The Kindness Chronicles

"Special Mother's" Day Special

John Schwietz

Our mom's join us (in studio) to reflect on motherhood with the KC Crew. 

Is for the million things she gave me. All means only that she's growing old, not that old. She is for the she. She is for heart. Is for her eyes with love. Light shining arm means right and right. You'll always be all they spell. A word that means the world to me. And welcome to a Mother's Day edition of the Kindness Chronicles where once again we hope to inject the world with the dose of the Minnesota Nice that it desperately needs. We've had a lot of big time guests on this show over the years. Yes, we have. But I think these are probably two of the most important, and it might be three. We're going to be connecting with KG here shortly, but Steve, do you want to introduce our guests? Yeah, we have, uh, the, uh, the honor to have our mothers down here. Miss Veronica, Ronnie Brown. And Mrs. Patch White. Patch White. Patch White. Often called Patch White. She gets mail that says Patch. Patch White. Patch White. So, her nickname has turned to Whitey. It was Patch. Patch. We called her Patch. We called her Whitey. It was white patch and it was white patch. This is our mother's day special show. It is. It's a very special down here in the fireside chat in the studio. What a great thing. We went and picked them both up at the home. Um, we wheeled them in here, rolled them down the stairs from their, from their home, from their home, from the home. Did I say the home? Okay, just to be clear, from their homes. Oh, this is so fun. Well, welcome, welcome, welcome. Oh, thank you. Kevin Gorg, are you on the line? I am, and I'm looking forward to the Mother's Day special this week. It's an extravaganza, actually. Everybody's talking about him. Before we do anything, we have to talk about your favorite day of the year, other than Thanksgiving. Kentucky Derby Day. How about the Derby? It was awesome. And, you know, horse racing the last couple of years, there's been some tough stories. There's been horses that have been breaking down. You know, it's kind of the tough part of the game, right? And this year, it was all about the racing. It was an unbelievable event. The race was spectacular. It had an international feel to it. With a horse named forever young, who was undefeated and in from Japan and was a part of that three horse photo and just the cool stories around it. The trainer and jockey that won the race, Kenny McPeak, the trainer, the jockey, Brian Hernandez. They aren't the superstars in the sport. They are guys that basically are living and dying at Churchill downs, local connections, big conglomerate barn and phenomenal people. So I was so happy to see them when not just on Saturday. But they won with a horse named Torpedo Anna in the Kentucky Oaks, which is the derby for the, uh, for the Phillies on Friday. So the trainer and jockey slept the weekend. It was amazingly cool. What, what kind of money will the jockey make riding the winning horse? Do they, do they get rewarded? They get 10%. And, and you know, when you run fourth or fifth, that's not much. But when you win on Friday, it's a 3 million race. So the winning owners get 60%. So let's just say, as we look at that, the winning owners got 1. 8 million. He got 180, 000 for his one in the Oaks. It gets better on Derby day with a 6 million purse. The winning connections get 3. 6 million. He gets 360, 000. He made over half a million dollars. And if you really. Think about it. This isn't factual, but it was four minutes of work, right? Two races. Now the jockey's there every morning, working the horse out, galloping the horse. I mean, he puts a lot more work in, but the real work are, are the two minutes and three seconds that the Derby took. And I think, what was the old, the minute 55, it's a little bit shorter race. Anyway, my point is, not a bad weekend for Brian Hernandez. It was a nice weekend for him. What I was amazed at was watching the number 2 and 3 horse running into each other down the stretch. if one of those horses were the winner, would there have been some question about disqualification for running into each other, or is that just Is that common? Is, is, uh Well, there's bumping. I think what, what tends to be, and that's been a big question leaving the derby is why didn't they The track referees, there are three stewards that sit high above the racetrack, and if they see something where they believe there was the type of contact that cost a horse a place, they may flash a light on called the inquiry. It's kind of like when there's a review in a hockey game for a goal or a touchdown in football where there's, you know, Five or 10 minutes where they're looking at replays and trying to decide what happened. Now, they apparently watched the replays and thought it was just what's called race riding. The real question for me is the horse on the outside, Sierra Leona 2, through all his prep races, he's a super big physical horse, but he always lugs in and runs kind of crooked in the stretch when he's And when horses straighten out, I don't want to get too inside baseball here, but they change leads and their right hoof does the leading down the stretch to help them kick it into gear. But he always leans left. And that's what I thought happened. And the question mark that we all had after the derby was why didn't the jockey of the 11 horse who was in that sandwich in between the winning horse and Sierra Leone, why didn't he claim foul? And then. It came out that part of the culture in Japan is after a race, you tip your hat. If you're not victorious and you move about your business, there's no sour grapes, because it's a completely different order