Episode #41

On this Episode of The MJ38 Show (Podcast):

Matthew and Justin talk about Being an Actor, People Needing A Leader, and Real Freedom

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Tryna be like Ludacris. Little Chris had a pretty solid acting career. He's in most of the Fast and Furious as well. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah. He's in a lot of those movies. I think ever since this maybe the first one. He's an OG. Character. Definitely in the second one. He's definitely two two fast two furious. You know. He's an all of them you. See all. Yeah, yeah. Shit. Let's go be like Ludacris for sure. Those don't get made without Luda. Yeah, like like I. Guess I could do without him, but I think he. He's made sure to stay. He's in there. Yeah, yeah, I know rappers. I think I've heard Joe Rogan mentioned that rappers have or it's common within like the, the artist group of rappers specifically not all music creators. But rappers can transition into acting really seamlessly. It seems like. It does seem like that you can't just take a tennis player like you and just take. A country, a country singer and make him a fucking actor. It's much. More relatable. Like, you know, like Dave, you know, Lil Dicky. Yeah, yeah. He's great in this. Yeah. He has dramatic moments and stuff too, you know, like some serious moments. Yeah. He's a good actor. He saw that Donald Glover, the prime example. That's the that's that's the boy Donald Glover or Childish Gambino. Yeah. And he's coming out with a new project. A new like, I've seen some weird, not weird, but a couple random posts. It seems like on his social medias over the last month or two, one of them was about, I don't know, some, some sort of was a tour or some shit or some sort of website maybe. He definitely started a website called Gilda. Okay. That was one thing that I've seen, I think. Yeah, yeah, it supposed to be like, What is it? You know. It's kind of like secretive on purpose. but, it's definitely at least like a radio station, like a playlist or like, There's a website. Yeah. Okay. And then he released, music onto that site where you could, like. It was like on Instagram where you could, like, go to this link on his google.com to supply his new, like, single or whatever. And then I also saw a post that was like there was an album coming out, like I think at the beginning of May. So let me type. Yeah, yeah, I'm all about it. The website is kind of like the fucking lovechild. This can't be. That's a. Dog. The dog bro. I've seen him more life than I've seen any other artist thing. I've seen him at least four times. Yeah I've seen them probably like three times at least. Yeah. I think it's the most I've seen any one rapper. Right. One artist, Big Sean, I think I've seen him at least twice, maybe three times. Yeah. That's one. One time. It was awesome. It was so cool. Grand. Yeah. But anyways. Yeah. Trying to act in this base. Yeah. Mixed with a little fetty. Who else is rappers who act like it's Drake? Yeah, right. He started off in reverse order. Yeah. So off on Degrassi, With a joke here is that, you know, rappers are acting all the time. It's not a stretch, but I don't think that's it. Like, what is it that makes a rapper? Yeah. So also be an actor. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Maybe it's just like the type of mindset that you have to have, or like the type of, life interpreting structures, you know, like the way the, your, your creative narrative for life, maybe just the way that hip hop is because it's there. That's one thing I've noticed. I remember realizing that or thinking about that a while ago. Like a long, long, long time ago, that rap is such a different medium of music because it's just like poetry. More or less. You're kind of just writing like you're not playing a guitar. Like if you could just fucking rip a guitar, if you just like, rip the drums or rip a piano, then that's just like kind of irrefutable as far as, like your musical talent. But if you're just a rapper, then like, you're like, just using words all the time. Yeah, it's kind of a different. I need. A whole moment for you to feel that thing where it's like. Really? Like you can instantly just make someone be like, drop their jaw. Killing a violin. You're like, oh, it's beautiful. Oh, yeah. Bro. We've been there, you've been there. I'm crying. Wait, wait. Crying. Pianos and harps, whatever instrument you got. But whatever. But I got to be like, I got to set you up. I'm like. I can't, I set you up. I can't even just say my hardest bars at that point because it's there's no context for them. There needs to be context. You need create the context. Right? Yeah. I heard you wasn't fucking with me. Well, I wasn't fucking with you. Now there's some context. Now I'm. Just giving you, like. Now I can say hard things about you and it makes sense. But, like, like I, you know, I guess you could just be, like, just start dissing somebody for sure. But in my mind, like, you know, the only way to when someone's like rap from a rapper, man, like I either do a verse I've already done, I'm like, there's an example of me rapping, but for me to actually rap to you, I'd have to, like, set it up somehow. I'd have to. We'd have to be talking about something that's like, almost like make a song for you right here. Yeah. voice everything. That's just a lie, you know? Yeah, yeah. Or I guess, make a song. But in a more confined version, you know, I have to make a whole song. But at least this one musical