the least interactable that you can be  so that that the narcissistic person does not want to interact with you. So that makes a lot of sense to me. And I like that she's doing that. The conversation comes about because Brock takes her aside and it's just like,  it's a weird conversation. It's like a, Brock is kind of like  saying that. 

This is the problem.  Ariana does not want Sheena  to become friends with Sandoval again.  Sheena would like to move on.  I don't know that she wants to like, kick it with him every day. But I think that she wants to  be okay. And I think that it means a lot to her, for her to be okay with him.  But,  Ariana  doesn't want her to do that and she knows that that would be inappropriate and she just wants Ariana to be okay with something she's not going to be okay with.

So Brock is stepping in to try to be like, he's saying all this bullshit about like, Oh, well, forgiveness. I can't do an Australian accent. So, uh, bear with me forgiveness as well. You got to do it to just like move on to move past the, you know, rage or whatever. I can't do that forever. Um,  and Ariana says, no, I don't.

And I agree with her. I said, Agrees so hard. You never have to forgive someone. You never have to move past the rage. You never have to. And she says like, Oh, well,  or Brock says  something about you don't want to have rage.  Hold on. I'm echoing. Am I echoing to you?  Not to me.  Um,  just make sure. 

Oh, it's cause my little thing is upside down. Hey  cutie.  So  she says, well, male rage is usually accepted. But female rage often gets,  I don't know if it's like looked down upon,  but 

I personally have never felt like her rage was displaced at all. I think that her rage has been completely reasonable every single time that she's had quote unquote rage or she's been fucking angry because she deserves to be angry because fuck, fuck him. You know?  Absolutely. I think that she's responding to something that is deeper than us. 

Yeah, I think. I think that Brock, it was a really weird conversation for Brock. It's, Brock's asking Ariana to forgive Tom for Sheena's sake, and I'm like, that's none of Ariana's responsibility. At all. I love that he was like, don't you want to forgive and move on to be happy, and she's like, I literally don't have to do that, I can be happy despite that.

Yeah. And then I love that she told him like, He's like, don't you want to release, like, the frustration, the anger, the rage? And she's like, I don't, because there's power in those emotions. And, and I think Brock is just  honestly barking up the wrong tree, like, I don't think he's going to get what he's trying to get out of Ariana.

And Ariana's, like, very,  very easily managed to shut him the fuck up with the rage comet. Because. And even Andy made a comment about Ariana's rage this season. Did you, did you see that? Like in the earlier in the season, he made a comment about you're going to see Ariana's rage and anger and then someone collected all the time.

Someone yelled in this season. Oh, I saw the  scale. Yeah, and it's like Ariana's yelled only a few times a season and let me tell you what every single one of those times I was on her side. Mine, the only time I was like, okay, you're like going a little ham is attempted dog murderer. Just that phrasing is so unnecessarily intense, but I get why she said it and I'm not mad.

It's not so crazy that she shouldn't have said it. Like it's still pretty acceptable to say, I feel like, but I feel just to push back really quickly. I feel like that was much, that was a bit much, but  I'm not even pushing back. I agree. Like you say shit in the moment, like. Yeah, that's weird. Sometimes I felt like that was weird.

And every time she talked about calling the police, I don't agree with. Um, yeah, I don't love the calling. We're not abusing the fucking, we're not engaging with the prison system. Okay. We're going to, we're going to,  we're going to sideline that we're not going to call the fucking police. For your piece of shit ex boyfriend that you're choosing to live in a house with, okay?

We're gonna not do that, cause that's very That's a literal misuse of the fuckin system. And System, yeah.  I wish, uh, you're  I hated that. I HATE that. I hate it. Yeah. It's very privileged behavior. You, bitch, you could have moved into anybody else's house, okay, honey? You don't, don't talk about calling the police on this man because he's getting on your goddamn nerves.

He should have been getting on your nerves forever, and you never called the police on him back then, so. Anyway, um, that was obviously that triggers me. So I need to work through that. Well, I mean, but that's not triggered by, but that's not the, the rage component. Isn't what pissed me off. It's not her like emotion and like her.

And so when she's talking to Brock, she makes such a good point about like how  the female rage is like,  it like  ignite something in people where they're like, Oh, I will say too, just to play a little bit devils advocate. I think that because we've kind of always seen Ariana be so chill, I think it's probably more noteworthy.

I think that it's a bigger discussion though, that on the show we have seen men be fucking miserably rageful for no goddamn reason for years. And now it's like kind of shocking to see the women because the women have had to put up with so much, you know?  Right. Well, and for the longest time, Ariana wasn't rageful.

It was always Tiki Lakati is the one who's like the woman filled with rage. It was Stassi screaming at everyone. It was Kristen  doing what Kristen does. It's like, I, I. Is Kristen's rage or is Kristen's.  I think it's just her general unhinged level that she operates at, but  no, I agree. I think, I think that the, the two, the two times she kind of stepped out of line with her verbiage or her actions were not even associated with her rage.