of business here in the state. So I still think the steward should have looked at it. It looked like enough contact when it comes down to three noses on the wire that, you know, second and third, there's a big difference there financially, but uh, they kept it up. And I'm just glad the horse that won did because I didn't I didn't think it would have been great to see a big long yeah above changing who won. I mean the horse that won the race won the race was involved in any of that and part of that certainly were two horses trying to get to the same spot at the same time and there's going to be some, Some light bumping, but I thought the, uh, the outside horse Sierra Leon did lean in more on that. The, uh, the Japanese horse, which I felt might've cost him a chance to win, but the stewards deemed that it was all good and they made the race official a couple of minutes after they crossed the wire. did you watch it John? Did you watch the game? I did, but I'm now watching my mother open a mint on the podcast and it is so loud. Oh, you can hear me open the mint? Yes! Well then I'll, no. You can put the mint in now the damage has been done. It's not that loud though. It was so loud. John you're making my mom nervous now. I should get some tinfoil so you can crumple the tin. Do you have any bubble gum? You can start popping bubbles. Okay. I didn't hear a thing, Josh. Yeah, she's fine. That was fun. Uh, that was our fun sports segment. Thank you, uh, very much for, uh, for, for that. What an exciting weekend. It was an exciting weekend. It was very fun. And enough about that. Yeah, I guess. It's Mother's Day. He kind of got upset here, didn't he? Coming up this weekend. Sorry. Mother and I will be having a chat about this when the show is all over. Podcast. Candy. I'm teasing. I get in trouble when I chew gum too. So it's just what he does. We love our mothers. We do. We do indeed. And this, Mr. Brown, Steve, this was Steve's idea. He said, what if we got our moms. to come and do the show with us in honor of Mother's Day. Last minute call, but, but, well, you know what? Very timely and very, very important. It's like the most important. What would we be without our mothers? We wouldn't be nothing. This is true. This is true. Yeah. So first I would like, because You're the senior member of the mother patrol here this evening. That's code for mom. You are younger than this other woman that we're talking to. She looks fantastic. There's no doubt about it. Those, uh, those Browns, uh, they're very attractive people. They're very attractive. Every one of them. Well, I am in the business of making people feel good about it. I am Irish. Yes, indeed. I would like to interview your mom. Yeah. And then you could interview my mom. That's great. So the first question that I have is, you have how many children? Five. You have five children. Which one is your favorite? No, we don't have to ask that one. We won't ask that question. Mom, you can just say it now. It's okay. No one else listens but you and I. You can say it. I love you all. Oh, there you go. I love you all. That's the proper answer. She's right. I love you all. All kidding aside though, you know, being the mother to five children is a lot of work. It is. It's a lot of work. It is. And I want to know, do your children show you the kind of appreciation that you're entitled to? That's the first question. Yes, they do. They're good kids, aren't they? They're wonderful kids. I know a couple of them. I can't say enough about all of them. He knows two of them. I know two of them. I graduated with Dan. And then Steve was a couple of years behind me. But they were always such good guys. And I think that starts with Mom. I cannot tell you how many times. Well, the boys are so good. I've got three boys. And Dan and Steve especially. I mean, if I need anything. You know, they're right there. Always. I want to talk specifically about Steve. Is Steve your youngest or second youngest? He's the second youngest, second youngest. I'm a little sister. Four years younger, yes. Shannon's, Shannon's the baby. Okay. He's the second youngest. For a moment there I thought, oh. We didn't talk about Cletus. He's younger than all of you. Tell us about some of your, your fondest memories of Steve as a, as a little boy. Oh my God. He was very musical. He did the Elvis thing when he was ten years old. I made him an Elvis Presley costume with the studs and um, the whole Elvis Presley. You told us about it, but I, I, I mean, I thought that maybe that was hyperbole. Like you were actually dressed up like Elvis. Get into it a little bit. I'll have a picture to show these guys. Oh yeah. a friend of ours was turning 40 and they had an adult Elvis Presley impersonator. Yeah. Yeah. And that didn't work. So Steve agreed to do it. He was 10 years old. So I, I spent a lot of time. Sorry, mom. I spent a lot of time. I loved up. I saw Elvis when I was five, the neighbors brought us to see me and one of the friends, five year old, six year old kid, whatever we were, we watched Elvis at Met Center. Mets Center. Met Center, yep. That's correct. I, the Met Center. So I was a big Elvis fan, so I, they bought me the albums and I used to listen to the room. I used to do a Elvis impersonation in the mirror. That's where this started. That's why she's like, Hey you wanna do this for my friend's party? That's so, so I have a question, Steve, did I ask, sorry, I'll stop. Ask you the question, your mom. No, I want just your mom clarify. I wanna clarify. This is a Mother's Day edition. So clearly, he's helping me, but he is, he's a good boy. He put on, they, he had this band, they had guitars and he would put on little shows for all the kids in the neighborhood. And, um, and