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Series 7 Episode 12 - The Best UK Sitcom of the last 30 Years - Winner
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Can longevity and generational appeal crown an unexpected champion in the world of sitcoms? Join us for the thrilling conclusion of series 7 as we reveal how Peep Show edged out heavyweights like Partridge, Phoenix Nights, and The Office to take the top spot. Andrew and Liam, dissect the victory and share our thoughts on what made Peep Show stand out, despite our initial expectations. From its decade-long run to the iconic clips that continue to flood social media, discover why this quirky sitcom has remained close to the hearts of comedy fans.
We also dive into our own journeys with these beloved shows, reminiscing about our initial rankings and the ultimate crowning moment. Listen in as we explore the passionate reactions from our listeners and revisit some of the most memorable sitcoms of the past 30 years. Whether you've been a Peep Show fanatic from the start or are just discovering it, this episode is a heartfelt celebration of the comedy that's kept us all laughing for decades. Tune in and see if you agree with the people’s choice!
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Speaker 2You've been running too long . Hello and welcome to episode 12 , the final episode of series 7 . This series was our World Cup of sitcoms the last 30 years and we now know the overall winner . I'm one of the hosts , I'm Liam . The other host is Andrew and he's with me , and we are going to discuss the crowning of Peep Show as winners .
Speaker 3Yeah , the cream of the crop . Uh , thanks to everyone who voted . We both thought we're gonna go partridges way , um , but I think , show one . I'm really surprised . I would never I don't know what odds you'd have got a beginning , or from john merrick at the beginning of the , uh , yeah , the beginning of the uh , before we did this , we tried to sort of do a , a preliminary ranking , didn didn't we ?
Speaker 2And I think you certainly had Pete's show higher than me . I think we both had it top 10 , but I think you had it top four and I was sort of 67 , I think . So it's not a complete shock , but yeah , I just didn't see it as winner . But , to be fair , the people have spoken and yeah , certainly , I don't know , are we saying worthy ?
Speaker 3winner , I think for longevity alone . I think , like Ben , who would do Blaise Paul , he said the reason he thought he won is because so many people have seen it run for like over a decade , I think , or bang on a decade , or something like that .
Speaker 2It probably could span a couple of generations of sort of comedy fans , didn't it ? Yeah , whereas , Partridge , if you were sort of I don't know , even sort of just six , seven years younger than us , you might have missed it .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah , completely , and it's very clippable as well . I think it's one of those things that you see quite a lot on Twitter . You know clips of like no turkey and all this sort of stuff that people will know even if they've not seen the show . Still , surprised at the beginning of this , I thought I did think the office would win .
Speaker 2I don't know why I think we both had the office talk and I think I think we probably both switched to partridge as the series went on . Is that fair to say ?
Speaker 3yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2As it went on , I thought partridge definitely you got really into phoenix nights well , didn't you when you started watching that ?
Speaker 3I've not seen Phoenix Knights for ages and it's fucking brilliant . I mean , we've got some comments coming up later where people were really disappointed that that went out . I thought the final would be Phoenix Knights versus Partridge , but this is where you've got to fucking take her out of the peep show . Beat Partridge , beat Phoenix Knights twice , beat the thick of it .
Speaker 1Do that twice and beat the thick of it I think the main risks are that you may be the owner of a vehicle rather than the driver . You may receive one of these notices and then , for some reason , you may fumble the notice , you may lose it before you send it , you may not fill it in correctly . Do that twice and you'll be banned from driving you know there's a reason , and it is good .
Speaker 3Do you know what I mean ? It's like it sounds like we're slagging it off . I love it . I've got all well , I've got first four on dvd . Then you can't buy dvds after a certain year , can you ? Because it's ? It's just weird . So I've got , you know , I love it , absolutely love it .
Speaker 2I just I'm just surprised it won yeah , I think in in sort of tribute I'm gonna have to go back through and watch it all again because I sort of phased out after series four and dipped in and out . So I think it's only fair to the peep show boys that I go back through and give it all another go . Yeah , completely Worth it .
Speaker 2I think we found in some of the clips . It is great . I mean I don't want to sort of slag anything off too much , but it's not like I don't know a Mrs Brown's Boys or a .
Speaker 3Oh no , nowhere near it's brilliant , no , no but that's what I mean .
Speaker 2It doesn't feel like we almost can't put the Maidley stamp on it . I'm quite happy to put the Maidley stamp on this World Cup . They won it fair and square .
Speaker 3Yeah , absolutely so . Today's show is basically going to be all your comments , because we got loads and we didn't want to read them out as the episodes were going on , because it just took too long . We're a bit concerned that this might just be a list of your quotes , but you know .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think in hindsight we should have done that , because I think we've just now just got a list . So I mean , if you've commented , I think we've picked most stuff out .
Speaker 3Yeah , pretty much everyone .
Speaker 2The things that are really enjoying this series , or how come you didn't put this in Like the sort of really short things we've not included .
Speaker 3There's some of them in there , which I think is worth a discussion , and we're going to try and do that . We've both got the same now , so gathered them up yesterday and thanks for everyone who's done it , because there's some really interesting stuff . And I'll start with Jordan , actually , because we'll start with the winner . He said he thinks I mean Peep Show's good , but is that the best we've got for the last 30 years ? Not sure , and this is what we've been talking about , isn't it really ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I mean according to the Living With Melee fanbase , it is Jordan yeah , yeah , I mean , yeah , I mean , it is yes it is yes , and Callum was saying when we talk about this .
Speaker 3I think we replied thinking miles off with the Superhands thoughts , which is where you said that he's a horrible character . He says Mark and Jez are ten times worse people than when you dig into it . But he thinks that's part of it . You're not supposed to be rooting for anyone , which is why I agree . I agree with the not responsible rooting for anyone . I think that's what one of the big things is about peep shell . There they are all pricks . You never feel sorry for them . You never sort of like , oh , you don't deserve that they're all yeah , absolutely super hands thing .
Speaker 3I think you've got a good argument against , aren't you ?
Speaker 2well , yeah , I mean , yeah , I mean it commits sexual assault . That was my mic drop within the thing and it's sort of this smug like , oh , good old super hands , like there's multiple sexual assaults in there which , yeah , I get it , he's a fictional character , I get it , but he just seems like sort of absolute bottom-of-the-barrel super hands , superhands . But yeah , as I say , I'm going to go through it again . Maybe I'll have a very different thought on the sexual predator .
Speaker 3He's a very funny character , Brilliant , brilliantly .
Speaker 2Funny yeah yeah , he can be funny and horrible . That's the point . He's a lot you know , I think he's written in such a way where he is funny , but if that's a real person , are there any worse people in any of the things that we did you we did , you wouldn't want to know anyone in Peepshaw .
Speaker 3I don't think Isn't .
Speaker 2Superman worse than the Mrs Brown's boys like main man .
Speaker 3No , no , you'd rather well woman . Whatever , he's playing a woman . Yeah anyway , you'd rather be friends with her . I think just go in ah , feck off or whatever she's like .
Speaker 2I've never watching it . It might be so good . Yeah , we probably should have reviewed it at some point .
Speaker 3I have watched a few , actually at Christmas at my nan's house and stuff and all families round . A couple of my uncles fucking love it . Yeah , it is what it is , isn't it ?
Speaker 2Anyway , carry on , go on , liam , you've got a couple Next comment from Joel Didn't agree about Jez and Dobby's storyline being too fast . I think that's something you said . He always acted on impulse and he said he often tells women he loves them straight away . So it was a bit of a slow burner . If anything , I agree with you .
Speaker 3I think that's a fair comment . I think him becoming bisexual and getting a boyfriend did go too quick because it happened in the space of an episode . He's right about that . He probably never actually did love Dobby , even though he was saying it , because he just used to fall in love with anyone . I will happily take that .
Speaker 2We stand correct to Joel Cappy . So because , living With Me , the corruption led to the exclusion of Thick of it , I'm forced to watch peep show properly for the first time . Wants to see what all the fuss is about . Better , be good you epl level corrupt cunt . Yeah , first time I'm reading this . Um , yeah , I missed this , so thanks . Game on is a massively underrated show . I frequently say it's shit out . Yeah , I mean , there's a lot of good stuff in there . To be fair , we are EPL level corrupt cunts and Game On is massively underrated . Yeah , I completely agree with that , god really God .
Speaker 3That was such a tough group . It got in between us .
Speaker 2The Office and League of Gentlemen in that group Game On was one of those things that I think it was an awkward time and I think it I don't know , it just never felt like it got any attention really . I don't think I've seen a great , but if you didn't know about it , you never would almost yeah , I've seen every episode with the second .
Speaker 3Is it Matthew , matthew in it ? Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , I think I've seen all those ones , but I don't think I've ever seen the first one .
Speaker 2Uh , like the sorry , the first matthew actually did it well like , but both worked . Despite the fact they were clearly very different , it worked with both . So yeah , definitely , if you ever get chance .
