High Low Brow
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High Low Brow
Bottoms, Lil Nas X: Long Live Montero, Origin and Vanderpump Rules - All The Stuff Keeping Us Entertained!
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Have you ever wondered what a fresh take on the American teen sex comedy genre could look like? Wondered how an artist like Lil Nas X has transcended genres and continued to defy expectations. This week's episode of High Low Brow is a roller-coaster ride of emotions, revelations, and hearty discussions.
Our first discussion reflection on the brand-new film directed by Emma Seligman, Bottoms. We share comparisons to other popular teen comedies. Plus, we dissect its unique portrayal of sexuality and dive into the humoristic brilliance that is Bottoms, which is a beautiful portrayal of weird awkward gays.
Then Ama shares about the two films she saw during the Toronto International Film Festival including Origin, a film directed by Ava DuVernay and adapted from Isabel Wilkerson’s life, as she digs into the nuance of discrimination while writing what would become her New York Times bestselling book, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents.
Then, Ama shares their thoughts on the life and struggles of Little Nas X in the intimate documentary Long Live Montero. On its most basic level, the film captures the rapper during the height of their fame as they plan their first tour and what it means to be a Black, gay star in America right now.
Finally, we catch you all up on where we're at with Vanderpump Rules (spoiler: we're on season 9!!!) and analyze the controversial moments that polarized audiences, and look ahead to catching up to the most recent season.
Don't forget to tune into our next episode on Sunday, October 1st!
Welcome to High Low Brow. The show with high brow takes on low brow culture. I'm your one house, I'm your describer and I'm Larry the cucumber.
Speaker 2Shut up. Were you a veggie tailskin? I wasn't. No, yeah, because you didn't grow a Baptist.
Speaker 1No, I grew up the opposite of Baptist.
Speaker 2I am your co-host.
Speaker 1River Gilbert, I thought you were.
Speaker 2Larry the cucumber at home.
Speaker 1No, actually, according to TikTok, you're a chicken.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, I love narrow casting. Welcome to the podcast In jokes, in jokes, in jokes.
Speaker 1Actually, speaking of TikTok, have you been seeing this filter that has been Is it the pigeon filter? No, it's not the pigeon filter, but we can talk about that. Have you been seeing this filter that has been going around? Which PBS show were you?
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1Oh my God, okay, so maybe, like you brought up VeggieTales and talked about Baptist and growing up and immediately I was like no, I did not grow up with VeggieTales, but do you know what I did grow up with?
Speaker 2Mr Rogers and-.
Speaker 1Mr Rogers, ghost writer. Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
Speaker 2Oh my God, with the acapella group. What were?
Speaker 1they called Rockapella, rockapella and they were on Speakers Corner all the time. Oh my God, for those of you who are not from Canada, on Speakers Corner was this thing at Queen and John in Toronto, and if you were a person who paid what a dollar you could go and leave a message.
Speaker 2Speakers Corner was for my time.
Speaker 1Oh my God, I know what. It is Okay and I have friends who have gone downtown to do that, but like yeah, no. I know, I know, I know that's why I was like brace yourself baby. I feel like Speakers Corner was like the before times of social media. Yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2But what PBS show were you? I didn't take the video you didn't do what show?
Speaker 1are you Honestly, I really-. Oh, insert a little set for-.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I loved Ghostwriter growing up, Ghostwriter slimes and like I think, as a person who wanted to be a writer, I really was just like I see myself in this. Yeah but yeah, I want to solve crimes and rights.
Speaker 2I was like I think it was less about writing and more about solving crimes with a mysterious internet spirit.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I saw listen. It combined all of the love of my things the internet, writing, friendship, solving crime.
Speaker 2Yeah, come on From your memory which PBS show would you be Probably Under the Umbrella Tree.
Speaker 1Under the Umbrella Tree. Is that a PBS show? I think so. I don't know. Actually, I think that's a CBC show, oh shit.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1You're like maybe I should just sit this way. Yeah, I'm just going to sit this way. Oh my God.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 1And maybe next time we'll talk about how we-.
Speaker 2What CBC show we are.
