High Low Brow

Experiencing Ben Schwartz & Friends plus our Latest TV Obsessions: Hacks

June 23, 2024 Amanda Scriver and River Gilbert Season 4 Episode 10
Experiencing Ben Schwartz & Friends plus our Latest TV Obsessions: Hacks
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High Low Brow
Experiencing Ben Schwartz & Friends plus our Latest TV Obsessions: Hacks
Jun 23, 2024 Season 4 Episode 10
Amanda Scriver and River Gilbert

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In this week's episode, we're gushing over Charli XCX's brand new album "Brat" and talking about how Kendrick Lamar's incredible Pop Out — Ken & Friends show where he played 'Not Like Us' six times!

Finally, we discuss our experience at the Ben Schwartz and Friends show in Niagara Falls, which featured Colton Dunn, Drew Tarver, and Jim Woods. Then, we talk about our latest TV obsession, "Hacks," and share why it's one of the smartest comedians on-air right now. Tune in for a rollercoaster of emotions, laughs, and insights!

SHOW NOTES

  1. Charli XCX's new album, Brat
  2. Kendrick Lamar’s Pop Out Concert: A West Coast Reunion and Unforgettable Haters’ Ball - Pitchfork

  3. Kocchi no Kento earmworm 
  4. Hannah Einbinder: Everything Must Go comedy special on HBO Max

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Send us a Text Message.

In this week's episode, we're gushing over Charli XCX's brand new album "Brat" and talking about how Kendrick Lamar's incredible Pop Out — Ken & Friends show where he played 'Not Like Us' six times!

Finally, we discuss our experience at the Ben Schwartz and Friends show in Niagara Falls, which featured Colton Dunn, Drew Tarver, and Jim Woods. Then, we talk about our latest TV obsession, "Hacks," and share why it's one of the smartest comedians on-air right now. Tune in for a rollercoaster of emotions, laughs, and insights!

SHOW NOTES

  1. Charli XCX's new album, Brat
  2. Kendrick Lamar’s Pop Out Concert: A West Coast Reunion and Unforgettable Haters’ Ball - Pitchfork

  3. Kocchi no Kento earmworm 
  4. Hannah Einbinder: Everything Must Go comedy special on HBO Max

Support the Show.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to High Low Brow, the show with highbrow takes on lowbrow culture. I'm your one host, Amanda Scratford.

Speaker 2:

And I'm everywhere. I'm so, Julia River Gilbert.

Speaker 1:

You're such a brat. I know I am obsessed with the album.

Speaker 2:

It's such a good album. What's your favorite song on it?

Speaker 1:

I don't like I really love club classics, but also like how am I supposed to pick up?

Speaker 2:

I know I was like thinking about it last night and I was like I think my favorite is probably Von Dutch but, also like they're all so good yeah, how did you ever in your lifetime ever own any Von Dutch clothing? No, I did not. I didn't even know it was clothing oh my, my god, stop.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I had a Von Dutch trucker hat, as you know.

Speaker 2:

As one does, as one does yeah, like circa Paris Hilton I see it was just the time. It was just the time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I also. I don't think I told you this, but I bought Brat on vinyl.

Speaker 2:

Hell yes, I was going to. So wait. Did you buy Brat, or did you buy uh, brat plus three songs? So it's different. I bought Brat. Okay, that's like both are obviously fine it's just one of them is green and one of them is white.

Speaker 1:

Well, if you go on to the Charlie XCX shop, they they have several different iterations, but they're deluxe pressing yeah, like almost everything is sold out. So when I went on, they had a pressing that's like a black clear vinyl or something like this.

Speaker 2:

So that's what I got. I just meant the sleeve, not the actual record.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, anyways, I well, I'm talking about everything, yeah everything.

Speaker 2:

Uh, it's been a week.

Speaker 1:

It has been a week I, we almost didn't record this we almost didn't record.

Speaker 2:

I thought I sprained both of my ankles. Uh, turns out it's just one and the other one is just strained too much skateboarding, yeah literally, it was an accident that could not have been avoided except being better.

