Breaking Out of the Matrix with Bruce Lipton

Stem cell biologist and quantum physics expert, Bruce Lipton, joins me on this episode of the Body Literacy Podcast. Bruce walks us through how subconscious programming creates disease states of the body and mind and how we can empower ourselves to energetically rewire ourselves for health, happiness, and, as he puts it, Heaven on Earth.

As Bruce guides us through quantum physics and human consciousness, you'll be captivated by the idea that our minds have the power to extend beyond the physical realm to manifest our reality. Love, as Bruce explains, isn't just a feeling but a biological state that can have profound effects on our health and relationships. Ever considered how your cells are like a community that's constantly renewing itself? This conversation unveils the stunning parallels between cellular biology and human interaction.

The importance of balance in relationships and self-love is brought to light through an examination of atomic behavior, driving home the message that inner harmony is essential to healthy connections.

You can find Bruce online at https://www.brucelipton.com where he shares his programs and upcoming events and speaking engagements.

This episode is sponsored by Beam Minerals, and our favorite hydrogen water partners, Holy Hydrogen and LumiVitae. Visit Jen’s Favorite Things tab at https://www.jenmayo.com for more information and available coupon codes for discounts on our favorite bio-optimization products.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:37

In the movie the Matrix. What's the premise of the movie? Everybody is programmed. That's a fact of life. Your life was programmed. In the first seven years your brain, operating in theta, downloaded what you observed. Your brain was like a video recorder. It turns out 60% or more of the programs you download in that first seven years are disempowering, self-sabotaging and limiting beliefs. But in the movie you could take a red pill and get out of the program. Now comes the biggest question of all how to change those programs if you don't like the ones you're living. The biggest question of all how to change those programs if you don't like the ones you're living. There's no gene that causes cancer. How much of disease is actually connected to genes? Less than 1%. We have to change the way we are living on the planet at this very moment. That civilization as we know it today is going to collapse.

Speaker 2: 3:47

All right, welcome to the show, Bruce. I'm so excited to have you on today.

Speaker 1: 3:52

I am just as excited as you are. Even more so, you know, because your audience to me is a very important audience. These people out there, all of you wonderful people, are cultural creatives seeking some answers that are not in the box, that are necessary at this time of craziness. And I just want to emphasize that this time of craziness is not actually crazy. It's anticipated, expected why we're in an evolutionary upheaval and this upheaval means we're changing civilization or hoping to change civilization. And there's a simple reason. I love it because the math is this simple that if we want to keep civilization operating just the way it is at this minute, just say okay, just everybody, continue. It takes 1.6 planet Earth to provide the resources for today's civilization. Well, there's a serious problem right there with the math 1.6 planets we only have one. Where are we getting the extra resources for that extra 0.6 planet? And the answer is we're destroying the environment in the process of pillaging nature.

Speaker 1: 5:00

At this point, nasa scientists have told us in a factual understanding, that civilization as we know it today is going to collapse. And it didn't say collapse, it said irreversible collapse. If you understand the meaning, it says we can't go back to the way we're doing today, because the way we're living today is causing a problem that we're facing right now. So there's an evolution, and the evolution says we have to change the way we are living on the planet at this very moment and understanding who we are and maybe finally getting back to the reality that people have lost sight of, reality that people have lost sight of.

Speaker 1: 5:46

We are nature. We came from nature. We can only exist because nature exists, because that was the environment we evolved in. As we're destroying nature, it's threatening the human population. But let me a very important point. Civilizations have been here before and have collapsed. It doesn't mean that all the people go, but the way we live on the planet will change profoundly in order for us to survive and the followers on this dear station, with our dear Jennifer up here, is that we are going to change and we now have to look at what are the necessary things we need to do to move into the future and thrive into that future.

Speaker 2: 6:26

Well, you know, and I think you know, the funny thing is science is supposed to be the study of nature and it seems to have evolved into man's quest to dominate nature. And it seems like the more we go on that path, the further we get from nature and the worse things get.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Yes, obviously, because it's always that simple question How's that working out? How are we doing here? I say well, the web of life is collapsing because of human behavior. And it says we are the source of the problem. First of all, let's understand.

Speaker 1: 7:02

Nature is a garden, and what I mean by a garden is that in a garden, all the species live in harmony. That's what a garden is about. So the idea of a garden is cooperation. And yet we've designed a world where the primary motivation is competition, and I go. Well, that's where the problem comes from Competing. No, we're supposed to be living in harmony with, and we're failing to do that, and this is affecting us in so many different ways, from agriculture to medicine and everything it says. Wait, maybe our behavior has to be reconsidered, and in fact, this is so necessary in science because there's a renaissance.

Speaker 1: 7:44

I go what do you mean? I said a change in the fundamental nature of what science, and especially medicine, is all about. I go, what do you mean? I go well, basically, our belief systems have been way off, out of balance and we have to come back in. So the garden? The garden is cooperation. We're living in competition. Well, the first thing is we have to change that understanding and we're in the process right now of doing that. And you look around and go well, look at all the chaos. I go. Well, here's a simple fact. So I don't want people to be afraid. What do you mean afraid? I say well, civilization is collapsing. A lot of people are like oh my God, the sky is falling and I go no, you don't understand what's going on here.

Speaker 1: 8:27

What's going on right now is we have to change the nature of civilization.

Speaker 1: 8:34

And we cannot fix the existence of the way we live. Why? Because that's the cause of the problem. No matter how many band-aids you want to put on the world to try to fix it, it doesn't work and therefore we have to actually move into a change. So I said well, what does that mean? I said, well, the current civilization, by evolutionary understanding, has to collapse and build a new version of civilization. Buckminster Fuller was a futurist who told us very simply don't go into the system and fight the system. Step outside the system, build a new system and then the people will come to the new system.

Speaker 1: 9:14

Well, that's actually happening, especially in regard to medicine. Think about it. How long ago was it we started to move from conventional allopathic into complementary or integrated medicine? I say well, that's a profound difference. I say why? Because the old story is genes control your life. You're a physical machine and if it's not working right, we need to do some physical adjustment, give you some drugs and things like that. And basically now we're turning wait a minute.

Speaker 1: 9:46

That was based on an old idea of physics called Newtonian physics. I go. You know, we all heard that I go. What's profound Newtonian physics? The universe is divided into two separate realms matter and energy and they don't interact with each other. So what was made out of matter is affected by matter. What is ever made out of energy is affected by energy. I say so what? And I said well, when we look at a human body, it's matter. I said so what does that mean? Conventional understanding the only way you can repair matter was other matter. Right, I go, what's other matter? I go the pharmaceutical company they make physical drugs for your physical body. I go, that was cool, except that whole understanding of physics is completely wrong. I go what do you mean? Because matter is an illusion. Oh, now, that's Lipton's crazy. I'm sitting here on my own place, sitting on a chair, looking at a screen. I live in a room and I, what do you mean? It's not matter, I can see it all I matter. I go, that's an illusion. I love it. Einstein's quote is reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one. And the point about that is what? And I say what's the difference between the physics that we were just talking, newtonian, and the new physics, quantum? And I said well, I'll tell you what the difference is.

