The MJ38 Show
Episode #34
Matthew and Justin talk about the Origins Of The 40-Hour Work Week, Cooking Shows, and Going To Mars
And all blends together, all, you know, blends together. People will be like, think I'm not a competent person because I don't know what day of the week it is. I was in it. I remember being like, you know, enjoy your weekend to a table. And it was like Tuesday. And they were like, This guy's an idiot. Like, it was such a I'd be a little drunk. Yeah, right. It wasn't like, funny to them at all, you know what I'm saying? But. Ah, being on the service industry schedule definitely throws off your what you consider to be a weekend and the Saturday. Yeah. Saturdays or we're working, man. We're working, man, because everybody's out. Everybody's off. So strange. Is. The normality of a 9 to 5. And how many people have Saturdays off and just like the energy behind a Saturday. Yeah. Sometimes I forget if I have a Saturday off for whatever reason and I'm going doing whatever I got I fucking people out here. Jesus. Go home and do stuff. Yeah. If you get a that's a little bit. Like a bargain like not angry but yeah. It's was like kind of so many people. Yeah. It's because then you feel it whenever there's, like a parking spot. So it takes forever the drive through or whatever the ramification is for having so much like population or like a too much demand. It's like, my gosh, it's so much demand. Now everyone's out. Or whenever you go to a restaurant, it's like, my gosh, a 45 minute wait hour and a half wait, Yeah, go home, people. Yeah, I watch on T.V.. Yeah, well, he won't let me, man. Especially because there's just, like, it's hard for me not to be like, man, I surf like, a billion people all the time, every day. You're my focus. You make me wait 45 minutes. I should be royalty here. Well. I could. I could grow up in the back of the house and be right at home. Yeah, but that's. That's a hard sentiment. Figure out a way to wrap that. Yeah. Thanks. That's right. In the heart of the house. Yeah, but that's just how we are. Because we treat everyone. Anybody else from a service industry super well, right there is that kind of code. Or like, you want to show some, you know, something. Something life form? Yeah, we. It's a shared adversity or whatever it is. We're, we're able to identify with that. Yeah. The commonality. Yeah. You know, if on a Tuesday is nice. yeah. Yeah. yeah. Being off in the middle of the week when everything she going on, everything's open and like the lines are minimal, it's like, yeah, I can do anything. It's nice, bro. I think about it too, because it just feels weird sometimes. It hits me, like you said, where the rest of the world is doing this today. Like I'm doing this today. And like, we're just not on that regular medical tour schedule of, like, our Monday. And then thank God it's Friday. And then Hump Day was on Wednesday just thinking about all the cultural hits. But then you get to Saturday and it's like, This is my free day. And then on Sunday everybody's like resting up to go back for the week. So. Yeah. Getting charged up. Yeah. For the next five days. So yeah, whenever I'm. Sure like that. That's like what's going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess. When, when did that start. When did. Cause back and I don't know, let's say a hundred years ago. Yeah. 150 years ago in the 1800s in before then. We're just working all the time. While the sun was probably I probably thought Right. Yeah. And then if you were. Always working every day, all day, except for whatever, Sundays or Saturdays or whatever, trying to keep the holy day holy, you fall in that tradition. But besides that, we're working all the time. Is when did the formal 9 to 5 get established, like in the industrial age of like the Rockefellers and shit? Probably really America like. Yeah. Thomas Shelby Times. They had people. That. Hundreds. Yeah. There was regulations and stuff like that. They had like. Yeah. I think that shows that like 1904 or something like. That and trying to create a 40 hour work week. Yeah. When did that get established. I mean look it up. Yeah. I was, I thought I said I don't know where it is. I got you. It's gone. He's swimming. Somewhere in the world and. The ocean. Is in the. Ocean. Yeah. Yeah. But. But the thing that. The thing that hits me crazy, though, is the fucking dude, like, so my whole career, and I'm like, because I'll be out there on a Tuesday doing my whole day and there's, like, nobody anywhere. Like, I just got last Tuesday and I was like, okay, I need to go stop at a, a place to get some tax information. I want to look for some new work shirts and I'm gonna get some coffee and then go to the grocery store. It's like a lot to do. And I was like, getting it all done, and there's just, like, it's nobody's super easy. It's just like, yeah. Like, it's just another way that you just kind of get hit with the fact that, like, we're on the shadow schedule of the schedule. Yeah. And it's just been normal or whatever. Right. And then I kind of want to complain about it or like, there's a part of my brain that's like, that sucks. And then I'm like, Well, the crazy thing is, like, I'm paid a premium to work against the schedule of the that, that's like part of what I'm, I just, I am there to serve them when they have time to spend, which means I don't have time to spend while they have time to spend. And then like, they're typically like tipping people extra on top of what they pay for being available and serving them while like they're able to consume it. So like, it only exists in the shadow. Yeah, you. Know what I'm saying? You know, industry is like that, which is kind of fucked. I think that's why we fuck with each other so much too, because it's like shared adversity, but it's also this whole thing, you know what I'm saying? It is a whole culture, a whole world. And it's crazy, too, because I was thinking about. I'm not sure why. Maybe that's partially why I'm, like, subconsciously attracted to cooking shows, like that kind of stuff. And Victoria is as well, so it's like, super tight. So like always watching cooking shows and shit. But cooking is inextricably tied to the service or like, I guess to restaurants. Restaurants are built around the kitchen, like, what the fuck are you going to do? We're not. I guess part of the serving job is like the social interaction and like the mingling and making people feel at ease and warm and like they're welcome to ask for stuff and you're going to, like, make it happen. But they came to there to eat, you know? So like, every restaurant is built around like the the kitchen and like watching these cooking shows. And it's crazy because we're watching a we stumbled upon a cooking show and HBO Tournament of Champions is what it's called. And Guy Fieri is the host, but it has just like a whole bunch of bad ass chefs on it. And it's like a bracket more or less, and just like a blind tasting, completely blind tasting and just a bracket. And whoever wins, wins. Simple super like. March Madness for. Chefs. Yeah, that's, that's, that's I guess is. Crazy, too, because it's like, it's like a crossover moment in my life as well. Or it's like an echo moment in my life where we started because as I mentioned, big, big time in the in the cooking shows, watching all the Gordon Ramsay stuff like Hell's Kitchen and Next Level Chef. And then I think Hulu added Chopped or a season or a couple of seasons of Chopped. So I was like, I fucking watch Chopped. We watch a couple episodes of Chopped for the last couple of weeks, maybe a month or two. And then we stumble upon this show on HBO and then it's like we're watching the first season, first episode, and all the chefs are being kind of introduced. It's like a 16. Yeah, it's eight on each side, 16 total chefs, and there's bad ass. And like most of them are like, I like, I guess in Chopped, there's a three panel of judges who judge the food. And that three panel of judges gets like changed out throughout the seasons and throughout the episodes and whatnot. Okay, I'm with you. And there is at least like five or six of the job. Judges are like, we're like competing on this show. And I was like. This is fucking tight. That's super. Tight. Yeah. Because like, as in months or maybe a month or two ago, we were watching Chopped. Early on, we made the comment of like, it'd be cool to watch the judges. You know, they're always giving the critiques. It's like you do a. Motherfucker that's. So crazy. And then it was watching the stumble into the show and like, my God, they're all here. Like, pretty much all of them. This is tight. This show's about us. That is so, you. Know, super, super cool. Kind of a it's like, boop, boop, boop. You know, I'm saying, like, the synchrony or not synchronistic. But yeah, not even just how close they wrote the show, but like that. You were just watching