he continues doing that today. He does. He does. Yeah. Let me just, just stop on the Elvis thing then for one more second. So. She's, I recently talked to my wife about this, we laughed about this all the time, but she is maybe responsible for my entertainment career. Okay. Um, because not only did she ask me if I wanted to do this fun little birthday party impersonator Elvis, she made me an entire Elvis outfit. She, she just told us that. We spray, but I mean, hold on, spray painted my hair black, sideburns, and this is it. O M G. And Dan was his bodyguard. That is Now this isn't great for, for a podcast. It's just for you to You should post that on Facebook so people can see that. That is fantastic. When we post the show like last week with the uh, the jiggler, post that picture with the show so we can show how much love, um, Ronald Brown had to feed to help him recreate Elvis. Yeah, I just had to tell you that. Okay. I know it. He was, uh, he was quite the guy. He's He was fun. He was a joy. He was always happy. always. Always. And that's, that, you know, we, we talk about, uh, this program that we're doing about your brand. Your personal brand. And Steve Brown's brand. Not banned. Steve Brown's brand. That's kind of hard to say. He was always just a joyful, happy, good dude. He came out smiling. That was him. Did he have the great head of hair when he came out? Uh. No, I was kind of bald I think. No. it's coming. Well, yeah. Congratulations. Staying with me for now. His dad had a thick, heavy hair. Yes. And Dan, my brother's got a good set of hair too. Yeah. Dan does too. Tony, the oldest one is losing his, but he's still a good person. He's still a good person. Less is more people. Ronnie, where did you grow up? Uh, in Tanner's Lake. Tanner's Lake. Okay. we went to North St. Paul High School. Okay. Where did you meet Mr. Brown? I met him Earl. Earl, at Jerry's Drive In. Oh, no way! Yep, that was our hangout. Jerry's Drive In. Oh, yeah. Did you hang around there too? Oh, yeah! Onion rings, fried chickens. Pork chops. The chicken was good. Pork chop sandwich. Pizza burgers. Yeah. Jerry Folks. Those were the good old days. It was! That's where people hung out. Right on White Bear Avenue there. Yep. And Larpender. Yep, yep. And now there's a Walgreens there. Yes. God. I know. KG, did you ever go to Jerry's Drive In? Have you ever heard of Jerry's? No, but it sounds fabulous. Oh, you would have loved Jerry's. It was started out, was it Henry's or did it turn into Henry's? No, it was Jerry's. It was Jerry's, but then after Jerry's folded up, it might've turned into Henry's. Well, Oh, I don't, I don't know that. Do you need Prevagen? No, no, no, no, no. It turned into Henry's. Um, so anyway, so you guys met at Jerry's? We did. Yeah. So were you there having a soda or how did it? I was with, uh, um, a couple of girls. Okay. And. My husband knew one of the drivers of, of the car and, uh, he said that he, he said to Judy that he wanted to take me out, wanted to know if I wanted to go out with him. Well, so I said, yeah, I just broke it up with my boyfriend. I said, sure, no problem. Well, that was. That was the end of that. That was the end and the rest is history. That was the beginning of that. Yeah. Yeah. The rest is history. And when did we lose Mr. Brown? 2017. 2017. I have heard just wonderful things about your dad. You would have loved him. That's what everybody says. Yeah. Um, Happy in Irish. Well, we'll be talking about Earl for our Father's Day episode of the event. Tell us about some of your favorite memories of being a mom. Like your proudest moments and they don't all have to be about Steve. You don't have to talk about me anymore. Oh my gosh. If you leave out one of the kids, they're probably going to feel offended, but they don't listen, so too bad for them. Steve playing at the caboose, caboose. We went to hear, they had 900 people there. Holy cow. I went to hear him, and I couldn't see. And there was so many people, and so, I was, we were near the wall. So, I stood up on the chair and I got on the table so I could see. And so the, the, Bouncers? bouncers. Yeah. When the bouncers got a lady, you got to get off that table there and I said, Oh, okay. You know, it didn't man didn't matter that, you know, it's Johnny Clueless was my son, my son. I had to get off the table. They don't care that you're related to the lead. He's worried about your safety. I'm with the band. I am with the band. Oh, that was fun. Um, that's, that's a proud mom moment. Oh, I guess. Oh gosh. Yeah. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. Play to, yeah. A crowd that big. That was, it was fun. And you were just recently at his show, at the, uh, like front and center, the dugout, as I recall. The dugout march. Yes. I was, so here's a question. Ha. Have your, has your hearing been damaged as a result of all of this rockstar? Uh, it might have been.'cause might've been because might've a couple times we sat right in front of the speakers right at dug out. I don't know how you do it. Not a good spot. It's, oh, not a hard good spot. You know, my head is still ringing. But that might be from other things. Well, yeah. So now I would like to ask Steve a couple questions about his mom. Tell me about some of your favorite memories of your mom. Well, my mom, my mom and dad were a very fun couple. I think very much probably like your mom and dad. And they had these great, so the 40th birthday party thing. They had these great 40th birthday parties that they would put on for their friends. So 40. Back in the 70s or 80s was like is 50 now or something I don't it changed but it was like over the hill and like say that they would play these elaborate parties and So my