Vanderpump Rules Reunion PT 2 RECAP ft @vanderpodrecaps !!

Emily Rose and Lyndsay talk all things Jo, Anastasia, Polar Express, Brittany and Jax, and OF COURSE Part 2 of the Vanderpump Rules Reunion! 

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  Hello, hello, hello. This is Who the Fuck Knows with Emily Rose. I'm Emily Rose reporting live from my bed and three heating pads to bring you yet another Vanderpump Rules Reunion Recap. We are on hour two of this event and with me again I have Lindsay of Vanderpod Recaps. Lindsay, how's it going?  It's going well, you know, just more VPR, more reunion talk. 

So much reunion talk. Uh, before we get into any of that, I do want to say a very huge thank you to everyone. Well, two thank yous. One to everyone who reached out to me about my health. Um, incredibly long story short, I am getting my gallbladder taken out on June 5th. So until that time, uh, I'm probably going to be pretty low energy.

I feel kind of low energy today. So I'm sorry if I'm not super, um, invested, but. Thank you to everybody who reached out. It really means a lot. I also want to say something else  before we get started Thank you to everybody who because I've been kind of bitching and moaning the past few episodes about like fan feedback audience reception reviews things like that and I actually haven't gotten any bad reviews since The last one, which was a few weeks ago.

So first of all, thank you to everyone who has reviewed. If you haven't leave me a five star review, um, five star rating and a review, if you'd like to show, say something nice, it means a lot. Um, but  especially to the people who have reached out and been like, I really appreciate your perspective and I really appreciate your take.

I know some people have been like, I don't always agree, but you know, I really like listening to your recaps. That means a lot to me because there's kind of a.  I don't know, phenomenon, I think that might be a bit much, but there's a situation going on right now with some podcasters and content creators  where I do think that things are getting taken a little too far. 

As far as like your opinion about, not you, I'm not talking to Lindsay, I'm talking to, or the listeners are listening to my podcast. You guys don't do this, but  I've seen where people are getting carried away  with content creators. Because they disagree, like, I'm not going on other, I, I, there's lots of podcasts that I've listened to for years that  I feel like  I wouldn't expect them to have such a different opinion than me now, but they do.

And I would never go on their stuff and be like, this is trash, even though sometimes I feel like there are shows that pander to the audience.  Because they, they don't want to get the kind of negative feedback. And I kind of get that too, because there are some shows like,  um, God, I don't really listen to the Sarah Fraser show, so I don't know much about her.

I think she might be controversial, but she did what I thought was, I thought she did like a kind of, I thought it was kind of funny. Like intentionally meant to be funny, but then I turned it turns out maybe not she She was very pissed off because she went did something about her opening and she waited in line for five hours now I'm inclined to say don't wait like once we get to 35 minutes if you're not happy you got to get out of there  But she posted a very heated  angry Bethany, uh,  Bethany coded kind of take because she didn't end up getting a sandwich.

She waited in line for five hours. She had some suggestions for their marketing, some suggestions for how the day should have run. And I kind of agree. I'm kind of shocked.  They surely, they knew they were going to have, I mean, the line around the door was used. All the time leading up to this. So I think that maybe there was some volume control, like deterrence and marketing things they could have done to kind of make that line, if not shorter, more tolerable.

And so I agree with her there. And so then she posted this, she kind of came back and did kind of like, I'm sorry. I was a little out of line. I was kind of hangry. Here's how I really feel.  But people were then DMing another content creator. That's friends with her. This is what's crazy.  Another content creator, uh, Donna, who I know is also controversial, but I'm just saying,  she like, said something or reposted what Sarah posted, and people were being mean to damn Donna about it.

It's like, guys,  every other, if this were any other sandwich shop in anywhere in the world, and somebody posted a, I can't believe that I had to wait five hours in line, type ass, you know, video.  It's one thing to say, like, you're losing it on theirs, but to, like, then send hate to somebody else? That's where it's getting, I think, in my opinion, carried away.

And then,  I think that, like,  you know,  I don't even, I cannot talk. I think  The sandwiches looked a lot better for the opening than they did for the, uh, friends and family tasting. So hopefully that's like kind of what their goal is to be in that realm of sandwich making. Uh, because those look very good.

They look delish.  Yeah, the only, go ahead. No, no, go ahead.  The only thing that I will say about with Sarah is I am someone who very much I don't listen to her podcast anymore, but I very much did, particularly during the scannable times,  I was very shocked to hear she was even going to the something about her opening because of how she talks in her podcast.

So for my personal opinion, I think it's a little weird. And I honestly, in my opinion, I think she went there to look for something wrong, just because she's not a fan. No. Okay. Unless no.  Maybe her content has changed right  from what I remember. I just remember listening to her podcast being like, wow. And I mean, she said how she felt.

It was pretty much like, I remember it being like the extreme opposite of what people are saying, which again, people, you know what I mean? Can like feel that way. But then when I saw her at the, something about her opening, I was like, that's interesting. And for her specifically her to wait in line that long, I was like, okay, I think you were, you were wanting it  to be bad.

Like you had this thought. Now,  her having the suggestions on what they could do, and people posted this on Reddit of like, oh man, like I was in line, I wasn't able to, you know, get it.  Those are valid, like, Disappointments. I don't think Sarah was that disappointed like again. Okay. I see what you're saying.

Yeah, that's just like my thought with it. Um, also I think the criticism is valid, but her being the voice of it was odd. She's already kind of doesn't like them. I see what you're saying. Yes, that was odd to me. Now then going after Donna, who I've talked to his so kind.  Um,  I don't, I wasn't, I only listened to her podcast when it like comes out on Apple, but she does it live on YouTube.

I don't know what was going down, but I think she ended the podcast early and just stopped it, because I think comments were coming in, in like,  People, you got to understand that criticism or saying you don't like something is not a teardown of the person or saying you don't like anything you and me or anything about it.

But also, if you don't like anything about it, or if you don't like the person that is okay to totally, but you know, I mean, there's a way to talk about it. So  that's what I don't understand. What is getting so lost and we're even seeing it with like the valley and people being like I can't stand Janet. I need her off my tv and all this stuff.

I'm like so who do you do we not want mess anymore? What do you want from your reality tv? And me and Rob talked about this because he was like. Thank you, because I said, like, you know, I can't stand Jax, but damn, I love to watch it. And he's like,  yeah, like this, we're getting away from this, like,  hearing me in this narrative.

And like, there's something about her opening, like,  you know,  I was surprised. I was like, man, like they had to have known it was going to be crazy. Right. But then like their PO system, like stopped working for a little bit. No one can prepare for that. And so, and then they started running out of sandwiches, you know, like it's, it's going to be messy.

And you're allowed to talk about that, especially if you're there. And I know some people.  Like flew out, you know what I mean, like flew out there to be there, but then they also have to know like it's opening day, it's going to be crazy. But it's like, it's okay to have these conversations for not to be like, ah, you like, how dare you say anything?

You know, even though Sarah, I think it was weird. She was there, but she still has the right to say what she's going to say. You know, like you're allowed to speak. And it just feels like we're not, none of us are allowed to speak right now. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And, and like I said, that Sarah did go back and kind of say, Hey, I was a little extra in my last recording.

So I guess it's good to be self aware. I also just want to say she mentioned it. Sarah did on her podcast that, um,  there was a reporter there that.  From some Hollywood, something or other. And I ended up finding the article that the reporter wrote. And she said many of the same things that Sarah said, but ultimately her conclusion was like, even though it was a bummer that we didn't get a sandwich, the, the vibes were really, really good.

Like people weren't like outraged. They weren't like boycotting. They were so willing to stand there. So my takeaway from that is hopefully  the team. Learns from this experience and is more prepared for the next couple of weeks for big lines because  People genuinely want to be there and they are taking time and it isn't fair It isn't yeah So have to wait in a five hour line when you've had two years to prepare and you've had this time to really be Prepared now the POS system.

I knew that was gonna happen because POS systems You Just, they want, they want you to fail more than the haters like POS systems want for, for restaurants to fail. So Oh God, did we freeze again?  Oh,  call me Elsa, honey, because we're frozen. Oh, are you back? We're, we're back. The, the, the universe said you will not be talking about POS systems, girl.

I was like, excuse me. Um, no, but yeah, POS systems, they fail all the time. Very, very normal. I figured that was going to happen. Um, Or it was probably, it was probably updating. Cause technology loves to update when you're trying to run shit.  So yeah, all of that. And then on another note, another content creator had to kind of come out.

Uh, reality bites. I'll just say who it is. Cause they weren't, this was public. They came out and we're like, Hey. We have a different perspective and that should be okay with you and I agree with them. They are Producers by trade. This is what they do. They work on the shows that we're watching. They work on Southern Charm They worked on Vanderpump Rules.

They know these people  I understand, like, I don't, I, I know kind of where they stand with, like, Lindsay and Carl. You don't watch Summer House, right, Lindsay? Or you're not caught up? I'm starting it for the first time. Um, but I know about what's happening within the Carl and Lindsay universe right now.

Okay, so, I don't agree always with their, they, with their takes on like Carl and Lindsey. I also know that Lindsey is a pretty polarizing person because she's notoriously really rude to fans. Uh, so that kind of, I love Lindsey as a reality TV character, but I don't like that she's rude to fans, allegedly.

Um,  But I'm not like  just no one should get to a point where they're like,  Oh, I can't listen anymore. Like, even if you can't listen anymore, it's kind of like announcing that you're leaving Facebook, right? Remember when people used to announce that they were leaving Facebook? No one wants that person. No one likes that person.

Just fucking leave. And if you, if you're gonna.  Leave, I don't know. I just, if you're not going to, if you don't agree,  then just stop listening. Do you know how many podcasts I've stopped listening to that also I'm going to pick right back up when like Beverly Hills comes back or OC just because like,  I know where they stand on things like that and I agree.

