What has Troy Cassar-Daley been up to lately? OR Celebrating Heritage, Healing and Harmony through Music

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What if the secret to resilience lies in the stories we tell and the music we share? Join us for an unforgettable conversation with legendary Australian country musician, Troy Cassar-Daley, as he reveals the profound influences that have shaped his music and life. 

From early inspirations sparked by his parents' musical tastes to the rich oral histories of his Indigenous family, Troy's journey is a testament to the enduring power of storytelling. You'll hear about the personal experiences of loss and resilience that inspired his latest album, "Between the Fires," and how performing live brings him unparalleled joy.

Navigate the logistical and emotional hurdles of the pandemic with Troy as he recounts his recent adventures performing across Australia amidst travel restrictions. Hear about the touching moments from the BluesFest and relive the excitement of showcasing Australian talent in Nashville during the mid-90s. Through these stories, we touch on the healing power of music and its extraordinary ability to forge deep connections between artists and audiences.

Lastly, discover the heartwarming tales behind Troy’s personal connections and inspirations. From an unexpected friendship formed in a motel line to the musical talents of his children, Troy’s life offstage is just as compelling as his performances. We also dive into the significance of his "Between the Fires" tour and the heartfelt stories behind his album's cover art.  

Tune in for a rich tapestry of stories, music, and gratitude.

What has Troy Cassar-Daley been up to lately?  Let's find out!!

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Transcript

Cheryl Lee: 0:02

That Radio Chick Cheryl Lee here. Welcome to the Still Rockin' I t podcast, where we'll have music news, reviews and interviews with some of our favourite Australian musicians and artists. Today we are chatting to Troy Cassar-Daley

Cheryl Lee: 0:16

, who has spent his whole career being brutally honest with his music and Between the Fires. His 12th album is no exception. Fueled creatively by the heartbreaking loss of his beloved mother and the very real fear of almost losing his marriage, nothing is off limits on this set of powerful tunes. It's a very grown-up record, Troy says. let's chat to him all about it now. To catch up on podcasts from other favourite artists, simply go to that radiochick. com. au. I'd like to welcome into the Zoom room today a man who needs no introduction, mr Troy Cassar- Daley. Thank you for joining us this morning, Troy.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 1:02

Cheryl Lee, lovely to talk to you and it's just great to be on the road again. Loving playing live. It's the best part. I mean talking about myself is not my favourite part of the gig, but the touring part is awesome, fun.

Cheryl Lee: 1:15

I reckon there's a song in that. On the Road Again.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 1:17

I think so, I think so.

Cheryl Lee: 1:19

We haven't got a lot of time this morning, but I've got nine pages of wins and achievements and accolades. You have had an amazing career. I will showcase some of those at the end, but let's talk about you first and, if you don't mind, if we can go back to the very beginning, when did you realize, Troy, that music and performing was going to be your lifelong love?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 1:48

Look, I think it really was the moment where I was sitting around a record player as a kid and falling in love with stories. You know, listening to Merle Haggard, listening to Slim Dusty and all the stories that they had in their songs. They really got me. I found that when I'd go to visit my dad, my mum and dad were divorced early in my life. So when I'd go and visit my dad he was a big musical part of my life as well he would pick the guitar up and sing for me to calm me down if I was upset.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 2:12

That made its way into my DNA, obviously early in the piece, and then mum had the record player at home and all of our cousins played. I think my dad used to always be surprised at how many lyrics I could remember going along in a car as a tiny child and he'd say how do you remember the words to all these songs? I think it was because the songs affected me in a way that I guess they affect a lot of people, but just that I love to sing along with them and remember all the words, and those words make their way into your heart after a while, shall we?

Cheryl Lee: 2:40

The storytelling side of singing and performing probably comes largely from your mum.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 2:46

Yeah, the storytelling definitely from mum's Indigenous side of my family and we had a lot of times where we're more camping over school holidays and around fires. It was a time to learn and listen. We didn't have any phones and all oral history that was coming out. I think that oral history has been some of the best teachings that I've ever had, as much as going to school and learning poetry and music was very important. That storytelling was a big part of my life and now I feel pretty privileged to be on stage and keeping that going, but through music.