moment or one moment of, just talking about something or something happens in real life, and then you're able to identify it, empathize with it. You're like, oh, this thing happens. You too. And then like, make a, like a sentiment about it, express a line about it, or like how you feel about it or how it makes you feel or whatever it may be, how you're dealing with it. And then like, they'll be like relatable and like, okay, that's like the when you rap from a rapper, man, or is like, tell me a funny joke. Funny man. That's so I of a whole thing for you. I got like, find something that we relate with or that, you know, you know about as well. I guess there's like knock knock jokes out there. You could tell universal jokes. Yeah, yeah. Oh, just try to be funny. You ever seen a book that's like the 5050 best jokes? Or like my dad always. Told a dad jokes. Yeah. Or my dad always had these books that were like the president's naughty joke list. And it was like this book from like the 80s or something like that. And it was like, I guess there was all these like, just joke books out there back in the day and like, bookstores are popping off. Right? Yeah. I just remember seeing seeing some of those. You could memorize those. Yeah. If you want to guess. Yeah. Tell me a. Joke. Funny man, I guess. What is that? It's a little bit. I guess there's, just trying to be funny in general. Just the idea of comedy or humor in itself. But then everyone has their own specific, individual sense of humor as well. But I guess overall you're trying to be like umbrella blanket funny. But I think the funniest things are the things that the people, the things that people find the funniest are the things that they can relate to the most. You know? So it's like trying to just memorize a whole bunch of fucking knock knock jokes out of a book. So you might get a couple of laughs, but then like, there's something there. Like whenever Dave Chappelle tells a story and like, creates the perspective in a narrative and like, puts a, a position, you know, it's like, I think this thing because of this and I think this is like the way we should act or whatever may be in the situation. It's like Dave Chappelle is able to walk you through it and it's like it hits. It's more creative, it's more artful, more artfully done than just like a knock knock joke. So much better. Yeah. So it's like unbelievably better. Right? I think you hit the nail on the head. You said he tells a story. I think that clicked in my mind. I was like, maybe a joke is a story or a better joke's a story. so like like in hip hop where it's like, I almost times I'm like, I need to tell you a story real quick, or I need to, like, set something up, let me give you some exposition, like. But then that's just, like a lot of bars, but with a joke. I think it's the same thing. Yeah. It's like, let me set this up. Let me give us some exposition. Like, you know, there's man walking up a hill. Okay. You love it, right? And, he doesn't have any shoes on. And he gets halfway up the hill and he's like, damn, I wish I had some shoes. Like, at least that's like, you put someone in a place that's not here anymore, you know what I'm saying? So, like, I think there's something to that. Like, I don't have a punchline for that joke. I was just. Like, yeah, you're in the you're there in the story with you. They get transported into this different storyline or alternate universe, right, where they're able to. It's like watching a movie or like the ability to be like, well, what's going to happen next? Like what should happen next? How would I act? How would I respond? Yeah, right. There's like a judge. You're judging their judgment. Oh yeah. There you go. You're like this guy, you know, or you fall in love with the character because they're doing cool stuff. You're like, oh my god he's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So we could do that with I think jokes better jokes or stories right. And maybe that might be why or partially why rappers might have an easier transition into acting or into that culture or into that medium because it's kind of like I guess similar in regards to you're just using your, your words. It's just all wordplay with rap. It's just poetry over a beat. But then with acting you're expressing emotion over a script. You know, I'm saying. Yeah, if I think directly why or another idea that popped in my head about why maybe a rapper has is your times like a country singer is? Because I think that with hip hop, I think most rappers go through a process where, like, you jump on a lot of beats that already exist and you have to like draw or that beat draws something out of you, or you go into a place where a your hip hop bag will work on that beat with like that medium, and you can make a subject that kind of works that way. And acting is kind of the same way. It's like, here's your scene and here's what's going on, and we need you to act this way and make it work. Whereas I wonder if country music, you're writing more of the melodies, like the whole time, you know what I'm saying? It's like all your creation. It's not you jumping into a thing. Yeah. There's something about being able to just jump into that pool and be on that vibe. That's like it's own skill set. I learned like working at a restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. Like like the adaptability. Yeah. To the environment. So I think maybe that's why rappers are like they have that jump in the pool skill set that helps them just act. Like jump into the scene and act. Yeah. It's like. Jump on this beat and. Rap. Oh shit. This is what we got here. Yeah, you got it wrong. Holy shit. I believed you. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. Hello? Beautiful. Beautiful. Fuck. Yeah, I feel. My my eyes got almost a little watery. Like if watery eyes was a scale of 1 to 10, I went from 0 to 1. I don't know. Why this is. I was thinking about acting. Yeah. I mean. Just diving in there and being like that feeling whenever you jump in there and you do good enough to make someone be like, oh shit, that was good. Like, damn, we got it. We got it. Yeah. There's a rap. That feeling makes my heart like flutter a little bit. I'm like, oh yes. Like, I don't know. Hidden shot. Yeah. Right. Again, the achieving the goal feels great. Target. Oh yeah. It's nice shot. Bucket. Yeah I want to translate that into my life. You know I want to I can't play basketball at LA fitness for a living unfortunately. As much as I. Would like to. But I could maybe act for a living, you know what I'm saying? I'm not. I don't love what I do, but I always love what I do, no matter what it is. Yeah. I think that's just in the wheelhouse. So I think that's just what we're maybe part of our journey is definitely, I'm not sure if everybody has that impulse or that, that drive or that desire. It's hard to define what you want. you know what I'm saying? Yeah. For anybody to know exactly what you want to do or how you want to spend your day to day. Because also, like when I'm acting is like level like I went through ten different like I want to do this, but then like life and your own limitations occur and then like you kind of like have to either readjust like originally I would just be a professional athlete. Like, honestly, if we just went from like my ten year old dream, I'd be playing for like with Messi. Right now, I just want to be a soccer player. Yeah. And then play like in America, you know what I'm saying? Because the talents are not that great here. It's like playing D3 soccer if you could. But you get to play here in America. But if you want to play like D3 basketball, you have to go to like Europe. I'm not talking shit about Europe basketball, but it's just not the NBA. Yeah, but it's like flipped in soccer. So like the American League sit here. 15, 20 years ago right. America definitely was not competing. So it wasn't such a stretch. That we're not like really competing for like the World Cup goal they were we'll we'll be in contention soon a couple of World Cups from now. It would say that since I was a kid. So just getting that. But yeah. Yeah, we would definitely because when the Summer Olympics coming around, shout out, that's gonna be exciting to watch. I love to watch that shit because we always dominate that shit. Track and field and basketball. I guess there was a point where we were not playing basketball very seriously in the Olympics too, for whatever reason. You know, for player safety, injury proneness, don't want to mess up their contracts or their money, whatever. Yeah, that's been like the last two years, right. The last to. Last couple Olympics. Yeah. But normally we dominate that shit. But when the World Cup comes around we get waxed. Yeah we do. Actually. We're like a solid c-plus team in that, in that tournament. So when we get a win it's crazy. You I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. We've fought with that though. Always makes there's always some star you can believe in. forget that guy's name. It's like go forward. Yeah. We had an all star goalkeeper for a bit. Yeah Tim Howard. Yeah I think he retired. He's crazy. But it's just not to. Be a professional soccer player. when you were coming up, or as. Far. As. Like, thinking about just like. What you're called path is what you want to do with your life. Yeah. But like, you know this shit doesn't happen right. So then like you. Like. Bounce around a little bit between like well what did I love about this. And how can I like transition you or what. Also you find new things to love and then like you kind of grow and then I think you carry with you like this idea of like, you know, what you're supposed to be or what you're really great at or like what? Maybe some people don't do that, but like, I've been doing that, you know what I'm saying? So identify it. Like stage ten. I was like, you know, acting is kind of like all the things I loved about soccer, too, you know what I'm saying? And all the way through, like, all the things I could do. But this is something tangible right here that I could maybe do. And, I think someone could want to act on, like, level one, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's the first thing they ever want to do. But, like, there's a whole thing about spending the time it takes to figure out what you want to do. Like, some people get lucky, I guess. Just like I want to be a dentist and then you're just a dentist. Boom. That's that's cool. You know, in line. Want to be a certain type of doctor or a fireman or whatever it may be. Right. But then a teacher. Yeah. Even at that point you so might, like, have this feeling is like, is this what I want to do. You know. Yeah. That's I guess I don't know. What is it. It could be maybe like this is what I want to do or maybe thinking is just like my maximum contribution and I'm maxing out my, myself. I guess I'm maxing out yourself I guess. Could be whatever because we had to socially contribute somehow. Some sort of. We need to do something. We need