Um, and I think that as a fandom we need to maybe, um, chill on  the angry Ariana shit. I'm, as, as, even though I'm mad at her right now for not watching the show, she still, she doesn't owe us any certain emotion from anything. No, the only thing she owes us is watching the show. Truly. That's all I want.

That's truly what I want, yeah. Be angry as fuck. We love that shit. Just, uh Watch the show. That's all we want. Um, okay. So,  oh, I had to, Oh my God. Damn it. I forgot. So I love raw oysters and I have some in my fridge right now and I was going to have them ready today. Uh, well, I was going to have them ready.

Well, I'm glad I'm not eating them on camera cause they gross you out. Apparently I was like, I'm going to eat these in honor of Schwartz, but someone said online, uh, They were like, we're seeing raw oysters by himself. That's sad. I was like, wow, I do that on a very regular basis. Like I make my own mignonette.

I have three different oyster shucking knives. I have, I have imported oysters from another state before just to eat them. Like I love raw oyster. So.  I really appreciated this moment from Tom, uh, you  apparently did not.  I just, I don't like the, the delivery system of an oyster. The slurp out of the shell is just real vile to me, but that's just a me thing.

I think that if you love oysters,  I love that for you. Um,  are you going to say I don't have to slurp them out of the shell? I can get them with the little fork.  I was kind of going to say that. Yeah.  Well, I was going to say, well, what I was going to say is that you can actually cut them with the knife from the tendon and then slurp them out and it's not as bad, or you could stab them with the fork and then eat it and then slurp the liquid out. 

I,  yeah, it's, I think it's just too close. I don't like fish and I think I'll like fuck with a shrimp. I will eat a shrimp all day, but something about the, yeah, the oysters just don't do it for me. But I love that he's enjoying his hotel room in that way. Um, hopefully, that's honestly probably why he got so horny he asked Katie to fuck later.

That's what, exactly what I was going to say. Same brain. Sorry.  No, no, no, please. He ate all those oysters and got horned up and wants to bone his ex wife now. I love it. I love it. Uh, Lala meets Dan. We talked about that a little bit where she, uh, got kind of horned up by seeing Dan.  Now, some people interpreted this scene as like Dan being  like,  I fucking hate Lala.

Like, some people have taken it to the point of Dan hates Lala because he was being standoffish and I feel like he just is not used to being on camera and Lala is the camera. Okay, Lala Everything about her for everything that I hate about her.  One thing that I don't hate or that I admire or am jealous of is  When she's in a room  people want to fucking look at her  And I don't mean just like, look, because she's beautiful, but because she's very like, I think she like, brings like, an energy of attention that, uh, I would be uncomfortable with if I were fucking Dan, okay?

Yeah. You know? So, I don't know if you had any thoughts about this scene. We already talked about his hair and his body, which are both banging.  Um,  What do I have? I just talked, I literally have seven bullet points about how hot Dan is, if that tells you what you need to know about me. Well, actually, Brady, let me ask you to do something,  because I need to go to the bathroom really quick.

So I'm going to invite you to please read Every single one of those bullet points about how hot Dan is. And I'll be right back.  Go ahead.  Oh, these are so deeply horny and, um, you're going to hear them later. So, um, number one, Dan, um, I want him. I don't, I'm a bottom. Wow. I'm just immediately revealing so much on this podcast.

Um, but I would top just to hold dance ponytail while I'm hitting it from behind. I think that would be really fun. Um, to dance apps. I can't. Three. Of course he's wearing a see through shirt, you gotta show it off. Four, the, the, the bone structure in Dan's face does something for me. The cheekbones, the nose, the jaw, I literally have never seen a more perfect looking human. 

Uh, his teeth, absolutely insane.  Um, he Oh my gosh, I'm not. No, I can't read these other ones. Sometimes when I'm writing the notes, they're, um,  for me, and then also if I'm feeling brave enough, and I'm not feeling brave enough to reveal number six and number seven to the audience at this current moment,  um, but he is so hot and, but the hair does give me an ick, except for the idea of holding onto the hair while I rail him from behind.

So. And Emily just put her headphones back on to hear that last sentence, so.  Run that one back.  Uh, that was number one. Um, I hate the hair, it gives me an ick. However, I want, and I'm a bottom. I also revealed so much about myself while you were gone. Wow. I'm a bottom, but I would top Dan just to hang on to that hair.

You know, like really, wouldn't that be fun?  Oh my god, that would, I hope that Ariana's pegging. I really do. Well, we, we'll hear about Brock and Sheena, maybe.  Good for them. No, I love pegging. I think everyone should peg. I think we need to open up all of our holes, and I think the world would be a happier place.