like one show at a time. Kind of randomly like the Dutch just connected for you like that. So it can go wrong. Yeah, but I think partially why I love those cooking shows so much is also I like it. We're like subconsciously in the service industry. How that came about within our stories. Just like, I don't know, it's weird. No, I feel you. I respect the chef, like, a lot. Just like, super naturally because it feels like the other person at the top. Of. The responsibility pyramid of producing said food. And I saying like a lot of pressure because the entire business is around, like you said, like we can't. The came here to eat good. Food Yeah. If all the food came out completely wrong and tasted terrible and didn't look pretty, our jobs would be terrible. It'll be a terrible, terrible job for us because the food sets the tone or like, it's both, You know what I'm saying? That's why. It's a combination. That reminds me of, like, just. It's not like this, but it reminds me of it when I'm at work of, like, the same kind of relationship between skill position players and, like, the lineman on the football team, because there's like, a little bit like the linemen have like a, like a different brotherhood. Like they're like super bonded and super tight. And then most of the time they think that the skill position people like are more or less don't understand, like what they do at all. And what they do is what makes this whole thing work. And it sucks way worse than like just running routes. Like you ran like 50 routes. That's what she did. Like I hit the pace 200 times. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. We ran for 212 yards today and that was 31 plays and my face. Hurts like. It compared to like a wide receiver who scored two touchdowns maybe and like, you know, be on TV later. Big difference. Yeah super. Difference. The game within the game. Yeah right like. Quidditch. And that's a relationship that you have to manage as a team because you don't want like people not fucking with each other more or less are like. Yeah, respecting each other's roles. Yeah. The respect thing is the gel you need to have like synergy and you need that energy to be kind of like bonded together more or less. But if you have like places where it's off because the respect isn't quite there or like someone's, you know, and I'm missing my football. But I think you can think about that at any workplace and yeah, similar. Rowena every branch does its part has this role to play. It's job to do. Yeah. That's what it isn't that would Belichick's about this do your job. Yeah do your job. That's really what that's it. man it is like that. It's super true bro. Yeah yeah I realize that the the just do your job aspect and like that's the idea of that that's like a a primordial or like a human beyond language like first language you know there's like because I guess it's like in the tangible, like our tangible because I remember we realized this kind of came about with myself whenever I started at the other spot and a lot of the back of the house were Spanish speaking, only more or less. But I realized that I was able to jive with them and meld and gel with them easily because I know a little bit of Spanish at the time. I knew a little bit, or at least some a lot more now still been going on that shit. But I remember this like feeling because I guess whenever you meet a new person at work, at the workplace, any of the new employees you're running into, you're going to have to like figure each other out, you know, or like to try to figure out how to work into this social setting because you're like the outsider. And they're like kind of taking you in and like, you're figuring out how to get in, you know, what life is like, jump in and be like myself. I'm the new guy. How you doing? I'm doing good. I'm doing new things. You don't need to be doing that. You also don't want to be super, like, reserved and maybe cold or perceived to be cold, you know, social. Yeah. So it's it's a mix of mix of that. Somewhere in the middle of those two. Yeah. Well said. Yeah that was pretty great I feel like. But I say all that to say whenever you're meeting anybody in the new social workplace. I remember meeting those guys back at the house and Spanish speaking only, but we gelled really easily, you know. And I was like, because there was a mutual respect thing about working hard and just doing your job, Just doing your job and like, they go hard. They do their job really well. And then he goes, Aren't these job really well? And then it's just mutual respect based on that. Bang, bang, bang. Yeah. Across the spectrum. The hard work ethic or the language of. Yeah, I forgot what the code is, but like, hard works, like a language that transcends language or whatever the fuck. You don't have to know English and don't have to know Spanish. But like, if you know when someone works hard and that has its own language, like if you're, if you're a hard worker, then there's things that you know, were like, you know, to check the thing behind the thing. And then you see someone else doing that. You're like, fuck. They go hard. Like they're doing it for real, you know, like there's nuances to all of our job. And then when you see someone like hitting a high level nuance with what they're doing, you're like, okay, like respect having the basketball to if you just like. That's the third play of the game. The quietest dude on the court, just fucking jacks on someone. Like two handed right on the rim. You're like, my gosh, like that. You now respect him a little more than. You did three plays ago. You treat it differently. He's a hoop. You got to worry about that guy now. Like, it just is like, that's the thing is it's almost primordial. Like, it's not like, okay, I'm going to choose to think differently about this person. It's like you just you you're like, I have to respect that. You know those. And yeah. Or at least have to pay attention to that. Yeah. What has happened there? Yeah. Because there's like a crazy if we're really playing the game then there's like a similar we're all operating on similar game theory, which means like we similarly probably give importance to like these things are those things. And then you just see someone like for instance, showing up early all the time, like it's just a trait where you're like, that person probably goes harder for. It's like, imagine someone being like always the first one in the locker room on any football team or any basketball team. Like it's like that guy. It doesn't necessarily mean he's cold. It doesn't necessarily mean that that's a good person, but like it does show it does trend towards that. That person might be someone who he might be going hard as fuck if he's really that dedicated, really that committed. Yeah. That level of commitment. Right. Is in line with an ideal trait or, you know, ideal traits, ideal behavior. Because how else can you manifest commitment and discipline? It's a hard thing to outwardly express what your inward level of commitment is, but when you get an opportunity to flash that, if you want to like at the gym, when I'm playing open gym and stuff like that, I've noticed this crazy thing, bro, where you have to, if I want to get picked up early and not have to sit three or four games, I got to like get out there. I got that people up. Then I got to like, shoot a lot of shots, look super athletic for a second so that hopefully I could get like drafted. Little mini car. By. It's like in my head it's so crazy because, you know, I've played basketball there probably 18 to 20 times over the last two years for sure. And like I usually like to just go in there and just like quietly find out who's next and then just be like, okay, I'm going to run with you if that's cool. And then I'm going to go over there like warm up super slowly and then kind of let the game like be when I actually start like running around and start going crazy. Like I want to warm up into it like that, just like shoot threes on my shooter shirt on, you know. Steph Threes not really thinking too much of in little dances but trying to be loose. But no, the last time, the last two times I went out there I'm like. Doing this So it's a piece it's throwing the ball up the glass. I mean, just let me just see. How I can rebound right here. You know, come out there and get hit some in rhythm. Like, let me show my hazy, hazy. Pull up. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. now they know hooping. Yeah. Then it's super way more likely that either someone'll ask me if I want to play with them or if I ask the person that has the last. Sometimes they have five. But if I'm asking them after I've done all that, they've definitely got room for me. It it's crazy, but. Doors open up. Yeah, but it just made me at first I wanted to be like, I don't know, because the first time it happened, so two times ago I was just kind of angry and I just got out there and I was like, I'm going after Red Room. But it was. Like sort of warming up aggressively. Let me just. yeah, two hands. Okay. I feel good. I'm a bird skin. The thing I would do and that is would just. Go. And picked up really quick. And then I was like, man, that's crazy. Okay, well, let me just I. It's. Coming kind of hot next time and then. Yeah, easy to get on a team. I was only like two games out instead of four games. That's a. Great social science experiment. Right? Hilarious. I love it. I would kill just to. Actually film it. no. I was like, That reminds me of I think in college it was a I forget what class it was, but there was a requirement to do some sort of social experiment. I forget what class it was. I remember some of my some of our friends had taken it and they were telling me about it or either way that I'd heard about it. But there was an assignment of doing a social experiment and some people would stand the opposite way in an elevator or some people would like sit next to. Some are like purpose, purposefully cynical somebody when there's a lot of space and stuff like that. And we would like record the results because that's a great one too. Or you know, yeah, because it's something going on there. before we get going on, we're in quick, quick break because I realize the lights are not the way the lights. we're going to my real quick. We'll be right back. And we're back. With the talk about social experiments and stuff. But yeah, that turn lights on realize that we're talking like good like 30 to 45 left. I was like, okay, let's play moral, please. Thank goodness. Let's catch. It's weird because it's the morning so the lights are feel extra Come on Come on in the morning upon. Yes but we're talking about talking about Ben are you picking up or getting picked up a basketball after a solid combine showing. Yes. Because I realized it also that thing and then presenting itself at work for me, like maybe like, I don't know, since I started at Blue, pretty much where I just realized that, like, if you don't like, it's if I don't, you don't do some kind of combat. Like, okay, that's not the thought. The thought that came to me was the respect thing is like, you can't help but give or take respect for someone or like, take it away from them based on what you see in gear. Based? Yeah, like the tangible life game that we're all playing here. Because I work in basketball, it's like obviously tangible and you could. Yeah, that goes in the hoop or it doesn't go in the hoop and you either got the nuances and you do or you don't have the nuances or whatever your basketball IQ, all of that. But life is the same. Or just like the tangible work environment, like your job, whatever your job is 100% restaurant. We're doing this thing like my job is to do this. I run the food or I'm like, I'm like the assistant assistant. I help and I play bass and I take the shit away. And I'm whenever there are jobs, whatever the responsibilities are. Yeah. Like how they uphold the is tangible. Yes, it is. Yeah. And there's an ideal and there's like in basketball it's easier because you're going to like keep score, but you could like keep score and restaurant to you could say this is how many dollars we want to have, how far closer where we from it. And our performance affects that more or less. Yeah, there there's some restaurants that record how many trays you. That's Kobe numbers on the board. Yeah well everybody trades like in. Back when I was running trays when I fell on the servers, I was running trays dog. Yeah. Roll all the trays. That was one of those things. It was just easy to run. If I hated it the whole time and was only going to run ten, it was just easier to hate it, run dirty. I was like, I'm going to go up the this outside of this table, my ass, you know? So. You know, being able to flip the script like that, super important. They put it on its head. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That presented to me last night. The server was like, I don't know about this problem at my table. I was like, You just put it on his head. You go talk to them directly about it. Like you say something like this, you address this? Yeah. Say something along these lines. Usually game usually just given the dialog and off they go. I did that a lot last night. Yeah. That was like all. This is about this asking if this is going to happen and the response will tell you what to do. Yeah, it was tied to because like early on I was like, words are powerful. Like if you phrase something this way, you're going to get these kind of responses from them. If you phrase it, this way also, now you've been taking blame and and you're like unsure about yourself just because of the words that you use to express the same thing you're trying to do here. And so, like, just make sure you're using the right words when you're like asking for things or when you're like scheduling something or even just like asking for a raise. Like there's a difference in saying. Give me more money. Yeah, that's a lot more money now. I deserve it. Give me more money. That's like that's one way to put it. Run it. Yeah. I've seen other jobs, and B, there's nothing that's. Willing to pay. For pay. No, but just in stating, like, I wondered, I'm wondering what it would take for me to get a raise that implies that, like, you're okay with a timeframe, you're like, I'm wondering what I need to do here to get a raise. Or if you say, I think that I'm ready for a raise, but I wanted to know what you think about that like as well. Or another way to put it is like, Yeah, I'd like a raise. That's the that's the phrase you can say. Like, when do you think I deserve a raise? Or you can say I like a raise. And I think that like the phraseology of I like a raise. If you're the other person and they're due for a raise and someone says, I'd like a raise, it's hard not to be like, fuck their do that, we'll give it to you. But if someone's like, What do I need to do here to get a raise? It's easier for you to be like, Show me this, this and this, and then we'll talk about it. Raise Because now the problem's dealt with and you don't have to pay money out like that. But it's just in the phraseology of like just saying like, I'd like one. I think I'm ready for it if they're going to press you on. Like, if there's, like, hesitancy, like, I think I'm ready for it. I have certainty. I'm pretty confident I'm worth it. I'm at that level. I know I am. And if it's cool with you, I like to just like, you know, make that jump. That right there is now. It's so much more powerful than. Well, okay, well, what do I need to do here? I think I'm there, but, like, what do you want to see? Like, that's a good I mean, it's honest. You're being humble, but, like, I just think the other options more dynamic. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Yeah. Ah, I think you need to be willing to, I guess, to do the work on the back end or guess unless you know. Well by the way they doing the work is like the inevitable, you know, I'm saying yeah. Just like if you do was like I've been doing the work and no matter what, like whatever stipulations you're going to put in front of me, I'm going to do those regardless as well as like doing or upholding my responsibility at a high level is what I like. Just kind of do something and keep doing that. And because I've been doing that, I think I deserve a raise. And if even if you don't give it to me right now, then I'll I'm now on the track for sure to get it right. Yeah. Yeah. I think we both have been. That's the way to go about it. I agree with you. