Comicpalooza 2024 Wrap-Up: Unforgettable Moments and Epic Panels

Join the boys for an electrifying wrap-up episode that takes you back to all their best moments from Comicpalooza. From getting stuck in an elevator to attending panels featuring iconic figures like Michael J Fox and John Cena!! This episode has it all, from tons of laughs to fun insights. Plus a live recording from the con!! Don't miss out on this awesome recap from the boys experience at Comicpalooza 2024!!

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Comicpalooza 2024 Wrap-Up Episode

Merc 0:05

good evening , ladies and gentlemen . Thank you so much for tuning in to the wbm podcast . This is one of your hosts this your boy, merc .

xFer 0:11

Yo this is boy xFer .

Merc 0:15

and everybody boy here's boy oski , and the man guys , do we have one hell of a wrap-up episode for you , that's right guys .

xFer 0:22

We're taking you back to Comicpalooza 2024 .

Oski 0:26

Back in time , if you will , or back to the future , let's go .

Merc 0:30

This is our .

Oski 0:32

episode . That's right , We'll tell you all about our Comicpalooza and you also get to listen to our live episode from the con .

Merc 0:39

Yes , ladies , ladies and gentlemen , that's right , we got our live episode from the cons . We're looking forward to you guys . Ready , I'm ready , let's go , let's go and we're back .

Oski 1:07

Back for a whole nother week . So we did take a week off . If you're one of our weekly listeners , we did take a week off .

xFer 1:15

Thanks , Frankfurt .

Oski 1:16

Because we did a lot of work . But I wanted to make sure to release our Comic Palooza after show post show episode , Tell you a little bit of how funny it was . And you know we want you guys to listen to our panel as well , One of our panels , because we actually did multiple ones .

Merc 1:32

Yes and you guys did a lot of work .

Oski 1:34

It was a lot of work . You can watch all those panels on our YouTube channel , but in this episode you'll get to listen to one of our favorite ones .

Merc 1:41

Yes , you get the meat and potatoes in this one . Ladies and gentlemen , but before we get into that , yes , we're going to go and tell you guys some of our personal favorites and fan highlights from the con .

xFer 1:51

It was an eventful con man , I'm not going to lie . It was a rollercoaster of emotions . It went up and down like an elevator Wink , wink , wink , oh bro wink .

Oski 2:02

Oh bro , I guess we can get started with that so Friday night , friday night , it's Friday night and I feel alright where the party no , it's not .

Merc 2:13

Anyway , the party's here at George R Brown Center you know what ? And it was on May 24th to the 26th so we we had a great time when we were out there on Friday night , the first day . First day did we watch we walked around the con , we got a chance to go check everything out .

Oski 2:30

Oh , yeah , we kind of scoped it out yes because , uh , three-day cons , we like to scope it out friday .

Merc 2:36

We didn't have any work to get done on that specific day and , uh , we want to make sure to find all the rooms .

Oski 2:40

Yeah , we wanted to .

Merc 2:41

We like mapped out everything , location of everything yes , and so we could kind of just get our bearings for the uh , for the con where are all the restrooms ?

Oski 2:50

bro and that actually is another story that plugs in later on . Thank you so much for that , sir um , but going back to . Oh , we ended up going to the third floor to watch a panel . Yes , uh , I watch a podcasting panel that had ming chen and uh skywalking through neverland . Yes , a , a podcasting panel that had Ming Chen and Skywalking Through Neverland . Yes , great podcasting panel . Shout out to both their podcasts . Also , john Simmons was in the panel , the founder of Comicpalooza .

Oski 3:12

Shout out , john they gave a lot of good information , so it was a great panel on Friday night .

Merc 3:17

So after we got done watching this panel , we were getting ready to wrap it up . We wanted to go participate at the party , but it was 18 and up and I have my children with me , so unfortunately we're not able to go . So we're like , all right , man , let's go ahead and wrap it up . We didn't feel like taking the escalators or going all the way around , so we're like we'll just grab the elevators really quick . Well , me and my youngest daughter had this dumb habit . You know , man , me and my daughter started like light jumping Right . Light jumping , I mean not like with all of our might . But then there was one moment where we synced up with all of our might . We jumped hard as shit and the elevator immediately locked . It dropped , though it dropped like a feet , your daughter like dropped to the floor , she fell , she fell .

Oski 4:00

And , like your daughter , like dropped to the floor , she fell .

Merc 4:03

She fell .

Oski 4:04

It took her a second to get up .

xFer 4:05

I was like hey , man , for real . Yeah , I was like .

Merc 4:08

I tell you what if my knees would have locked , I would have hurt myself .

xFer 4:10

Yeah .

Merc 4:11

Because my knees gave out too .

Merc 4:12

I was like oh , oh shit .

Oski 4:15

And at first I thought it was like ah , just a little , you know , a little jolt .

Merc 4:19

Yeah , little joel , I'm sure the door will open here in a second and after 30 seconds nothing happened and we were still on the third floor and we're like we were stuck somewhere between the first and second .

Oski 4:29

Yeah , that's where it was , that's where it was .

Merc 4:31

Uh , and we had no bro , no idea what the hell was going on , and we started ringing the bell . Then we had to actually call somebody nobody was we were stuck in there for an hour .

Oski 4:44

The thing we got stuck in an elevator at comic palooza , bro , because who else could say that ? Uh , but we ended up being stuck in there for an hour . We gotta leave early , cause tomorrow we gotta be our 10am battle .

Merc 4:57

That was exactly what the plan was . We were leaving to go home , bro , and we got stuck fucking around and found out . I tell you what buddy uh , but yeah , anyway , it was a laugh at the very end because when we got out this guy was chilling by , he was working the event , was chilling by the door and was like I was like y'all reading that . Yeah , bro , that was us , what are you ? He ?

xFer 5:18

was there the whole time ?

Oski 5:19

he asked , bro no because I thought , I thought those were gonna happen and we're gonna have fire and everything but fire crew was in the second floor . So whenever we got off on the first floor , nobody was there ?

Merc 5:28

Nobody was there no fanfare no anything . And the false hope .

Oski 5:32

I looked up and I saw like the people , the maintenance people , on the balcony of the second floor . It's like , hey , we made it out .

Merc 5:38

The false hope was that we saw the door semi open for like a brief second semi-open for like a brief second . Within like the first 10 minutes , we're like oh , we're going to be out of here in no time .

Oski 5:45

No , that never happened . We heard somebody climb on top of the elevator .

Merc 5:48

We did hear somebody climb on top .

Oski 5:49

Somebody climbed through the chute or whatever . Yeah , and we're like what the hell .

Merc 5:54

So I mean it was ridiculous , man , it was a lot , it was way too much . I mean it was a whole hour in . There were calling them like hey , we're stuck instead of them .

Oski 6:02

Oh , they couldn't find it well , it says 6f and she's like we're 6f , what you mean ?

Merc 6:10

were you in area c , d , a or b ?

Oski 6:15

I'm in the elevator with the alarm , was it ?

Merc 6:19

was it blue carpet or town , whenever before you stepped , in there .

Oski 6:22

That one lost me . I was like what do you mean ? You brought a blue carpet on the floor .

xFer 6:26

I'm in Texas .

Oski 6:28

I lost it . It was a whole experience . We walked out . Thank you to the Georgetown Rail Commission staff for letting us out .

xFer 6:36

You guys are the real troopers out there , you guys enjoyed the elevator 2024 simulator .

Merc 6:39

Bro , it was crazy .

Oski 6:42

They need to make it an experience every year .

Merc 6:45

Dude the fact that we're the prototypes . I love it .

xFer 6:47

It was great you know , because I don't need money .

Oski 6:50

You don't need fame . Back to the actual con experiences . Speaking of , back to the future , oh man , we got to see Michael J Fox and Christopher . Lloyd man . Their panel was so good .

xFer 7:02

It was so fucking awesome , didn't you share the bathroom stuff with Michael J Foggers ?

Merc 7:07

Alright , alright , here's my story .

Oski 7:08

Dude , we'll see if I can run through that , but I gotta say the panel was great , man . They answered so many questions .

xFer 7:15

It was packed A bunch of questions .

Oski 7:19

That line .

Merc 7:20

That line was ridiculous .

Oski 7:23

It wrapped around the corner Of the general auditorium twice .

Merc 7:29

What made me laugh is that Aski is like I'm in the room , what room are you in ? I was like what room Are you in ?

