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Comicpalooza 2024 Wrap-Up: Unforgettable Moments and Epic Panels
Join the boys for an electrifying wrap-up episode that takes you back to all their best moments from Comicpalooza. From getting stuck in an elevator to attending panels featuring iconic figures like Michael J Fox and John Cena!! This episode has it all, from tons of laughs to fun insights. Plus a live recording from the con!! Don't miss out on this awesome recap from the boys experience at Comicpalooza 2024!!
#Comicpalooza2024 #CP2024 #CPPodFamily
Join the boys for an electrifying wrap-up episode that takes you back to all their best moments from Comicpalooza. From getting stuck in an elevator to attending panels featuring iconic figures like Michael J Fox and John Cena!! This episode has it all, from tons of laughs to fun insights. Plus a live recording from the con!! Don't miss out on this awesome recap from the boys experience at Comicpalooza 2024!!
#Comicpalooza2024 #CP2024 #CPPodFamily
good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning in to the wbm podcast. This is one of your hosts this your boy, merc .
xFer:Yo this is boy xFer .
Merc:and everybody boy here's boy oski, and the man guys, do we have one hell of a wrap-up episode for you, that's right guys.
xFer:We're taking you back to Comicpalooza 2024.
Oski:Back in time, if you will, or back to the future, let's go.
Merc:This is our.
Oski:episode. That's right, We'll tell you all about our Comicpalooza and you also get to listen to our live episode from the con.
Merc:Yes, ladies, ladies and gentlemen, that's right, we got our live episode from the cons. We're looking forward to you guys. Ready, I'm ready, let's go, let's go and we're back.
Oski:Back for a whole nother week. So we did take a week off. If you're one of our weekly listeners, we did take a week off.
xFer:Thanks, Frankfurt.
Oski:Because we did a lot of work. But I wanted to make sure to release our Comic Palooza after show post show episode, Tell you a little bit of how funny it was. And you know we want you guys to listen to our panel as well, One of our panels, because we actually did multiple ones.
Merc:Yes and you guys did a lot of work.
Oski:It was a lot of work. You can watch all those panels on our YouTube channel, but in this episode you'll get to listen to one of our favorite ones.
Merc:Yes, you get the meat and potatoes in this one. Ladies and gentlemen, but before we get into that, yes, we're going to go and tell you guys some of our personal favorites and fan highlights from the con.
xFer:It was an eventful con man, I'm not going to lie. It was a rollercoaster of emotions. It went up and down like an elevator Wink, wink, wink, oh bro wink.
Oski:Oh bro, I guess we can get started with that so Friday night, friday night, it's Friday night and I feel alright where the party no, it's not.
Merc:Anyway, the party's here at George R Brown Center you know what? And it was on May 24th to the 26th so we we had a great time when we were out there on Friday night, the first day. First day did we watch we walked around the con, we got a chance to go check everything out.
Oski:Oh, yeah, we kind of scoped it out yes because, uh, three-day cons, we like to scope it out friday.
Merc:We didn't have any work to get done on that specific day and, uh, we want to make sure to find all the rooms.
Oski:Yeah, we wanted to.
Merc:We like mapped out everything, location of everything yes, and so we could kind of just get our bearings for the uh, for the con where are all the restrooms?
Oski:bro and that actually is another story that plugs in later on. Thank you so much for that, sir um, but going back to. Oh, we ended up going to the third floor to watch a panel. Yes, uh, I watch a podcasting panel that had ming chen and uh skywalking through neverland. Yes, a, a podcasting panel that had Ming Chen and Skywalking Through Neverland. Yes, great podcasting panel. Shout out to both their podcasts. Also, john Simmons was in the panel, the founder of Comicpalooza.
Oski:Shout out, john they gave a lot of good information, so it was a great panel on Friday night.
Merc:So after we got done watching this panel, we were getting ready to wrap it up. We wanted to go participate at the party, but it was 18 and up and I have my children with me, so unfortunately we're not able to go. So we're like, all right, man, let's go ahead and wrap it up. We didn't feel like taking the escalators or going all the way around, so we're like we'll just grab the elevators really quick. Well, me and my youngest daughter had this dumb habit. You know, man, me and my daughter started like light jumping Right. Light jumping, I mean not like with all of our might. But then there was one moment where we synced up with all of our might. We jumped hard as shit and the elevator immediately locked. It dropped, though it dropped like a feet, your daughter like dropped to the floor, she fell, she fell.
Oski:And, like your daughter, like dropped to the floor, she fell.
Merc:She fell.
Oski:It took her a second to get up.
xFer:I was like hey, man, for real. Yeah, I was like.
Merc:I tell you what if my knees would have locked, I would have hurt myself.
xFer:Yeah.
Merc:Because my knees gave out too.
Merc:I was like oh, oh shit.
Oski:And at first I thought it was like ah, just a little, you know, a little jolt.
Merc:Yeah, little joel, I'm sure the door will open here in a second and after 30 seconds nothing happened and we were still on the third floor and we're like we were stuck somewhere between the first and second.
Oski:Yeah, that's where it was, that's where it was.
Merc:Uh, and we had no bro, no idea what the hell was going on, and we started ringing the bell. Then we had to actually call somebody nobody was we were stuck in there for an hour.
Oski:The thing we got stuck in an elevator at comic palooza, bro, because who else could say that? Uh, but we ended up being stuck in there for an hour. We gotta leave early, cause tomorrow we gotta be our 10am battle.
Merc:That was exactly what the plan was. We were leaving to go home, bro, and we got stuck fucking around and found out. I tell you what buddy uh, but yeah, anyway, it was a laugh at the very end because when we got out this guy was chilling by, he was working the event, was chilling by the door and was like I was like y'all reading that. Yeah, bro, that was us, what are you? He?
xFer:was there the whole time?
Oski:he asked, bro no because I thought, I thought those were gonna happen and we're gonna have fire and everything but fire crew was in the second floor. So whenever we got off on the first floor, nobody was there?
Merc:Nobody was there no fanfare no anything. And the false hope.
Oski:I looked up and I saw like the people, the maintenance people, on the balcony of the second floor. It's like, hey, we made it out.
Merc:The false hope was that we saw the door semi open for like a brief second semi-open for like a brief second. Within like the first 10 minutes, we're like oh, we're going to be out of here in no time.
Oski:No, that never happened. We heard somebody climb on top of the elevator.
Merc:We did hear somebody climb on top.
Oski:Somebody climbed through the chute or whatever. Yeah, and we're like what the hell.
Merc:So I mean it was ridiculous, man, it was a lot, it was way too much. I mean it was a whole hour in. There were calling them like hey, we're stuck instead of them.
Oski:Oh, they couldn't find it well, it says 6f and she's like we're 6f, what you mean?
Merc:were you in area c, d, a or b?
Oski:I'm in the elevator with the alarm, was it?
Merc:was it blue carpet or town, whenever before you stepped, in there.
Oski:That one lost me. I was like what do you mean? You brought a blue carpet on the floor.
xFer:I'm in Texas.
Oski:I lost it. It was a whole experience. We walked out. Thank you to the Georgetown Rail Commission staff for letting us out.
xFer:You guys are the real troopers out there, you guys enjoyed the elevator 2024 simulator.
Merc:Bro, it was crazy.
Oski:They need to make it an experience every year.
Merc:Dude the fact that we're the prototypes. I love it.
xFer:It was great you know, because I don't need money.
Oski:You don't need fame. Back to the actual con experiences. Speaking of, back to the future, oh man, we got to see Michael J Fox and Christopher. Lloyd man. Their panel was so good.
xFer:It was so fucking awesome, didn't you share the bathroom stuff with Michael J Foggers?
Merc:Alright, alright, here's my story.
Oski:Dude, we'll see if I can run through that, but I gotta say the panel was great, man. They answered so many questions.
xFer:It was packed A bunch of questions.