mom and dad took part in a lot of like great things they did It was almost like a like a roast party in a way They would make their friends do silly stuff and and really celebrating them, but they Put together these elaborate meet they have meetings and stuff in secret so big surprise party So I guess what I'm getting to is she's a fun person she and she loved Decorating us for Halloween and you know monster like you'd love putting on makeup for us like Frankenstein or Dracula like You loved the theatrics of it putting make Elvis costume. You loved You're a fun mom. You're a very fun mom. You like fun craziness. And we had a fun, we grew up in, out in the country a little bit, so we had, we had music loud and I got to practice in the garage. And you grew up in Mata Midi. Yeah. Uh, for Michael Dempsey, he always says we have to mention Mata Midi, Hillmurray, St. Thomas. Michael, that's for you. That's the bingo card. that's one thing about her and being a mom. She was a fun mom. So I've, I've passed on trying to be a fun dad, but I will say there's two qualities that of all the qualities I was thinking about you, you are an incredibly kind going with our show and compassionate friend. You're the best friend to your friends. She has had friends since high school. And even to this day, she's helping making food for her friends. She's, she's got a lot of friends that are having, you know, that stage in life where they're, they're needing lots of help and assistance and this woman will be. cooking onions at eight in the morning, getting prepared to make something big later on and all these specialty. She has specialty food that she makes. She's a little Italian woman. So her love language is food. It always has been. So, so she is a very compassionate and she, this is the kind of friend you want. You bet. When you get older. Well, thanks guys. That lady right there. Okay. So that's one thing. The other thing is, she taught me something about. kind of sense of humor. But she taught me about, um, being able to make fun of yourself or be okay with yourself. Yeah! She's the first one to You know, make self deprecation in the best way where it's like makes everyone comfortable and she's always done that I learned that from from her early on too Well, and and I can see that in you and just to be to be clear I asked Eve is your mom someone who qualifies to be on the kindness Chronicles or do we need to reserve it for the Krabby? But no, that's lovely I have a couple of real quick questions that I would like to we have to get to Yeah, we've been doing this for you. She'll get her 15 minutes. We'll give my, my mother 15 minutes. Okay. Dogs or cats, dogs, hockey or basketball hockey, Steve or Dan? He tried to slip that one in. Try it to default. Dan's going to listen to you. He'll be listening. Almost got it. Mata Midi or Woodbury. Monday night. Excellent. Oh, yeah. Very nice. Hill Murray or North St. Paul. Ooh. Ooh. North St. Paul. Okay. She's a cheerleader. Roots. Oh, a cheerleader. Yeah, Yeah, go Polars. Yeah, go Polars. Very nice. You can talk. Go ahead. Can I talk? Yeah, you can talk. Let's hear it. You gotta talk into the mic, though. Uh, okay. So, North St. Paul cheerle Sandy Anderson. I know Sandy Anderson. Here we go. That's my sister in law's sister. Patch White's sister. Sandy Anderson. And she's got a sister named Diane. Diane Conlon. Yes. That's one of her good friends. Well, that's my, my sister. Sister in law, also Patchwhite. Her name is Patchwhite. And she's married to a guy named Patchwhite. No. Yeah, there are three Patchwhites. That's too confusing. Christmas is, it got very confusing with the gifts. You're kidding. Pat, Patty, and Pat. How about Rita Persichalli? She's my sister. Is she the one that lives up on Bass Lake? Yeah. Okay. The world just exploded. Ladies and gentlemen, I knew there'd be a connection there. Hold on. This is my mother. Yes. Okay. Before you continue, this is what my mother does everywhere we go. She is the greatest connector. And we make fun of her to her face and behind her back. Oh But we always find one, right? No, we always admire the fact that you are able to make connections anywhere you go. It's shocking. And what's really funny is people make fun of me for doing the exact same thing. Well, you do the same thing, John. He works the room. Yeah, I know. the world like the mayor of Montamini. I have every restaurant and every bar. I mean, you're your mother's son and that's probably a good thing. So when we're done with this, you guys can break down Bass Lake. You can talk about Sandy Anderson, all those things. But Steve, why don't you ask my mother a few questions? Okay. So, so please state your name. It's Pat White. Pat White. And you guys, you guys have how many children? we have two, John and Kate. John and Kate. John is the oldest. John's the oldest. Yeah, Kate's four years younger. And you raised, raised these guys in, uh, St. Paul? Is St. Paul right? Uh, started out In the hood, Maple Hood. No, no, actually it started out right off of White On Nebraska. For four years, then we moved to Maplewood, right behind Marriott Chevrolet. Okay. And we lived there for 12 years, and then we moved to, um, back to Ramsey County, St. Paul, Um, kind of over by Battle Creek area for, I don't know, how long were you there? Twenty five years, twenty six years maybe. Yup. And then moved out to White Bear. Okay. Probably about fifteen years ago. They wanted to be closer to their children. Interesting, yeah, interesting that you guys We all aspired to be Mata Midi, White Bear people. Okay, I'm, now again, I'm interviewing your mom, maybe you can just try to See, I didn't, I didn't think I could talk when you were talking. The door swings