Speaker 1:

So it's just, it is what it is. You should just be better. Well, yeah, it's get good.

Speaker 2:

Learn to be good, yeah and you had a ruptured ovarian cyst yeah, uh, I don't recommend it zero out of ten yeah, it was.

Speaker 1:

it's so funny because earlier in the week I was having some other symptoms and I just figured it was like, oh yeah, just being a woman is terrible, so this is probably all that is. And then, no, saturday it was just like oh, here, here's this stabbing pain in your abdomen. Yeah, yeah, not great, but I'm okay. I mean, I, I know. When I told you you were like, oh my god, you're gonna have to go to the hospital.

Speaker 2:

Please don't let this go septic yeah and I'm like, I'm sure, it's probably fine.

Speaker 1:

We settled on, it's probably fine yeah, and I feel fine today and there's no fever and there's no nausea, and that this is why you're getting an episode emma, what this week is making your brain go? Brr well, it was, it was brat it was brat, it was almost brat for me as well well, I mean, we should have just made this episode about brat yeah, mine is not brat, though oddly enough, I think I showed you this song.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's viral on tiktok, but it's uh high yorokondai by kochi no kento.

Speaker 1:

It just slaps so hard oh, is this the one that was said to that anime?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah we'll certainly insert it into show notes, but it slaps so hard I love it.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's it was very good. Yeah, I'm not mad that I actually. I just thought of something. What's making my brain go, burr? Is kendrick lamar having a concert that was streamed on amazon Prime on Juneteenth, where he brought together the Crips and the Bloods and then sang Not Like Us six?

Speaker 2:

times, six times, it's just.

Speaker 1:

Oh, and I don't I think not to interrupt, and people clocked that he was dressed like Drake in Hotline Bling.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, I think that that performance, everyone's brain was going burr yeah that was. That was the brain. Burr moment was not like us yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1:

It reminds me of when kanye and jay-z were touring together for their what's the album? Paris.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in Paris yeah.

Speaker 1:

But every show that they did, they would always sing it at N Word in Paris.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But they would always do it multiple times, yes, so it gave me like such nostalgia for that Big, that vibes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was the first thing I thought of too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and did I ever tell you that I went to the Jay-Z and Kanye?

Speaker 2:

Shut up. I knew you went to the Kanye concert yeah, I did, but I didn't know you went to go see Jay-Z and Kanye.

Speaker 1:

That would have been a show Good, it was incredible, I mean.

Speaker 2:

You know problematic fave.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, things have obviously changed.

Speaker 2:

We don't stand billionaires. We don't stand Kanye. But, you know, I mean at that time, at that time art from artists, all that fun stuff yeah, so that that's.

Speaker 1:

That's another thing that's making my brain go burr that's a good brain, burr I mean, yeah, especially just like I'm getting. I'm so deep into the like conspiracy theory, tiktok of, like kendrick did this on Juneteenth so that you know, because Aubrey is biracial and yada, I'm just like I love all of this Also knowing that you can only take it with a grain of salt. Actually, I just thought of something else.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, that I swear we can start Info dump this. This is what Brangleburg is all about.

Speaker 1:

Justin Timberlake being arrested on a dui this is going to disrupt the tour.

Speaker 2:

What tour?

Speaker 1:

the world tour and, like god, I'm pretty sure the arrest happened on the summer solstice as well oh my god, so like again the other part of the internet that I'm a part of it's just like all just a timber lake dui memes and being like this is for britney and janet. Oh my god, I'm done now.

Speaker 2:

No, hey, I loved it, but literally that's what this part of the show was about I mean, it's been a good brain go brr brain has gone brr. Yeah, has gone brr. What are we talking about this week?

Speaker 1:

well, we're talking about how last weekend, we actually went to niagara so that we could see ben schwartz live. Yes, more specifically, ben schwartz and friends ben schwartz and friends and we have just finished all three seasons of Hacks.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we have so.