Oski:That line.
Merc:That line was ridiculous.
Oski:It wrapped around the corner Of the general auditorium twice.
Merc:What made me laugh is that Aski is like I'm in the room, what room are you in? I was like what room Are you in?
Oski:a room. They had the line set up in a room before going into the auditorium.
Merc:That's how early he was. He was in a room. I was like what do you mean?
Oski:And then I thought about it, because we've gone to events like this before, where you start in a room and then from there it's like, and then that line just kept going.
Merc:Yes, and the crazy part about it? Because there was two separate lines and people didn't know that there were two separate lines. One was for general admission, one was for silver tickets and then one was for gold tickets and then they had the bap on the speed passes behind that too which was even crazier, bro, but dang it, it was packed for them and it was awesome. The questions that were asked were still very cool.
Oski:Yeah, Michael J Fox.
Merc:Michael J Fox still got it witty. He's funny, he's witty.
Oski:He really has that witty banter.
Merc:He's a real fan, but I loved it though, man. For me it was an awesome moment to get a chance to see both of them on stage Really really awe-inspiring stuff for sure. And after the panel, all right. So after the panel, here's where shit got cool. Not that the panel wasn't amazing, because it was, but it got even better for me.
Merc:So I was looking for my daughter and Rex to go find them, and they were on the third floor at the very end of the actual uh convention. When I went down there to go find them, I was like you know what? I really gotta go bust a leak man, and I know from previous year that I took my daughter to go down this hallway. When I went down to that bathroom was a women's only. I'm like, damn, I'm not gonna walk all the way down to the very fucking back of this thing. So I go, I take a piss, I'm about, as I'm about, to step out, some guy, big guy, comes in, man, he checks out the entire restrooms, checks out all the stalls, like there's a quick scope, and then it's like holding the door and looking at me, looking outside, looking at me, looking outside.
Merc:I'm like what the fuck is going on right now man. So as I'm leaving, he's like sorry about this man, we just got to borrow the restroom real quick and I'm like, yeah, sure, whatever I'm actually talking to oscar on the phone like it's not my restaurant.
Oski:Yeah, I'm like whatever bro like cool.
Merc:So I'm leaving and as I'm walking out, there's they're wheeling a gentleman in who's at waist level, into the bathroom very, very quickly, and it dawns on me at this moment I'm like holy shit, bro, this is michael j fox and I don't need money hey don't need no credit back to the future, little jingle immediately and at first I was like that wasn't him right?
Merc:and then I stopped and I looked just back just to see and I noticed that there were three other people standing outside like mugging the shit out of me. That I even, like, had the audacity to stop and I was like, anyway, I'm going to just keep going with my life. But holy shit man.
Oski:I said I thought about it. Why did you turn around? Excuse me, Mr Fox.
Merc:Do you need any help in there? Figured out that's the power of love. But it was so cool man. My one thing that I wanted to do was meet him.
Oski:I didn't get a chance to pay for it. You're actually still Michael J Fox, face to face, damn yes bro, it was awesome, that was my Stanley moment.
Merc:It's crazy.
xFer:It's kind of tharting for him because there's an episode in the show Scrubs that deals with the toilet.
Merc:Oh shit you just fucked me up on that bro.
xFer:The three episodes in there deals with him trying to get to the toilet. Yeah, in public.
Merc:He's like I gotta get home, yeah, yeah yeah, he's like I'm a germaphobe.
Merc:I gotta get home whenever I gotta go to the bathroom.
Oski:He takes me exactly 43 minutes.
xFer:So I gotta get out of here. You know what was something about the panel they only talked about back to the future and sometimes you, I mean there is, he's in so much more than that.
Oski:He is wicked city or what was in that show, spin city, yeah, yeah, uh, I mean he's in a few things. They mentioned it, but obviously everyone wants to know. Uh, back to the future. Give me more back to the future stories, you know yeah I knew christopher lloyd. He's also been in a lot and again, you know, sometimes he was like man.
xFer:They're running out of time and I want to hear more stories you know they would talk to you all day about it, I'm sure they were going on and on, like he got stories you know what Michael J Fox's story about?
Merc:Back to the Future2.
xFer:That five year gap was actually a wow moment he talks how his body wasn't reacting the same way there was a five-year gap between the first and second one yeah, I didn't don't.
Oski:And the second and third are like eight years.
Merc:No, no, it was five, it was 1985 to uh to 1989 yeah and then the other one came out in 1990, 1990, yeah, yeah, um. So it was like a four or five year gap between there and, uh, michael j fox said he noticed that his body, like he didn't know, but his body was not reacting. The same, maneuvering the same. He's like I want to do things, but it's not, something's just not connecting. He didn't know what the?
Merc:issue was. But he was like at that point, you know, and he's like, luckily we filmed both of them back to back, but he's like, yeah, I in the first one than I was in the other ones and I want to go back now and rewatch and see how much he actually does versus how much is the stunt double yeah. It says that you know.
Oski:Yeah.
Merc:But I mean just interesting stories man.
Oski:Yeah, there was stuff in there like I hadn't heard. Yeah, I didn't think you heard it all online, but yeah, just going, yeah he's still here, you know chris lloyd is is still funny too, man I mean it's that was great. You know another one another, really good one. Earlier that morning, sunday morning, when john see how did you see him, bro? They had this special device where you could see what's not there. It was a cloaking device. It was a cloaking device. No, john Cena was freaking awesome man that bet.
Merc:That bet was dope as shit it was cool man because he came out.
Oski:He's like all right. He told the host. It's like all right. I'm going to answer a couple of questions, but then I'm going to go straight to the audience and answer fan questions.
Merc:He.
Oski:He kind of set that expectation.
Merc:Damn, that's cool.
Oski:He only answered host questions for like 15 minutes. Damn, that's it For an hour, yeah. And then he had like a whole line of fans that wanted to ask him questions and he just went straight to the fans and at one point they were going to cut him off. He's like, hey, we're coming up on the end of the hour. It's like I'm going to finish this line.
Merc:I mean it's like I'm gonna finish this line.
Oski:I mean you can't tell john cena to get off stage. Bro, his battle went over like 15 minutes just him like taking more questions towards the end he's like all right, rapid fire, rapid fire. But everybody kept going up there and telling him how much he meant.
Oski:You know how much watching him growing up meant for them yeah, yeah, I mean that's awesome I mean it's so funny because a lot of people ask, like some, you know, what do you do when you feel lost, following your dreams? And it's like he went into full motivational speaker damn, I love that to me it sounds like you're lost, so stay curious, dang dang, dang, dang like a Jedi master dang, dang, dang, because he talks about how he thought wrestling was just a hobby and he kind of just turned his hobby into something he could make money out of.
Oski:I mean, he talks a little bit about how he started his career and how he in the WWE. He came up with characters and they failed. He couldn't connect with the audience Until he finally found that persona, that John Cena persona that we all know.
Merc:No fucking way. That was his final one that hit.
Oski:Really that we all know that was his final one that hit. Really I didn't know that, but if you know a little bit about his background, his first one was like the prototype, where he was like the prototype of the perfect human being and then he had like a whenever he actually got into WWE he was like this goody two shoe character, like a good guy, and then there was one where he was backup to another wrestler character.
Oski:You know like playing character like a good guy, and then there was one where he was backup to another wrestler but he tried a whole bunch of different characters to actually make it. Everybody forgets about the ones that fail, you know because they just fail, but he talks about failure. He talks about how he failed a lot before he actually succeeded. So he had a lot to say. Man, he was great from the wwe.
Merc:Yeah, I would say like duane and and john cena are the ones who made it bro, like yeah, I mean.
Oski:I mean you know a lot of famous names, but you know those are the big ones, yeah john cena, for sure, man.
Merc:He was great. Meaning like seeing him, that's so fucking cool man yeah but, uh, were there any other? Great moments like that or are we just? Are we ready to go and push on to the next one? Guys, I don't know, what are we doing?