Speaker 1Maybe, cbc, we'll see the virality of this Filter. Yeah and be like oh, maybe we should actually, you know, create yeah.
Speaker 2Oh, sorry, I wanted you to finish your sentence and then I was like oh my God, I have something.
Speaker 1Yes, go for it.
Speaker 2Was Matcheschool Plus PBS. Yes, okay, did you see the how they like yassified Ms Frizzle.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2Oh my God, they took like like the Jewish lesbian of my mentor, like I aspire to be, and like made her. I saw somebody on TikTok be like they whitewashed Ms Frizzle and I was like how do you do that with a white character? But like yeah.
Speaker 1I feel like in this relationship I am Ms Frizzle, a hundred percent.
Speaker 2I am the like the friend that came in every once in a while but like friend, they were roommates. Friend, I was like I love you, but no, no no, no, no, no, you're not giving Ms Frizzle energy, no.
Speaker 1I'm not. You all can't see.
Speaker 2Yeah, show us your outfit on this audio medium.
Speaker 1I am wearing a strawberry, fresh like shirt, yeah, yeah, and like I have nails that look like you see the nails? Yeah, I just did my nails and they look like gemstones.
Speaker 2Yeah, but like, let's face it, of the two of us, I am probably more likely to like shrink myself down and become a salmon.
Speaker 1True, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is accurate, I just want the clothes. Yeah, that's fair, I'm there for the fashions. What are we?
Speaker 2talking about this week, well-. New record for being off the rails.
Speaker 1I mean, that's why people are here. This is the show. So, oddly enough, we are here to talk about Gayshit.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. So do you want to introduce the movie that we went and saw the other oh, we should go see Bottoms.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Talking about Gayshit.
Speaker 2Yeah, I heard Bottoms and I just naturally assumed it was going to be about Bottoms, but it's not. It's not.
Speaker 1It's actually a film about two lesbians, and not just lesbians. It's a film by Emma Seigler, or sorry, seigelman names.
Speaker 2We know that Names you were bad with-.
Speaker 1Names. It's not my forte, but it's an American teen sex comedy and I think the thing is that so often when we think of teen sex comedies, we think of American pie and we think of like, could we say, clueless is involved.
Speaker 2No, it's not a sex comedy, but it is a teen comedy.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, and like I guess what I'm trying to get at is that it's usually more heteronormative, yeah it's, I mean, yeah, the super bads of the world. Yes.
Speaker 2And it felt do you know? What it reminded me of? It was Booksmart.
Speaker 1Yes, you said that Big Booksmart vibes Immediately after we saw it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was like I loved it because I loved Booksmart and I'm like I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1For those of you who have not seen Booksmart, you should definitely watch it. It's really great.
Speaker 2So you have less problematic hill.
Speaker 1We didn't know, we didn't know. But okay, anyways, we should talk about bottoms, bottoms, because we're getting off, yeah.
Speaker 2So the two least popular people in school start a women's self-defense group, which just turns into like a fight club for women.
Speaker 1Yeah, and what's funny about this is that the reason why they have ulterior motives for starting this group. It's not just a room like a self-defense group. It's a way for them to actually flirt and get to know the two people that they are crushing on.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's, you know. They pretend to go to juvenile hall and they start this self-defense group to pick up chicks. It's very like gay teen sex movie.
Speaker 1Yeah, and I mean, let's be honest, who has a?
Speaker 2male avatar. Are you going to be like?
Speaker 1we've opened there. Yeah, I've been like I've done that before. Huh, wait, didn't you? Well? Everyone thought I was a boy back then, so no, Well, I mean, I remember back in my high school days I think I've actually told you this I used to, I used to have a little bit of a scrapper history.
Speaker 2Yes, yes.
Speaker 1So back in my day I did used to beat up people when I was like okay, yeah.
Speaker 2Oh, that was how you flirted with people.
Speaker 1I don't think. Well, yeah, I feel I don't know. I think it's like yes and no. I think sometimes you don't have the language to communicate how you're feeling and that is. You say it with fist attacks. Yeah, I did with my fist.