And so I'm going to listen to them for that, but their takes on Vanderpump just don't really align with mine. I don't need to make a goddamn announcement about it. I don't need to tell them.  Finally,  the last pedestal that I need to stand on.  Again, I just really appreciate the people that listen to me through these things because I, I, I can understand that it's frustrating that I have been talking a lot, but I'm not going to stop talking just because I think that some people might be annoyed by it because that's  not my problem. 

Uh,  you know,  words like patriarchy and misogyny,  they're used, they're systems, patriarchy, the patriarchy is a system.  Uh, white supremacy is a system. Capitalism is a system. These are things that, in American society, and shout out Canada! I had Australia as the second, uh, continent slash country that was biggest, that listened to me.

Canada just surpassed them. So what's up Canada? Hey Canada!  So,  right, in America we have these systems that the country was kind of built under and that we operate under. And all I'm gonna say is this. 

Vanderpump Rules has always been rooted in misogyny.  If you look at the, all of the cast members, all of them from Sheena with the gang bang comment and sharing Stassi's allegedly sharing Stassi's sex tape to Katie, the whore in there  and calling people whores and every which way everybody, but a child, but a child of God, uh, Stassi, Colin, Sheena, Stassi, Kristen, and Katie, all, uh, ganging up on Sheena for being a whore, uh, Ariana calling Kristen ugly and uninteresting and diagnosing her with borderline personality disorder on the reunion.

And, uh, it's Sandoval and everybody. James. Is, lives his life as a poster boy for misogyny. That's how he lives his life.  As long as they are taking a check from the show, they are actively participating in what the show is rooted in, which is misogyny.  And I don't, I'm not angry at them for that.  Because I enjoy the show.

I think we're going to get to it this week. Uh, Joe,  Joe Winberg did an interview on Vanderpump rules party podcast. And at one point she said, someone said, well, you know, how was Sheena, you know, Sheena nice to you or something. She said, well, Sheena's really good at compartmentalization. And I laughed because she said about Rachel.

Or maybe it was Rachel, whoever she said it about. Yeah, it was about Rachel. I was like, that's not a good thing.  That's, that's a, as a fellow, compartmentalization is my number one coping mechanism. Uh, it's not always healthy. And it can put you in some really dangerous situations because you are so  compartmentalized that you don't, you're like, uh, warning triggers, your harm sensors are off because you've put things in so many different boxes.

It can be dangerous. I, that's how I literally, that's, I relate to Sheena that way, I relate to Raquel in that way. I think  I can therefore I can watch the show understanding that like it's rooted in misogyny and that all of these people have participated in misogyny and patriarchy that doesn't make particularly other viewers like a misogynist at heart.

It doesn't mean that and the terms are not meant that they're meant to describe systems, particularly patriarchy.  And misogyny is, is meant to describe like active hatred against women. You got people like Andrew Tate out here living  and  his whole weird crew of people, fresh and fit, um, sneaker, that whole weird fucking crowd of men  that are like monetizing on YouTube every day that we, that we walk and to call. 

Some podcasters misogynist because they empathize with like,  Carl's, uh, frustrations with Lindsey or because they, um,  or because for this happened to me, I'm going to stop telling the story after this, but like to call me misogynist,  because I think that Katie is not entertaining and I don't find her like, Mean behavior funny, and I think that she lets really wild shit fly out of her mouth  to like  call me misogynist because I feel that way and then go and say that like Lala's a hoe who  Is just mad because she can't suck Randall's dick for a PJ anymore because that's what's happening people are calling other people misogynist and  factors of the patriarchy Cause they don't like something about her as a name for a sandwich shop  and then they're going and calling Lala a broke down hoe. 

There's  a disconnect there and I keep talking about it because I, again, I know a lot of people that listen to this podcast don't engage on in discourse other than, you know, watching the show, but it is really important to understand, particularly I think  in this reunion, because what the. The last cast member, I think I said this last week, is the audience.

And I feel like all of them are censoring themselves because they are getting paid to maintain an audience. And they are afraid that if they  stray from whatever the audience narrative is right now, that the showrunners and Bravo have also kind of, um, taken part in  producing and making a narrative  that they won't.

That they'll lose their fan base and they'll lose their money.  So  I think it's important for us to remember that when we're engaging discussion,  especially around, and honestly, I'm, you tell me if you want me to take this out, I will.  When you posted your recap of Joe on the Vanderpump rules party podcast, there were people in your comments coming for the Vanderpump rules party podcast girls.

I'm like,  that's not  what we're. Here to do, you know, like, I just think that's an appropriate. And I think,  I think that coming for the content, do you know how many content creators I think are unhinged that I don't name or go after, like, There is a Bravo content creator, Snark, and I, I would like to say,  if you are not a fan of my podcast,  there's a Bravo content creator, Snark page, and I welcome you to go there and post about it, um, and please stay out of,  just stay out of my reviews, okay?

I don't care what you talk about me,  please stay out of my reviews,  if you really, if you have to go say, God damn, that Emily Rose is  so self righteous, please You're not wrong. Go talk about it outside of my reviews. Please,  please, please. Um, so yeah, I'm off my pedestal now. I'm off my high horse.  I'm, I'm ready to embrace a new day.

Um, just remember that  I know I have dissenting opinions.  I might not always be on the wrong right side of history with things, but I also keep in mind that all of these people are lala's the most vocal about what she's protecting. I don't even know if she totally knows what she's protecting, but they're all protecting something and I don't think any of them, oh, lemme say one more thing.

I also see a lot of comments of people being like,  summer house. This like, girl, girl thing, girl group. This is what we could have had on Vanderpump rules. 'cause all the girls are kind of like, you know Mm-Hmm. standing together.  Guys, we never could have had that on Vanderpump Rules. I don't know how many times I have to say it.

Not only because the, like, personal dynamics are different, but because we do not see as much of the Vanderpump Rules, like, their day to day lives as we see of the Summer House cast. The Summer House cast,  we kind of see them in a big brother situation. We see them three straight days. We see them in their bedrooms.

We see them, well, Bitch Sesh had a, um, Someone write in anonymously and say that they have a friend who's a PA on summer house and their one job is to like clear all the coke and other drugs, uh, before cameras come up at the party. Where do I sign up for that job. I know, I know, I know. Um, so anyway.

That's just to say, like, we've also seen the dynamics change with the girls on camera. Like, Paige says in this season to Amanda on camera, I never thought I'd say this,  but I'm actually starting to really feel bad for Lindsey. We don't see that on Vanderpump Rules. I don't know whose fault that is. Some of it's the nature of the show.

We see, like, so much conversation between the Summer House cast in this short period of time. But think about all the dynamics. That have changed that we haven't seen between the women on the show, uh, Kristen and Ariana is probably the best example. We didn't know we never got to see them become friends.

Um, I chose not to show that too. I'm, I'm learning. I think it's a lot of, um,  I think a lot more is said with the girls, but I'm noticing the editors or who, uh, all everyone involved with it, they, they very, um,  They don't want to show the girls getting along. They just don't. We see, we see a great example of this on the reunion.

We'll get to it with the, Oh, I can't wait  to talk about that because I'm going to call a flashback to when me and you originally talked about that conversation. Um, yeah, it's, it's a good, it's good. Uh, wait, are you going to call me out on my bullshit? No, I, Emily, I do not.  You and Brady love to talk shit.

No, it was something that me and you are. We're just amazing. And we call shit out. And we,  when we go into that scene, I'll tell you, I'll let you know, I can't wait. Okay. Haters stay tuned.  Oh my God. Okay. I'm done. Ranting and raving. I'm so sorry. Blame it on the gallbladder. Okay.  Let's move on to Vanderpump news.

Anything cool happening in Vanderpump rules world? I mean, you know, Schwartz was on his podcast tour last year or last year, last Lord, last week. And then Joe was like, hold my hat. I'm going to go on a podcast tour this week, so  she's been on, hold my hat. She  is, was on Vanderpump rules. A party podcast and then today she was on Rachel's podcast and  um,  I'm, I'm not gonna lie, it's been, it's getting harder for me to talk about Jo because I'm realizing now she is triggering the hell out of me because she reminds me, as I've told Emily, I had a friend in my past that would just tell the most of me.

Insane lies and would pull stuff out of her ass. And I'm seeing that with Joe. So I'm finding myself to not want to be kind, but  I don't want to get to that place. All I can say is with Joe on a podcast, she,  she contradicts herself a lot. She talks all over the place. However, I do think if she was able to  interview with someone that  could keep her. 

And like  in reigned in and also and here's the thing Rachel's podcast with her wasn't as chaotic, right, then her other one. Um, Rachel, I think actually had some pretty decent questions as far as asking her.  But yeah, Joe is just, she's a hard person to listen to. And then like, it just comes out that she just like really just says blanket lies.

And here's the thing. Like we obviously watch a Vanderpump rules show where we're like, none of these people are being honest, but it's about, they're  just though, but it's not them just like making up these like detailed stories when someone else has proof of like, this is not what happened. You know what I mean?

That is just like this girl.  She, it will be very unethical if they ask her for back for season 12. I'm just going to say that she does not need to be on reality TV. It is not a good place for her and I think that would be very just irresponsible for sure. Yes. Irresponsible for them to if there is a season 12.

Um, honestly, I was talking, I was on reality outs podcast last night and she made a good point. She was like,  Shorts would probably fight you. I mean, if they ask her back for a season 12, because the whole dynamic of her coming back would be  to interact with him. Right. So, yeah, and that would be awkward.

And she's not a main cast member, so we don't really need to see how she,  what her story's done. Yeah. One great thing. Uh, we'll get there, but I think a way to sum it up, kind of how I feel is that like, it was weird when, uh, Schwartz starts talking about his new girlfriend and then he goes, I don't know, I don't want to talk about it, I don't want to be offensive to Joe.

And for a split second, for some reason, I thought he was going to say, I don't want to offend Katie.  Oh, interesting. I think it's just because Truly, that is the dynamic that the audience is invested in. Katie, how does Katie feel about the new girlfriend? You know, I think that that's, that'll sustain, um, my curiosity.