Oski:Well, I didn't have any restroom moments with John Cena, yeah, unless I couldn't see him.
Merc:You know what that's exactly? They didn't have the devices in the bathrooms. Bro, he's walking around butt-ass naked this is a con.
Merc:We don't even know.
xFer:I wanted to go was doing so much at the con I'm just gonna get around to it, man yeah, I mean, the office panel was great, they were all hilarious.
Merc:Okay, now, that was fucking funny yeah, like. They're like not want to be funny, but they're hilarious at the same time I think the urge to not want to be funny makes them that much fun.
xFer:More fun, yeah, and they talk about their careers, how they did it, their pranks, their friends, like overall the office panel, the, the two, two side characters were great. You know Three, three.
Merc:Because the other guy was good too. Well, what I enjoyed about it was that I'm not even an office fan like that. Bro, I was cracking up because I had never seen their dynamic. That's what I was going to say.
Oski:I haven't watched the Office at all. I'm not a fan at all. Yeah, me neither.
xFer:And I thought it is like the writers now focus on the side characters, like let's grow them up, like we grew up michael and like he took off. Now it's time for the characters and that's why you add, like more shit with creed and oscar, etc. Etc. You know, because everybody loves, loves the characters in the office.
Oski:Not this Oscar, but that was cool, man, and you know, homeboy actually asked him about a proposal.
Merc:The proposal, which I thought was hilarious yeah, the Oscar character. What's his real name?
xFer:Is it really Oscar in real life. Yeah, it's really Oscar. Oh, it's Oscar in real life. They asked him like can we use your real name?
Merc:He, no, whenever.
Oski:That's why a lot of a lot of characters in the office have their real names because they just, you know, they seem like office names.
Merc:Yeah, that was the funny part about it, but the funny story that somebody asked him was in the proposal. Was there any fun stories? He was like. My first day was recording that, that stripper scene when I'm in the bar and he's like I'm shaking my shit all over, he ain't complaining. I can't complain bro so that was when I was like, damn, this is funny man.
xFer:But overall, man, I say Comic-Con delivered.
Oski:No, it delivered, I even got to see it wasn't big on anime this year because it was so diverse, like all these fandoms. It was. They had the sci-fi fandom.
Merc:Star Wars.
Oski:I saw a lot of people excited to see the charmed actresses. Oh yeah, that's right. I saw a lot of that on social media so they also got a big fandom that got to see them. I didn't watch Charmed so I wasn't excited to see them, but I saw a lot of that on social media and anime. They had the anime voice actors Shout out to Fish and Ha. That led the voice actors.
xFer:Hey Fish and.
Oski:Ha Shout out to Fish and Ha Megan Shipman and Natalie Ben Sistine. I got to talk to them for a little bit at their tables. They were really awesome. I got to talk to them about Gundam because they were both in Gundam.
Merc:Shout out Gundam different Gundam series.
Oski:One is in a Gundam movie and the other one is in the new Witch from Mercury shout out to the Gundam coming on Call of Duty soon.
Merc:Anyway, continue.
Oski:Yeah, that's sick wild yeah, anyway a lot of uh cross promotion, yeah, but uh, it was cool getting to uh meet some of them, uh done at the tables and uh also shout out to some of the vendors. I kept my shopping under budget this year. I did really well this year. But shout out to white cup entertainment, shout out white cup blaze manga, the blaze brothers. I got some prints from them, some shirts from white cup um any other stuff that you.
Merc:No man, I kept it pretty low key this year I got my pins. Shout out to the people that provided my pins. I appreciate y'all. Shout out to Cactus Music For always writing those vinyls. Cactus Music Vinyls for my daughter that I always hold it down. They hooked it up With the discounts.
Oski:Cactus Music Houston local music shop. That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
Merc:Go to their shop.
Oski:Look them up, their shop is dope Bro. I've been there. Okay it's massive. It's a lot bigger than you think. I was like, ah, it's going to be a little record Bro they're stacked. I think they've been around for forever.
Merc:Yeah, they got old and new stuff, so go check them out Cactus Music.
Oski:Yeah, but anyway, yeah.
xFer:So that's what I was talking about yeah, man, comic Con 2024 was great.
Merc:Comic Palooza. Comic Palooza, yes, comic Palooza 2024.
xFer:Cp PodFam CP PodFam.
Oski:CP 365. I love them. The big commission, the big Houston commission, yes, I had a great time Always do.
xFer:The food's great, the people are great, the people are dressing up. Love it, man. Look forward to 2025, bro yes, man, the cosplays were dope.
Merc:The guests were dope. Thank you so much for everybody that came by and participated thanks for hosting us again thank you guys.
Oski:Thanks for hosting us again. Yes, we look forward shout out to all the other podcasts that are part of the podcast program and shout out to our CP pod family bro shout out.
Merc:That being said, guys we're gonna go ahead and introduce you guys to what Our actual episode that we did at the con.
Oski:So those are our highlights for us guys.
Merc:That's our live. Two cents on it. Here's our panel.
Oski:ladies and gentlemen, yeah, here's our panel. We talked about anime versus Western cartoons but, you'll hear all about it coming up next.
Merc:You guys ready, suki, where's my music?
Oski:We should be good to go. We got the volunteer outside pointing them our way, even though it's 10 am, first panel of the day. Maybe people are just barely getting here. That's right. Thank you to you.
xFer:Thank you to you.
Merc:And everybody up here in this corner, Everybody back come on out and just sit down and everybody watching online.
Oski:Thank you guys, so much. Three days from now.
Merc:To you three days from now.
Oski:To you in the future.
Merc:But what the my guys? My name's Mark.
xFer:And I am Ex-Fed, this is Oskian and we are the WBN Podcast, we are the Witty Banter Media. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. That's right, guys. We draw weekly episodes on Fridays 30-minute segments for funsies, three topics For funsies. We mix it up. We mix it up. Three topics, four funsies, we mix it up Pretty much. And today we're gonna talk about western cartoons versus eastern anime.
Merc:Yes, versus Japanese anime. It's gonna be a good day, guys. It's gonna be a great day.
Oski:So we're gonna compare them a little bit, contrast them a little bit, give some hot takes. He was already giving hot takes about sidewalks.
Merc:I'm just saying, man, and you still get it in Neon Genesis, so that God-robot-angel thing destroyed it the next day boom, and if you guys have any participation, I'd love to, so we'll throw you the mic up there so you guys can roll.
Oski:It's only two cents, so how do you guys want to get started? So, basically, we're going to do things anime does better and things uh.
xFer:Western cartoons absolutely, absolutely, hit it like that, I'm down all right.
Oski:So, right off the bat, something that anime does better is the sheer volume of episodes. Oh, bro, yeah, you think about classes like dragon ball scene and it was like what is it 300, 400 something?
Merc:like that. It was like 300 or two, something, I don't know. It was up there. It was a good. What is it?
Oski:300, 400 episodes, something like that it was like 300 or two, something I don't know.
Merc:It was up there, it was a good number of episodes and that's it. It included one series. Are you talking about Z GT Super Just?
Oski:Dragon Ball Super it was 130 episodes.
Merc:Yeah, that was recent, yeah, and that's like the short version of the Dragon Ball Z universe. Because universe, you know, because the Ultraman Z's bro was like 40 episodes, 50 episodes in a season, like it was a lot. There was a lot of episodes back then.
xFer:I feel like and I feel that because when I watch shows here in the US I'm like, oh you know, for example, I'm not hating on that, I'm not talking shit. I'm like for Walking Dead, like damn how many seasons I'll let you know, but a Dragon Ball or One Piece you know, okay, I'll watch it, One Piece a thousand episodes.