Cheryl Lee: 3:20

You must feel pretty blessed to be able to have continued to do that through your entire career.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 3:27

It's crazy how much I love my job. It's ridiculous actually. Even the other night we were playing Bathurst and got a chance to play a story about a man called Windredine that's on the new record and he was from the Bathurst Plains and to see the looks on everyone's faces I'm talking Indigenous people and non-Indigenous people to hear a story firsthand about someone that they there's a suburb called Windredine. They all know him, but to give his story back to them in song was super special. There were people that came up after the show saying I didn't know any of that detail about the suburb of Windredine, didn't even know it was a man. We heard about him being a warrior or something like that, but we didn't know any of his story. To be able to translate a story and then, you know, give it back to people on their own country is something I never thought I'd ever get a chance to do. That's part of being a storyteller as well.

Cheryl Lee: 4:17

Your Indigenous ancestors have been sharing stories and teachings like that for hundreds and thousands of years.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 4:28

Yeah, we have. There's also one thing that I remember my uncle saying many, many years ago is the fact that stories are the things that bring everyone together. I think as our whole family, as Australian people, I always call my audiences each night my family because they are, they're my country music family, and I found that tribe many years ago because I didn't realize that I was so crazy on country until I went to Tamworth and found an audience of people that were just as mad on this music as me and I say to them our stories are what are going to glue us together. I get to an age like I'm 55 and I'm very hungry for knowledge now, and so I'm all the time listening, learning and just putting things into song. It just feels natural to me to keep continuing to process these stories and then give them back to people you know

Cheryl Lee: 5:23

Let's hear that great song now, Windredine, from Troy Cassadaly's new album Between the Fires, and then we'll be back to speak some more to Troy after that.

Cheryl Lee: 5:44

You mentioned Tamworth. Was that one of your early musical experiences? You went there at 16 with your band Little Eagle, when you were touring the north coast of New South Wales and you made it in the top 10, the Tamworth Toyota Star Maker Quest. Did that sort of give you even more of a taste?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 6:04

The first year I went into Star Maker it was 1989. That was an incredible experience to play original music for an audience. And the second year I went in, this up and comer came and sweep the pool, called Keith Urban, who won it. So we all didn't have a chance to be honest, he was so good and I still, to this day, look back and go. He was more than prepared and we were just, like you know, winging our way through it. But he was just so focused and to see what that quest did, it gave us all, I think, a little bit of belief in ourselves. d Up until then I didn't have much confidence at all, but it gave me a little bit more confidence to go to the next step and that was to tour and to make music your career. That was probably one of the biggest turning points, I think, in everyone's career. It definitely was in Keith's. He went to Sydney and then got a record deal in Sydney and then he ended up in Nashville about a year and a half after that and that's how everyone's careers sort of just melted into the next stage and mine set me on the road with Brian Young, going through mainly Indigenous communities and talk about an incredible nine months of my life, god. I got to see nearly every square inch of the centre of Australia, got to learn a little bit about myself as well, and that's where I started to start writing songs properly, I think.

Cheryl Lee: 7:19

You replaced James Blundell in the Blue Heeler Band for a bit, yeah yeah.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 7:27

J ames was heading off to another band and he'd already done his first big major tour and he was hotter than a $2 pistol at the time and it was like really wonderful that they said oh look, we're looking for a lead singer. And I happened to be coming along I was living in Tamworth at the time. The band said look, we just need your repertoire. Can you send us down some things that you've done? I sent them a few original songs, some of the covers that I do, and they said look, we reckon you're a perfect fit.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 7:47

So for the first month I drove an EH Holden from Tamworth to Maryborough in Queensland, which I don't even know how many hours it was. I didn't notice it when I was 22. But it was a long haul. You'd leave in freezing, cold winter in Tamworth where the ice was on the windscreen You'd have to get it off with a spatula, and then I'd get up to Queensland where it was reasonably beautiful and temperate. And I was doing that for a month and a half, just playing with this band each weekend, and I grew to love them and I decided I was going to make the move. So I packed up a car full of stuff and ended up going up to Maryborough to live and then work with them to replace James and I think I learned more with that band, Cheryl Lee, than I think I learned with most people, because they were professional and they paid good money. I got to realize that this may be the proper future for me and not having to have a day job.