I don't, we don't really need you. I also want to say  Vanderpump Rules Party, they've been doing this for a really long time. They've been, they're like one of the pioneers in the Vanderpump Rules podcasting space, and  they don't often have guests.  So I think that That coupled with, I don't know if,  I don't know how they all got in the same room, but I think that that coupled with, you know, being with her, I'm sure there were conversations that were, took place before and after the interview, I think it probably Joe's a lot.

And I think that  you got to be really structured going into it. And they're not used to that because they typically, if they have a guest, it's going to be like Ronnie and Ben from watch, right? They're like, yeah. Seasoned professionals at the podcasting game, I think that they probably  just thought they had, I thought they, they, they thought they were just going to ask their questions and get answers.

And Joe said, no, ma'am, not today. Okay. Um, so yeah, it's no, it's literally no hate to Holly and Sarah. It's no, not at all. It's just seems to have a lot of energy.  And I made a joke on Instagram.  I said I would give another organ to interview Joe.  And a lot of people, um,  a lot of people replied and said, you know, reach out.

And  I'm, I'm gonna think about it. If you guys want me to interview Joe,  DM me, and I'll think about it. I also am concerned because of some of the things that seem to be untruths or flat out lies.  I don't wanna, I don't wanna get caught up. I'll never forget, uh, Blondhair Blackheart, the podcaster and Bravo content creator.

When he, Interviewed the, um,  the guy that claimed to be being paid by Lisa Rinna and Kathy Hilton to like attack someone else. I can't even remember the guy's name anymore, which is good because that person I think was a little bit of a scammer, but also there's smoke fire.  Uh, I'll never forget when he interviewed and then like a week later came out that most of that person's like whole persona was a complete farce  and how bad that content creator felt and like, they're like, I feel like I was duped.

Now, who knows, maybe they were all in on it together, but I just thought to myself, I never want to be that person. So I'm going to see how Joe does. I need to tune into her next live. I've never watched a live of hers before, and I've heard it's a.  So, she usually goes live on what, like Saturday nights?  Uh, who, Jo?

Uh huh.  Mm, her, while she hasn't, I feel like she hasn't been going as live as often, but she, it is very, I don't know, it's kind of sporadic now when she goes live. I would be interested, one thing we learned about her from that episode, She's a big Bravo fan. She is a fan, like, a little bit, at least of Bravo, and I don't think she says,  well, who knows? 

I'd be interested on some of her other takes. I'd be interested on some of her, you know, maybe she has some Beverly Hills takes or some OC takes that I could, you know, Get some information from, I told Lindsay, she should have a Bravo podcast. Cause at least she watches the damn shows. I don't know what the hell Rachel's out here doing.

Bless her. I love her, but God damn it.  I told you don't put that out in the universe. What? Oh,  I know. Joe and Rachel should have a Bravo podcast together. I wonder if Rachel watches Bravo shows. I'm going to have to, I know she watches the Valley. She literally posted her watching the Valley. Cause one of the, I think pageant girls was on it.

So I think she does watch. Well, speaking of the valley,  crazy thing happened in the world. Um, I know you want to talk about it. That's all I want to talk about. I know, I'm sorry, I've been dissenting this whole time. Oh no, you're fine. Listen, no.  Listen, okay,  this week, the cast of the valley, a lot of them, Went to Jackson studio city.

Shout out G shout out, Rob, our friends. They've been on my show. I've been on theirs. Uh, they went to Jackson studio city. They got the inside scoop this time. Um, and Jax was not there. He was being sad boy on Instagram  and he was being a Tumblr girl. He was being a Tumblr girly. And  who is it? Brittany, Zach, Kristen. 

Who else was there? Janet was Janet there.  No, I think Nia. I think Nia was there. Yeah, so pretty. So pretty. Um, they're all really pretty. Um, So, they were all there, but guess who else was there, guys? Lindsay, tell them. Tell them! No other, no other than Miss Lori Kay. And, guys,  there's no one in this universe that can tell me. 

That Laurie Kaye and Jax did not fuck. I do not care. But this photo comes out  of the girl who was in the photo, her name is Lindsay Love on Instagram. And I don't know relation to the cast or anything, like if she's friends or what, but  she posted the photo of, yeah, it was Zach, Brittany, Laurie Kaye was right by Brittany, and I think it was Nia, Kristen, and then Lindsay. 

We're all like, what the fuck? So the Bravo investigator, Dana, she  posted the video, posted the photo and was like, I got questions. I'm confused. And no other than machine is Shane commented on it. And she said, what the fuck? And I was like, yeah, this, this is what I need. This is all. So Sheena's got questions.

Yes. So it's like, okay. So. Is, you know, and you always have to think too, like, okay, is the, are they doing all this right to gear up for season two of the valley? Is this all, you know, really happening in an authentic way? I don't know. I kind of don't care. I don't care. Because, in my mind, Lori Kaye, she'd be fucking everybody and she ran a train, she ran a train, a consensual train.

I know some people, I got some comments because I talked about how like re watching the episode I lost my damn mind. When Katie, they showed the flashback and she was like, I'll run train all through your restaurant. And that is so funny to me because it's the most wild thing you can say. It's grammatically  incorrect.

It's, it's a great sentence. It's a great sentence. But just to be clear, I know some people are like, it's a little controversial to say, whenever we're talking about running trains, these are always consensual trains. Everyone's saying yes on this, on these trains.  Totally, we're like Polar Express level of, this is not the train that fucking Anastasia and what's his name were on that Razbuten's weird minions like discombobulated, okay?

We're not on that train. No, we're on like the Polar Express. Everybody wants to be on it and it's okay. So that is whenever we say that just just want to make that clear. But yeah, I think Lori K has ran train through all the Valley cast and I'm here for it and I want to know more about it. And apparently Sheena herself. 

Has questions. So either  Britney like really thought the rumors were true and now they're all trying to say Lauren Kaye and Jax are trying to tell her like no it's not true and she now hasn't got that memo yet or I don't know but I just I am thrilled by it all. There's an argument to be made  that  Perhaps,  as her publicist, that being a major headline,  that Jax was sleeping with this publicist just makes her bad at her job, and maybe Brittany said, I need to find a publicist that won't let stories about my publicist sleeping with my husband, you know?

There's a, there's a, there's an argument there, but it's not a fun argument, it's a boring fucking, that's, I'm, I'm team train.  I'm team train. Yeah, like,  that's all I'm gonna be. So I know,  I don't know. And Brittany, and Brittany re follows Lori now. So,  you know, she doesn't re follow Jax yet. Um, she's following Lori.

And so, Brittany's girl power.  You know what? And actually good for Brittany, because, you know, maybe she'll actually. Not go back to Jax. I, I don't know. I don't, I'll believe it when I see it because they're still podcasting together and it's still really fucking weird. Yeah, that's, that's a tough one. Yeah.

Have, have they had any interesting podcasts recently?  I don't think they've released a new one yet this week. They usually do on Thursdays. They finally were consistently doing it on Thursdays, but I don't think they did one yesterday. So, Jax might be too busy being Sad Girl Tumblr and doesn't want to do a podcast episode.

Guys, like, when I say, like, Sad Girl Tumblr, like, literally he was tweeting, like, depression. Isn't what, uh, what you think it looks like it's being mean to your partner. It's being this, I'm like, boy, you just were like, you Googled how to find quotes that represent my behavior right now. And that popped up.

He was like, Oh, there we go. I was mean to my wife because I'm depressed. That's, that's literally exactly what I thought too. I was like, he's planting this, not because he's not at Jackson's, but because his episodes and he's trying to say, he's setting up the, Jax has been depressed, and that's why he yells at his wife for throwing up.

Listen,  really quickly, because I know we don't have time to talk about the whole valley of it all.  Two things can be true. Like Yeah.  Britney,  if, if a shot is making Britney like,  not drunk, but very sick, then she probably does need to stop drinking, uh, if that's, cause that's what happened, right? She took one shot, but she didn't drink on the boat.

She wasn't like binge drinking. No, I don't. Yeah. I think there, I, I,  I don't think any of them. Yeah, I don't know about as far as the drink. I don't think really, none of them.  Well, yeah, the guys were hammered. I think on the actual boat, I don't think any of them had any drinks. Right. And then Um, when they came back, well, then they got in the car.

So yeah, I don't know. I don't, for as far as I know, no drinking was involved in that scenario. So Jax,  just,  just get a divorce. I don't know. You guys are unhappy. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. I'm tired of it.  Well, I just need Brittany to scream. I'll stop drinking when you stop doing Coke. Yeah. Thank you.

Thank you, Lindsay. That's what I'm saying. Jax, you look like a. Psychopath out here in these streets. You look, you look coked up. So it doesn't even Also, Jax,  if you can bring If you can drink two  bottles of tequila  and still be standing having a conversation, Something's wrong, my guy. Something's wrong, dude.

You Yeah, that doesn't make you the hero. No!  You need help! Yeah, you, you need help as well. You are either ingesting substances that make you functional  after drinking two bottles of tequila, or your tolerance is like,  not safe or healthy. Okay?  So It's astronomical, and I think we, like, if Jax was actually, well, here's the thing, Jax can't say shit because he's out here doing the same shit and more, but if you actually have a concern with your partner, if you see them actively doing something, and then you see them get sick afterwards, or if you actually think there is a drinking problem, Going on because let's be real.

Jack is very much trying to tell the audience. Brittany is an alcoholic. That is what he is trying to do. Yes,  you do not. If you really care for your partner. Reality TV are not like you, you, this is not how you would talk to them. You would have a very  stern, but loving, productive conversation. And yeah, it would be awkward as hell, but you screaming at your wife while she's throwing up in the bathroom and you keep harping on, like, you're drinking, you're drinking, you're drinking, like.

