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Hallmark Christmas Movies II - December Theme Month
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Happy December! We're continuing our theme with end-of-the-year staples like Hallmark Christmas movies! Quizmaster and cheesy film connoisseur Andi screened four Christmas movies from the Hallmark Channel, but one of them is completely made up! Do you think you're an Xmas expert and can find the fake? Curl up and tune in together with hosts Tanner and Sups to find out!
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think I've seen the movie.
SupsI, watched the movie in my head. My First impression is that this doesn't sound too hallmarky.
AndiAnd a man ends up naked with only a Santa hat to cover himself.
TannerIt
AndiI would say this was the best one of the ones I watched.
Supsmovie I've
Tannera no
Supsmade
AndiHello, and welcome to this episode of I Should Have Known, the trivia game show that can't be trusted. Each week, one of our Quizmasters will present you with four facts about a topic, but one of those is a lie. And we're doing December for our theme, this is our most Christmassy episode. I'm your Quizmaster today, I'm Andi, and I am going to be doing a Find the Fake episode of Hallmark Movies. So I'll present you with four Hallmark movies and tell you the plots Except one of them I have made up So join our other hosts Supes and Tanner and trying to figure out which one of these movies is fake from Andy Studios so maybe you know, if you think it's good Hallmark Give me a call
Tannerit's actually
AndiIt's actually a part two we did the same thing last year I made up a movie then too, so if you enjoy this one go back and listen to that one as well.
Tannerand listen to that
Andithat's like the thing about it is like first of all, I don't really like movies and then I Definitely don't like Hallmark movies,
Tanner25
AndiI don't know. I mean, I've only watched literally six Hallmark movies.'cause three for this episode and three for the one last year.
SupsThat's like in your entire lifetime you've just watched six Hallmark movies. Okay Wow. It's really
Andinot
Tannerexpert.
Supsweek. I mean, you know the ending. But it's fun.
TannerYeah, I guess if, if you just want something predictable, like popcorn. like It's not supposed to be exciting.
SupsYeah.
AndiOkay, so our PQQ this week is in what year was the Hallmark Channel founded?
TannerHallmark Channel
SupsYeah. I would say 2001.
TannerI would
SupsOh wow.
AndiYou should listen to Supes. It
Tanner2001. So
Supscan I say? I love Hallmark movies so much.
AndiYeah. So the Hallmark channel puts out a lot of movies every year, like for Christmas and there are always these kind of cheesy movies. Yeah, the channel is from 2001. Of course the Hallmark company is much older. They were making cards and other things before that. So, yeah even if you're not a fan of, you know, the movies, maybe you'll enjoy hearing the synopsis. And then I made one up.
SupsSo you're going to give us the plot of the
AndiYeah. I wrote up a little synopsis of, what happens in the movie. And I included some like highlights,
TannerAnd we learned last time we did these, that they can be as cheesy or as weird and out there as you can imagine. So, this is gonna be really hard.
AndiYeah. Hallmark movie number one. Quizmas. After getting laid off from her job as a junior editor at a music magazine, Danielle has to move back home with her parents. Her old childhood friend gets her a job as a substitute music teacher when the real teacher goes on an unexpected early maternity leave. Now Danielle must prepare a quirky bunch of middle schoolers for the Christmas pageant. One problem. She has horrible stage fright. At the school, she meets dreamy but uptight math teacher Damien, who is constantly complaining about all of the noise disturbing his class. After going to his classroom to complain to him, Danielle realizes that Damien is actually the guitarist of an old rock band that she liked in college. She enlists his help with a pageant. Through some adorable scheming by their young students, Danielle and Damien fall for one another, and they all perform a surprisingly entertaining rendition of God Rest You Merry So I had to pick this
Tannerpick this
AndiUnfortunately it's not about trivia or pub quiz.
TannerI
AndiYeah, the highlight is a cute, subplot with her parents, who are like trying to spice up their marriage. And a man ends up naked with only a Santa hat to cover himself.
TannerIt seems like it's required in a Hallmark movie.
AndiI've never seen that before.
Supsthat
TannerBut, Maybe I missed something. Where's the quiz?
Andiit like all takes place in the school, so I think it's like a, yeah, I, it's very lame. I saw the name like on the list and I was like, I have to pick that one. And then, yeah. I think it's just a pun on it being at a school.
TannerIf this is made up, she really missed the ball there. Like, you didn't even add a
AndiNo
TannerYou know, there's No trivia, there's No quiz to speak of.