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but I think. Yeah, I think yeah. You're definitely headed in a truth with the energy behind your phraseology and that also like the truth that whenever you give someone dialog, there's only so many things they could respond with or there's only so many things that could logically happen in the story as far as like storytelling goes, because things could be completely spontaneous and random. Sometimes you have. To have nothing yet out of nowhere, it's like we're having this dialog and then this happens or like they mentioned this or this, this, that populates. But for the most part, like whenever your spiel on a menu or talking to guests at a restaurant, there's only so many things are going to have questions about about the menu. There's only so many things you're going to ask about, about the wine or whatever, right? So many things. So many things you write. And like your dialog is super important because it helps. It opens the doors, I guess that it opens the the potential, your use of whatever you say opens up the potential responses in the grace manifest. This holds everything, you know, saying, yeah the whole situation. That could that this genius like for context like I feel like like if you ask someone do you have any questions about the drink menu or if you ask someone do you want to hear about the most popular drinks that we've been selling so far, the ones that are doing the best? And then like the information that you then have to provide is obviously different. You know what I'm saying? Way different. Super different. And then once I get them on, like that's, that's the question that they're asking anyways. Like then unless they have a specific question about a specific drink, I kind of like can just like expedite that process with like I'm gonna tell you about these ones, these are these ones, this, this, this and this. And then from that point, like the what's happening there, their lack of information, their their wanting of context, their need for direction has then been met in a way that's like in our favor, Like we're up from that conversation rather than being on our heels and having to, like, get burned downfield. By the wide receiver because. You don't know the answer to a question that you can that you help them propagate. Well, you know what I'm saying? It's like. But like we could just play to our advantage if they let us. Sometimes they don't let us, you know what I'm saying? But the percentages play out. That's one thing I realize working years in a row at a restaurant is like the questions are similar over time. Not any given day to day. I can't be like this table. I mean, sometimes you can read a table, be like first time table super noobs. They're definitely going to produce X, Y, Z. And like nine. I'm just like, That's obviously a gross fuckin stereotype. I don't think that about people, but just over time, if I think about the stats like and you could recommend Bella Gossage like a billion times in a row and it hits like if as long as you know, when you're playing that card and you play it to the percentages, you hit like 99% of the time. And there's other things that just like same questions see all the time. If you learn how to tell the difference between this and this, because steak eaters get to this point and the decision tree and you have a really good this. Yeah yeah good on that move yeah like. It's over time it gets so it's crazy how many times you'll get better at saying the same thing because you say it 100 times over a year. 100 times. Well yeah, it's 20 different variations. Yeah. He was thrown into it and changed it up a little bit. You get it like past tense and then present. And sometimes you're talking about it from this angle, but it's still like the thing you're talking about from it. You know. If you look in steakhouses long enough, they're using the same state questions at every steakhouse you work at. Of course. Can you explain what agent rage like can or is like what? What cuts the most tender? Let me tell you about tender good steak. You get to be a genius in that movie. And you know, you talking about. You know what I'm saying? You get mad, David. How do you like them apples? Yeah, the hunting is real. Yeah, it's. Hilarious. But yeah, it's all information based. All information based. And you can help guide your information or help guide the information in the story. Yeah. The entire situation. What's what's happening at that table. Like, just based on your dialog. it's crazy because yeah, you mentioned that, you know, you're able to, like, dish out shit real quick, you know, saying and I've been empathizing with that feeling. And it's funny because I saw it manifest and play out in a cooking show in Next Level Chef with Gordon Ramsay, because it's three chefs or it's Gordon Nyesha Arrington and Richard Glaze, and all three of them are like the mentors and like they all have teams and there's like four or five on each team to get started. But then there's three different levels to the kitchen and throughout the competition that is competing and doing different like specified challenges for each week. And there was a Gordon was just doing his thing last week and like they were just because each chef is like mentoring them and like kind of helping their team, it is ultimately like unbiased as far as who wins to a degree, you know, like all of them are just competing and whoever the like. If one team has three of their teammates or three of their team members in the finale, then like, this is like it is what it is like the the eliminations are blind tasted. So regardless so like but they do mentor their team like as the weeks go on so like they're kind of getting coached up by whoever their head captains or whatever their team leader. So Gordon, his team, he's just going off and he like it just is like I seen him in like the last couple of minutes of the challenge and he goes, there's like four chefs or five chefs on his team. And it just like a scene of him going from like each chef to like in their final minutes. And he's like, Taste someone's boss. He's going to taste that pasta because you can't, like, tell him exactly what to do or, you know, I'm saying you can't, like, cook a dish for him, but he's just like giving them advice and trying to point them in the right direction is like, taste that pasta. And he's like, my God, Yeah. That that passes almost inedible. He's like, All right, thank you, Chef. Cooks it up more. And then he's like, This goes on to I forget who else he goes on to, but there's like two or three of them. And then there's like another one. This chick has, like a thing. It's called a duck egg. It's like a black egg. Essentially. Egg is what Gordon Ramsay refers to it as. But she's like, I'm trying to figure out how to how to use this and incorporate this duck. And then he's like, Get your knife really hot, cut it in half, cut it in quarters and put that quarter on top of the garnish. And he's like, that's what she wanted to do. Yes. She's like, Yes, chef. This is like, boop. It's just like seamless. Like he just knows how to handle, like and at all points in throughout their cooking experience, he's able to just like, kind of know and they're all cooking different shit, all different ingredients. But he's able to just know enough about the meat of cooking in general to, like, address every potential issue that they have, a question they could have about cooking, whatever it is they're cooking. And he just handles it all. He's like, bam, bam, bam, bam. I was like. my God, he's nesting. Screw fucking nasty. man, Dude, that's awesome. He's like a master craftsman. Yeah, I'm saying that's what it looks like. Yeah, he's a mess. It's crazy. Yeah, I was. I was just knowing the answers to knowing the information. He has all the information? Yeah, as much as any shuffle item saw that go Fuck is going in, bro. He's been going in for decades now. Yeah, he's correct. He's great. He's, he's it cracked. But it was. Like my mom's favorite chef, like. Right. 15 years ago, you know, at least ten years ago. It's crazy. Yeah, I think I'm referring to your mom watching Hell's Kitchen. Yeah, for sure. I remember. Seeing that. I like the red and the blue, like the chef coats and stuff. I remember like seeing that in my mind's eye as a child. Like in your house, like, at least once or twice, For sure. For sure. You know? Yeah, definitely what that. Says. Yeah. Like 20 years old, for sure. Super D That's a fun show to watch while you're cooking dinner because you're like, Fuck, I can't lose and get kicked off tonight. Bro. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And that's another thing I kind of realized, and I was thinking about, like, why I like cooking shows so much over the, like, I guess probably the last day or two. But that's going to be true about it. And just like I think cooking shows adult because it's like, it's like a creative art or a creative expression art form and there's like taking the raw ingredients of life and creating masterpieces. You know, it's like art is art for sure. It's definitely an art and it's a creative expression. It's like music, like any creative expression to a degree. But cooking's tight because it tastes good or doesn't taste good, or it's cooked or it's not cooked. You know, it's like there's no debate. It's like with rap. There's a lot of debate over art, abstract. And I guess we can debate about Grammys and Emmys and nominated awards and such. But still, it's like there's always the debate in the abstract whenever you're talking about is merit equality of abstract creative art. But food is like pretty tangible. Like I said, you taste good. You don't know it's fucking raw. Like. You can't tell me this is cooked. Yeah, it's like, I love that aspect of it. And then also it's also because it's so relatable, at least in the sense that everyone, not everyone's a chef, but everyone's a cook. Everyone has to prepare food for themselves in some capacity. You have to make cereal, you got to make sandwiches. You gotta fucking do something to keep your human alive. We're all tasked with that, so