Speaker 1: 11:12

When we look at matter, we talk about atoms. And then when we say atoms, oh, they're made out of smaller particles, which are protons, neutrons, electrons and all that stuff. And then we just found matter to be smaller and smaller. But when the reality came in, that well, what's at the bottom of all of it? What's the bottom? You take that atom fully apart, you take that electron or proton apart and you find quarks. I go, oh, yes, well, there's smaller particles. I go, yeah, but where do you take those apart? There's nothing physical inside an atom. An atom is an energy vortex, like a tornado of energy. And the idea. I say, so what about it? I say, well, energy is invisible, folks, number one, and that everything is energy, number two, so that means everything interacts with everything? I go, yes, it does.

Speaker 1: 12:03

And what we left out of the story is the most important part of the new physics. I say, what is it? The new physics talks about energy. Everything is energy. We're in energy fields, and I go so what are energy fields? I say, well, these are broadcast energies. Everything is energy. I go so what? Well, then, everything is connected to each other. In other words, the body is energy and it's affected by energy. Right, you go, oh, energy, what's energy? That's invisible forces. Okay, let's clear up a point, because obviously I look at your beautiful face, I look at mine. Oh, mine's not as beautiful and some hair could be good.

Speaker 2: 12:43

But I think you're doing all right.

Speaker 1: 12:46

The difference is simply this I see you, you see me, I see a physical world behind me and all this stuff like that. And then I say, well, if energy is invisible, then how could I see you? And that's really a good question starting. And the answer is and I say it and I love it because when I say it to the audience they all giggle. I say no, this is a fact. I say you can see me because the lights are on. No, no, you don't get it. I'll tell you why you don't get it.

Speaker 1: 13:14

Light are photons of energy, and so you're being bombarded with a photon array of sunlight or interior light. Your light photons are hitting you and so you're being bombarded with a photon array of sunlight or interior light. Your light photons are hitting you and I go. But you're an energy body. I go, yeah, so what? And I say photons are deflected back. When they hit your body, they're reflected back. So when you're looking at me or the beautiful woman I'm next to over here, recognize this. Without light, you can't see us. With light, you see us, not because you see us, but because the veneer of photons boom, hitting me are being pushed back to you and you see a layer of photons.

Speaker 1: 13:56

I say, what's under that layer of photons? They say, well, that's invisible energy matter, body, a body is invisible. I go oh, come on. I go. Hey wait, you know what happened with the new physics? We had new scan systems CAT scans, mri scans, positron scans. I go. So what I said? Well, they visualize the body. You can actually look right through the body and see stuff. I go well, let's start with a premise that we have to understand.

Speaker 1: 14:22

These devices do not see light, they only read energy but, energy is invisible, yeah, but an energy scan can be visualized by translating back into light again. So when you see a scan of a human body with a CAT scan, oh yeah, there's the lungs, the liver, the bones, the muscles, blah, blah, blah. You lungs, the liver, the bones, the muscles, blah, blah, blah. You're not looking at anything physical. The scan doesn't see physical, it only sees energy. So this is what you really look like You're an energy field which is invisible, but the photons of light actually illuminate that energy field by reflecting back. Okay, so we have to understand that. And I go. So why is this important? Well, what do we talk about energy? Well, there's two kinds of energy Waves that just go on and on and on, like broadcast waves, okay, but there's some energies that spin like a tornado. And I say, oh, there's two different versions waves or spinning. Well, the spinning ones, like a tornado, actually have a force to them that you can feel. I said what do you mean? Well, look, a tornado, you see it, because it's got all the dirt and dust and that column of dirt and dust that's going through space. I go the tornado is not the dirt and dust, the tornado is the force invisible, right, If you filter out the dirt and dust of a tornado, it's invisible. I go, but it might be invisible. But try and drive your car through a tornado and the answer is there's no way that's going to happen because the tornado force is so great it will lift up your car and throw it away. Right, Wait, there's a force. Yeah, you try and push on the tornado, it pushes back. Right, you push on an atom, it pushes back, yeah. So I say well, how can I be sitting in a chair right here, when a chair is made out of energy and I'm made out of energy, why don't I just fall through? And the answer is this the atoms that make up a chair, all atoms, nanotornadoes but you collectively take all the atoms making up the chair and there's a force strong enough that when you sit on that chair, the force of the atoms, the little tornadoes, the force of them, holds you up. If you touch something and you feel physical, it's only because whatever you were just touching was made out of atoms, and atoms are energy fields, vortexes. So when you push on the wall, it feels very solid. I said, yeah, but if you take it apart, they're atoms. If you take those apart. They're only energy. So let me give a quote, and if you get this quote, this is so fundamental to everything in our world and it comes from Albert Einstein, so I'm going to quote the good guy here. And the quote is the field is the sole governing agency of the particle. Let me go. The field, oh, the invisible energy. Okay, is the sole governing agency of the particle. What's the particle? Another form of energy, it's a different energy. Okay, so the invisible fields are shaping what we see as the visible field. Okay, and you go. Okay, I'll give you an example.

Speaker 1: 17:42

I use it in my lecture. If you take a piece of iron and you file it down, you get a pile of iron dust Iron filings, they're called. You put those iron filings in a salt shaker, you sprinkle them on a piece of paper and you get a pile of iron filings, just random pile. Every time you do it, random pile. Iron filings, just random pile. Every time you do it, random pile. But if you put a magnet underneath that paper and then you sprinkle the iron filings, it's not random anymore, it's in that beautiful array called the magnetic field.

Speaker 1: 18:16

I say so, what's the difference, with or without the magnet? I say, well, there's no field. That's random. But when I have a field, I've organized the matter. I go oh, isn't that the quote? I go, yeah, the field is the sole governing agency of matter. Well, we're a matter, but we're governed by our fields.

Speaker 1: 18:38

I say, what fields are there? I say, well, there's all kinds of fields, but maybe perhaps the one we should talk about, the most important one, is your mind, is a broadcast of fields, right? Well, yeah, put wires on a person's head, eeg electrocephalograph. I could read your brain action. Well, brain action is electromagnetic fields. That's what the brain does. Neurons fire no, they fire, they're generating electric fields. That's what the brain does. Neurons fire no, they fire, they're generating electric fields. That's what firing is all about. So I could read your brain activity by putting wires up here, by conducting the electric fields to the skin, and I could read your brain activity. Everybody goes, yeah, inside my head, all of this energy is going on. Then I go aha, in addition to electromagnetic acet graph, the EEG with wires on your head.

Speaker 1: 19:26

I could read your brain function with another probe. And I go what do you mean? I said the probe is out here. I said what is the reading? It's called magnetoencephalograph, not electroencephalograph. It reads the magnetic fields, I go. So why is that important? Because it reads brain activity, I go yeah, but why is that important? The probe is out here, right? So logically, let's conclude something your thoughts are not contained in your head. Your brain is a tuning fork.

Speaker 1: 19:57

Right it sends out vibrations, but vibrations interact with vibrations. So what does that mean? Your brain is generating a field and the field is the sole governing agency of matter. Your brain is governing the material expression of your body, you change the electromagnetic fields, you change the consciousness and you change the body.

Speaker 1: 20:20

Well, this is physics, I go. Well, let me emphasize it before I make a jump. And the emphasis is this the most valid, truthful of all the sciences that we know on earth today is quantum physics. Most predictive of all the sciences, I go. So why is that important? You ready?