Speaker 1:

I feel like now we are perfectly qualified to talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Shall we talk about the Ben Schwartz? That's the one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, let's talk about the Ben Schwartz show first.

Speaker 2:

When so you got the tickets for me for Christmas and. I thought that it was going to be just a Ben Schwartz stand-up show oh, no, no, no but it was more akin to like it was long form improv. I thought it was also going to be like a middle ditch and Schwartz where they did like a continuous hour to hour and a half set yeah it wasn't that, no, it was not.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it was, it was great. Oh, it was great. Absolutely it was not. I mean, it was, it was great, oh, it was great.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, it was just one of those. If you have a chance to go see it and you're like what shall I expect? It's like uh, don't expect anything Like it's.

Speaker 1:

I know we were trying to look up online like how long the show was and some people were like it's 30 minutes to three hours.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What that's like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is a so hours was.

Speaker 1:

I think an hour and a half 50, 56 minutes. Something like that. I thought it was like an hour and a half.

Speaker 2:

Wasn't quite I know Cause, cause we got a ride. Shout out Steve. But we. He was like, yeah, just text me when you're done. And we texted him, you're done already and we're like, yeah, ben schwartz had three guests. Uh, they had colton dunn from superstore, superstore. They had drew taver yep from the two of us.

Speaker 1:

The other two yeah the two of us, the two of us, the other two uh, and someone I had never heard of until now was jim woods yes, apparently he is a improv legend yeah I think so, when Ben Schwartz came up on stage and was sort of like giving the audience like this is what the show was going to be about One.

Speaker 1:

if you go and look on Ben Schwartz's Instagram, I think the two people who are normally on like do these shows with him are Jim Woods and Drew Traver. What Ben mentioned on stage was that normally they have like a woman who is part of the like friend group, but she had to cancel last night.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So we got stuck with Colton Dunn.

Speaker 2:

I mean I was shocked. I was like wait, what? Yeah? Like, cause I knew him from before Superstore. I knew him from the. If Google was a person on college humor, okay, during the pandemic he was the one who had the poor syntax when he was talking to google. So the format of the show was they got they did an audience q a they turned up the house lights.

Speaker 2:

They were like okay, so we're gonna ask you for the most interesting night of your life, and a lot of you might think that you have a story and then you'll start telling it and it's one sentence and I hate to break it to you, but that is not an interesting story. So they told the audience. One of them told a story about how they were grilling brats and old people told them that they were doing it wrong and then they went to.

Speaker 1:

I think you're. You're skipping the whole first half of the story. The first half was that they met these people. They were camping or something, something like this, cottaging or whatever, and they met these people that they did not know and these people were like hey, there's an island we have a private island yeah, or like I don't know if it was theirs.

Speaker 1:

There was some speak of a private island. We have a boat, you want to come out with us. And they were like, sure, let's do this. So they get into the boat and then it dies dies.

Speaker 2:

So they were apparently like 50 feet out from shore so they barely got out there. They found out it was a new boat. They ended up having to jump into the water and pull the boat back to shore, yeah, and then apparently did a bad job of grilling bratwursts yeah, and that was that was that was the story. I was like okay.

Speaker 1:

And then they were like what were these people like?

Speaker 2:

um kind of bro-y yeah, yeah, kind of douchey yeah, and then the second story was about how obama grounded this uh, 15 year old's flight and she got stranded in a bad part of town for four days something like yeah anyways, it was. They built a series of vignettes around those two stories.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

So it wasn't like a continuous through line. They obviously had callbacks, yeah, but it was no breaks in between. It was all gas, no breaks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the other thing about it was that it wasn't like we're just going to take these two stories that you've told us and we're going to like take them to another level.

Speaker 2:

Like they reinterpreted. Yeah, entirely. My favorite bit was they envisioned Obama as just fucking up everybody's day. Yes, and that was a lot of fun for me.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, I can't. I can't really think about what my favorite part was.