SupsAnd I think that's why I think she did not make this up. Because then, there has to be some trivia element if the title of the movie is Christmas. But having said that just as a standard Hallmark plot, I think this is a very cool thought. I um, like it. You know,
Andivery Awful. I mean, it was kind of cringy.
TannerI mean, he's not old.
AndiI mean, He's, not old. Yeah.
Supsright, right.
AndiHe's, he's like, know, sexy professor type.
SupsGuitarist, turned math teacher. That's really nice. I
TannerYou know.
SupsWhen did this movie come out?
Andithis movie is from 2020.
SupsOh, very recent.
TannerYeah.
SupsRight. But she, made up not only the title, but also the
Tanneralso the plot. But the
SupsMm. But The naked Santa thing, I I can totally believe this happening in the film, right?
Tannerhappening
Andihas nothing to do with anything. It's just so, so silly.
SupsYeah. Yeah,
Tanneranything. It just
SupsI can already imagine the movie, in my
Tannerimagine the think I've seen the movie.
SupsI, watched the movie in my head.
TannerLike you were saying, it's like, it's very predictable. you know.
SupsYeah, I'm, kind of disappointed by the fact that there is no ex, or like a jealous girlfriend, you know,
Tannerfrom very recent. Should they under
AndiWelcome to Hallmark.
Tannerbest Right, we start off strong, hear another one.
AndiThis one is from 2022, from last year. Three brothers who live with their mom must learn to work together in order to take care of a baby. Someone drops off their baby at the fire hall with a note. Leaving him to hunky firefighter, Luke. He enlists the help of his neurotic and socially anxious pet therapist brother, Stefan, and his younger brother, Taylor, whose cranky demeanor and biting wit, recently got him fired from his job as a video game developer. Chaos ensues as the brothers Each struggle to care for baby Thomas without their mother, who is at the hospital with their aunt. The three of them decide to enter a Christmas decoration contest to win her a cruise. They reenact a super awkward nativity scene with the baby as Jesus and the brothers as wise men. Eventually the baby's mother returns. the brothers each have grown as people making Christmas bright for their family and finding love along the way. The highlight is whenever the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy plays, they do a hilarious and intricately choreographed dance routine. The brothers. Yeah. And they make like a, a three person Christmas tree thing. It's like they're like climbing on each other. It's like a whole dance.
Tannerwhole thing. The only one who's a hunky
Andiplayer. One is a hunky firefighter, one is a neurotic pet therapist. Uh, And the other is like, he's like the sassy one,
SupsMy First impression is that this doesn't sound too hallmarky.
Tannerthe Because it's not your stereotypical like, A couple thing, like a woman looking for a man or a man looking for a
Andithey each end up with a, a new girlfriend. so. That's what I said, finding love along the
Tannerlove along the way. Finding love along the way.
AndiYeah, the baby's mom actually, Luke dates her, so then the baby's still in the family.
Tannerthe does their mom win the
AndiNo.
TannerAww, not everyone gets a happy ending.
AndiWell, she's happy
TannerOkay.
Andiyeah.
TannerIt's just not a great Christmas present for her.
AndiWell, no, she's super happy because the brothers are, you know, they're getting along and they finally move out of her house.
Tannerhuge gift for her. Sounds kind of entertaining. Like, it's a little break from the, like, love story, it sounds like. Like there's an added antic of this.
AndiOrphaned baby. I would say this was the best one of the ones I watched.
Supsmovie I've
Tannera no
Supsmade it might, be a Hallmark movie, but it doesn't have Like the standard elements. Right? right.
TannerI think, yeah, the, central trope of, like, a woman looking for love. That's always what I think of with Hallmark. But maybe I'm just outdated. This is a brand new movie, like, last year. or 2022. so
SupsI don't think
Tannermoving on from those tropes.
Supsdon't think Hallmark executors are like, you know, I think this is a movie that Andy wishes Hallmark made. you know, role reversal. right? Why should only the women take care of a baby? I mean, yeah. So I can see the underlying message in the film. and the first one, which one would you think
Tannernot four, but two. Which one do you
Supsright. right. Yeah, that's the same vibe that I'm
Tannerthing it. It kind of sounds like it holds up,, but it's just not exactly what I would picture for a Hallmark movie.
SupsYeah.
TannerMaybe we should watch it. or maybe we should listen to the other two so we can hear if it's fake.