That is not okay. And  Jax isn't able to have loving kind conversations. And then what's wild about it is they have this in the next day. She's like, you go apologize to me, Jax. And he's like, I'm sorry. And that's it. So.  That's also insane. Nothing was resolved. So I understand like  that they finally got to this place where, you know, now they're separated, but it's just like, I don't know, again, The way you guys communicate, you guys are just gonna probably end up back together.

Yeah, and, uh, I don't, I, I,  listen, I'm entertained by the Valley, so do whatever you guys gotta do, but I, the exhausting, like, yelling at Brittany, and Brittany yelling at you, and imagining being in that room is, if you, if you're looking worse than Jesse and Michelle,  Oh. You need to fix something, cause they are, Yeah.

Very unpleasant. They're extremely unpleasant. Jax was like, Jax was like, wait a minute. I need attention. I'm going to go scream at my wife. Bye. Yep. Pretty much. Oh my God. Okay. Well, uh, if there's no more podcast news, did you wait? Have you listened to shenanigans yet? No, I'm, I need to still, but  Michelle and Janet were on it.

I think it was very Valley focused. I know, but I wonder if she addresses the Lori Kaye thing.  Oh, I don't know.  Well,  stay tuned to find out. Maybe, um,  if, if something revolutionary comes in, then I'll, I'll edit something in for you guys. All right, well, let's get to what the meat and potatoes here. Let's get to Vanderpump Rules.

So we're hour two. So they changed the, the phrasing for some reason. Instead of part two, it's now hour two and  hour one. And we're back. We're in the midst of this Katie and Lala argument,  uh, about.  Katie bringing things to the table. I've seen a lot of people be like, well, of course, you know, everyone calls their friend and vents.

It doesn't mean they want it like brought up and you want a certain amount of secrecy and, uh, confidentiality  when you have these conversations. And I agree, I think this is the problem with Lala.  There's been a couple of opportunities that I think she could make salient points and then she makes a different point instead.

So she's. She'll be on the right path, and then she veers off it, and I don't know why, because  to me, for example,  I think that  with,  if you're  Lala's real friend in real life, behind the scenes,  and you know Except you're Jessica. If you're Jessica, if you're Easton, her brother,  and you know really what's going on with her and Randall, and the custody battle, and, Why that's why there's weight to it and not just the custody, but like the whole situation with Randall, if you know that  and  you're in a conversation like they had at Allie's house, for example,  when Lala says, okay, well, if I say how I really feel, no one's going to like it.

And Katie takes that opportunity to be like, Say it with your chest, bitch. Eww! Like, I'm scared. Like, she does that. I don't know if you remember. She, like, turns to Ariana and goes,  Eww, scary! I'm like,  I too would be like,  No, literally, like, People are not gonna take well to me saying that the stakes are higher in my situation than they are in Ariana's.

Uh, cause they are.  But, when it turns into this, So Katie's kind of like, Like, I don't know who she's pandering to, I don't know if she's pandering to Ariana in that moment, if she's like, aware of the audience.  But yeah, if that's my friend, and you're sitting in my face, like, acting like,  you've, and I wonder too, this is total speculation.

I really don't take anything that I'm about to say with anything more than a grain of salt. I wonder if in one of Katie's rants or venting sessions that she said something to the effect of, it isn't like you and Randall, you know, making Lala feel like validated in that and then to,  because it's not, so I don't think it's a stretch for someone to say that to Lala.

Um,  so then to kind of come on camera and act like, LaLa's crazy for feeling like there's reasons to move on. I can see, I can see that. I can see. But she just doesn't  go there. And she doesn't make a salient point. She just says like,  Well, you know, I don't think that you've been authentic. And Katie's like, Well, because I moved past it.

So, it's like,  this is a stupid conversation. I don't want to listen to it anymore. That's how I feel. How'd you feel?  Um, I think it was  rushed the second part. Andy said, you know, moving on. And before that he said, you know, where do we go from here with you guys? And Lala said where we always go on the up.

So then it's like, okay, so then you guys are going to be okay. But then the Katie looks fancy. Yeah. Andy said Katie looks  pissed. Yeah, but then I don't personally me. I don't like when Andy was like, but Katie looks pissed and Lala was like, Well, you know, that's standard. And I'm like, okay, Lala, like you are also are not like, you are not a good friend as well, like you're saying how miserable Katie is, how she, you know, she's always pissed off and all this stuff, but then you're preaching these conversations that you have.

And also how you and Katie are so tight. I just don't understand how,  I don't know, like Sheena, Lala, they preach how much they've had a conversation. They've really worked out on their stuff. And have an understanding of each other But then it's like katie and lala can't get to that place because they're both Just get activated with each other and they both can say You know what I mean?

Like really mean shit with each other, but then it's like  If I was Katie, I would be confused because Lala's like, well, we're always, we're always on the up. So then I think Katie is like, okay, well then I guess we're good. But then obviously after the reunion, now we haven't seen part three yet. Right. True.

But obviously after the reunion,  Lala unfollows Katie, Lala unfollows Ariana. And so I just, I'm learning with Lala. She says she's over things, but that bitch doesn't get over anything. See, that's the difference. Katie rarely lies and says that she's over something. Um, which she does in this episode. I wish she hadn't because Katie, if there's one thing she's going to do, it's hold a grudge.

Um, Lala also holds grudges, but constantly lies and says that she's over them.  So, and much like we've, we said earlier in the season, Sheena and Ariana are the same person. Lala and Katie are the same person, but they go about it in very different ways.  Um,  and so I think, I do think that, and there's also like some.

I don't know if jealousy is the right word. Maybe some abandonment at play between both, uh, pairs of girl or women because I'm sure Katie felt some type of way about Lala becoming close to Sheena because she hates Sheena. Sheena felt some type of way about Ariana getting close to Katie because Katie hates Sheena.

Uh, Katie  actively felt some type of way about, um, Lala and Sheena because she said something to Lala about it. And, uh, I don't think that Lala and Ariana like each other, so who knows what the fuck. I don't know what Ariana's thinking at any given point because, uh, she's being very diplomatic about the way she's going about things.

So,  I, I just think, again, I said it last week, I think that the, we've been kind of robbed.  Also back to what I was saying about summer house, we've been robbed of this evolution of Katie and Lala. And  I, I tend to believe that I, I do believe that Katie said a lot of things, a lot more than what she's copying to saying, and I understand it's like, well, I've, I'd moved past it,  but then,  uh, she needs to communicate that she had moved past it.

I've I feel so, but who knows if she did or didn't, because then later we see  That they do have conversations where they address the shitty stuff that they do to each other on camera. But we don't get to see those conversations, but on Summer House, we would have seen that scene, I just want to say. On Summer House, we would have seen that scene.

So, anyway, sorry, um,  Oop, severe thunderstorms coming my way.  Uh, so anyway, let's move on to next part.  I lost my notes, guys. That's why I'm, uh, talking like,  uh, android.  Okay, Sheena Okay, now we move on to Sheena and Schwartz's kiss. 

I don't know.  I think it sounds like Schwartz grabbed Sheena and tried to kiss her, and she pushed him off of her. Now, do you think that she  He, his facial expressions very much seem to express to me that he thinks they both were kissing. Like, he may have started it, but then they both were kissing each other, where Sheena is very much painting the picture of like, you kissed me, I pushed you right off.

I feel like Schwartz, because he even said this somewhere else, I think he is trying to act like, say like, with his face, like, no, like, this was more than just like a peck, you pushed me off. It was makeout, and then she stopped it. What do you think?  I think it was like he like went up to her and like pulled her in for a kiss and they made out for like two,  three to five seconds and then Sheena pushed him off.

Yeah. And it was like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah. That's what I think. I think it's more than a peck.  I don't think that they were like, I don't think she was like straddling him, like licking his face, you know? I think that there's like a It sounds like Ariana and Sheena were maybe doing that. It does sound But not Schwartz. 

Yeah, it does sound that way. Um, so yeah, I think  that's all I, Katie doesn't care. Um,  that, see, this is the thing. I feel like Schwartz did bring this up to fuck with Katie.  Because like,  Or to fuck with Sheena, maybe, fuck with both of them. Well, to get the heat off Sandoval, let's be real. That's true, that's very true.

Um, so, yeah, I don't know, I don't have anything more to say than, um, Lisa going, did you kiss each other?  It's like, honey, focus on your Vanderpump Villa cast. One of them is like  a raging maniac. You need to reel him in. All right. Literally. The only thing I will say is I did enjoy Sheena going around the room and who, who all wanted to, you know, hook up with Sheena and James being like, because clearly James was so drunk during that time, he doesn't remember, but I fully believe that Sandoval If the watch what after the watch what happens live, um, she said with Stassi and Jax many many years ago He was it sounds like he was doing his bit where he Is testing the waters of telling a girl.

Oh, man  My girlfriend's really not sleeping with me. I don't know what to do. I think he was like, laying the groundwork to see if Sheena would be like, Oh,  yeah, I'll sleep with you, Sandoval. He seems to have a,  uh, a bit that he does to try to get girls when he's in a relationship, which I think works for him sometimes, obviously.

So, you know, I guess keep doing what you're doing, boo boo. Yeah, man, it's working. Yeah, but it's funny. Cause he was trying to be like,  No, that's not what I was doing. Then after we had that conversation, like you left the room or something and I told you to leave. Well, yeah, because she wasn't putting down  what she wasn't.

One of you. Yeah, right. So it's just so he's I don't know. It's it's so funny to me, but I fully believe that is what happened.  Then, Andy. Makes a just hilarious remark and goes how God was sex. And Sheena is very over it. She's like, Mm-Hmm. Vinny. And then Sandoval's like,  uh, I woke up with lock jaw shit outta condom two weeks later.

Is that  a, like, is that a bit, is that like a joke? Is that like a comedian's joke or something? Or a, a quote. Oh, I'm, I'm sure it's something that Sandoval, if you notice, he has like a. Repertoire, um, statements, like, he always says, like, cheers to staying positive and testing negative. He has a list of things he always says.

