Have you ever wondered what a fresh take on the American teen sex comedy genre could look like? Wondered how an artist like Lil Nas X has transcended genres and continued to defy expectations. This week's episode of High Low Brow is a roller-coaster ride of emotions, revelations, and hearty discussions.
Our first discussion reflection on the brand-new film directed by Emma Seligman, Bottoms. We share comparisons to other popular teen comedies. Plus, we dissect its unique portrayal of sexuality and dive into the humoristic brilliance that is Bottoms, which is a beautiful portrayal of weird awkward gays.
Then Ama shares about the two films she saw during the Toronto International Film Festival including Origin, a film directed by Ava DuVernay and adapted from Isabel Wilkerson’s life, as she digs into the nuance of discrimination while writing what would become her New York Times bestselling book, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents.
Then, Ama shares their thoughts on the life and struggles of Little Nas X in the intimate documentary Long Live Montero. On its most basic level, the film captures the rapper during the height of their fame as they plan their first tour and what it means to be a Black, gay star in America right now.
Finally, we catch you all up on where we're at with Vanderpump Rules (spoiler: we're on season 9!!!) and analyze the controversial moments that polarized audiences, and look ahead to catching up to the most recent season.
Don't forget to tune into our next episode on Sunday, October 1st!
Have you ever wondered what a fresh take on the American teen sex comedy genre could look like? Wondered how an artist like Lil Nas X has transcended genres and continued to defy expectations. This week's episode of High Low Brow is a roller-coaster ride of emotions, revelations, and hearty discussions.
Our first discussion reflection on the brand-new film directed by Emma Seligman, Bottoms. We share comparisons to other popular teen comedies. Plus, we dissect its unique portrayal of sexuality and dive into the humoristic brilliance that is Bottoms, which is a beautiful portrayal of weird awkward gays.
Then Ama shares about the two films she saw during the Toronto International Film Festival including Origin, a film directed by Ava DuVernay and adapted from Isabel Wilkerson’s life, as she digs into the nuance of discrimination while writing what would become her New York Times bestselling book, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents.
Then, Ama shares their thoughts on the life and struggles of Little Nas X in the intimate documentary Long Live Montero. On its most basic level, the film captures the rapper during the height of their fame as they plan their first tour and what it means to be a Black, gay star in America right now.
Finally, we catch you all up on where we're at with Vanderpump Rules (spoiler: we're on season 9!!!) and analyze the controversial moments that polarized audiences, and look ahead to catching up to the most recent season.
Don't forget to tune into our next episode on Sunday, October 1st!
Welcome to High Low Brow. The show with high brow takes on low brow culture. I'm your one house, I'm your describer and I'm Larry the cucumber.
Speaker 2:Shut up. Were you a veggie tailskin? I wasn't. No, yeah, because you didn't grow a Baptist.
Speaker 1:No, I grew up the opposite of Baptist.
Speaker 2:I am your co-host.
Speaker 1:River Gilbert, I thought you were.
Speaker 2:Larry the cucumber at home.
Speaker 1:No, actually, according to TikTok, you're a chicken.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I love narrow casting. Welcome to the podcast In jokes, in jokes, in jokes.
Speaker 1:Actually, speaking of TikTok, have you been seeing this filter that has been Is it the pigeon filter? No, it's not the pigeon filter, but we can talk about that. Have you been seeing this filter that has been going around? Which PBS show were you?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, okay, so maybe, like you brought up VeggieTales and talked about Baptist and growing up and immediately I was like no, I did not grow up with VeggieTales, but do you know what I did grow up with?
Speaker 2:Mr Rogers and-.
Speaker 1:Mr Rogers, ghost writer. Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
Speaker 2:Oh my God, with the acapella group. What were?
Speaker 1:they called Rockapella, rockapella and they were on Speakers Corner all the time. Oh my God, for those of you who are not from Canada, on Speakers Corner was this thing at Queen and John in Toronto, and if you were a person who paid what a dollar you could go and leave a message.
