Dangerous Games - Stranger Than Fiction Theme - Halloween

We're keeping it creepy this month with another Stranger Than Fiction episode! Quizmaster Sups introduces four dangerous games played around the world. But three of the games have been ripped from the realms of fiction, while one scary sport exists in real life. Can you spot the truly deadly game? Join hosts Tanner and Andi as they dive in to unravel which game is stranger than fiction!

Transcript

Andi 0:01

Yeah, I guess I was expecting more blood. I'm glad that the head is already off of the animal

Tanner 0:08

guess It's awfully... Dark. like, well, just build a better bridge. Yeah, yeah.

Andi 0:15

We basically could have called this episode squid games.

Sups 0:19

games. Yes.

Andi 0:20

he's already come to terms with his mortality a little bit more than like a 20 something year old. Hello and welcome to this episode of I Should Have Known, the trivia game show that can't be trusted. Each week, one of our Quizmasters will present you with four facts about a topic, but one of those facts is a lie. And we are celebrating Halloween by doing Stranger Than Fiction this month. So all of our episodes this month have elements of comparing real world to fiction and all of the weirdness of both. And today we have Quite an unusual episode our quiz master is Supes,

Sups 0:57

Hello!

Andi 0:57

and Supes is doing an episode on dangerous games, but the structure is a little bit unusual. So instead of it being. One lie, it's going to be three lies. Supes made it really difficult for himself this week. So, he's going to present you with four dangerous games, and he's going to present them all as if they're real. But actually, only one of them is from real life. The other three are from... Fiction. So join me, Andy and our other host Tanner and figuring out which one is stranger than fiction.

Sups 1:30

So here you have to twist your brain because here there are three fake ones and one true.

Tanner 1:35

I

Sups 1:36

didn't invent any of the games, but I've taken inspiration from fiction. and then I've like slightly adjusted it, right?

Andi 1:43

In these kinds of episodes We kind of have a bonus minigame of guessing what fictional source these come from. It's kind of an extra. So We're kind of diving into some of the darker parts of fiction and human imagination, I suppose. And then also always knowing that one of these is real.

Sups 2:03

Yes. So what I can say outright is that there is blood and death involved. All right. So there's something in all of the,

Tanner 2:12

Yeah.

Sups 2:14

that's true. Yes. before we get going let's do our PQQ pub quiz question of the week. This, I guess, is the least creepy thing that you're going to hear from me in the next Okay, we're talking about sports, right? So here's like a sporty question In the upcoming Paris Olympics 2024, how many sports disciplines will be there? like actual number of sports, Because cycling, for example, has like many different types of cycling. Swimming has like types of swimming.

Andi 2:44

did you know, trivia once we talked about this and how disciplines and actual individual sports are different. there were 10 at the original Olympics. So now I'm going to guess there's... 19.

Tanner 2:55

I say

Sups 2:56

30. The answer is 32.

Tanner 2:58

Oh, okay.

Andi 2:59

Ooh. 32. Oh,

Sups 3:00

and usually the word 28

Andi 3:02

They added four more.

Sups 3:03

They added surfing. Skateboarding, climbing, and breakdance.

Andi 3:08

Oh, wow. But, none of those are

Tanner 3:11

That's not

Sups 3:11

not. none of them. None of them are creepy. That's why I said this is like the least creepy question

Tanner 3:15

Yeah.

Sups 3:15

now on to the main

Andi 3:16

course. Onto the horror Olympics.

Sups 3:19

Okay, cool. Sport number one. is Buzkashi.

Tanner 3:24

the name of

Sups 3:25

Buzkashi is the national sport of Afghanistan. So in this game This combines elements of rugby and equestrian.

Tanner 3:33

Okay.

Sups 3:34

Players are called chapandas. Okay. And they're carrying a headless calf or a goat and they take it on their horse. So usually what they do, they dip the headless calf or the goat carcass and like water to increase

Andi 3:49

To make it heavier.

Tanner 3:49

Oh God.

Sups 3:50

Right. And they have to, score some points And these chapandas, like the players, they don't actually own the horses. The horses are actually owned by the rich, the landowners, like the rich people in the tribe.

Andi 4:03

So here's the hunger game element. Yeah. These are

Tanner 4:05

just the jockeys, the

Andi 4:06

horses, the real stars. Oh yeah. You

Sups 4:09

Yes.

Andi 4:10

How dangerous is it though? Like, To the humans?

Sups 4:13

the humans. can get injured, right?

