Taking Healthcare by Storm: Industry Insights with Andrew Bailes & Richard Green

In this captivating episode of Taking Healthcare by Storm, delve into the world of expert insights as Quality Insights Medical Director Dr. Jean Storm engages in a thought-provoking and informative discussion with Andrew Bailes, Founder, and Richard Green, Assistant Program Director, of God's Way Home in Rainelle, WV. 

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Hello everyone, and welcome to Taking Healthcare by Storm.

I am Dr.

Jean Storm, Medical Director at Quality Insights.

And today I am so delighted to have two individuals on the podcast who are truly inspiring and making a difference where it is really needed the most, you could argue.

Today I am joined with Andrew Bailes and Richard Green from God's Way Home in Rennell, West Virginia.

Thank you both for joining me.

We appreciate you all having us.

So I just want to jump in.

Can you tell us how you both came to do what you do?

Some years back when I first got sober, I felt led to get into the ministry and help people that were struggling with substance abuse disorder.

I didn't really quite jump on it right then and then, but a little bit over a year ago, my wife ended up meeting some of the guys in God's Way Home and got a card from them.

And I came up and shared my testimony with them and started serving here doing Bible study and discipleship with the guys.

And it just kind of unraveled from there.

And eventually at some point, employment was talked about and Andrew ended up putting me on staff a few months ago.

And I ended up becoming the assistant program director here serving and helping out with different areas in the ministry.

And Andrew, I would love to hear how you came to do what you do.

I know you founded God's Way Home.

So I'd love to hear that story.

Yeah, I don't know how much time we have.

It would take a long time to really dive into it.

In February of 2015, God laid a sermon on my heart about prayer.

About drug addicts out of the book of Acts chapter 12.

And Peter had been in prison.

And anyway, I started praying.

I didn't know what, I knew I needed to pray for drug addicts and others than that.

That's the only directive I had.

I prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed some more.

In February of 2018, I started hitting the streets in Raynaille, talking to people that were drug addicts and becoming their friends and trying to help them.

Later that year, he talked to the data center in Greenbrier County and their plea to us as the faith community where across the board was long-term housing.

And so we started looking for property, ended up buying the building that God's Way Home is.

In February of 2019, everything happened in February.

And we opened up in June of 2021 after a year and a half of remodeling and writing grants.

And getting a plan together to open up long-term housing.

It's amazing.

It's certainly a labor of love.

Yeah, it's been a process for sure.

A lot of learning.

I'm not a recovering addict myself.

Never been on drugs.

None of my family ever have been.

So, it's definitely been an eye-opening experience, but no doubt, I'm glad to do it.

Have you both always lived in West Virginia?

I have not.

I'm originally from Southern Maryland area.

I was born in Fairfax, Virginia, and ended up pretty much raised in Maryland most of my life.

I've traveled and moved throughout my life, throughout my journey.

I'm in recovery myself, so my addiction kind of led me to move around to multiple different states and locations.

Me and my wife just moved out here to Southern West Virginia about two years ago.

I felt led to go to Appalachian Bible College to get a degree in Bible Theology, which I just graduated from this past Saturday with my associate's degree, and we've been out here since.

Looks like we're staying.

Southern West Virginia is a beautiful state, and we're looking forward to sticking around and seeing what God's gonna do.

I grew up in Nicholas County.

I got married, and my wife is from New York County.

So we've been here probably seven years.

Wow, very nice.

So tell us about God's Way Home.

So, God's Way Home is a long-term recovery home, sober living home for guys coming out of jail, out of prison, out of short-term treatment, wherever they might be coming from.

Those are the three main places that we get guys from.

We don't take anybody directly off the street.

The guys can come into our program and they have the first 30 days to just kind of take it easy and kind of get their feet under them, get them set up with DHHR, work on getting their birth certificate, their social security card, their ID, if they don't have those things.

They start looking for employment, Richard and another gentleman at Workforce, some Josh Ollison.

They do Bible studies with the guys pretty much every day.

Some days they miss out.

Guys are required to go to church and to meetings.

They have some AANA meetings, 12-step meetings for the guys to go to.

That's their first 30 days.

There's a level system as the guys move up in the program, they have more leniencies and more freedom.

After the first 30 days, they come off restriction.