Speaker 1: 20:39

Principle number one from 1927 to today the mind is the creator of our life experiences, exactly. And all of a sudden it says well, if your life experiences aren't that happy, where do you want to go? Look for where the problem is. And the answer is oh, the problem is Quantum physics. The problem started here. Newtonian physics oh, the problem started out there. Right, exactly.

Speaker 1: 21:07

People walking around saying, oh, my life is interfered with by these and this and these people, and they're all interfering with me and I go. You are a creator. You allow them to interfere with you, with your creation.

Speaker 1: 21:21

Right right, interfere with you with your creation, right, right, uh, let's summarize this for my, my audience here, for a simple thing, because most people have seen the movie the matrix. Yeah, I go. Oh, if you go to the video store when I used to have them, uh, you say where's the matrix? I say, oh, it's in science fiction. And I go, okay, today's video store, if we had had them. I say where's the matrix? It's in documentaries.

Speaker 2: 21:46

Right, what do you mean? Documentaries? Exactly, I go why?

Speaker 1: 21:50

Because what's the premise of the movie?

Speaker 1: 21:53

The premise of the movie is everybody is programmed. Yeah, well, that's science, folks. Why your life was programmed in the first seven years of your life? Because your brain was acting in a state of hypnosis in childhood time. I say why?

Speaker 1: 22:12

Because how is an infant to learn the rules of living in a family and the rules of living in the community? I say what do you mean? I say well, there's thousands of rules you have to live by. You can't make up your own rules for life. So I say, well, how do you learn the rules? I say, well, there's thousands of rules you have to live by. You can't make up your own rules for life, right? So I said, well, how do you learn the rules?

Speaker 1: 22:26

I said well, if you're an infant, you can't go to school, can't read the book. How do you know? Right, nature created the first seven years of your life where your brain is not at the level of consciousness. Your brain has a lower vibration putting those wires on your head, eeg. The lower vibration is called theta. It's just below consciousness. And I said, well, what is theta? Well, I say it's characterized by imagination. I go. That's why kids under seven readily mix the imaginary world and the real world and make it one. I said what do you mean? I said, well, I'm sure Jennifer, maybe, when she was young, had tea. I said what do you mean? Oh well, we poured the tea. Nothing into the cup, nothing, we drank nothing. It was the best tea we ever had.

Speaker 2: 23:17

Exactly Okay.

Speaker 1: 23:20

Or if you're one of those that were riding on a broom and saying this is a horse, and I say in your mind Theta, it is a horse, it's imagination becoming real. Now your mom says give me the broom. And you look at her like what are you talking about? Why, because in that moment it is not a broom. In theta imagination it has become a horse. Okay, so first, seven years, theta oh, I didn't tell you this. Oh, theta is hypnosis.

Speaker 2: 23:56

Yep.

Speaker 1: 23:57

And I go. So why is that important? I said, well, how do you think you learn to be a member of a family and how you learned to live in this world out here? And I said, in the first seven years your brain, operating in theta, downloaded what you observed. Your brain was like a video recorder. It looks at your mom, your dad, records the video of their behavior into your hard drive, subconscious and it becomes a program. And this is a program of behavior that you learn by observing from other people. So where'd you get your behavior from? Not from you. You got it from your parents, family and community in the first seven years of downloading. And this controls your life. I go. Why? My conscious mind? That's the creative one that's me, that's spirit, that makes me individual, subconscious database, hard drive programs. Why can't I run my life? In my conscious mind I say, well, you can, but you don't Right, why don't I?

Speaker 1: 25:01

Science has recognized that the conscious mind, of course, does two different things. It could look out your eyes. Pretend you're a vehicle and your body is driving down the street. Your eyes are looking out the windshield and your conscious mind got the hands on the wheel. And where is the conscious mind going Wherever you want it to go Wishes and desires. That's great. But then part two conscious mind's other function, thinking. Okay, hey, virginia, today is Tuesday. You want to tell me what you're doing on Thursday. Now, I don't believe she has that written right in front of her right now, but, jennifer, you could probably tell me what you're going to do on Thursday after what.

Speaker 1: 25:41

Thinking about it, right Well, thinking, I said where's that? I said where'd you get the answer of what you're doing on Thursday? Oh, I thought. I said where's the thought Inside? I said wait a minute. If I'm driving the vehicle and I start thinking, then I'm not looking out the window, because now my consciousness is looking for what am I doing on Thursday? Right, well, you actually do this. And if you've been driving the car for a while not a beginner, guess what? When you start thinking, are you looking at the windshield of your vehicle, the real vehicle, the driving vehicle? I say no, when you're thinking, you're still looking inside. I go. Then who's driving the car? I go.

Speaker 1: 26:24

Driving the car is a program. You learn how to drive a car. So if I want to drive a car, I don't have to do it manually, I can push programs. Subconscious, subconscious drives the car. Now he goes.

Speaker 1: 26:37

Why is this so relevant? And the answer is that scientists have recognized that virtually everybody thinks about 95% of the day. So what? Well, if you're thinking, you're not looking out the window for your life, right? I say well, that doesn't mean you're just standing there like dumbfounded. You're still doing, walking, talking, driving, whatever I go.

Speaker 1: 27:02

Why? Because the subconscious programs you learn how to do the repetitive things that you know how to do. So when you are thinking, your life is not controlled by your creative conscious mind, which is inside, looking. Your life is controlled by the programs. Yeah, but I said, but where'd you get the programs from Other people?

Speaker 1: 27:21

Then all of a sudden, I say, oh my God, when I am thinking, my subconscious programs are playing. And the point about it is this when we are thinking, we're not observing our own behavior, right. So I say, why is that important? Because it turns out 60% or more of the programs you download in that first seven years are disempowering, self-sabotaging and limiting beliefs. Yeah, and then all of a sudden I say, well then is your life run by your conscious, creative mind? I say, no, it's run by the program.

Speaker 1: 27:58

Right, right, personal story, true, okay, my father and mother had a very dysfunctional relationship. But I'm a kid and I'm downloading my father's behavior. What do you think I downloaded? I say what was the consequence? I said I couldn't get a relationship off the ground for 40 plus years. I go why not? Because once I got into a relationship and my father's programming because I was thinking and my father's behavior came out. My partner didn't see my thinking. My partner saw my program and that program, being dysfunctional, is like okay, bruce, see you around. Why? Because I didn't see that the behavior I was playing was not creating a relationship, it was destroying relationships. Okay, so then I say so what was the point? 95% of my life was coming from programming. I didn't see it. All I knew is I couldn't get a relationship.

Speaker 1: 28:59

It turns out that was programming. Okay, and I go. So why is this relevant? I say so, guess what? Hey, the movie the Matrix is that You're all programming. I go yeah, well, that's a fact of life, right, and I love this part. You're ready for this part? This is cool. But in the movie you could take a red pill and get out of the program, exactly. I go guess what? Almost everybody out here right now. Every one of you out here has taken that red pill at one time and got out of the program with the most amazing experience. Exactly I said when was that Science has recognized? When you fall in love, you stop thinking.

Speaker 2: 29:40

Yes.