Cheryl Lee: 8:34

So it was a really good learning curve.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 8:37

It really was. And from there on I went from there to signing a record deal, signing a management deal, meeting my wife wife who was a lot more motivated than me and she was able to harness a little bit of what I had. I sort of took it for granted, I thought it was just a really good hobby music and she sort of said, no, it's a little bit more than that if you put your mind to it. It just really made me appreciate that you can harness what you've got if you've got the right people around you. And between her and my first manager things started to really grow here in Australia.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 9:07

And now I look back on that journey and I remember winning my first golden guitar with Laurel in the crowd. And then I remember when I won my 40th golden guitar and she was locked up with COVID in a motel and she had to watch it live stream the poor thing, but she was there for all of it. It's been an amazing journey. When you look at all the things that happened in between having a couple of beautiful kids you know, making some music you're really proud of right through to now, there's so much about the journey that I used to look back and be almost embarrassed by some dumb mistakes. Generally you know dumb mistakes but wouldn't change it because if it wasn't for those mistakes I wouldn't have learned.

Cheryl Lee: 9:43

Exactly right. And good man, listen to your wife, we're always right. Not always, but and happy wife, happy life, you know.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 9:51

Oh, totally no, but she was obviously able to get me to focus. I don't think I was a very good focuser. I was a bit dreamy when it came to playing music because I just was happy to roll from one gig to the other. When I met her, I was living between two houses. One of those houses was inside my car. An exciting prospect as a boyfriend, that's for sure.

Cheryl Lee: 10:12

On an historic night. In 2022, troy was named Male Artist of the Year. His album, the World Today claimed gold in the top-selling album of the year category, while his track South with Ian Moss was named vocal collaboration of the year. Troy has now claimed 40 golden guitar awards, surpassing fellow country legends Slim Dusty and Lee Kernighan to claim the greatest number of golden guitar awards ever won by an individual artist. Let's hear that song now with Mossy South.

Cheryl Lee: 10:47

And back to speak some more to Troy shortly.

Cheryl Lee: 11:01

Last time I saw you perform was Blues Fest. Hubby and I rode his midlife crisis Harley to Blues Fest and back 5,000 kilometres to see you.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 11:13

Well, that would have been awesome, fun, what an adventure.

Cheryl Lee: 11:15

And you know we did it twice, because the first time we got there it was cancelled and it was cancelled.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 11:22

When I was booked on that, I was actually down at my mum's place and I couldn't get back into Queensland. I was in New South Wales and I would have had to isolate for two weeks when I got back. That was the rule, yeah. And so you rode all that way. The caterers weren't even told. It was a complete kerfuffle. And then I had to do a gig down just over the border in Victoria, corion. So I stayed at mum's house in New South Wales, flew to Corion, did another COVID test for Victoria, because they wouldn't acknowledge the New South Wales ones. What a complicated mess that was. It was crazy.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 11:55

And then I ended up flying back home to Brisbane, got my negative test back so I could get into Brisbane and you had to go and show your negative test at the airport. It was like going into Russia when the wall was up and all that stuff, and into Germany. So it was like crazy. It was like something I've never seen before in my life. But Blues Fest is a really interesting show because you get a chance to play a lot of songs you might not play in your normal set. I just absolutely adore playing there.

Cheryl Lee: 12:22

I would love to go back again, especially if you're on the bill That'd be nice.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 12:26

Look, honestly, some of the things we're doing in this particular show, Cheryl Lee a bit of a hark back to that Blues Fest set. There's a bit more electric guitar playing, which I love. I've been able to explore that as well as share these new songs with everyone, and we've had the biggest connection of two or three songs from this new record that we've I don't think we've ever had on an album. When you're going out on a new tour. People have been going up to my manager at the merch desk and asking for two or three particular songs that really connect with them. I think to do that it means that it must be something special. It's not just to me and my healing and my way out of the grief I was in with mum losing, losing mum but it really was a case of it's actually connecting with people who must be going through similar stuff, you know.

Cheryl Lee: 13:08

I can imagine as a performer. That's all you really want, isn't? It is that connection with your audience, with your words.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 13:15

You feel like your job is done yeah.

Cheryl Lee: 13:17

I was just going to ask you a little bit about your time at the showcase in Nashville. I know it's a long time ago now, but how was that?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 13:26

experience. Well, my daughter's only just gotten back from Nashville. She reminded me when she went there with that enthusiasm and that, oh, I'm running here, I've just met up with such and such, I've just written with such and such. That's exactly how I was on that first trip. But the showcase was interesting.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 13:42