Oski:I'll sit down, I'll sit down now, that's volume facts when you think about, I don't know, some western cartoons. What can we think about?
xFer:so when I think about cartoons it's like, okay, look, I get it. I cry too in animes. But I feel like western does better with anthropomorphic animals they do it better. For example, I cried with Sympathite bro but you know like, but it was hard. The only time I saw it was like One Piece, but you know, I took it years later. But I think it's more to like the US Disney, like hands down when it comes to like we Need Pooh, bro.
Merc:I'm like, oh gonna have my popcorn.
xFer:So when he's cool, I'm like whatever, I'm gonna eat yours as well.
Merc:You wanna have a whole family, right? Yeah, exactly.
Oski:It's a short amount of episodes. It tells a short story, but it's engaging.
xFer:Yeah, absolutely, when we're kids anyway. So I think what's the good is when it comes to Western, I feel like we do animals better bro. In every sense of the word.
Merc:There's always that one cute little thing I'll make me bring up the stars, but you know, I think it's like for me it's not an anime necessarily, but like the Flash, was the one series that actually had a lot like the DC Universe Green Arrow. They had 24 episodes in a season. That was cool for a live action series, man.
Oski:That's a lot of episodes, yeah, but you know about the animated ones like the Justice League, yeah, that one had two seasons so it ran for 50 episodes. Still, quite a bit. It was really good. It was a really good story, I wish they would have kept that one going.
Merc:They had the sequel, Justice League Unlimited. Unlimited was fire. But again they didn't go for long series. No, they don't.
Oski:Japanese animation. A lot of them go for really long, all the time, yeah, but in America, like BTS, Batman, the Animated Series that one ran for also like 50 episodes yeah, that's a good one that was a great anime trailer. It could have run for longer.
xFer:I know there's enough Batman content out there and BTS was such a unique take on Batman at the time. You know Batman Because I'm sure in the 90s you had the boom, bop, bop, bop, like Adam West, right, right. But this one brought in like, hey, I know this is for kids, but not as you watch as a kid, these had some sad stories. Yeah, these were like for like a 90s anime. They were talking about mental health. You guys remember the guy that was the Hakupo gangster, but he was like a puppet, but it's the puppet controlling it, which I'm hearing. You know there's a pokemon in Japan, right, right, right, or you can already recall it, but here it was like no bro, this is mental health, this is a guy suffering from this thing and he was so good at it. He organized crime. You know, like that, concepts like that. You know, like the V-Tex in the 90s it was.
Oski:You know. That's an example of a Western cartoon that like it was meant for kids but it had like good stories.
xFer:Yeah man Like the Mr Freeze episode.
Merc:So sad, but it was my love you know, but how many episodes or how many seasons is the animated series going for Batman? I think it went for three seasons. Three seasons, but look, how can we have like eight seasons of a slice of life anime, bro? We only got three of the you know the animated series. Those are bad. Come on, bro, Japanese anime. They just keep going.
Oski:But see, that's what I'm saying.
Merc:They don't care about nothing Like there's one called Kariya-sama.
Oski:Love is War. It's about these two students in high school that you know. Of course. They're in love with each other.
xFer:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Stuff like that to me Bought in my life my 80s though, so in my mind, I'm like dude, that's a lot.
Merc:But I'm like is it because we?
Merc:have short attention span? Is it because we have a higher standard of what cartoons are?
xFer:No, bro, it sells Like. Look in Japan, bro, for them they have Gundams right, and all they do is do the big of the Gundam with the whole detail. But here in the West, bro, we have like we may not go scale size rarely, but we do like Transform, like Transformers, and Transformers since the 80s has been pushing the same envelope A new movie, a new this, a remastered that.
Merc:Now that I think about it, it fades into from the animated series. It went into Batman Beyond, right, that was like the next thing that came out afterwards, right, because it went from young Bruce Wayne to old man Wayne, and that's when.
xFer:No, no, I'm talking about how other things that have recurring length, like, for example, gundam Wing, like Gundams. Gundams is like their own version. They've been recycled like 18 times we offer us. Like Transformers right, transformers is the western version of Gundam Our. Transformers, bro. Like you know, a T-Rex though. Yeah, bro, a T-Rex dog, A Gundam dog yeah, bro, it just works with a T-Rex. Eat it, that one just has wings. That's cool.
Merc:But a Transformer can't fly though. Oh no, I guess Scarves doesn't need to, bro.
Oski:It's like a jetpack, but I don't know Both long time franchises and every year they come out with a different version, Do you?
Merc:think Transformers is just like the American bop of Gundam, like they saw it, and they're like oh bro, this is great, but like American works is honestly amazing. Make it a semi-truck, though. Nothing more American than a semi-truck, bro.
xFer:Nothing more American than a semi-truck. And the colors too, bro.
Oski:This anime compared to Western, like the Gundam series, a lot of those. Gundam series are like really dark and mature.
Merc:Yeah, really dope like I'm talking about the Transformers. That's why Aliens coming here and blowing shit up. Bro, I was gonna say that their planet got destroyed. They had a civil war. Right, that was their dark spot, that their planet, their planet like, destroyed itself because of the. The back actually called it Septicons, pretty straightforward.
xFer:That sounds cool as fuck, bro, but you know what I never saw? They're in the colonies, you know. You know how classy that is.
Merc:Yeah, they're in some colonies. I can't tell you that I've ever seen a bunch of back stories like the battles and the wars that they had. They talk about it like we had a terrible war. But you never see it. And then in one movie you get a glimpse, maybe like five or ten minutes in the beginning of one movie, yeah, like the real ones, and they're like, oh, this is epic, you'll never see this again.
xFer:We recap with Gundam Wing how we watched as younger. We're like, oh my god, oh my god, it's a Gundam. And then we watch it again today it's like oh my god, how many people died Bro, how many people died In that colony.
Oski:Number what there's children. The whole space colony was destroyed. It was amazing. I think that's something Japanese anime does. They put a lot more adult themes in their animation.
xFer:It's like we both do it. I just noticed that now we both do it. It's like when you go back in retrospect you're like, oh wait, because now you have the glasses. Oh, I get low-key, just like you were talking about in the beat-ups with Batman. You should wanna see Batman push the guy in the face and that guy you know he's bent in the heels like, oh come on, batman, you couldn't pay for the treatment, bro you know you didn't have to go that hard.
Merc:You could've just had a job. Yeah, come on now talk. You need to have insurance.
Oski:Yeah, the ground between adult animation and stuff that's made for kids is clearly divided. You get stuff like Rick and Morty, which is specifically for adults, that's true, and then you get animation for kids.
Merc:There is no median, I guess there's no middle ground In Japanese anime.
Oski:Anime ranges from my Hero of the Day Jujutsu Kaisen. The same thing made for young shonen, but it's bloody. It's not necessarily made for kids yeah, not, but it's shonen, though it kind of gets that middle ground. Compared to Western animation, there's no middle ground and there's exceptions, like the Last Airbender. The Last Airbender can be enjoyed by everybody. I would throw the Last Airbender.
xFer:That's a nice way to bring like a mixture. Like I was not an animated American cartoon. Right, that's the standard rules, right?
Oski:oh yeah, are you that I'm talking to me and that is like wow, that's me being in Japan.
xFer:Like tequila has to come out of Mexico, yeah.
Merc:But it is great though. But it is great, the influence is like for sure. You can definitely tell from that the western influence is. But you can tell the story was really good, I liked that one. But I feel like it would have been darker, possibly if there was a Japanese variation of it.
Oski:Yeah, I mean you wish Korra and Korra was a little more mature. Yeah, and if you guys got two flicks, I didn't get a chance. I got one after that. I'm the only true fan out here. There's two. Oh, courtney Irving, she watched Mora.
Merc:Yeah, she watched Mora. How's it going? She knows.
Oski:She knows, Did she nap? Alright? What's the other comparison that we're gonna make? Oh, the lip-syncing. Japanese has such a big library of anime and so much experience with it that if you watch Japanese anime and the lip-syncing like lines up almost perfectly. What's the cartoons like?
xFer:Like Spongebob.