Speaker 2:

That's fair. It was, I mean, like all improv it was. There were hits, there were misses. It was a fun time I had a really nice time.

Speaker 1:

It was a really good time and I think the thing is is that, like I like I thought they could have done a bit more, but also I am not an improv master. I don't know how much is too much.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that was the only Outside of like whose line. That's like the only good improv I've ever seen.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

I don't like improv and I think that's like a stereotype nowadays, where it's like people who do improv are insufferable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's funny because there's actually an improv scene in Hacks.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's how I was going to segue into it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to steal your point. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2:

In this most recent series or season, excuse me, I'm not British. The penultimate episode has Debra Vance receiving a honorary degree. Yes, and she does an improv show. They're like all right, let's just warm up with some zip zap zop.

Speaker 1:

and she was like absolutely not yeah, they get to her and she's like no no, we're not doing that they have to give her a whole explanation it's actually more.

Speaker 2:

Yes and yeah, so for the people who don't know what, what is Hacks?

Speaker 1:

So it's interesting because there is an Instagram account. Primarily all they talk about is TV. His name is Michael, but on Instagram he goes by TV Scholar. He also has a great oh yeah, he has a great sub stack everything we were supposed to have him on the podcast.

Speaker 2:

The podcast.

Speaker 1:

This is one time, but anyways, I found out about Hacks through Michael, a TV scholar, and essentially what Hacks is about is about Deborah Vance, who's played by Jean Smart, and she is a old school comedian who has a Las Vegas show.

Speaker 2:

Longest running Vegas show. Yes, and she hasn't changed her material in 20 years yeah.

Speaker 1:

Hasn't changed her material. Is looking for like some kind of refresh. So her agent sets her up with this writer.

Speaker 2:

Ava Daniels oh yeah. Hannah is the real name. Yes, yeah, my bad.

Speaker 1:

Ava Daniels Einbinder.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hannah Einbinder yes, and Ava Daniels Einbinder yeah, hannah.

Speaker 1:

Einbinder yes, and Ava is going through in this very first season when they're getting matched. Ava's going through a bit of a rough time. She's been canceled on the internet for some of her jokes. Nobody wants to hire her, so her taking this role with Deb is sort of a last ditch effort.

Speaker 2:

They're both quote unquote washed up, can't progress. They've been stuck in a rut, they've been pigeonholed, and neither of them want this. And it's just about their unlikely friendship.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that develops. So I think you know the first season was really good at showing them sort of coming together as two people who are like one's a boomer, one's gen z it's very like stereotypical boomer.

Speaker 2:

Ava's character does not read as gen z as much. To me she reads more as like younger millennial yeah, I agree I mean they?

Speaker 1:

that was like all what they talked about in one of the episodes where she's like.

Speaker 2:

actually, I'm not a millennial, I am Gen Z. And it's like right, but like the way that you're coming at these issues is less militant than Gen Z would be, because Gen Z is still kind of young, yeah, and millennials are burnt out.

Speaker 1:

It's very true, we are all burnt out. It's very true, we are all burnt out, but I think it was. What I really loved about the show is just like how unapologetic it is like it's very queer. A lot of the cast members are actually queer themselves or identify as non-binary megan stalter, you know. Oh my god she's so good. Yeah, you will know, megan, by High Gaze.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, happy Pride.

Speaker 1:

Month. She actually plays Ava and Deb's assistant like agent Manager's assistant, yeah, Assistant and does for what the role is.

Speaker 2:

She steals the show.

Speaker 1:

She steals, she's so good at it. She's so good Every time she's like her.

Speaker 2:

Her and her manager slash childhood friend Jimmy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Uh, it's just, it's like brother, sister vibes and she's like kind of sexualizing it. It's, it's so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

He has to go to HR about it. It's so funny they're like we can't do anything because she's the daughter of the man who owns?