Speaker 2:Speakers Corner was for my time.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I know what. It is Okay and I have friends who have gone downtown to do that, but like yeah, no. I know, I know, I know that's why I was like brace yourself baby. I feel like Speakers Corner was like the before times of social media. Yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:But what PBS show were you? I didn't take the video you didn't do what show?
Speaker 1:are you Honestly, I really-. Oh, insert a little set for-.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I loved Ghostwriter growing up, Ghostwriter slimes and like I think, as a person who wanted to be a writer, I really was just like I see myself in this. Yeah but yeah, I want to solve crimes and rights.
Speaker 2:I was like I think it was less about writing and more about solving crimes with a mysterious internet spirit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I saw listen. It combined all of the love of my things the internet, writing, friendship, solving crime.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on From your memory which PBS show would you be Probably Under the Umbrella Tree.
Speaker 1:Under the Umbrella Tree. Is that a PBS show? I think so. I don't know. Actually, I think that's a CBC show, oh shit.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:You're like maybe I should just sit this way. Yeah, I'm just going to sit this way. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:And maybe next time we'll talk about how we-.
Speaker 2:What CBC show we are.
Speaker 1:Maybe, cbc, we'll see the virality of this Filter. Yeah and be like oh, maybe we should actually, you know, create yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, sorry, I wanted you to finish your sentence and then I was like oh my God, I have something.
Speaker 1:Yes, go for it.
Speaker 2:Was Matcheschool Plus PBS. Yes, okay, did you see the how they like yassified Ms Frizzle.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, they took like like the Jewish lesbian of my mentor, like I aspire to be, and like made her. I saw somebody on TikTok be like they whitewashed Ms Frizzle and I was like how do you do that with a white character? But like yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like in this relationship I am Ms Frizzle, a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:I am the like the friend that came in every once in a while but like friend, they were roommates. Friend, I was like I love you, but no, no no, no, no, no, you're not giving Ms Frizzle energy, no.
Speaker 1:I'm not. You all can't see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, show us your outfit on this audio medium.
Speaker 1:I am wearing a strawberry, fresh like shirt, yeah, yeah, and like I have nails that look like you see the nails? Yeah, I just did my nails and they look like gemstones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like, let's face it, of the two of us, I am probably more likely to like shrink myself down and become a salmon.
Speaker 1:True, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is accurate, I just want the clothes. Yeah, that's fair, I'm there for the fashions. What are we?
Speaker 2:talking about this week, well-. New record for being off the rails.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's why people are here. This is the show. So, oddly enough, we are here to talk about Gayshit.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So do you want to introduce the movie that we went and saw the other oh, we should go see Bottoms.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Talking about Gayshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard Bottoms and I just naturally assumed it was going to be about Bottoms, but it's not. It's not.
Speaker 1:It's actually a film about two lesbians, and not just lesbians. It's a film by Emma Seigler, or sorry, seigelman names.
Speaker 2:We know that Names you were bad with-.
Speaker 1:Names. It's not my forte, but it's an American teen sex comedy and I think the thing is that so often when we think of teen sex comedies, we think of American pie and we think of like, could we say, clueless is involved.
Speaker 2:No, it's not a sex comedy, but it is a teen comedy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, and like I guess what I'm trying to get at is that it's usually more heteronormative, yeah it's, I mean, yeah, the super bads of the world. Yes.
Speaker 2:And it felt do you know? What it reminded me of? It was Booksmart.
Speaker 1:Yes, you said that Big Booksmart vibes Immediately after we saw it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like I loved it because I loved Booksmart and I'm like I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:For those of you who have not seen Booksmart, you should definitely watch it. It's really great.
Speaker 2:So you have less problematic hill.
Speaker 1:We didn't know, we didn't know. But okay, anyways, we should talk about bottoms, bottoms, because we're getting off, yeah.
Speaker 2:So the two least popular people in school start a women's self-defense group, which just turns into like a fight club for women.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what's funny about this is that the reason why they have ulterior motives for starting this group. It's not just a room like a self-defense group. It's a way for them to actually flirt and get to know the two people that they are crushing on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, you know. They pretend to go to juvenile hall and they start this self-defense group to pick up chicks. It's very like gay teen sex movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean, let's be honest, who has a?