Speaker 3I don't know , actually it might be really dated , I'm not sure , but certainly at the time I thought it was absolutely fantastic yeah , ben said he loves the thick of it Don't carry on from what Capu was saying but he thinks your early feelings are justified . He says maybe he's just a sap , but in the latest series he thought he got a bit too aggressive and too off-putting . So series one with Hugh and Glenn is outstanding though , as are the two specials , and he says he don't believe we mentioned it , which we didn't , but they hired a swearing consultant for the show . How could be a job for you , swearing consultant ? I don't know , I'm not that creative with it . I'll just add in a couple of fuckings every now and then , like fucking hell , fuck sake , fucking no more . I dropped something . Went to Portugal last week , went to a festival , walked in my shoelace , come undone , but the relaxer were not at top of it . Bit took me about . Well , I had to get eggy to do it .
Speaker 2If I'm gonna and I've said a lot of fucks then do you remember when we went to apologies for mentioning this before , was it tenerife or was it gran canaria ? But we had I had some spare padlocks , so I padlocked your case up oh , yeah , you thought your mum had done it and not so we're throwing your case out of the room .
Speaker 3Yeah , we're absolutely furious yeah I thought that my mum had put a padlock . This was about 20 years ago , it must have been , and I thought my mum had put a padlock on my case to keep it safe , but it was yours . And how the fuck am I supposed to get in here booting ?
Speaker 2it around very good .
Speaker 3On that , I was the key master the key master , Nav Deep , said he'd pick the thick of it over Peep Show . So thick of it . We were like , I mean , it's another one . You've not really seen that much , isn't it to be fair ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I think , to be fair , it's probably the same with a lot of these sort of sitcoms . If you've not seen them . I think the list that we decided on the final list , I think the list that we decided on the final list , they're all pretty good , I think , even if you kind of get right the way down the bottom of the list , there was , I mean , coupling that a lot of people had not seen . But actually , yeah , really good . I think if you put it on , it's funny . I think it really was a tough list and , yeah , the Thick of it was one of the ones that probably makes me want to watch more of it . I have watched a bit , but I've not really gone through and watched it all yet . Yeah , yeah . So , Neil , we've got a comment from Neil Want to know something about David Mitchell . He's got lifeless eyes , black eyes like doll's eyes .
Speaker 1I said he's got the eyes of a serial killer , didn't I yeah ?
Speaker 2Peep show was good initially but went on way too long and stopped being as funny . Think of it . Kept getting better and you went to end I mean certainly on his peep show coming .
Speaker 2That's kind of where I was I think yeah it was very good initially , but went on too long and stopped being as funny . Yeah , that's that's my problem with it , if I'm honest , and that's that's why I said to you like I just think partridge stayed at the higher level and even now I just think everything partridge related has been at a high level . I personally think peep show dipped , but we were only reviewing the sitcoms . We weren't reviewing their other material . Were we ?
Speaker 3no , no , I think that's fair enough , but I think , yeah , like I say with the peep show thing , it's the longevity where he's got . He's the good and the bad about it , isn't it to be fair ?
Speaker 2yep , the good and the bad . Um ben . I don't know if this is the same ben , because you've just put yeah , it is . Yeah , liam , undermining democracy right off the bat . Vote for the one you don't want to get through . And uh , roy has clearly never listened to train announcements .
Speaker 3Vestibule area so yeah , we were trying to define what vestibule was , weren't we ? Yeah , it's a fat laugh from sheffield said , really intrigued to . So uh , what roy thought they were saying if he wasn't hearing the word vegetable ? I don't know , actually I don't know . What do you know ? Do you ever do this where you think of some word , someone will say a word for you . It's like a lot of poetry . Don't know that word , carry on , yeah . Yeah , that's what I would do . Anything just like didn't know yeah , just never .
Speaker 2Never queried it , just a word , that didn't make sense . But you were quite happy to carry on .
Speaker 3I'm happy to leave it whatever , I do it quite a lot . It's like I mean , like I said , we were abroad last week and someone will talk to you in Portuguese and you just go yeah , yeah , yeah , I'm happy with that , as long as they're happy , and I say what you want . If I don't understand it , not bothered .
Speaker 2Yeah , I reckon I can tell from tone and stuff , like I can pick up bits of what he was saying .
Speaker 3I knew that the oh yeah , here we go .
Speaker 2I knew the Spanish chap was pretending not to understand me .
Speaker 3We're talking about this . We're talking about this to our mutual friend , tom , and he says bloody hell about the story . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2I can , I can . You know , I don't need to understand the words , I can pick up on the tone . I think is what I'm saying Unbelievable , simon says he knows I'm a grumpy .
Speaker 3He said he knows he's a grumpy git , but can we have a third option for none of the above ? That was for the final . He says dinner probably , which is an interesting one . And he said followed by Cuckoo , ideal League of Gentlemen , him and her and Phoenix Knights . Cuckoo was in our initial list , but he didn't get any votes , so we took it out . I think that's right , isn't it ? Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2Ideal . Some news , by the way , there for Simon as well , because there actually was a third option where you just didn't have to vote . If you don't , you didn't want to vote for one , don't , don't I ?
Speaker 3don't know if you thought there was an obligation to vote and we genuinely appreciate the vote . People vote , people died , didn't they ? For your right to vote . It's probably just like thinking come on , you've got to do something .
Speaker 2You must put a poll on here that says I do not want to vote .
Speaker 3I want to vote for I do not want to vote . Yeah , we should put next time . If we do something like this , you'll say none of the above . You could have put an X through it , couldn't ? You Sent us that as a picture , but , yeah , so ideal that one we toyed with , but it didn't make our final cut . League of Gentlemen did make it . Obviously got knocked out , him and her I don't think I've seen .
Speaker 2It's good actually . Yeah , I've seen some of that it's good and seen some of that it's good and obviously phoenix night .
Speaker 3So yeah , I don't even think that was on the preliminary list and it wasn't . I've never .
Speaker 2I've never seen it to be fair , but yeah it's the guy who's in , uh , gavin and stacy is it . Is it , budgie , um ? The guy who's kind of his ears stick out a bit ?
Speaker 3oh , yeah , yeah , oh , yeah , yeah , yeah . Yeah , I've seen him in job lot as well , to be fair , yeah it's good .
Speaker 2Yeah , we probably should have considered that .
Speaker 3So , yeah , fair point he's got a point on his side . When you say he's , the whole thing's been thrown into disarray now um , yeah , not brian kid's mate .
Speaker 2What sort of middle class cretin for a peep show over phoenix knights yeah , class wars , class wars .
Speaker 3We're going to the cultural world , we have a mate , don't we ?
Speaker 2We won't name him who won't watch Phoenix Knights because he thinks it's . What does he say ? Working class scum comedy , is it ?
Speaker 3Yeah , and he don't like Royal Family and he don't like what's the other one that he don't like ? There's something else . They don't like it , something else . It's Fools and Horses . Yeah , yeah , yeah , scum , working class scum , and yeah , so yeah .
Speaker 2I think there is a point in there , though that I'm not accusing people of being middle class cretins , but I do think like there's a there's a certain perception of Phoenix Knights , of it being very working class . I don't know whether it's hard to know , because we're both I don't know . I don't even know what defines true working class , but I mean , we both kind of live in the north and have been in sort of working men's clubs like that , so I think we're familiar with it . But I don't know what you'd think of that if you were true sort of middle class , living in a nice I don't know stockbroker belt with Mike Parry , I don't know . I don't know what you'd think of Phoenix Knights . Would you think it's a spoo rather than there are people like this ?
Speaker 3Yeah , you'd probably just think this is a bit like I think it's like Marty Boosh , but it's a real light .
Speaker 2Do you know what I mean , like dream sequences and stuff ? Yeah , and Tom , I feel like I must be missing something when it comes to Phoenix Knights . So yeah , again , that's a similar point to what we just made , isn't it that people clearly just don't get it ? I suppose I can see that , I suppose , but do you think it's one of them ? If you just caught a couple of minutes of you kind of wouldn't quite get it , do you think you'd have to invest in it ?
Speaker 3I don't know , I don't know , I don't know . I've got it straight . Wait a minute . Matt's coming here . He says he loves Peep Show and he automatically assumed that that would get his vote . But in terms of the clips we played the Peep Show , ones were funny but he was literally belly laughing on his own to the Phoenix Knights one . So he's torn and this is why I've enjoyed doing it . I would have said Peep's show is better than Phoenix Nice , I think on that list we did , I put it above . But , like Matt , once we got into it and we started watching him and sort of analysing him a bit more , I think Phoenix Nice is so , so well written for what it is like for a 22-minute show .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , yeah . It's brilliant Laughs per minute . It's got to be right up there , but I think we we kind of tried not to do this , but I do wonder if if we did sway any of the voters with the episodes we chose , because we we wanted it to be about the series , not the episodes , but we did one of the rounds . Is it the semi-final ? Was it quarter final , where we picked ?
Speaker 3up quarter final where we picked out an episode . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2So I mean , if anyone did vote based on episode v episode . Yeah , it was kind of more about series v series , but any confusion caused on our part we sincerely apologise , sincerely apologise .
Speaker 3Max says Phoenix Knights Series 3 was planned but Spiking Fitzmaurice fell out with Kay after he failed to acknowledge him when winning a comedy award because obviously three of them wrote it , which we mentioned , didn't we ?