They can get a cell phone.

They can become employed and start living their life again.

It's a long, long drawn out process.

Our program is one year.

We've had guys that have stayed longer than a year because they weren't ready to leave yet.

We help the guys with legal issues, get them to court and we provide transportation for them.

We have multiple facilities.

We have our main street location that has eight beds.

Then we have 11th Street location that has eight beds.

It's a house, a big two-story house.

We're actually working on creating at least six more beds in our back building behind our resource center.

And that's a day hanging drywall.

In total, we'll have 22 beds for long-term.

That's fantastic.

So Richard, I know you mentioned that you are in recovery.

Can you share a little bit about your recovery journey with us?

Yeah, so I grew up in a broken home of parents with a voice.

I was at a young age.

I was about 11.

With my life, I started experiencing a lot of anxiety and fear and just not fitting in.

I grew up in a trailer park and some older guys down at the park were using marijuana.

I thought that would have been cool and fit in, and I tried it.

The sensation, the feeling that I got from it, I liked it, the effect produced by it.

But not knowing that that one joint was going to turn into 14 years of just living chaos and destruction.

My dad got diagnosed with cancer when I was 12.

He was 40.

He ended up passing them when he was 42, and I was 14.

When he passed away, I didn't know what to do.

We went going to church.

God wasn't a part of my life.

I didn't know what else to do, and I turned to the streets and got hooked on the heavier drugs like opiates and crack cocaine and other things.

I just continued to spend my life like that all the way up to about 22 years old.

I kind of hit a point of brokenness.

I got introduced to heroin for the first time, and it really took me down to a bottom.

I ended up going to my first treatment center down in South Florida.

I just wasn't quite ready.

I thought I could drink successfully.

I thought drugs were my only problem.

I never really dealt with myself.

I got back out, went right back out on the streets doing the same thing for a few months, back into treatment again.

These 30-day programs down in Florida.

Eventually, I ended up moving to Florida.

I wanted to try to save a living, and that didn't quite work out.

Well, back in 2015, October 2015, I ended up in a rehab in Point St.

Lucie, Florida called Amethyst, and that's when my life changed.

I just hit a point of desperation.

I just had a bitter end where I had no sense of direction.

I was hopeless and broken.

I've had enough.

I've tried it all, and none of it worked.

And I finally accepted the fact that I was defeated.

I needed to get out of denial, and I needed to change my life.

And I started talking about God, and I was atheist.

I didn't believe in God.

And about three weeks in, we went to an Alcatel Hall, an anonymous meeting while I was still in the program, and the guy in there was sharing his testimony.

And he didn't just share his testimony.

He started talking about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and salvation, and that God can set us free and break that chain that we tried to break so many years and forgive us of all of our sins and wash us clean and just give us that peace and comfort and joy that we've been looking for our whole life in the wrong places.

And I wanted it.

He said, God can meet you in your mess no matter where you're at, no matter what you've done.

Any sin is forgivable, and he can break that chain, break that bondage of addiction, and I wanted it.

I had enough.

And that night, we were on our way back in the van, and I just, I closed my eyes, and I prayed for the first time, and I surrendered as Jesus entered my life, and he watched me clean that night.

I just changed, hit the ground, and had a smile from ear to ear.

I couldn't stop crying.

And it wasn't tears of pain and suffering, it was tears of freedom.

And I couldn't explain what I was going through, but I knew in the moment I was free, and I'd received Jesus as my Lord and Savior.

When I got out of treatment, I'm not saying that life was easy.

When I got out of treatment, I had to learn how to live, make decisions, think and all this other stuff.

And throughout the recovery process, going through the 12 steps and going to meetings and having a sponsor and helping all the people and sponsoring all the people, I started learning how to grow and be a better person and make right decisions.

I relapsed three times in the last, coming up on nine years, gotten away from the church, I got away from meetings, I got away from God, prayer, survival and all the things.

But about a little over three years ago, I just fully finally surrendered and said I've had enough.

I can no longer keep going back out.

And once I did that, God just blew the gates wide open.

I met my wife.

She's not in recovery herself, but we're getting ready to celebrate two years of marriage.

Come up here on May 27th.

I finally answered the call and to get in the ministry and go to Bible College.