Andiwe can if it's fake. Yeah. Okay. it. Christmas in Quirky concert violinist Jess is in Vienna over Christmas for a concert at the Vienna Opera House. She finds that lately her passion for music is waning, and she is hoping to get the magic back. She visits with her college roommate Tori, who lives in the city. Tori is an aspiring artist who is caring for her cousin's three children. Their dad is an American diplomat in Vienna and recent widower named Mark. When Tori gets an opportunity to sell her art at the Christmas market, Jess must care for Mark's kids without knowing that he is the charming American she met at the market the day before. The kids fall in love with Jess almost instantly, but their dad takes umbrage with her opinionated attitude. But eventually, he softens and the whole family performs Silent Night at the opera house where Mark and Jess finally share a kiss.
TannerAww.
AndiThe highlight are the views of Vienna.
TannerMhm.
Andiit's like a tourist video, like, you, you get all the spots. And there's one quote where she calls Philly, where she's from, the Vienna of America.
SupsAmazing. Having recently been to Philadelphia and also to Vienna. I, can totally agree with her.
Andifeel about that.
Tannerright.
Andithis is from 2020
Supseverything about this film says, Hallmark, right From the start, Minus the Vietnam
TannerVietnam War. Yes.
SupsI don't think Hallmark executives have a passport.
AndiOh, I will also say this, This one is probably the worst one of the ones I watched. Mark and Jess have zero chemistry. They're seriously like, it's so painful to watch them together..It's awful.
TannerThis one kinda sounds like it's a different story to me. Like Jess and Mark and Tori could be from Like, some old novel or something that happens in Vienna, you know, and she made it into a movie. It sounds like she's taking inspiration from something.
SupsRight. I get this feeling. But also, She does say that this is the worst. Will she
TannerYeah,
Supsown plot that way? Hmm. You
TannerSelf
SupsYeah, that's, wow. she's like, yep, The worst movie is the fake one. I told you guys. you. didn't pick up on any of the clues. I mean, can totally envision a Hallmark movie like this.
TannerAnd the, roles that they
SupsRight.
Tannermusician and
SupsYeah. Yeah. Some secret service involved. I'm surprised there is no, like, political plot, I don't know that there is, like, a diplomatic
TannerBecause it's our only international one?
SupsYeah.
Tannermuch more boring than that. This is like a musician and a diplomat.
AndiYeah. It's really more like tourist video than
SupsIt is, and I find the, I find the choice of the city very interesting because Vienna as a city is very Christmassy during Christmas. right? They've got beautiful Christmas market. The entire city is lit up. like. I can also bet that there is like a scene where Mark and Jess are on like a horse carriage.
Tanneryeah. And then it's like green screen behind or
Andino, it's Vienna. They're on the Ferris wheel.
TannerOf course.
Supscourse.
TannerYeah. Oh,
Supswow. Okay. Hmm.
TannerSounds pretty
SupsI know, I inclined to believe it. Yeah.
TannerIt's just the Vienna part.
SupsYeah, It's quite international.
TannerMmm. That's hard.
SupsIt's hard.
TannerYeah. But we have one more.
AndiOne more. Hallmark movie number four. Snow Bride. This is from 2013. Greta Kane is a celebrity gossip journalist. She is pitted against a colleague to get a scoop on the Tannehill family, a political dynasty akin to the Kennedys. Greta's friend Doria is getting married and asks Greta to pick up her dress from the dry cleaners. While coming home from the gym, Greta gets a call that her colleague is at an event at the Tannehill estate. Greta drives up into the mountains to the estate where her car breaks down. With nothing to wear but the wedding dress, she stumbles through the snow in search of help. She is rescued by Ben, a mysterious man secluded away in a cabin. Eventually, she learns this is Ben Tannahill. When Ben's brother, Jared, brings home Ben's ex girlfriend, Claire, Ben lies to his family and tells them that he is dating Greta. The two eventually fall in love over wholesome holiday activities until Claire, who is secretly scheming to get into the family for prestige, reveals that Greta is a reporter. Greta is chased away in shame. Later, at Doria's wedding, after a miraculous dress fix, Ben shows up and forgives Greta. She encourages him to give up his family's political goals and become a novelist. The pair share a kiss while the credits roll.
Tannera
AndiSo the highlight is definitely Greta tumbling down a snowy mountain in a super ugly wedding
Tannerthe highlight up. Dynasty thing sounds like a Hallmark y movie thing and this Ben who lives in a cabin
SupsYeah, he's like the rebel. of the
Andihe's writing his novel in the cabin by himself.
SupsI'm a son of a millionaire, yeah. I don't have to work for a living. I can just be creative in my cabin.
TannerAnd girls will just show up. for me.
Supsthey'll come knocking at his door. But yeah,
TannerThis one. surprising if it's the fake. you
Supsknow? Yeah.
Tannerlike, there's so many moving parts
Supsof characters
Tannersomething. too detailed to be made up.
SupsRight.