Speaker 1: 29:40

Then you stay present. Yeah, I mean it makes logic. You stop thinking, then you stay present. I mean it makes logic. If you've been looking for somebody your whole life and they show up, why would you be thinking back here and not being here? So when you fall in love, you stop thinking. I go, yeah, but what does that mean? You ready, here it goes. Well, then you're not engaging the program. I go yeah, that's true. I say then what's controlling your life? I say the conscious mind. It's not thinking. I say isn't that the mind with creativity, wishes and desires? I go yes. And so what do you think happened? You fell in love and you created the honeymoon?

Speaker 2: 30:15

Yep, and I will say so most people know that are most familiar, I think, with your book the Biology of Belief, which is amazing, but the Honeymoon Effect was actually the first book of yours that I read in. My marriage was troubled at that point in time and my mom introduced me to it and it was just like this light bulb moment of understanding how our relationships with other people impact our own physical health even and what like an eye opener that was. Can you tell us like what are the dynamics of the energy and chemistry of love and fear that are really playing out on the world landscape right now? Hey friends, you've likely heard me talk about hydrogen water before. I use the Lord's Hydrafix hydrogen pitcher at home and I have added the Lumivitae cell-powered water bottle to my repertoire when I'm on the go.

Speaker 2: 31:12

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Speaker 2: 32:10

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Speaker 1: 32:51

Yeah, well, let's just talk about this. Based on some research I did 50 years ago and I was cloning stem cells. So, very quickly a stem cell it's another name for embryonic cell the moment before you were born. If I did a histological look at some cells and I said, oh, that's an embryo cell, if I waited a minute after you were born, did the same thing and looked at the same cell, I'd say, oh, that's a stem cell. So basically I say, why? Because your body is made out of 50 trillion cells. You say, oh, I'm a single entity. I am Bruce. I go yeah, but Bruce is a community of 50 trillion cells. And I say the cells are the living entity. Bruce, by definition, is a community of living cells. Yeah, I go. So what? So I say, well, guess what?

Speaker 1: 33:41

While we've been talking, every second we lost up to 3 million cells. I go what? Yeah, 3 million cells die about every second, 1 to 3 million. I go. So what's the point? I say how long can you live if you keep losing 3 million cells every second? I go well, you would die, that would be true, but you're still here. I say, well, how come? I said because every time you lose a cell. A stem cell replaces the dead cell. So you stay at the same level. I'm losing 3 million, I'm making 3 million.

Speaker 1: 34:16

Where Stem cells? So what are stem cells? Embryonic cells, so what? So here's what I did. So this changes the world for me and then led to a whole new understanding of biology and health. I said what was it? I put one stem cell in a Petri dish. That's called cloning. I said why? Because that cell divides every 10 or 12 hours. So I got one cell and then 10, 12 hours later, two cells, 10 to 12 hours later, four cells and it doubles. And it doubles At the end of the week.

Speaker 1: 34:46

My culture dish started with one cell but now has 30,000 cells in it. I go so what's unique? I say well, they all came from one parent. I have 30,000 genetically identical cells. We grow cells in something called culture medium and I'm going to come back to this because this is the ultimate secret of life, but I'll give it to you simply.

Speaker 1: 35:07

First, I say I grow cells in culture medium in the lab. Culture medium is what Laboratory version of blood, that's what cells live in the blood. I say okay. So I say I make the culture medium recipe, but I can change a couple of the ingredients, which I did. So I take the dish 30,000 genetically identical cells, split them into three dishes. Okay, I said what's the difference? Well, all dishes genetically the same, but I make a slight chemical difference in the culture, medium, the fluid in which the cells live. So I have three different culture medium, abc. So I say, in dish one, environment A, the cells form muscle. In dish two, slightly different environment B, the cells form bone. And in dish three, slightly different environment, and the cells form fat cells.

Speaker 1: 36:01

Well, I was teaching medical students genes control life. And then in the lab, what did the cells just show me? Think of what it just said the fate of the cell was not determined by the genes. They all had the same genes. It was determined by the environment that was selecting the gene activity. I go then genes didn't control. I say no, that's a false belief we've carried for 50 years. Somebody once said genes turn on and turn off. I go what is a gene? It's a blueprint to make a protein. We have 100,000 proteins and we need blueprints to replace them, because proteins break down. They're what give you your biology the proteins. So you have to replace the proteins. Well, you need a blueprint. That's called a gene.

Speaker 2: 36:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 36:55

It's a blueprint, so why am I emphasizing? Go into an architect's office and she's working on a blueprint. You ask her hey, is your blueprint on or off? She would look at you like, hey, man, what are you crazy? It's a blueprint. There's no on and off to a blueprint. Jeans do not turn on and off. Jeans are red or not red. Who's the reader? I go not the genes, the mind.

Speaker 2: 37:30

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:31

The mind sends chemistry to the cells in the blood. Oh, here it comes. My research was cells in a plastic dish with culture medium. You are a skin covered Petri dish. Yeah, you got 50 trillion cells under your skin and they have the original culture medium blood. And I go does it make a difference if the cells in the plastic dish or the skin dish? I go, nope, it's still controlled by the environment. In the case of the body, it's the blood. So I say so the chemistry of the blood was the chemistry of the culture medium. I go yeah, now comes an interesting fact the brain's the chemist. Yeah, it determines what chemistry is going to be in the body and which, you know which genes are going to be activated. Now comes the biggest question of all that blows everything out of the water. So what chemistry should the brain put into the blood? And it turns out you ready.

Speaker 2: 38:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 38:35

Whatever picture you hold in your mind, the brain's job is to translate that picture into complementary chemistry that matches the picture. So if I have a picture of love, I release great chemistry, dopamine, pleasure. That's why we love to be in love. Pleasure, oxytocin, bonding to your lover, growth hormone oh, what does that do? It says what it does it enhances our growth, right. So I say, a picture of love gives you pleasure and vitality. When people fall in love, they glow. Oh, look how in love they are, see how healthy they are. I go. That's not an accident, that's chemistry, right.

Speaker 1: 39:18

I go so what I say well, wait, what if I have a picture of fear? I go. So what I say well, wait, what if I have a picture of fear, I go. You don't release love chemistry In fear, you release stress chemistry. Stress chemistry like cortisol or factors that inhibit your immune system I go. Why? Because that takes a different response than love and therefore you change the function of the body by which chemistry you just released into the body In love, I'm in growth, in fear, I'm in protection. I say that you can't be in both at the same time. Why? Growth is open, assimilate. You want food, eat it. You want love, take it in. Protection is not open. Protection is close it off, roll it off, keep me away. I say, well, growth is open and protection is closed. You can't be in growth and protection at the same time.

Speaker 2: 40:16

Right, and how has that dynamic of either being in growth or protection, or love or fear, how has that played out, do you think, especially in recent years?

Speaker 1: 40:29

in terms of people's health. Yeah well, let's give a very simple thing. There's something called the biological imperative. People go what the hell is that? Oh, it's the drive to survive. Biologists know it exists, but they have never been able to pinpoint. Where is it, this drive? Well, here's the problem. Bacteria have this drive. I go. What do you mean? You try to kill a bacterium. It's not going to go. Oh, okay, kill me. No, the bacterium is going to do everything to try and stay alive. What drives that? The biological imperative? We now know it's an energy field that does that. But let's just go back and recognize, just say what it is. We are driven to survive If we are threatened.