Speaker 2:

this company yeah so yeah, uh, the thing that I really liked about it was, I mean, up until like the entire first season, I feel like there wasn't like drama like there was drama, but it was character driven it wasn't like uh, we can't have this person find out about this thing, and I think it does a really good job of like having the focal point not be tensions like built tensions about what happens when they find out. They just drop the find out immediately.

Speaker 2:

It's like the first season didn't have any of that. The second season, ava, ends up going to this other company and telling them all about the bad things that deborah has done to her, and which I want to say because, like she's supposed to be, gen z yeah, yeah, we have all wanted to do something like that, oh my god. And like to be fair, the things that deborah has done. It's like, oh well, this is like a hostile work environment. She literally slaps her.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she like, it's like the, the definition of toxic, you'll see she leaves her stranded in the desert in in the las vegas desert yeah it's like in like a broken down rules royce while she goes off in the helicopter. So she has every right to be this mad but, like yeah, there's a lot of like back and forth. There's periods of time where they're like best friends and they totally realize that they're each other's people, and there's other times where it's like we can't deal with this another character character that I thought really I don't want to say, stole the show but did a great job, is Debra Vance, has a daughter named DJ.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:

Caitlin Olsen, who's in Always Sunny.

Speaker 2:

She's Sweet D.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's, sweet D.

Speaker 2:

And she plays slightly nicer, sweet D. Yeah, slightly less chaotic I think she's just as chaotic, but I think it's that she. We see the reason why she's a bad person rather than seeing like just sweetie being a bad person.

Speaker 1:

Bad person for sure, and I think the other thing that I really appreciated, too is we give this uh storyline dj of a person who has dealt with drug and alcohol issues, who has been arrested, who's been through all these life things because they've had a traumatic upbringing being raised by their mom.

Speaker 2:

Who's been on the road since they were a kid, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And all they've ever wanted was to have their attention and love. I was like wow.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

This is, like so many people who like it, hit on motherhood. Yeah, the mother-child relationship so well. Like mothers and daughters especially those of us who have had toxic mothers or problematic relationships with family like I love the growth progression that it shows from the first season to the third season where it's like dj, we're not spoiling anything, but dj becomes pregnant with the person who she gets married to and you kind of see how motherhood like, how she's so afraid of certain things which, like also 100%, I have yeah, I was gonna say it's like, oh, wow, the going into it.

Speaker 2:

Like after the end of the first season I was like is this based on Joan Rivers? And apparently it's inspired by an amalgamation of people and Joan Rivers is one of them.

Speaker 1:

And it's like it's so clear. Yeah, I could definitely see Joan Rivers in that, like Melissa Rivers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, no, it's I. I loved that show, Like I think it was.

Speaker 1:

I mean, how long did it take us to finish all?

Speaker 2:

three seasons, week, two weeks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It like they're quick episodes. They're like 20 to 30 minute episodes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's my other beef, Not with the show, just in general.

Speaker 2:

All content is too long.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like we need to stop making an hour to an hour and a half television shows. Like I'm sorry, my ADHD can't. Please give me a good 30.

Speaker 2:

During our lunch break during the work week, we're usually like let's watch our YouTube, because those are quick things and we're used to like 10 to 14 minute content. That's perfect for us, but recently it's been like 30 to 40 minutes everything and it's like YouTube. Please stop changing this fucking algorithm so that we can have consistent timing, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm like sorry youtube. I like I know as someone who works in social media I all I've been hearing is how long form content it is is in and it is. However, there needs to be a mix of content. It's not just like 45 minutes to an hour. There can be some things that are 10 minutes or well. It doesn't help.

Speaker 2:

Like I, I do wonder how much of that is tailored by my own viewing habits because, like, I do have a youtube premium subscription and I do watch a ton of youtubes. Like I just I told you the other week, I'm like, yeah, I, yeah, I just finished that four hour Jenna Nicholson review of the discontinued Star Wars. I was like what is wrong with you? That's three Exumas.