Oski 7:33

a room . They had the line set up in a room before going into the auditorium .

Merc 7:38

That's how early he was . He was in a room . I was like what do you mean ?

Oski 7:48

And then I thought about it , because we've gone to events like this before , where you start in a room and then from there it's like , and then that line just kept going .

Merc 7:52

Yes , and the crazy part about it ? Because there was two separate lines and people didn't know that there were two separate lines . One was for general admission , one was for silver tickets and then one was for gold tickets and then they had the bap on the speed passes behind that too which was even crazier , bro , but dang it , it was packed for them and it was awesome . The questions that were asked were still very cool .

Oski 8:08

Yeah , Michael J Fox .

Merc 8:09

Michael J Fox still got it witty . He's funny , he's witty .

Oski 8:13

He really has that witty banter .

Merc 8:17

He's a real fan , but I loved it though , man . For me it was an awesome moment to get a chance to see both of them on stage Really really awe-inspiring stuff for sure . And after the panel , all right . So after the panel , here's where shit got cool . Not that the panel wasn't amazing , because it was , but it got even better for me .

Merc 8:34

So I was looking for my daughter and Rex to go find them , and they were on the third floor at the very end of the actual uh convention . When I went down there to go find them , I was like you know what ? I really gotta go bust a leak man , and I know from previous year that I took my daughter to go down this hallway . When I went down to that bathroom was a women's only . I'm like , damn , I'm not gonna walk all the way down to the very fucking back of this thing . So I go , I take a piss , I'm about , as I'm about , to step out , some guy , big guy , comes in , man , he checks out the entire restrooms , checks out all the stalls , like there's a quick scope , and then it's like holding the door and looking at me , looking outside , looking at me , looking outside .

Merc 9:07

I'm like what the fuck is going on right now man . So as I'm leaving , he's like sorry about this man , we just got to borrow the restroom real quick and I'm like , yeah , sure , whatever I'm actually talking to oscar on the phone like it's not my restaurant .

Oski 9:17

Yeah , I'm like whatever bro like cool .

Merc 9:19

So I'm leaving and as I'm walking out , there's they're wheeling a gentleman in who's at waist level , into the bathroom very , very quickly , and it dawns on me at this moment I'm like holy shit , bro , this is michael j fox and I don't need money hey don't need no credit back to the future , little jingle immediately and at first I was like that wasn't him right ?

Merc 9:41

and then I stopped and I looked just back just to see and I noticed that there were three other people standing outside like mugging the shit out of me . That I even , like , had the audacity to stop and I was like , anyway , I'm going to just keep going with my life . But holy shit man .

Oski 9:53

I said I thought about it . Why did you turn around ? Excuse me , Mr Fox .

Merc 10:05

Do you need any help in there ? Figured out that's the power of love . But it was so cool man . My one thing that I wanted to do was meet him .

Oski 10:08

I didn't get a chance to pay for it . You're actually still Michael J Fox , face to face , damn yes bro , it was awesome , that was my Stanley moment .

Merc 10:16

It's crazy .

xFer 10:17

It's kind of tharting for him because there's an episode in the show Scrubs that deals with the toilet .

Merc 10:23

Oh shit you just fucked me up on that bro .

xFer 10:28

The three episodes in there deals with him trying to get to the toilet . Yeah , in public .

Merc 10:32

He's like I gotta get home , yeah , yeah yeah , he's like I'm a germaphobe .

Merc 10:36

I gotta get home whenever I gotta go to the bathroom .

Oski 10:37

He takes me exactly 43 minutes .

xFer 10:49

So I gotta get out of here . You know what was something about the panel they only talked about back to the future and sometimes you , I mean there is , he's in so much more than that .

Oski 10:51

He is wicked city or what was in that show , spin city , yeah , yeah , uh , I mean he's in a few things . They mentioned it , but obviously everyone wants to know . Uh , back to the future . Give me more back to the future stories , you know yeah I knew christopher lloyd . He's also been in a lot and again , you know , sometimes he was like man .

xFer 11:03

They're running out of time and I want to hear more stories you know they would talk to you all day about it , I'm sure they were going on and on , like he got stories you know what Michael J Fox's story about ?

Merc 11:14

Back

Comicpalooza Highlights and Fan Interactions

Merc 11:15

to the Future2 .

xFer 11:15

That five year gap was actually a wow moment he talks how his body wasn't reacting the same way there was a five-year gap between the first and second one yeah , I didn't don't .

Oski 11:29

And the second and third are like eight years .

Merc 11:31

No , no , it was five , it was 1985 to uh to 1989 yeah and then the other one came out in 1990 , 1990 , yeah , yeah , um . So it was like a four or five year gap between there and , uh , michael j fox said he noticed that his body , like he didn't know , but his body was not reacting . The same , maneuvering the same . He's like I want to do things , but it's not , something's just not connecting . He didn't know what the ?

Merc 11:53

issue was . But he was like at that point , you know , and he's like , luckily we filmed both of them back to back , but he's like , yeah , I in the first one than I was in the other ones and I want to go back now and rewatch and see how much he actually does versus how much is the stunt double yeah . It says that you know .

Oski 12:08

Yeah .

Merc 12:08

But I mean just interesting stories man .

Oski 12:10

Yeah , there was stuff in there like I hadn't heard . Yeah , I didn't think you heard it all online , but yeah , just going , yeah he's still here , you know chris lloyd is is still funny too , man I mean it's that was great . You know another one another , really good one . Earlier that morning , sunday morning , when john see how did you see him , bro ? They had this special device where you could see what's not there . It was a cloaking device . It was a cloaking device . No , john Cena was freaking awesome man that bet .

Merc 12:51

That bet was dope as shit it was cool man because he came out .

Oski 12:53

He's like all right . He told the host . It's like all right . I'm going to answer a couple of questions , but then I'm going to go straight to the audience and answer fan questions .

Merc 13:00

He .

Oski 13:00

He kind of set that expectation .

Merc 13:02

Damn , that's cool .

Oski 13:02

He only answered host questions for like 15 minutes . Damn , that's it For an hour , yeah . And then he had like a whole line of fans that wanted to ask him questions and he just went straight to the fans and at one point they were going to cut him off . He's like , hey , we're coming up on the end of the hour . It's like I'm going to finish this line .

Merc 13:25

I mean it's like I'm gonna finish this line .

Oski 13:26

I mean you can't tell john cena to get off stage . Bro , his battle went over like 15 minutes just him like taking more questions towards the end he's like all right , rapid fire , rapid fire . But everybody kept going up there and telling him how much he meant .

Oski 13:37

You know how much watching him growing up meant for them yeah , yeah , I mean that's awesome I mean it's so funny because a lot of people ask , like some , you know , what do you do when you feel lost , following your dreams ? And it's like he went into full motivational speaker damn , I love that to me it sounds like you're lost , so stay curious , dang dang , dang , dang like a Jedi master dang , dang , dang , because he talks about how he thought wrestling was just a hobby and he kind of just turned his hobby into something he could make money out of .

Oski 14:09

I mean , he talks a little bit about how he started his career and how he in the WWE . He came up with characters and they failed . He couldn't connect with the audience Until he finally found that persona , that John Cena persona that we all know .

Merc 14:23

No fucking way . That was his final one that hit .

Oski 14:25

Really that we all know that was his final one that hit . Really I didn't know that , but if you know a little bit about his background , his first one was like the prototype , where he was like the prototype of the perfect human being and then he had like a whenever he actually got into WWE he was like this goody two shoe character , like a good guy , and then there was one where he was backup to another wrestler character .

Oski 14:43

You know like playing character like a good guy , and then there was one where he was backup to another wrestler but he tried a whole bunch of different characters to actually make it . Everybody forgets about the ones that fail , you know because they just fail , but he talks about failure . He talks about how he failed a lot before he actually succeeded . So he had a lot to say . Man , he was great from the wwe .

Merc 15:06

Yeah , I would say like duane and and john cena are the ones who made it bro , like yeah , I mean .

Oski 15:10

I mean you know a lot of famous names , but you know those are the big ones , yeah john cena , for sure , man .

Merc 15:14

He was great . Meaning like seeing him , that's so fucking cool man yeah but , uh , were there any other ? Great moments like that or are we just ? Are we ready to go and push on to the next one ? Guys , I don't know , what are we doing ?

Oski 15:24

Well , I didn't have any restroom moments with John Cena , yeah , unless I couldn't see him .