God opened that door and we married out to West Virginia and I just graduated.

And then I knew I wanted to be in the recovery ministry helping people with addiction and alcoholism.

I just didn't quite know what that was going to look like.

And then God opened that door over here at God's Way Home and I started serving here.

This life of recovery and a life walking with Christ has been so much better than the life that I used to live.

And I would never trade it for anything.

Recovery is possible.

And I had spent so many years thinking that it wasn't.

That there was no hope, there was no way out, there was nothing.

So that one courageous bold man and an alcoholics, non of being in South Florida shared the gospel, shared the scriptures.

And it completely transformed and changed my life for the better.

And I went and traded for the world.

I'm blessed to have the opportunity to get to go out there and share that with other people and lead people to Christ and a better life and recovery.

Because there is, there is a better life, there is a better way.

Recovery is possible.

Yeah, I think it's important for individuals to know that.

Andrew, in your opinion, why do you feel that West Virginia has been so hard hit with the pandemic, with the opioid pandemic?

I think it's, that's multifaceted.

It's not just one thing or the other.

I mean, ultimately, what started the pandemic was home field, field meals, I would have, I guess, started in the early 2000s.

I'm 30, almost 35 years old.

I've been about two years, people that are two or three years younger.

They were, I mean, the guys that I heard, they would drive to Florida, ride a train to Florida, and come back up the East Coast, and they'd come back with literally hundreds of thousands of pills.

They would just go to these doctors and say, you know, my back's hurt or my legs hurt, and they would write them a prescription.

They would go to the local pharmacy, wherever they were.

They would get, you know, 100 pills here, and 100 pills there, and 100.

And we had four or five guys doing that, and they would come home literally with trunkfuls of pills.

And, you know, that was the start of it.

And, you know, now the pills have been done away with, and now methamphetamines, meth, and all the other drugs here, now even fentanyl is...

That's the drug of life around in our area.

Drugs are always just a symptom of a larger issue.

There's a lack of jobs.

And I won't say it's a lack of jobs, but a lack of quality jobs, jobs that you can live and raise a family on.

There aren't very many.

Housing, we're in a housing crisis.

All of West Virginia is in a housing crisis.

Where do you live?

Either you live in low-income housing, where the only people you have for neighbors are people that are using drugs and alcohol and live in pure turmoil, or it's so expensive that you can't afford it.

Or there are just are no...

There's a lack of things to do.

I mean, we live in Greenbrier County.

It's one of the larger counties in the state.

And other than a bowling alley that's only open certain days a week, there's nothing in Greenbrier County for young people to do.

I mean, they play sports, but not everybody plays sports.

And there's such a lack of...

It's a lack of everything.

It's not just one thing or the other.

It's a collective issue that our state...

Now, I don't know how you fix it.

Yeah, there's a lot.

We need more people like you.

That's how we fix it.

People that are willing to give, people that are willing to care for other people, whatever that looks like.

Right.

Now, in your opinion, how did the COVID pandemic affect West Virginia around opioids?

Do you think it was worsening?

Did it get better?

Oh, it was way worse.

He had, at that point in time in my life, I had only begun in, I mean, I was just getting started, really getting to where I was helping people on a regular basis in recovery.

And most of the people that I were helping, that I dealt with on a regular basis, they were still in that, some of them were still in that.

But when COVID happened, people that I did know that were sober, that were doing good, because all the meetings that everybody was having, I mean, somebody that's in recovery, their support system is their meetings, whether it's faith-based, whether it's their church family, whether it's an AA meeting or an NA meeting or celebrate recovery, whatever that is for them, all of that shut down.

So these folks that that recovery was their life and their meetings were their lifeline, they lost that.

And I mean, I know multiple people that had over 15 years of sobriety that overdosed and died during the pandemic.

That's terrible.

It is terrible.

And it's just that lack of connection.

As humans, we're meant to be together in unity and fellowship.

And when you separate that and isolate people, and you see that the mental health crisis, this increase in substance use, increase in depression, increase in like Andrew said, they take people away from the meetings and all those support groups.

I mean, granted you had Zoom meetings, but that's not the same as interaction face-to-face.

It caused a lot of issues in that area.

Yeah.

Do you feel that individuals still have a hard time accessing treatment, getting access to treatment?