I think everyone would feel better if everybody let everybody into all of the holes. I do. I love it.  You know, we're here and our mission is to fill holes  on Earth. That's the goal. That is our goal. I also didn't read six and seven because they're too disgusting. I'm not reading them on the podcast. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Well, we'll keep them. We'll keep them here. You did write them down, but we'll keep them. We'll keep them.  Inside, maybe, maybe on your, maybe on part four of this one podcast, we'll get there.  I also, in that scene, the only other thing I wrote down that I thought was really funny was Lala called Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad. 

And as someone who has a tendency to call people by their Instagram names, that made me die laughing. Brad by Brad, that's how I learned who, so I've been following that Brad by Brad for like,  Six or seven years now because Lara from Sex Unique Podcast like brought him up once  and I was like, Oh, what's Brad by Brad? 

And I looked, I literally typed in Brad, B Y, Brad. And didn't come up and then I don't know how I figured it out that it's Brad X Brad, but I've been following him for such a long time and he is like a silent assassin on the show this year, like they're like in the background of all the episodes. He's also like. 

I mean, he's not Ariana's manager, but God, he acts like,  I mean, kind of that way. Don't you think?  I, yeah, it seems like he's like her,  I would call it like emotional support,  best friend slash assistant. Yeah. Like it seems like he's.  She's at a point where she can  allow him to financially live his life and also just be there for her 24 7, it seems. 

It does seem that way. Which is a lit gig with your, you know, being able to work for your friends, that's lit. Thank you, Lindsey Lyne, at Vanderpod Recaps. Yes, at Vanderpod Recaps.  Um, Alright, we get a quick scene, just James weird bubble bath. I just want to say, James is, uh, he's on 10 this entire fucking episode.

He's like swinging from the, I already said, swinging from the rafters on the, uh, stripper pole. He's out of control and then he's in a bubble bath and,  you know, 

I don't know how I would feel about,  I have an, I have an ex who, like, refuses to take bubble baths, like, baths, like, he only takes showers, he will not sit in a bathtub, just, like, cause he has some sort of unfortunate weird trauma, not weird, but it is kind of weird trauma, like, associated with it, and so, like, I've always kind of  felt  weird about guys taking bubble baths, I guess. 

Or when I think about it, I think about that. Like I think about that specific thing, but like seeing James in the bubble bath, I'm like, you are a literal puppet. You're a literal, like Jim Henson  creation for this world that has a terrible sense of direction and morality that is terrorizing alley. And I would be so fucking embarrassed.

Cause I used to be like,  With my ex, I would be like,  well, that kind of sucks that he doesn't like take bubble baths like that's like,  you know, we need to be a little more  cool about random shit, but like, I see James and I'm like,  if I was Allie.  Well, I loved when he was like, Get in, Allie! And she's like, No, I'm not getting bacterial vaginosis for you, Sarah.

Like, I'm not getting that fucking bubble bath. I loved that. Me too.  I love her, and I, I, I do like Allie. Um, James, he was so adorable in the bathtub. Um, his chest hair really does it for me. Um, but he's also a, uh,  abuser. So, you know, I love him. He's disgusting. But sometimes I have to separate the horniness from the man.

Yeah, no, I think it's okay to feel horny about bad men. I think most of the men aren't weird. It's okay to feel horny about bad men. Title of the episode. I think that if  I mean, I think that most of the men that are in pop culture that we feel horny about are probably bad people.  So yes,  that's probably true,  but I, I do, I feel bad for Ally, but I've only, by the way, only heard good things about Ally from people that know her in real life.

So  I'm gonna, I'm gonna be nice about her, decided I like her and I hoping she's using him for fame and attention, and I hope that she.  You know,  Steve's the real James. And if she doesn't now, I hope she does at some point. And I do actually like her. I hope she kind of stays on the show. Like I would like to keep seeing her. 

Oh my God, you, I, I cannot bring myself to listen to cast music on this show.  Oh my God. As soon as we got off, by the way, the other day, when we got off,  I literally immediately listened to one of Sheena's songs. I was like, I need this.  Um, Okay, so my next note says Tom and Katie edge each other, but, 

but for those who don't know what I'm saying, they all go to the twenties party that we mentioned earlier. And you said you had some comments on their, uh, Attire so give it to us.  Oh, yeah, the boys every single one of their outfits is terrible brock looks like shit What are you doing? Oh james wait james was the actual actually the only one that I kind of loved I kind of liked it for the little news boy for the camp for the yeah for the fucking brand It was kind of  it was like  It's kind of like watching jojo siwa like trying to do  like What she thinks is rebellious,  like James trying to do No, Brady, no!