Speaker 2:male avatar. Are you going to be like?
Speaker 1:we've opened there. Yeah, I've been like I've done that before. Huh, wait, didn't you? Well? Everyone thought I was a boy back then, so no, Well, I mean, I remember back in my high school days I think I've actually told you this I used to, I used to have a little bit of a scrapper history.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:So back in my day I did used to beat up people when I was like okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was how you flirted with people.
Speaker 1:I don't think. Well, yeah, I feel I don't know. I think it's like yes and no. I think sometimes you don't have the language to communicate how you're feeling and that is. You say it with fist attacks. Yeah, I did with my fist.
Speaker 2:So the I was like, yeah, the I got beat up in school and my only experience that was even tangentially related to a fight club was that when I was in elementary school, a bunch of like sixth graders watched fight club and sprinkled Y all over the playground. Yeah, dude, new market.
Speaker 1:What? Yeah, I think the great thing about bottoms was that we saw a lot of character like, we saw a lot of jokes that were like very real but also there was a storyline here where the characters some of them are not redeemable, but you were also like, wow, I see myself in this and I relate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I don't want to be like it was satire, but like it was like satire adjacent. They had some social commentary going on. I loved the. I mean the whole jock situation was 100%.
Speaker 1:Yes, so the jocks were probably the guy who played the head jock. What was his name again? Oh God, jeff, jeff, jeff was like the best character because he was so on point the entire film where he was just like, but but what about Jeff?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Big Ego, overtly sexual like the like, yeah, the most like stereotypically like jock jock of all time yes, and his favorite was his. Like his best buddy, yes, who was like doing the undercover work to find out if the girls actually did go to juvenile hall, yes, and then sets up one of the supporting like one of the other founding members in a fight match to see if how good and effective the actual thing was against the top boxer.
Speaker 2:But like, yeah, the whole, like I, I think I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I feel like we watched it a couple of weeks back. We did I'm like I feel like it was like a slower start, but once it got going it was just like holy shit.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree, and we talked about this after the teacher who sponsors the fight club is such an underrated character.
Speaker 2:Oh my Well he, he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:I didn't really like I knew he was actually an athlete.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I didn't realize he had won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, yeah no and the whole thing was start to finish very fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very fun. I think I've seen a lot of critical praise for bottoms and I think this is Emma Siegelman. Did I say that right this time? Oh, yes, okay, great, this is their second film.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:I think you know, if you haven't had the opportunity to see it yet, I think you should go and see it. It's definitely like it's a great time.
Speaker 2:I think we were outside the target demo for it, but like we had a great time, like I had seen this in high school. I think like it would have been like.
Speaker 1:I don't think we were outside of the target demo. No, no, not at all. All the people that I have talked to so far have been like queer folks who have been going to see it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I guess it's sort of like the like hey, we were gay in high school and not celebrated, and this really hits close to home for us.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, yeah, I think it's for gay people, period. That's it Like. This one's for the gays, this one's for the gays, she's the gays. Like, if you want something to laugh at, this is it. But it's solid eight. Huh, it's solid eight. Oh well, that's good yeah. I mean I was going to give it like a nine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could be convinced of a nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would watch it again. I would watch it again Very gladly.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, if you're looking for something to go watch, definitely. If you're looking to go into a theater, yeah, that's what you should go watch. That's what you should go watch. It's great.
Speaker 2:You've been watching some more highbrow films.
Speaker 1:I mean, someone's got to put the highbrow into this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I mean you came home from getting your nails done and I was like I watched two horror movies. I knew One of them was very problematic. And the other one was like artsy horror and I did not enjoy it.
Speaker 1:I guess you don't want to out yourself on the podcast either, the problematic film. Oh yeah, no, I'll say it.
Speaker 2:Like I got everyone was recommending I watch Possum, which was like a 2018 very like it was based on a uncanny short story. Like where they were trying to like explore the concept of uncanniness and like they did an excellent job. Like it's about a disgraced puppeteer who goes home to dispose of a puppet named Possum and the puppet itself is fucking terrifying. The acting was very good, is there anyone?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, it's very British it's like very very British.