Speaker 1: 41:21

The mechanism of the body is to engage protection, unconsciously. It has nothing to do with you. Let's engage some protection. No, you're in fear. It's going to engage protection. Okay, so I go. So why is it doing it? I said well, the chemistry of the body puts you into protection, I go. So what does that mean? It shuts off growth and it shuts off the immune system. I go. Well, that's protection to wall off things. But why should it shut off the immune system? I go.

Speaker 1: 41:52

Well, let me give you the whole story right here very quickly, if I can, and that is simply this In a resting state where we are now very happy and I can see Jennifer's dreaming in a restful state right now, and I could see Jennifer's dreaming in a restful state right now I go. This is really cool Because in that state the body is being encouraged to take care of itself and replenish the resources, repair damage. I said what part of my body is taking care of my health and my vitality? I said the gut, why, this is where the organs are. We're bringing nutrition in. Why this is where the organs are. We're bringing nutrition in. Take out waste product, fix everything here.

Speaker 1: 42:27

So okay, here's the little secret. It's very important. Every bodily function takes energy. I said where do you get the energy from? I said, ah, the blood carries the energy. All the building blocks, the energy, it's oxygen, food. It's all in the blood. So I say, wherever the blood is, then those organs are being given energy to do their job. So here's the story Right now, in a resting state, where do you think your blood is? It's in your gut, all the organs here. And I say, yeah, that's maintaining all my functions. But what happens if the saber-toothed tiger is chasing me. I need to get him protection. I say yeah, but protection? What organs do I need to protect myself? A pancreas, a gallbladder? No, arms and legs. I need to be able to run, fight or flight. So I say, oh well, most of the blood is here in the gut. So in the textbook it says when stress hormones are released into the body, the blood is preferentially sent to the arms and legs to encourage what Energy to run.

Speaker 2: 43:40

Yeah, to survive rather than thrive.

Speaker 1: 43:43

How did you get the blood from the gut to the arms and legs? Stress hormones shut the blood vessels in the gut. When they squeeze the blood vessels in the gut, the blood is pushed to the arms and legs. So the moment you're in fear which is a stress you can actually feel the blood vessels doing it. Why it's called queasy. I feel queasy or I feel butterflies in my stomach. I say what's that Fluttering of the blood vessels squeezing like this?

Speaker 1: 44:13

Okay, you can feel it and your blood now getting out to your arms and legs. Well, what about your gut? I said, well, it's off duty, why it has no energy right now. But the muscles are, they're ready to go, run from that saber tooth tiger Right.

Speaker 1: 44:27

Okay. So I say, well that. So all of a sudden I say what's the first thing of stress? It shuts down the maintenance of the body and pushes the blood to the arms and legs. Number two you have an immune system. Yeah, that protects me from the threats on the inside. The adrenal system protects me from that damn saber-toothed tiger on the outside. Let's put a situation you have a bacterial infection, you could be having a case of diarrhea coming and you're being chased by a saber-toothed tiger. How do you want to split the energy? How much should I fight those bacteria and how much should I put the blood in the arms and legs to run away from the tiger? No brainer folks, the hell with the bacteria. If the tiger catches you, the bacteria is not your problem anymore, you know. So what's the point?

Speaker 2: 45:21

Stress, hormones, and I think we're seeing like so much gut dysfunction and its relationship to these chronic disease states. That's right, like this should be like very obvious to all doctors and everybody in the medical field, but it seems like you know that's getting lost in translation and the stress hormones shut off the immune system to conserve the energy.

Speaker 1: 45:45

Because look when you were sick. Sometimes you're so sick you don't have the energy to get out of bed. Ha ha, that means when the immune system is really working, it uses so much energy that you may not get out of bed.

Speaker 2: 45:56

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 45:57

So if I'm being chased by a saber-toothed tiger, I don't need to energize my gut, right, I need to run. So the immune system is shut down by stress hormones. And I want to show you how important it is. When doctors want to transplant an organ from person A and put it into person B, they don't want the recipient's immune system to reject the organ when they put it in there. They give the recipient stress hormones before the operation because that inhibits the immune system, so that the graft is not going to be immediately rejected. So they use stress hormones to shut off the immune system.

Speaker 1: 46:42

So I say two things have just happened One, I shut down the growth and maintenance of the body and fear. Number two, I shut off the immune system and fear, and fear causes you to make response real fast. Well, conscious thinking, the one that thinks, is slow compared to reaction. I say conscious thinking is from the conscious mind, reaction is from the programmed subconscious mind. So guess what, when I'm in a state of fear, I need to make reaction responses, not thinking. I need to go, not thinking, okay.

Speaker 1: 47:21

So the stress hormones, remember I said they shut the blood vessels in the gut Yep, and squeeze the blood vessels in the forebrain shut, why? I don't need the blood to energize thinking. I need the blood to go back to the hindbrain to energize reaction, right? So guess what? We also become less intelligent when we're in fear, right? So what's the result? Three things. Number one you shut down growth and maintenance of the body. Number two you shut off the immune system. Number three you shut off conscious creativity. These are results of stress hormones. Okay, yeah, in the field we always put disease. Oh, there's something wrong with the mechanism, oh, your organs aren't working right, your genes are not working right. And I say, well, how much of disease is actually connected to genes Ready? Less than 1%, right? Less than 1% of all illness on this planet has anything to do with defective genes.

Speaker 2: 48:29

And what role do you think? I mean? The Human Genome Project was, you know, a fascinating discovery and revelation in science, but at the same time, what role did that play in creating this victim consciousness around people's health?

Speaker 1: 48:47

Well, the first thing of victim consciousness is if you inherited the gene, you've also inherited the problem.

Speaker 2: 48:53

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 48:54

Okay, and therefore, when we look at things that run in families cancer, diabetes, heart conditions we oh, they're running in the family. What's passed? When we run in the family to the offspring, the genes are passed. Oh, well then cancer must be genes and heart disease must be genes and diabetes must be genes. No, folks, it turns out it's programming that has passed from generation to generation. That first seven years, because this sets your biology and your behavior. If you have a misprogram, then you have misfunction in your life. That's a consequence of that.

Speaker 1: 49:37

Okay, so I said you know what? Let's start with this premise that people just like don't know. I'll tell you right now. You know what. Let's start with this premise that people just like don't know. I'll tell you right now there's no gene that causes cancer. What do you mean? I've got the oncogenes breast cancer gene. Oh, my God, I go. They don't cause cancer, they're correlated with cancer. Right, I go. What do you mean? I said the cause wasn't the gene, the cause was the behavior that was dysfunctional that then activated the gene. I go, what do you mean? So let's give a simple. You get this understanding. It changes everything. You ready? Yeah, they were looking at what is the fate of a child, a baby, an infant, adopted into a family where there's cancer running in the family. The adopted child is going to get the same family cancer.

Speaker 1: 50:25

I go yeah but the adopted child has totally different genetics. I go aha. What was the point?

Speaker 2: 50:32

The culture medium was the same. The culture medium was exactly it.