Don't hurt yourself, girl! No, that I was just trying to do karma choreography. In my chair.  That will literally break your fucking neck, okay? And I need you. I don't, I don't know how she does it.  I can't do it.  I can't do it. Um, but it's like the opposite. It's like James trying to,  I don't know, but it works.

He looked,  He looked like he was in  West Side Story or something. Like it looked like a Broadway costume. character actor. Yes, yes. He is. Uh, yes. Um, Sandoval, anytime Sandoval wears an outfit where I can tell Sandoval, like, feels himself, I, The energy that he gives off when he feels himself makes me feel sick. 

It's disgusting. I hated the outfit. Um, Tom Schwartz, okay. Schwartz.  I think he just wore like a minimum.  Yeah.  I don't really remember. All I know is that his hair is finally toned this episode and he looks good again, which I'm so happy about. Okay. So when Schwartz toned his hair,  I was like,  Hey, Oh. I literally, I was watching with Lindsay and as soon as I saw him, I was like, I'm horny for him again.

Like he's hot again. He did it. I'm so proud. I can't he's he's disgusting. He'll marry me in eight years at least. So I know, I know. I'll wait.  I loved when, um, they were talking about the shoes and they're like, James was like, you guys have the same shoes. And she's like, oh, are yours Doc Martens and Arnie goes, no, mine are Steve Madden's. 

Just gray rocking. No minor Steve  Madden's. Bitch, you better get his ass. Yes. Kill him.  Slay him.  Um, then Katie and Ariana go out to the balcony to,  you know, well, we kind of already talked about it, but  the bisexual icons, 

they are part of the bisexual agenda.  Um, Lindsay pointed out to me today that like, Katie's actually never said that she was bisexual, um, on record, but yeah, apparently.  But I think, like,  if you've, if you have, like, copped to having sexual relationships with a woman, then it's  not unfair to, to leap to bisexual.

I don't think that's, like, a crazy thing.  I've had sexual relationships with women and I don't identify as bisexual, but if someone said that about me, I wouldn't be like,  how dare you? I wouldn't do that. On Watch, on Watch What Happens Live, Andy did, they were playing a game and Andy said, you've both, you both identify as bisexual.

Would you ever get into a relationship with each other? And she didn't refute it. She didn't refute it. And then they touched, they like reached their arms out and just touched suggestively, so beautifully.  I thought that was very fake. No, it was very fake. I don't think they're ever going to lesbianize for each other.

But, I could hope for it. Let's get some lesbians on the show. Kyle Richards, where you at? Yeah, come on Kyle.  Come on, you need to be, get the lesbian agenda out there. Yeah, get Morgan Wade on my show. You'll make me love you. I mean, come on. I love that song. That's the lesbian agenda. I'm all about you love me.

That's the lesbian agenda. That is  Morgan Wade.  But here we're talking about the bisexual agenda. Katie and Tom Schwartz,  uh, talk about, uh,  literally edging, like literally, literally edging. They want to lay in bed together. They want And like, scroll on porn, on their phones, and like, seductively eat junk food, and then  never actually fuck. 

I  She said this on the After Show, and I've never, or on Watch What Happens Live, and I've never felt more, um, similar to Katie, where she said, I'm sorry, but like, Laying in bed, eating junk food and scrolling on Tik Tok sounds more intimate than fucking and I'm like, I agree, like, I don't want to hang out with you.

Like, I think if he approached that differently and he was like, Hey, let's bone max 15 minutes and then I'll leave your room. I think he could have had a shot at yes. Yeah, but he tried to make it too much. Um, and take it too far. I made this mistake and I, and I'm glad that we're talking about it now so I can talk about it. 

I made this mistake. I had a guy come over a couple years ago and  I thought because we have kind of like a history so I thought that like maybe we could do like the like just chilling and like kind of like cuddling up and watching TV thing and then he like just wanted to fuck and I was like well  don't you want to like finish the movie and it meant like so much more to me to finish the movie movie and he was like. 

No, essentially, he was like, no, he showed me his body language would say no. And  I think that Katie's on to something 

and I wish I would have learned from her back then, but I didn't know.  Now you know. I needed her back then.  You don't want the intensity of the, of the hanging out. No, you don't. You don't want that.  Um,  so we finish off the episode with. Sheena having a scene with, uh, Tom Sandoval, I would like your  thoughts.

I would like your input. 

I don't know. I feel really  complicated about it.  I think it is really complicated just because, um, it seems like a lot of conversations are happening with people where we're speaking like Brock was speaking to. Ariana for Sheena to forgive Tom, and now we're hearing Sheena talk to Tom to apologize to Ariana for talking about her mental health,  and it just I just would rather have, I would rather see different conversations happening.

This one was really frustrating to me because Tom,  she's asking him to apologize for talking about her mental health. And then Tom literally brings up her mental health being a reason for not doing it. And it's like,  just stop talking about her. I think that like  some, we need to call Dr. Drew, Dr. Phil, Dr.