Oski:Yeah, just the mouth motion. They don't try to mimic what somebody would actually like. Sound like, yeah, sound like the inflection. The inflection and the mouth movement Continue anyway. Inflection right on the inflection and the mouth movement. Continuing the way um the lip-syncing is done better in Japanese anime.
Merc:I feel like, yeah, and it just depends too, man, like there's so much more emotion, like there's so much more yelling, so much more feelings and crying something wrong, like American they do.
xFer:I do like that about anime. It's like the yelling, it's like your song yeah, with the digital. Yeah, I decided for the character yeah, well, here's a thing they were more silent again, more powerful again, like you know something, like suddenly that Superman is smiling. You know I'm serious you wouldn't smile.
Merc:It's a right, oh the. Goku shirt comes off, maybe we'll focus on expression, right?
xFer:oh, you don't want to.
Merc:Goku's shirt comes off, it's about to get real.
xFer:Maybe Hulk. Hulk's the one that's special, right? Oh yeah, Hulk would be the one that you know well, he stays the same. He doesn't yell, he stays Hulk mad. He gets more mad, he gets angry.
Merc:That's true. Yeah, that's it. He gets more mad. Everything gets mad. Yeah, but no, I love it, though. Like, if you think about 2, and 3 were all different. Tanjiro's scream whenever he got pissed off about Goku dying, remember whenever the demon was running away. Totally different scream If you watch Solo Leveling one of the last big fights from the big boss at the end was insane. But again they're all yells, but they're all different meanings and different types for different scenarios and situations, but they all hit differently at the same time.
Oski:It's great. I love that play. That's part of the voice acting. Yeah, I feel like Japanese anime does better voice acting too, bro, the Japanese Bro. And now you know voice acting is getting a lot better here in the States too. Yes, western animation, like DC movies, whatever the DC animated movies oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the voice acting wasn't that great, but if you watch the DC animated movies now, the voice acting is Is much better, and they're getting big names in there too, yeah, which I'm excited about.
Merc:You know what? Even Studio Ghibli's got big names too that step into their anime. They got what Christian Bale that stepped in before.
Oski:Oh, the dubbing. You know like voice actors become famous in Japan.
Merc:Yeah, I wish that was more thing here in America bro.
Oski:But, like the voice actors are getting famous for dubbing Japanese anime, yeah, but not for doing like you know, animation, just just the voice, not as famous. You know. There's a few names that are really famous, right.
Merc:Goku Wa and uh, was it Luffy?
Oski:Are like their voice actors are iconic because of just their names alone, because of their voice, but you get the voice actors from, uh, from cartoons, from like um God, I can't think of a name the guy that does the aliens and stuff. Oh yeah, those guys are legends.
xFer:That's one thing I like about anime is the way they, over time, have now I'm spoiled in 2024, but throughout time how their scenes of fighting have just drastically improved. Their scenes of fighting have just drastically improved. But that's one thing I give more to Japanese, to the anime, which is the fighting, because it's so fluid, fast and memorable, and even the camera angles that they use and I know that the US has capabilities of that, because I'm thinking about it like the intros of like Thundercats or like intro of Animaniacs or intro of Batman, like the same fluidity I'm talking about, but it's in the intro right and like, hey, you have this and today it's like you can make like for example what's his name?
Oski:the guy with the uh, oh, ben 10.
xFer:Yes, right, like whenever I watch it it's too like back and forth like very in the panel kind of fight. There's much like in animes, like they compete in, like let's do these crazy angles, these crazy shots. Like, hey, like this one was a girl, like Demon Slayer the 360. Let's push down the fireworks, yeah, yeah.
Merc:So that's one thing definitely.
xFer:It's like if, like, if they were to integrate that to like. Let's push sometimes in all the nations, like, like, like. I remember the fights of johnny, but oh, they're moving so fast, I can't see it. You see, like explosions in here.
Merc:That's really yeah, remember they even made fun of you. Just like you can't do it because you're not sensing the energy properly yeah, yeah, man, yeah are they yeah moving so fast you can't even see that.
xFer:Today they're on shows.
Oski:They really are.
xFer:Today they're on shows like Invincible and Amazon. I'm sure right, but let's be honest back in the day, not until there's a heavy influence of anime today, not like there was before, it's like, oh, you see the game change now when it comes to Western fights.
Merc:You can tell it was a big step up, but I love that there are definitely influences that take from Japan and they're influencing them in an American show. There's some shows like Gumball as an example. Gumball is one of those shows that the Amazing World of Gumball, where they have definitely pulled Dragon Ball Z references and other anime references and thrown them in random fight scenes or sequences and that's a strictly American cartoon that they've pulled from Japanese references. It's so funny how they do it, you know, but it's great.
Oski:it's great what they did. But even the types of animation that Japanese anime does you know like the animation is so varied it's got a different style, and of course you've got different styles in Western cartoons too, but it's more limited to what you know.
Merc:You know, but they have everybody's favorites Isekai's right, which, if it's more limited, to like what you know, yeah yeah. Right, so it's just, but there is no American version of that line. I guess like of that.
xFer:That's one thing that they keep to themselves, right, I guess that's that's specific. Yeah, the AC cat version. Yeah, we got a fantasy cartoon which is tough.
Merc:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah but he was at like what, Like Foster's Home for Imaginary Pets. I remember that show. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like Adventure Time, Adventure Time, Adventure Time, bro, that could be one.
xFer:Yeah, what's the other one that camp one there was over the over the Garnet Wash or something that it's called. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that, but still.
Oski:Which ones are like random and kind of cool on Netflix? The Universal ones, like the Jurassic World, camp Cretaceous, what it's? The Jurassic World cartoon You're right for like like four seasons and the fifth season is coming back. What that's?
Merc:pretty good, is it Jacksonville?
Oski:Yeah, but imagine Jacksonville like anime, yeah basically the kids have a summer camp after the first movie and then the park gets destroyed and the kids get stranded there and they gotta survive for like months.
Merc:Damn, they forgot about these kids.
Oski:That's terrible, bro. They gotta learn the lessons, of course, the lessons for family.
Merc:And how not to play God. That's terrible, bro. What a life lesson, sorry, anyway.
Oski:Now play God and the.
Merc:Panthers.
Oski:And then you know we're also into Fast and Furious. They're spy racers.
Merc:Is it animated series for Fast and Furious? Nah, oh that's cool.
Oski:It's Dominic's adoptive nephew or something. He gets together a group of kids that they're spy racers. Oh, there's cartoons on Netflix that expand on universes. Oh, I didn't know that Damn. I didn't know that they learned that from Japanese anime, this idea of connecting and expanding the universe.
Merc:Oh, I didn't think about that yeah, yeah, yeah Because you know some of the great. We have great American crossovers, but Japan has some amazing crossovers too, though, with other. You know we're opening them up for other shows. You know They'll make cameos on Saturday Morning Cartoon and stuff like that. They've done them with Dragon Ball Z in, and the other ones too, naruto, and that's another thing like.
xFer:The difference is like everything comes from the anime right, don't get me wrong. And like anime, some mangas I'm sorry mangas are gorgeous, like the ones from like Berserk. You know the painting is beautiful, but we always see the same trope. You know, is that pointy nose, that triangle nose? You know how beautiful is that. Everything else is like pointy nose, triangle nose. But then you see beautiful like Marvel, dc, black Horse, like you see, that's art. That person is like bro. You could have put that in a 16th chapel. People like Alex Ross, like bro. Look how beautiful these are. Every artist, that's a big difference.
xFer:If anything it's like you know the gringos have a way better, like comic, you know, way that one stands out to me more Like. I'd rather look at the color schemes, because the color schemes don't be like oh like. If you see the old, the 80s ones or the 90s ones, it's like colors are black, dark, blue, red, compact red packed in yellow, but they're like boom, it's something, it's like all these gods from, like all these, I think it's it's space, but mostly it's dark because it's space, but somehow they make it like stand out bright.