I'm sure he's heard that phrase before, and he loves any opportunity he can use it, but it was his face afterward was so he was like,  yeah, he. Like, aspires to be, like, his dad's  best friend. And I don't mean, like, he, Sandoval, wants to be his father's best friend. He, like, aspires to be  One of his dad's friends.

Like, I don't know who this friend is, but I just know that there's a guy that's like his dad's best friend that like says crazy shit like this that's like  very like, I grew up in the 70s coded and uh,  that's who Sandoval wants to be. And it's just, it's not like, It's not becoming on him at all.  I'd need him to not try to be funny because he's just not funny.

He's very bad at it. In the extended cut, we got a little conversation about Tori, but that was very quickly brushed over,  which is interesting. We kind of didn't hear anything else from Tori. So I would wonder, uh, what she thinks about that. Katie is asked, is she dating anybody? Katie says, I'm dating everybody. 

And, uh,  it's like, okay, and then Sandoval or somebody asks, did you, Andy asks, did you and Max like hook up again after the first time? And she says, I don't know. I don't remember.  Say it with your whole chest.  Oh, I think she was saying that because that's what Schwartz used to say.  He used to always be like, I don't remember.

Oh, she was mocking him. That's how I took it. Yeah. I thought it, yeah, I really enjoyed. That's funny then. Yeah. Yeah. I, I said this on Instagram that's, I enjoy Katie ac Katie. And you know what Lala, it's so, I get sad with like how much shit that Lala says. 'cause Lala had a lot of funny moments in this. She did.

Katie was also cracking me up too, because like, I thought it was when she was saying, you know.  When she's dating everybody and then she said, like, I don't remember. Yeah, that's a call back to shorts being like, I don't remember, Baba. I don't remember who I made out with. That's how I took it.  What a great catch, because I thought she was just being coy, but, um, in which case I did not find that entertaining, but if she was calling back to Schwartz, that is really funny and entertaining.

See, I can warm up to Katie really quick, because some of her behavior I find really fucking annoying, but if she was calling back to Schwartz, and then Schwartz goes, We're the same. We're the same. Yeah! Yeah. And, um, I know some people that rub some people the wrong way, but I think,  I don't, I think Katie's in on the joke a little bit with that, with him.

They're cool, guys. I, I hate to break it to you. Tom and Katie are fine. I mean, they're not necessarily besties.  No, they don't need to be. They don't need to be. They really don't. Um, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. 

Alright, so, um, I think the bulk of this episode that isn't Joe related is definitely in  response, or it is this next conversation we're going to talk about between  Lala and Ariana, and this is where I have to call bad moderation on Andy, because  it's like the questions asked Lala starts and goes in a totally different direction than I think she ever should and, uh, then it really goes off the rails and then they,  to, to both of their credit, neither of them raise their voices, but they're whisper yelling at each other.

So it's like, Hmm.  Still, still a lot of vitriol here, just not in the form of screaming. It's like they were trying to, at one point they were like trying to one up each other on how like calm and collected they could sound. It was so funny. Um, but what was the, I didn't write it down. What was the  actual catalyst?

What was it that Andy asked that started Lala on this tangent?  Let me see.  I think,  so her response to what Andy asked was one giant difference with her not wanting People to get involved with Randall and that's their child involved. So it must have been something of him saying, you know,  Arianna has set a boundary.

What what's to say, you know, in you also set one when it comes to Randall's like, what's the difference? I think  he did not say it like that, but it was something along those lines, right? And so her response, which I thought her response should have been. One big difference is that Randall was no longer on the show and Sandoval is,  but instead she goes the, there's a child involved route. 

Well, and then Sheena has to kind of interrupt and be like, well, there's more than that. You know, it's not just cheating with her. It's not just cheating, which is fair and true. Like  the whole conversation though  is irrelevant because I think it is a fool's errand to compare.  Lala and Ariana situations.

They are not A P P L E S.  To apples, they are, and I don't think Arianna is trying to,  to compare them. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think she's even trying to compare them. At least from what we're seeing, she's not trying to compare them. But then, well, and then Lala says at one point, well, he asked me a question.

This is why I'm saying the moderation was bad because  Andy did ask, like,  what, why is it different for you?  And  the, the real, the real answer is that.  The stakes are much higher in Lala's situation. They just, they are.  And the reality is  also that,  and she actually made an interesting point, but she, she says, you know, Randall's calling up Schwartz.

Randall doesn't want to hang out with Schwartz. He's trying to get something. So whether that be get back on the show, whether that be, uh, get to Lala, try to infiltrate her friends. And the problem is. Get information about Lava, get information and custody, right? And the, the custody,  all of that. It's just a higher, it's just higher stakes.

It just is, than, than Ariana's situation. I empathize with Lala there. I have been, I've been pretty vocal about how I feel like Lala's justified in, in feeling like her situation is different.  But the conversation is just  so weird. Like, the, the conversation that they're having is weird.  I, I will say this. 

I like that, that Ariana brought up that, like, she has her boundaries, and all she needs for Lala to do is respect them.  What I didn't like, and I'm just gonna be honest,  I, I didn't like or necessarily understand the need for Ariana to say,  You don't have to,  I just, you're not being very respectful right now.

Cause I don't feel like Lala was being disrespectful. I feel like she was, I don't like that tone to me. I like, I know myself. I know if someone told me you're not being very respectful right now, I would probably be like, bitch, I don't need to respect you. What the fuck? Like he asked me a question. I'm answering the goddamn question.

Like, what are we talking about? Respect for?  That's the only thing where, where Ariana lost me just a little, but I think that the, the point is  that Lala should have made,  rather than just that she has a child involved, because what's, what's Ariana supposed to do about that? She froze her eggs. She thought there was going to be a child involved.

Like, she's hurt.  The problem is that Randall isn't on,  and then Ariana also brings up a point that I felt wasn't,  Didn't apply. She was like, well,  you didn't, you know, how did you feel about Katie dating? Cause I guess Katie and Tom did live together for a while before they got their own apartments, you know, well, he was dating, uh, and she had boundaries.

The only thing though, is that I will say in Katie's defense,  Katie's boundaries were with Tom Schwartz.  She didn't have bound, like her, the, the conditions that they divorced under, it's not about whether or not she was traumatized, which is a wild thing for Lala to say, well, she wasn't traumatized.  Well, yeah, not for 10 she was just for 12 years.

So yeah, you're wrong Lala, I was 12. Very much beg to differ friend. Um, but  it's more so that like the boundaries that Katie had in place were with Schwartz, like their personal boundaries together. They didn't extend to anyone. She wasn't saying how anyone else should respond to Schwartz, or how she would conduct herself if anyone else did respond to Schwartz, or how that would affect her friendships.

It was just like, Schwartz needs to not fuck anybody on the cast. That's what she wanted. And  Lala, so that's a, that's a non factor to me.  Lala's boundaries were similar to Ariana's boundaries.  Because the stakes. Oh, my dad's calling one moment. Okay. 

So anyway, yeah, all I'm saying is that the stakes are higher with Lala situation because it's a very serious situation that involves,  uh, the legality of certain things like Tom Schwartz hanging out with Randall, allegedly based on information that I have gotten that anyone can access.  It's not just about like how it impacts Lala's feelings, like legally, it could. 

It could say something about Schwartz, like, that you're hanging out with a person like this.  It's just, this, this, I'm sorry, the stakes are so much higher. But that's not where the conversation went. It went, uh, all over the place, and it turned into, like,  respecting versus not respecting boundaries, and  It was kind of confusing because  I, I do believe that Lala was, again, we don't, Lala, I don't need you to speak for the audience, right?

I think that there was a point where she was like, I just don't understand your boundaries.  I think she was also speaking for Sheena, if I'm honest. Maybe, yeah, totally, totally. Where  I understand Lala saying, People would have looked at me a certain way if I still live with Randall, but if I'm on, this is just my opinion. 

I don't think Lala  truly cared that much about Lala, about Ariana and saying about living together,  but from a show perspective of them being told they all have to film with each other, right? When daddy Baskin had that come to Jesus moment with them, I'm pretty sure that's what they were told.  I think Sheena was mostly more of. 

So I can't be friends with Sandoval, but you still live with him. I think Sheena was very much voicing this. As I said before, I think Brock was voicing this season. A lot of what she was saying. And so I, cause here's the thing. I don't think Lala really cares because if Lala was able to be  Again, she in this season very much went into this mode of like, I got to make this season great.

I got to make this season great.  If she didn't have that, like Lala didn't give a fuck about filming with Sandoval because she didn't want, you know what I mean? Like she's not. Friends with him in real life now and she hasn't been in a really long time like she does not give a fuck She's like, this is who this man is.

Okay, right, right So that's where I'm like, well not like you're bringing up this stuff like you're trying to voice like you really care I really don't think you care about that I really wish you would just like stop and bring up how the situation with Randall like is different But you're also, even when she said in the show, she's like, but I'm not trying to say like your situation isn't bad, but they are different, you know, but Lala,  she loses people when she then starts to bring other conversations into it and past things.

And this is when he said, and there really needs to be a good meteor, uh, like a mediator being like, wait, wait, wait, hang on. Where are we going with this? Like, this is what we're talking about. Let's pause and come back to that because what ends up happening is she then.  Like what we said before, Lala holds a grudge.

So what does she do? She brings up a conversation. And I want to go back when me and you recapped that episode, we thought that conversation between Lala and Ariana was so weird because the way it was edited, they really just talked about James and we're like, why is this? Why are they only talking about James is like, we're like, you know, this would have been different if we would have seen like Lala and Ariana, like really trying to work on their friendship.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, we're like, I wonder if Was that that same scene? Yes, it is. Me and you talked about how Oh my god. We were like I did not even realize that. Yeah, we were like, it would make more sense because, you know, this season, you know, Lala and Ariana, it's the first time in a long time where they're like trying to be friends again or, you know, maybe whatever.