Speaker 2Kay and Rip Ryan and .
Speaker 3Max and Paddy were McGuinness because the others wouldn't work with them , because we were talking about this , and they obviously got back together for the stage show , didn't they ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know if at the time it was one of the things that was overplayed or if it was kind of that much of a fallout that they just refused because you would imagine there was quite a lot of money in it for him . Did they really sort of think , oh , because he didn't call it our names , we're not doing it again .
Speaker 3I don't know . Surely they'd have known after the first series .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah . I don't know . Obviously that's kind of as it's portrayed and that's something we mentioned too . Yeah , I don't know . And again , do you think is that the reason why they did max and paddy , or is that just he wanted to do something with his mate ? I don't know , I'm not sure yeah , I don't know .
Speaker 3I mean , like I said , they're all right now . To be fair , I'd like him to do another series .
Speaker 2I still think it could work oh , yeah , you could pick it up at any time . Yeah , um , and I think there's that many characters in it even if a couple of them didn't want to , didn't want to be there , and you had to write them out you'd only need some of the key characters to make it work again . We've got Chipman A , but is that not Chimpman A ?
Speaker 3I thought it was Chipman A . That's what I've written , that's what I've got down . Chipman A , a massive apology if you are a chimp .
Speaker 2Chimp or Chipman A said I wonder whether Reeves and Mortimer's the Club series of sketches predates Phoenix Nights . That was incredible , by the way . Also the AV Club , the AV Club .
Speaker 3It's a podcast , I think .
Speaker 2The AV Club did an episode review of the Office raised an interesting debate whether Neil was a villain of Series 2 . I remember this comment . Yeah , I always thought he was a competent manager , but they put some strong counter-arguments .
Speaker 3Yeah , so we're going to bring this up . Neil was the villain of Series 2 .
Speaker 2I don't think he was yeah , was he Actually ? To be fair , he kind of backed up his comment as well , didn't he ? Because I just said , oh no , I think he's just a competent manager , but what he was talking about there presumably this is some of the points they raised on the AV club . It's the moments he picks , moments where the cameras are on , to kind of give Neil his dress , to give David his dressing down .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , yeah yeah .
Speaker 2It was an argument that the character is is sort of very deliberately giving him , putting him in his place on TV , rather than doing it away from the cameras In the Christmas specials is a , is a , is a complete prick pretty much .
Speaker 3Now he just completely sort of I mean I suppose , but then Brent's been a twat to him all the way through .
Speaker 2Yeah , again I'm not sure I agree , because when he shakes Finch's hand and then just sort of blanks him and yeah , I don't know , we'd have to look into that a bit more . I'm not sure . Imagine if the scenes we've missed were like Neil's sort of , I don't know , like he's .
Speaker 3Got him against the wall .
Speaker 2He's back and stuff .
Speaker 3We're right about that . Yeah , he's a side . We've completely missed the deleted scenes and all that .
Speaker 2When we go into that first chat , it just headbutts him in back of the head and just nobody notices it , it's all this facking . We'd have to , we'd have to look into it more . Initially I thought , nah , no way was he the villain .
Speaker 3But yeah , from the couple of points he's spot on he's spot on about Reeves and Mortimer , by the way the club sketches . That is absolutely fucking brilliant . If you've not seen that , it's on YouTube the whole of them putting Reeves and Mortimer the club .
Speaker 2So good Does that pre-date Phoenix Nights ?
Speaker 3Yeah , it does pre date yeah , yeah , yeah , Because I had that on . I've sure read that on DVD Was that a series in itself , or was that just part of the ?
Speaker 2Morton War .
Speaker 3It was part of the sort of sketch every week .
Speaker 2the club Les Dennis is in it actually because he goes , oh Les mouth , like Marlon Brando yeah yeah , well , he's got like a tash and stuff .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah , I think I'm sure there's a line in it where Bob Mortimer's character sees Les Dennis and goes oh my god , is Mick a hackanen .
Speaker 1Yeah , there is yeah .
Speaker 3He goes easy mistake , mick .
Speaker 2Yeah , brilliant . I presume this is Major .
Speaker 3Charles .
Speaker 2Major Alan Partridge has to win the semi versus the office . The people who quote it incessantly are so much better than the people who quote the office incessantly . You agree ? I think we do both , don't we ?
Speaker 3Well . I'll tell you what following on from that , berlin Blade actually said not to that comment . He was a bit disappointed that we said Travelling Blade as an office quote for every situation and not him . But fair enough . If people ask him his top three , by the way , he'd say thick of it , league of Gentlemen dark place .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , he's very good . I agree , we could have interchanged Berlin , blade and Travelling . We should probably try and orchestrate some kind of office off Office off . Yeah , I'd like to do that .
Speaker 3Office Off . Yeah , I'd like to do that . Yeah , the first one . I think you get I don't know five seconds to come back with an Office quote when you're talking in a conversation . I think I know my .
Speaker 2Office . But do you remember when there was some conversation like it was probably a couple of years ago this and those two got involved and they just blew me away .
Speaker 3I just had to . You know , we'll get a Patreon started . I think everyone will be here lining up for that . Yeah , office off . And it's yeah , we'll start with them too . We could do groups , group stages . Look at it like we've done this , like people doing office off . You've got five seconds to come back with an office quote .
Speaker 2We already know they're too far don't we ?
Speaker 3That's true . That's true , but sometimes there might be a shot . Berlin Blade , he got laid by the way . I don't know if you saw that we should probably mention it , because after last time , didn't we ? Yeah , he put a tweet out saying the king is back , Congratulations . We'll not wish you any luck because after last time , tray the Blade said he remembers , uh , not putting on Alan Portridge when he was younger on the Sky Planner because he thought he were Alan Titchmarsh and he can't be asked with gardening brilliant .
Speaker 2Uh yeah , said Ken . One of life's little wins for me is having a brother called Dan . Uh , db replied is that dead back ?
Speaker 3no , it's not , it's a guy DB no who's DB ?
Speaker 2we don't know no , no , no , it's a guy called DB oh right , okay , one of life's little losses for me is being called Dan . I wonder if that was his brother , then that'd make sense , wouldn't it ?
Speaker 3no , that'd be a good little little comeback , obviously , that .
Speaker 2Dan Sad Ken . And what could he be ? Downbeat , barry , downbeat , I don't know why they'd be like because they're brothers , they'd both be sort of like sad names . I don't know .
Speaker 3I don't think he's actually called Sad .
Speaker 2Ken , yeah , probably not thinking about it , your son's Sad Ken .
Speaker 3Remember when Daniel Sturridge played for England you were a bit of a hog of Ernie Sturridge , you for england , you were a bit of a hogger where any story do you remember ?
Speaker 2they like never used to pass .
Speaker 3Uh I , I don't associate that with him now well , you're like in that euros like crap , euros in , uh , when we lost twice I don't remember him being like absolute elite , world class , but I didn't want to associate him as a hogger he was like trying to .
Speaker 3He seemed to gold on top ball for ages and someone put that clip up saying rest of england players whenever he gets bald , done , done for ages . And someone put that clip up saying rest of England players whenever he gets bald . Dan , dan , dan . I'm laughing my head off . We'll get to that at the end , in fact . Carry on .
Speaker 2Okay , mr Glacier Hernandez sent us a message as well . Has any actor had three roles within five years that are as iconic as Han Solo , indiana Jones and Rick Deckard ? And then he put the picture of Neil Fitzmaurice , obviously playing Ray Vaughan , jeff from Peep Show and the office guy who does his . Go on it's .
Speaker 3This has been a pose upon me . This has been a pose upon me .
Speaker 2What's that ? As well , though it says what's a fairy ? Anyway , I can't remember the bit .
Speaker 3This is why Billy .
Speaker 2Bladed travelling would blow me away , wouldn't ?
Speaker 3it . Yeah , exactly , you're out already . Just from this you don't get through preliminary rounds .
Speaker 2He also said I think Phoenix Knight has several one-off characters that trump anything from the office Clinton , Baptiste , anyone . Yeah , that's brilliant he made a clear up . Yeah , Clinton Baptiste . Do you know he sometimes goes on Talk Sport with Alan Brazil and McCoy .
Speaker 3Yeah , I've not seen him on it , but I've seen like he comes up on my recommendations sometimes on YouTube and stuff . Yeah , yeah , of course . Yeah , obviously Keith Lard's on there as well . Who's that though ?
Speaker 2Neil Fitzmaurice . He was a key player in sort of three of the final well , not a key player in the office , it's not fair to say but he's a part of a key part of two and involved with one of the four four semifinalists .
Speaker 3If you want a successful podcast , what you're saying is get Fitzmorris on board and it's a surefire hit , isn't it ?
Speaker 2Yeah , he's kind of crossed that because I see sort of I don't know It'd be . It'd be a struggle to find any other links between them . Do you think , can you think of any , any actors or characters who've appeared in more than one ? And yet he's done three out of the last four .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah , I'm trying to think there must be . I mean Rishis . I know Rishis were in Carshare , weren't they ? They were in Space and they were in , but yeah , that's yeah , unbelievable .