both ways. Because there was many things I wanted to talk about. No, no, no. KG, feel free to jump in here if you want, but I want to ask you. I'm just entertained by all of this, this is great. So, so Well I took, I took KG's, uh, cousin to my junior prom. No, you took her, his uncle. His uncle. That would be his uncle, Gus. Uncle David. Well, yeah, Dave, but we call him Gus. Gus, we call him Gus. Yeah. Okay. You're kidding. Yeah, absolutely, what a small world. It's crazy. I was in Gus's wedding. Right. Right. He's a gentleman. He's a great guy. Of the three Gorg brothers, like, my dad's a handful. Uncle Ronnie, the youngest, was a real troublemaker. Uncle David was the real good guy of the three. I mean, they're all good guys, but he was the most, like, well behaved and respectful. Speaking of good guys, um, what was it like to raise the, your, you're first born? What, tell me a little bit about your first Born Born as his mother from his mother's perspective. You know, I was really never, um, a fan. I mean, I was a, no, no. I was a nurse. I mean, I was a nurse for years. But you what? Tell, tell him about when I was a baby. Well, you were crying all the time. All the time. So I worked at St. Joe's Hospital and we were, all of us were pregnant at the same time, and we would all get together with our babies and they voted John being the cutest baby. Oh. But the crab ast girl. Wow. Oh boy. He was up every two. He never slept a night. Oh boy. Until he was about 16, two and a half and oh my God. He just, it was like. Two and a half years old at one point. I would take a a paper bag. Wait a second No, it was a little paper so I could tell when he was awake he would crinkle it He'd be crinkling the paper bag, but he he never slept a night, but he was always really an easy kid You're a real nice kid aside from that though, huh? He was may I interject something real quick? Um, I think that one of the reasons that I was a crabby child is just frankly, I have a low threshold for discomfort. I still do. Yeah, you do. Yeah, that's funny. Like when I go to the dentist, I have to get gas even when they clean my teeth. Really? No, I'm serious. So that's it, yeah. Maybe there was something irritating, maybe even something slight. Yeah, I think I'm just very sensitive. Well, I kept feeding you though, and I think you might have had some stomach problems. Yeah. Okay, so a paper bag, crunching a paper bag, somehow to, I didn't know that story. We're learning things. Okay. At least it wasn't a plastic bag. No, no, no. Don't play with this kid. No plastic bag. But I could hear, I would hear the plastic bag, or the paper bag click. So John is obviously a, a, an amazing guy. Thank you. A big, a big shot. Right? Oh yes. How, when he was in, maybe in junior high, cause I knew him in high school, in junior high. We talk about you in high school a lot. Yeah, how was what kind of when I was in junior high? He was nice He was a good kid. Yeah, and I just I have no complaints about him. Kind of a surprise? No, I mean he just, the whole time he's been very easy to raise. Both of my kids were really easy to raise. I don't think, I don't think I ever even got close to giving you a baby. A spanking. Oh, well, I would hope not. You know, that could get you in big trouble with the county. No, but I would tell you that I was going to call the cops. But, but that was more, you're going to call the cops on Kate. That's right. Oh, well, you know, it's like, that was the only thing that kept them calm. I'd say, okay, I'm calling the cops. We never got that. We just, we got, we got, sorry. We got the, I'm going to wait till your dad gets home, but we were way more scared of my mom than my dad. She's about four foot six. Well, she had a spoon that she threatened to she don't cover and go. You know, but we never never got to get older. We're like, wait a minute. This is she was never gonna hit us with the spoon I just have to tell you a quick story about my sister. Yeah. Yeah, because this was so my mom I remember many times when Kate and I would be fighting in the backseat and you would say I'm gonna pull over and you guys Are gonna walk home and I would be terrified by that. So say I was like eight and Kate was four Yeah, I would be like, oh god. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And you know what Kate would say? Go ahead. Wow. Yeah. She goes, let's see it. I mean, I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you. Right? She was four years old. She had no fear. She had no fear whatsoever. Okay, so legally you had to, you had to put the law on her to really calm her down. Well, let's get back to John. Okay. So he was a nice, easygoing kid. Obviously must be something to do with your parenting techniques. You guys must have been pretty easy, level headed kind of people. Well, I used to have a, well, I don't know. I don't think there was ever really too many problems. Well, there was never any pressure. You never put any pressure on me. In fact, so little pressure. Like what is your famous saying? When I would come home and say. You know, I think I might've gotten a B on that exam. What would be your response? I don't know. So what, you know, I, my famous saying is, is if if at first you don't succeed, quit. Right. Which, if I told that, is that a Ziggy No. That's what she would say to my children. Yeah. And I say you, if they had a baseball, very easy going. Yeah. Very laid back. That's great. I mean, that's. It's like, who cares? So what? Both you and dad, I'll never forget. I'm in law school, and I'm stressed out, and both of them would say, What are you worried about? You know, the person who graduates last in class gets the same diploma as the one who graduates