Merc:Right.
xFer:Everything in mangas is like black and white. You know that's super true, yeah, I know, I know, I know I know, I know.
Oski:I know, I know, I know it's like, oh, they're in color now.
Merc:Yeah, they look at the colors of the manga and they're like black and white. Yeah the tradition to come black and white, which I guess is why it's more exciting to see them in an anime, because now you see them in color in full motion.
Oski:Yeah, it's a big deal. And Japanese anime they adapt all their mangas, you know yeah, To the TV action.
Merc:All those comics got adapted into an animated version or a live action version.
Oski:I'm used to getting laughed about with so many comic stories that they can just adapt.
xFer:Yes, I went for Spider-Man, I went for the whole Spider-Man story. I went for Batman.
Merc:B-town's made again, but they're like we're gonna be original, why you have like 80 years of working material. I just want what I read.
Oski:They made the DC movie based on the Injustice video game. Yeah, and they had to change it. Why did they change? It, and then they crammed it all in one movie. I was like Injustice is such a good story, they could have just stuck to the video game.
Merc:The comic books were broken into multiple series, multiple arcs, the games were broken into multiple games.
Oski:Injustice year one, Injustice year two.
Merc:Injustice 1 and 2, and they finished the entire thing in a movie. Come on. An hour and a half. Come on, bro. That's true. So that was, but anime does a great transaction. It literally sticks to the page From page to anime. It's just pooled. It's the same thing. That's what I love, and if anything.
xFer:It's like hey, we're making changes to the ending, so you're gonna think of a different ending. Then just add on like two scenes. You know like just expanded the length of a sword or something. Exactly. That's your extra ending. That exhale wasn't in the comic, like in the book. Yeah, we're sorry. We're like a ten day apology letter and we change everything. I'm sorry.
Merc:The fact that people have broken down like how much the anime is filler versus how much is the actual manga based. I mean, come on, bro, that's a big deal. There's no comparison like that for the American adaptations, bro.
xFer:But that's the one thing. It's like they have fillers bro for days. Even though it's like hey, it sticks to the manga. Yeah, bro, if they catch up Now they pulled the American side we gotta come up with an original story, but the Americans don't have filler episodes.
Merc:The next episode matters for the most part, right? Well, I mean, yeah, they do have filler episodes. Like, the next episode matters for the most part, right? Well, you would think I mean, yeah, you just have filler episodes. But do you think who has more though? American Cell, bro? I'll tell you.
Oski:Yeah, bro, another difference between like Japanese and Western cartoons. Is that Japanese anime have these overarching storylines.
xFer:Yeah, western cartoons for the most part, are like one-off episodes. That's true, batman fights a villain of the week. That's true, spongebob does something silly for the day. The Transformers fight the Decepticons. Well, here's the thing about it. It's like hey, I want to start watching. Hey, man, I want to watch this.
Merc:We're just picking up this episode bro, does it connect to the previous one?
Oski:No, I mean, if you miss an episode, it matters yeah. That's right.
Merc:That one could you imagine just happen in the one piece naked. Really, this is their mission to get the one piece right. Yeah, bro, it's so much more than that Into random, you know you don't get naked.
xFer:Yeah, you can't randomly jump into random segments. Start from zero.
Merc:But could you imagine having no flashback episodes, like if I was a Dave Warner bro and remember Enos Lobby when they jumped down that bridge? Like eight episodes, bro. It's all flashbacks, that's true. I would have been so pissed if I didn't watch it, that's another thing you have no flashback, bro.
xFer:Batman doesn't go. Hey, remember that shit. I did like ten days ago. You know, we don't do that shit either. I didn't even think about that? Yeah, I didn't no problem and if anything, it's something from that same episode like two seconds ago. The only flashback to me is just to when he lost his parents.
Oski:We always got a flashback to that.
xFer:Or Spider-Man and Uncle Ben. I was tired of seeing Uncle Ben die.
Merc:bro, that's another thing bro, we repeat.
xFer:So many times Watched.
Merc:Planet Destroy. Every time, every time, bro, I'm sick of it, I'm tired of these stupid things. But Animes is like alright. How did this person's parents die this time?
xFer:Yeah.
Merc:Was it vampires, Demons? Oh bro, what's gonna? How do?
xFer:you kill them. Is there a tournament? Yes, Duh.
Merc:There's ranking captains. There's a rooftop scene. Yes, it has to If it's not a rooftop, it's a top of a mountain Duh.
Oski:What kind of revenge?
Merc:plot are we going to use?
Merc:Yeah, exactly, but see, look okay like here's a perfect example Pokemon Ultimate goal world's very best Pokemon trainer. You meet other side characters, other Pokemon. So the journeys that you have, character growth and development that takes place with these characters and it's a kid show Pokemon is, you know, pokemon bro they have pinky in the brain.
xFer:The same thing every day and they fail every day what are we gonna?
Oski:try to do today brain, you find out each other's MC3 is a real mastermind.
xFer:Turns out he was a genius all the time, all this time, but no man.
Merc:For me, that's definitely one of the things it's like for anime. I look at it and it's a different scope. I hear when people are like what do you mean? It's a cartoon? No, it's not a cartoon. There's a big difference between anime versus a cartoon, would you guys agree?
Oski:There's some exceptions to her. Like you know, there's some Western countries, are you know be Like? I was just thinking about watching episodes of the X-men 97, but even that cartoon back there. But the intro went hard.
Merc:Why did these cartoons? They took Spiderman X-Men. Those two other ones were sick guitarists for no reason. I'm just being a dope bro. It's like, yeah, it's just like what's Van Halen up to.
Oski:Is he ever on X-Men?
Merc:I don't know but it sounds like it's on X-Men.
Merc:I wouldn't probably use it you want to talk about it Just like Just Say Go as an example.
xFer:Oh, that makes sense.
Merc:I don't hear that, bro, and I can say I can bench 225. I don't hear that Everybody hears that Nah, I hear Just Say Go, I'm ready to do 4 miles bro.
xFer:The day is safe, bro. The day is saved.
Merc:I didn't say you're wrong. I didn't say you're wrong, but I'm just saying like, who does it better? In my opinion, japan has so many more people Cause you hear that it's a chance Goku may die.
xFer:You know the suspense, bro. But, you hear it's over, bro. Batman had prepped for it to show up. I'm gonna call it bro.
Merc:I'm gonna knock the villain.
xFer:I don't think he's gonna make it. No, bro, batman too, godzilla Batman, bro, what you mean 90% of the time. You know the.
Merc:American cartoons are gonna always win. They're gonna always win. Once a cartoonist the hero always wins, but in One Piece, bro. You know that there's another nine seasons left, but you're like dang is he gonna make it out bro.
Oski:I mean, he's a bleep.
xFer:I don't know how, sometimes their feelings weigh in. And my hero, right, my hero they just said a random American hero on the B-22? If the American president was like I'll take this serious. He's saying over the bird, he's talking about Robin, game over bro, game over bro.
Merc:Robin was solo. Robin was solo. That's what my hero did that.
xFer:He has to be One better. Cheers.
Oski:Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.
Merc:Cheers.
Oski:Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. What a coincidence.
Merc:Tmnt was really popular in Japan, that's the last role that comes into play, right, yeah, yeah, it's the last several.
Oski:Stories like that are paying homage to manga artists taking influence from the 80s, 90s, tmnt.
xFer:That's a little one. Bringing it back to the intros, the scene from my Hero Academia is.
Oski:His sign is literally based on TMT.
Merc:I didn't even touch that, I didn't even think about that.
Oski:I fed the whole thing.