Speaker 2I mean probably would have to give him like a sort of golden .
Speaker 3GP actually responded to that , saying it opens up for best lead character , best supporting actor , best cameo performance and stuff . He said it's a major travesty that Phoenix Knights didn't make the final pun very much intended . And he also sent sent us an article on threads , jp . So thanks for that , because anything to do with threads , I'm all over it and I read that brilliant but , yeah , I mean , like you say , what would you say , just off the top of his head , best lead character of any of them ?
Speaker 2I mean , I don't think you can go Peep Show despite the fact they won , because it's split across Jeremy and Mark .
Speaker 3I think it's got to be Partridge or it's Potter or Partridge , isn't it ? Yeah , I think so yeah .
Speaker 2I'll go Partridge because he's carried . Partridge has got to final , yeah .
Speaker 3Best supporting character .
Speaker 2That's a good question that I'm thinking . I'm thinking Gareth or Tim .
Speaker 3Might have got Michael Johnson .
Speaker 2No , I think I mean as much as I said , I dislike the man , but in terms of kind of Superhands , yeah , Superhands in terms of comic performance could get a shout in there .
Speaker 3I think Superhands is a great show and best cameo , we'd have to say .
Speaker 2Matthew Olsen , stephen Merchant's dad , where he just stares at the camera . That is good to be fair .
Speaker 3Stephen Merchant on fucking Dark Place is brilliant as well . He's only been here for about 5 seconds . He's a god damn good chicken . He's a brilliant chicken . God damn son of a bitch .
Speaker 2I mean we'd have to , because we made a specific point out of it . It would have to be the IT guy , wouldn't it ?
Speaker 3yeah , it has to be . Whistlesnapper said he's currently re-watching Gavin and Stacey after listening to the pod and it's so much better than he ever gave it credit for .
Speaker 2Can I just shock you ? I've watched some Gavin and Stacey since we did it and yeah , it's good .
Speaker 3We've got some other quotes coming down later if you want to hold on to that thought .
Speaker 2He's right , though it's better than I gave it credit to as well . I agree with the Whistle Snapper Webding exclusive audio research delivery mainly theme at various speeds . So he reckons at 1.2 speed it sounds like the Smiths lost B-side , at 1.5 , it's a punk band doing acoustic and at 1.8 , it's George Formey warm-up exercise and at times two it's unlistenable . And yeah , many thanks . Point A is George Forney warm-up exercise and at times two it's unlistenable .
Speaker 3Many thanks If you want to try that for audio fans , then yeah , I've not tried it myself yet , but I'm going to look into that .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't doubt him . I'm sure he's , as he says , exclusive audio research . So he's done the research , so you don't have to . On one-off characters , webbo said as well uh , the simpsons has shit loads of classics off the top of my head .
Speaker 3Homers , pa and obviously the monorail guy are superb oh , but on the simpsons , you know , what always stands out is you're like , I can't remember his name now , is it marty ? Something who fancies marge ? And right at the end of the episode , and he's got a camera . He's a loser , marge . Dump him . I've traveled the world and the seven seas . I am watching you . Got a camera . He's a loser , marge . Dump him . I've travelled the world and the seven seas . I am watching you through a camera .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3I just I love how it don't rhyme . I am watching you through a camera .
Speaker 2I've seen loads of Simpsons . I can't quite place it we talked about it at work actually the other day how many funny episodes there are . Yeah , he's right , there's loads and loads of one-off characters . I mean , obviously , the fact that there's a celebrity voice in a character each week means it's done in such a way that there will be lots of cameos . I suppose Jackson Jackson's in it , isn't he ?
Speaker 3Sorry , miss Jackson . That's a good song , that . Lisa , it's your birthday . Ding ding , ding . Yeah , it's your birthday , yeah .
Speaker 2It doesn't have that tune , but yeah , you're right , it is a good song . Lisa , it's your birthday , happy birthday Lisa . Yeah , yeah , that is good that Webding also said you never watched Gavin and Stacey and now feels delayed . Shame for cracking the . Where's the book Pete that Nessa said that was a terrible watch actually , where's the book Pete ?
Speaker 1that Nessa said , that was a terrible watch actually .
Speaker 3Oh , scouse , they're more like Fitzmorris . Yeah , where's the ?
Speaker 2book , pete . It's not the fact that people thought it was stolen , it's the fact that people thought I've stolen it from Corden .
Speaker 3So we often accuse people of stealing his jokes , don't we Webding ?
Speaker 2so this is maybe people are stealing , about people stealing his material . I think he's like Bob Munkhouse , isn't he ? Who's kind of got an encyclopedic list of gags and he's kind of keeping his eye out for anyone else using him .
Speaker 3Yeah , very well , so was Nick . Then didn't they Not ? Webber Bob Munkhouse has a joke book written , don't they ? Do you remember that Great big scandal ?
Speaker 2Yeah , he put up a big reward or something , didn't he , to get him back .
Speaker 3Yeah , I think he got him back in the end . Yeah , I mean Bob Monkhouse brilliant , we're massive fan , aren't we Monkhouse ? Yeah , we might have to . Maybe we found out his Nick Tully jokes have webbed in now or so .
Speaker 2Yeah , was that Firefights of Jokes ? Was that initially webbed in material ? We don't know ? And all the fun of the theme park said Gavin and Stacey's absolute shite with an insufferable cast . I mean , he or her is entitled to their opinion but you can't say Brydon is insufferable . I think , corden , you know you could say insufferable yeah the only one I'd say is Brydon , or maybe Pam as well . He actually plays Pam . It'd be hard to say , or actually Mick as well .
Speaker 1Play Larry Lough .
Speaker 2Yeah , Mick and Pam and Rob Brydon Bryn .
Speaker 3And Julia Peters . What's her name ? Julia ?
Speaker 1Oh , Julia .
Speaker 3Davis , julia Davis , that's it , yeah , yeah . So I think this is based mainly at probably Corden and Holness , mainly Corden . I'd say Holness , mainly Corden . I'd say Holness , bob Holness . It's Matthew Holness . No , what's his name ? I'm fucking up here . What's his name ? Matthew Horne , isn't it Horne ? That's it , matthew Horne , yeah .
Speaker 1Bob .
Speaker 3Holness Sufferable . Yeah , Big number five from Four Blades in a Pub . Beautiful podcast , he says baffles him how Gavin and Stacey is even on the list . He says his missus loves her but he's honestly never seen her laugh once when she's watched it . Because he honestly thinks a documentary on 9-11 will contain all of our moments .
Speaker 2To be fair , though , that is something that we , when we were trying to give ourselves loose parameters on how we would factor in . Laughs out loud is an absolute kind of must . If one of its biggest fans is watching it and laughing , it's not a great sign , is it ?
Speaker 39-11 , I did see something funny on . Well , two things are so funny on 9-11 .
Speaker 2It's a big cold break , this podcast .
Speaker 3Someone once wore a pair of jeans of the buildings getting demolished and they called them the twin trousers , which was quite and also they were a documentary , like a reconstruction of what happened and the last plane where they got older they were going to go into a pentagon , I think , and it just ended up crashing as they like went to wrestle the hijackers . The guy at the back goes I don't know if he said this in real life . He goes Pentagon , I think , and it just ended up crashing as they like went to wrestle the hijackers . The guy at the back goes I don't know if he said this in real life he goes right , let's roll , and I use that all the time . I always say let's roll , like if we do it , I don't know , would you say that it's not a fucking action film , let's roll .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know . I don't know . I think that was around before that . By the way , I don't think if you say it , you got it necessarily .
Speaker 3I don't know . I can imagine what's his name fucking army saying it or fucking sliced alone like in an action film and stuff . But David said he loves James Corden man of the people well , yeah , I mean when it first came out .
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , I don't it first came out . Oh yeah , it was really like .
Speaker 2I don't think anybody had any issues with him and I know I saw these things about . You know Unconfirmed people have got stories to tell about him and stuff like that , if you want to see .
Speaker 3He didn't ask me anything on Reddit and you'll be able to still see it . It's fucking . Some of the stories about him are horrendous . What ? And he discusses them ? No , he just stopped responding . He said ask me anything . I think he responded to like two of them .
Speaker 2And then everyone was just saying why were you such a prick when I saw you're in this restaurant and stuff ? Ask me anything except about my bad attitude ? No we don't know .
Speaker 3He's got a bad attitude . There's no point in us critiquing James Corden when Lemmy does it so well . If you only put Lemmy in YouTube and James Corden , he could tell he wants to . He's trying not to have a go at him because he feels , but he can't not . You know what I mean ? Because he's just so fake .
Speaker 2He eased up on him , actually on the last one .
Speaker 3I saw yeah .
Speaker 2But it's still his expressions when he's doing something . I mean , there's that one where he's sort of dancing outside , a car isn't there and he starts thrusting Lemmy's expression . There is fantastic .
Speaker 3The worst bit I've seen him do is when he's dancing with John Travolta showing him how to dance and stuff . It's not funny . They just do right , come on then now . Now you do the twist and he's going ah , it's so fake , it's horrible .