Speaker 2So the I was like, yeah, the I got beat up in school and my only experience that was even tangentially related to a fight club was that when I was in elementary school, a bunch of like sixth graders watched fight club and sprinkled Y all over the playground. Yeah, dude, new market.
Speaker 1What? Yeah, I think the great thing about bottoms was that we saw a lot of character like, we saw a lot of jokes that were like very real but also there was a storyline here where the characters some of them are not redeemable, but you were also like, wow, I see myself in this and I relate.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean I don't want to be like it was satire, but like it was like satire adjacent. They had some social commentary going on. I loved the. I mean the whole jock situation was 100%.
Speaker 1Yes, so the jocks were probably the guy who played the head jock. What was his name again? Oh God, jeff, jeff, jeff was like the best character because he was so on point the entire film where he was just like, but but what about Jeff?
Speaker 2Yeah, Big Ego, overtly sexual like the like, yeah, the most like stereotypically like jock jock of all time yes, and his favorite was his. Like his best buddy, yes, who was like doing the undercover work to find out if the girls actually did go to juvenile hall, yes, and then sets up one of the supporting like one of the other founding members in a fight match to see if how good and effective the actual thing was against the top boxer.
Speaker 2But like, yeah, the whole, like I, I think I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I feel like we watched it a couple of weeks back. We did I'm like I feel like it was like a slower start, but once it got going it was just like holy shit.
Speaker 1Yes, I agree, and we talked about this after the teacher who sponsors the fight club is such an underrated character.
Speaker 2Oh my Well he, he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1I didn't really like I knew he was actually an athlete.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But I didn't realize he had won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2Yeah, dude, yeah no and the whole thing was start to finish very fun.
Speaker 1Yeah, very fun. I think I've seen a lot of critical praise for bottoms and I think this is Emma Siegelman. Did I say that right this time? Oh, yes, okay, great, this is their second film.
Speaker 2Yes, yes.
Speaker 1I think you know, if you haven't had the opportunity to see it yet, I think you should go and see it. It's definitely like it's a great time.
Speaker 2I think we were outside the target demo for it, but like we had a great time, like I had seen this in high school. I think like it would have been like.
Speaker 1I don't think we were outside of the target demo. No, no, not at all. All the people that I have talked to so far have been like queer folks who have been going to see it.
Speaker 2Oh, I guess it's sort of like the like hey, we were gay in high school and not celebrated, and this really hits close to home for us.
Speaker 1Right, yeah, yeah, I think it's for gay people, period. That's it Like. This one's for the gays, this one's for the gays, she's the gays. Like, if you want something to laugh at, this is it. But it's solid eight. Huh, it's solid eight. Oh well, that's good yeah. I mean I was going to give it like a nine.
Speaker 2Yeah, I could be convinced of a nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would watch it again. I would watch it again Very gladly.
Speaker 1So, yeah, if you're looking for something to go watch, definitely. If you're looking to go into a theater, yeah, that's what you should go watch. That's what you should go watch. It's great.
Speaker 2You've been watching some more highbrow films.
Speaker 1I mean, someone's got to put the highbrow into this.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know, I mean you came home from getting your nails done and I was like I watched two horror movies. I knew One of them was very problematic. And the other one was like artsy horror and I did not enjoy it.
Speaker 1I guess you don't want to out yourself on the podcast either, the problematic film. Oh yeah, no, I'll say it.
Speaker 2Like I got everyone was recommending I watch Possum, which was like a 2018 very like it was based on a uncanny short story. Like where they were trying to like explore the concept of uncanniness and like they did an excellent job. Like it's about a disgraced puppeteer who goes home to dispose of a puppet named Possum and the puppet itself is fucking terrifying. The acting was very good, is there anyone?
Speaker 1No, no, no, no, it's very British it's like very very British.
Speaker 2Where did you watch it? I watched it on Shutter, oh okay, yeah, and no, like it was, the story was like very nothing. It was like a nothing sandwich. Very ambitious, it felt like an infinity pool, which I also didn't enjoy.
Speaker 1Yes, we did an entire episode about.