first. And I'd say, I don't think you're supposed to say that! So maybe John, maybe this is some serious Psychology. She's doing reverse psychology, reverse psychology, smarter than we've ever given her credit for. No, I got plenty of credit. That's right. Yeah. You got a lot of credit. Wow. So, so then, then he came out here and came out here first and then he followed you. Yeah. We were out here first. Okay. So now as a dad, are you, what's your, what, what's in your heart when you see this guy with his kids, his beautiful family? Yeah. I mean, he's just. I, I, I don't know. I think just a perfect dad. I mean, I've been, I'm really proud of my kids. Okay, let's turn this into the mom thing. Maybe you should ask me some questions about my mother. Clearly. No, I mean, my kids are fine. There's really, there's really never been, there's really no drama ever. So yeah, that's what I'm getting to is you're, you, you have a laid back style. And I do. I don't think. Reverse psychologically encouragement. Well, I just thought at least if you say, if at first you don't succeed, quit, then you're going to think, well, she says I can quit, but then what if I quit? Then, then what? Yeah. So it is kind of. So, okay. So let's go back with you then. Where did you grow up? Group, kind of up by Hillcrest Golf Course. Okay. Um, actually, the golf course, um, I think we were like the third house before you would get to the golf course. I mean, it was just open field on Ivy and, uh, kind of Ruth. Yeah. My dad was a carpenter. Okay. Built, built our house. I think the first, you know, he never, he would never charge anything. He would, everything he had to pay cash for. Never had a bill. Never had a bill. So, he, we lived in the basement of the foundation. His dad, his parents were from Sweden. Oh, okay. My mother actually was from Ireland. Um, Ireland. Well, after she died, we found out she was from Scotland, but she was really easy. They were, they were the perfect parents. Yeah. Always going to camp and accordion lessons. Oh, any camp, Girl Scout camp. She played accordion too. I played accordion. Wait a second. She still does. You have to ask me a question about that. I think we should have a podcast. I think so too. We'll get some people from the east side. A spinoff podcast. We'll call it Two Old Birds from What about you? What about the accordion? So I, one of my favorite lasting memories, and I talked to Kate about this, my sister earlier today. Is my mother too was awfully fun. She would have a lot of parties at our house Yeah, there would be i'll never forget like the smoke billowing Down the hallway and me like putting towels underneath the door. No jack would go to work and then the girlfriends would come over, and we would smoke till he got home at 11. 30. And then they'd all leave, but the house would be, it was like a Cheech and Chong thing. Just sick with smoke. But we would have these neighborhood parties, and my mother Would end up taking out her accordion and, honest to God, one of my, my, my fondest memory, I don't know if it's a fond memory, but it's a very, indelible, yeah, you weren't fond, stuck in your brain, she, laying in the middle of Ferndale Street, playing her accordion for all of the neighbors dancing. Well, then John Kluge played the played the piano part of the accordion. And then I would do the bellows. Wow. But you know, we'd have some beer, you know. Yeah, I know. Roll out the barrel. You're like Brett Kavanaugh. You told me, I like beer. I like beer. Roll out the barrel. I like a beer. That's great. Oh, that's fun. That sounds fun. Yeah. I would like to talk about a couple things. one of the things that my mom is also famous for is spending probably way too much money on clothing. I never had to worry about for you for and for her but for her But everything's everything's a deal every she always says I got that for six bucks at blah blah blah Yeah, same goes shopping all the time. But as a kid, I always had like nice stuff and she always said You know, you don't want to go walking around looking like a dope. that was her big saying. And what's really funny is we have incorporated that into raising our children and my wife, Becky. when we're out and we're like, I mean, should we really buy that, that, that jacket? It's really expensive. Sweater at Walgreens? Yeah. Not at Walgreens. At a different store. And she goes, well, we don't want our kids walking around looking like a dope. I think that my mom and dad sacrificed a lot of things so we wouldn't look like dopes. Oh yeah. I don't think that the not using a charge card like grandpa rubbed off on you. I think that you like to get out there with your Marshall Fields card or your Dayton's card. And just have fun. But we always looked good. I also, I always had a nice haircut. You always made sure that I had a nice haircut. I just want to look nice. You want to look, you want to look nice. But my mother, my mother who was actually an orphan and she, I think she was orphaned when she was about twelve and then left with a nine year old, a five, and a two year old. Siblings. Siblings. Not children. That would have been her siblings. But she ended up in the orphanage and the nuns actually, um, really liked her. She was very Irish and real cute. And I think that she was a woman that had a very positive attitude. I mean I can remember her ironing. Uniform shorts when I was at archbishop murray, you know She had a very positive happy outlook and I think it just rubs off my dad, too My dad was just um, he loved to dance He used to dance in the living room. Oh god tiny hill. We were listening. Was he the irish one or he was swedish His parents were from sweden. Okay, so they Lived over by lake phalen