Merc:I thought it was Michael Jackson that's correct, Alright.
xFer:I'll stop. What were you gonna say? No, that one that's one of the TMT. There's like how, like the animation, the intros, like's high speed, the United States has the capabilities, but if you look back at the ones from the 90s, even today, the Ninja Turtles only the most recent one that Nickelodeon did was the one that was fast-paced. They didn't have powers, they went to the Netflix ended it with the movie. It's what anime. It's what Americans picked up anime style battle it was perfect.
Merc:I saw something like that. Right, they all had like superpowers of a certain set, like a certain trait that they was like heightened yeah.
xFer:It went all out. The tools, yeah, like spiritual tools yeah.
Merc:It looked like bullet shot like my hero, academia stuff right.
xFer:Like it looked crazy Because we have the capabilities, we have the technology. You know we're like we waste it on Pixar. I'm not hating on Pixar, right. Like I love the Incredibles, but like sometimes it's like man, I miss them Because I see them do it, you know. And like we have cartoons, but like bro, remember American animated cartoons. Yeah, man, me too, I can't say that. Remember, remember, yeah, bro, yeah.
Oski:America puts their big budget on animated films. Yeah. But I don't think the budget on. You know weekly cartoons and Cartoon Network or other methods.
Merc:That's disappointing man they're missing out on some venues. I can think of some great stories, bro. If they had a budget it would have been so much better. We just want to continue on the story. Spider-man, the amazing spider-man from back in the 90s, bro, ended up such a great cliffhanger, you know, but still, though, like that that was an amazing story. Again, batman, the animated story but I like they never should have stopped, like why didn't we stop it for three seasons? Why didn't we stop it for four seasons? Like it was just again. Like we phased over to spider-man unlimited, yeah, batman beyond. Like that was the next phase of what cartoons that had kind of went into. We had just forgot about everything else.
xFer:That's another thing, bro. If you're not talking about Japanese or American, then I say that we have way better live action than their live action animes. Maybe once in the blue pool you'll get a good live action anime One piece, and then. That was it True Before that. Yeah, that was it. Bro, we have like 10 bad guys, bro, they're all hard. Bro. Ben Affleck tough, you know. Bruce Nolan tough, we don't talk about.
Oski:well, we're talking about that man, george Clooney tough you know Nipples tougher, you know that was good Anyway.
xFer:But yeah, no man, it's true though.
Merc:Like our adaptations from our comic books, I guess, to live-action movies is amazing. Like Infinity War was epic dog, I mean.
xFer:Granted, it took 15 years to build, even the ones where like after the fact, you're like oh surprise, it's a comic, you know it's like 300. That's just an example of thing, though. Like like 300, that was an example of a thing, though, like when it first came out, all we really knew was a graphic novel, you know. But then, like, as the movie comes out, it's being advertised oh, it's from Frank Miller's. And then you're like oh, you started with Sin City. Like these are going, you know, yeah.
Merc:Watchmen, you know yeah.
Oski:So people are like, what do you mean? Really stuck to the graphic novel that was to the very end. But halfway through the movie it was like the colors mean everything.
Merc:I thought it was interesting that one jail scene that fights him was supposed to be like two pages in the graphic novel, but it was like a whole ten minute sequence, but it was six though I was like okay, dope, and then it went back to the page and then, towards the end, they changed it to make it more live action.
Merc:Yeah, but see, like I think had they sent the original ending, I think it would have been great. It would have been hard to like put it on the screen. See, though it would have been great to see though. No, but the Watchers was one of those like great American movies in my opinion, that they really well, but I don't think that was very much.
Oski:Yeah, they already affected that that is so well into an anime. I've been like when they adapted live action. It's like I mean, it's great. Yeah, the anime is already back in that's true cuz it's hard to do anything. You end up comparing the live action to the anime. We're here, you're comparing watch thing to the breath level. I mean, there's no middle ground, but it is so much harder to do what's been done in the anime and make it look cool in live action.
Merc:Like those ridiculous fight scenes are so much harder to pull off in real life. That's why we got Dragon Ball Z Evolution. Yeah Well, that wasn't working.
Oski:We gotta put that on the US.
Merc:I'm just saying it's so hard to make something like that happen. Why, though, like the first live-action anime that I can say that it was done here I don't know if it was on the us Did Netflix do one piece here? So for me I'm like that was the first one, but why did it take freaking 2023? I'll get it right. It wasn't that popular, wasn't it though?
xFer:Well, anyway any of them like there's like Full Metal, Brotherhood and like Live Action, there's like even some like Romance. Yeah, those are old timey, but mostly it's mostly like since the series, bro, since Superman, bro, when he would spin the world backwards to bring back Willis Lane. Bro, come on, that live action was great. It looked real, bro, like somebody put a camera on now outside of Earth. How did they do?
Oski:this. That's crazy. Side note, I was watching an episode of a little series called Powerless. It was a DC series. It's a Wayne Enterprises division. That's called Damage Control and they clean up after the message of heroes, right, and they got one episode where the concept is Lewis Lane died and everybody's like go wild, do whatever you want, but the Superman's gonna turn back time. And then the day goes by and then they go to Lewis Lane's funeral and Superman never turns back.
Merc:What Are you for real? That's why they go wild. Wow, wow, wow. And I'm like we gotta pay for all these crimes.
xFer:Now I gotta get that police car back. And powerless.
Oski:That was a little 10 episode, season 1 jam. That should have had a season 2.
Merc:I gotta go, apologize to my neighbor that was like watching NBC.
xFer:I'm gonna blame that on my dog.
Oski:That was hilarious. Superman never turned back time and he showed up at the Louis Lane funeral with a tight chick.
Merc:Yeah, talking about moving forward, bro, but you know what the great adaptations that are from the same universe are. I died and came back to reincarnate as Yamcha. Oh the spin-offs.
xFer:That's another thing, bro. Batman is a better father than Goku.
Merc:I'm sorry, yeah bro, he trains all of his kids. Is he a Batman, I mean.
xFer:Bro, he raised.
Oski:Orphanage, bro. What you mean, bro? He's a real kid. What's his name? Damien Wayne. Damien Wayne, yeah, he's an assassin. How is he a better guy, bro?
Merc:Bro, that's cool, bro, what you mean. As soon as he found out he was an assassin, he's like no, put him on the street, you can't rob him. Oh yes, he knew, you can't just cut cut, turn and run. He's like look, man, look, I know it's hard to win on killing people straight out, so we're going to do this slowly. I'm going to reprimand you.
Oski:No, you can't use your other side.
Merc:You can take him, Bro Cell. Send him to me, Get him.
Oski:I've never done the same here, Joker, he's a sentry.
Merc:I've never done the same. No man, I don't know. You think so. I don't know. That's what I want to do in home game. I don't know. Bro Goku's like oof, that's tough. You got it.
xFer:I think he's got it. The thing is, he gave it to Piccolo to go train my son bro, but that was training bro. No, no, no, he didn't train my son, he told his son bro remember. If these are 14 year olds, just like Gohan, he was 14. No.
Merc:Gohan was like 11 when he fucked up. Even worse, he was like 8 when he fucked up.
xFer:At least Batman waited until Thor was 13, bro yeah bro, right there.
Merc:Batman is a better dad. I'll give you two minutes. He wasn't fighting the strongest being in the universe at eight, so I mean.
Oski:Okay, so we'll put it on Western Cartoon to get it better Does the father figure, does the father?
xFer:figure, the father figure, it's all about broken homes, bro.
Merc:Every anime is about a broken home the mom's not there, dad's not there.
Merc:Somebody died. They're blaming somebody for somebody's death. It's you that?
Merc:should have died. Well, that's Japanese culture, you know it's. Why, though? See, look America. We're like we're gonna build this, we're gonna make this work. Okay, You're gonna come back home. Oh, good guy now.
xFer:So we need the Batman. Bro, I was like Pop Uncle Ben, but you always had that father thing you always had that.