Speaker 2But if you like infinity pool, you'll probably like Possum. So the cinematography is great, but Possum the drama was pretty good. It's very dark, like thematically, as well as brightness. Wise Got it okay, and then the one that I'm like this is a problematic fave was Terrifier. Yes, which came out in 2016,.
Speaker 1I think also on Shutter. No, that one was on 2B. Okay. Yeah so so I gotta like before you continue has so many great like specifically horror films, Lots of lots of B movies like I watched.
Speaker 2Killer Clowns from outer space.
Speaker 1Yeah, and like I love campy, like B films, so Shutter's a 2B and it's all free.
Speaker 2Yeah, so no, I and like but yeah, terrifier I that one was like such a divisive movie when it came. Everyone's like it's Torture porn and like I tend to not enjoy those movies anymore yeah, in my old age. But I was like it just kept like rattling around in my head and I was like I gotta watch this fucking movie Because, like the way I pitched it to you after I watched it was like it's like if Jimbo the Clown was in fucking an 80s slasher movie.
Speaker 1And honestly, that pitched to me I was like I wanna watch that.
Speaker 2Yeah, so the villain Art the Clown is silent the entire movie.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2He's the guy who plays him is so physical. It's very like you want to watch it for him, just for him. And they made a sequel likely just because of him.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And I think I also said to you like I really didn't like that they, the women, were in the movie to suffer and they weren't fleshed out. I think the director has publicly come out and said like I regret not developing these characters, like this was very much like like a spectacle. Yeah, but it was like both of the movies were 88 minutes, like so under Wait, we love a short. Yes, and that's why I wasn't mad about Possum.
Speaker 1Yeah.
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Speaker 2Because I was like it wasn't the fucking slog that Infinity Pool was yes. And why I thought Terrifier was fun and I like watched it again with you. Yeah, Tell us about the Hybride movies. So tell us about your culture movies.
Speaker 1Yes, this week I ended up going to TIFF. For those of you who don't know, that is the Toronto International.
Speaker 2Film Festival it's international.
Speaker 1Everybody knows it's international and it's been a few years since I've gone, mostly because, yeah, yes, the pandemic. And previously I was going to TIFF as a freelance journalist and I was covering the after parties and not actually going to see films.
Speaker 2We got to go to a few gifting lounges one year. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that was yeah. Let's not talk about that, let's not talk about films.
Speaker 1Yeah, so the first film that I went and saw was Origin, which was Eva Dufournay Is that how you pronounce her?
Speaker 2I'm not sure you saw the movie.
Speaker 1I know, but I am bad at pronouncing names. Yeah, anyways, origin, it was a very wonderful film. It is based off of Isabelle Wilkerson's book Cast and essentially it does a look at the cast system, obviously, but essentially it also takes a look at journalist Isabelle Wilkerson, her process of writing this book, and also not just her process in writing this book but also her research into what the cast system is and just the history behind cast in sort of, you know, slavery in America, but also the Holocaust and also the Indian. What was it? The cast system? Yeah, yes, no, but in India, was it the undesirables?
Speaker 2Yes, yes, so undesirables, yes.
Speaker 1Yes, so it was very well done. The acting was incredible, the story was amazing and I know when we were talking about it, you were kind of like, oh well, it was just like about the book, right, and I was like no, no, no, no, no. Like it incorporated a lot about her own life. It incorporated about her own story. It brought in history. I think it's a really great film for individuals who are really trying to learn more about how, like this isn't just about racism, this isn't just about like it's about the systems of racism. It is about the systems of racism, yeah, it is about. One of the things that I really took away from the film was just about how this is something that is continuing to happen.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And you know we're seeing this happen currently with trans people right now, and it doesn't really matter who you are or you know what race you are or where you're from, it's just like yeah.
Speaker 2No one's free until the least free among us are.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2I seem to remember you saying like the release date of the book was two weeks before. Yeah, the George Floyd incidents.
Speaker 1Yes, that is correct and the book cast stayed on the best sellers list for almost two years and that is sort of was in the closing credits, mostly because George Floyd happened and then the 2020 presidential election happened and all of these things happen. So, honestly, like I haven't read, cast the book, I've read so many other books and going into this film, I didn't feel like I needed to read the book.