Myself, Lee Kernighan, Gina Jeffries, Tommy Emanuel, a whole bunch of us just went over and we were able to, through our record company's support, we did this amazing showcase, this fun thing to do to show the American people in the mid-90s what we were up to in Australia. It wasn't too different to what they were up to. You know, Brooks and Dunn were around and the Dixie Chicks had just started and so there was all this vibe what a great time. Oh, it was amazing. Like mid-90s. Garth Brooks hadn't even broken yet. You know he would have been big in certain areas where he was from, but he hadn't broken the international scene. So I met this fella standing in a line when we were actually booking into our motel. He was like this little sort of a Jewish guy who was whinging

Troy Cassar- Daley: 14:29

about our big entourage having to be booked in before him. And I said easy, mate, I'm part of that entourage, we're from Australia. And he goes, oh right. So we started this conversation and he said to me what are you doing here? I said we're on a showcase to show people here what we're doing in Australia. And he said do you know a certain fellow in Australia called John Bromell? And I said yeah, he's my manager. And he said he's also my manager and represents me in Australia, not manager, a publisher. So next thing, we've struck up this big old friendship. You know, standing in the line he ends up producing my second record. Bizarre how it turned out. Yeah, amazing, so yeah.

Cheryl Lee: 15:06

We've heard one song, Troy with Cold Chisel. Great Ian Moss, now Jimmy Barnes, lead vocalist of Cold Chisel, played live on the main stage at Tamworth Regional Entertainment Centre performing a Leonard Cohen song, Bird on a Wire, which is also on Jimmy Barnes' Double Happiness album. Let's have a listen to that and back to speak to Troy again shortly, You mentioned your children Clearly. Your daughter has followed in the family business, followed your footsteps into music. Are both children musical?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 15:56

Yeah, they're both really musical. And even my son, who works in radio here he's a music programmer on a station here in town. But even though he does that for his living and that's how he pays off his house and his car he's a hell of a muso too, like Jem, and they're both really blessed. They've grown up with my wife works on a radio station. All they played was classic hits and latest memory stuff and the kids got a huge dose of that. They got a huge dose of the country music from what I had. So when they sit down and Jen was just playing along on the piano in the background here before and I just hear the musicality that the kids have, makes me super proud as a dad, I feel like if you're going to give your kids anything, music to carry into their life is is something I think is something it's going to bring you joy and people around you forever exactly parenting 101.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 16:43

Good job dad and mom yeah, I am mom, totally no, we're really proud of them, and um and Laurel sings too, so they didn't have a chance no, not a hope, really no.

Cheryl Lee: 16:54

When you have the opportunity, Troy, to listen to whatever you want, you know in the car or the shower, what's on your playlist at the moment?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 17:05

Oh look, I go on to either Apple Music or Spotify. I've got both because I just think they've both got something to offer as well and I then go and buy things. I like I'm a bit old school, I like to have it in my phone, I like to own it and I also like to support the artist that's taken the time to create that art. You know, because I know how expensive it is to make a record. So I've been going to these Americana stations in America that play a person's playlist, like it might be Jason Isbell. I really like what he sings about. I love his lyrical stuff.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 17:39

I've just got on to this young fellow called Luke Bryan. I think his name is Really challenging to hear his vocals. He's a bit of a mumbler, but when you put the headphones on you can hear the intent and the rawness in his lyric. And there's a couple of young girls that I found through Gem, Stella Donnelly, who I think is fantastic. There's a couple of girls out of Victoria called the Maze who are amazing. And it's through my kids' taste and my son programming the music on this station that he works for often gives me some tips on someone like Charlie Crockett, for instance.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 18:09

So I've fallen into a well of singer-songwriters Chris Stapleton, of course. Just can't go wrong, just as a writer. I remember seeing him as a writer before I heard him really sing, so there's still a lot to be inspired by. But this young Luke Bryan kid, there's something about something in his lyrics that is really quite captivating and, like I say, he's a young kid that was in the army. He plays harmonica. He's a little bit like a Bruce Springsteen, with this depth of character that you just don't get in all these artists, you know.

Cheryl Lee: 18:42

I've got one from Luke Bryan. Y'all can have this town from his 2009 Doing my Thing album. Then we're going to hear back from Troy and find out if he and his band pull any spinal tap moments over what's in their band rider.

Speaker 4: 19:08

another frivolous question.