Merc 15:28

You know what that's exactly ? They didn't have the devices in the bathrooms . Bro , he's walking around butt-ass naked this is a con .

Merc 15:33

We don't even know .

xFer 15:39

I wanted to go was doing so much at the con I'm just gonna get around to it , man yeah , I mean , the office panel was great , they were all hilarious .

Merc 15:46

Okay , now , that was fucking funny yeah , like . They're like not want to be funny , but they're hilarious at the same time I think the urge to not want to be funny makes them that much fun .

xFer 15:54

More fun , yeah , and they talk about their careers , how they did it , their pranks , their friends , like overall the office panel , the , the two , two side characters were great . You know Three , three .

Merc 16:05

Because the other guy was good too . Well , what I enjoyed about it was that I'm not even an office fan like that . Bro , I was cracking up because I had never seen their dynamic . That's what I was going to say .

Oski 16:14

I haven't watched the Office at all . I'm not a fan at all . Yeah , me neither .

xFer 16:26

And I thought it is like the writers now focus on the side characters , like let's grow them up , like we grew up michael and like he took off . Now it's time for the characters and that's why you add , like more shit with creed and oscar , etc . Etc . You know , because everybody loves , loves the characters in the office .

Oski 16:45

Not this Oscar , but that was cool , man , and you know , homeboy actually asked him about a proposal .

Merc 16:49

The proposal , which I thought was hilarious yeah , the Oscar character . What's his real name ?

xFer 16:54

Is it really Oscar in real life . Yeah , it's really Oscar . Oh , it's Oscar in real life . They asked him like can we use your real name ?

Merc 16:58

He , no , whenever .

Oski 17:00

That's why a lot of a lot of characters in the office have their real names because they just , you know , they seem like office names .

Merc 17:05

Yeah , that was the funny part about it , but the funny story that somebody asked him was in the proposal . Was there any fun stories ? He was like . My first day was recording that , that stripper scene when I'm in the bar and he's like I'm shaking my shit all over , he ain't complaining . I can't complain bro so that was when I was like , damn , this is funny man .

xFer 17:24

But overall , man , I say Comic-Con delivered .

Oski 17:27

No , it delivered , I even got to see it wasn't big on anime this year because it was so diverse , like all these fandoms . It was . They had the sci-fi fandom .

Merc 17:38

Star Wars .

Oski 17:39

I saw a lot of people excited to see the charmed actresses . Oh yeah , that's right . I saw a lot of that on social media so they also got a big fandom that got to see them . I didn't watch Charmed so I wasn't excited to see them , but I saw a lot of that on social media and anime . They had the anime voice actors Shout out to Fish and Ha . That led the voice actors .

xFer 17:58

Hey Fish and .

Oski 17:58

Ha Shout out to Fish and Ha Megan Shipman and Natalie Ben Sistine . I got to talk to them for a little bit at their tables . They were really awesome . I got to talk to them about Gundam because they were both in Gundam .

Merc 18:10

Shout out Gundam different Gundam series .

Oski 18:12

One is in a Gundam movie and the other one is in the new Witch from Mercury shout out to the Gundam coming on Call of Duty soon .

Merc 18:17

Anyway , continue .

Oski 18:18

Yeah , that's sick wild yeah , anyway a lot of uh cross promotion , yeah , but uh , it was cool getting to uh meet some of them , uh done at the tables and uh also shout out to some of the vendors . I kept my shopping under budget this year . I did really well this year . But shout out to white cup entertainment , shout out white cup blaze manga , the blaze brothers . I got some prints from them , some shirts from white cup um any other stuff that you .

Merc 18:46

No man , I kept it pretty low key this year I got my pins . Shout out to the people that provided my pins . I appreciate y'all . Shout out to Cactus Music For always writing those vinyls . Cactus Music Vinyls for my daughter that I always hold it down . They hooked it up With the discounts .

Oski 18:57

Cactus Music Houston local music shop . That's right , ladies and gentlemen .

Merc 19:01

Go to their shop .

Oski 19:02

Look them up , their shop is dope Bro . I've been there . Okay it's massive . It's a lot bigger than you think . I was like , ah , it's going to be a little record Bro they're stacked . I think they've been around for forever .

Merc 19:15

Yeah , they got old and new stuff , so go check them out Cactus Music .

Oski 19:18

Yeah , but anyway , yeah .

xFer 19:20

So that's what I was talking about yeah , man , comic Con 2024 was great .

Merc 19:23

Comic Palooza . Comic Palooza , yes , comic Palooza 2024 .

xFer 19:26

Cp PodFam CP PodFam .

Oski 19:28

CP 365 . I love them . The big commission , the big Houston commission , yes , I had a great time Always do .

xFer 19:35

The food's great , the people are great , the people are dressing up . Love it , man . Look forward to 2025 , bro yes , man , the cosplays were dope .

Merc 19:45

The guests were dope . Thank you so much for everybody that came by and participated thanks for hosting us again thank you guys .

Oski 19:50

Thanks for hosting us again . Yes , we look forward shout out to all the other podcasts that are part of the podcast program and shout out to our CP pod family bro shout out .

Merc 19:59

That being said , guys we're gonna go ahead and introduce you guys to what Our actual episode that we did at the con .

Oski 20:06

So those are our highlights for us guys .

Merc 20:07

That's our live . Two cents

Comparing Anime and Western Cartoons

Merc 20:09

on it . Here's our panel .

Oski 20:10

ladies and gentlemen , yeah , here's our panel . We talked about anime versus Western cartoons but , you'll hear all about it coming up next .

Merc 20:18

You guys ready , suki , where's my music ?

Oski 20:27

We should be good to go . We got the volunteer outside pointing them our way , even though it's 10 am , first panel of the day . Maybe people are just barely getting here . That's right . Thank you to you .

xFer 20:41

Thank you to you .

Merc 20:42

And everybody up here in this corner , Everybody back come on out and just sit down and everybody watching online .

Oski 20:49

Thank you guys , so much . Three days from now .

Merc 20:53

To you three days from now .

Oski 20:55

To you in the future .

Merc 20:57

But what the my guys ? My name's Mark .

xFer 21:02

And I am Ex-Fed , this is Oskian and we are the WBN Podcast , we are the Witty Banter Media . That's right , ladies and gentlemen . That's right , guys . We draw weekly episodes on Fridays 30-minute segments for funsies , three topics For funsies . We mix it up . We mix it up . Three topics , four funsies , we mix it up Pretty much . And today we're gonna talk about western cartoons versus eastern anime .

Merc 21:31

Yes , versus Japanese anime . It's gonna be a good day , guys . It's gonna be a great day .

Oski 21:37

So we're gonna compare them a little bit , contrast them a little bit , give some hot takes . He was already giving hot takes about sidewalks .

Merc 21:44

I'm just saying , man , and you still get it in Neon Genesis , so that God-robot-angel thing destroyed it the next day boom , and if you guys have any participation , I'd love to , so we'll throw you the mic up there so you guys can roll .

Oski 21:56

It's only two cents , so how do you guys want to get started ? So , basically , we're going to do things anime does better and things uh .

xFer 22:04

Western cartoons absolutely , absolutely , hit it like that , I'm down all right .

Oski 22:09

So , right off the bat , something that anime does better is the sheer volume of episodes . Oh , bro , yeah , you think about classes like dragon ball scene and it was like what is it 300 , 400 something ?

Merc 22:22

like that . It was like 300 or two , something , I don't know . It was up there . It was a good . What is it ?

Oski 22:24

300 , 400 episodes , something like that it was like 300 or two , something I don't know .

Merc 22:26

It was up there , it was a good number of episodes and that's it . It included one series . Are you talking about Z GT Super Just ?

Oski 22:30

Dragon Ball Super it was 130 episodes .

Merc 22:34

Yeah , that was recent , yeah , and that's like the short version of the Dragon Ball Z universe . Because universe , you know , because the Ultraman Z's bro was like 40 episodes , 50 episodes in a season , like it was a lot . There was a lot of episodes back then .

xFer 22:47

I feel like and I feel that because when I watch shows here in the US I'm like , oh you know , for example , I'm not hating on that , I'm not talking shit . I'm like for Walking Dead , like damn how many seasons I'll let you know , but a Dragon Ball or One Piece you know , okay , I'll watch it , One Piece a thousand episodes .