Speaker 2:Where did you watch it? I watched it on Shutter, oh okay, yeah, and no, like it was, the story was like very nothing. It was like a nothing sandwich. Very ambitious, it felt like an infinity pool, which I also didn't enjoy.
Speaker 1:Yes, we did an entire episode about.
Speaker 2:But if you like infinity pool, you'll probably like Possum. So the cinematography is great, but Possum the drama was pretty good. It's very dark, like thematically, as well as brightness. Wise Got it okay, and then the one that I'm like this is a problematic fave was Terrifier. Yes, which came out in 2016,.
Speaker 1:I think also on Shutter. No, that one was on 2B. Okay. Yeah so so I gotta like before you continue has so many great like specifically horror films, Lots of lots of B movies like I watched.
Speaker 2:Killer Clowns from outer space.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like I love campy, like B films, so Shutter's a 2B and it's all free.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so no, I and like but yeah, terrifier I that one was like such a divisive movie when it came. Everyone's like it's Torture porn and like I tend to not enjoy those movies anymore yeah, in my old age. But I was like it just kept like rattling around in my head and I was like I gotta watch this fucking movie Because, like the way I pitched it to you after I watched it was like it's like if Jimbo the Clown was in fucking an 80s slasher movie.
Speaker 1:And honestly, that pitched to me I was like I wanna watch that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the villain Art the Clown is silent the entire movie.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's the guy who plays him is so physical. It's very like you want to watch it for him, just for him. And they made a sequel likely just because of him.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think I also said to you like I really didn't like that they, the women, were in the movie to suffer and they weren't fleshed out. I think the director has publicly come out and said like I regret not developing these characters, like this was very much like like a spectacle. Yeah, but it was like both of the movies were 88 minutes, like so under Wait, we love a short. Yes, and that's why I wasn't mad about Possum.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I was like it wasn't the fucking slog that Infinity Pool was yes. And why I thought Terrifier was fun and I like watched it again with you. Yeah, Tell us about the Hybride movies. So tell us about your culture movies.
Speaker 1:Yes, this week I ended up going to TIFF. For those of you who don't know, that is the Toronto International.
Speaker 2:Film Festival it's international.
Speaker 1:Everybody knows it's international and it's been a few years since I've gone, mostly because, yeah, yes, the pandemic. And previously I was going to TIFF as a freelance journalist and I was covering the after parties and not actually going to see films.
Speaker 2:We got to go to a few gifting lounges one year. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that was yeah. Let's not talk about that, let's not talk about films.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the first film that I went and saw was Origin, which was Eva Dufournay Is that how you pronounce her?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure you saw the movie.
Speaker 1:I know, but I am bad at pronouncing names. Yeah, anyways, origin, it was a very wonderful film. It is based off of Isabelle Wilkerson's book Cast and essentially it does a look at the cast system, obviously, but essentially it also takes a look at journalist Isabelle Wilkerson, her process of writing this book, and also not just her process in writing this book but also her research into what the cast system is and just the history behind cast in sort of, you know, slavery in America, but also the Holocaust and also the Indian. What was it? The cast system? Yeah, yes, no, but in India, was it the undesirables?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, so undesirables, yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, so it was very well done. The acting was incredible, the story was amazing and I know when we were talking about it, you were kind of like, oh well, it was just like about the book, right, and I was like no, no, no, no, no. Like it incorporated a lot about her own life. It incorporated about her own story. It brought in history. I think it's a really great film for individuals who are really trying to learn more about how, like this isn't just about racism, this isn't just about like it's about the systems of racism. It is about the systems of racism, yeah, it is about. One of the things that I really took away from the film was just about how this is something that is continuing to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know we're seeing this happen currently with trans people right now, and it doesn't really matter who you are or you know what race you are or where you're from, it's just like yeah.
Speaker 2:No one's free until the least free among us are.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I seem to remember you saying like the release date of the book was two weeks before. Yeah, the George Floyd incidents.