Speaker 2Awful , awful , is it my comment now ?
Speaker 3Is it yours ? Yeah , it's yours . We have Trey .
Speaker 2So Trey the Blade , I know it's mainstream and all that , but Gavin and Stacey still makes me roll about laughing . Right amount of daft in it and Rob Brydon absolutely kills it . He can do alt , that man . Yeah , rob Brydon , you put Bryson in here , I put Rob Bryson maybe you put Bryson .
Speaker 3I copied it .
Speaker 2Maybe he's got . Maybe you mean someone else . We've not noticed , don't ?
Speaker 3worry if we've not seen any of these . That's the big reveal of this . Actually , we've not seen any of them .
Speaker 1Rob .
Speaker 2Bryson is great also and he's talking about IT crowd here . My dad has so many of these football conversations . His favourite two are high crosses don't work , meaning we don't score from headers anymore , but why bother ? And the other is general moaning about passing it out from the back . I don't get it . Just boy , you're too . Boy , you're too .
Speaker 3Yeah , I think this was on the IT crowd . The famous thing about Arsenal is they always try and walk it in .
Speaker 2Did I tell you when I heard I think that's kind of been done to death now we might mention this actually in the episode . Are there any you can think of now that you'd kind of give to someone as somebody's got ? Remember what did they call it on Channel 4 , where you just have to pretend to be something ?
Speaker 3Oh yeah , I know what you mean . Yeah , oh yeah , I know what you mean Faking it , faking it .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think now you could say If you've got somebody now who's going to go to a match , can you think of any things that you'd tell them to say ?
Speaker 3I think one of them you could say is oh , everyone wants to play like Pep these days .
Speaker 1You know what I mean Something like that , something like that .
Speaker 2A bit like the passing out . I'd say , and but I say this like I think I say this insightfully , I don't , but I think you could get away with it is when your team's defending to say push out , push them out , you're too deep push out , that's a good one .
Speaker 3Yeah , push out , but imagine saying it at wrong time , when you're they're on a break . Push out , uh , I don't know what else . A lot what you could do . What getting up like the like a newer one , like Like I say , the thing about Arsenal is they always try and walk it in . Is there anyone like ? You could say like oh , chelsea , they're a joke club . They just they don't move their appointee .
Speaker 2I don't know .
Speaker 3Do you know what I mean ?
Speaker 2I think that's become one now . Isn't it about City , where you say with possession , don't they ? Yeah , oh , I've got one .
Speaker 3I'll tell you what We'll never win anything while Southgate's in charge . That's right mate . Because you could say that to fucking anybody who doesn't know anything about football and they'd probably say yeah , that's true , mate , it's a very easy one to do Buy your pint , wouldn't they yeah ? I think yeah . I really want to get involved just go up to someone and say England are never going to win anything more than they've got Southgate in charge .
Speaker 2That would be the first thing you'd say , I reckon and then when they sort of like nod and smile , just say safety gate , I call them . Yeah , yeah , safety gate , you're in the club . I think you told me safety gate , but I like that yeah yeah , then you because yeah , even though he got into the final two years ago .
Speaker 2Everybody hates him TraderBlade also said so harsh on early doors to come up against Father Ted . Two of my absolute favourites Late to early doors . Hype Must have watched it through 10 times now . Like you guys said , maybe it's because we know them . We know people like them . Yeah , I mean , that was one . I must admit I never expected it to get far , but that was one of them dark horses for me that I just thought I wonder how well it'd do , because most people we spoke to actually liked it . But yeah , I don't know if that's just kind of our little circle of . I just don't think anyone's seen it enough .
Speaker 3I think it's brilliant , brilliant early doors . I think Travelling watched them all after listening to the pod . He loves it as well . Yeah , absolutely fantastic .
Speaker 2We went years ago down to St Ives and Jodie brought the DVD down . Yeah , I remember , like I don't know , one particular night , like should we go out ? Should we nip down and have a few beers ? Probably we were all just staying and watching early doors , I think , I don't know they were , yeah , really , really underrated . That one , definitely , gary . Comment from Gary classic recurring football chat shouting time time when a player has a bit of it , a bit of time to think what to do , or even , clearly , when they haven't .
Speaker 3Yeah , I've seen people shout that the guy next to me and I say it a lot , I think it's when I'm panicking a bit at match , Like I said it twice last season or season before , and both times he turned around because he didn't have any time . I don't know this guy and he said , yeah , so they'll get the ball and I'll say time . And what I'm trying to say , I think , is I don , I'm panicking , so it's like time , it's like you didn't have any time at all you actually mean the opposite , don't you ?
Speaker 3You mean like my heart , yeah , yeah , yeah , get rid . I want to avoid it as Trey says Richard , we're both too young to get some of the jokes he said the title of the Father Ted episode was a play on the song Chirpy Chirpy , cheep Che , and Oliver's a snooker player from Bolton , which I didn't know . Tony and Oliver were from Bolton , which makes more sense with the Phoenix Knights . Yeah .
Speaker 2I didn't know that . No , but I mean Chirpy , chirpy , cheep , cheep . I did know . I remember the song from when I was little Woke up this morning and my mama was gone . But yeah , my point there was that they forced in Chir burpy cheap sheep . Yeah , the burpy bit was the bit I had the issue with because they did it just for one gag where the sheep just got wind of things . Listen , I'm not criticising the standard of the comedy . I just thought the burpy bit felt forced for me .
Speaker 3Yeah , fair play your draw system . Ygg draw system . Ygg draw , ygg draw . Anyway , it's a great episode of Father Ted , obviously with the chirpy , chirpy , chirpy one . I haven't listened to the podcast yet , but he absolutely loves the fucking owl from Lenehan Fucking owl so good that it's brilliant . Remember the first time I saw that I was absolutely laughing my head off . I rewound it and stuff . Yeah , laughing my head off , like I rewound it and stuff yeah , yeah , I forget it on VHS like fucking hell .
Speaker 2Jake , been wanting to watch Toast of London for a few years and never got round to it . Your first round gave me the kick to have a watch and I binged it over the last week , been crying at some bits , so good . Yeah , it's another massively underrated maybe it's not , actually , I don't know . It's hard , I don't quite know where it sits in sort of nearly beat Gavin and Stacey .
Speaker 3I think it was 51 49 to get through , bearing in mind Gavin Stacey's miles bigger but yeah , I think it's one of them for me .
Speaker 2Toaster London , where it's it's not always sort of on the mark . I think he's obviously clearly very funny , but it's not always enough just to pronounce something in a funny way , like it . There are certain bits where I've I don't know . I don't know , I do like Toast to London but I think the bits that are funny , are real unbelievably funny bits . But it doesn't all hit for me . But that's comedy Comment from Matt absolutely crying at the toast scene , one of my favourite ever comedies . I watch it in hysterics and my wife looks at me like I'm an alien . Start with the Clem Fandango one , then Clem Fandango , yeah , which is still . That will never not be funny .
Speaker 3No that's one of my favourite ever sitcom scenes . If we ever do our top five sitcom scenes or something that is definitely going to be in mine . I think yeah , clem , thank you . I remember you phoning me up saying , have you watched Toast ? And I said no , I haven't . Actually I think we just used to dip in and out of it Because you have to watch this opening scene . And yeah , I said to Brendan , I made him as well , so you've got to watch this . Brilliant , yeah , fantastic . Neil said talk about extras . What he never knew about Keith Chegwin until he died is he actually started off as a serious actor and one of his first roles was in Roman Polanski's Beth . Yeah , he says he was even better in Life's Too Short special than he was in extras .
Speaker 2I didn't know that about Cheggers , did you ? No , I can believe it . Man of many talents . Yeah , Don't know . It's kind of still sad about the fact we've got no more Keith Chegwin .
Speaker 3I watched a guy do a review on Big Breakfast which he said we might do one series , and he was on that and he was brilliant on that . Keith Chegwin , he's like Johnny Vaughan . I don't want to ruin what I might say . If we do a Big Breakfast episode , I can't believe Johnny Vaughan's not on cocaine 24-7 . He's so active he's flapping his cards on his leg generically .
Speaker 2He used to hit the cards with his fingers a lot as well , didn't he ?
Speaker 3Yeah , he can't stop moving when he's doing stuff . There's loads of episodes of Big Brother online , which is Big Brother , sorry , big Breakfast online , which I don't know . I've flicked through them . So weird . Such a weird breakfast show , but really good at the time . De breakfast show , but really good at the time . For fair . Uh , de gaulle said he always struggled with the royal family , said he's objectively good but he felt like he's intruded on people he actually knew . He said similar with the thick of it , but those people were honest and deserve to be laughed at . So I think that , yeah , I get that in a way like you sort of feel like you're in someone's living room .
Speaker 2I kind of take the point . Yeah , you have to kind of kind of embrace the fact that you're part of that family for the episode . Yeah , I kind of get his point . But I think that's exactly why Caroline Hearn pushed back on the idea of having a laughter track , because it would have distanced you from that space and you would just be laughing at these people then Instead it felt like you were one of them and you were part of this little quirky group .