Speaker 1: 50:36

What is passed to the child, what is downloaded to the child. That behavior is what controls the genes. It's called epigenetics. It's the revolution Genetics. You're a victim, why you didn't pick the genes. As far as you know, you can't change them if you don't like them, and then they turn on and off by themselves. You're under the control of genes. You're a victim. Epigenetics epi above Skin, epidermis. What does it mean? Just below the skin layer called dermis? What is skin Just above the dermis? Epidermis? Epi means above. Epigenetics means control above the genes. I go. What is it? The brain consciousness? I go. How does it do it? I said we just described it, but I'll remind you. The brain takes your thoughts, turns them into complementary chemistry in the blood, which then goes to 20, 50 trillion cells okay and regulates their genetics. It's called epigenetics control above the gene. It's a revolution Genetics victim, epigenetics master, why? You're the one that controls the chemistry of the growth medium.

Speaker 2: 51:57

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Speaker 1: 53:01

And all of a sudden it says well then, stop being a victim and start understanding you are the one that controls your health. I go through what? Through your consciousness. I go where's the problem? 90% or more, which it is, of disease at this moment in the world's healthcare crisis, 90% is all stress. All stress related Stress is generated by your consciousness. So all of a sudden, I go well, then I'm creating it.

Speaker 1: 53:33

I go well, look, when was the whole idea of stress evolving? Oh, 100,000, 200,000 years ago. And I go well, what were we afraid of? The saber toothtoothed tiger? What else? Are you afraid of the monkey? No, are you afraid of the earthworm? No, you're afraid of the saber-toothed. Yes, I say so what? When did you use your stress? Response Very limited, there were very few things to be afraid of. But I say so, you're being chased by a saber-toothed tiger. I say okay, so how long do I stay in stress Until I escape? I say how long will it take? Five minutes, 10 minutes? If you can run fast enough and get out of the way, then what? Well, once you avoided the saber-toothed tiger, you're no longer in stress. Oh, so stress was just you for a little period of time and then shut off.

Speaker 1: 54:27

Today, stress is 24, 7, 365. You live in stress every minute I go. So what's the result? You are flooding yourself with stress hormones which do what? Shut down your health and vitality and do what? Manifest disease. And all of a sudden it's like, oh my God. And do what? Manifest disease.

Speaker 1: 54:46

And all of a sudden it's like, oh my God, I've been programmed to be a victim, but in truth I am the one that controls the genetic expression of my cells and epigenetics is profoundly important because it reveals number one you can have a mutant gene, but with environmental control you can cover up that mutation and live normal. But the one I need to emphasize, please, the most is this you can have a healthy gene and in a stress environment, cause it to read as a mutated gene and that's where cancer comes from. There's no gene that causes the cancer, it's the experiences of life that activate the cancer. So when people talk about breast cancer, it's the OMA. You know, when a woman gets that diagnosis, with the belief system of genes controlling life, that's what she was programmed with. She said, oh my God, I got the cancer gene. I said what's the picture? Cancer. I said get that picture out of your mind, because the function of the mind is to take the picture and turn it into chemistry which can generate the cancer.

Speaker 2: 55:53

And how important do you think, or what impact do you think, the role of language has on all of this? Because when we talk about the war on cancer, or waging a battle in your body or taking antibiotics or antidepressants, there's so much anti-life verbiage that goes into these disease processes. The war, the war.

Speaker 1: 56:14

Yeah, okay, the idea is, let's go back to the environment. I said the environment is a garden. A garden is cooperation. There is no war in the garden until people got in the garden. Then we just started to destroy the garden because what?

Speaker 1: 56:30

We were the only ones not in harmony with nature and we thought we can control nature. I always relate that to saying, well, how are we doing with controlling nature? I say we're facing an extinction that we are causing, so maybe we're not doing that good and it's time for us to recognize harmony, not war, is what life is all about. And yet we've turned our life into a series of battles of all different kinds. Life is a struggle oh wait, isn't that Darwin? Yeah, life is a competition for survival and the struggle for life Competition, no, no, it's cooperation. Ooh, we were doing the wrong thing. I go Right the wrong way, and this is the wake-up call in the evolution that you're experiencing outside in the world.

Speaker 1: 57:21

Right now, the world's in a state of chaos. Why it's not sustainable. We have to create a new way, and the new way has to conform to the garden, because we are the garden. We came into the garden, not from outside. Dropped into the garden. Genesis, you know, like oh, god created the garden and then he threw some people in there. No, no, we came from the garden, we've come on top of it. So the idea of dominating the garden humans can control it and I say our efforts are really very interesting, because with all the controls we're enacting, we're killing ourselves by destroying the environment, why, if the environment doesn't exist, we can't exist, right? So the wake-up call is when are you going to start learning to live in harmony with the world? Rather than telling the world what you want, it's time for us to understand what the world wants of us.

Speaker 2: 58:21

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 58:22

And every organism that was added to the garden from day one. When you add an organism to the garden, that organism interacts with the garden. It takes nutrients out of the garden, puts waste into the garden. I say so what's the point? I said, well, you can't just have one organism, won't work. So the idea is first, we only had plants, I, I go. So what I say? Oh, plants are interesting, they take in carbon dioxide and they release oxygen. Oh, cool, so I go. So why is that important? Well, when there were only plants here, the oxygen levels of the atmosphere got so high. There were spontaneous fires with lightning strikes, boom, oxygen, too much oxygen. We, there was no balance. So we went from plants. What did we do? Animals, I go. What was the result? Well, they took the oxygen in and put out the carbon dioxide. The plants took the carbon dioxide and put out the oxygen. Balance we were in balance and that's what life is all about.

Speaker 2: 59:30

On that note, can you tell us what does the periodic table have to teach us about the world we live in, as well as love?

Speaker 1: 59:39

I love that because I know you read the book called the Honeymoon.

Speaker 1: 59:42

Effect and it comes down very simply. It simply says this Look at the periodic table of elements, 110 or 16 or some number like that. All of the chemicals in that periodic table interact with each other to make chemistry, molecules, interactions of elements. Okay, except one column on the far right side of the chart. It's called the noble gases Helium, argon, xenon, krypton strange names. They don't make chemistry. You don't find like argon, sulfate or helium carbonate, no, a whole series of elements that don't make chemistry.

Speaker 1: 1:00:25

I go, why not? Because there's something unique about that atom and this molecular structure, atomic structure. I go what Atoms have? Protons in the nucleus, which are positive, and electrons which run around the outside, which are negative. And there's a number of protons, the number of electrons outside which are negative, and there's a number of protons, the number of electrons. But when the electrons are running around the outside, we call that a shell, that it's running like in a shell. But shells have certain numbers. There are shells with two electrons filled, then there are eight. You need eight to fill the shell.

Speaker 1: 1:01:01

I say, well, what if you have seven? I say a seven electron doesn't fill the shell. So I say what? Well, it's spinning. All atoms are tornadoes. But now they're not spinning in balance because it's short an electron and so it wobbles as it spins. I say so what it's not living in balance? But if it's not living in balance, then it's not energy efficient. What it's not living in balance, but if it's not living in balance, then it's not energy efficient. So what will an atom do? An atom will find another atom with the opposite problem, an atom that has only one electron in the outer shell. And I say well, this one has seven, this one has one, but if the two of them come together they share their electrons. But if the two of them come together, they share their electrons, then they have eight in the outer shell and they're balanced. So chemistry is driven by the idea to balance the spin to make sure the electrons are in the full shell. Well, what about atoms that already have a full shell? Oh, those are called the noble gases.