Cheryl Lee: 19:09

and then we're going to talk about the only date left for you Adelaideans to get to on the tour, because look at this, I don't know if you can see that Sold out, sold out, sold out.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 19:21

I know it's such a beautiful dilemma to have. You know, Cheryl, it's a great problem. We do get a lot of friends that have gone to get tickets and they're now hitting me up for any complimentary tickets that may be left because they missed the boat. And I just want to say thank you to everyone around Adelaide. I didn't really understand Adelaide until about maybe five years ago because I'd go there and it was always too cold for me. Yeah, and then I had days off in the last five years where I've taken the time to walk around the city and get to know the place and talk about fall in love. The two days I had off last year there, I wrote four songs for the new record. It was so inspiring here In Adelaide, yeah, awesome, I was right down here.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 20:02

What's the street where all the seedy places are? Is it Hindley Street? Yeah, well, I was a couple of blocks back from there and just took a walk through the town and ended up up and down Hindley Street. You've got to breathe the city in properly.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 20:15

But when I got back to the motel I just had all these inspirations to write things down and I wrote the song Windredine in Adelaide. Of all places. It's one of the most special songs on the record for me, and to have it written there and on that country down there is really important. Having the time and having the inspiration is something you can't put together, and I got it in Adelaide, and so I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you, I'm so glad. I want to say thank you to the people they make me feel very welcome, but also the country. The country talks to me down there. I don't know what it is, I just feel alive and I feel like when I'm walking around I'm very welcome, and that's probably why the songs flowed those few days when I was down there with Ian Moss.

Cheryl Lee: 20:51

I love to hear that. Thank you. My frivolous question, was do you have a non-negotiable on your rider Troy, something that you just have to have in your green room?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 21:02

At the moment I'm not drinking and normally we normally get a bit of vodka or something on our rider. So we're collecting up a couple of bottles of vodka for an end of year party and it has to be Grey Goose, I think it's called, and it's nice and all that stuff. But when I'm not drinking we just have to have beers for the crew. I don't do the blue M&Ms and all that as long as my crew are looked after and they always, you know, go for certain beers that they like. A carton of beer is nothing to shout your band or to have on a rider. Some people don't shout beers and I always make sure they've got whatever beers they need there.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 21:31

But they work so hard, Cheryl Lee, I a priority to make sure that the people that are looking after me are getting looked after by me as well, you know. So it's important I always make sure that the support act we've got Amber Joy Polton with us as well and she plays beautiful traditional country music and I always make sure our support act has enough time to do their sound check. If there's something I remember about coming through the ranks is is being rushed and having like five minutes to test your gear and then get off. We always give them the best possible time we can to make sure they're comfortable. A lot of them are very young this time around, from each of our states. I just don't want them to feel out of their depth and nervous, and I want them to feel like they can do the best they can, so that's always a priority for me.

Cheryl Lee: 22:10

That is great to know that you're looking after the hardworking crew and also the up-and-comers as well, and also the up-and-comers as well,

Cheryl Lee: 22:24

Troy mentioned Chris Stapleton earlier and you don't need to give me two reasons to play a Chris Stapleton song. I think the smexiest song on the planet Tennessee Whiskey. And then we're back to find out all about Troy's tour. Where can we find these dates for the Between the Fires?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 22:53

tour. Yeah, if you go to TroyCassar-Daley. com. au, I'm pretty sure all the dates are listed and that list you've got there comes up straight away. It lets you know which ones still have tickets. I'm about to head to the Kimberley for two shows with my wife and we're going to be mixing with the Pigram brothers up there. So I'm very lucky to be escaping winter for at least a week. It still feels like a privilege. I don't know. I still feel like I'm just super lucky to do what I do. But when we get down to South Australia, I just warn people that it's a little bit of a rodeo ride of emotion. So you're going to have your tissues ready and also be ready for some laughs, because we've got a lot of things to share with everybody. I simply cannot wait to get back down there. That country, like I say, speaks to me. I'm going to return serve with some songs that were written in Adelaide and I can actually share them now with everyone. I'll let them know exactly what motel I was in.

Cheryl Lee: 23:39

That is a scoop. You heard it first. Yeah, the Trinity Session shows are gone already, selling fast. There's one more show left. It's at the Old Mill in Harndorf on July 13. So get onto the Google-o-meter and snaffle them up before it's too late.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 23:57

Yeah, they're very limited. The ones at the Handoff Place I loved playing there with my daughter last time we were there. We played there a few times, but I think people will love the band we've got and, like I say, Amber Joy Poulton, who's going to be opening up, is going to do a fantastic job and we're going to maybe scab her for a couple more songs and I think also the fact that we're going to places we've been before. But I think they'll really enjoy the journey of this show. It's an hour and a half of music. It's complete escapism for me and I hope they feel the same.