Andi 4:15

yeah, I imagine, punching each other. The only rule is, like, keep the goat

Sups 4:21

Yeah. and

Andi 4:22

cross the line.

Sups 4:23

that's why, you know, a good Chapandas is. In his forties. So he's training for of his life to actually have this

Andi 4:31

all, and you know, he already lived a pretty solid like, amount of time. So like, it's, it's fine. Yeah. He's like,

Tanner 4:36

He's already come to terms with his mortality. He's like a 26 a life, to...

Andi 4:38

he's, he's already come to terms with his mortality a little bit more than like a 20 something year old. So he's had a, he's had time to live a life, I guess. yeah, yeah.

Sups 4:49

20 something year old.

Tanner 4:50

So do you think that people really play this in the real world? Really riding around on horses and carrying a dead, headless animal.

Andi 4:59

Oh man. This sounds brutal. I guess my thing is like, well, what fiction is this from then?

Tanner 5:05

guess my thing is, like, what fiction

Andi 5:05

like...

Tanner 5:06

Right.

Andi 5:07

Other than like the

Tanner 5:08

don't know, I was

Andi 5:11

What else

Tanner 5:12

it Sounds very real, like, gruesome.

Andi 5:14

yeah Yeah, I guess I was expecting more blood. I'm glad that the head is already off of the animal the creepy element there is that, like, they're using a carcass, but like, historically, like,, they couldn't make a rubber ball like we use today. So they're often used bladders of animals, like inflated bladders. Or a pig skin in football. Like they're made of leather, they are technically carcasses. They're just not as explicitly

Tanner 5:40

Yeah, we've kind of removed all the Recognizable parts.

Andi 5:44

Yeah. But like, it's still made from an animal, so it's not like that much of a stretch to me. Yeah.

Tanner 5:50

I could see like some sci fi writer being like, oh, you know what we call them pigskins today. What if it's an actual animal in the future, or like in my. dystopian, apocalyptic future.

Andi 6:02

I think this would come from fantasy if it comes

Tanner 6:05

from, Yeah.

Andi 6:05

you know, like the Dothraki. Yeah. So I guess,

Tanner 6:09

Could be. 10

Andi 6:10

It's pretty weird, pretty creepy.

Tanner 6:12

Yeah.

Sups 6:13

The second sport. Anubismus

Tanner 6:15

Okay.

Sups 6:16

And so in this port, which has mentions in, Ancient Egypt there's basically sort of a labyrinth, and there are wild animals who are in this labyrinth. Each participant is blindfolded and then they are released in this labyrinth from different corners. The goal of the game is to successfully exit this labyrinth. This has the way of determining justice because they believe that an individual accused of crime was. Considered to be guilty until they prove their innocence, So these were like criminals, like cases that they couldn't decide. They were like, if they are true.

Tanner 6:58

If the gods thought you were innocent. You could make it out.

Sups 7:02

Yeah.

Andi 7:02

Okay.

Tanner 7:03

So there's a maze or labyrinth and they put blindfolded players in and then they release wild animals and if you can make it out alive. you win.

Sups 7:13

You are not guilty. Basically.

Tanner 7:14

Yes.

Andi 7:15

So it's got some like gladiator elements there where it's like you're a potential criminal and so we are gonna make Yeah. Trial by

Tanner 7:24

know, crowd

Andi 7:25

Yeah. It's awful. Lot of work.

Tanner 7:26

you

Andi 7:27

To build a whole

Tanner 7:28

kill someone, you could do it easier, but if if you were

Andi 7:34

worried like, do people watch this? Or like,

Sups 7:37

there, were mentions of like people gathering to see this justice.

Tanner 7:40

like, the

Andi 7:41

Yeah. Like the gladiators. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah. Obviously like. The definition of sport is kind of

Tanner 7:47

changing. You can't be a professional, Player.

Sups 7:51

Yeah, no, no, no,

Andi 7:52

Well that's what I was going to say, I was like, it seems like a lot of work if you know, it's real to have to like, you'd have to make new labyrinths because if the same guy Gets accused multiple times. He just could memorize the route out of the labyrinth.

Tanner 8:04

only problem is the wild dogs. Yeah, yeah. Unless they like,

Andi 8:07

what I'm

Tanner 8:07

build One new wall. and then you're like,

Andi 8:09

just runs

Sups 8:10

you're fucked. He just runs straight over it.

Andi 8:12

Full speed into the wall.

Sups 8:13

surprise.