Speaker 1:Yes, that is correct and the book cast stayed on the best sellers list for almost two years and that is sort of was in the closing credits, mostly because George Floyd happened and then the 2020 presidential election happened and all of these things happen. So, honestly, like I haven't read, cast the book, I've read so many other books and going into this film, I didn't feel like I needed to read the book.
Speaker 1:I just was like this is a topic that I am super interested in and like, yeah, so it's gonna be released shortly nationally. It's already been to the Venice Film Festival and, honestly, if you are interested in learning more about race inequality, these types of top Systems of oppression, yeah systems of oppression. Honestly, I would go and see it. I think it's great and it's worth taking the time to watch. I will note that it is a longer film Three hours, yeah, like close to three hours. So you know, get prepared. I cried.
Speaker 2:Everybody. You were saying everyone was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was someone in the theater that was like literally sobbing, so like it's a difficult watch, but it's an important watch. I think that's the main takeaway. The other film that I saw, however, on the opposite spectrum was the Little Nas X documentary. Was it? Long Live Montero. And it's his concert documentary showing how he sort of brought together his concert tour last year but also talking about like his entire sort of rise to fame and also coming out as a gay black man in America currently. Why I wanted to go and see it was one I went to the concert tour last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was gonna say and the concert was great.
Speaker 1:It was phenomenal. If you.
Speaker 2:You cried at that one too, I think I did cry. I remember sending you texts while I was at the show but I was like sobbing this is so good.
Speaker 1:If there's anything that you should take away from this, it's that, like You're very passionate, I'm very passionate about the things that I love. So, and the other thing is, when I went to the Little Nas X show I was so far back, so it was really great to go see this documentary where I could relive the show and actually see in clear like the vision that he was trying to put forth to his fans. In Toronto the show was at RBC Echo Beach and like that place is so big but it's for the show that he was trying to have. It was like, in my opinion, not the best place for that show. Anyways, that's so far beyond the documentary. The documentary was really great because he talked about growing up in Atlanta and how like his family was not accepting of his queerness and how he originally went to school to become a doctor and how this concert tour was like a love story to him being a child and like rediscovering who he was and how he does so much for his nephews to sort of like not hate gay people.
Speaker 1:You're saying like there's just one clip of him being like don't be homophobic, yeah, and how he talked about people protesting at his shows and how he was like wow, that's kind of like, that's kind of lit, like, that's so rock and roll, like who could imagine that ever happening. But on the opposite side of that he was talking about how it has like such a huge like tool on his own mental health because so many people expect him to be so much of everything, and he was like I try and take so much of that on, but like I'm only one person and I can't do everything. So I think it was really great to sort of have this film show like as a gay black man in America who's literally only in their 20s.
Speaker 2:Like you were saying, like when Old Town Road came out, like he was like a teenager, right?
Speaker 1:He was very young, Like they showed a clip that he recorded and he was literally like it was in his bathroom at his old house. He was wolfing down, I think it was like a hamburger and it was just like so wholesome. And I think the thing is, is that like we put as a society so much on other people to have all of the answers and all of the ex, like we put all of these expectations on people, and it's like he's literally also just trying to figure shit out as well, just like me and you.
Speaker 2:Where everybody's just trying to figure stuff out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're all living in a society.
Speaker 2:We are living, thank you. Thank you, miss Joker.
Speaker 1:Anyways, it was great. I really enjoyed it. I'm sure it is gonna come in Toronto. We have a theater here called Hot Docs. I have a membership. It is a wonderful theater. I am part of the arts and society. But, like, honestly, if you have a theater in your city or town that shows documentaries or anything like that or you can just, you know, stream it somewhere. I would highly recommend seeing it. It's so good.
Speaker 2:I know we're almost at time, but can we do another 10 minutes and talk about Vanger Pump?
Speaker 1:You don't have to choice my answer.
Speaker 2:I know we're on season nine.
Speaker 1:Yes, we are at season nine. I was literally talking to Rebecca, my nail person, about this today and I was like remember how the last time I saw you, which was like a month ago, I said we had just like, I don't even think of it Anyways.