Merc:I don't know, man, but who do you? Think has more iconic quotable lines Like America or Japan as anime series. You think about great power, great responsibility, Pikachu. I choose you, bro, I choose you.
Oski:That was neck to neck bro.
Merc:That was a tough one we got stuck for about a millisecond that's iconic, bro.
xFer:Take that anywhere.
Merc:I'm not giving responsibility. Pikachu same level.
Merc:I hear the same, thing, same. Thing.
Oski:I summon I summon cowabunga.
Merc:see you later, space cowboy. I think it's the same thing. I summon. I summon Kawabanga. See you later, space Cowboy. It's all the same thing. Good stuff. I think that Japan does music better as far as in the fight scenes, in the climax of building the stuff.
Oski:I think it's all part of Japan's bigger budget. That's what I was thinking. They got better animation. They put better music into it.
Merc:Dude. The fact that they got a whole like orchestra for an anime is ridiculous, so like, all right, bro, this is the last scene. The character's going to die after this. We need everybody to do their best. So are you ready? Yeah, dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun, you know Like, oh, let's go.
xFer:There's a thing like the intros in anime that make or break music careers, like if it's like the song of the summer, like it's like the equivalent of here, like of an artist, it makes a career, yeah.
Merc:I mean there's an award for Anime OP or Song of the Year.
xFer:Like it's a song like Ninja Turtles. It's whether or not it makes it, and then me in the summer. You know, you know what.
Merc:I'm like whoa. I'm like whoa, it's hard.
Merc:But uh, my musical for me personally, I'm like that determines whether or not I put it in my dream playlist. If it's a banger, it goes in the list, If not, I'm like ah this is cool. But if it goes in the list, bro, it gives me hype, it gives me energy, it makes me think of a moment. That's what gives me energy, Okay, I see what you're saying.
xFer:I can even work to jam Japanese anime music to like. Hype me up to a sports event.
Merc:You know what? His fight with the Joker, his fight with Scarecrow, his fight with Frost. You're not going to jam that at the gym. I'm not going to do that at the gym. Sorry, this is training.
xFer:Okay, different thing. You know, that's a minute and a half pump, though.
Merc:That's as long as you enjoy it, you better get it on. But that anime OP, you're like I'm excited. You guys are three and a half minutes. This is like his first time. What do you mean?
Oski:it's a part two. Yeah, bro, absolutely yeah yeah, yeah.
Merc:So and then when you mess around, you're like wait, this whole artist has more music and they're all bangers. Bro, that's true. Yeah, I'll tell you the best when they had that one group that came out with those two open oh yeah. Rock and Roll, oh yeah, sins. Yeah right, that's true.
Oski:No, no, you're right, you're right, I gave it to them. We've gone over some stuff where Japanese did it better, anime did it better, and then other stuff where Western cartoons did it better. What do you think at the end of the day?
xFer:Mexico, because they don't censor shit, they don't care, they don't have any FCC out there. That's what hurts.
Oski:I think that's what hurts with Western cartoons the real hard censorship, Because there's no censorship in them there no. They put crazy stuff in, like kids' cartoons.
xFer:There you go.
Oski:There was a good movie, right? Yeah? Kids' cartoons and then adult animations. Adult animation, that's true. Like Bugs Burgers is not for kids, right Family Guy. Family Guy is definitely not for kids.
xFer:Yeah, I would say Simpson is not for kids, but like I see kids like watching it, like this, really cartoons.
Merc:That was our introduction to like cartoons. Yeah, for me personally, but I would say that Japan did a better man in my opinion. Again, like just just generally out, they did it well in my opinion Because, again, the music, the fight scenes, the cinematography, the backgrounds, I mean there's a lot the OPs, the EPs, the moments, there are a lot. Don't get me wrong, there's some great stuff in the animation that I love, that I will always like. Again, this is where I live, this is where my hometown is the hometown, but, like I've definitely said, like, hats off, gotta get my roses to Japan for doing it right 100%.
Oski:Yeah, I think there's more probes in Japanese anime. Yeah, we've kind of gone over where, like they do a lot of stuff better or they, you know, they put a lot into their animation. Yeah, but Western Cartoon is different in its own kind, absolutely. I grew up with Western cartoons, yeah, yeah.
xFer:I just want more, more, more cartoons, more Western animation.
Oski:I wish I wish there was more Western animation. Movies yeah, me too DC comes with its animated films every few years. But they need to do like you know series. More series More mature.
Merc:Yeah, bring it back. Yeah, I want some. Whatever they're doing in the movies, make that into a series. Yeah, because their animated movies are great Like a lot of them are really really good. If they got their live action and their animated people together and they worked that out, you know, to make that fit, bro, they'd be making some bangers. But until then, you know, there's.
Oski:It buries so much, but that's the best part about it. It's so. You know, I just keep watching, yeah.
xFer:I want to run out and always start episode one. You always start an episode. Always start an episode.
Oski:And you can always go a thousand episodes. That's true, or you go twelve. I might always just think of you know one thing. Yeah, I might always think of a Japanese anime instead of watching more Jurassic World cartoons. That's just me, that's just me Check out Captain Patience.
xFer:He's in four of them. What about you, andrew? There's still so much potential still with the American cartoons. I think it's still great because I do see Japanese copycat from us, at least the cool things that we do have. So I think it's neck to neck. Honestly, today is very popular, but I think it's neck to neck. Honestly. Today's very popular. But I always feel there's always potential man, like just with the technology they have today, like it could be just as good. That's why I hope to see one day more animated movie cartoons, like there was back in the day, yeah, very much.
xFer:so yeah, because if Ghibli's doing it for like five bucks. You know then. You know I'm exaggerating, but you know one of us.
Merc:Yeah, man, absolutely. Well, guys, you heard it here first that it's a tie. That's right. Guys. Thank you so much. You guys be the tiebreaker. Let us know Two out of three people disagree. That's right and we have one tiebreaker that's don't text, but yeah, we are.
Oski:My name is Oski, my name is XFED, my name is Mert and we are the WBM Podcast. Again, we need better media. Find us just WBM Podcast. Wherever you listen to your podcasts Spotify, apple Podcast. Amazon and you can search us on social media. Wbm underscore podcast.
xFer:That's right thank you so much. Hot damn, ladies and gentlemen, we did it again. We done, done, did it again. Y'all Guys, comic Palooza was such a blast 2024 was so much fun guys.
Oski:And that panel was a lot of fun. Thank you to everybody that came out to the panel. Yeah, man, it was early in the morning on Saturday morning but we had a little bit of an audience, so shout out to everybody that came out to the panel. Yeah, man, it was early in the morning on Saturday morning, but we had a little bit of an audience, so shout out to everybody that came out and thank y'all for sitting there and enjoying the content we delivered that morning.
xFer:Hearing y'all laugh and enjoying yourselves really helps us double down on why we do this. Because it's for y'all.
Merc:It's for each and every one of you.
Oski:Thank you, you guys not just our morning panel, also our Comic Palooza After Dark panel thank you to everybody that came out for. Comic Palooza After Dark. You can find that bonus content on our YouTube channel for After Dark. Only listen to it all night that's right, guys.
Merc:And then there's one more extra panel on there on our YouTube channel. Go check it out. Oh yeah. It's not the whole panel, but go check it out, go find it, go find it. Yeah, it's on there.
Oski:Bonus footage, bonus footage.
Merc:You don't have to join our Patreon for that one, Just go follow us on YouTube. But other than that, ladies and gentlemen, again we appreciate you so much.
xFer:Thank you know what I'm saying. Graduation, ladies and gentlemen, that's right. Graduation, that's what I'm talking about, that we all be singing graduation.
Merc:All right, I'm going to stop.
xFer:So yeah, man again, suki, how did Kong Palooza go for you?
Merc:Oh no, sounds like we ran out of time. Ladies and gentlemen, what's next, guys?
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