Oski 23:03

I'll sit down , I'll sit down now , that's volume facts when you think about , I don't know , some western cartoons . What can we think about ?

xFer 23:13

so when I think about cartoons it's like , okay , look , I get it . I cry too in animes . But I feel like western does better with anthropomorphic animals they do it better . For example , I cried with Sympathite bro but you know like , but it was hard . The only time I saw it was like One Piece , but you know , I took it years later . But I think it's more to like the US Disney , like hands down when it comes to like we Need Pooh , bro .

Merc 23:39

I'm like , oh gonna have my popcorn .

xFer 23:41

So when he's cool , I'm like whatever , I'm gonna eat yours as well .

Merc 23:44

You wanna have a whole family , right ? Yeah , exactly .

Oski 23:46

It's a short amount of episodes . It tells a short story , but it's engaging .

xFer 23:50

Yeah , absolutely , when we're kids anyway . So I think what's the good is when it comes to Western , I feel like we do animals better bro . In every sense of the word .

Merc 23:59

There's always that one cute little thing I'll make me bring up the stars , but you know , I think it's like for me it's not an anime necessarily , but like the Flash , was the one series that actually had a lot like the DC Universe Green Arrow . They had 24 episodes in a season . That was cool for a live action series , man .

Oski 24:15

That's a lot of episodes , yeah , but you know about the animated ones like the Justice League , yeah , that one had two seasons so it ran for 50 episodes . Still , quite a bit . It was really good . It was a really good story , I wish they would have kept that one going .

Merc 24:29

They had the sequel , Justice League Unlimited . Unlimited was fire . But again they didn't go for long series . No , they don't .

Oski 24:38

Japanese animation . A lot of them go for really long , all the time , yeah , but in America , like BTS , Batman , the Animated Series that one ran for also like 50 episodes yeah , that's a good one that was a great anime trailer . It could have run for longer .

xFer 24:52

I know there's enough Batman content out there and BTS was such a unique take on Batman at the time . You know Batman Because I'm sure in the 90s you had the boom , bop , bop , bop , like Adam West , right , right . But this one brought in like , hey , I know this is for kids , but not as you watch as a kid , these had some sad stories . Yeah , these were like for like a 90s anime . They were talking about mental health . You guys remember the guy that was the Hakupo gangster , but he was like a puppet , but it's the puppet controlling it , which I'm hearing . You know there's a pokemon in Japan , right , right , right , or you can already recall it , but here it was like no bro , this is mental health , this is a guy suffering from this thing and he was so good at it . He organized crime . You know , like that , concepts like that . You know , like the V-Tex in the 90s it was .

Oski 25:40

You know . That's an example of a Western cartoon that like it was meant for kids but it had like good stories .

xFer 25:46

Yeah man Like the Mr Freeze episode .

Merc 25:49

So sad , but it was my love you know , but how many episodes or how many seasons is the animated series going for Batman ? I think it went for three seasons . Three seasons , but look , how can we have like eight seasons of a slice of life anime , bro ? We only got three of the you know the animated series . Those are bad . Come on , bro , Japanese anime . They just keep going .

Oski 26:08

But see , that's what I'm saying .

Merc 26:08

They don't care about nothing Like there's one called Kariya-sama .

Oski 26:11

Love is War . It's about these two students in high school that you know . Of course . They're in love with each other .

xFer 26:19

Yeah , that's what I'm saying . Stuff like that to me Bought in my life my 80s though , so in my mind , I'm like dude , that's a lot .

Merc 26:25

But I'm like is it because we ?

Merc 26:26

have short attention span ? Is it because we have a higher standard of what cartoons are ?

xFer 26:31

No , bro , it sells Like . Look in Japan , bro , for them they have Gundams right , and all they do is do the big of the Gundam with the whole detail . But here in the West , bro , we have like we may not go scale size rarely , but we do like Transform , like Transformers , and Transformers since the 80s has been pushing the same envelope A new movie , a new this , a remastered that .

Merc 26:51

Now that I think about it , it fades into from the animated series . It went into Batman Beyond , right , that was like the next thing that came out afterwards , right , because it went from young Bruce Wayne to old man Wayne , and that's when .

xFer 27:00

No , no , I'm talking about how other things that have recurring length , like , for example , gundam Wing , like Gundams . Gundams is like their own version . They've been recycled like 18 times we offer us . Like Transformers right , transformers is the western version of Gundam Our . Transformers , bro . Like you know , a T-Rex though . Yeah , bro , a T-Rex dog , A Gundam dog yeah , bro , it just works with a T-Rex . Eat it , that one just has wings . That's cool .

Merc 27:27

But a Transformer can't fly though . Oh no , I guess Scarves doesn't need to , bro .

Oski 27:30

It's like a jetpack , but I don't know Both long time franchises and every year they come out with a different version , Do you ?

Merc 27:38

think Transformers is just like the American bop of Gundam , like they saw it , and they're like oh bro , this is great , but like American works is honestly amazing . Make it a semi-truck , though . Nothing more American than a semi-truck , bro .

xFer 27:49

Nothing more American than a semi-truck . And the colors too , bro .

Oski 27:53

This anime compared to Western , like the Gundam series , a lot of those . Gundam series are like really dark and mature .

Merc 27:59

Yeah , really dope like I'm talking about the Transformers . That's why Aliens coming here and blowing shit up . Bro , I was gonna say that their planet got destroyed . They had a civil war . Right , that was their dark spot , that their planet , their planet like , destroyed itself because of the . The back actually called it Septicons , pretty straightforward .

xFer 28:19

That sounds cool as fuck , bro , but you know what I never saw ? They're in the colonies , you know . You know how classy that is .

Merc 28:25

Yeah , they're in some colonies . I can't tell you that I've ever seen a bunch of back stories like the battles and the wars that they had . They talk about it like we had a terrible war . But you never see it . And then in one movie you get a glimpse , maybe like five or ten minutes in the beginning of one movie , yeah , like the real ones , and they're like , oh , this is epic , you'll never see this again .

xFer 28:43

We recap with Gundam Wing how we watched as younger . We're like , oh my god , oh my god , it's a Gundam . And then we watch it again today it's like oh my god , how many people died Bro , how many people died In that colony .

Oski 28:56

Number what there's children . The whole space colony was destroyed . It was amazing . I think that's something Japanese anime does . They put a lot more adult themes in their animation .

xFer 29:09

It's like we both do it . I just noticed that now we both do it . It's like when you go back in retrospect you're like , oh wait , because now you have the glasses . Oh , I get low-key , just like you were talking about in the beat-ups with Batman . You should wanna see Batman push the guy in the face and that guy you know he's bent in the heels like , oh come on , batman , you couldn't pay for the treatment , bro you know you didn't have to go that hard .

Merc 29:29

You could've just had a job . Yeah , come on now talk . You need to have insurance .

Oski 29:39

Yeah , the ground between adult animation and stuff that's made for kids is clearly divided . You get stuff like Rick and Morty , which is specifically for adults , that's true , and then you get animation for kids .

Merc 29:51

There is no median , I guess there's no middle ground In Japanese anime .

Oski 29:57

Anime ranges from my Hero of the Day Jujutsu Kaisen . The same thing made for young shonen , but it's bloody . It's not necessarily made for kids yeah , not , but it's shonen , though it kind of gets that middle

Comparing Japanese Anime and Western Animation

Oski 30:13

ground . Compared to Western animation , there's no middle ground and there's exceptions , like the Last Airbender . The Last Airbender can be enjoyed by everybody . I would throw the Last Airbender .

xFer 30:21

That's a nice way to bring like a mixture . Like I was not an animated American cartoon . Right , that's the standard rules , right ?

Oski 30:28

oh yeah , are you that I'm talking to me and that is like wow , that's me being in Japan .

xFer 30:37

Like tequila has to come out of Mexico , yeah .

Merc 30:40

But it is great though . But it is great , the influence is like for sure . You can definitely tell from that the western influence is . But you can tell the story was really good , I liked that one . But I feel like it would have been darker , possibly if there was a Japanese variation of it .

Oski 30:54

Yeah , I mean you wish Korra and Korra was a little more mature . Yeah , and if you guys got two flicks , I didn't get a chance . I got one after that . I'm the only true fan out here . There's two . Oh , courtney Irving , she watched Mora .

Merc 31:07

Yeah , she watched Mora . How's it going ? She knows .

Oski 31:09

She knows , Did she nap ? Alright ? What's the other comparison that we're gonna make ? Oh , the lip-syncing . Japanese has such a big library of anime and so much experience with it that if you watch Japanese anime and the lip-syncing like lines up almost perfectly . What's the cartoons like ?

xFer 31:30

Like Spongebob .