to work. But not everyone's work is the same. But we need to contribute something. But no matter what you're doing, maybe, maybe if you're not maximizing your contribution or like, you could probably. But you probably feel it like subconsciously as well. If especially if you don't like what you do, it's really easy to feel it. It's like, oh, this shit sucks. This is not my maximum output. Or like, this is like the best I could do per se. Maybe not even best I could do, like money wise, but best I could do. Just like as a as a person, as like a being, as a. I feel like we're all individual, like energy, power plants and we're all like emitting power. Yeah. It's like, maybe you're more charged up in this doing whatever you're supposed to be doing. And like that disconnect, you could feel it on a level. But I think, yeah, you need to like try to try to identify it and then pursue it. And then in that pursuit of the first attempts, you'll. Yeah, figure out what you like about it, what you don't like about it, if you're good at it or not. And then the thing will change as you figure out. Yeah, well, you're good at what you're bad at. Yeah. How it's coming out, what the results are. Like the feeling process about that when you're talking. That's like a Big Sean bar. It's like life is a feeling process, process, feeling process. Every a fades out. But yeah, it's like his dad talking to him. Yeah. You feel it? Could feel it. They know when you're bullshitting. Yeah, yeah. You speak from the heart. That just hit me. Or it just like it hit me when it came out. But then the idea of that, like, grew on me once I realized that, like, yeah, you feel whether or not like you're happy somewhere or whether or not like you could be doing more or like you're doing too much or like you're you're giving your best or you're not giving your best. Like, those are all things that you can feel. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You have to be honest with yourself. Like the more quiet and still and honest this thing is, the more you can hear all the other things going on and you can tell whether or not you really appreciate it and really don't appreciate it, or think you muddy those waters sometimes and you can't tell what's coming from where am I fucking this up? Are you fucking this up? What's happening here? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I get really still, I can just see it clear as day. Yeah, you can feel where the ripples are coming from. Yeah. Like what's, what's causing any of my waters to start? Yeah. It's like it's over there. Yeah, I feel it. What is this? Oh, I don't like these people or I don't, I don't like this one particular person or how this one particular person interacts with me or how I interact with them, Or whatever. Yeah. No. Yeah. It's dirty. It's fine. What am I worrying about? That's what I'm worrying about. Yeah, I'm addressed that. I'm at least going to look at. It. Needs you. So it's not that you don't look at it for six months. You know, I'm saying. Okay, that's the nature of life. Yeah, but you could also just be like, I'm dealing with that tomorrow. I'm at least going to take a stab at it tomorrow. Maybe it's just like, okay, I don't have to deal with that anymore. You're gone. You know, sometimes it's that simple, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like you feel some sort of, like, angst or anxiety and you're like, well, what am I feeling? Like what's what's bothering me? And you like, yeah, you'll clean your room or whatever and you'll feel that. Oh, okay. I feel fine now. I think that's what it was. I was just like in a messy environment. And like, now from this clean environment, I can start to make some progress. That's nice. Yeah, that's that's nice. I love that any sort of progress is making the bed. Shit. Yeah, man, that's what's up. What are you talking about? To get started on all this shit. Actors, rappers. Doing what you really want to do? Yeah. We think acting is part of our part of our MJ 38 thing going forward. Yeah. Donald Glover. Donald Glover syndrome. We spent all yesterday making TikToks. Yes we did. It was grand. Trying to buff up that. Actually I'm not really trying to buff. I think that's why a lot of people make TikToks is to buff up their social media presence. But in reality, like, I love what Childish Gambino did and does, I love the like. I want our YouTube channel and eventually a website to be a place where people can just go like, watch it, like it's a TV channel, like there's like several things on the channel to keep people entertained for like hours, you know what I'm saying? Like a series of this. And here's our TikToks and here's our shorts and here's our one scene acting, and here's our, sketch comedy series. And like, you know, I want to fucking make that shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, Yeah. This is this is that in one medium in one lane, you know what I'm saying? But like. An expression. Right? But if we could have this channel be so dope that. Because I just remember being in college, like, back when I had time to kill, back when I could, was. It was a killer of time. You know, I was a murderer. Murder. Past life. So many. Seconds, so many minutes, so many hours. But no, I think a lot of people still, like, I just can't waste time at work. But there's lot of people that could waste time. I didn't need to waste time at work. Whatever it is. Here's. A here's a YouTube channel you can go to and, like, see new content and like I would