Yeah. And so We're like, but they spent this whole time talking about James. Well, what do we find out? Yeah, and it was like a weird drinking conversation too, right? Was that this season or was that last season? No, that was season 11.  Wow. Yeah, so we talked about how weird that was. Well, then what do we find out?

Lala did bring up, Hey, I didn't like that you didn't say anything. When it came to Charlie saying stuff, and this is a pattern with Lala. She's she got mad at Kristen because Kristen didn't say anything with the whole live show and what Gigi said. So obviously, this is something that Lala struggles with.

And Ariana, what did we not see in that moment? She said, you know what, I should have said not only is that over the top, but don't say it. Yeah, but we didn't see that. And this is the second time now. Where, in season 9 as well, Lala brought up how Ariana never texts, never asks how she does, and Ariana pulls up our phone and says look at all this.

So this is  the second time now that this happens, and that's just a weird choice on you editors, just a weird, weird choice. Um, and I'll be, I say editors, but obviously it's a, whoever is involved with all this, like someone's, you know what I mean? Like they're making the choice as far as like, what is being shown and whatnot.

Although that is an editing, that's a post production decision, decision, right? The footage was filmed  and that piece wasn't put into the story. And I cannot emphasize enough.  I would have preferred to see that. And that would have been.  I get, I don't know who the producers and the, like, I don't know who at the end of the day decided that they wanted to make Lala like the narrator.

Sometimes I wonder if because they got such good feedback from that one episode, remember that really great episode? Yes. I wonder if they thought, well, the audience responded really well to this, so maybe we should make Lala the narrator, which is Not a good idea because she's not a reliable one. Okay. No.

She was good in one episode only. She, she even fudged some of that up as well. Fudge. Yeah. Fucked. Come on. I'm a grown up. Um.  But, um, sorry about that. That was very out of character for me. I'm losing my mind. Um, but yeah, so they screwed that up. And I just think. We need, I want to see, I do want to see more of these conversations.

It is a testament to Ariana's character, right? It is, it made Sandoval look bad because Sandoval is the one that's like,  I guess maybe if we're, if we're following the idea that they are trying to position Sandoval as like a  redemptive being, then I guess it does fall in line, but. Well, I mean, they are, I mean, Billy Lee literally said that on our podcast that they, like  people like production had a conversation with Sandoval saying like, Hey, Hang on, let me pull it up, but,  um. 

Oh, I, okay, breaking news, I had no idea. She said, so she had Joey Sasso on from The Circle, and he was talking about Yeah, and he was talking about how, like, they, Netflix told him, like, Hey, this season's gonna be rough for you, but, like, you have a redemption arc. And Billy Lee said, Oh my God, they did the same thing with Tom.

They literally called him and was like, You're gonna be hated for a while, but you have an arc and people will come around. So this season, very much, like, they even, they tried.  You're I mean like they can say whatever what this is not a redemption art for Tom, but like they really try to set it up to be this way.

They didn't have to be this way. There were so many more interesting things. I don't understand he does not.  I mean, okay. Also, let's take the, the messenger into consideration, like,  there's a, there's a world where they, they did say that as a way to like encourage him to keep filming, not necessarily because they genuinely.

The thought that or had any intention of, of making it that way. So I just want to keep that as like a possibility. Yeah. Very possible. But like, other than that, it's like,  He's not the profitable one. He's not the one making. You know, bringing attention to Vanderpump Rules, like Ariana is. She's the one that's crossing over into these massive brand deals and commercials and shows that are airing other, on other networks and other places.

So I don't know if they, if maybe it really is just like  they, for longevity's sake, they couldn't rely on Ariana.  So they decided to put their,  all the fruit in the Sandoval basket, which is a basket case  move, in my opinion.  Oh god, breaking news.  When Reality Hits just posted, Schwartz responds to Joe. So I obviously don't know what is said, but I guess stay tuned.

Now, Schwartz, you better just then say what fucking happened. I don't want none of this bullshit.  Well, something really personal happened, and like, please. So, anyway, I don't have anything else much to say about the conversation between Lala and Ariana, except that I felt like it was,  um, unnecessary.  Yeah, Lala, you just need to, obviously, you, you hold grudges, and I need you to acknowledge that a little bit more. 

Uh, so then, uh, Oh, I didn't understand this. I'm curious as to your perspective before we get into the jove at all.  What was this, in the extended version, we see a conversation between Ariana and  Sheena in the pool. And what was Sheena trying, what was, girl, what was Sheena trying to do? I thought this was the most wild thing for  Sheena to say,  Can I need, like, to have a conversation for me?

And  I was like,  but so my, so here's my, my process with it, her saying, you know,  Arianna going off and being like, you know, talking about Sandoval and then Sheena being like, well, it would be good for you to have a conversation for me because  I want to know, like, if you think he's being genuine or what, and I'm like, girl, she's not going to think that anything Sandoval says right now.

Is genuine and she's going to tell you that she's being played. However, I had, as I said, I talked to reality ops, um,  on her podcast last night and she did bring a very interesting perspective because I mean, her talked about how, like, we really, we try to, we really feel for Shana. We try to understand her specifically with her talking about her having OCD and row has been open about how  from reality ops that OCD is something that she struggles with.

And she, and I can relate to this as well as like,  Um, you really seek validation from someone like I know with like Corey specifically I'm always like asking like do you think this is okay okay like you know over and over and so I really think in Sheena's mind  she's at you know she really is.  Coming from a good place of, like, Ariana, like, I really, like, I need this from you, like, I need you, like, I'm, I'm all over the place when it comes to Sandoval, like, I think she really, like, wants that reassurance from Ariana, but Ariana's not the person for that.

And I think Sheena's maybe starting to get that, but I think Sheena gets in this, like, heavy mindset of all of that, but, so I, I can understand it from that, but I'm not gonna lie. It's still such a wild thing to say. And here's the thing, Sheena wasn't saying, like, Ariana to have a conversation with Standable for the show.

Like, that was really, you know what I mean, because this was before the Tahoe trip.  This was before all that. Like, Sheena truly Thought that this would be good for her right  and I'm like Sheena. What are you trying to what are you trying to gauge?  What what are you concerned? He's not authentic about that only Ariana can suss out I just it was  I don't know I thought that adding that in was bizarre because it didn't really clear  anything up.

It didn't really  It didn't. I will say I did like, in that moment, Ariana was just straight up. No, she was clear. Yes. That's what I like when Ariana is clear about her communication. She was just like, no girl.  It was like, I will not do that for you. I will not be breaking my boundaries. This is not how no contact works.

I'm not going to do that. And I was like, thank you, God. That's all. That's all I've been asking. Sheena keeps saying her name. So she's very involved in the podcast, right? Oh my gosh. Love her. Um, so, okay.  Choo choo choo.  Alright, so, after they come back from break, Allie and Joe join the convo, and  there's two big pieces here.

We get a very long segment with Joe that I would define as inconclusive, and then, there's also a segment with Allie and James, and just to touch on that briefly, basically, it's like, first of all, Allie charges Joe It's 195, what an hour, uh, Brock was done for it. Brock was scheming is what Brock was doing.

He was like, he Googles, what is a  Sagittarius? Yeah.  I might  Sagittarius.  Um, so then  Allie, Allie and James kind of talk about  a bunch of stuff. And.  I don't think they talk about Graham just yet, but they talk about, or sorry, hippie. I cannot such a terrible name. Um, but she does, uh, Andy asks her like, well, do you want to get married and have kids?

Like, do you have a timeline? And she goes, um,  you know, not really. This group is not really the most inspired and Sheena and Brock,  they go, excuse me, bitch.  Pause.  Okay,  not inspired. We're the world's most inspiring couple. Thank you very much. I'm already calling it next year. Lala is going to bring up Ali saying that.

Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, for sure. Um,  and then she's like, Oh, I'm sorry. Well, not you and not you. And I mean, obviously not Lisa Vanderpump. I'm like, girl, you said what you said, stand in it, say with your chest, bitch.  So, uh, yeah, they kind of talk about it and James is like, well, I want to have kids by, I don't know, 33, but I am 32, which I was like, who were the same age, did not know that.

And then he was like, so I guess 35 and, and I'm like,  You can't have kids right now. I'm so sorry, sir. I just, I hate to police when people, I think that he should try sobriety for a while. And like by a while, I mean, five plus years, um, before he embarks on a child journey. Um, And that's really it for them.

Uh, did you have anything to add to that conversation?  Not that I'm gonna be aware of. I very much tune out when it comes to James and Allie's stuff because I just, like, don't care.  I will say it was interesting because, uh, Andy asks Lala, How long have you been sober now? And when he said that, in my head, While she was answering I was like, you know, it's nice that Andy always like asks her how long she's been sober She gets to talk about that.

Oh, wait, we have to go to quick break quick break.  All right, so  Watch, sorry guys. We had to take a quick pause because I was waiting on a phone call So what  were we done with the conversation about Ali and James cuz I think so I feel done. Okay, so  All right. Let's talk about the Joe. Let's talk about the job at all  Very chaotic presence  Uh, not fit for Vanderpump Rules reunions.

That's okay. I'm not either.  Interesting, you know, there's, there was a lot that I expected to see online that I haven't been looking for. So it's not to say it's not there. I just haven't seen it.  One thing was I was expecting people to take the Sheena and Sandoval.  Almost fucking conversation very seriously.

I haven't seen a lot of that. I also haven't seen a lot of, uh, of course, you know, would be comforting Joe because I was afraid that was going to happen. So,  that being said, I think that it came off very clear that, uh, Sheena was put in an impossible situation sitting next to Joe. Um, Joe talked a lot  when it seemed as though  It was not appropriate for her to be talking.

Um, she responded a lot  later on. And I want to say this while I remember she does this thing while James is talking about his sobriety and, uh, saying like, well, I can get quite mean when I'm drunk and very, uh, I don't think he uses the word abusive. That would be a weird move. I think he says like.  Uh, what does he say, like condescending and judgmental mean?