Oz, a doctor. And we need to have like a legit, like,  Like psychotherapy with all of them together, even, just to figure out, because  does Ariana actually want this apology? I don't think she wants it, because when they flash back to the beach scene, she's just saying he hasn't done this. That's not saying she wants him to.

She's just saying he hasn't. And if he has to be pushed to apologize for using her mental health, By someone else, then he's not coming from a real place if he does apologize. So it all just doesn't. Line up for me, and I'd rather them just not have these conversations. Also,  like,  Sheena says that if he apologizes, maybe they can move forward.

And I'm like, Ariana does not want to move forward with this man. She wants to move out of the house of this man. She does not want peace with him. She wants him out of her life.  But she can't get her life set up in a way that allows that to happen yet.  Yeah, and I think there's like a dual thing happening here.

It's like one thing is like,  well, I also feel like there are conversations happening behind the scenes  and I don't know if they're conversations with Ariana, if they're conversations with like production with Lala, I don't know,  but I think that  if this were an organic thing that happened and it's not, but if it had been, then I would be able to be like, okay, I see. 

I see Sheena, like going off with Tom and being like, Hey, this is like  what you need to do to like move forward. But it's like, what does move forward mean? Does it mean with Ariana? Does it mean like with the show? Does it mean with the audience? Does it mean with her? Like what does that mean? I think  the,  the relationship that Tom and Sheena have is really difficult to understand. 

For me,  I never saw them being super close.  I've had to like really  kind of project just to assume what I think it is, but I don't know that that's true. Like,  I'm assuming that there's a relationship there because she and Ariana are so close and then you're like close with their significant other. But then you think about it and it's like, no, she was friends with Sandoval first  and she kind of caped for Ariana.

Yeah. To come into the group  and  when you put it like that, it's like, okay, but she and Ariana were friends at, uh, Villa, Villa Rica.  Uh, Villa Blanca. Villa Blanca, Villa Rica. What is that? Villa Rosa is her house. Okay, right. So Villa Blanca, I like, combined the two. And Villa Reiki is where Jax goes for healing. 

My god.  So, please don't bring up the fucking Reiki healer today.  So, yeah. I think,  There's a lot of complications in the emotions here that I'm not really honestly willing to tap into. I think it was kind of just inappropriate for Sheena to have this conversation with Sandoval at this time. Yeah.  Yeah, and I think if there If they're in a position where producers are like, film a scene, they should have just talked about what's going on tomorrow for the music setup and left it at that. 

Yeah, but, well, what was funny was Sheena was like I've never once done a soundcheck or rehearsed for a show. I don't sing, so Oh my gosh!  And it's like, you don't sing. And I love that for you. She doesn't, she does not say true. And I love that. She's like, soundcheck for what bitch.  I dance. She said she has it soundcheck or rehearsed.

I'm like, first off, Sheena, you are actually lying. Like, I don't know if you forget, but we literally saw a rehearsal earlier this season when it flashed back to you calling Ariana, her backup dancer. Like,  Oh, you got to. You gotta know when to lie and when to not, especially when we flashback to it in this season. 

She's so warped.  Yeah.  But I love her still.  And then we end that scene, so wow, that was, oh wait, go ahead, go ahead.  I don't even know what I was going to say anymore. So, yeah, we ended the scene. We ended the scene!  Okay, well, that was Faded Pimp Rules. We're going to get into The Valley very briefly. We're going to take one more break.

Boop. 

Alright, so, last time on The Valley, um,  we are going to talk about The Valley just briefly this episode. And I did not do an episode about last week's episode of The Valley.  And I just want to say a couple of things. I, first of all,  I love that everyone hates Kristen. Um, I don't agree, but I think it's very funny that they all like, she got on this show and everyone fucking hates her.

Um,  it doesn't make any sense. It's not like narratively, it doesn't make any sense, but it's very fun as a viewer to watch. Um,  Jesse and Michelle.  Well, in my opinion, and you tell me what you think about this. And I had a,  Rob Schulte said that he thinks that they were broken up before the show.  I agree. I have a similar theory about Jax and Brittany.

Um, What do you think about the state of Jesse and Michelle's relationship prior to the filming of the show?  Um, I mean, their relationship seemed pretty, um, not fulfilling for either of them. Probably, I feel like the way they described their entire relationship, it seemed like not a good relationship. Yep.

Um,  I could also definitely see them not being together and then kind of faking it just so they can have a divorce on the show. I don't, I don't blame them for that. I think that's fine. At least you're like attempting to give me entertaining content. Right. Um,  but it's so funny to watch Jesse just like, be like, we're in this together.