Speaker 1:

I was like I would have just like watched the first 10 minutes and been like, yeah, I got it. No, she, she anyways anyways, you're like this is not what the episode is about. We're not talking about four hour long youtube like okay, yeah, d'angelo wallace, who we've also talked about before, in a previous episode like. I love d'angelo because his, his, his content is an hour to an hour and a half.

Speaker 1:

He's also done like 15 20 minute content yeah, but what I was gonna say is like he drops them like once a month, once every day like he drops them when he feels like it sporadically and you know that you're getting something thought out, well researched. You're getting a good piece of content well, that's just it.

Speaker 2:

That's what I liked about the jenna nicholson was she actually went to do this six thousand dollar disney experience did she actually pay six thousand? Yes, she did for a two-day experience. She were broken out. It was like thirty dollars a minute. She was like it was not worth it. Well, it's closed now. But hacks highly recommend. I like it. You can if you're motivated. You can whip through it in like a weekend.

Speaker 1:

If you are like depression maxing yeah, I mean I am really excited for the next season. I'm glad that we're all caught up oh my god, yeah I'm glad that people seem to be more and more people seem to be finding out about the show and watching it, because I feel like since we started watching it now my entire feed is just hacks content, yeah hacks content.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even know that hannah had a. It's an. I think it's a netflix comedy special. Oh, does she. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, eric could be on hbo comedy special. There's a comedy special out with hannah, which I'm like great. Now I gotta watch that, and a friend of mine said that actually she was here for just for laughs, I guess oh and we missed it, oh I remember that because we were like who is this?

Speaker 1:

yeah, we missed it. We didn't know, we didn't know. I feel like we missed out on something so great. And JFL's done now and JFL what happened?

Speaker 2:

to culture.

Speaker 1:

So funny because in the third season of Hacks they do a a whole like scene, a whole series. I think it was based on an entire episode but where they're at just for laughs in.

Speaker 2:

Montreal oh, they are at JFL.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm like that doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But that also makes sense because Hannah and Meg Salter were also. They were both at JVL.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, jvl, jvl, JVN, jfl. It's Jonathan Vint Laugh.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of JVN.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, I don't know why I think about this all the time, but every time now, when I hear JVN, I'm just like is JVN ever going to? They're like, oh, I don't have any.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sorry about it, so I don't have anything to add to this.

Speaker 1:

It makes me so disappointed. It makes me so disappointed for people in general, but also it's just like you can't avoid something and pretend it didn't exist. Because it did, you also can't blame Bobby for that.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, you can't blame it on the edit if it actually happened and it wasn't shown. I imagine more will come out when the next season of Queer Eye comes out.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think I was telling you, whoever their new designer is, which apparently Tan advocated for that they. Because Tan is friends with this person which was also a point, a bone of contention, but I guess while they were filming they kept posting all of these photos of all of them together, being like look at us, we're like best friends. Fab five again, yeah, and I was like no, you can't, you can't. Sorry, I don't believe you anymore this is bullshit, the internet is bullshit, everything is bullshit.

Speaker 2:

Everything is bullshit.

Speaker 1:

That was a total segue, but I just Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show, yeah. But I mean, yeah, I just I, I I look at photos and I just see it and I'm like it's, that's not real. Also, it's fine if you're all just like co-co-stars you, you record, you don't need to be best friends well, I just think about, like the mythbusters, jamie and adam.

Speaker 2:

They don't. It's not that they don't like each other, they just aren't friends in real life. Yeah, it's like oh yeah, I mean, yeah, we did a show for a decade and I respect him as a person. We're just not friends because we don't have shared interests beyond this, yeah, and I mean it's.

Speaker 1:

We have people like that when you have work.

Speaker 2:

Normalize, that you don't have to be friends with your coworkers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can be civil and kind and nice and you can get along and do a great job, but you don't have to be best friends with them. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I can count the number of co-workers that I have that I would uh actually go out and get a drink with. It's like two, maybe three.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna say four yeah, there's four of them okay, um five in a pinch, but four, four strong that that number keeps fluctuating? Is it just that you keep remembering?

Speaker 2:

I keep remembering yeah, I'm like, oh, I actually do like them.