I think at times, yes, because we have a resource center now, and I have learned to jump through every hoop there is to get people there.

I've learned how to manipulate the system.

I've learned who to call when I can't get through here.

I'll call here.

I have a three-page list of places I can call to get somebody help.

But somebody that's just on the street, and they come to the reservation that, hey, I need help, I think that there are still a lot of barriers to people accessing treatment.

Yes, even as much as we do.

I mean, Seneca Health Service, they have a mobile unit.

Robert Seabird Clinic, they have a mobile unit that they go out into the community and help.

A partner organization that we work with, Wellsprings and Rupert, they are, I mean, they advocate for recovery.

And as much as we advocate for it, I feel like people still, they can't see the clear avenue to get to find their way out.

They just can't see it from where they're at.

And I think there's, it's not that the treatment's not there, but it's them having that clear avenue.

It's like, where do I go when I finally want to get help?

And I think we're making a change.

Like we have our Resource Center here and we, you know, we hand out boxes of food and we, you know, we make the connections with the individuals in our community that need recovery.

And I believe that, you know, even though they haven't made that formal decision to go get help yet, I think that the few that we deal with locally, they know where to come to, but the vast majority outside of Rainelle, outside of, you know, our little close knit community, I think they're at a loss.

There's a lot of people who aren't being touched.

Do you think that there's stigma playing a role in individuals getting treatment?

Because we talk a lot about stigma reduction, but does stigma still prevent people from getting treatment?

It's, I don't know why.

You know, it doesn't, it doesn't, I've never been on drugs, so it's a tough thing for me to even speak about.

But it's like we've all known somebody that's on drugs, but in their mind, they have just so effectively hid every bit of the fact that they're on drugs.

And it's like everybody knows you're on drugs.

Everybody knows you use drugs.

But just to get somebody to say, hey, I'm an addict, I mean, it is, it is the hardest because it's the stigma.

They don't want to be labeled as a drug addict.

It's like, we know you're a drug addict.

It's like, it's okay.

We want to help you.

But that, coming to that conclusion to say I need help, I mean, I've had a guy, he was, we were taking him to treatment.

He works for us now.

And we stopped at a gas station.

And he was, I mean, he was a mess.

He had lit a cigarette and was smoking a cigarette.

And I guess he laid it down on the car or something.

And he lit another cigarette.

He had two cigarettes going.

I mean, he was, I mean, a hot mess.

But he was so, like, him coming to that moment of saying, like, acknowledging that he needed help, there's so much stigma around that.

Like, even though they know they're addicts, it's like they don't want to come out and just say it.

I don't know.

When you're an addict, an act of addiction, I mean, one is, in a sense, you can be in a denial phase, but also you feel a shame also.

You have so much shame.

You know, when I was in my addiction and out there on the streets, I felt so much shame and guilt, and I wanted to hide it so much.

I didn't, and of course I didn't want to admit it, that I really actually had a problem, that I was at an addiction issue, and it was a problem.

You know, it was hiding that and suppressing it, and I didn't want to be labeled that way, even though people looked at me that way.

It was a struggle.

Yeah, so once an individual comes into recovery at God's Way Home, how do you help them remain in recovery long term?

So here, we have a lot of accountability.

This program, it becomes one big family.

Everybody loves one another.

They help one another.

They hold each other accountable.

We also require them to go to so many meetings a week, plus the Bible studies that we have going on here, and then they go to church three times a week.

So it's accountability.

It's keeping them busy.

It's keeping them filled with God's Word and recovery in the 12 steps.

We encourage these men to get mentors and sponsors to help guide them and walk with them in recovery so they're not just doing it alone.

It's not meant to be done alone.

I know me personally having a sponsor, and I still do today, has been a huge help in my recovery to help hold me accountable and help me maintain long-term sobriety.

Some of the things that I think that help the guys, we help break down barriers.

There's so many barriers to people maintaining.

There's things with people that have never been on drugs, never been addicted to drugs.

We take things for granted.

Having a driver's license, having a vehicle, having a house, able to get auto insurance, just stupid stuff.

I mean, when you have been on drugs and lost your driver's license and you have 15 DUIs and God only knows what else, $10,000 worth of fines, it's hard to overcome those barriers and learning how to do that, get your fines set up on payment plans, and working through all those details and reducing those barriers.