Speaker 2: 1:02:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:02:04

Do they wobble when they spin? Nope, they spin in perfect balance. Why? Yeah, they have the exact number of electrons necessary to spin in balance. Do they need to hook up with another atom to balance? I say, nope, they spin on their own. Yeah, they balance pretty damn good, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:02:21

At first I thought, wow, poor noble gases. They don't make relationships. I go, but they do under certain circumstances. I say what is it? When a noble gas is bombarded with photons, it will activate the energy of that atom to a high vibe. And what's it going to do with the high vibe? It's going to hook up with another noble gas. They don't make chemistry. I say when they're in high vibe they come together. We'd normally talk about chemicals. When they come together like two different chemicals, say dimer, meaning two elements. I say, well, what happens when one gas, one noble gas, hooks up with another noble gas? It's called not a dimer, it is a dimer, yeah, but it's called an excitomer. Oh, I thought what does that mean? Because when they come together in that combination, they give off light. They give off light, they enlightened lasers. The light from a laser comes from noble gas, excitomers.

Speaker 1: 1:03:31

And so I say what about our relationships with people? I say almost all of us come with missing electrons. Most of us are not spending in perfect balance. We have disharmony in our lives. I say disharmony, you're not in balance and that's codependency.

Speaker 1: 1:03:44

But we do become in balance, right, well. Disharmony you're not in balance, and that's codependency. You become in balance, right? Well then your life is like a noble gas you don't need anybody. I'm spitting perfectly well, but if I get excited or enlightened, I'll hook up with other noble gas and together we'll create the laser light.

Speaker 2: 1:04:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:04:03

And that's what a relationship, when it's working. A laser light relationship is a relationship that gives off light and energy to others. This is when you find true love is when you are in balance. And I have to say, are we in balance? And I'm going to give you an answer that's profoundly important when it comes to this. It says if I do muscle testing, which is a way of reading your subconscious program, and we start with a statement I love myself, 80 to 90% of all people will not test positive for I love myself, I go. So why is that important? I say well, if you don't love yourself, then you're not spinning in balance.

Speaker 2: 1:04:50

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:04:51

And we have to learn to love ourselves. Because when you learn to love yourself, then you're open to receive love from other people. But if you don't love yourself and somebody says I love you, then you look at them and go, hey, what's wrong with you? I know I'm not lovable. What do you think I'm not lovable? I don't care what you say. And then you'll chase them away and then there won't be somebody there. Then you'll proudly say, see, I'm not lovable, there's nobody here, Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Speaker 1: 1:05:19

So what does it mean? Let's bring harmony to the world. Why? Because that's what evolution is all about. Learn to live in balance with nature and stop pillaging mother nature, if I use the harshest word, stop raping mother nature, right.

Speaker 2: 1:05:37

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 1:05:37

And we're destroying her. We have to learn to live in harmony. But I say, if you have to learn to live in harmony, then first you have to learn to live in harmony. In the old days most of you have my young friend over on the other screen right here she wasn't around in those old days. This was way long time ago, the hippy-dippy days. I go what was happening in the hippy-dippy days? And they say well, there was a statement that we need to know right now. And it says before you go out and change the world, take care of your own backyard. And that we need to know just as much today as we did 60 or more years ago. Why? Because if we're not living in harmony and balance, how do you expect the rest of the world to do it? To follow you? No, it's not going to work.

Speaker 2: 1:06:22

You know what.

Speaker 1: 1:06:23

I personally know this. Why? Because when I understood the molecular mechanisms of something called epigenetics and how it works and I was so excited because it takes us from victim to mastery and I wanted the people to understand how to master your life I would go give a lecture and I would say this is a molecular mechanism, this is how you create the most fabulous life. And then the audience would look at me and go you know, lipton, for a guy who says you know this, your life doesn't look that good. Oh my God, I was talking the talk, I was giving the knowledge, I wasn't walking the walk, I wasn't using it in my own life. What value was my message? None, why. Well, if it was so good, lipton, why does your life look so bad?

Speaker 1: 1:07:12

And all of a sudden. It's like I stopped lecturing and I said I'm either going to apply this stuff and it's either going to work or it's not going to work. If it works, I'm going to go back out there and tell them. If it's not going to work, I'll be quiet and just sneak out of here. What was the point? It was only in the shortest time that, applying the knowledge that I'm talking about to my own life, my life changed Within days. It was different, and I go. So what? Well, how's my life today? Well, you're looking at Bruce Noble Gas. Why? Because once I corrected the imbalances of my programming, all of a sudden I was in balance and harmony. And guess what? I needed to do that before I could find a relationship.

Speaker 1: 1:08:00

That's why, it took me over 40 years to find Margaret. But guess what? Margaret and I together are noble gases and together we spin in harmony. And in that harmony and giving off light, guess what? We live heaven on earth. That's a true story. Why? Because, we are the creators, but we're creating from balance, not from imbalance. Right, because creating from imbalance generates imbalance. Yeah, oh, that's where the problem comes from.

Speaker 2: 1:08:33

Exactly, and those are the most amazing relationships when you have two people come together who already complete themselves.

Speaker 1: 1:08:40

That's the way it will work best.

Speaker 2: 1:08:42

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:08:43

You know. And then let me explain well, how come people have the honeymoon and then 50% of marriages end in divorce? And I'll tell you exactly why. Because in the honeymoon you don't play programs. Yeah, you are creating.

Speaker 1: 1:08:57

But once you start thinking, wow, you have a job, you have responsibilities, things you got to do, you start thinking then where's the behavior coming from? The conscious, creative mind, the heaven on earth wishes and desires? Uh-uh, it comes from the subconscious program. I go yeah, but if you have dysfunction in there, then who's going to see that dysfunction? Not you, you're thinking. Who sees it? Your partner, because when the behavior starts coming out, that's not you. I love this response from most people a partner who just sees the programming of their partner for the first time. They go who are you? Where did that come from? And the person who has just created the problem says what are you talking about? They go they didn't see the program. You saw the program. And so when we start relationships, we started with everybody's creative wishes and desires manifesting. But over time it could be a week, it could be a month, it could be a year Over time the thinking process will bring up programs that are dysfunctional into the relationship and there's a point where 50% of marriages cannot stand that dysfunction. And then divorce. So I say so, why is the divorce rate high? Because people don't know they're playing programs that are self-sabotaging, because they're the ones that can't see it.

Speaker 1: 1:10:24

Let me close with this picture. It's the same picture. I've talked to my audiences for 40 years now, I guess, since 1980s. I say you have a friend, you know your friend's behavior very well and you happen to know your friend's parent. And one day you see your friend has the same behavior as their parents. So you've got to offer it. You know it's like hey, bill, you're just like your dad, right Back away from Bill. I know what Bill's response is and you know because you've experienced that I said what was it?