Oski 31:31

Yeah , just the mouth motion . They don't try to mimic what somebody would actually like . Sound like , yeah , sound like the inflection . The inflection and the mouth movement Continue anyway . Inflection right on the inflection and the mouth movement . Continuing the way um the lip-syncing is done better in Japanese anime .

Merc 31:48

I feel like , yeah , and it just depends too , man , like there's so much more emotion , like there's so much more yelling , so much more feelings and crying something wrong , like American they do .

xFer 31:57

I do like that about anime . It's like the yelling , it's like your song yeah , with the digital . Yeah , I decided for the character yeah , well , here's a thing they were more silent again , more powerful again , like you know something , like suddenly that Superman is smiling . You know I'm serious you wouldn't smile .

Merc 32:14

It's a right , oh the . Goku shirt comes off , maybe we'll focus on expression , right ?

xFer 32:23

oh , you don't want to .

Merc 32:23

Goku's shirt comes off , it's about to get real .

xFer 32:24

Maybe Hulk . Hulk's the one that's special , right ? Oh yeah , Hulk would be the one that you know well , he stays the same . He doesn't yell , he stays Hulk mad . He gets more mad , he gets angry .

Merc 32:29

That's true . Yeah , that's it . He gets more mad . Everything gets mad . Yeah , but no , I love it , though . Like , if you think about 2 , and 3 were all different . Tanjiro's scream whenever he got pissed off about Goku dying , remember whenever the demon was running away . Totally different scream If you watch Solo Leveling one of the last big fights from the big boss at the end was insane . But again they're all yells , but they're all different meanings and different types for different scenarios and situations , but they all hit differently at the same time .

Oski 32:57

It's great . I love that play . That's part of the voice acting . Yeah , I feel like Japanese anime does better voice acting too , bro , the Japanese Bro . And now you know voice acting is getting a lot better here in the States too . Yes , western animation , like DC movies , whatever the DC animated movies oh yeah , yeah , yeah , the voice acting wasn't that great , but if you watch the DC animated movies now , the voice acting is Is much better , and they're getting big names in there too , yeah , which I'm excited about .

Merc 33:25

You know what ? Even Studio Ghibli's got big names too that step into their anime . They got what Christian Bale that stepped in before .

Oski 33:30

Oh , the dubbing . You know like voice actors become famous in Japan .

Merc 33:35

Yeah , I wish that was more thing here in America bro .

Oski 33:38

But , like the voice actors are getting famous for dubbing Japanese anime , yeah , but not for doing like you know , animation , just just the voice , not as famous . You know . There's a few names that are really famous , right .

Merc 33:50

Goku Wa and uh , was it Luffy ?

Oski 33:53

Are like their voice actors are iconic because of just their names alone , because of their voice , but you get the voice actors from , uh , from cartoons , from like um God , I can't think of a name the guy that does the aliens and stuff . Oh yeah , those guys are legends .

xFer 34:09

That's one thing I like about anime is the way they , over time , have now I'm spoiled in 2024 , but throughout time how their scenes of fighting have just drastically improved . Their scenes of fighting have just drastically improved . But that's one thing I give more to Japanese , to the anime , which is the fighting , because it's so fluid , fast and memorable , and even the camera angles that they use and I know that the US has capabilities of that , because I'm thinking about it like the intros of like Thundercats or like intro of Animaniacs or intro of Batman , like the same fluidity I'm talking about , but it's in the intro right and like , hey , you have this and today it's like you can make like for example what's his name ?

Oski 34:57

the guy with the uh , oh , ben 10 .

xFer 35:00

Yes , right , like whenever I watch it it's too like back and forth like very in the panel kind of fight . There's much like in animes , like they compete in , like let's do these crazy angles , these crazy shots . Like , hey , like this one was a girl , like Demon Slayer the 360 . Let's push down the fireworks , yeah , yeah .

Merc 35:37

So that's one thing definitely .

xFer 35:39

It's like if , like , if they were to integrate that to like . Let's push sometimes in all the nations , like , like , like . I remember the fights of johnny , but oh , they're moving so fast , I can't see it . You see , like explosions in here .

Merc 35:50

That's really yeah , remember they even made fun of you . Just like you can't do it because you're not sensing the energy properly yeah , yeah , man , yeah are they yeah moving so fast you can't even see that .

xFer 36:00

Today they're on shows .

Oski 36:01

They really are .

xFer 36:03

Today they're on shows like Invincible and Amazon . I'm sure right , but let's be honest back in the day , not until there's a heavy influence of anime today , not like there was before , it's like , oh , you see the game change now when it comes to Western fights .

Merc 36:19

You can tell it was a big step up , but I love that there are definitely influences that take from Japan and they're influencing them in an American show . There's some shows like Gumball as an example . Gumball is one of those shows that the Amazing World of Gumball , where they have definitely pulled Dragon Ball Z references and other anime references and thrown them in random fight scenes or sequences and that's a strictly American cartoon that they've pulled from Japanese references . It's so funny how they do it , you know , but it's great .

Oski 36:46

it's great what they did . But even the types of animation that Japanese anime does you know like the animation is so varied it's got a different style , and of course you've got different styles in Western cartoons too , but it's more limited to what you know .

Merc 37:01

You know , but they have everybody's favorites Isekai's right , which , if it's more limited , to like what you know , yeah yeah . Right , so it's just , but there is no American version of that line .

Comparing Japanese and Western Cartoons

Merc 37:22

I guess like of that .

xFer 37:23

That's one thing that they keep to themselves , right , I guess that's that's specific . Yeah , the AC cat version . Yeah , we got a fantasy cartoon which is tough .

Merc 37:32

Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah but he was at like what , Like Foster's Home for Imaginary Pets . I remember that show . Oh yeah , yeah , yeah , Like Adventure Time , Adventure Time , Adventure Time , bro , that could be one .

xFer 37:42

Yeah , what's the other one that camp one there was over the over the Garnet Wash or something that it's called . Yeah , yeah , yeah , something like that , but still .

Oski 37:50

Which ones are like random and kind of cool on Netflix ? The Universal ones , like the Jurassic World , camp Cretaceous , what it's ? The Jurassic World cartoon You're right for like like four seasons and the fifth season is coming back . What that's ?

Merc 38:03

pretty good , is it Jacksonville ?

Oski 38:06

Yeah , but imagine Jacksonville like anime , yeah basically the kids have a summer camp after the first movie and then the park gets destroyed and the kids get stranded there and they gotta survive for like months .

Merc 38:18

Damn , they forgot about these kids .

Oski 38:20

That's terrible , bro . They gotta learn the lessons , of course , the lessons for family .

Merc 38:25

And how not to play God . That's terrible , bro . What a life lesson , sorry , anyway .

Oski 38:33

Now play God and the .

Merc 38:35

Panthers .

Oski 38:36

And then you know we're also into Fast and Furious . They're spy racers .

Merc 38:40

Is it animated series for Fast and Furious ? Nah , oh that's cool .

Oski 38:45

It's Dominic's adoptive nephew or something . He gets together a group of kids that they're spy racers . Oh , there's cartoons on Netflix that expand on universes . Oh , I didn't know that Damn . I didn't know that they learned that from Japanese anime , this idea of connecting and expanding the universe .

Merc 39:04

Oh , I didn't think about that yeah , yeah , yeah Because you know some of the great . We have great American crossovers , but Japan has some amazing crossovers too , though , with other . You know we're opening them up for other shows . You know They'll make cameos on Saturday Morning Cartoon and stuff like that . They've done them with Dragon Ball Z in , and the other ones too , naruto , and that's another thing like .

xFer 39:20

The difference is like everything comes from the anime right , don't get me wrong . And like anime , some mangas I'm sorry mangas are gorgeous , like the ones from like Berserk . You know the painting is beautiful , but we always see the same trope . You know , is that pointy nose , that triangle nose ? You know how beautiful is that . Everything else is like pointy nose , triangle nose . But then you see beautiful like Marvel , dc , black Horse , like you see , that's art . That person is like bro . You could have put that in a 16th chapel . People like Alex Ross , like bro . Look how beautiful these are . Every artist , that's a big difference .

xFer 39:59

If anything it's like you know the gringos have a way better , like comic , you know , way that one stands out to me more Like . I'd rather look at the color schemes , because the color schemes don't be like oh like . If you see the old , the 80s ones or the 90s ones , it's like colors are black , dark , blue , red , compact red packed in yellow , but they're like boom , it's something , it's like all these gods from , like all these , I think it's it's space , but mostly it's dark because it's space , but somehow they make it like stand out bright .