on orange, orange and arcade. Okay. But, um, no, I think it's been a pretty awesome life so far. I mean, we're just getting started. Yeah. Yeah. But it really has. And I'm grateful. Grateful for that. Me too. The, uh, the other thing about my mom is she always, has been so good to my children. Always very encouraging of all of your grandchildren. you've got five grandchildren, there's not a dud in the bunch. No, they're all good. Everybody's good. But that's, not a dud in the bunch, there's some duds out there. Yeah. There are. there's duds in every family or every couple of families. We've been pretty fortunate. Oh, yeah. That's for sure. We're gonna go to KG now. KG, tell us about your mom. Mary Gorg, um Is a saint. Has been. And, well, she's, uh, she's always been a caregiver. She was beautiful when she was young. She's still beautiful. Well, I mean, I don't know her now, but I knew her many years ago. Would you let Kevin talk, please? Okay, I'm gonna let Kevin talk. He's a broadcaster for God's sakes. She had to move on here. She was pretty hip as a youngster, but uh You know, she, um, my dad was a golf pro. And so summers he was gone. Like it was, uh, a job where he was down in Faribault about a half hour from Burnsville, long days. And she took care of everything. Uh, when we were in school at the Catholic grade school that we went to, she volunteered as the secretary of the school. At that school and kept a close eye on my, my two sisters and I, and just, she's still the same person today. Like, you know, my aunt has early onset dementia and my dad is to a point now where he's got neuropathy and come back issues. So he really doesn't get around well. And she's taking care of those two and she's in her early to mid eighties and she's still cooking up these meals and making sure they're okay. She's always been that person. And that's my memories from childhood. Always getting us to whether it was school or sports, um, at the games, at the hockey camps, just always there for her family. And, you know, um, later in life we had a, a business, my dad opened up a golf shop in, uh, in Burnsville while he was still finishing up in Faribault as the, The golf pro down there. So she managed that facility and did all the books and, you know, it's always been family first and, you know, we've, they've got eight grandkids. Three of those grandkids are my daughters and they have an amazing relationship with their grandkids. It's been really fun to watch that. And just, you know, mother's day for me is, is a special day on the calendar. And we always, uh, kind of get together at the house I grew up in and. Try to do something nice for mom, but we, a lot of times we'll bring food. Um, sometimes we'll cook it for her, but most times we're bringing like buka, she loves buka, so we'll do something like that on, uh, on Sunday and then celebrate her because she's the glue that kept our family together forever. It really is remarkable how you kind of become your parents. I have a question about, about your mom, Kevin is, uh, is she a big sports fan? I don't think she always was, but she has become one and she's always, she's always loved the Gophers and the Green Bay Packers. Those were her two, you know, her two teams go for football. Green Bay Packers and Gopher football revolved around Ray Christensen. You know, Saturdays were always about chores around the house and fixing stuff and raking leaves. And she always had the radio on. She loved Gopher football. And then, you know, going back to the Bart Starr era, she just loved Bart Starr and the Green Bay Packers. But because I played hockey and she never missed a game, she became a big hockey fan. And of course now she, she loves the Minnesota wild and. Uh, tries to either watch or listen to every game and you know, she's become a big fan of that. I don't think she always was way into sports as a youngster, but when you marry a golf pro and, and uh, you know, your kids are involved in sports, it kind of changes the way you look at it. Does she ever give you feedback when she watches you on TV? My dad does. Uh, my mom thinks everything I do is, you know, that was just great. You know, my dad is a little more critical sometimes of, Some of the questions or whatever. He's, he's very, they're both very, very supportive and always have been, but, uh, it was the same thing growing up after a hockey game, you know, my dad would want to critique some of the goals I let in. My mom was just, you know, Happy I got out of there in one piece. I'll never forget, uh, the year I played junior hockey in Des Moines. I played for, uh, the Des Moines Buccaneers in the USHL and we were horrible. It was good for me because I got to see a ton of shots and I really developed my skills after kind of being a passenger and a really good team in high school. But they did, they had done a story on, on me and my quirkiness when I was in high school, uh, Channel 4 did. Then they came down to do the follow up in Des Moines. They come to this game, we're playing the first place team and. I let in like seven goals in the first half of the game, and I, and I get the Shepherd's hook, I get pulled out of the game. Oh no. So I'm on the bench, mic'd up for sound, second half of the game, I'm literally just opening up the gate, letting my teammates come on the ice, you know, it's kind of embarrassing, right? And so they're interviewing my, my parents during the game, and I'm just getting shelled, and they're showing these highlights, and the guys are crashing it, the pucks are going in, it's a disaster, and you know, my dad's like, yeah, this is really tough to watch. They put the mic in front of my mom, she has the rosary in her hand, she goes, Yeah. We're