Speaker 3Yeah , brilliant , I thought Do you think there's any other sitcom that would be less with a laughter track than maybe Early Doors ? Actually , than go on , Ralph Hamlin .
Speaker 2So a sitcom that doesn't have a laughter track , that if you put it on would be ridiculous .
Speaker 1Yeah , maybe Marion Jeff .
Speaker 2Yeah , definitely , definitely .
Speaker 3We were going to have that in . By the way , a couple of people asked why that didn't get in , and it was just purely because we didn't get enough . We didn't think it was popular enough , so we left it out . We tried to just pick the most popular ones , I mean .
Speaker 2Phoenix and Ice would just just wouldn't work , would it ?
Speaker 3I don't know because if you've seen , you know , you know them things on BBC , the Peter Kay collection or whatever , and it's like 10 minutes of stand-up . They put Laughter Track on it there .
Speaker 2It doesn't work as well , but yeah , it's quite subtle , though . Isn't it A bit like what we said about Partridge , where you kind of nearly miss some of the lines ? I just don't think it'd work . Yeah , shit Waste of time . Evelyn Macca said Do you know who that is ?
Speaker 3by the it's the guy who , craig , what's his name ? Dave , shagged once in it and yeah , and she hates her once I thought Max and Paddy was bloody terrible .
Speaker 3I did I'm not going to lie is my well . Obviously I don't want to influence people when that me . Personally , I'm not even sure if I'd have had it in the 32 that we'd have had , but when I came back to watching it for this it was much better than I thought and I think I just thought it was shit because it was nowhere near as good as Phoenix Knights .
Speaker 2There is some really good bits in it . I think Reece Shearsmith's great in it . I think I love it . Pigs on board All right , yeah , yeah yeah , yeah , I get what you mean . It kind of didn't . It feels like it's not kind of in the same league as Phoenix Knights . Really , it feels like a bit of a step down from that . A bit of like Phoenix Knights seemed like it just was a masterpiece , whereas this felt like Peter Kay just almost had a quick couple of hours to write a sitcom .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , that's what I thought maybe that is what happened .
Speaker 2to be honest , kieran Early Doors and the Thick of it are two of the best comedies we've ever produced , and they're both sailing out in the first round .
Speaker 3They got fruit at second . But you know , democracy innit it's a full system .
Speaker 3Sorry , kieran , our vote was worth no more than yours , my friend yeah , matt b said early doors is massively underrated , um , and sam said thanks for living with me . He's now watching early doors again . Uh , next on the lift is friday night dinner , which he's never seen , and he's re-watching peep show . Thanks , boys , this is what I mean with early doors . Like included these messages because we've probably got more about early doors than any other sitcom on this . What we've done , he didn't . He only got to round two , but I think we've got more comments on early doors than we did anything else .
Speaker 2Yeah , maybe , so Well , I think probably is one that might pass people by without even really realising that . I don't think there's many others on the list that you wouldn't have been Like . To me , early doors is better than Max and Paddy , but Max and Paddy got a lot more sort of TV advertising and you couldn't not be aware of that . But I think early doors I only knew of it on DVD . I'd missed it when it had been on telly . Yeah , yeah , fair play Travelling sent us definitely recommend sticking with FND Friday Night Dinner .
Speaker 2Friday Night Dinner . Past the first series , a lot of great moments and characters to come . Martin goes from strength to strength . Yeah , I mean , I must admit that is one Of all the others . I've watched Bits and Piece and Dipped in and Out . That probably is the one that felt like I just watched enough to do what we were doing . I probably do need to go and put a bit more time into that . I haven't done that .
Speaker 3Yeah , I agree it got better . I remember , I think , a text you actually we weren't trying to influence anyone , anyone , but I think I messaged you saying , fuck me , this is an odd watch . After like episode 2 I'm thinking I would not be sticking with this , but it did get better .
Speaker 2So I can see what Travelling's saying yeah , yeah , and people love it , so it's . It wasn't like a one hit wonder and it went and it stuck around for a bit . So , yeah , there's got to be more to it . So , yeah , I need to give that a bit more time , martin . Travesty , this country should have won .
Speaker 3You've got an appetite in the first round , haven't you ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I love this country , and you once came round here , was it ?
Speaker 3All right , Farage .
Speaker 2When did we try and watch it ? I put it on for you once , but I felt like you weren't giving it your full attention .
Speaker 1I think I was bl put it on for you once , but I felt like you weren't , you weren't giving it your full attention .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , you were chatting away , you were . I just didn't think you watched it properly , and then you said that was not funny . But yeah , I suppose if it had been an office or a Phoenix Knights it might have grabbed you . So maybe it's a bit more subtle , but yeah , I love . I love this country .
Speaker 3Yeah , nationalism .
Speaker 2Well , it's the Oro , isn't it ? I'm sorry it's yours , isn't it ?
Speaker 3Yeah , james says this is all moot , because the correct answer is Dinner Ladies , and Dinner Ladies was on the initial list until the very last second . Yeah it was one of the last couple to drop out . It was just we got two votes in for Two Pints of Lager really quickly and we were the only one that had not got any votes . So you know , I'd have had that in definitely .
Speaker 2I like Dinner Ladies . As you know , a massive Victoria Wood fan , I think she's right up there with comedy icons . Don't like Julie Walters as a comedy actress .
Speaker 3If I'm honest , that scene of Julie Walters actress , if I'm honest , that scene of Julie Walters . You know when they do what , is it Acorn Antiques which is really ?
Speaker 1Yeah , it's really good isn't it ?
Speaker 3I've never really found that funny . I love Victoria Ward . Her songs are amazing . By the way , she's got albums out of her songs .
Speaker 1They're almost like Morrissey-style lyrics . They're fucking brilliant .
Speaker 2They are , aren't they they're ?
Speaker 3like Alan Bennett . Yeah , yeah , yeah . Quite sort of sad down .
Speaker 2Victoria . He's quite sad . A lot of them . We're going to try and do an episode on Victoria Ward .
Speaker 3We wanted to do it earlier on , didn't we ?
Speaker 2And I didn't quite know how to tackle it because there's that much to go at . But yeah , I think we probably will .
Speaker 2I would like to do that Anyway what I was going to say about Dinner Ladies is do you think that style , though , almost became a bit sort of old fashioned very quickly ? I mean , it's almost like what they do in extras . Where he does is when the whistle blows obviously a spoof of a sitcom and didn't ladies , kind of , as that is very sort of set piece organized . This happens , then this happens then oh , that person's dropped this . So they say yeah yeah , yeah , yeah , which , again , not be critical . It had a big fan base and I genuinely .
Speaker 3victoria wood is is a comedy hero of mine but , yeah , very dated most sitcoms at the time like that , although I did watch yesterday because for some reason I just had to be away for news night to come on . So that's how I , that's how I roll , rock and roll and um on before we're , uh , the young , which I think you really hate , don't you ? Yeah , I think it's you who hates it , I don't like any of the characters in it .
Speaker 2I remember watching my uncle and him sort of giggling away at it and just thinking like it's just pathetic .
Speaker 3It were better than I thought , but it's not something I'd choose .
Speaker 2I don't like it . Like I love Rick Mayall , I like Ed Edmondson . I think both of them play horrible characters in it . I think Vivian , like this odd case is a bit ridiculous . I think the little snooty man in the suit I don't like .
Speaker 3He might be the least funny sitcom character .
Speaker 1He might be the least funny sitcom character , I think Mike , is it Mike ?
Speaker 3just does like hey , I tell you what . This would be a great scene . I don't know . It's just those looking at camera and stuff .
Speaker 2Dopey twat with long hair yeah .
Speaker 1Neil , I just don't think there's a .
Speaker 2None of them are not even just likeable .
Speaker 3None of them are funny in it Like hammer and yeah , no , it's not I can see what reason brought up , because I can see why that was so big , though , because he's so fucking different to everything else yeah , it was probably mad in the time .
Speaker 2I just think things have been done better since and very much like um the young ones .
Speaker 3Nav said he's surprised that desmond's isn't in the tournament it's older than 30 years it's older than 30 years . Desmond's , I don't know I I just laughed my head off at that .
Speaker 2Desmond's it's such a good name for a sitcom , to be fair , when you're rating how funny a name can be for a sitcom that's up there with the best , isn't it ? Desmond's ? Desmond's brilliant name . Yeah , dan , okay , where are 50% of you ? Yeah , because you went , didn't you ? Yeah , okay , right , perfect listening in the sun with a beer , distracted from the noise . Sitting with kids by the pool Important to know I do have children . I'm not one to watch .
Speaker 1Great work .
Speaker 2Kent , yeah , I'm glad we could offer you some sort of some what's the word ? I don't want to say comedy , because it sounds like that means we think we're funny Some kind of entertainment whilst you're away . I know what you mean . There's nothing better than well , I'm saying it , I don't do it , so I'm going to say there's nothing better .
Speaker 3There's nothing better than something that .