Speaker 1:

Oh, they're not bad. I kind of enjoy them. Speaking of the Fab Five as well, it just reminds like I don't think we talked about it on any of the episodes, but we did try to subject ourselves to watching the Vanderpump Villa reunion special.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, yeah, and it was hosted by Karamo. It was. He's a bad host, First and foremost he's a bad host.

Speaker 1:

Well, I've never seen his talk show, his daytime talk show.

Speaker 2:

I've seen clips, okay, and he does hold people accountable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so like I think the format is not his forte, Well, I think that Hannah and Marciano wereannah from vanderpump villa. Yes, not not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm binder yeah, um, figured we'd need to clarify that. So we, they were just steamrolling everybody and not even like they were just. They were trumping them like they were just. They were trumping them Like they were just literally. You know how he goes like wrong. No, they were just doing that over everybody.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and I think here's the thing, being a Bravo historian myself and having watched a lot of reunion specials, the one thing that I can give Andy Cohen credit for is literally keeping things on track.

Speaker 2:

On track.

Speaker 1:

And sometimes what I've read and heard is that some of these reunion specials on bravo, the recordings can take anywhere from three to four hours I believe it. But it's also because if you're recording for that long, you can sort of like take breaks, you can like bring people back together, you can get them to calm down, you can sort of like do and I don't think that they did that- I think it was just done in one shot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I also think that lisa did a very bad job of facilitating. Like I feel, like in previous years reunions on vpr, that she has kind of been like no, that's not fair, like you need stop doing this, and she didn't do that at all when she really should have. I read cause obviously we didn't finish it, but I read that Marciano and Hannah basically yelled at her and I'm like okay, like I'm not a LVP, stan, by any means but, I, am like you don't do that to your employer.

Speaker 1:

Also, just like I get that Lisa is kind of a shit. What I find very interesting is, from her like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills days to now, there's more and more stuff coming out about like Lisa Vanderpump and she's also not a good person. It's almost like people who have a lot of money are not good people.

Speaker 2:

Kill your heroes.

Speaker 1:

But I'm just like cool. You were a producer on the show and you appeared on the show, but you're not even doing it.

Speaker 2:

Why are you here? She's a producer, in that she funded the endeavor probably Totally. Why are you here? You's a producer, in that she funded the endeavor probably Totally. Why are you here? You don't even go here. You even go here.

Speaker 1:

Go away, which I don't think, if Lisa wasn't there, that it would have made the reunion any better. Also, fuck that. I would have preferred a valley reunion over a manor.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, a hundred percent. I mean like I'm, just I'm, are they? They're doing season two of Villa but they're getting the Vanderpump, like the Bravo team, to actually produce it Right.

Speaker 1:

No, I have no idea. Oh, no, yeah, no, no, no, I think you're getting it.

Speaker 2:

Am I thinking of the Valley?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the Valley's coming back for season two, that's right.

Speaker 2:

All the entire same cast, but it's producers from the Bravoverse versus.

Speaker 1:

You're right. Yeah, so there is that, and if that is the case, then they will definitely make sure that there is a reunion.

Speaker 2:

We have an extra special guest, yeah we do Because we have an extra special guest. Yeah, we do because we have an extra special guest.

Speaker 1:

Shall we tell the people where to find us? Yeah, I think we should.

Speaker 2:

We've, we've rambled for too long. I love that.

Speaker 1:

It's like here's what we're talking about and another thing, and this is the thing that's pissing me off it's the opposite of what's making your brain go.

Speaker 2:

What's making your brain go? Brr negative yeah brr negative.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Find the show notes we're going to link to Hayao Arakonda.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can also leave us a review. That's at wwwhailabrowpodcom.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Yeah, we will see you next week. Pray for us that we don't have any more injuries or bodily organs rupturing.

Speaker 1:

We can't promise anything, no promises, but we're hoping for the best.

Speaker 2:

We're going to do our best to be on time, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Bye, bye.

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