Andi 8:16

I feel like it's too complex. It sounds fictional in the real world. It's literally like stand on this scale with this goose and like, Oh, you're too heavy. You're dying. Like it's, this is too complicated.

Tanner 8:27

yeah, it would save time and money and effort to just like, let the animals. go and see if you can outrun them,

Sups 8:33

you know?

Tanner 8:33

like,

Andi 8:34

Go and see if You don't need the maze as well. It's kind of like too many extra things. It sounds fictional to me because it's too complicated. Like, isn't there some... Book or a movie like called the maze runner like

Tanner 8:45

Yeah. Right.

Andi 8:46

not literally

Tanner 8:47

from the mummy or the book of the dead or something.

Andi 8:50

Yeah, right like I mean Are in the extant? Labyrinths in egypt that you can go see like i've never heard of anything like that Which is you know, never a great argument, but like I don't know So, I feel like that one, to me, sounds much more fictional than the first one. The first one sounds very real in that argument, where it's like, it's simply just keep this goat

Tanner 9:10

The rules are so

Sups 9:10

are so simple. Yeah.

Tanner 9:11

When you think of games in sports, you need to think of like, the gear, the prep time, the officials or like rules and like this one it takes construction.

Andi 9:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah, It does have coliseum vibes, but I don't know. Sounds a little too complicated to Me

Tanner 9:27

too,

Sups 9:27

Okay. more. Alright, so sport number three duck fight.

Andi 9:32

Duck fight.

Sups 9:33

Yeah, yes. So now we're. Taking a leap from the realm of human sports to a little bit of animal sports.

Tanner 9:41

Okay.

Sups 9:41

now we go to Cambodia This has existed for more than 600 years. Where ducks are raised specifically for fights, And the only way the match ends is when one of them

Tanner 9:55

them So

Andi 9:56

chicken fighting but with ducks. Why ducks?

Sups 10:00

the Cambodian Hindus believe that the blood of the dead duck is used to scare away evil spirits. this is always played in the temple grounds and then they say now the balance and the harmony is restored so the owners do everything to prep the duck in top condition, It's treated as like a member of the family,

Andi 10:25

Yeah,

Tanner 10:25

love them too much then. Yeah. they're not

Sups 10:26

yeah,

Tanner 10:27

forever. exactly.

Andi 10:28

It's just until one duck is alive. Uhhuh. And that duck is the king of ducks. And what happens to that duck?

Sups 10:34

That duck is like treated as like royalty and all the other. Yeah. And all the other ducks that I could take it home and cook and I

Tanner 10:40

Oh, okay.

Sups 10:41

yeah,

Andi 10:42

They don't waste the duck. So

Tanner 10:43

they just need the blood for the temple. And then,

Sups 10:45

temple. And

Tanner 10:46

the winner is, like, pardoned, like the Turkey at Thanksgiving.

Andi 10:49

Yeah. Um, the

Tanner 10:51

of all the

Andi 10:52

what the hell

Tanner 10:53

So it sounds to me like they wanted to cleanse their temple with duck blood and they're like, I don't want to choose which duck to kill. Let's just have them

Sups 11:01

Let's just

Andi 11:03

you know? It's literally cockfighting, but with ducks. Right,

Tanner 11:07

and they want them to die.

Andi 11:08

And my thing is like, chicken fighting, I can understand because, they have Sharp claws, and

Tanner 11:14

claws, and they have

Andi 11:15

sharp beaks, but like, and they're very territorial, and they can't really fly very well, so like, that makes sense. roosters are mean. Ducks are rapists, but I don't know how like, mean they are, and like, I don't know, like, with webbed feet, like, how do they kill each other?

Tanner 11:31

Doesn't make any sense. And Why don't they just fly away?

Andi 11:34

you know, Yeah, yeah, ducks can fly really well. So I'm very skeptical of this in that sense, that, like, Why are they ducks?

Tanner 11:42

less creeped out and more confused. like, how does

Andi 11:45

Yeah.

Tanner 11:45

work? Oh, man. It sounds pretty believable in terms of like, how you get it set up.

Andi 11:51

Yeah.

Tanner 11:52

a bunch of ducks.

Andi 11:53

You just and like, people make animals fight. Yeah. Like, that's believable.

Tanner 11:57

hmm.

Andi 11:57

ducks?

Tanner 11:58

So many questions.

Andi 11:59

They just got their corkscrew penises, like,

Tanner 12:01

that's all I know about them.

Andi 12:03

like one of the only things I know about ducks. but then the other argument there, It's like, we could say, like, we don't believe this is real, but like, what fictional universe has ducks fighting each

Tanner 12:12

other? Right?