Speaker 2I don't do . I always think , though , before I go on holiday , I'll lay on the sun lounger , I'll have a drink and I'll listen to some podcasts or some music , but I don't . I just end up in and out of the pool with the kids and running about , and it's something I never do . But yeah , it sounds great , so I hope you enjoyed it , dan jp . Rooting around in and dusting off the dvd collection , I found the office extras and phoenix nights , uh , and one that probably fell out due to age teachers , which is Ace .
Speaker 3I don't think teachers fall out due to age . I just think we class that as a comedy drama rather than a comedy thing , because Dead Bat replies he's a big fan of teachers . Obviously he is a teacher .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't even think I'd say comedy drama . I think it's a drama that's funny . I think , like , where does that end ? Like Cold Feet , Could you have cold feet in that ? I don't even know if that would be the last 30 years anyway , but I don't . I might be wrong here . I don't think it would be listed as a stickler . No , I'd say it's the same here .
Speaker 3I'm with you there . I think that's why we didn't . I loved it and , like Deadbot mentions the soundtrack , which were absolutely amazing , walking around Sheffield trying to get that soundtrack , like when we used to go to Fop and HMV and Our Price and all that and no one sold it and never got it . But it's online , so you know it's alright , it's a soundtrack . Yeah , it was really hard to get hold of .
Speaker 2I think DeVasis and Mrs had some involvement in that . I'm sure there's a I am clue . They play a song on it and Mertic says I'm going to introduce this one because you've got connections , haven't you , ricky ? And he says yeah , but you were going to play it anyway , weren't you ? And he says yeah , he plays an I Am Clue song . I'm sure it's from the Teacher soundtrack .
Speaker 3Oh , nice one . I've seen them on I Am Clue . It looks like Bill Hod once wrote a review on Rate your Music and it's such a shit . He just put I am a clumb . It doesn't even make sense , like that was his review . 4 out of 5, . I am a clumb , it doesn't even make sense .
Speaker 2Deadman obviously responded , didn't he ? Mr ? Beard loved the soundtrack and there's people I've worked with who just like the character in Teachers . Probably the reason for that is because he's a teacher , isn't he ?
Speaker 3Yeah , it's not that really surprising .
Speaker 2It makes sense , doesn't it ?
Speaker 3Adds up . I've said to you hate when I do this , but I love how Andrew Lincoln smokes in Teachers . I've said this to you many a time .
Speaker 2I've seen you demonstrate this far too many times .
Speaker 3I'm doing it now , right ? Yeah , if you don Watch how he smokes , he's always proper stress sort of smoking . Brilliant smoker Dave said , in view of your current series of sitcoms , he'd like to know our opinion on Murdering . Successful Said he could help get into an argument with him and his mate . He thinks he's genius , but his mate thinks it's guff . Have you seen this ?
Speaker 2I'm just going to refresh my memory because the name rings a bell , but I can't think what it is .
Speaker 3It's the big dude , Greg Davies . No big cockney man , Richard Osmond blah . What's he called ? Tom Davis ? You know the big you don't know what I mean .
Speaker 2Yeah , I've got a picture of him up now .
Speaker 3Yeah , and he improvises , he's half improvised , like they get a celebrity in and every week they've got a picture of him up . Now , yeah , and he improvises , it's half improvised like they get a celebrity in and every week they've got a crime to solve and they've had like I think Emma Bunton won one or so , and Dermot O'Leary and stuff like that . Every time I've seen it I've really , really liked it . But it's another one of them that it's really hard these days , I think , to try and get into a series and watch it every week . I think last time I did it was probably Sherlock .
Speaker 2I've never seen it , so I'll have to have a look at this .
Speaker 1It is good when I've seen it .
Speaker 2I can see Dermot O'Leary's been in it . Oh , go on . What's her name off Dragons ? Deborah Meaden yeah , deborah .
Speaker 3Meaden were in one . I've seen Deborah Meaden , I've seen Debra Meaden . I've seen Emma Bunton .
Speaker 2Lorraine Kelly , I could see .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , there's a brilliant .
Speaker 2Yeah , it is really really , really good , Really good . Yeah , you're right , Emma Bunton . No , pass me by this . Chris Kamara is in one .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , I've not seen that one , but I remember him being in it um , remind us in a few weeks , uh , about that and I'll I'll try and watch it , dave uh , yeah so you've got this down as other bits . Is there any reason why this is other bits and not just not ?
Speaker 3really create . It's not really related to what we've been talking about . So so right over the sitcom stuff there's all bits and pieces there , but all right .
Speaker 2So matt said so , after this final and the Algarve , which is where you went , is the next project ? A World Cup of TV characters Del Boy v Malcolm Tucker , jamie Lannister vs the Doctor , homeland vs Mrs Brown , etc . Or are you looking at doing something around the Euro , or just a long break ?
Speaker 3We'll do a few specials for Euros Once again Nick and Webding's material , because they're doing one in Tufty Club . But I We'll do a few specials for Euros Once again Nick and Webding's material , because they're doing one in Tufty Club . But I don't know . We'll try and come at it from a different angle .
Speaker 2It's not going to be an analysis ? Is it of the games ? We'll try and come at it from a very similar angle to be fair . Won't we A very similar angle . But we're going to try and get some stuff off .
Speaker 3Last time we got some stuff off TV , didn't we Like ? Cut my new light , didn't you ?
Speaker 2Yeah , we're going to cast a wry eye over it , aren't we ? I think ?
Speaker 3It'll basically be like Fantasy League , but better that's a massive play , isn't it ? Yeah , no pressure .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know . Next series . I think the problem we've had with this series is and it was always going to end this way , but it's . The concept was great because we genuinely wanted to know what people thought was the best of last 30 years .
Speaker 3We always got asked as well , didn't we do peep show , do office do ?
Speaker 2those people wanted us to do sitcoms , and it felt like a way of ticking a lot off . But the problem was that , obviously , as it kept , as they kept getting through rounds , it felt a bit like how do we not just repeat ourselves and say something I don't know , I don't know if we do another World Cup . We might not sure , I'm not ruling it out , but yeah , chipman's got one next , actually , if you want to read that out , okay , but yeah , just in answer to that though yeah , we are going to do some Euro stuff , so there won't be a long break up , unfortunately .
Speaker 2No , I'm away again , Again I thought it was Chipman , but it's making me doubt because you've got Chipman A2I , so it probably is Chipman . I'm feeling about this is not . This is me , you , Chipman . I suspect this is you , Andrew , who's got this written wrong . I'm feeling about the third place playoff result .
Speaker 3Oh right , so Chipman said if Phoenix Knights did , knights did better the office any point , he said he'd kill everyone on the internet ah , right , so it's kind of with himself .
Speaker 2Yeah , right , right . So , yeah , okay , I told you what would happen if phoenix knights are better than the office at any point . I warned you what I would do , and I have to kill everyone on the internet . Start starting with myself yeah blow your mind . What about doing the World Cup of World Cups ? This would be brilliant . Or break the internet like typing Google . Yeah , I mean that is . That is a good idea , to be fair .
Speaker 3What would you go for off the top of your head now ?
Speaker 2Italian 90 .
Speaker 3Yeah , I mean , do you know what I think ? It's ? Because you're always your best , is always your first . So actually we're now for being shy . At Italian Artic , like in terms of goals , you have to introduce a back pass with that defensive . But I think it had so many memorable moments .
Speaker 2I mean I was eight . It's the first tournament of football I was aware of and it was brilliant . Didn't watch loads of it , but I remember David Platt scoring when I was in a hotel and I remember singing Camerooni Loonies on the playground yeah , roger Miller .
Speaker 3Yeah yeah , paul Gascon tears .
Speaker 2Scalacce , usa 94 . I enjoyed . Obviously we we weren't there yeah , we didn't get . France 98 were a good tournament France 98 is probably going to be up there in it as well yeah , 2002 , south Korea weren't too bored about that because we were very late . No , if you're not going to go , italian 90 , it's got to be 98 , I think .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm trying to think what else I mean to be fair .
Speaker 2obviously they're every four years , so we've only been alive for 10 of them .
Speaker 3Yeah , but I'll have to go back to the 60s and I'll watch them every game from 66 .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3I mean .
Speaker 2I could do , might not do that .
Speaker 3But yeah , we could . Ljd said there's a great thread about Nigel Farage's most Alan Portridge like moments . I don't know if you've seen this , liam . I've retweeted it , though there's no point in going into it because it's a lot of images . It's absolutely incredible how much he dresses like Alan Portridge at different times .
Speaker 2I've not , so it's a good time to plug , go find atlivingwemade1 on Twitter and give it a follow and watch the Farage . Yeah , it's really , really funny .
Speaker 3I mean he does dress in some brilliant outfits , farage , I have to admit .
Speaker 2He likes a blazer , don't he ?
Speaker 3He loves a blazer and it is like a partridge style blazer . And Tess wrote a brilliant piece on Madeleine the Squatters that we've retweeted again . I'm not going to go right into that . Major tagged us in this . It's a really good piece about Mabley and the Squatters . She just can't get her head around that scene where he says this could have been your home if it weren't for that squatter .