Speaker 1I just was like this is a topic that I am super interested in and like, yeah, so it's gonna be released shortly nationally. It's already been to the Venice Film Festival and, honestly, if you are interested in learning more about race inequality, these types of top Systems of oppression, yeah systems of oppression. Honestly, I would go and see it. I think it's great and it's worth taking the time to watch. I will note that it is a longer film Three hours, yeah, like close to three hours. So you know, get prepared. I cried.
Speaker 2Everybody. You were saying everyone was.
Speaker 1Yeah, there was someone in the theater that was like literally sobbing, so like it's a difficult watch, but it's an important watch. I think that's the main takeaway. The other film that I saw, however, on the opposite spectrum was the Little Nas X documentary. Was it? Long Live Montero. And it's his concert documentary showing how he sort of brought together his concert tour last year but also talking about like his entire sort of rise to fame and also coming out as a gay black man in America currently. Why I wanted to go and see it was one I went to the concert tour last year.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was gonna say and the concert was great.
Speaker 1It was phenomenal. If you.
Speaker 2You cried at that one too, I think I did cry. I remember sending you texts while I was at the show but I was like sobbing this is so good.
Speaker 1If there's anything that you should take away from this, it's that, like You're very passionate, I'm very passionate about the things that I love. So, and the other thing is, when I went to the Little Nas X show I was so far back, so it was really great to go see this documentary where I could relive the show and actually see in clear like the vision that he was trying to put forth to his fans. In Toronto the show was at RBC Echo Beach and like that place is so big but it's for the show that he was trying to have. It was like, in my opinion, not the best place for that show. Anyways, that's so far beyond the documentary. The documentary was really great because he talked about growing up in Atlanta and how like his family was not accepting of his queerness and how he originally went to school to become a doctor and how this concert tour was like a love story to him being a child and like rediscovering who he was and how he does so much for his nephews to sort of like not hate gay people.
Speaker 1You're saying like there's just one clip of him being like don't be homophobic, yeah, and how he talked about people protesting at his shows and how he was like wow, that's kind of like, that's kind of lit, like, that's so rock and roll, like who could imagine that ever happening. But on the opposite side of that he was talking about how it has like such a huge like tool on his own mental health because so many people expect him to be so much of everything, and he was like I try and take so much of that on, but like I'm only one person and I can't do everything. So I think it was really great to sort of have this film show like as a gay black man in America who's literally only in their 20s.
Speaker 2Like you were saying, like when Old Town Road came out, like he was like a teenager, right?
Speaker 1He was very young, Like they showed a clip that he recorded and he was literally like it was in his bathroom at his old house. He was wolfing down, I think it was like a hamburger and it was just like so wholesome. And I think the thing is, is that like we put as a society so much on other people to have all of the answers and all of the ex, like we put all of these expectations on people, and it's like he's literally also just trying to figure shit out as well, just like me and you.
Speaker 2Where everybody's just trying to figure stuff out.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're all living in a society.
Speaker 2We are living, thank you. Thank you, miss Joker.
Speaker 1Anyways, it was great. I really enjoyed it. I'm sure it is gonna come in Toronto. We have a theater here called Hot Docs. I have a membership. It is a wonderful theater. I am part of the arts and society. But, like, honestly, if you have a theater in your city or town that shows documentaries or anything like that or you can just, you know, stream it somewhere. I would highly recommend seeing it. It's so good.
Speaker 2I know we're almost at time, but can we do another 10 minutes and talk about Vanger Pump?
Speaker 1You don't have to choice my answer.
Speaker 2I know we're on season nine.
Speaker 1Yes, we are at season nine. I was literally talking to Rebecca, my nail person, about this today and I was like remember how the last time I saw you, which was like a month ago, I said we had just like, I don't even think of it Anyways.
Speaker 2We started it right before my surgery.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's been about a month. We're on season nine.
Speaker 2Yeah, we're almost caught up. And, like I was saying to you, I think it's so funny that I am watching this in the same way that you watched it, which was at the beginning of the pandemic. Desperately.
