Kevin's "Criminal Chronicles"

From MN Nice to True Confessions. The positive side of bad choices.

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Hi! Welcome to the Kindness Chronicles, where we hope to inject the world with a dose of the Minnesota nice that it desperately needs. I'm John Schweitz. I'm here with my friend Steve Brown. Hi, Steve. I feel like you have a little attitude in that introduction. Well, I think in our last show that you talked about my sarcasm, so I'm just gonna pour it on. And Kevin Gordon, how are you today? Hi! Hi, so great to hear from you. This is, uh, this is the second edition of our Minnesota Nice show. And, uh, okay, so that was the sarcasm that we were talking about in the last show. I have caught myself in the last week. Yeah, I am too sarcastic and I need to work on it. Yeah, that's kind of who you are. If you do it, if you do it to charm people and use your comedic timing properly, it's good, but I'm sure you throw some people off and put some people off. Right. With your. Yeah. Banter. I probably, it is a little off putting. You know the great line about off putting. No. You guys ever seen Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis? Yeah. Jennifer Lawrence. It's super he said to Jennifer, Your, attitude is off putting. And she said, You should be off putting. Is that a fat joke? Is that a fat joke? That's a Gordo joke. You should, Al Gordo. Yeah, good, good, nice callback from last week. Yeah, I've been thinking about Al Gordo. I'd love to go back there. New York Elmo. Yeah, I was watching the, uh, the Fox News, program. It just happened to be on. Yeah. I'm not, you know, we're not going to get into Fox News. Well, there it is. Yep. And they had a shot of Times Square. And what's crazy is, is there's not just one Elmo. There are Elmos everywhere. I mean, it's almost like a, like a scene from The Walking Dead with all these filthy Elmos walking around. And there's Batman. Yeah. That, that guy in his underpants, you know, with the guitar cowboy, cowboy guy, this, this cowboy was not like the first cowboy. This is a guy who, uh, he might want to think about putting some pants on, maybe a shirt, maybe a long coat, be that cowboy, not the naked cowboy. But the reason I bring this up, um, we talked last week about how much fun it is to watch. Like the Olympics opening ceremony when they were in the rain and the, the open, the golf tournament with in the rain. And here's, the Elmos and all those guys, it is pouring out. So imagine what those. Disgusting costumes must smell like, what Elmo? Yeah. And I'm sure they're going to the Plaza hotel to their penthouse. That's terrible. I wonder how much they make, but honestly, I don't know how crowded it is. I know many people are down there on a daily basis and clearly. They're probably making a lot more than we think. They're, they have to, that's hard work. Well, that's a, that's hard work, man. The, the bit is they're, you, you walk by them, you're entertained with the, the, the whimsy of them in a costume, and then they go, Hey, do you want a picture? And then they, they, they expect you to charge you for that. So you can't, you can't take a photo of them and then like, you know, expect it for free. That's, that's the whole point. That's where they make their money, right. They get like five bucks a photo, I think. Right. But what's fun is, is, you know, because we're, we're kind of becoming cashless. They have little cards that you can scan their, uh, their little Venmo account and you can Venmo money to them now. Unbelievable. It's high tech, high tech Elmo. Yeah. You know? We were talking about Minnesota nice in the last episode and kind of the, the positive and negative aspects of it, how it could be negative. And we never really got into the core of the good side. It's the good side. We didn't talk about that enough. And we also had a, uh, a listener challenge that we, we needed to follow up on. There was a listener challenge that Steve posed through the gauntlet down through the guy, a couple of, a couple of shows, a couple of shows ago. So let's go back to Minnesota. Nice. Yeah. KG. Uh, what have you been up to the last week? Did you experience any Minnesota? Nice. I did, you know, a week ago when we recorded that last show, it was the same day we took my dad in for his annual physical and my dad's going to be 85 this summer. He's got some, some serious health issues, including what we think might be early onset Parkinson's. And is this a hip violation bringing that up? No, it's not. It's family. And you know what? I got to throw some love the way of the caregivers, um, here in Minnesota specifically, but everywhere. You know, my aunt was a nurse at Children's in St. Paul for 42 years, and just watching the way they handled him with care when we took him in. You know, it's a tough situation. You know, we've all seen our, you know, different things with our family and our parents specifically. You know, John, you