we all have to do it. And this is my focus. Just take that to the nth degree. It's like rappers. It's like not everyone's like, we all use words. Like we all think and use words, but it's not the same. A little different to true. Yeah. What it's what do you, what, how do you get to that place. You know what I'm saying? Katt Williams says we should just be blessed and grateful. We use words to make crazy amounts of money. Like everybody talk show, but like, not everybody gets by. Everybody talk. Show. Exactly. Exactly. And that hit me. I was like, fuck. Like, I do want to use my words to make money. And I was like, I do use my words to make money go. Got God. So I was like, okay, I'm already on that track, you know what I'm saying? I'm already practicing that shit. Like it's just and it's not like it's not worth the money. Like, we love rappers, you know what I'm saying? Like, great service is awesome, You know what I'm saying? Like, we appreciate it. So being good at that thing, whatever it is, or even, like you said, cooking like so good, so knowledgeable about not like cooking necessarily, but cooking the dish. But just like cooking is like a whole fucking meta subject, you know? I'm saying like, if you can get to that point where you, like, transcend what a general person's experience of that thing would be, you can just like walk in and fix a form and suddenly you can know what they're thinking. It's like what. You know, what, what tool to use and how to use it to get it to get the job done, to get this bridge built. Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is, if you can do that, well, you get paid like a lot of money, like Gordon Ramsay's making a lot of money, you know, because he knows how to cook. Them off of make a lot. Of money. He knows how to cook, and he's on 30 different shows. He has a crazy amount of shows and he's doing them all the time, all the time. So that the other part of making the wealth is like knowing the craft super well, but also being able to dominate the industry like so Drake's doing too, obviously. Helps and he has, you know, he's doing so many shows and he's been cooking for so long and he has so many restaurants. yes, he's doing a restaurant style. He's the he's deep. He's fucking got it wrong. Always got it. He's one of my goats. It was like, that man's doing it. And this industry and his field of study and his domain and his arena, he's a fucking he's ham dog. He's fucking the Grady Road for real. He's crazy. And then I also empathize and like, fuck with him heavy because he records it all or using he like, not like a documentary style of his life. But he's so many shows. So, so many shows. It's like, content. Content is a concept machine, bro. Yeah. Stewart And everyone loves Never Stop Gordon Ramsay clip. It's like Tiger Woods effect. You're like, you're just like, Gordon Ramsay, Let me see it. Let me check this out. You know, I'm saying like, he's just one of those people that it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. He's crap. He's a craftsman. Yeah. So. Yeah. Cooking. Go. Go do that. Yeah for sure. Cooking shows on time. I fucking know. That's a cool thing to be into because it's like people just be watching TV and I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, it's exciting because Victoria likes it a lot as well. So like, that's time I remember watching Chopped like a long time ago. I was a kid, maybe like kid, like teenager, probably. I was like, man, this just time. This is a good passing of time. Whenever there's nothing else to watch or like whenever there's a passing of time you have to do as a kid. There's like a hierarchy of shows to watch whenever whatever they're available, whenever that was the thing we had to deal with in life. You had to wait for shows to come on at a certain time. There was no really instant streaming and like TiVo was kind of new, like recording and DVR and shit. Yeah, that like, slowly integrated into it. But whenever you were a kid, you have like regular cable or whatever.
It's like, Yeah, whatever's on at 6:00, it's like flow, like your usual channels, the ESPN. Nick The cartoon channels. TV Yes. Fox We had the. TNT go to channel through a. TV guide. You're like watching all 100 channels. Okay, That's on that. That's on that. That's on there. No family guy from the down. Yeah. Twins. Yeah. Yeah. I'll even have. To see any more. We've seen enough chopped with chopped. We win sometimes. I mean like this is, this is a this is a good show. It wins for. Sure. I'll watch it again. Nice. Those young, you know. You know, I love watching cooking shows. Yeah. Hell's Kitchen, is it? Yeah. And it also hits, especially because you're living in the. The shadow of the service industry. Yeah. So that's your life almost. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's like, if we were 49 years, it'd be watching a show about gold. You know, It's like, this is why we're here. Is this thing right here. This is what we're doing. Watch it. Had it had a swing, a pig ax. This is what it's about, boys. It's those, you know, the 40 hour week. We come back to that. Back to the initial thought. Let's see. You've plenty. Yeah. The thing that we're in the shadow of that thing came to be in 1938. Congress passed. 38. Squat and all that out of the house. 138 sorry, but yes. 44 hours was the original work week. I guess they had you going 90 day out early on Friday. I don't know what that is. Congress amended the Fair Labor standards are limiting to 40 hours in 1940. So 44 hours. Yeah, well, 9 hours a day and elderly on Fridays. That's how I've assigned those hours. I don't know what they were doing. And then in 1940, it was 40. Who who decided the workweek was five days? Henry Ford in 1926, under the leadership, Henry Ford instituted an eight hour day, five day workweek. Then in the Great Depression. Owing to unemployment, the idea for a six hour workweek came for a while, but it says that they were probably working like a lot. And then, I guess Henry Ford, if he introduced in 1926, that was probably the best model for people at labor unions to be like, well. Why can't we ever like them? They're like, You can't you. Can't have like them. And then, yeah, that was probably the model for a long time after that. It's almost been 100 years. It's been like 84 years. Yeah, because back in the Viking days, I'm like, early bird gets the worm if you can get up like, well, it's light, but the sun's not up. Start working those fields and stuff, you know, they call it working. I mean, could you imagine being a Viking? And I'm like. I think we should take more days off, kill him, like, just give me a movie. Okay? Okay. We'll get more work done in the long run, guys. Okay? Hear me out. Think about this. You guys are hurt. His knee is destroyed. You guys can't walk right now. I know this. Is a little more rest. Like we just be friends, bro. Like, let's hang out, bro. We go. They are broke. All five are. Difficult, bitch. Because, yeah, I think. You know. It's just farmers. Back in the day, we're going to say sorry. Even if if a powerful leader was like always said, the idea was like, if we stop working, we're going to die. You know? Yeah, we you with. Your kids and everyone we know. You know, if we don't. Work very hard. All the time and I gets a fair. Argument, you know what I'm saying? It's still today. It's like, so yeah. So you want to even with yourself, you're like, kind of, I think the. Day off you'll die. You die? Yeah. You know, I was just going to say, like, the good farmers, for example, back in the day, you kind of had to or so we got enough. I can tend to like, feel today. It's like, Go. Eat, bro. We need to have a buffet table. Yeah, yeah. Not ever fucking. Lobbied for more hours in the day. They're like, We need more time there. Not enough time. Let's see what time. Give me an extra hour. Dude, what a genius farmer was just like, Hear me out. We can't move the sun, but we can move the US. Which is this? Imagine moving your watch back. You know. It's a bikini bottom, and we put you. Yeah, This is great. Yeah, I like to think it though, but come on, girls, do it. Yeah, we still do with this very. Fuck time it was. Move that bitch back and our girl. You know, we're. Still feeling the ramifications of that to this. Day. You lugbe last week, couple. Days. Ago, people. From 1940. Been gone 23 hours in that day. Yeah. We were always talk about fucking daylight savings every time we go to do this. It's a song bitch. Yeah. It'll be nice when it hits on the backside though. It's a sweet kiss. Yeah. Yeah. What we're talking about that we talk about. Well, forget. Just the 40 hour workweek was hot. Yeah, Yeah. Because, I mean, yeah, you probably did work six days week and rest on the Sabbath because it's all institution. That's what I'm saying. When it was Viking times, depending on your tribe leader probably like. And