Speaker 1Yeah, I remember you'd be like Emma, you should come to bed. What are you doing? And I'm like I have to watch another episode of it and I remember the next morning.
Speaker 2I'd be like when did you come to bed? You were like three, four. I slept out here.
Speaker 1Yeah, and you'd still be watching it.
Speaker 2I have to watch more, but season season eight happened.
Speaker 1Yeah, I remember, as we were going into season eight, I was like one. When we get to the end, I have to like explain some things to you. Some things happen between eight and nine, but they don't talk about they don't talk about, which I will need to explain to you One and two. The season is mid.
Speaker 2Yeah, I remember my the entire way through. They'd keep cutting to max and I'd be like I'll fucking care about max.
Speaker 1Who the fuck cares about max and Brett and Danica?
Speaker 2Well, my, my, I was like why did they cast two skinny blonde white women with named Danica and Dana?
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2And I was like oh God. Anyways, season eight was fine it happened. I'm glad the bow proposed to Stasi. I think that, like, obviously we're good to talk spoilers, anyways, yeah, I mean the fact that, like, max and Brett got fired, but then the fact that Stasi and Kristen got fired. I did not see that coming.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm going to say a controversial, you're brave statement.
Speaker 2Uh huh. Careful you just talked about. You know the movie you watched about like systematic yeah, I know, I know Systems of oppression.
Speaker 1Yes, I am aware, Re-watching all of these seasons, Stasi has and I know, I know what's, I know what happened. Stasi seems to have been the voice of reason.
Speaker 2Stasi so she's shown growth. She has her moments where she's. I'm like, oh yeah, you're the voice of the people.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And like, but then the dark basseter shows up.
Speaker 1Yeah, and like I know, I know what happened, which is why they were, why she was fired.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And I'm like I I know like she obviously needed to atone for her. Yeah, I mean remember when.
Speaker 2Remember when Ariana was like yeah, she's fucking racist, and then Billy Lee went on the show and was like I heard you're racist and she's like I'm not racist. And then she goes and does the most racist fucking thing yes.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. So like Stasi girl, it's like Ariana was spit in facts, like she like the last hole.
Speaker 2However, I still think that, like we needed a Stasi and as the voice of reason, not as the racist piece of shit, but like right, right right. And now I think my, my, my prediction is that they're going to try to like put Lala in the Stasi position. Yes, Because they have similar kind of like bougie energy.
Speaker 1Yes, I agree with you so, but yeah.
Speaker 2I I am going to miss the chaos that Jack springs.
Speaker 1I'm not going to miss Jack's. No, because who could miss Jack's?
Speaker 2I mean, he is the number one guy. He is the number one guy, I am excited about watching him on the villains show House of villains.
Speaker 1Yeah, If you don't know about House of Villains, I think we talked about it, yeah, but like we need to find out. Jack's Taylor, jack's Taylor, all, all.
Speaker 2I'm so excited. But yeah, no, he was his particular stuff where he would just like say one thing and then go to the other person and say that he, he would have talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Speaker 1He'd be like convince people to say things. I remember I brought this up at his wedding. He got mad that his mom didn't contact him and I was like he hasn't spoken to her in literal months and he didn't invite her to any event. Like why would she contact him? She like she seems, and I don't know her, but for for, if we are to infer, for for what we know, she seems like a reasonable human.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, I mean like to get personal for a second. Like Jackson, I went through a very similar thing with our parents or dad and I don't want to be like yeah, he's getting over it, because like obviously it's taken me.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Almost two decades to do that, but yeah.
Speaker 1Well, and what? What? I think what I said to you was she's probably trying to respect his boundary that he has set, and him being like why didn't she contact me? Is like the opposite of that.
Speaker 2The thing that I can shit talk jacks for is him continuing to insist that Tom Sandoval did not try to contact him and Tom being like you have the text and then they cut to him telling him that he texted him and Jack's reading it and acknowledging and he's like I don't remember that happening and Andy like called it and was like you don't want you need to watch the fucking show because we are reacting to things that you did and you are just reacting to the memory Narcissism I'm so excited to see because I'm watching season nine with eyes wide open like creed.
Speaker 1Yeah, and that was arms, arms wide open. Yeah.