dealt with this about a month ago. But these people do this every single day. They get out of bed every day and they see all this tough stuff. And I was at this Allianz clinic in Burnsville with my mother and father. And, and there were a lot of other people going through some issues there. And just the amount of kindness in that building from the doctors to the nurse practitioners, to everybody that greets you there and helps you with the next appointment, I got to tell you, that's a, that's a heavy job, man, every day. You're seeing people at their, probably their worst or close to their worst, and to, to do it with love and to do it with compassion. Um, it's, it's a hell of a thing. And, uh, so anyway, I just, I, it, it struck me as, as part of that theme for our show where, you know, it makes you feel good, right? That we have people that are so gifted, so talented to care so much because when it's your, when it's your family member, it means so much to you. And, and I, I don't know how they do it. I really don't. So taken back by, uh, by the affection and love that they gave. Yeah. And it is day after day after day, to maintain that level of. You know, for starters to maintain that level of interest in the patients that are in front of you, endurance to be that, yeah, there is a, there is a level of endurance that, uh, that goes into that kind of a job. That's why it is, it is more of a calling than a, than a, you know, totally at a restaurant. It's like you care about people to work at a, a senior home or a, or any of that kind of stuff you have to care. About those human beings quite a bit. it's very interesting specifically, let's talk about nursing for a second. Yeah. Um, at the Masonic home, we employ a whole bunch of nurses and we've got a wonderful group of, uh, of nurses and nurses aides that, that work there. And recently, uh, I've been connecting with the, uh, the university of St. Thomas's nursing program. Uh, mainly what we want to do at Masonic charities is, is to give some scholarships to nursing students, because. We're in the business of nursing and we want to encourage people. I want to help people out that are in the nursing business. And one of the things that was brought to my attention, which I think is really interesting is most people that decide that they want to go into nursing have zero nursing experience. Like they've never worked in a hospital. They've never worked in a nursing home. They've never. you're 16, 17 years old and you're trying to decide what, I want to become a nurse, right? Yeah, what makes them choose that? I think they're people that are, are compassionate people, generally speaking. But one of the, instructors from St. Thomas mentioned to me, is people go into nursing cause they watched Grey's Anatomy or Chicago Med or one of those type of shows. They're in it for the romance. Well, it's not the romance as much as the excitement. Yeah. And the thing is, is, is the pace of emergency medicine, for example, or the pace of critical care nursing is very different. than the pace of elder care nursing. And what was brought to my attention was, people could come into this, and many of them are thinking, honest to God, Grey's Anatomy. And, what it would be like to have just that constant, hum of activity, and how exciting that must be, and it's this patient in, this patient out, this patient in, this patient out. And that's just not the pace that a lot of people are built for, some people are built for a nursing home sort of setting, just care. But the fact that we have both of those types of people, when you're working in a nursing home, it's more about the relationships that you have with the people that are, that are being cared for, because for many of them, It's the last stop. Yeah. when they're in long term care, chances are that's going to be their final destination. Yep. The end of the road. The ultimate destination. Yeah. Yeah. We're all headed there. The big payoff. But when you're working like in an emergency room, and I worked as a, as a nurse's aide, in an emergency room back when I was in, in college, you get these people in, if they've got, you know, everything from a bump and a bruise to a shotgun wound, you're trying to try, trying to fix the situation and then you're sending them off to, the ICU unit or, something along those lines, it is stressful. It's exciting because you never know what you're going to see that night. But man, that pace is too much for some people. And it was for me. And like you were saying, the goal in that setting is to get people fixed up and had them out. But in a nursing home, it's just to care for them. Comfort them. Yeah. Um, I had a very wise friend of mine, Steven, uh, who, who is a listener to the show sometimes. But, um, he said when he was even like 30 years old, he had a temporary job at a nursing home. And he said, I believe every person should spend time working in a nursing home. And, uh, because of it gave him this totally