Speaker 2:We started it right before my surgery.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's been about a month. We're on season nine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're almost caught up. And, like I was saying to you, I think it's so funny that I am watching this in the same way that you watched it, which was at the beginning of the pandemic. Desperately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember you'd be like Emma, you should come to bed. What are you doing? And I'm like I have to watch another episode of it and I remember the next morning.
Speaker 2:I'd be like when did you come to bed? You were like three, four. I slept out here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you'd still be watching it.
Speaker 2:I have to watch more, but season season eight happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember, as we were going into season eight, I was like one. When we get to the end, I have to like explain some things to you. Some things happen between eight and nine, but they don't talk about they don't talk about, which I will need to explain to you One and two. The season is mid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember my the entire way through. They'd keep cutting to max and I'd be like I'll fucking care about max.
Speaker 1:Who the fuck cares about max and Brett and Danica?
Speaker 2:Well, my, my, I was like why did they cast two skinny blonde white women with named Danica and Dana?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And I was like oh God. Anyways, season eight was fine it happened. I'm glad the bow proposed to Stasi. I think that, like, obviously we're good to talk spoilers, anyways, yeah, I mean the fact that, like, max and Brett got fired, but then the fact that Stasi and Kristen got fired. I did not see that coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to say a controversial, you're brave statement.
Speaker 2:Uh huh. Careful you just talked about. You know the movie you watched about like systematic yeah, I know, I know Systems of oppression.
Speaker 1:Yes, I am aware, Re-watching all of these seasons, Stasi has and I know, I know what's, I know what happened. Stasi seems to have been the voice of reason.
Speaker 2:Stasi so she's shown growth. She has her moments where she's. I'm like, oh yeah, you're the voice of the people.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And like, but then the dark basseter shows up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like I know, I know what happened, which is why they were, why she was fired.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm like I I know like she obviously needed to atone for her. Yeah, I mean remember when.
Speaker 2:Remember when Ariana was like yeah, she's fucking racist, and then Billy Lee went on the show and was like I heard you're racist and she's like I'm not racist. And then she goes and does the most racist fucking thing yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So like Stasi girl, it's like Ariana was spit in facts, like she like the last hole.
Speaker 2:However, I still think that, like we needed a Stasi and as the voice of reason, not as the racist piece of shit, but like right, right right. And now I think my, my, my prediction is that they're going to try to like put Lala in the Stasi position. Yes, Because they have similar kind of like bougie energy.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree with you so, but yeah.
Speaker 2:I I am going to miss the chaos that Jack springs.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to miss Jack's. No, because who could miss Jack's?
Speaker 2:I mean, he is the number one guy. He is the number one guy, I am excited about watching him on the villains show House of villains.
Speaker 1:Yeah, If you don't know about House of Villains, I think we talked about it, yeah, but like we need to find out. Jack's Taylor, jack's Taylor, all, all.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited. But yeah, no, he was his particular stuff where he would just like say one thing and then go to the other person and say that he, he would have talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Speaker 1:He'd be like convince people to say things. I remember I brought this up at his wedding. He got mad that his mom didn't contact him and I was like he hasn't spoken to her in literal months and he didn't invite her to any event. Like why would she contact him? She like she seems, and I don't know her, but for for, if we are to infer, for for what we know, she seems like a reasonable human.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean like to get personal for a second. Like Jackson, I went through a very similar thing with our parents or dad and I don't want to be like yeah, he's getting over it, because like obviously it's taken me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Almost two decades to do that, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and what? What? I think what I said to you was she's probably trying to respect his boundary that he has set, and him being like why didn't she contact me? Is like the opposite of that.