We're a team. It's bringing us close together. And Michelle  is telling you with her face and her body language that she does not give a fuck about you. This marriage or, well, she cares about her family. I won't, I won't say that, but like, she does not want to be in this relationship. Like it is  glaringly obvious and also who is the director.

I need to know who the director is that she's with. I've heard Quentin Tarantino.  I don't know about that.  I don't think it's Quentin Tarantino.  Here's my thing. I don't think that Quentin Tarantino would fuck with,  uh, some random realtor woman, like, I don't think he would.  I think that if Quentin Tarantino wants to cheat on his wife, he's going to find people that are much more famous and interesting than her.

No offense to Michelle.  I also think that when she goes,  Team Michelle and Jesse, like, I think that that was like  everything we needed to know there was no,  there was no reading between the lines. That was it.  Team. No, for sure. Jesse, we get 20. Air one smoothies, like literally.  She was like, I went on a hike,  I did the groceries, I fucked my boyfriend, I came back, I thought maybe you'd like a smoothie, he was like, yeah, he's just like, mm hmm,  team Michelle and Jessie, like, yeah, girl, like, that, that relationship is over, I think that, that it was over before they started filming, but,  our brilliant friend of the show,  uh, Jax Taylor, said, hey, we were  We're gonna put you guys on camera, and it's gonna be great, and he thinks  he's like a mastermind, and he's just like,  I mean, it's not like the show is bad, right?

It's not like the situation is bad, it's like, you are not paying enough attention to your family,  and  Brittany  is 

delusional, I don't know, there's no other,  Word for it, like, and then, and then Zach,  Zach,  Zach, it's just, it's a lot, there's a lot going on, Zach really pisses me off,  mostly because he's like enabling this like,  he's enabling like Lexington culture, I just don't like it, shout out to my Lexington fans, my dad was in Louisville. 

Like, I'm not like a Kentucky hater. My entire, like half of my roots are from Louisville. The other half are from West Virginia. So I'm like, I'm there with you guys. But at the same time I have like.  Hatred and resentment. And Britney,  she's at the forefront of that. I also want to say something else.  I hate Mamaw. 

You don't like Meemaw?  It's Mamaw.  Mamaw?  And I hate her.  Um, uh, she's a homophobic piece of shit. I know that. And I will stand here and say that her cheese sucks. And it's filled with hatred for gay people. I agree.  And Lindsay tried to give them too much credit. She was like, well,  it was like, I was like, no, Lindsay,  this sucks.

It's the, it's the consistency of a whipped cheese, which beer cheese is supposed to be a dippable, like a queso.  It's not supposed to be like a fucking pimento or a fucking, uh, uh,  What's that one whipped cheese? Is that supposed to be like a  cottage cheese or some bullshit? It's supposed to be a queso.

One. And didn't taste like  beer. Didn't have the,  didn't have the robust flavors of a beer boiled cheese.  It was terrible.  You're homophobic and you bake, you make bad cheese. I need you to go back to Kentucky Mamaw.  Bye.  Take Brittany with you and get her out of this terrible relationship with Jax. And please take Sherry.

Please take Sherry. Get Sherry the hell out of here. Sherry's gotta go.  Oh wait, is Sherry the homophobic one? Am I getting Mamaw and Sherry? I'm assuming if Sherry's homophobic, Mamaw probably is too. I think, I think, I think it kind of goes down the chain, yeah. Yeah, it's generational homophobia. It is.  Uh. 

They are not into the bisexual agenda at all. And it would cancel the bisexuality thing. Um,  I think Britney and Jax are,  it's, it makes me really sad to watch Britney beg her husband to love her. Um,  and I want to,  you know, say, well, Britney, you knew what you were getting into. But also, I know that we can all be delusional sometimes, and she was just living in that delusion, I think. 

But I really would like to see them continue the path to divorce because I don't see it being okay with them.  I,  of all of the cast of Vanderpump Rules,  I probably have the least amount of empathy for Brittany.  However,  I  understand  that once they were done with the show,  she had an expectation that  they would have some, some sort of life. 

Uh, I don't know what she thought that life would be because it was still with Jax  and  I met Jax  and I just think that he's going to be that way  no matter what. So if she thought that he was going to be the gossip of the private school that they would enroll Cruz in,  if she thought that he was going to be. 

The hottest husband of her like housewife, like cohort,  she had a certain expectation for whatever the fuck she thought their life would be.  That is  in my opinion,  not,  I don't think, I just don't think she loves the guy. I think that she loves  whatever idea of him she can put on him for the circumstance that they're in.

I do think she loves her son.  Yeah. Um, I think so. I don't know, but I think so. Um,  I think that Cruz,  his. Speech delay  is  not that serious, like, but Jax takes it that way because I think that Jax was raised in a world where, like,  any kind of developmental delay is  a strike against his manhood or against the family. 