Merc 40:30

Right .

xFer 40:32

Everything in mangas is like black and white . You know that's super true , yeah , I know , I know , I know I know , I know .

Oski 40:36

I know , I know , I know it's like , oh , they're in color now .

Merc 40:38

Yeah , they look at the colors of the manga and they're like black and white . Yeah the tradition to come black and white , which I guess is why it's more exciting to see them in an anime , because now you see them in color in full motion .

Oski 40:51

Yeah , it's a big deal . And Japanese anime they adapt all their mangas , you know yeah , To the TV action .

Merc 40:59

All those comics got adapted into an animated version or a live action version .

Oski 41:02

I'm used to getting laughed about with so many comic stories that they can just adapt .

xFer 41:07

Yes , I went for Spider-Man , I went for the whole Spider-Man story . I went for Batman .

Merc 41:11

B-town's made again , but they're like we're gonna be original , why you have like 80 years of working material . I just want what I read .

Oski 41:20

They made the DC movie based on the Injustice video game . Yeah , and they had to change it . Why did they change ? It , and then they crammed it all in one movie . I was like Injustice is such a good story , they could have just stuck to the video game .

Merc 41:32

The comic books were broken into multiple series , multiple arcs , the games were broken into multiple games .

Oski 41:36

Injustice year one , Injustice year two .

Merc 41:39

Injustice 1 and 2 , and they finished the entire thing in a movie . Come on . An hour and a half . Come on , bro . That's true . So that was , but anime does a great transaction . It literally sticks to the page From page to anime . It's just pooled . It's the same thing . That's what I love , and if anything .

xFer 41:55

It's like hey , we're making changes to the ending , so you're gonna think of a different ending . Then just add on like two scenes . You know like just expanded the length of a sword or something . Exactly . That's your extra ending . That exhale wasn't in the comic , like in the book . Yeah , we're sorry . We're like a ten day apology letter and we change everything . I'm sorry .

Merc 42:12

The fact that people have broken down like how much the anime is filler versus how much is the actual manga based . I mean , come on , bro , that's a big deal . There's no comparison like that for the American adaptations , bro .

xFer 42:22

But that's the one thing . It's like they have fillers bro for days . Even though it's like hey , it sticks to the manga . Yeah , bro , if they catch up Now they pulled the American side we gotta come up with an original story , but the Americans don't have filler episodes .

Merc 42:40

The next episode matters for the most part , right ? Well , I mean , yeah , they do have filler episodes . Like , the next episode matters for the most part , right ? Well , you would think I mean , yeah , you just have filler episodes . But do you think who has more though ? American Cell , bro ? I'll tell you .

Oski 42:50

Yeah , bro , another difference between like Japanese and Western cartoons . Is that Japanese anime have these overarching storylines .

xFer 42:57

Yeah , western cartoons for the most part , are like one-off episodes . That's true , batman fights a villain of the week . That's true , spongebob does something silly for the day . The Transformers fight the Decepticons . Well , here's the thing about it . It's like hey , I want to start watching . Hey , man , I want to watch this .

Merc 43:17

We're just picking up this episode bro , does it connect to the previous one ?

Oski 43:23

No , I mean , if you miss an episode , it matters yeah . That's right .

Merc 43:31

That one could you imagine just happen in the one piece naked . Really , this is their mission to get the one piece right . Yeah , bro , it's so much more than that Into random , you know you don't get naked .

xFer 43:42

Yeah , you can't randomly jump into random segments . Start from zero .

Comparison of Anime vs American Cartoons

Merc 43:44

But could you imagine having no flashback episodes , like if I was a Dave Warner bro and remember Enos Lobby when they jumped down that bridge ? Like eight episodes , bro . It's all flashbacks , that's true . I would have been so pissed if I didn't watch it , that's another thing you have no flashback , bro .

xFer 43:57

Batman doesn't go . Hey , remember that shit . I did like ten days ago . You know , we don't do that shit either . I didn't even think about that ? Yeah , I didn't no problem and if anything , it's something from that same episode like two seconds ago . The only flashback to me is just to when he lost his parents .

Oski 44:11

We always got a flashback to that .

xFer 44:13

Or Spider-Man and Uncle Ben . I was tired of seeing Uncle Ben die .

Merc 44:16

bro , that's another thing bro , we repeat .

xFer 44:21

So many times Watched .

Merc 44:22

Planet Destroy . Every time , every time , bro , I'm sick of it , I'm tired of these stupid things . But Animes is like alright . How did this person's parents die this time ?

xFer 44:32

Yeah .

Merc 44:34

Was it vampires , Demons ? Oh bro , what's gonna ? How do ?

xFer 44:38

you kill them . Is there a tournament ? Yes , Duh .

Merc 44:43

There's ranking captains . There's a rooftop scene . Yes , it has to If it's not a rooftop , it's a top of a mountain Duh .

Oski 44:52

What kind of revenge ?

Merc 44:52

plot are we going to use ?

Merc 44:53

Yeah , exactly , but see , look okay like here's a perfect example Pokemon Ultimate goal world's very best Pokemon trainer . You meet other side characters , other Pokemon . So the journeys that you have , character growth and development that takes place with these characters and it's a kid show Pokemon is , you know , pokemon bro they have pinky in the brain .

xFer 45:12

The same thing every day and they fail every day what are we gonna ?

Oski 45:18

try to do today brain , you find out each other's MC3 is a real mastermind .

xFer 45:21

Turns out he was a genius all the time , all this time , but no man .

Merc 45:26

For me , that's definitely one of the things it's like for anime . I look at it and it's a different scope . I hear when people are like what do you mean ? It's a cartoon ? No , it's not a cartoon . There's a big difference between anime versus a cartoon , would you guys agree ?

Oski 45:42

There's some exceptions to her . Like you know , there's some Western countries , are you know be Like ? I was just thinking about watching episodes of the X-men 97 , but even that cartoon back there . But the intro went hard .

Merc 46:05

Why did these cartoons ? They took Spiderman X-Men . Those two other ones were sick guitarists for no reason . I'm just being a dope bro . It's like , yeah , it's just like what's Van Halen up to .

Oski 46:18

Is he ever on X-Men ?

Merc 46:20

I don't know but it sounds like it's on X-Men .

Merc 46:22

I wouldn't probably use it you want to talk about it Just like Just Say Go as an example .

xFer 46:26

Oh , that makes sense .

Merc 46:28

I don't hear that , bro , and I can say I can bench 225 . I don't hear that Everybody hears that Nah , I hear Just Say Go , I'm ready to do 4 miles bro .

xFer 46:38

The day is safe , bro . The day is saved .

Merc 46:41

I didn't say you're wrong . I didn't say you're wrong , but I'm just saying like , who does it better ? In my opinion , japan has so many more people Cause you hear that it's a chance Goku may die .

xFer 46:49

You know the suspense , bro . But , you hear it's over , bro . Batman had prepped for it to show up . I'm gonna call it bro .

Merc 46:57

I'm gonna knock the villain .

xFer 47:01

I don't think he's gonna make it . No , bro , batman too , godzilla Batman , bro , what you mean 90% of the time . You know the .

Merc 47:09

American cartoons are gonna always win . They're gonna always win . Once a cartoonist the hero always wins , but in One Piece , bro . You know that there's another nine seasons left , but you're like dang is he gonna make it out bro .

Oski 47:22

I mean , he's a bleep .

xFer 47:23

I don't know how , sometimes their feelings weigh in . And my hero , right , my hero they just said a random American hero on the B-22 ? If the American president was like I'll take this serious . He's saying over the bird , he's talking about Robin , game over bro , game over bro .

Merc 47:38

Robin was solo . Robin was solo . That's what my hero did that .

xFer 47:44

He has to be One better . Cheers .

Oski 47:48

Cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers .

Merc 47:50

Cheers .

Oski 47:51

Cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers . What a coincidence .

Merc 47:57

Tmnt was really popular in Japan , that's the last role that comes into play , right , yeah , yeah , it's the last several .

Oski 48:08

Stories like that are paying homage to manga artists taking influence from the 80s , 90s , tmnt .

xFer 48:17

That's a little one . Bringing it back to the intros , the scene from my Hero Academia is .

Oski 48:21

His sign is literally based on TMT .