Speaker 2Doesn't matter, yeah, and I know, I know Scandival.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And we just saw James proposed to Raquel.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And we saw the part that Sandoval played in James proposing to Raquel. Yeah, I was just like the whole time I'm just like he's dropping bams on this girl.
Speaker 1Yeah, like who does that?
Speaker 2Who does that? I'm sure she's a perfectly nice person, but they don't have a relationship. Him and James kind of have a relationship, but it's mixed. I'm just like girl.
Speaker 1Also like I feel bad saying this, knowing what we know now, but she's not the sharpest knife in the door.
Speaker 2I remember on one. So I realized that it was Raquel that Sanival cheated on with, like in season eight, yeah, and I was like oh, because they played like a preview for the next season of Interpound. And I was like wait, it was Raquel. And I just immediately flashed to the scene like the bit in Arrested Development. I am like I'm sure she's. No, I'm sure she's a lovely person, but there's something that unsettles me and it's the fact that she does not blink.
Speaker 1Yes, you kept saying this.
Speaker 2You're like she doesn't blink she blinks in the confessional, but never, ever, any other time.
Speaker 1It's so unhinged I'm just like because I remember being like there's something wrong with her.
Speaker 2She hits her eyebrows. I'm like no, her eyebrows are fine.
Speaker 1And then just this season I was like she doesn't blink.
Speaker 2She doesn't blink, she's fucking night crawler.
Speaker 1She doesn't blink. Well, I think, I think we should end it there, because we should go watch more Vanderpump. Let's go watch more Vanderpump.
Speaker 2Yeah, Watch Tarrafire watch. Vanderpump make a night out of it.
Speaker 1Bingo, bingo. How did it Just tell the folks where they?
Speaker 2can find us Well. First of all, thank you for listening.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, thank you for listening. I really appreciate it. We do.
Speaker 2It's like one of the highlights of a week. It is. It genuinely is whenever we record the podcast, even though we always leave it the last second, but you know.
Speaker 1Don't tell them our secrets.
Speaker 2ADHD and autism and putting things off. Hey yeah, if you are interested in supporting us, please follow us on social media. We're everywhere except for Twitter, because Twitter doesn't exist at high. Low brow pod, that's H-I-G-H, low brow pod P-O-D. You can find us at highlowbrowpodcom. You can leave us a voicemail, have we?
Speaker 1got voicemails. I haven't gotten one to date, but I mean, please send us voicemails. Yeah, we want to hear your lovely voices yeah. If you want, you can also leave us a review on either Apple or wherever you listen to podcasts. That would really help us in the algorithm. Drop a five star, yeah.
Speaker 2I would like to beat the Joe Rogan podcast.
Speaker 1Okay, I would, I mean I would too. Yeah, I'm not sure that's going to happen anytime soon.
Speaker 2I don't. I'm not either, but, like you know, yeah, hopes and dreams, I'll call it a dream?
Speaker 1Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers. I think that's it Is there anything else?
Speaker 2I'll go back next week. Yeah, not next week, two weeks from now.
Off-Season Live Watch and Psychic Test
Speaker 1Yeah, two weeks from now.
Speaker 2Oh, oh, two things, two things. One, we are talking about doing an off season live watch or something, so stay tuned for more details and that won't be until like December, but I'm very excited about it. And two, I was thinking about what we can do to sign off, because I'm like like a bit to make sure people actually stick around to the end, right? Sure, okay, hear me out. I think we should do a psychic test. So we're going to like, I'm going to say like we're going to say a noun, and we'll go one, two, three and then we'll say a purple. Purple is not a noun. You can play along at home and see that if you are on the same frequency as us, because we always say same person, right, yeah, same person.
Speaker 1Okay so thanks again.
Speaker 2Let's do our second test One, two, oh noun, noun, actual noun this time. One, two, three ginger, ale you didn't say it.
Speaker 1Oh my God, okay, let's try again. That was, that was the yeah, okay.
Speaker 2We'll verb this time.
Speaker 1Let's just oh my.
Speaker 2God, emma, we'll see you in two weeks. Bye, bye.