I think that maybe Brittany shares that type of  Mindset,  but as the mother she's gonna  be more  understanding. I don't know.  I don't think they should have any more children  No, I don't think she should have more children with Jax at the very least because I I don't know I see I see a lot of people 

Not  I see Jax blaming Britney a lot for things  That  I'm not seeing Britney do like he's talking about how much she's drinking and all this and that and I'm like Is she drinking like  like I've seen her drink on the show But I haven't seen her get like wild sloppy drunk except for that  once maybe or twice on the show  It's just I don't know.

I feel like Jax  Instead of, like, working things out with his partner, it feels like he's prone to just, like, attacking them. And, like, it, and then I think Brittany just starts doing the same thing back, and it's just toxic. It doesn't feel healthy. Um,  and it, yeah. I think she, when you said that she's in love with an idea of him, I see that.

I think that she sees. In her head,  because like, divorce probably isn't an option, she's pro in her head, it's probably not, at least like her family values or whatever, I would guess.  She has to live with that idea of him, and I think that idea is slowly crumbling for her, and  I don't think he'll ever be different.

I think Jax is Jax is Jax, and I don't think that will ever change.  I agree.  That being said,  moving on just a little bit, just so we can move through, um, Kristen is with Luke  and in this episode,  it,  there's this weird conversation that Luke has to have with Kristen about her  lying a lot, I guess.  What did you take from that?

Because I thought, I thought it was kind of weird that like,  he had a conversation with her where he was like, Hey,  I just had, I just talked with the guys. Yeah.  Everybody thinks that you just like lie a lot for no reason. And she was like, yeah, I do kind of  do that. It's like,  but she's not so far. She's not telling lies.

But so far  while her information may be misguided, like  Jesse and Michelle are breaking up, like  they have a terrible relationship. So what is this going on? Do you think?  I,  I am struggling to understand it too, because it's.  It seems like in this specific situation, they kind of hone in on the fact that she changed one word? 

Like, wasn't it that she said, like, she's  Jesse's leaving Michelle? Instead of,  um, Michelle leaving Jesse,  so, 

so 

sorry. 

Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. You're good. Okay. So, um, during the conversation, Luke says like the, a word changes and the implications of what she said are different. And she kind of accepts that the way she heard it and the way she said it. Uh, we're different, but then she kind of says like, but the group knows what they're doing, um, by like making her the villain in this, by changing a word, they know that, like, they tried to get skeletons out of Kristen's closet by bringing her ex boyfriend around.

So Kristen, I think justifies. Spreading this rumor because  everyone on the cast is kind of trying to get the skeletons out. So I think she doesn't see it as that bad. And Luke is just  beyond frustrated in this conversation, seeing his reaction to her, but she is kind of being a little hard headed too.

Yeah. So I don't, I don't really know. It's, it's tough to say who's right and wrong in this, but I don't think Kristen is wrong. Everyone knows about the rumor. And she just was the one who said it. And I think that we need to, I think as fans, we need to praise the people who say the damn things because so often on these shows, things aren't said, and then we get less fun and less drama out of it.

So I am a fan of Kristen coming in and saying she has a boyfriend. She's leaving him, whether it's true or not, I could care less. I really hope they fail at icing her out because she keeps it messy and she keeps it fun and that's what I enjoy. I totally agree. I totally agree. Um,  I also think,  yeah, I think that they're trying to kind of like one up her reality TV wise.

They're like, oh, well,  we.  She thinks that she knows everything. We'll show her. That's how I feel Janet is. And I feel like Janet is like,  Ugh, such a sinister, dark woman.  I think she's a dark woman. I'm, I need Janet  to actually bring something to the show, other than I'm pregnant and hungry. I'm so bored of hearing that.

We get it. You're hungry. Um, she's brought zero drama, but you always see her hovering around the drama, which leads me to believe she's Lisa Phanter pumping in the back, and like,  I think she's like,  Relaying information and being shady, but I would much rather watch Janet just do that out in the open. Um, then secretly, uh, I loved.

I think Janet, I think the cast knows that Janet kind of is a sniper from the side because Luke made a comment on Balancing Act this week about, um, actually, no, it came out yesterday. Uh, he was talking about Reddit.  Yeah, he was talking about Reddit and how some people you can have, you know, so many anonymous accounts on Reddit and then he goes, Janet,  like, and coughs to try to cover it up.

But you heard that it was Janet and. I could see her being that kind of like sneaky, sneaky drama person, but I need her to bring something to the show. I'm so bored of her.  Her husband is beautiful. Nice man.  So bored of him.  Um, Danny and Nia, I find boring too.  Danny's hot. Sure. Nia's gorgeous. Oh my god. Um, although Nia's, I do, I am enjoying seeing Nia's journey with postpartum depression or just depression, which Nia, it's okay to just have depression.