Merc 48:24

I didn't even touch that , I didn't even think about that .

Oski 48:28

I fed the whole thing .

Merc 48:30

I thought it was Michael Jackson that's correct , Alright .

xFer 48:33

I'll stop . What were you gonna say ? No , that one that's one of the TMT . There's like how , like the animation , the intros , like's high speed , the United States has the capabilities , but if you look back at the ones from the 90s , even today , the Ninja Turtles only the most recent one that Nickelodeon did was the one that was fast-paced . They didn't have powers , they went to the Netflix ended it with the movie . It's what anime . It's what Americans picked up anime style battle it was perfect .

Merc 49:06

I saw something like that . Right , they all had like superpowers of a certain set , like a certain trait that they was like heightened yeah .

xFer 49:11

It went all out . The tools , yeah , like spiritual tools yeah .

Merc 49:16

It looked like bullet shot like my hero , academia stuff right .

xFer 49:20

Like it looked crazy Because we have the capabilities , we have the technology . You know we're like we waste it on Pixar . I'm not hating on Pixar , right . Like I love the Incredibles , but like sometimes it's like man , I miss them Because I see them do it , you know . And like we have cartoons , but like bro , remember American animated cartoons . Yeah , man , me too , I can't say that . Remember , remember , yeah , bro , yeah .

Oski 49:44

America puts their big budget on animated films . Yeah . But I don't think the budget on . You know weekly cartoons and Cartoon Network or other methods .

Merc 49:52

That's disappointing man they're missing out on some venues . I can think of some great stories , bro . If they had a budget it would have been so much better . We just want to continue on the story . Spider-man , the amazing spider-man from back in the 90s , bro , ended up such a great cliffhanger , you know , but still , though , like that that was an amazing story . Again , batman , the animated story but I like they never should have stopped , like why didn't we stop it for three seasons ? Why didn't we stop it for four seasons ? Like it was just again . Like we phased over to spider-man unlimited , yeah , batman beyond . Like that was the next phase of what cartoons that had kind of went into . We had just forgot about everything else .

xFer 50:25

That's another thing , bro . If you're not talking about Japanese or American , then I say that we have way better live action than their live action animes . Maybe once in the blue pool you'll get a good live action anime One piece , and then . That was it True Before that . Yeah , that was it . Bro , we have like 10 bad guys , bro , they're all hard . Bro . Ben Affleck tough , you know . Bruce Nolan tough , we don't talk about .

Oski 50:50

well , we're talking about that man , george Clooney tough you know Nipples tougher , you know that was good Anyway .

xFer 50:55

But yeah , no man , it's true though .

Merc 51:06

Like our adaptations from our comic books , I guess , to live-action movies is amazing . Like Infinity War was epic dog , I mean .

xFer 51:13

Granted , it took 15 years to build , even the ones where like after the fact , you're like oh surprise , it's a comic , you know it's like 300 . That's just an example of thing , though . Like like 300 , that was an example of a thing , though , like when it first came out , all we really knew was a graphic novel , you know . But then , like , as the movie comes out , it's being advertised oh , it's from Frank Miller's . And then you're like oh , you started with Sin City . Like these are going , you know , yeah .

Merc 51:34

Watchmen , you know yeah .

Oski 51:40

So people are like , what do you mean ? Really stuck to the graphic novel that was to the very end . But halfway through the movie it was like the colors mean everything .

Merc 51:50

I thought it was interesting that one jail scene that fights him was supposed to be like two pages in the graphic novel , but it was like a whole ten minute sequence , but it was six though I was like okay , dope , and then it went back to the page and then , towards the end , they changed it to make it more live action .

Merc 52:04

Yeah , but see , like I think had they sent the original ending , I think it would have been great . It would have been hard to like put it on the screen . See , though it would have been great to see though . No , but the Watchers was one of those like great American movies in my opinion , that they really well , but I don't think that was very much .

Oski 52:21

Yeah , they already affected that that is so well into an anime . I've been like when they adapted live action . It's like I mean , it's great . Yeah , the anime is already back in that's true cuz it's hard to do anything . You end up comparing the live action to the anime . We're here , you're comparing watch thing to the breath level . I mean , there's no middle ground , but it is so much harder to do what's been done in the anime and make it look cool in live action .

Merc 52:46

Like those ridiculous fight scenes are so much harder to pull off in real life . That's why we got Dragon Ball Z Evolution . Yeah Well , that wasn't working .

Oski 52:54

We gotta put that on the US .

Merc 52:56

I'm just saying it's so hard to make something like that happen . Why , though , like the first live-action anime that I can say that it was done here I don't know if it was on the us Did Netflix do one piece here ? So for me I'm like that was the first one , but why did it take freaking 2023 ? I'll get it right . It wasn't that popular , wasn't it though ?

xFer 53:27

Well , anyway any of them like there's like Full Metal , Brotherhood and like Live Action , there's like even some like Romance . Yeah , those are old timey , but mostly it's mostly like since the series , bro , since Superman , bro , when he would spin the world backwards to bring back Willis Lane . Bro , come on , that live action was great . It looked real , bro , like somebody put a camera on now outside of Earth . How did they do ?

Oski 53:48

this . That's crazy . Side note , I was watching an episode of a little series called Powerless . It was a DC series . It's a Wayne Enterprises division . That's called Damage Control and they clean up after the message of heroes , right , and they got one episode where the concept is Lewis Lane died and everybody's like go wild , do whatever you want , but the Superman's gonna turn back time . And then the day goes by and then they go to Lewis Lane's funeral and Superman never turns back .

Merc 54:19

What Are you for real ? That's why they go wild . Wow , wow , wow . And I'm like we gotta pay for all these crimes .

xFer 54:26

Now I gotta get that police car back . And powerless .

Oski 54:31

That was a little 10 episode , season 1 jam . That should have had a season 2 .

Merc 54:34

I gotta go , apologize to my neighbor that was like watching NBC .

xFer 54:38

I'm gonna blame that on my dog .

Oski 54:41

That was hilarious . Superman never turned back time and he showed up at the Louis Lane funeral with a tight chick .

Merc 54:49

Yeah , talking about moving forward , bro , but you know what the great adaptations that are from the same universe are . I died and came back to reincarnate as Yamcha . Oh the spin-offs .

xFer 55:00

That's another thing

Batman vs Goku

xFer 55:01

, bro . Batman is a better father than Goku .

Merc 55:04

I'm sorry , yeah bro , he trains all of his kids . Is he a Batman , I mean .

xFer 55:08

Bro , he raised .

Oski 55:09

Orphanage , bro . What you mean , bro ? He's a real kid . What's his name ? Damien Wayne . Damien Wayne , yeah , he's an assassin . How is he a better guy , bro ?

Merc 55:22

Bro , that's cool , bro , what you mean . As soon as he found out he was an assassin , he's like no , put him on the street , you can't rob him . Oh yes , he knew , you can't just cut cut , turn and run . He's like look , man , look , I know it's hard to win on killing people straight out , so we're going to do this slowly . I'm going to reprimand you .

Oski 55:44

No , you can't use your other side .

Merc 55:45

You can take him , Bro Cell . Send him to me , Get him .

Oski 55:51

I've never done the same here , Joker , he's a sentry .

Merc 55:54

I've never done the same . No man , I don't know . You think so . I don't know . That's what I want to do in home game . I don't know . Bro Goku's like oof , that's tough . You got it .

xFer 56:06

I think he's got it . The thing is , he gave it to Piccolo to go train my son bro , but that was training bro . No , no , no , he didn't train my son , he told his son bro remember . If these are 14 year olds , just like Gohan , he was 14 . No .

Merc 56:16

Gohan was like 11 when he fucked up . Even worse , he was like 8 when he fucked up .

xFer 56:22

At least Batman waited until Thor was 13 , bro yeah bro , right there .

Merc 56:27

Batman is a better dad . I'll give you two minutes . He wasn't fighting the strongest being in the universe at eight , so I mean .

Oski 56:32

Okay , so we'll put it on Western Cartoon to get it better Does the father figure , does the father ?

xFer 56:35

figure , the father figure , it's all about broken homes , bro .

Merc 56:40

Every anime is about a broken home the mom's not there , dad's not there .

Merc 56:43

Somebody died . They're blaming somebody for somebody's death . It's you that ?