Speaker 2:The thing that I can shit talk jacks for is him continuing to insist that Tom Sandoval did not try to contact him and Tom being like you have the text and then they cut to him telling him that he texted him and Jack's reading it and acknowledging and he's like I don't remember that happening and Andy like called it and was like you don't want you need to watch the fucking show because we are reacting to things that you did and you are just reacting to the memory Narcissism I'm so excited to see because I'm watching season nine with eyes wide open like creed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that was arms, arms wide open. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Doesn't matter, yeah, and I know, I know Scandival.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we just saw James proposed to Raquel.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we saw the part that Sandoval played in James proposing to Raquel. Yeah, I was just like the whole time I'm just like he's dropping bams on this girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like who does that?
Speaker 2:Who does that? I'm sure she's a perfectly nice person, but they don't have a relationship. Him and James kind of have a relationship, but it's mixed. I'm just like girl.
Speaker 1:Also like I feel bad saying this, knowing what we know now, but she's not the sharpest knife in the door.
Speaker 2:I remember on one. So I realized that it was Raquel that Sanival cheated on with, like in season eight, yeah, and I was like oh, because they played like a preview for the next season of Interpound. And I was like wait, it was Raquel. And I just immediately flashed to the scene like the bit in Arrested Development. I am like I'm sure she's. No, I'm sure she's a lovely person, but there's something that unsettles me and it's the fact that she does not blink.
Speaker 1:Yes, you kept saying this.
Speaker 2:You're like she doesn't blink she blinks in the confessional, but never, ever, any other time.
Speaker 1:It's so unhinged I'm just like because I remember being like there's something wrong with her.
Speaker 2:She hits her eyebrows. I'm like no, her eyebrows are fine.
Speaker 1:And then just this season I was like she doesn't blink.
Speaker 2:She doesn't blink, she's fucking night crawler.
Speaker 1:She doesn't blink. Well, I think, I think we should end it there, because we should go watch more Vanderpump. Let's go watch more Vanderpump.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Watch Tarrafire watch. Vanderpump make a night out of it.
Speaker 1:Bingo, bingo. How did it Just tell the folks where they?
Speaker 2:can find us Well. First of all, thank you for listening.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, thank you for listening. I really appreciate it. We do.
Speaker 2:It's like one of the highlights of a week. It is. It genuinely is whenever we record the podcast, even though we always leave it the last second, but you know.
Speaker 1:Don't tell them our secrets.
Speaker 2:ADHD and autism and putting things off. Hey yeah, if you are interested in supporting us, please follow us on social media. We're everywhere except for Twitter, because Twitter doesn't exist at high. Low brow pod, that's H-I-G-H, low brow pod P-O-D. You can find us at highlowbrowpodcom. You can leave us a voicemail, have we?
Speaker 1:got voicemails. I haven't gotten one to date, but I mean, please send us voicemails. Yeah, we want to hear your lovely voices yeah. If you want, you can also leave us a review on either Apple or wherever you listen to podcasts. That would really help us in the algorithm. Drop a five star, yeah.
Speaker 2:I would like to beat the Joe Rogan podcast.
Speaker 1:Okay, I would, I mean I would too. Yeah, I'm not sure that's going to happen anytime soon.
Speaker 2:I don't. I'm not either, but, like you know, yeah, hopes and dreams, I'll call it a dream?
Speaker 1:Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers. I think that's it Is there anything else?
Speaker 2:I'll go back next week. Yeah, not next week, two weeks from now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, two weeks from now.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, two things, two things. One, we are talking about doing an off season live watch or something, so stay tuned for more details and that won't be until like December, but I'm very excited about it. And two, I was thinking about what we can do to sign off, because I'm like like a bit to make sure people actually stick around to the end, right? Sure, okay, hear me out. I think we should do a psychic test. So we're going to like, I'm going to say like we're going to say a noun, and we'll go one, two, three and then we'll say a purple. Purple is not a noun. You can play along at home and see that if you are on the same frequency as us, because we always say same person, right, yeah, same person.
Speaker 1:Okay so thanks again.
Speaker 2:Let's do our second test One, two, oh noun, noun, actual noun this time. One, two, three ginger, ale you didn't say it.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, okay, let's try again. That was, that was the yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:We'll verb this time.
Speaker 1:Let's just oh my.
Speaker 2:God, emma, we'll see you in two weeks. Bye, bye.