just hoping he gets outta here in one piece. Oh God. That's the, the rosary out. The whole thing. She had the Rosa out, had the rosary course. She always did that. Every game. Every game. She had the rosary, her hand. That's good. Sweet. That was kind of her thing. Keeping you safe. Yeah. Oh, sweet. The parting comment that I have regarding my mother and I wanted to save this for the end. is there has never been a better caretaker than my mom. She is a nurse so it helps that she is a professional but my dad has had many ailments over the years and she is Johnny on the spot. She's, dressing wounds, she's, getting the medication going and making sure that he's doing this, that, and the next thing. And anytime I'm remotely sick, she's over here with a grocery bag full of saltines, Sprite, Coke, a bottle of Coke, because you gotta have real Coke. Um, she brings over tissues, I think that you're at your best when we're at our worst. I mean, seriously. Oh, that's so sweet. No, I've had, I used to have a situation where I would have these panic attacks. And I would spend many days over the years in the emergency room having panic attacks. And I'll never forget. On New Year's Eve, 1999, biggest party night of the year, I had a pretend heart attack that night. Oh. Remember that? You didn't want to go to the party? I, you know, I don't know what the anxiety was, but I, I rang in the new millennium at St. John's Hospital with my mom and dad by my side. Wow. Yep. Did your mom give you a paper bag? Can't remember that. Oh, I was there. You were there. Yeah. She gave me a paper bag to crumple. Then you felt better. Yes. But I do remember one last, one last memory is probably my earliest memory of my entire life. is on the house that we lived at in Nebraska. I think we were there until I was like three or four. Maybe four. Sitting at the top of the steps. I would get out of my crib and come downstairs because I think my dad was watching North Star Hockey and I wanted to watch the hockey game. And, uh, You must have brought me upstairs 25 times. You would never go to bed. I couldn't go to bed. And I was very nimble. And I could get out of that crib like you wouldn't believe. And then you would write little, little like stick men on the walls. I, well, it was, it was sort of like, you know how like when people are in prison. Yeah, and they put like the, the little hash marks. Shawshank Redemption. Yeah, it was my own Shawshank Redemption. But no, I love you mother. You have been a great mom. Thank you. And, um, Steve, I'm sure you've got a couple of final comments. I, I, I'm, I will say the same thing. It's such a, it's so fun to have you here, mom. I love you so much. You are the greatest mom to five children and all of our grandchildren. Same kind of thing. She's dropped everything to her and my sister have watched our kids and she's, she will sacrifice everything and it's amazing. So all the love that I could possibly give you, you're the greatest. Well, it was. Just absolutely wonderful doing that. We babysat all the grandkids until they went to school, went to grade, yeah, to kindergarten. That was the best thing. It was really fun. I was, I didn't have to go to work until, Oh, I retired. Yeah, you retired. I retired. To watch your kids with our kids. Yeah, you with your kids. That's when I started still. That's a lot of work, man. And the fact that you sacrificed that is that was the best thing. Did we? We still did because we're grandparents now when we think about that and go, man, yeah, it was fun. That's we, we asked a lot of you guys. And the kids will have that forever too, so it's, it's amazing. So thank you. Well, happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Yes. And, uh, go cherish your mom and, and show her the kindness that she's given a, a portion. Give her a portion of the kindness that she's given you all her you want to try that one more time That just you know, I know you're a little choked up right now. No, I'm trying to pull it together I always want to have you're having a stroke. I always try to make it come together. I can never do that And john would know. Yeah kg. Um, give your mother a big squeeze for us and uh with that off we go So we realized that this, uh, episode did not include any Seinfeld references and. Speaking of mothers, there were a couple of classic mothers on, uh, on the Seinfeld show. Mrs. Costanza. Mrs. Costanza, Mrs. Seinfeld. Yeah. You know, just so much fun. But KG, you have a Seinfeld reference. Uh, why don't you tell us the one that came to your mind that, uh, that we failed to execute on while we were talking. Well, hearing about you, you know, Baby Schweitz and the brown paper bag. Yeah. I thought of my favorite Seinfeld episode which of course is the Merv Griffin episode and how when they're talking about uh putting her to sleep with the crypt of fan and the wine George has his home movies on. And they noticed that George is wandering around in a diaper and they said, well, you look kind of big for a toddler or a baby. No, I was, I was like seven. And they're like, what? Seven? And he's in the whole movies in his diaper. So I kept thinking about that as like baby Jon Stewart. You know, with this brown paper bag. Sneaking downstairs. To be clear, I was out of my diaper by kindergarten. Okay? I might be back in diapers before I'm 65, but that's a different situation. Alright, so there's your Seinfeld. Deck it out. There's your Seinfeld reference for ya. Goodbye. Bingo. Thank you for having us on. Love you Steve. Absolutely. Very fun guys. Nice to meet you. Love you, John. Yeah, Now you guys can talk about Happy Mother's Day ladies, Sandy Anderson. Happy. Thank you. Bye guys. Byebye. Bye. And off we go boys..