Merc 56:46

should have died . Well , that's Japanese culture , you know it's . Why , though ? See , look America . We're like we're gonna build this , we're gonna make this work . Okay , You're gonna come back home . Oh , good guy now .

xFer 57:04

So we need the Batman . Bro , I was like Pop Uncle Ben , but you always had that father thing you always had that .

Merc 57:12

I don't know , man , but who do you ? Think has more iconic quotable lines Like America or Japan as anime series . You think about great power , great responsibility , Pikachu . I choose you , bro , I choose you .

Oski 57:29

That was neck to neck bro .

Merc 57:30

That was a tough one we got stuck for about a millisecond that's iconic , bro .

xFer 57:36

Take that anywhere .

Merc 57:38

I'm not giving responsibility . Pikachu same level .

Merc 57:43

I hear the same , thing , same . Thing .

Oski 57:45

I summon I summon cowabunga .

Merc 57:48

see you later , space cowboy . I think it's the same thing . I summon . I summon Kawabanga . See you later , space Cowboy . It's all the same thing . Good stuff . I think that Japan does music better as far as in the fight scenes , in the climax of building the stuff .

Oski 58:05

I think it's all part of Japan's bigger budget . That's what I was thinking . They got better animation . They put better music into it .

Merc 58:12

Dude . The fact that they got a whole like orchestra for an anime is ridiculous , so like , all right , bro , this is the last scene . The character's going to die after this . We need everybody to do their best . So are you ready ? Yeah , dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun , you know Like , oh , let's go .

xFer 58:27

There's a thing like the intros in anime that make or break music careers , like if it's like the song of the summer , like it's like the equivalent of here , like of an artist , it makes a career , yeah .

Merc 58:38

I mean there's an award for Anime OP or Song of the Year .

xFer 58:45

Like it's a song like Ninja Turtles . It's whether or not it makes it , and then me in the summer . You know , you know what .

Merc 58:54

I'm like whoa . I'm like whoa , it's hard .

Merc 59:01

But uh , my musical for me personally , I'm like that determines whether or not I put it in my dream playlist . If it's a banger , it goes in the list , If not , I'm like ah this is cool . But if it goes in the list , bro , it gives me hype , it gives me energy , it makes me think of a moment . That's what gives me energy , Okay , I see what you're saying .

xFer 59:15

I can even work to jam Japanese anime music to like . Hype me up to a sports event .

Merc 59:24

You know what ? His fight with the Joker , his fight with Scarecrow , his fight with Frost . You're not going to jam that at the gym . I'm not going to do that at the gym . Sorry , this is training .

xFer 59:33

Okay , different thing . You know , that's a minute and a half pump , though .

Merc 59:38

That's as long as you enjoy it , you better get it on . But that anime OP , you're like I'm excited . You guys are three and a half minutes . This is like his first time . What do you mean ?

Oski 59:49

it's a part two . Yeah , bro , absolutely yeah yeah , yeah .

Merc 59:51

So and then when you mess around , you're like wait , this whole artist has more music and they're all bangers . Bro , that's true . Yeah , I'll tell you the best when they had that one group that came out with those two open oh yeah . Rock and Roll , oh yeah , sins . Yeah right , that's true .

Oski 1:00:06

No , no , you're right , you're right , I gave it to them . We've gone over some stuff where Japanese did it better , anime did it better , and then other stuff where Western cartoons did it better . What do you think at the end of the day ?

xFer 1:00:18

Mexico , because they don't censor shit , they don't care , they don't have any FCC out there . That's what hurts .

Oski 1:00:29

I think that's what hurts with Western cartoons the real hard censorship , Because there's no censorship in them there no . They put crazy stuff in , like kids' cartoons .

xFer 1:00:34

There you go .

Oski 1:00:35

There was a good movie , right ? Yeah ? Kids' cartoons and then adult animations . Adult animation , that's true . Like Bugs Burgers is not for kids , right Family Guy . Family Guy is definitely not for kids .

xFer 1:00:47

Yeah , I would say Simpson is not for kids , but like I see kids like watching it , like this , really cartoons .

Merc 1:00:52

That was our introduction to like cartoons . Yeah , for me personally , but I would say that Japan did a better man in my opinion . Again , like just just generally out , they did it well in my opinion Because , again , the music , the fight scenes , the cinematography , the backgrounds , I mean there's a lot the OPs , the EPs , the moments , there are a lot . Don't get me wrong , there's some great stuff in the animation that I love , that I will always like . Again , this is where I live , this is where my hometown is the hometown , but , like I've definitely said , like , hats off , gotta get my roses to Japan for doing it right 100% .

Oski 1:01:32

Yeah , I think there's more probes in Japanese anime . Yeah , we've kind of gone over where , like they do a lot of stuff better or they , you know , they put a lot into their animation . Yeah , but Western Cartoon is different in its own kind , absolutely . I grew up with Western cartoons , yeah , yeah .

xFer 1:01:49

I just want more , more , more cartoons , more Western animation .

Oski 1:01:53

I wish I wish there was more Western animation . Movies yeah , me too DC comes with its animated films every few years . But they need to do like you know series . More series More mature .

Merc 1:02:03

Yeah , bring it back . Yeah , I want some . Whatever they're doing in the movies , make that into a series . Yeah , because their animated movies are great Like a lot of them are really really good . If they got their live action and their animated people together and they worked that out , you know , to make that fit , bro , they'd be making some bangers . But until then , you know , there's .

Oski 1:02:20

It buries so much , but that's the best part about it . It's so . You know , I just keep watching , yeah .

xFer 1:02:30

I want to run out and always start episode one . You always start an episode . Always start an episode .

Oski 1:02:35

And you can always go a thousand episodes . That's true , or you go twelve . I might always just think of you know one thing . Yeah , I might always think of a Japanese anime instead of watching more Jurassic World cartoons . That's just me , that's just me Check out Captain Patience .

xFer 1:02:53

He's in four of them . What about you , andrew ? There's still so much potential still with the American cartoons . I think it's still great because I do see Japanese copycat from us , at least the cool things that we do have . So I think it's neck to neck . Honestly , today is very popular , but I think it's neck to neck . Honestly . Today's very popular . But I always feel there's always potential man , like just with the technology they have today , like it could be just as good . That's why I hope to see one day more animated movie cartoons , like there was back in the day , yeah , very much .

xFer 1:03:24

so yeah , because if Ghibli's doing it for like five bucks . You know then . You know I'm exaggerating , but you know one of us .

Merc 1:03:32

Yeah , man , absolutely . Well , guys , you heard it here first that it's a tie . That's right . Guys . Thank you so much . You guys be the tiebreaker . Let us know Two out of three people disagree . That's right and we have one tiebreaker that's don't text , but yeah , we are .

Oski 1:03:45

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xFer 1:04:03

That's right thank you so much . Hot damn , ladies and gentlemen , we did it again . We done , done , did it again . Y'all Guys , comic Palooza was such a blast 2024 was so much fun guys .

Oski 1:04:22

And that panel was a lot of fun . Thank you to everybody that came out to the panel . Yeah , man , it was early in the morning on Saturday morning but we had a little bit of an audience , so shout out to everybody that came out to the panel . Yeah , man , it was early in the morning on Saturday morning , but we had a little bit of an audience , so shout out to everybody that came out and thank y'all for sitting there and enjoying the content we delivered that morning .

xFer 1:04:38

Hearing y'all laugh and enjoying yourselves really helps us double down on why we do this . Because it's for y'all .

Merc 1:04:46

It's for each and every one of you .

Oski 1:04:47

Thank you , you guys not just our morning panel , also our Comic Palooza After Dark panel thank you to everybody that came out for . Comic Palooza After Dark . You can find that bonus content on our YouTube channel for After Dark . Only listen to it all night that's right , guys .

Merc 1:05:04

And then there's one more extra panel on there on our YouTube channel . Go check it out . Oh yeah . It's not the whole panel , but go check it out , go find it , go find it . Yeah , it's on there .

Oski 1:05:10

Bonus footage , bonus footage .

Merc 1:05:12

You don't have to join our Patreon for that one , Just go follow us on YouTube . But other than that , ladies and gentlemen , again we appreciate you so much .

xFer 1:05:23

Thank you know what I'm saying . Graduation , ladies and gentlemen , that's right . Graduation , that's what I'm talking about , that we all be singing graduation .

Merc 1:05:30

All right , I'm going to stop .

xFer 1:05:32

So yeah , man again , suki , how did Kong Palooza go for you ?

Merc 1:05:36

Oh no , sounds like we ran out of time

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