Andi 12:13

Like, what is that? Like, literally, what, where'd that come from? Right. If that's not real... Where'd it come

Tanner 12:20

Right?

Andi 12:21

Is there

Tanner 12:21

I think

Andi 12:22

where there are, like, I'm thinking Ninja Turtles, but ducks. I have no clue.

Tanner 12:27

like, Duck

Andi 12:28

Yeah,

Tanner 12:29

it's

Sups 12:30

Oh no, I'm

Andi 12:32

Yeah, so it's definitely one of those things where it's like, sounds weird enough to be real.

Tanner 12:36

Yeah

Andi 12:36

But also, like, I don't know enough about ducks. I have a lot to Yeah.

Tanner 12:43

I think this one's in the middle for me. so

Sups 12:46

Okay. one more. All right. This should clear all doubts.

Tanner 12:50

Yeah, right. I

Sups 12:51

Sport number four. Shatni chulnu.

Tanner 12:55

Okay.

Sups 12:56

Ever heard? Okay. So this is an

Tanner 12:58

think I can even say it.

Andi 12:59

it.

Sups 13:01

extreme version of hopscotch, I would say very popular in Mongolia during 600 to 700 AD, when Mongolia was ruled by the Khanates. Which is basically like a tribal

Andi 13:15

Mm

Sups 13:15

500 years later, Cengiz Khan takes over,

Andi 13:18

right. And

Sups 13:18

then he unites all of them. So this is just Yeah.

Andi 13:22

that

Sups 13:22

Right. Game is super simple. Because when you're a nomadic tribe, construction isn't your thing, but building bridges is. And In this game, basically you had. To test the strength off like how well they've been building these bridges. They're built these bridges like over rivers or like valleys And these panels some of them would be fragile and the

Andi 13:46

idea

Sups 13:47

to cross

Andi 13:48

Right, you have to move quickly, you have to be able to make quick bridges and test them and I guess you make a game of it?

Tanner 13:53

Yeah, yeah.

Sups 13:54

But at the same time, it was like we don't want to carry all the weak people, So this was of like letting go, like, you fall down and then you left behind. So the idea was there.

Tanner 14:04

guess It's awfully... Dark. like, well, just build a better bridge. Yeah, yeah.

Andi 14:10

Yeah, But Who's going to agree to play a sport where you have to run across a bridge that might break, you know, so like to be situations like we know happened in the real world where certain kinds of people are made to play these in order to test them. This to me, though, this is a video game.

Tanner 14:28

Like,

Andi 14:28

Yeah. Right. Like like, or like in Indiana

Tanner 14:32

Indiana Jones

Andi 14:33

Yeah. Where he has to spell the right word to spell thing. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it makes complete sense in the idea that like, This group would need to build bridges. They would come up with a way of testing them. So like criminals or something, you know. that makes complete sense.

Tanner 14:49

complete sense. That you

Andi 14:50

would test them using people who you don't value very much. But like,

Tanner 14:55

using people who

Andi 14:55

would they build a bad bridge though?

Tanner 14:58

Well, they wanted it to be the strongest that it could be, right? Yeah,

Sups 15:01

So like,

Andi 15:01

what are these guys like jumping

Tanner 15:02

so I guess, maybe no one loses sometimes.

Andi 15:05

I don't know. It sounds a little too, imaginatively dark,

Tanner 15:09

Yeah.

Andi 15:09

not like real world

Tanner 15:11

dark. Right? Because if I In a group that was trying to, like, move across the land and build bridges and stuff. I would think that I would value the people in my tribe more than, I would want to get rid of them, you know? Yeah. See, that's where it sounds like A little too far for me.

Andi 15:27

yeah, because this is a video game. Okay, well, can you repeat the four of them for us before we guess which one is stranger than fiction and is actually real?

Sups 15:37

Okay, well, can you repeat the four before we guess Sport number three, duck fight. And sport number four, chutney chulnu,

Tanner 15:56

Alright. Wow. Ooh. Um.

Andi 15:58

Okay. Which one do you think is the actually real one? Because they've all been presented to us as if they're real, but only one of them is actually real.

Tanner 16:07

it's between the duck one and the first one, the horse one. Mm-hmm.

Andi 16:12

I'm guessing it's the first one.

Tanner 16:15

Okay.

Andi 16:16

on that principle of, it's the simplest game.