Tannerbut I was really banking on the fourth one. being the fake. As I always do I guess Nothing about this really jumps out at me as being, Oh, that's definitely a Hallmark movie. Or that's definitely not a Hallmark movie, you know? it's not super Christmassy to me, like, the axes being there kind of pushes it more towards Hallmark, but it's not, like,
Supsdefinitive. a typical Christmas movie.
Andithey do Christmas
SupsRight, right. The
AndiThe setting Yeah,
SupsYeah, of
AndiThey make, like, gingerbread
Tannerred.
SupsYeah, sure. I think that this is true. Because the Stanahill as, like, a last name. the sounds like a very, also, hallmarky, last
Tanneris what's
AndiYeah, see, this is, what's funny to me about this. Is that, like, the only Tannehill I know is from football which I feel like is the opposite the people who would watch a Hallmark movie and think that sounds like a political family name.
SupsI can, I can, I can see like of the Tannehill. You know, George Tannehill Sr. Yeah, sure.
TannerYeah, I'm really, leaning against this one. being fake.
SupsRight.
TannerBut I guess we should get a recap of the four before we pick which one is fake.
AndiSure. So, Hallmark Movie 1, A Very Merry Quizmas. Hallmark Movie No. 2, Three Wise Men and a Baby. Hallmark Movie No. 3, Christmas in Vienna. Hallmark Movie No. 4, Snow Bride. One of those I made up,
Supsif I didn't get the plots and I got only the
TannerI only the title, I
Supsthat's like my first thought. But Now that I know. the plots. I think it's a three way spin.
Tannernow
SupsMmm. one. Mmm., I stand by the fact that this is the plot that she wishes. a Hallmark movie should be. So there's the firefighter. firefighter, sexy, Always in demand job If one brother is like that, then you need, like, contrasting brothers. So that part, like the mother randomly coming and leaving the child, but they come back. hmm. I mean, it's, it's, I don't know. Yeah,
TannerYeah. it does go against a lot of the tropes and a lot of the stereotypes you see in Hallmark. Right. And especially when you compare it to the other three, because the other three, the main character is a woman who winds up with a man, right? This is Three
SupsRight. Yeah. Which one are you
TannerI think that the third one, the Vienna one. It sounds like such a different style of movie than the other ones because like it's international. sure. And there's like different sorts of jobs, like a musician and a diplomat, Really think that Andy made up that, that Philly Vienna line. So I'm going with that one. Okay.
AndiOkay. You have picked your movies. so unfortunately Christmas in Vienna is real I don't recommend it. That was a painful watch. But I would say fortunately three wise men and a baby. Is also real. And that one was actually very entertaining.
TannerYeah,
Andiit was,
Tannerwas,
Andiit was like actually Pretty well written, like it was pretty decent. The fake movie is, I kind of think you guys should have known, because there's a movie called A Very Merry Quizmas. You didn't
Tannervery
AndiI put quiz in it! And also, it came out in 2020, because that's when I Should Have Known was founded. So, yeah, I made all that up.
TannerI had like 10
AndiYeah, so I made up the whole thing about like, Oh, if I saw this on a list, I would obviously pick it and then watch it and then be like, what? There's no like quiz in here. Like, Oh yeah. So I like made up of. Story about me imaginarily finding it on a list.
SupsSo You just blatantly
Tannerblatantly
Andiwas the game! That's how we play this game!
SupsOh my god.
Andilike, just
SupsWow, okay.
AndiLike start to finish. Every detail is not from anywhere else. I just, I
SupsI just And I want to say of all the four plots, that was like the most hallmark y plot, I would say.
Andimean, maybe that was the giveaway. Mm-Hmm.
Tannerprototypical.
Andiprototypical. Yeah. That maybe Hallmark
Supsis Ah. Ah.
Tannergot to open our minds a little bit. Oh man. I really believed
SupsIt
Andireally
Supsentertaining to
Andihave that
Supsit's
Tannerrationalized every
Supsbit
Tannerit. Even the title. the
Supsthe names. Yeah. No, no, that's why I was asking. Like, there's no trivia and Yeah,
AndiYeah, well if I said that there was trivia, then I'd like, come on, you'd know that was a fake.
TannerYeah
Andiobvious.
TannerWow, I'm so surprised
SupsYeah.
Tannerwhoo. I should have known.
Supshave known.
AndiThanks for listening to this episode of I Should Have Known. If you enjoyed this episode of Hallmark Movies, as I said, we have another one from last year that you can listen to and next week we'll be continuing with our December theme, Tanner will be telling us about December drinks, So. get ready for that. And as always,
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