Speaker 2Yeah , he slips into his cockney twang yeah , brilliant . So from Jack , we we got a video of . Oh yeah , remember this , we got a video of Hulk Hogan saying he received a voice message from Roddy Piper two days after he died . It was a voice message that came two days after he died . It says I'm just loving you , my brother , Just walking with Jesus . Walking with Jesus and loving you , my brother .
Speaker 3Another tall tale from Mr Hulk Hogan . He's brilliant , isn't he ? He has that we should possibly do it . There's no limits does there ?
Speaker 2I mean , like how it's one thing to sort of say I met this kid and it's hard to prove . It's quite hard to disprove what's my point here ? That's not factually possible , is it ? It's not like you could say , cross wires , he didn't get a message from someone two days after they died ? Why aren't you showing it to anyone ?
Speaker 3because it didn't happen . I still think one of my favourites and it's a new one is that he said he wrote Hulkster in Heaven about Jamie Bulger after he'd wrote it . He died after he'd wrote it . So I heard about this guy called Jamie . I wrote a song Another Hulkamaniac in Heaven he has no idea if he were a Hulkamaniac .
Speaker 2Crazy . Most of us are , aren't we ? But yeah , he doesn't know . We can't assume that Fantastic name , richard Autobahn , and we've listened to him . Actually , is he the producer on Samson's Summer ?
Speaker 3Dance ? Yes , is the . Is it a producer on uh ? Does samson summer ? Yeah , so that's an interesting message . This is the guy , uh . What was his name is ? It dj colin , yes , I think that's right dj colin , if you , if you don't know what I'm about , yeah three , the does samson , one uh does got in touch with us , not happy uh , and I slag this guy off as well , to be fair .
Speaker 2But yeah , yeah . He said uh , it happened . I mean I happened across this podcast a tremendous takedown from a couple of years back about the documentary made about our eurovision adventures . Tremendous in quote sort of speech , quotation marks there , so presumably not a fan , um , although it did take the time to mention it .
Speaker 2So yeah , fair play uh , which daz surprisingly never mentioned to me , so I presume they're still in contact . Yeah , again , as we said at the time , I think I think we're both fans of Daz in the sense that I think he's probably the best Eurovision song we've done in terms of being catchy and yeah , and that documentary is hilarious and I don't .
Speaker 3If I sat down with DJ Collard and Daz , I think , all the way through it like we were watching it , I could say you must , and that documentary is hilarious .
Speaker 2And if I sat down with DJ Collard and Daz , I think all the way through it like we were watching it , I could say you must know that that's funny . Yeah , yeah , that's exactly how it stands . At the time we reviewed the documentary . We're not slagging off Daz or Richard Autobahn , Both probably great guys . Well , I've had a chat with Daz . I've never had a chat with . Richard .
Speaker 3Yeah , great guy , he's never well , I've had a chat with daz , I've never had a chat with richard , but yeah , yeah , we , we critiqued the documentary , not the people talking on another legend . So major message is this this is from 2013 and he's on about comedy , so it sort of fits in . Did you know about ? I don't think you've seen this learn . Did you know ? Mike parry had a massive like what ? One , two , three , four , five , six , seven , eight .
Speaker 3Now I think it's like a nine tweet rant about hello , hello , no I've not seen this brilliant , so he started by saying I know this sounds mad , but I think hello hello is horribly offensive tv program making out nazis to be a bunch of half-baked comics . That's his first tweet . Then he's put sorry about my very specific land , a rant about the Hello Hello , but there was nothing funny about Germany invading and occupying France . And then he said I take on side what you're saying about Hello , hello , satire and humour , because obviously he's getting a lot of people arguing back . Maybe I should loosen up .
Speaker 3But Nazis were evil , not funny . Then he said no , you don't get it about Hello , hello , you're saying Hello . Then he said no , you don't get it about Aloha . He's saying Aloha , french resistance fighters were some of the bravest people ever , horribly tortured , and we joke . Then he just doubles down Shocking and horrible things went on in France because the Nazis couldn't get across the channel . Nothing remotely about what funny happened there . And then he finishes with it's wrong to compare Dad's army with Aloha . By the grace of God , britain was not occupied , france was , and their people suffered terribly . So he don't like it . He don't like Alo , alo , because he must think it's a documentary . I don't know why he's so angry at Alo .
Speaker 2Alo . That's like saying porridge is not funny because terrible things happen in prisons .
Speaker 3It's ridiculous . You can joke about anything . There's a fucking sitcom called Heil . What is it ? Heil , Honey , I'm Home . We were going to do that , weren't we actually ?
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2I love Mike Parry . I can't get on board with him in this . I mean I do think , by the way , it's a weird one . I think at some point we might have to look at a low-low .
Speaker 3You love a low , low , don't you .
Speaker 2I find it so funny how often on funny it is Like it's one of them where it's really sort of a lot of the jokes are quite weak but but they're held up in such a sort of proud way as it to say like come on , just laugh along with us . That I think , yeah , they get me . I think it's good . Who is it who goes good moaning yeah they've got the sort of police guy who just , yeah , just pronounces different words . Wrong , doesn't he ?
Speaker 3Good moaning .
Speaker 2I was pissing by the door and I saw the shit of paper .
Speaker 3He's fantastic , absolutely fantastic .
Speaker 2Well , as you know , I love Gruber , don't I , oh yeah you do love Gruber , don't I ?
Speaker 3Oh , yeah , you do love Gruber , don't you ? Yeah , Weren't she quite nice in her time . What were her name ? That ?
Speaker 2woman in it . Well , she just used to kind of . They wrote in scenes where she used to take her dress off and yeah , yeah yeah , the hair lip . Who's the other ? Guy he kind of used to sort of watch her in a mirror , didn't he ?
Speaker 3like , yeah , a bit , a bit of blue for dads , weren't it a bit of blue for dads ? And anyway , I'm going to end with the comments here by saying it's a webding and he said so . I've left this to the end so you can listen for yourself . I've gone off my thing . Now , give me a second . I've got to go back .
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Speaker 3Is it yeah ? It is yeah At Living With .
Speaker 2Made 1 . Yeah , no , living With Made 1 at Outlookcom , but I shouldn't At livingwithmade1 . No , livingwithmade1 at outlookcom , but I shouldn't say art before it . It doesn't make sense . There's too many arts . So I tried to really over-pronounce the second art . Yeah , I mean to be fair , like fair play to most of our listeners , because you can see on some of the sort of feedback things , the percentage of is it retained listeners or something like that .
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Speaker 2Most people do make it most of the way through the episode .
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Speaker 2What's going on ? 5 for ages ?
Speaker 3Oh no that's an apple , isn't it ? Apple were 5 .
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Speaker 2It's another series done , but we'll be back very soon with our I think the Euros will start . By the way , before we come back with our Euro special , because you've got another holiday- coming up .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , just off the top of your head , dan Lane , quick off the top of your head . Who's going to win it ?
Speaker 2So who's going to win ? It will be .
Speaker 3Germany . My dad's gone . Germany , I've gone boring France , to be fair . I hope not .
Speaker 2I've got France . It just seems a bit obvious . I think I don't know who's your team to get the furthest that nobody's expecting anything from . That's probably more interesting .
Speaker 3I'm going to say Hungary Got a feeling Hungary might do . Okay Is Holland too obvious ?
Speaker 2Or the Netherlands , is that too obvious ?
Speaker 3I think they can . Yeah , I think no one thinks they're going to win it . If you think they're going to , they've got a brilliant defence , but not sure about the other way . To be fair , but we'll see .
Speaker 2Yeah , Portugal , France , Germany and yeah , I think the Netherlands might not be too far . Where do England go out ? Where do you think England leave the ?
Speaker 3tournament . I was going to say semis , but I'm thinking it might be quarters . Now I don't know . I'm basing too much on a friendly game which I didn't even see . But I'll say semis to France .
Speaker 2I think final .
Speaker 3Fucking hell , there were games that might be Germans . Then to be fair , do you ?
Speaker 2think Germans are going to win it yeah yeah , yeah , I think we'll get to the final . We concede a goal . We don't make the changes . We change things too late . We realise we haven't got Grealish to bring on and we go out . How many years of hurt we at now erm , I suppose about 50 or something , I don't know .
Speaker 3Listen to this On Football Clichés . They were talking about 58 , 58 , yeah , but they were saying it shouldn't have been 30 years of hurt at start , because that means you're hurting the minute you win the World Cup .
Speaker 2Yeah , you weren't hurting Until you lost . The next one were you .
Speaker 3Yeah , so it shouldn't have been 28 years of hurt , really , because that's when the next Euros were .
Speaker 2You know Bobby Moore in agony after lifting the trophy for 30 years .
Speaker 3It's like they were saying , like some people , I imagine Roy King would say come on , now we've done that . On to the next one .
Speaker 2Yeah anyway , yeah , we'll touch on all this more . We'll try and don't worry if you're not a football fan , we will mention the football . That is a key part of the tournament , but we're going to try and look out for other stuff happening in and around it . That's not all football related , so come along , I think you'll have a lot of fun .
Speaker 3Yeah , could be a laugh , Could be good , could be a washout . Hope not , hope not . But , anyway , liam , thank you very much for this series and but anyway , liam , thank you very much for this series and I will see you soon .
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