Tanner 16:18

it's the simplest. it makes the most... sense to me, like how a game comes up, I could see people riding horses and throwing around dead animals, and then, it's tradition,

Andi 16:29

It's just a it's a ball. Yeah. Essentially. Like it's just is kind of like, it's a more gruesome sounding ball. Right. So to me, like that seems okay. Like it's keep away on horses,

Tanner 16:39

but the ball

Andi 16:39

just happens to be a

Tanner 16:40

Right?

Andi 16:41

I don't know, like, okay.

Tanner 16:42

Yeah. That's not so crazy when you kind of remove the bloody part.

Andi 16:46

Yeah. it's on the list because it's gruesome and bloody. But like, also like they're athletes.

Tanner 16:51

Yeah. train,

Andi 16:52

it's not a punishment kind of sport, like the lions in Rome or whatever. Yeah. So that to me, Makes it sound more realistic. And yeah, the ducks, I also agree, that sounds possible because, humans make animals fight each other. I've never heard of ducks.

Tanner 17:09

the

Andi 17:10

The other two sound too complicated and too dark. They sound fictional, like, fictionally

Tanner 17:16

fictionally So I'm going to go with the duck one.

Sups 17:20

Okay. Okay, duck fight. Okay, cool.

Andi 17:24

Bouskashi.

Sups 17:26

alright. Okay, cool. So let's start with the sports that you didn't pick. And then you had some critical comments about those sports. Let's see how

Andi 17:36

this. So, sport number

Sups 17:38

So sport number four, extreme version of hopscotch where people jumping from one bridge to another. And if they miss it, they fall down.

Andi 17:46

you can use the

Sups 17:47

in squid games.

Andi 17:48

Oh, it's in Squid Games. I didn't watch that, Supes.

Sups 17:52

so

Andi 17:53

and dark for me.

Tanner 17:54

fall

Sups 17:54

I don't know why I was reading about the Mongolian history. And then I started reading about bridges during. So I thought, okay, let's combine these two. And then, yeah,

Andi 18:02

right, Right, Okay. Squid games.

Tanner 18:05

and dark games.

Andi 18:06

good place for inspiration. Squid games.

Sups 18:08

Yeah.

Tanner 18:08

Great choice. all

Andi 18:09

We basically could have called this episode squid games.

Sups 18:12

games. Yes. All right. Sport number two, Anubispus,

Tanner 18:16

Sounds like Anubis.

Sups 18:17

right. It is. So in Egypt, the God of funeral rites, the protector of graves and the guide to the underworld, Anubis, this is inspired from ancient Egyptians books or mythology

Tanner 18:28

I know in like the texts, like the Book of the dead, they talk about like, what happens after you die.

Sups 18:33

correctly Okay. Now we're down to two. We'll go to sport number three. Duck fight. It's from a video game.

Tanner 18:41

It's a

Sups 18:42

nothing to do with Cambodia and the blood part is actually true for cockfight in Bali. The Balinese Hindus,

Andi 18:48

Oh, yeah. There is

Sups 18:49

a video game where the ducklings are fighting against each other. Yes,

Andi 18:54

just

Tanner 18:55

basically my,

Sups 18:56

that video game. They're just like fight

Andi 18:57

fight video game. duck

Sups 18:58

game. That's it.

Tanner 18:59

That's amazing! I mean... I

Andi 19:01

Right,

Sups 19:02

Mortal

Andi 19:03

but with ducks. so we had a TV show. We had books and

Sups 19:08

game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So which means sport number one is absolutely true. This is the national sport of even played today. And actually, if you watch the movie Rambo three, you will see Sylvester Stallone. Also on a horseback. Wait.

Tanner 19:26

Stop! No way!

Sups 19:27

Yeah. Yes. This Buzkashi has been shown in quite a few Hollywood, Bollywood movies. So it's like,

Andi 19:33

I mean, that, that set of skills, can you imagine, like, you have to be super good at riding a horse to the point where you don't use your hands to ride the horse, which is... Super impressive.

Sups 19:43

Yeah,

Andi 19:43

Yeah, You know strong you'd have to be to hold that in one hand

Tanner 19:46

fighting off other

Andi 19:47

Yeah. Oh man. This sounds brutal.

Tanner 19:49

gruesome. It's bloody. I should have

Andi 19:51

I should have known. Thanks for listening to this episode of I Should Have Known. We'll be continuing our Stranger Than Fiction themed month for Halloween next week. Your Quizmaster will be Tanner, and he will do an episode on True Crime Podcasts, so kind of meta, I guess, so be on the lookout for that, and as always, I'm going to pick the ducks,