We interview Martin Royle about the vision behind his ecotour company Royle Safaris. We talk about how much work has gone into designing tours that actually see (rather than search for) Javan Rhinos and Siberian Tigers, plus the cascading conservation benefits that come from small scale ecotourism. And we hear about some of Martin's adventures along the way, including that time he thought a Tiger had eaten his friend.

Here is the YouTube trailer.

For more information visit www.mammalwatching.com/podcast

Notes: Martin has a heap of trip reports on mammalwatching.com, just search for "Royle", including a 2018 trip to Java, and 2017 in Sibera. If you want to read about - or donate to - the Trees for Tigers non-profit then click here. And here is something from the BBC about Spain's rogue Orcas.

Cover art: Siberian Tiger by Alexander Batalov.

Dr Charles Foley is a mammalwatcher and biologist who, together with his wife Lara, spent 30 years studying elephants in Tanzania. They now run the Tanzania Conservation Research Program at the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago.

Jon Hall set up mammalwatching.com in 2005. Genetically Welsh, spiritually Australian, currently in New York City. He has looked for mammals in over 100 countries.

Produced and edited by José G. Martínez-Fonseca mammalwatcher, photographer and wildlife biologist.