Speaker 1: 1:11:00

Bill's going to say how can you compare me to my dad? I'm nothing like my dad, I go. Everyone else sees a Bill, like his dad. Who's the one that can't see it? Bill, yeah, why? Well, he only plays the program he got from his dad when he's thinking so he's the one that can't see it, but everybody else does Right. And that leads us in a conclusion for the average person to walk away from an incident going I'm a victim. Those people out there created this problem. That person did this, this person did that, blah, blah, blah and walk away without recognizing they were the ones that initiated the problem with their behavior, that they didn't see the bill we're all, bill Every one of us is. See Right, the bill we're all bill.

Speaker 2: 1:11:47

Every one of us is bill Right.

Speaker 1: 1:11:48

We're all playing programs 95% of the day. Are the programs supporting you or not supporting you? When did you get the programs? It started before you were born. Last trimester of pregnancy is when the brain started downloading behavior Right Through age seven. So I said well, what are your programs? They go, um, I go. No, you weren't there when the programs were installed. I'll give you an example Tell me the program three months before you were born. Come on, I don't know what the hell. Okay, you were born. You live a whole year from zero to one. What programs did you get then? No, I don't have it, I don't know. Oh wait wait another.

Speaker 1: 1:12:28

You were programmed another whole year from one to two. How many programs you got when you were one and a half? No, I don't know what the program is. Okay, Around two to three, about three, you might start to remember some behaviors, Some memories come back. But you can't tell me the fundamental programs that happened before birth right up through age three. I said so, why is that a problem? I said you don't know your program. I go oh my God. I said no, you don't know your personal program. But then I'm going to give you the answer. The answer is simply this you ready, 95% of your life is coming from the program.

Speaker 2: 1:13:09

Right.

Speaker 1: 1:13:10

Your life is a printout of your behavioral programs. So let's summarize it and it's very simple the things you like that come into your life. They come in because you have a program to acknowledge those things. But and this is the one, wake up people, the things that you want and desire, but you struggle. You struggle to manifest them.

Speaker 1: 1:13:41

I'm working hard, I'm sweating over it, I'm putting a lot of effort in it. I'm going to make it happen. Why are you working so hard? The answer is whatever that destination you're seeking and you're struggling to get, it's not because nature won't give it to you, it's because your program doesn't support that destination. And you're going to try and override the program. That's working 95% of the day and the processor of the subconscious is a million times more processing power than the conscious.

Speaker 1: 1:14:07

Simple mathematics your life is controlled 95% of the day with a processor that's a million times greater than the conscious processor. What's the point? Hey, we're creating this. I go. Oh, that sounds novel. I go. No, guess what? Quantum physics, day one the mind is the creator. I go. Biology, epigenetics and quantum physics emphasize the total truth. We are spiritual entities in a physical body manifesting a life experience. We're not just victims of life experience. We are participants in creating life experiences. Well, if you don't like the life experiences, you can struggle all your life trying to come over those programs, or you can rewrite the program and then not worry about it anymore.

Speaker 2: 1:15:05

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:15:06

And the resolution is rewriting your subconscious programs, because that's where the freedom comes from, that's where the balance comes into, that noble gas that you can be, and when you are that noble gas, you know what. You don't even need a relationship, right, noble gases are happy with their lives just the way they are. But if another noble gas comes in, there's a great opportunity to share a life of harmony, beauty and love, and that's what real love is all about.

Speaker 2: 1:15:42

And I feel like at this point in time, we're seeing a lot of the noble gases finding each other and the way the internet and the world of social media and the desire for people to come together to create that community. Well, that's the evolution.

Speaker 1: 1:15:59

Community is the evolution we have been living based on the individual. Darwin's is competition, survival of the fittest. I go. Who's that? It's well, I want it to be me. I don't care about you. And all of a sudden we live in a world where everybody's looking out for their own benefit and not looking at the benefit of other people. And who cares about them? I care about me. That's Darwin. I go. That's anti-evolution, because evolution is community garden. Come together.

Speaker 1: 1:16:28

So we're in a state of undoing a system that's not sustainable with the idea of building a system that is sustainable. And that's why I am honored to be here with this young woman, for a good reason, because you in the audience are the participants of a future civilization of harmony and love and peace and health. All that comes at one same time, absolutely. Love is all the same, absolutely, and so that's why I'm so glad I'm here. That's why I'm so glad I'm here. I want you to know very simply. Conclusion at this moment, surf the web, watch the news, look out the window. The world's in a state of chaos. Don't be afraid. You know when you should be afraid. If there is no chaos, right, because if there's no chaos, everybody's going to continue doing what they're doing and then we're going to die out within 20 years or something, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:17:27

so I mean, it's actually a good sign that we're moving beyond the fear-based evolution that Darwin defined into this consciousness expansion, love-based evolution that's happening now.

Speaker 1: 1:17:44

Yeah, I just want to add this because I love it. Yeah, this is not a new evolution idea. Yeah, this is an evolution idea that preceded Darwin by 50 years. The first scientific theory of evolution did not come from Darwin. It came from a French guy, jean-baptiste de Lamarck Lamarck. Who's Lamarck? Well, I don't know who's Lamarck.

Speaker 1: 1:18:07

Well then, damn right I'm going to find out who Lamarck is. He wrote the first theory of evolution as a scientific principle. But what was the difference between him and Darwin? Darwin's emphasis is based on competition, you know, survival of the fittest. Lamarck's theory of evolution had a completely different understanding. It's survival of those that live in harmony with a system, he said look, animals and plants just don't form anywhere. A polar bear is not in Africa, it's in the Arctic. Roses are not in the Arctic, they're in the temperate zone. What's the point?

Speaker 1: 1:18:48

Organisms and environment are in a lockstep interaction. That's what was recognized in the first theory. So all of a sudden I say, oh so living in harmony with the environment is what engages survival. I go a hundred percent and we have to adjust. But we are living in a world that we say well, we don't like the environment, We'll make what we want. I go. You can't do that. If you understand the future of our evolution, it's in Lamarck evolution. It's called living in harmony with the environment. And epigenetics is what? How the environment is perceived, and adjust your genetics so you can live in that harmony. That's what epigenetics is all about.

Speaker 2: 1:19:35

I love it. I love it. This has been an amazing conversation. I'm so grateful that we were able to connect and make this happen.

Speaker 1: 1:19:44

Me too.

Speaker 2: 1:19:46

Yeah, where if people want to find out? I mean, most people know who you are and you're not hard to find, but if they want to connect with you online, where can they find?

Speaker 1: 1:19:55

you. I wish they would, because online I offer everything. Online. There are audio, video, written. All this information downloadable, okay. Written. All this information downloadable, okay. And how to change those programs If you don't like the ones you're living.

Speaker 2: 1:20:11

Yes.

Speaker 1: 1:20:12

That's available free online, bruceliptoncom.

Speaker 2: 1:20:18

Wonderful, wonderful. Well, bruce, thank you so much for joining us. This was great and I think our audience is going to get a lot out of this and help create that community that we were talking about of noble gases that are just going to go out and get excited with other noble gases.

Speaker 1: 1:20:38

That's what the whole idea is. That's why I'm so glad to be here. I like talking with you, but I love talking to this community because I know people in this community are thinking okay, what are we going to do because something's going on?

Speaker 2: 1:20:52

Right.

Speaker 1: 1:20:52

And I hope some of the words I said could help make a pathway for you to not survive but thrive into the future.

Speaker 2: 1:21:00

Absolutely. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1: 1:21:04

I appreciate it, thank you.