then if you know I don't know, there's probably some tyrannical tribe leaders that were like not like enslaving people. And we're taking prisoners and we're working all the time and we never gonna stop making this dynasty. That was like a real way of being and shit. And that's fucking. I'm sure it sucked. I'm sure. I mean, really bad. That's like, the worst. That was my variance. I was bro or Savages back in the day. Yeah. A couple thousand years ago or however long. Yeah. Almost inhumane. What difference? I would just know for sure. Yeah, I was thinking about that the other day that the population of mind like how savage we were to, like, create the fucking Bill of Rights. I think it's in the Bill of Rights. It's like the Eighth Amendment. I think it's like no cruel and unusual punishment. It's like what we needed was so cruel and unusual, but it was usual back then. So, you know, we had to do it unusual because this is fucked up. That's unusual. What would someone say pulling people apart limb from limb? you have devices and machines to do that. Really fucking, like. Pull you apart. They cut you in half and. You eat your head on the spike. yeah, that's crazy. At what point did that become unusual? You got. Into the consciousness. Theory that's got seriously. Well, that. Was the institution that I'm talking about, too. They made the Sabbath holy. You know, like people. That was probably a response to Pure Evil was like something holy to protect them and keep. Them up because role and stuff. Yeah. And people. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't have people that Yeah no. Whatever the fuck. I'm definitely all there. So Viking Times was like through the 1600s, 15 to 16 hundreds of Viking times. Okay. Which is only like fucking. A couple hundred years ago. Yeah. It's not a long, not a long road. Yeah. Then I don't, I mean George Washington and them were 17, 17. 1770s. Yeah. And so that's what they were like. I don't know when they wrote the Bill of Rights, but I don't think it was too long after. Yeah. They had to be early inception. Yeah. Because there were no quartering soldiers was a big thing to. Say like 1800s or so. Right? So no cruel and unusual punishment was probably going on through like four or 500 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All before that? Yeah. Back to the Greeks, the Romans, back to the Egyptians. They're back to this epitome of don't play back message. Go away. That's scary rule. This is scary. Real major, scary, scary movie real. Well, there's an argument to be made that this book dove right Crazy should be The urge to be a savage is so high. That's why testosterone exists. So you can be like. I ain't going out like that. Well, the devil will kill you. Don't look. As if we should be like that. I'm not. Well, I think that's why that's there. You know, the people that survived, the people that had that vote. God and we need your babies. This is. Brody needs to make this the last rule. Is it going to have a real good. You are. Must is the same thing. It's funny how it transcends time, bro. What? Elon Musk says we don't have a fucking global warming problem. We have a fucking population problem. Like the the number of people, the growing rate of people has slowed down significantly and that there's a lot of social pressure and a lot of life pressure and a lot of overpopulation, quote unquote, issues that are making people not want to reproduce. And it's creating like such a dramatic slowing in the rate. Like, yes, we have more people than we've ever had on Earth, but in the last like 20 years, the compared to the 50 to 100 to 200 years before that, the amount of kids that we're adding is like super low. It's like. Yeah, the rate is dying increase. Yeah. And so on. Elon Musk is like that's, that should be one of our like prime concerns because that's like yeah yeah. To almost So is he saying population problem on the other side. Yeah all over but going on the trend of under. Yes. And that's why he's trying to take people to Mars. I mean he's crazy. He's a weird word right. Like man's crack. He's crack for sure. He's like, let me. I know how we can solve this problem by continuing to move us into this futuristic shit that no one thinks we can do. Just like every other fucking technology advance we've ever had. We take people to the moon, we go domiciles, then we take people to Mars. We find water on Mars. We find a way to turn this like ice crystals into water. We find a way to control the atmosphere with the water that we find. We build domiciles, we send people up there. They start having kids that are born up there. All they know is trying to make Mars work. And then humans do what humans do. Like, you know. Like, that's that's this is one of the smartest guys in the world. This man figure makes electric cars, rocket ships, flamethrowers. He's one of the craziest people in the entire world. He owns Twitter and he's so rich. Like, that's the other thing. You can't say this man. It's like not successful. You guys, all the people on the matter play the money game. He's big up on you guys. So, like, he's got like, fuck what? You have to send money. He literally was like, Fuck you guys, You want to block my ad campaign on Twitter? You want to you don't wanna sell me ads on Twitter because I don't want to fuck you. I don't need your money. He's cracked, dude. Enlightenment. That guy is a bad man. We don't have enough family units and kids. Like, it's got to be a real issue. I'm so. Crazy. We'll see how it plays out. Yeah. Yeah. For a yeah. Just thing about people as a whole. Coming from five years ago, we had been savages, so that would. Be fucking Moon Man. Spaceman What spaceman? Rolling this crazy bro. I wonder if are going to go to Mars in our lifetime. Or I guess you think we're going to go like a human touch down in Mars? Dude, I think. In our lifetime, by. The time we're 50, the news is going to be so nuts to us. Because we're like. Cell phone happened like 20, like. Around the cusp of that tech technological boom before phones. Yeah, people had internet, but it was like we're. Probably like. Super slow, like. Crazy dial. Up. Yeah, people playing like fucking pinball and stuff on. Had a landline. Yeah. All that like, would that was crazy to our parents. Like, we saw that jump to our friends are like, my God, technology's nuts, bro. You know, every relationship you give a kid, you'll never know. It's Atari bro Walkman bro title track. So I was going. To it is like, I'll tell you, bro, this tracks we wish it was. Yeah. Rob said like, that's just bananas bro. Durham says it's aliens. So that is to maybe assume in the next 4050 years some crazy shit going to happen. yes. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's where were talking about but but someone 50 or 60 I do think that I think Elon Musk might be like five years away if I'm being like my most generous fellow, I think within five years he's going to pay people $1,000,000 each. They've got to sign all the waivers in the world, and they're going to try to be the first people to go to Mars and hopefully bring them back to. It's just going to try to like get it there, touch it, come back. No way. Bring them back to us. Yeah, I guess he's going to leave them there. Good. He wants to do that. They're quite ready to do that. Yeah. Like domiciles. What? They lose to age or some shit. And they're going to be like, Yeah, I for the spaceship though, whatever, whatever the price is and say yeah. They're going to, they're going to come back and be the same age. But like three years will have passed. They'll be like the leap. Be like fucking. Leap. McConaghy We got a hit. Interstellar dude. But, but I think that, that's like where his headset, you know what I'm saying? Like, how do you eat elephant, right? Like we got to send some people up there, had to bring them back, send. A monkey of their first. Dude. You Facebook event. Yeah, for sure. But yeah. So then okay, so that's my most generous. I think you could put some holes in that for sure. Yeah. But I think 20 years, I'm like, there's no way he doesn't get to the point where he's like, I'll just go myself, like. find the water. How old is he? Is in his fifties. no. Yeah. Click, click, Google. So how old is Iran Musk? I guess. 52. Okay. Fifties, early fifties. Well. I mean, if anybody's going to have some good. Time, he's 70. I'll still be all there, hopefully. Right. He's got the best. Shot as well. I mean, he does have like the highest level ops coming at him. So it's hard to trust the doctor. You know what I'm saying? Facts aside, I got Michael. How like how who's going to happen, man? Yeah, by Twitter. Yeah. It's like, fuck everybody. I'm buying Twitter. Yeah, he's playing Kanye West. Like, put it on his head game, but put on his head. Getting is dangerous when you're deep, bro. He big up though he's got to have seems like some sort of crazy kind of security right That's. What I was going. To ask you. Would you go to the house. Of some fucking haters? All that shit, right. Dude, His like. Has some ninjas. Snipers. no. Rolling helicopters. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I feel like he. Gillies in the mist, bro. Fish, for sure, But it's just a bulletproof glass sort of reason. It's why I made the cybertruck. Nervous is, well. Yeah, for himself. That you guys wrestle. Too. Yeah, that's. Crazy. Well, I'm saying, bro, like his life is. We got to be nuts. Nuts. So life nuts. That's got to be. If you can ever play Roy. Eli boy's going, he'll. Play mustache. It's nuts. But Musk. You've chosen Elon. Musk. Well, it's crazy. So. So. Yeah, but. Okay, so the bigger thought that led me to talking to you about all that is these things transcend time, like population problems and like over savagery and occupy things like war and famine. These things like transient time, it's kind of crazy. And then the other thought I want to share was the Egyptian culture might have been like, as sophisticated as us, just like, different. And yeah, we have this natural predisposition to think that the further back in time you go, the more like super dumb people prehistoric. Yeah. You're like, Can't talk cavemen. Yeah. Like bang in clubs. Like who? The Flintstones. Right. I don't even really watch The Flintstones but like the idea of these like kind of super unsophisticated people is like the nicest animal. Yeah. Yeah. More animal than whatever we consider humans to be now. Yes, but I don't know. I don't. We don't know that that's true. You know, maybe not all the time. Who knows? Yeah. I think I've been listening to enough Joe. Yeah, and it makes sense or it makes maybe that makes sense to me. Like I'm able to accept that just right away that the Egyptians were or I guess prehistoric or what we consider to be prehistoric. Thousands of years ago, cultures could have been more advanced than us. Like I could I could see that happening like I don't. And the thing that I guess the thing that makes me lean that way is just the idea of, ah, having the openness behind the uncertainty of who really knows how the fuck, who knows? Who knows for sure. That's a well, that's a thing. No one can really definitively say one way or the other exactly what the hell's going on, how they built the pyramids, what they were doing, what they were up to, the technology they had, how sophisticated or lack thereof sophistication they were. I think any time period. That's the truest thing about it, is that you can never know. Unless you were there. Right. And there's no there's written testimony, but like, you know, that's what makes it so fascinating. I think that's why narrative can be manipulated. Yeah. I never seen super true Game of. Thrones, bro. Really? Yeah. I love Game of Thrones. I get to watch Game of Thrones. That's one of the I've never come into that kind of realization or that stumbling into that sort of appreciation of why I like Game of Thrones so much and like, what was so cool about it, and also drawing and gripping about it, like off the rip, like within the first season or the first, you know, the first book, whatever is because it was that was one of the truths that it kind of played with and incorporated into its storytelling was the how that narratives can be manipulated to the general public and they're none the wiser. But like the truth, there is ultimate, like truth underneath. But you can just like, completely manipulate the narrative and people don't even know, you know, saying because they weren't even there, they weren't there, they weren't in the room where it happened and, and like fucking what's her name like they Diana Parker check on Joe Rogan podcast when she's talking about people going back to oral oral traditions and meetings where it's called pencils up or whatever that terminology where in which you don't write anything down. It's just there's no paper trail within anything that you're talking about. So like it's. Who really. Knows anything about fucking anything? Dog. Yeah, well, that shit's crazy. You know what we're told, you know? Yeah. And that creates this dissonance that would make it like it's when, you know, it's something. It's like, not unknown. Yeah, it crosses the threshold into known territory, and that's like, not interesting or satisfying or scary or anxiety inducing. It's not. There's no potential to it. What I mean. Information that you can't just, like, know, like they found a methodology to create information that like, you would never exactly know what it is. That's why the Egyptians, I think, are so fascinating, why Joe Rogan talks about it all the time. He can always be like making money or like these conspiracy pages, like they are able to exist and be popular like shows like Aliens, because you don't we'll never know. It's like you might be right, like, but I don't know, like if someone was just fighting Bigfoot. Yeah. It's. I was just saying this guy's read like, there's a whole show about this guy's read, but, like, obviously it's not read. Like, I look outside, it's not read. It's like it wouldn't be. It might be funny after a while. You know what I'm saying? Like. But ambiguity. Behind the uncertainty. Creates this. Like, drawing. Yeah, it's drawing almost. You almost want to hear about a conspiracy theory. Sometimes it's like you're like, Hold on. What's going on here? I don't fucking know. They don't know, You son of a bitch. Who knows? They know. Let me go figure it out. What do they say? Do you know? Yeah. There's, like, a whole thing that happens there. And, like, obviously you shouldn't as a person, you shouldn't get drawn into conspiracy theories because, like, you go down the rabbit hole too. Far until you maybe. Maybe commit to too many. Come in on on an emotional level and emotionally attached levels and get emotionally attached to any conspiracy. There's they're fun to play with. Yeah, yeah. But that that thing exists because of the ambiguity behind the uncertainty. There's some kind of drawing force to it. Yeah. And I think that's then. Then the pencils up meeting is like a methodology of creating information that has a ambiguity to it versus like if someone records it on video and then there's like proof, there's like proof information, there's no ambiguity to it. It crosses the threshold where it's like safe information. But like solid within objective reality. Yes, That's just going to. You have to agree that that's true or you're off the path of like, what's going on here? You're crazy. You're crazy. Yeah. But more than just calling someone crazy, like there's a sure thing going on and it's a lot like basketball that if you're not trying to win the game, then, like, something's wrong. Like you're doing something wrong more or less. Like, you might not get picked up or you might get benched or a coach might get fired. If you're not doing your best to win. And then in life, there's a similar thing going on where if you're not like if you know something, but you're not doing your best with the thing, like if your have solid, concrete, objective information, but you are like your game plan or how you are playing is goes against that solid information that you have, you're creating like an energy disruptions and you're not maximizing your potential for every day. And then the ultimate pursuit of this game, I think personally is to be on that maximum personalized energy every day, like doing your best. And if you're even subconsciously or consciously, knowingly not doing your best and like you're okay with that, doesn't bother you. Like I'm gonna try my best every day. I've got this thing happen to me and I've got this thing going on and I'm tired and all this. Like, it's so easy to think like that, right? But like, there's a life that has ramifications for you. Like your, your karma isn't, like, pure. And you know, that's responding to a spiritual. Ambiguity side of things. Like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But I think when I notice the game of life and I notice the people that are being successful and the people that are not being successful, it's like it seems to me that like pursuing your best self is the thing across the board and the true pursuit of being your best self, I guess, is up to your own perception of what that means. But for me personally, it's hard not to like. I think that that comes into contact like you. So what overall, what I'm saying is this objective known information, everyone has to play with that or they're going to not be respected in the community because respect is and we have to give it to someone. So someone says something. That's the truth. You're like, Fuck, that's the truth. You know what I'm saying? Or you could say, That's not true. Fuck him. No, no, no, no. But but if you know it's the truth, though, because you can't help