different view about the dignity that you need to give elderly people. Absolutely. It's like we're all headed there. And to be able to see that as a young person, sit with an elderly person, you know, in that kind of setting, understand that it's, you know, It's a it's heavy, but it's also very important to understand the full range of life to see that How that's this is what it's all about and uh, I thought that was super interesting He said like a long time ago, and I have friends that worked in nursing homes. They say the same thing Well and the people that choose to do it professionally I we have this program called champions of care and then we've also we also do these on a quarterly basis we do service recognitions and they get a little plaque and they get a gift card and we serve them a meal. Um, I was signing those certificates you got people that have been working there for 30 years, 25 years, 20 years, lots of them. And you just have to be a special kind of person to pursue that type of a professional gig, right? But, but I guess my point is, everyone, even like young people should have that awareness, uh, have had some experience. So then they can appreciate older people in a different way. Yeah. I mean, it's one thing to appreciate your grandparents. Yeah, it's different, it's a different lens when you're in a facility like that. And, I'm not proud of this, but I got community service for acting like an idiot when I was in high school. Yeah, we did some silly things. And so, we were, it involved eggs and toilet paper, you know, typical high school stuff. So anyway, we got community service, but I, it was a blessing, um, because I got to work. For a summer at the Ebenezer care center in Burnsville. And I was the guy that would bring, um, the men and women down for, for mealtime. And I would kind of sit with them, entertain them and wheel them back up. And there was the, uh, one of the ladies, um, she had to be in her nineties. Her name was Eileen. And at the time of my community service, come on, Eileen, uh, was a very popular song in the eighties. So I would, I would sing that to her and she got the biggest kick out of that. It was a, it was an unbelievable summer. Like it ended up being such a blessing that I. That I got to do that. And, um, yeah, it does change your perspective, though, when you're a 16, 17 year old kid, and you're around people that are on the last, you know, year, two, three, maybe, if you're lucky, of their lives. These were folks that were at the end of the end, right? Um, it changes how you look at life for sure. Well, I have another story time. Yeah, listen. One of my first jobs as a kid, as a high school student is I worked at Wilder residence East, which was a nursing home on a seventh street on the East side of St. Paul. And I was a dietary aid, which means I was involved in preparing the meals, serving the meals. My main job was dishwasher guy, so, oh yeah. And like when I worked the Saturday or Sunday morning, nothing worse than when syrup is served because the plates all stick together. It was awful. And you know, if like a egg yolk, like it's tattooed onto a plate for too long. I mean, it's impossible to get that. It binds. Yes. It's like a super glue. But anyway, I, so I worked there and I got to know these residents and I would dance with them and stuff. And it was super fun. And I then went to work at St. Joe's hospital on the psychiatric unit. I worked a little bit in the ER and I worked on the psychiatric unit. Well, I get called down from psych down to the ER because there is a, an elderly woman who is being unruly. Oh, and the woman was 100 years old. Okay. Wow. She happened to be a person that I knew from Wilder Residence East. Wild. And her name was, I'm just gonna, her first name was Eleanor. This was 35 years ago. Eleanor is long gone. Yeah. I would assume. Yeah, that would be the world record if she was still with us. Yeah, probably. So anyway. Yeah. Eleanor comes in and I recognize her because six months earlier was working and I, and I go up and I grab her hand and I said, Eleanor, do you remember me? And she looks at me and she takes my hand. And she starts kind of like petting the top of my hand. She goes, Oh, sweetie, they're the things that they're doing to me. She's paranoid. I mean, she's really struggling. She's scared. She was scared and she was so sweet. She recognized you. She recognized me. Wow. Then all of a sudden she starts petting me. Punching the top of my hand with her fist, there was not much to it, and then she starts spitting at me, and she can't work up any saliva, and she's going, You son of a bitch. And she's spitting at me and I'm like, Eleanor, what are you doing? You know, just again, kind of sarcastic. I think I was Jerry Seinfeld before that. But what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? And Oh my God. did you calm her down or no, she needed to be medicated, she needed something to kind of take the edge off. So we admitted