He says something like that. Yeah. I can't remember exactly. And Jo starts going, well, that's good that you can recognize it because if you can't recognize it, I was like, girl,  you're going to need to sit down for this one. Look, I'm going to give Jo the benefit of the doubt. I think the girl had an ear infection the way she was touching her ear so much.

Was she touching her ear a lot? I didn't even notice. Oh my gosh. Yes. That's all I could notice. So she was just, I don't know if she was trying to fix her ear and I was like, you know what girl? She has an ear infection. Let her be.  I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.  She had strep throat,  so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

She had a sinus infection.  Okay. You know, she was just, she's barely hanging on.  She had a lot going on. You know what? Let her lie. Okay. She had an ear infection. You would lie too. You can't hear. You can't hear. You would talk a lot, too, if you had the measles, all right? That was so funny. Yeah, dude, I don't know.

That was, um,  it was interesting. We,  I don't know how much information we got out of it. There was one thing that was interesting that Schwartz said that I did a poll about on Instagram.  At one point, uh, so Katie is talking to Joe about  why she made the choice to stay with Schwartz when Kristen was just up the street.

And  I don't know what Joe said, but Schwartz goes, well, Dodie had kind of a chaotic living situation. And then Lisa Vanderpump goes, Kristen,  really? Drama with Kristen. You can't be serious. And I was like.  Yeah, I can see it  like, I don't know, wasn't she with that Alex guy at that time? Like, yes, I think they were just breaking up at that time.

Now was it peak COVID during that time?  It was 2022. So not peak COVID time. Not peak. And, and I will, I will give her a little bit that  there was still, uh, COVID going on. Like, uh, yeah, it's still, yeah. Omicron. Omicron. I caught.  Uh, the, the one that came after Omicron, the, the last one that was like super contagious, the last strain.

I caught that in May of 2022,  which I think is around the time that we're talking, um, within a few months. Yeah, I got COVID on July of 2022 when I was pregnant, so around the same time, yeah. COVID was very much still a thing and people were very much still working from home. It wasn't like  completely Docile it was not it's not like now like people were still wearing masks things like that  So I'll give Joe credit for that But I don't think that's why she stayed with Schwartz and if you had to like put a gun to my head if I was gonna say  It's either because of kovat or because Chris and Dodie had a chaotic living situation I would go with chaotic living situation with Dodie But then, gun to my head, was it Kristen's chaotic living situation versus Jo really liked Schwartz?

I don't know if Jo really liked Schwartz, you know? Yeah.  Yeah, I think she's liked Schwartz for  a hot minute. Like, all respect to Jo, but I don't really believe her when she says she did not have a crush on him. I really think that is exactly what it was. Yeah, because you, I'm glad that this was clarified too.

And I think it was, I can't remember if it was only clarified in the extended version or what, but when, cause Lala asked, how did it go from you asking  to live with him or to stay with him for a few days? And Sheena was like, yeah, what, like, how did he become that person? What was your relationship like before?

And Schwartz said, Oh, you know, we hung out one to two times a year. And then Joe said something like, yeah, we would text each other funny things. So I think She developed a crush through texting, you know, even if it was just like here and there, I think Joe seems like the type that she develops crushes really easily.

And so, um,  I very much believed that that happened. So then, yeah, I have no doubt she was like, well,  who could I stay with? Oh, I could stay with shorts. And so it just, I,  what I'm learning from Joe is like, the girl's not good with the timeline. And  She definitely gets things confused, which I can understand, especially with her on a reality show, trying to keep up with all, you know what I mean, the stuff that goes on and the dates and things like that.

Yeah. But,  that's when she like, she just catches herself in so many, like, contradictions, and again, lies, cause it's like, okay, you're saying, cause you know, she said on the Vanderpump Girls potty, or potty, potty, potty,  potty, podcast, um,  that, Kristen was the one that suggested for her to live with shorts and I was like there is no goddamn world  where that happened and I'm like, here's,  can I offer a counter to that?

Oh, go for it. No, I don't see. You can't. I'm just kidding. , this podcast is actually over. So  done.  , that's my boundary.  , that's my boundary.  Um, so what I can see is that Joe had been struggling with a place to live for some time,  and that sometime before the very moment that she ended up actually staying with Schwartz, oh, excuse me, Kristen  said. 

You know, well,  you know, there's lots of people you could stay with for a night like you could stay with Schwartz. I'm right, you know, I can see where Kristen would offer Schwartz as an alternative  for a moment based on a situation.  I can also see Kristen being like you can stay with me but this night you can't.

So see if like Schwartz is available because I'll be right down the street.  Um, yeah. Kristen, she's saying none of that. I know. Happens. But. It's also. Yeah. Unfortunately, it's Kristen, so it's hard. It's just,  and I've talked about this before on the podcast, and this is my fatal flaw. I have a hard time believing that people just lie.

I,  I tend to believe that people exaggerate, move truths around, rearrange truths, or  minimize or exaggerate them, but I don't. I have a hard time believing that people just flat out lie. Lie, like baby reindeer was extremely difficult for me to watch,  but I think we're seeing that with Joe. I really, like, I really do.

I'm not seeing like,  as far as that, like maybe like the truth could be somewhere in the middle. Right. But I think we're also seeing incidents where she is just flat out lying. Like there is no  truth to it, especially when I think about her calling Kristen's brother recently and saying that Brittany and Jack's text Joe. 

About Kristen's dog and Britney was right there and she was like, I did not text Joe.  There's no world where Jax would have text Joe either. So.  Also her lying about saying that she was Aaron Rodgers hairstylist. I know that's And then she brings it up on the reading, you know, do you know him? Like this girl, she just blatantly lies.

So that's where I'm like, you're gonna lose me because There may be some places where you're all are telling the truth. And if you notice on the reunion, she did try to say, because Katie brought up, Kristen was very surprised that you didn't talk to her. And, and Joe very softly says, well, I actually did.

And then short starts talking. So she wasn't able to finish the conversation. So that would have been a really interesting moment to see where Joe was going with that. Yeah. Because Schwartz in that moment just said Kristen's life was very melodramatic. She was going through a lot of things, you know what I mean?

But like, it seems like Joe was going to say something more. So I don't, I, I just, I don't know. I know it's so hard because I think of them all as liars. I think they are all lying. And so  whatever.  Joe's reality is,  I don't know. I don't know, but they, but they lie about,  yeah, they do all lie, right? They, but they lie about like, when it comes to cheating or like their, be like some of their behavior.

Joe is flat out making up stories. And I wouldn't say, you know what I mean? Like, I don't like,  but who, who, I'm sorry. Who was the person that  like w. What are the okay, so if Jack Taylor, I guess could just very similar as well like he Stories and that's why I'm like so but then there's sometimes there's truth to what Jack says to like  I don't know.

I just feel like there's there is truth in there. This is what I want to believe Okay,  I want to believe that there's truth in there  I just think that it's about getting down to the,  the reality of the perspective. And,  I don't,  I have such a hard time. I don't know why. I just can't, I cannot bring myself to believe that people just make shit up.

I just, it's so hard for me. But also, but also we both have shared, we've had experiences with, you know what I mean? So like, I know,  we've both had experiences. It can happen. And it is a really weird thing. And I, as I noticed, like, I think Joe is starting to like, really bother me when it comes to them. Some things, cause she reminds me of people in my past life that would just blatantly lie about something.

You're just like, this is a straight, there is no truth to this whatsoever, but I don't think it's a bad thing where you're trying to be like, I just, I can't,  you know what I mean? Like you can't see like, cause we all want to believe.  You know what I mean, like people are telling,  telling their truth or like maybe some things get exaggerated and things like that, but for someone to just blatantly lie about something where there's no, where something literally did not happen at all.

And they're just lying. And my question is,  what are you,  what are you trying to protect? That's my question when someone is lying like that. Like what aspect, what,  like.  world of your own? Are you trying to protect by lying so blatantly? And such a good point. I'm glad you brought that up that we both have had experiences.

Cause, um, I'll talk about mine, mine and yours are not the same. Um,  where I had someone in high school who like made up,  made up  groups of people and whether, and I still don't know to this day, if the people,  at some point existed and then she just made up  a whole  relationship with these people or if the people never existed at all.

I still have no idea. But  I think  that like, I tend to like to believe that like the people existed  and then she just exaggerated her Involvement with the people, but in reality,  I don't think the people existed, you know, like,  and I know that's like, Emily, what are you talking about? All I'm saying is like,  I just have a hard time believing that  it's hard for me, especially with Vanderpump rules, because I do feel like they are all lying to protect something. 

And I feel like Joe  is also lying to protect something, but then the way that Schwartz was talking to her. In the text that she revealed on her Instagram live,  was like, very intense.  And,  I have also had someone in my life,  who,  for lack of a better word, gaslit me. Who, for all intents and purposes,  we were  together. 

And then when he felt like I was trying to be too clingy, like I was clinging on to him too bad, he started with that same kind of language that Schwartz was using in those texts to her. Like,  and I know that I'm not, and everyone, but everybody else also knew that I wasn't making it up. So I would have had plenty of people to vouch for me and say,  yeah, no, I mean, they were fucking, and he literally said he was going to get a ring for her. 

Um,  but.  She was just, I was like delusional in that  relationship in that there were so many other barriers to anything serious ever happening that I just like  wanted to ignore.  And so then  he also has a personality disorder too. And so he would flip really quickly. So I  just, I'm, I think I'm just taking too much.

I think I just need to understand that sometimes people die.  Well, and all I have to say is.  I haven't got to listen to the podcast yet, but something just popped on my phone that says Schwartz calls Joe and a compulsive liar. He said she lied about babysitting for the EP of VPR kids and was calling his family behind his back.

All right. That's a red flag. So this girl is not okay and it is calling the family stuff. Yeah. And she, he mentioned that a little bit and I was like, Oh, there's more to that. So maybe that's what it was. Maybe that's the thing. Yeah. She's just lying. She just lies like compulsively and that is something like I've had family members who do this and it is, it, it sucks cause like the person who's experiencing the behavior, you're just going to, you try to understand so much.