That way, when they leave God's Way Home after the year or however long they need to get their life semi put back together, learning how to manage money is one of the major issues that we deal with with these guys.

Any time that any of them had 20 bucks, they knew what they were spending that $20 on and learning how to save money.

It's a fight.

Even the guys that have been here a year, they still struggle with just miniscule things that most people take for granted.

But learning to break down the barriers, not only that, but helping the guys find their purpose in their life.

When you know what your purpose is and you know what God put you on this planet for, it changes everything.

It's not just, well, I'm going to work to work every day to get a paycheck, pay bills, whatever.

When you live life with purpose, it changes your whole perspective.

It changes your outlook.

The big thing in AA and NA is the only way you can keep what you have is to give it away.

That's your sobriety.

We share, as Richard was talking, the unity among the brethren and just them finding their purpose within God's Way Home, them finding their purpose within the church, them finding their purpose within their community, their workplace, and becoming, you know, being needed is a huge issue, you know, to be wanted and to be needed.

And I think that's, you know, when you have your purpose in your life, that's a real field breaker, I feel like, for me.

If you leave out of God's Way Home and you still don't know what your purpose is, you're gonna struggle.

Yeah.

So, are there community resources that you also work with in the community?

Other than, you know, parole, EHHR, day report center, those are the main Seneca Health Services.

They're the mental and behavioral health providers in Greenboro County.

We work with Wellspring.

They do similar things that we do.

They do a lot more food related things.

Those are the main folks that we deal with.

I mean, we have the Greenboro County Care Coalition.

We're on that coalition, and we work with them pretty closely.

There's people that are part of that group that work with recovery, preventative, child care, food, you name it.

They come to the Family Rescue Center out of probably their women and use of relationships.

It's a team effort.

Oh, yes, definitely a team effort.

So how do individuals become involved with recovery and God's Way Home?

Like on a volunteer basis type thing, or is that what you're asking?

Well, so if someone is ready, and they want to get in touch with the facility, can they just call?

Do they have to be referred?

How does that work?

So, you know, a lot of folks call, and we just encourage them to get online and fill out.

We have an online application at godswayhome.org.

You can go there and hit apply now, and it sends, you know, you fill out the application right on the computer or on your phone, and it sends it to my email.

And we get the applications.

You know, if somebody's on the street, you know, trying to get help, we try to refer them to Detox somewhere.

We utilize Crosswinds Detox.

It's a Seneca RAN program in Lewisburg of Maxwellton.

And we also use Harmony Ridge a lot in Parkersburg.

It's actually in Walker, West Virginia.

They've been a huge asset to us in getting people into recovery.

They can put them through their Detox program and then keep them for 30 to 60 days, and then they can refer them back to us.

And we've done that with some of the guys.

Once the guys fill out an application, we always have a waiting list.

So we just receive the applications in order we get them.

And when a bed opens up, we go through those applications and start calling and doing phone interviews, and we'll do a phone interview.

Sometimes if the opportunity arises, we'll do a Zoom call and see the guys face to face and talk to them.

Usually it's just a phone interview, and we'll ask them questions, and they ask us questions.

And then depending on what they want out of their recovery and where they want to be, it's a collective decision process.

Clint and I, Clint Walker, he's our program director, usually set and talk to them and make a decision one way or the other.

And even if we decide they're not a fit for our program, we never just leave them hanging.

We try to point them in a good direction, give them some other resources as to...

There's a lot of people.

It's hard to commit to a year.

There's a lot of people coming out of prison.

You know, they want to come into recovery, but they're not ready to devote themselves a year to long-term recovery.

We encourage them to get ahold of Farmany Ridge, their shorter-term program, and just try to meet them wherever they're at and help them however we can.

That's fantastic.

I think that's so important, just meeting people where they are.

Are there any success stories you can share with us?

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, we just recently, we had two grads graduate.

Two guys ended up completing the program.

One of them is actually going to be, he's already moved out, correct?

Yeah, he's already moved out again and doing really well for himself and got a career going.

And the other fellow, he's still with us.

He's actually working on being a peer recovery support specialist.

He got his basic training now.