Cheryl Lee: 24:27

Congratulations on the success of the tour. Also, congratulations on the album. This album means is really, I mean, all of your music is from the heart and close to your heart, but this one in particular is, isn't it? And it's got a family tree on the cover.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 24:45

Yeah, it's an old scar tree. It's at the back of our property. It's been there since I was a child, took everyone up for a chance to say hello to the old people who might have cut that scar in that tree. And on our way back I decided I'd try and get a witchetty grub, like we used to, out of a tree. But it was late in the season so it was going to be a tough call because the black cockatoos had beat me to most of the actual the grubs. So I found one decent size one, took it back to the house and cooked it for everyone and chopped it up and they all had a chance to have a taste. I think at that very moment a lot of the band and crew who made the record of Mum's Old House all felt like they'd left a little bit of their heart there at Halfway Creek as well. And that0's scar Gartree as the cover of the record. My drummer, who's on the road with me at the moment, took that shot and everyone mentions it looks like a painting. But no, it's not a painting, it's a photograph. It's also got an old cowboy hat on my head which is my Uncle Pete's. Every time I put it on each show. I feel like he's actually around me as well. He was such an important part of my life and to be able to carry that old hat around has been fantastic, so it feels like a privilege. Like I say Cheryl Lee, and to all your listeners who've bought tickets thank you. We're looking forward to being able to put a show on for you. Hopefully you won't forget no hurry.

Cheryl Lee: 25:59

We can to see you. So do grab those last tickets and I'll see you down the front. Let's have one more from the brand new Between the Fires album by Troy Cassar-Daley Some Days, then we're back to say goodbye to Troy.

Cheryl Lee: 26:22

Thank you so much, Troy. Was there any other points that you wanted to cover before we say ta-da?

Troy Cassar- Daley: 26:29

Just a thank you to everyone for their continued support. I've been in this game for well over 30 years. To still get sellouts at different audiences all through the country is still a huge thrill. It's not wasted on me. I just appreciate the support still and I can't wait to play. If there's anything I love, it's to play music, and they will hopefully get to see a bit of that love when we get to your town.

Cheryl Lee: 26:49

I'm sure they will. If I don't see you in Harndorf, I'll see you at Blues Fest.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 26:54

Oh well, put a word in for me. Put in and say you must get Troy back, and hopefully we'll get a chance to get back.

Cheryl Lee: 26:59

I'll get my people to speak to your people, to speak to their people.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 27:02

Yes, and make sure that you know, when you do take your Harley away, or whatever bike it is, that your husband's riding probably a Harley. Oh yes, Take a lot of wet weather gear. You know what it's like when you only get wet once but learn that lesson once. Oh God, it's something I'll never forget. But anyway, if you do come down, Blues Fest is definitely on our radar, for sure.

Cheryl Lee: 27:29

Excellent, so congratulations on an amazing career. Love what you do and you never work a day in your life, and I think you are showing that every day.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 27:33

Completely and thanks for your time. I'm sure that your audience love your show and just, you've got a bit of a zest for life in the way you speak and it's pretty important to continue to maintain that. Like I say, there's a lot of reflection in this show. It's helped me a lot. I think it's helping people on the way through the tour. So come on out and reflect with us and have some fun.

Cheryl Lee: 27:51

Awesome. Thank you so much for your time. I know you're really, really busy at the moment, so I appreciate the time you've spent with us today.

Troy Cassar- Daley: 28:01

It's a pleasure, Cheryl L ee. Thank you very much. The rest of your day.

Tommy K: 28:03

Have a good day. See ya, the list of troy's achievements is immense nominated for many apra awards, won, three.

Cheryl Lee: 28:18

nominated for many ARIA Awards I can't count them won about 45 of them. If my counting is correct, won nine Deadly Awards, a handful of Mo Awards, two National Indigenous Music Awards and a Queensland Music Award, and there's probably more I've missed. We played some songs earlier that Troy sang with Ian Moss and another one he sang with Jimmy Barnes from Cold Chisel and, being a South Australian lass, Cold Chisel's one of my favourite bands. We're going to go out with a song that Troy wrote with one of the greatest songwriters of all time, Cold Chisel's keyboard player, Don Walker. It's a little song called HQ454 Monroe and I love it.

Cheryl Lee: 29:19

Thank you so much for joining me on the Still Rocking it podcast. Hope to catch you again next time. Get out when you can support Aussie music and I'll see you down the front.