Why are they lying? Why are they doing this? And you drive yourself crazy and just some people are just liars and that's just that like, yeah, there can be a mental health component to it. But you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna kill your brain cells trying to understand it. And I think with Joe,  I don't know.

I think there's, I think she, I think there's,  there are some issues there. That's all like I have to say, and it's getting uncomfortable to talk about. And again, if there's a season 12, I better not see her on my TV because it would be unethical at this point. The girl, there's, there's severe issues going on here.

And I hate saying that, like, I don't, I don't know.  You've been picking up on some.  Real vibes that I haven't been picking up on, but you have a better knack for that. Um, when it comes to like that lane of like deceptive people and then I do, so I'm gonna just  follow suit and say, I don't think I should have Joe on my podcast. 

I don't know if I'm going to get any,  I don't know what I,  what conclusion I'm going to come to, you know? Yeah. You also with the person like that.  I wouldn't want to interview Joe, and I don't necessarily want to catch her in lie, you know what I mean, like, for instance, like,  when I thought it was really stupid for the, the real life baby reindeer woman to go, you know what I mean, on an interview with Piers Morgan.

Yeah, the way that he was doing with her was literally to catch her in lies. Exactly. I'm like, that's  That's not, that's not,  and I'm not, look, this is not trying to, this woman just shouldn't have a platform. Okay. And so, but when you're trying to get this person, like, again, someone's interviewing Joe,  it doesn't need to be where you're trying to like, you know what I mean?

Catch her and lies. But it's also like, you want to point out certain things, but then also I don't, you know what I mean? I think Joe Is she's living in Joe's world and you know, this is just something that  I don't know. It just, it's getting, it's actually getting uncomfortable at this point. Yeah. No, I agree with you. 

I agree. Well, my,  my elevated interview dreams might be smashed, but I think probably for the integrity of myself and the podcast, I need to accept hard truths and we're trying to make a show here.  We have hard conversations on the show. Um, okay. So finally we wrap up. I don't have anything else to say. I think that you put everything very perfectly.

And I think that we've, we've,  we've dissected Joe in the relationship enough.  We end with well, someone, I don't have a problem, actually. It turns out, come to think of it. Considering a compulsive liar James, uh,  desperately trying to paint a picture that, uh, stories of Graham's behavior were greatly exaggerated and that everything is fine now.

And even though Allie is literally sitting there, like, I was actually really concerned,  uh, to get Graham and, um, he's doing a lot better now, but I was concerned. And I'm like, well,  uh, that's all I need to know that the dog had behavioral problems. I really don't need, uh, anybody else to confirm it. Because if Allie's concerned and Rachel said what she had to say,  that's  That's all I need.

Um, and then Sandoval,  by the way, the whole time that James is having this soliloquy about hippie, Sandoval has this wild look on his face. Uh, Sandoval had a lot of facial expressions so far that are interesting. He barely talks, but he was giving, he was giving face. He was giving face. He was serving face.

Um, except not really. He looked, Oh, it's a face. I didn't want to look at, but he was serving. You know, the, um,  do you remember?  Was it a commercial or was it just a meme? Like, or like a YouTube thing? Uh, berries and cream. Do you remember Berries and cream? Yes. Berries and cream. Berries and cream. Berries and cream.

Yeah. That's Sandoval, that's how Sandoval looked. Oh God. Nightmare. . Sandoval is a nightmare. Um, so  Sandoval kind of interjects and says,  I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.  About stuff that I've heard, James. Shut up, Sandoval. You haven't heard a fucking thing. You haven't fucking heard a thing, you piece of shit.

You fucking weenie. You haven't heard anything. James I'm just gonna Eat a dick, Sandoval. You eat a dick, dude.  No, literally it was like Cause I told you my theory, I think my new theory for this is that Daddy Baskin had a thing in the center of the, uh, of the reunion and said, your voice can't hit this certain decibel.

And if it does, you're not going to get extra money. Yeah. So literally it's like, James was like, Hannibal, eat a dick. And Hannibal's like, James, eat a dick. No, you eat a dick. And I.  I just, a lot of, a lot of people this season, I guess this is an unpopular opinion, so buckle up.  James  and Sandoval, when they talk,  James is never slaying the conversation.

It is a dick measuring contest. James is so pissed that Rachel and Sandoval were having all the sex.  That triggers him like no other and for that and then so for him to, you know, to stay all that because and James got triggered because, you know, they're talking about  Ariana's dog, the cat, the cat and the dog and then he, you know, James was like, Wait, I need to speak up because you know, I barely got to speak this season.

So he then made it about him. And then Rachel got in, you know, he brought up Rachel and then hippie and then Sandoval. That's when he said, Well, I've heard things about you. And I know, I think we all were like, Oh, my gosh,  because we saw in the preview, Sandoval say, like, you know, I've heard things about you.

So like, Oh, is he you talking about delegations? Right? I'm pretty sure he's just talking about what Rachel said in the lawsuit as far as like, what James Has done with the dog. Yeah. I very much think it's just related to that. I don't think it's anything else, but I just thought when Sandoval and James  speak, I have never thought, wow, James slayed that conversation.

No, they both are little babies who aren't getting their way and who are like, I'm better than, you know, I'm better than you. And I, I, I cannot stand when both of them go at it, because it's so stupid. It is, and great point too, because you forget though, Rachel said James, at the reunion, uh, before season 10, so season 9's reunion, Rachel said they hadn't had sex  in like, It had been like over a year that they had not had sex.

Something that, something wild. And so, yeah, of course James is, because every dig he takes at Sandoval is about them fucking, it's never about like Mm-Hmm. necessarily the deception or the, um, it's really never like so much focused on Ariana as it is like him taking digs at. Sand of all  fucking Raquel. And I think that that's interesting because that, that does to me point out like an insecurity of James and yeah, it's always just a dick measuring contest.

It never has anything to do with any real feelings of, um, or like any, like he's not, James isn't being clever. He's just being spiteful. Uh, they're just not screaming and fighting about it physically.  Well, they can't.  Yeah, they would lose their check. So,  that's that. But that is weird. It is weird, right?

This whole reunion. They aren't yelling at each other. Like, things get heated.  But there is no yelling and that's what I think is making it so interesting because you are able to hear everybody everyone. Yeah. Um, even though sometimes like Joe was talking under people, which is really weird. Yeah. And then Lala would be talking over people at times, but not in a yelling way.

So I really, again, like, I just think they're all like you guys. Cannot yell this reunion. Here's a Xanax for everybody.  I think more than anything, I think it was probably such a pain in the ass for the, uh, sound mixing department from last reunion. Oh, I'm sure. I bet that was so fucking difficult and I bet they were like, you guys want us to fucking work on this show for whatever the hell you pay us?

They can't yell and yeah, and the amount of times they probably had to reset every time James went to the bathroom So they're like James slow down for sure. Let's just literally they're like James your ass is glued to the seat Listen,  you don't pee you don't pee and you don't buzz. Guess what? When, if you stay in your seat the whole time, there's going to be a mountain of blow for you in the back, in your room, you're going to be a literal scar face.

Okay.  Just kidding. Not really, but allegedly we don't know that any of them do drugs. Only the summer house allegation. Never heard of anyone. No, God forbid you any drug talk about the show. No, no, no, no, no. That's against the rules. It's speculation.  Um, Well, Lindsay, I think that's about it that we can we kind of just leave off on Sandoval,  you know, saying 

So any last thoughts before we so you so we have two podcasts that we're gonna potentially have to listen to after this shenanigans, we haven't listened to to get the scoop on Laurie Kaye possibly and And  by the way,  I'm not delusional. This is exactly what's gonna happen. Sheena Shea is gonna You Make a little comment, uh, and I saw that Brittany was at Jackson's and so was Lori.

Kay. That was weird. Anyway, Janet, that's what she's gonna do. So, well, let me, let me, for right now, let's just not even get our heart broken and let me type in  in it. Laurie. Laurie. Great. And you gotta spell it a couple of different ways 'cause Yes, because Alec picks it up. R is not the typical, but L-A-U-R-I-E. 

Might come up. Nope, she does not talk about it on the podcast. God damn it, Sheena. I know, but I don't know when they recorded this and when that picture came out, you know? Um, although Yeah, because that one will come out Tuesday night and she I think she does record on Tuesdays. Or when, yeah, or Wednesdays or something.

Yeah. So maybe she hadn't seen it yet, but yeah, we have shenanigans to listen to, and then we have Schwartz on when reality hits, which apparently that is an interesting one.  Well, guys used to be chill. Y'all y'all I'm tired.  Me too. I'm not even doing anything. I'm literally on bedrest, like legitimately on bedrest.

Listening to these podcasts cannot be good for your gallbladder.  Listen, Brittany had to have hers taken out at 23. You know why? Because a mammal is beer cheese. Yeah, that's why.  Lawsuit lawyers, buckle up.  I'm gonna come in for you. Guys, thank you guys so much for listening. My name is Emily Rose. You can find my Instagram account at WhoTFKnowsEmilyRose It's at WhoTFKnowsEmilyRose  WTFKEmilyRose on Twitter.

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But, you know, if you can, I have a Buy Me a Coffee. It's in the show notes, as does Lindsay. So, Lindsay, why don't you plug that and everywhere else they can find you.  Oh yeah, you can find my Instagram at vanderpodrecaps. I also have a BuyMeCoffee, and also me and Brady, potentially, maybe, but don't hold me to it, but we're trying to work on a Patreon situation for us, but we're thinking about different things, so, you know, we're in the brainstorming process, but this is me saying it out loud so, like, I can hold myself to it. 

This is not going to be a something about her situation guys. Oh my,  give me two years. We got permits.  They have so many permits. Oh my God. All right, guys. I love you guys. And I will talk to you guys later, but bye.