her, we had to admit her on the locked unit because she wanted to get up and walk around and she was not a person that could, that could walk around. I think it's super ironic that you've had two different jobs in that industry and you now work. Well, I know I was drawn to it. I really was. I, that's amazing. It's amazing. It, I think that's where I kind of established my interest in working with older people. when you're a plan giving guy, when you're a guy that does that for, yeah, for 25 years, you, you should probably like to be around older people. Yeah, it probably helps. It does help. So KG, um, you did community service. How many hours did you get of community service? I think I ended up getting 200. Wow, that's a lot. Well, I didn't help the cause. You know, here's what happened. Story time! So you go through stretches in life, especially when you're young, where you just make really bad choices. And, so I wasn't party guy in high school, that was not my thing. Uh, but I was egg throw guy, pee pee guy, prankster guy. So we, the egging of houses got boring for us in Burnsville, so we decided to take it to the next level. Oh no. And we were out one night bored, and my buddy Kurt had this hatchback, and I'm like, why don't we just toss exit moving vehicles? Oh, really? Stupid. Really? A stupid idea. Scary. So, I mean. This is how dumb we were at age 16. There's a license plate right there while you're tossing the eggs back at the vehicle. So we went through a carton of eggs and we thought we were pretty damn funny. And we got, you know, some cars tried to chase us. We got away, whatever. Well, of course, the cops show up at Kurt's door later that night, um, after we had been in for curfew or whatever, Kurt gives them all of our names and addresses. And so. The next day, obviously they come to the house and give your folks the bad news. And so we go to court and you know, the judge, there's like five of us. We go to the front of the courtroom and he's clearly not thrilled with even dealing with us. Idiots. It wasn't scary. You're probably to give you a little lesson. I look at what you guys have done so far. You're your hockey players, you're fairly decent students. You've all got jobs. You've got, your mothers and fathers are here. Looks like you've come up from a nice family. What would lead you to do something so stupid? And there's this hushed tone over the courtroom. No one's talking. My buddy's all their heads down. And I feel like, well, someone's got to say something. He asked us a direct question. So I raised my hand. He said, yes, sir. I said, well, the answer is easy. It's boredom. And. Oh my god, did that set him off? Oh, he was livid that I came up with that answer. So the hundred, the hundred hours turned into two hundred hours. And we had to, it was, but we deserved it. Like, listen, this was a dumb thing. It was a dangerous thing. Uh, we paid for all the damage to the paint to the vehicles. It was It wasn't a big deal. It was like, bar none, the worst thing I did in high school. And so I hope you haven't done anything that worth that bad since high school. When you say the worst thing you did in high school, I hope that it was the worst thing you've done in your life. Well, probably, but I mean, I'm not sure we can be friends anymore. It was 41 years ago, man. Like, I don't know. I haven't done a lot. I mean, I've been to court since. That's something. But I mean, I'm not like Elmo guy on heroin, but anyway. So, how did it all work out? Did they put you in the cuffs? No. No. No. No. Oh, come on. Let's deal with a carton of headcrab. Let me ask you this. Were you scared straight? Sounds like he was. Well, we didn't do it again. I can tell you that. But we did a lot of dumb things. Tell us some more dumb things that you did. Well, the most famous thing, and again, we're very proud of this, um, I've got a select group of friends that have gone on to do wonderful things. I'm probably the underachiever. In the group. Anyway, there was a group of us that like to play a game called chase. And how the game works is a lot of times we'd go to like a twins game downtown. We'd go into Bloomington. We'd go here. We'd go there. We'd be driving on 35 W south towards Burnsville from Minneapolis. And we'd try to piss somebody off on the road to the point where they started getting a little road rage and they'd chase us. Now, maybe we sang at them and we flipped them the bird. I don't know. But the bottom line is. Chase was a game that we started where we get someone to chase us, usually somebody young, and we drive them down to this black duck park. Now black duck park was our home field advantage because this was a long winding road that went along the, uh, the Minnesota river. And it was kind of a really vegetated area where you really couldn't see much. And we get these folks to follow us in the black duck and we turn our lights off and we floor the vehicle. We go from like 40. To like 80 down this dirt path. Oh