He's working on his hours so he can actually become certified.

And he's a big asset here.

He helps the guys and just sits with them and mentors them and just guides them and directs them.

So that was our two most recent.

One that really comes to mind is when I first started coming around over a year ago, we have a fellow named Russell.

He graduated about a month ago.

And I mean, the kids are just on fire for God and recovery.

When he first came in, I remember he was just broken.

And about a couple weeks in, he wanted to turn his life over to Christ and get baptized down in the creek.

And I remember when we were sitting in a meeting, I was facilitating a meeting, and he just showed it, sharing that story about his experience with God and baptism.

And he was just crying.

And it wasn't, again, it wasn't tears of pain.

It was tears of freedom and joy that he was actually able to be sober and have joy and have comfort and have peace in his life and be set free from the life that he was living.

And he continued on the program.

We took him through the 12 steps.

He completed the 12 steps, and he graduated here.

And while over the course of the past few months, he's been going around to different schools and sharing his testimony to middle and high schoolers and just sharing his experience, strength and hope with them and going to churches and sharing his testimony in front of churches and singing hymns in front of the congregation.

And he's got his own place now and has a girlfriend by his side.

And he's just doing really well for himself.

And we have another fella named Melvin.

He just turned 56.

First server birthday that he's had, and who knows how long.

You know, teenager, kid, maybe.

Over 30-something years.

Over 30-something years.

And he's, you know, it's the first time trying to get sober and doing this recovery thing.

And a couple months ago, he ended up turning his life over to Christ.

And one day back in February, we got the opportunity to baptize four of the guys here and four of the girls from another program that we helped with over in a creek here back in February.

And he was one of the four that got baptized.

And he's been doing really well.

His daughter went and talked to him, went and nothing to do with him.

And now she's come around and wants to be a part of his life and just started with phone calls and just text messages.

And then about a month or two ago, she reached out to him one day and said, hey, I'm about three minutes from your house.

I want to get together with you and hang out.

And he's starting to reestablish and build that relationship with his daughter.

And that's, I mean, that's huge.

I mean, he is, he's just so filled with gratitude because of that.

And then you get to watch these other guys that are still in the program and they just, they just grow and they overcome a lot of their character defects and they start learning how to work through them and how to deal with emotions and feelings and how to make decisions and, you know, get jobs and start learning how to be responsible and, you know, just help out around here.

And again, you know, we go around the churches to share testimonies and about our ministry and a handful of these guys will get up in front of church and tell them what God's been doing in their life and their recovery.

And it's a beautiful thing to see that, watch these guys just blossom.

And even when they fall down, they just, you know, they struggle, they get back up and they have a band of brothers around them to help them and sharpen them and encourage them to continue to push forward and continue to do the right thing and to do well in recovery.

That relapse does not have to be a part of your story.

Like it doesn't have to be.

You don't never have to go back to that lifestyle.

And the fact that also that a lot of these guys are actually seeing God work in their life.

Like they can't make it up.

It's just right in front of them.

And they experience it, they see it, they feel it.

And it's just, and their lives are just being transformed and changing.

It's just fantastic to hear those success stories.

And hopefully someone is out there hearing them and will decide, you know, it's time.

It's time to get help.

So, Andrew Bailes and Richard Green, thank you so much for coming on today.

It's been inspiring.

And I hope your message reaches many through this podcast and in other ways.

Thank you.

It's the opportunity for us to spread the message of hope, you know, like Richard said, earlier recovery is possible.

And the word needs to be spread.

I mean, awareness needs to be brought up a lot more.

I've been going to churches and different events and different things.

And a lot of the people within those walls are not even aware of what's really going on in their own backyard.

And just having this opportunity to be able to spread that awareness and let people know that there is hope, there is a better life and also like it's a serious thing.

It's real.

It's right in our back door.

It's right in our front yard.

It's right there.

And people need help.

People need help in this world.

The world desperately needs grace.

They need hope.

They need light.

They need a better life.

For us to be given this opportunity to be able to spread that, we're very thankful for that.

So we thank you.

Thank you, everyone.

And reach out to the website if you need help.

But thank you again for joining us.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for tuning in to Taking Healthcare by Storm, Industry Insights, with Quality Insights Medical Director Dr.

Jean Storm.

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