A lot of us do. Yeah. You can say that you have depression. Um.  I, I do enjoy that. Danny's not giving anything. Who else is even on the show other than them? Oh, Jasmine. We got, yeah, we got the two side buddies, Jasmine and Zach. Zach, I've already talked about. Um, I hate him in every way, but he is me and I love him. 

Does he remind you of yourself? No, it was, I hated everything about him until he opened his mouth on the show. And I was like, fuck. It was an upsetting realization. Uh, I enjoy Jasmine. She gets into the drama a little bit. Um,  but yeah, I  I really hope they don't succeed in icing out Kristen because she just brings it.

All right. Well, Brady, I feel like we've gone across all the couples. Oh, Jasmine,  Jasmine, love Jasmine. She's starting drama, having lunch with Jax, getting the tea. I like someone who moves the storyline along. And she has such a history with reality television. She was on, uh, the bachelor. She was on, um,  yeah, she was on Nick Vial's.

Uh, uh, season of The Bachelor.  Interesting. Nick Viall, who I hate.  I don't hate him, but I hear he's horrible. I only don't hate him because I find him very attractive. And as we know, I am swayed by my horniness.  Well, I encourage you to look at his pictures from before. So any, like, last thoughts about The Valley?

They're not having a reunion. I think that's trash. I think that's trash behavior on Brahma's part. I do think it's trash behavior. Um, and then I keep hearing rumbles that like Jax is just gonna have a reunion at Jax's and I'm like, okay. I have heard, so, you remember RuPaul's Drag Race? All Star 7, the all winner season, they didn't have a reunion for that.

So two of the queens, Bob and Monet, I think hosted like a, a reunion for it and like recorded it. They did everything. It was like ready to go. And then the production company was like, you can't release that like fake reunion. Like that's not a part of our show. You can't do that. So I wonder if Evolution will shut that down if they try to like do their own independent reunion. 

No, they won't.  Yeah, but I'll, yeah, if they have it like at Jax's and live stream, I could see them not being able to really control that. So that might be good. They can't control him. I paid 10 for a live stream. I would pay 10 bucks.  Uh, I'll fly, I'll pay the 400 fucking dollars to fly out there and then whatever it is to, like, be  out there.

What's the cover of Jax's tent for, uh, the reunion? No cover. No cover.  No cover. Just bring Jax, just bring Jax a bag.  Period.  Oh my god, Brady, thank you so much for coming on and thank you so much for weathering through the storm of all of the interruptions and the, The time jumps. What,  what do you think is going to happen  going forward with Vanderpump?

If you had like one prediction,  My prediction keeps changing because my prediction, like post them filming the reunion was Ariana leaves the show. Right. Um, and then when love Island came out, I was like, she's leaving the show now that it's on pause, I'm not so sure what the T is, um,  My dream. I'll tell you my dream.

Um, we  don't come back with Vanderpump Rules. We start The Real Housewives of West Hollywood. And we center the show on the women that we love and we get rid of the fucking men. I  don't want men on my show.  I do, because I'm incredibly horny for them. But I, I just, I just want I want to see their friendships thrive, and I think the men are holding us back from that.

Um,  and so, if I can say anything, I hope that they figure out a way to get rid of Tom Sandoval so Ariana can feel comfortable coming back and not traumatized at all times. We can keep Brock. I want to see that budgie smuggler. Uh, but I would like to see them maybe  focus on the women more. Yeah. That's what I would love. 

I think that's fair. I think I want,  I want what's ever best for the, the literal show. I don't want to see like the Tom Schwartz dates, the Sophia girl thing. Like that's like a YouTube show. That's not a Bravo show. But if you guys want to do like,  You know, like they want to do like YouTube series and like,  you know, be fun on influencer places they should.

But I don't think that that should be like a  Bravo show. Um, I think that Tom Sandoval is.  Gonna need to like release a tour video or something like to be interesting I think that all of them  need a break and I need a break and  We all need a break. Well  Brady tell the people where they can find you Okay, I've been thinking about this and I want to say this before we leave Okay, the thoughts and opinions expressed by Brady will suffer do not represent the thoughts and opinions of Lindsay Lyme or Vanderpod recaps out.

Oh, such a good point. They are that everyone knew that because they're listening to me and they already know that Lindsay's always like Emily and Emily, your opinions are ridiculous.  So I just would like to make that clear that whatever I express does not reflect what Lindsay thinks or what Vanderpod recaps thinks.

Um,  I would love for everyone to follow us at Vanderpod Recaps to get all of your podcast recapping beads. And, um,  yeah, just,  just,  Don't  take Bravo too seriously. That's what I'll say to keep it fun. I agree. Let's keep it fun. And you guys know where to follow me at who TF knows Emily Rose. It's at who TF knows Emily Rose on Instagram, WTFK, Emily Rose on Twitter.

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