my God. And if you hadn't been down there, like you're not going to keep following us. I mean, you can kill somebody. No, no, no, no. They just stopped following us. And that was the game of chase and it was awesome. Anyway, I'm not sure that we should be publishing this. Kevin, this is bad for your brand. My God. This is the kindness chronicles, not the, not the criminal chronicles. You asked me the question and I gave you the answer. This is when we were 15, 16, 17 years old. Listen, there are other things we could have been doing that were far worse. Chase was a game that we're still very proud of and we stand by. Nobody got hurt. Nobody got hurt. They just, they would like, Oh, we're not going to do this. We're not following down that path. And that was their home turf advantage. Chalk another one up for boredom. Another one up for boredom. So you were enticing road rage. It was. Yeah, we were a little, uh, a hundred percent put the bait out there. And it's like, I am not comfortable with this conversation. Okay. Well, hold on. Timeout. Timeout. I mean, Remember, like this is before the internet and cell phones. I know kids today can entertain themselves wildly for hours by just sitting on their rumps and looking at their. Their little technology their device. What did you do? What's the worst thing you did john? I mean, let's just get into the crux Maybe something like that that you did this one time. I left early from church right after right after communion and Smell the roses. This is ridiculous. One time I got detention because I wore white socks. Oh, that's so Steve. Yeah, it's a Hill Murray thing. You wouldn't understand. You wouldn't understand. I went to Catholic grade school, I would understand. I told Mr. Maurer that I was wearing white. So, Johnny Maurer. We had to, we had to wear a uniform, right? Black socks were part of it. We had black shoes and, you know, gray slacks, blue shirt. I forgot that I put the wrong socks on because it was cold because our furnace ran out. It's a long story. It's a long story. So I was sleeping in my socks because it's freezing cold. Got up late for school, took off, didn't change my socks. Uh oh. And I, and I, Mr. Maurer, I had him for a second. Some kind of, uh, study hall. And I, uh, he was a He wasn't teaching. He was an eagle eyed guy. Yeah. He could spot you. So I walked up to him and said, I explained the situation. And he said, Go down, go down and talk to Mrs. Paddock. You gotta Yeah. Get attention. Like, wh No, no. I'm telling you that I know that I'm telling I didn't get caught. I'm telling him So wait a second. You I offered him so I could get a pass. So I didn't get heat from anybody else. And he sent me down. I got it. That's my only detention. I had a hill Murray high school. Wow. I, my one detention. Um, so I had one as well, but it was senior year and there was this one guy that was kind of a clown and. He took this, uh, it was a science class and there was like this heart that you could take apart to see all the ventricles and all that other stuff, and he threw it out the window while the teacher wasn't in there. Those are, uh, And this was on the first level. And it was right across from the principal's office. Okay. So he throws it out the window and I think it was Mr. Capecchi. I know Mr. Capecchi. Mr. Capecchi came in and he was really fuming mad because that was what we were going to learn about that day was the heart something or other. Yeah. Goofy kids throwing it out the window. Yeah. So, um, I think it was Steve Fraser or Mike McGinn who both happened to become police officers. Grabbed the culprit and we um, who you yeah. Okay. We threw him out the window Why do I culprit out the window the person who threw the heart? Yeah, why now not? Mr. Kopecky? No, no, we threw that you were so you know, I would never do that. I was you know, I was I was pretty straight. But you took part in the throwing of a human body out a window. Out the window, and it was right across from Mr. Aschenbrenner's. Oh, Frank Aschenbrenner. And Frank saw it, like he was sitting in his office and he saw a body come tumbling out of the window. And while I think Mr. Capecchi, who is one of my favorites, I think that he appreciated it, and I think that he got a kick out of it, he knew that he had to, uh, he had to drop the hammer on us. You know, the tension, what's, you know, was it a two story? Was that a true story? No. Two story building. No, it was, it was a two story, but we only dropped him from the first story. He didn't get hurt. No, no. I mean, it was like, we could have like held him out and he could have, you know, bent over and picked it up off the ground. If we had held onto his legs, we chose not to hold on to his leg. Kid was Dan Brown. Dan Brown would never have done that. Um, he was a clown. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna expose the, uh Yeah, he might be a listener. He might be. Steve, you've got something that you'd like to address. Well, I just want to, uh, We really didn't talk about Minnesota Nights. We're going to call this one the Criminal Chronicles. Okay? Oh, so good. Yeah, well, that's good. KG's Criminal Chronicles. Come on. Often times on this program, we we We put something out there and then we don't follow up what we've never done that all the time all the time so we put out a challenge to our listeners a couple weeks back about um a Active kindness challenge. Yeah challenge was to compliment a stranger So I want to ask you guys if you've had a chance to do that I'll ask also our listeners to give us a note about something if they if they want to send us something individually We'd love to hear about it. So what was your okay? How did you compliment a stranger within the last few weeks? KG, do you have one that you did? That you paid a compliment. I just pulled aside a couple of the caregivers at at the Allianz facility in Burnsville to thank them specifically for going out of their way to help my dad, uh, through tough days. So yeah, and I think the more we can Pump that up and make them feel good. I just can't imagine going through that every single day. We talked about it already Uh, you have to have a calling for it for sure, but it's nice. I think to acknowledge them specifically for what they've done and so I did that and then I I did see a gentleman at the racetrack who had a uh, He was an older gentleman over the weekend and he had a uh, united states navy hat on and I just said hey My dad was in the navy. Uh When did you serve and he mentioned about the same time? My dad did this would have been back in the uh, In the late fifties, early sixties. And I just said, God bless you. And thank you for your service. It means a lot. And he had a big old smile on his face. So that was kind of cool. That's very, very genuine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So after this challenge, I, I was at a coffee shop with my wife, like the next Saturday I was like, Oh, I gotta, you know, there's strangers around this challenge. I was like, you know, I have no problem saying nice things to people, but sometimes when you think about it too hard, it's kind of like, I missed my chance. There was this guy that pulled up with this beautiful car. The color was so really cool. And I saw him get out and I was, I thought about this challenge, like, I gotta, I want to tell that guy, he looks, he's got a beautiful car. I missed him. He walked in and I walked, I missed him when he drove away. So that was my, I missed that opportunity, but I had another one. It was a terrible story. I'm just saying, okay, I was watching for it. As you had intentions, I have intentions all the time, right? But I was doing it specifically for this program. Like, oh, I'm going to, I want to tell that guy. So then, uh, more randomly I was walking, we were taking a walk and in our neighborhood, tell me if this is common. In your area, KG, or around here, Monomidai, do people have, uh, pet chickens or, or, uh, geese in their yard around here? No. Um, I know somebody that's got some chickens. In a suburban area? No, they're out, they're kind of out in the country in Stillwater. Okay, so in Cottage Grove, there's two or three homes that are right together. There's fences between them and stuff. There's brand new suburban houses that have chicken coops in their backyard. Oh. And geese. Yes. And how does this turn into a compliment? Um, because we're walking by. I like your chicken. Hey! Careful. We're walking by and we saw these people, this couple sitting on their deck and every time we go by we've never seen anyone. We're always looking at like, this is crazy, who has chickens? Or has geese? And um, there's this really cool looking goose right next to them and I like, they saw me look at it and they kind of waved at it and said, Hey! Nice looking goose! I was like, that's my compliment. That's the best that you can do. Nice goose. Nice. Go. That's Goose The closest I got to, uh, to being nice to somebody, a stranger. That's, that's bad. Not really sad. Actually, when I laughed as I said it, I laughed.'cause like, oh, that's my compliment to Goose. That's my compliment. That's a, Hey. Good looking goose. That's a great, great goose. Hey, kg, this is, this brings up a, uh, a perfect Seinfeld episode. Remember Little, Little Jerry Seinfeld? Oh, I do remember Little Jerry. When Kramer is walking, Kramer is walking the, the, the chicken or the, the rooster. It's a rooster, yeah. And they call him Little Jerry Seinfeld. Love it. Okay, so, um, I was so thrown off by your story, I have forgotten what mine was. Hold on. Did you see a good looking goose? I didn't see a good looking goose. I think the people that I complimented took it as a compliment. So, I always think that it is nice to pay a compliment to somebody in front of their audience. Coworker or their boss. True. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So our CFO is retiring and she's been terrific. And we are in the process of hiring, you know, going through the process of hiring a new CFO. Yeah. So we hired our CPA firm, Clifton Larson, Allen, CLA. They have a, uh, a service. They have, uh, professionals that help connect organizations with. Professionals, uh, you know, that are CFO level kind of people. Yeah. So they fly this guy in from Seattle, somewhere in Washington. And it's him and the guy who is like our point person at CLA. And I really like this guy. He's a hard worker, salt of the earth, just a good dude. And, we're doing our small talk, our introductions, and Um, want to get right down to business. And I said, for starters, I have so much, respect and faith in this guy. And I point to this, John, who is, is our point guy. I said, I can't imagine that this process is going to be disappointing because everything that guy does has been very impressive. I love this guy. Wow. And it was sincere. I mean, this guy does such a great job of explaining the intricacies of, uh, running our kind of business, they're experts in the elder services field. when he talks about things like our debt ratio and how strong our balance sheet is, all this, these things, and you know, our board really gets an understanding of how well we are operating so while he's sharing the information, he provides, sort of these backhanded compliments in a nice way about the way that we operate, the way that we conduct our business. And I felt like this was an opportunity for me to kind of pay that back. Got it. And, and it was just, how did it go? He was pleased that I said something, and it was very genuine, and I said it because I felt it, not because I had a challenge. Nice goose. Nice, hey, good looking, hey, I like your chicken, rooster, whatever. Okay, I'll cut that out. That needs to be cut straight out of the program. Yeah, I, uh, it probably would have been better for me to, uh, give a compliment to someone's character. And I, I probably, as opposed to complimenting a goose or his paint job on his car. But that's a very good looking goose though. It was a cool goose. It's great. It was a gray goose. Oh yeah. Mature, gray goose, beautiful. Are you talking about vodka now? I don't know anymore. Let's talk about the next challenge. You've got a whole list of them. What do you got there? Now we've learned a little bit. We've practiced, we've done one challenge so far. I didn't do so well. D minus. If I was getting a medal, what would I place? No, you're not even on the podium. Sorry buddy. I say, uh, There was a first, and a second place, and then they just skipped over right to last place. Nice goose. Nice goose. Um, I say, We need a t shirt. No, no, we need a, we need a Kindness Chronicle t shirt with the three of us on the front and the back in quotations. Nice goose. This needs to happen. Let's get it done. It was heartfelt. I'm wearing my Kayfan Fraudfather t shirt as a matter of fact. This could rival that if we get it to the state fair in time. The nice goose and then have a beautiful goose on the back of the shirt. I feel like I should have gotten a bigger size or maybe it was in the dryer too long. It's a little, it's a little taut. I'm going to blame the dryer for sure. Are we ready for the next challenge? The next weekly active kindness challenge is write a positive review for an experience you had. I do it all the time. I've been doing it lately too. I do it all the time. I don't know all the time, but I've done like two now that are, they're sincere and I've had really good experiences at. Uh, an auto zone. Okay, I had one at Valvoline instant oil change. Wow. Wow, Valvoline. Get the Valvoline and and I Yeah, I always take the time I don't always do that. But when it's really good, part of it is, is because then you get a coupon for 15 percent off your next service. So there's a, now we're in Colorado. And so my first time I did one was in cottage Grove during the pandemic to somebody that the services woman gave us. So be honest, like, wow, then we didn't, we were in Colorado. I was helping my son put some stuff together. The guy was so someone in the parking lot, our employee was about to leave. And uh, he turned around came back and said, do you guys need help with that? He was leaving he was off his shift. Pretty cool. Super cool. Yeah, so I wrote them a letter All right, a like a handwritten letter. No, no, I I wrote a review. So okay online. So that's the challenge So, uh, write a positive review. Um, so all of our listeners and us included, right. A positive view, uh, for a local business or service that they appreciate is a great idea. Yeah. Well, that idea is not the kindest in the world. Here's hoping that you do better next week than you did this week. Yeah. Unless, unless I buy some great goose and I'm going to send them a note, but yeah, I need to do better. Love your vodka. I'll do something better than that. Nice goose. Nice goose. All right. End with that. The Kindness Chronicle signing off, and off we go.