but give respect to someone that's doing the thing in the field. Like then you become on a negative trajectory yourself. And ultimately, if someone doesn't want to make that compromise, if they're like, Well, I'm not going to engage trajectory. Like I know what the truth is now. I'm not going to act like I don't know what it is because that would make me not a good human and make me not myself like those people. I think those are the leaders in the community. Those are the people that we respect as humans, like those are the people that gets this elevated path because they're being true to themselves and they're playing an honest game with an honest head. And that's what's life is genuinely, genuinely about, I think. And with that comes a stipulation that you have to play fair with objective information. And that's why subjective information is so fucking lucrative. Because it. Could mean anything, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Yeah. You know that. We're not sure. We're not sure about some things. And we loved the pain about it. We love her hypothesizing and debating or dramatizing kind of, you know, imagining. Yeah. Like imagining. We love we love our imagination. I look that shit run wild. That's another thing. That's. Who doesn't love that? Yeah. If you could sell that to people. That's why Rick and Morty sells that to me. And I love. It like. I'd pay more for it, you know what I'm saying? They premium because they really play with my imagination. Like they make me fucking think. I'm like, man, you know, you just watch portals and time jumps and different universes. Yeah. Don't they're trope of typical things and it just like it unlocks some of your loops like I'm able to think broader and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. Why It kind of widens your I don't know what it is exactly scope or reference point of just like thinking about life itself is very abstract. I fucking love I love that about that show. Yeah. Super fast. Really change your thinking here as well. Done too. It's like written in a way where they're going through these like character arcs and like these they're addressing. I think the people that write it are very aware of like their own like stories and like their own moral dilemmas and their own like tragic things that have happened and their own character arcs that they've had to go through. Yeah, their own life story. And they're able to write that not necessarily straight up from their life, but able to give these like their trope typical in the sense where we wouldn't maybe a lot of people go through them in the span of their life, but they're able to draw it out really quickly and like write it really well into the story like you see in the movie, the one where I think it's to the most recent season, but like they're doing the spaghetti people. I don't think so. Maybe, I don't think so, no. Although they sort of listen, you know, when they're doing the book in a the cookies and it's like the is having a moment of pure joy. Exactly. That feeling and putting it into a good. Yeah. Like the way that it presents that moment of pure joy and it's just like you're like, my God, like. I felt that zero like. Their ability to do that is kind of crazy, right? But it's something about, like emotional intelligence of what people go through and like, kind of like tapping into those raw emotions that life will make you have about stuff, you know. It's like sharing a cookie with his daughters, I'm. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. They're like after like a long day of like a good and a bad thing happening. And they're finally got done fighting and they're like, you know, I don't know what the fuck it is, you know what I'm saying? But it's real. I don't really think it's hilarious. And the other first ones like that, and then at the end of it, it's like they capture the guy who like. Went crazy in his job and they killed his boss. It was still like, for real. They tried to trap him and he's like, breaking out and he's like. You made it out. You broke out. You did it like I did. You leave, you find they captured fucking. Encapsulate that feeling and put it. Into a cookie. Liberated rage. Yeah. yeah. That's so funny. Yeah, it's so funny, so bright. So even what you think is not what you think about What you think. Like it's doing that to me, You know what I'm saying? You're able to, like, escape some of your presuppositions and your notions. Yeah. It's a great, great show, but just something to unknown information. That's kind of crazy, because why is that so true? It's like because, you know, like far. Yes. Well, the entirety of science is based on known objective. And what we're trying to do or the entirety of science is, ah, I guess so there's like whatever like social sciences. But I'm like more in physics and shit, you know? Yeah, those types of sciences. Yeah, definitely trying to study and create concrete objective reality or scope it out, field it out, map it out. What's going on here? What do we know? What do we know is true? Objectively true And maybe not. You're trying to do that literally you. But like as people, like the mass of people starts to collect data, like someone wants to collect the data, other people are interested in it. They realize it's important. And then they start recording stuff. You know? Trying to map out what the hell is going on here in this 3D matrix that we're in. Yeah, because a clump is us. Because this is. But as any of this was that this social science is born. Yeah, that's it. Eventually. Yeah. That's like from that moment. Of figuring out we had oxygen that we breathe in like, and I was always like, how do they know. They're right? That yeah. Starting from that, it's like, is any of this. Kind. Of hands What is this? Call it a hand. What I do these like. There had to be a period of that. I mean, babies do that, you know what I'm saying? They're always experiments are trying to figure out what the hell is going on. I always like squirming and moving and kicking their socks off their feet and shit. Maybe it's because at a super like base level, primordial level, infancy level, knowing what's going on around you, like hyper valuable, like the most valuable thing, it's like way more important than anything else is understanding what the hell my feet are. You know? Yeah. You can't go anywhere forward outside of this unless you like. Know what the hell's going on with this? At least. Yeah, at least a little bit. It was a little bit like just that. You have both. You have this. Okay, this is. This is mine. Okay, Okay. And then you move forward. Yeah, I guess. Like, I don't know. I don't maybe like animals. Just, like, move. They're not like, Yeah, we have to deal with being conscious. We're like, my gosh, I'm a I'm a person. I have people I can trust. Okay, that's taking care of me. Okay, That's tight. As tight, Like, just like figuring out what's going on, you know, to. Figure out what's. It is. Maybe that urge is just still in us, like in early twenties and thirties and forties. And it's just like, even when what's going on isn't like. So right here, it's still, like, hyper valuable. You know what's going on in the marketplace? If you know what's going on in the world, you know what's going on in your office, you're saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? What circles of information you have? Yeah, information. Everything is information there. That's no information. So all it is is information. Joe telling the same story. Joe Kelly. Joe Rogan. The guy is awesome. The great episode, good episode. And then you want to I want to finish just having to head out to the M. this time I head over to the Gambit plate. Brother. Well, good. Looking how you. Yeah. Or if this part hits you, I'll be have a freaking great day. Get in there. Whatever you're doing, get in there with the dishes, the drive, the walk, the run, the lift, the life. Keep on pushing. And enjoy it. Enjoy it all. That's what we're here to do. We're here to enjoy it. It's an enjoyable. Experience. Yeah, Enjoy the hard work. It's another thing. enjoy the abstract. hell, yeah. That is pure joy. I do that still hard. I enjoy going. Hard. Yeah, I enjoy upholding responsibilities. Yeah. You got to kind of get off on the savagery of it. Yeah, I'm. When I'm up. Feels good. Yeah. You can get off on the, like, the objective or the get off of the, like, the ego, like the subject of, you know, saying get off on the objective story if who you are, you know, saying it's like watching that Movies, I guess movies, good minutes, movies. It's like watching montage Iraqis like, yeah, like watching as one go in right here. He's watching and he's been getting. His. Arms up. I got to go get mine. I got. Your mind. I love you. Make montage. So to, like. Show up to look where we might go. I just thought this. Would jump in my eyes open like.