like open up ESPN, open up I am Donald, open up everything. Until I had read everything that was like new to read until it was all. I've already read this before. Yeah. And like you have to go to several different sites as a human if you're going to stay caught up on everything, like one thing is not going to keep you caught up this full. But we can contribute to that. We could be like one solid. You know the outlets. You up to date on MJ 38 man are the best out of them. Yeah. That's what I hope happened some day. You see the most recent pods. You know all this shit. Listen to the most recent album. Yeah. Oh that shit. Yeah. That's bro I was in the same boat, in college as well, for sure, because I think I mentioned it before, but I definitely, work at the computer labs, and I'd have time to kill after I was done with all my shit, which is not very much like I would do all my homework. And then the job responsibilities were just like, fill up the printers, help people, help people with printing questions. It's like super, super simple shit. Yeah, I got to the point where you didn't have to do anything unless someone had a question. Yeah, you're just chillin. So after I finished all my homework, I would still have hours to kill that work on the computer and I'd be on YouTube, bro. Shout out Hodge twins! I watch a lot of Hodge twins on Bodybuilding.com, reading a lot of articles about workouts and stuff, protein and different kind of shit. Watching a lot of Hodge twins, Chris and Jim Zappone and who was the other guy? Jeff Nippert was another one. So I was like. Yeah, so awesome. Like super, super dope. And athlete X, it's like super dope hit like, workout content and, fitness shit. And I would, I would run out, I'd run. I shit to watch because I would watch it all. It's like, damn, man. So yeah, it'd be nice. I want to be that person for somebody else. I want to be that channel that has the supplies, the entertainment, the information, the the warm waters, all of that shit. The motivation. Yeah, a lot of visions, a lot of it. Sometimes I just want to see some dope shit. Like, I want to see a post that's like. You know, never back down. It's like. Oh, oh, somebody left in their mind, Yeah. Because then you just like. Yeah, yeah. Like that's the least me on Instagram for sure. a little side of espresso or something. Yeah. Let's get it. Come on. That's all I need. A little push in the right direction. Sometimes. Yeah, or a little chuckle or a laugh or whatever. Also, I think sometimes you want to be reminded, like. Like we're like the Alabama locker room sometimes for other people, like, oh yeah, I play it. Alabama fucking trying to play. I got to walk straighter. Let me fucking, I'm on my shit. I'm locked in sometimes. Sometimes when we have that effect on people, you know what I'm saying? And like, I need other people. You have that effect on me. And a million has an effect on me. And like, there's people that you get around where you're like, hold on. Like, I know who I want to be. And that requires like focus, attention, effort, all things that you're not going to give if you're just like, chillin, you know? So if you just like being you, you know what I'm saying? So you really got to be like. Like that's what I have to do. But I think, yeah, focusing is a big thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because I think we're all we all fall victim to the oh, we're all guilty of allowing ourselves to let our human, but let our laziness kind of take over, you know, to to not put forth effort and to be and to slide into comfort versus the discomfort. It's like it's kind of a natural thing. So it's it's nice to have that reminder that sliding into the or choosing to put yourself into uncomfortable situations and do the hard things is worth doing. And it's yeah, it's formidable or it's noble or whatever. It's it's worth doing. Like every time I get I get a little dose of that every time I see, like a David Goggins clip or I see Joe, Jocko Willock or Willie or whatever, his little 1020 second clips of them. I don't even have to watch the whole clip. It was like, almost like it's like seeing them just for like a couple seconds. Just like, like sparks it in my mind enough. But if I watch the thing, it'll get a little bit more. Yeah, I've already just consumed so much of the content that I have. Like that positive espresso feeling of amp it up, turn up the energy, be a little bit more disciplined, be a little bit harder, could be a little. Bit silly girl. That like this is a little shot of espresso. Just like looking at that. Yeah. Person they represent these ideals or either side them. Right. These ideals David Goggins, Jocko Willink, some Joe Rogan shit. Jordan Peterson was like, yeah, fine, just remind me a little bit sometimes. And even Childish Gambino to this day represents like the creative outlet, like do a lot of things. Yes. That's another. Yes, a different the same thing, but different, different flavor of espresso. Yeah. Yeah. Be more creative. You can do anything you fucking write. Act music, comedy, do a show, the whole fucking the whole nine bro movies. Yeah, he's done like, everything. Yeah. He's crazy. Do more. Than like, it's fucking crazy. There was definitely time where he was like, you know, writing albums and acting and community and doing stand up, you know what I'm saying? And then made his own show. Right. I've left community to go make his own show. Right? Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. He's insane. Bro, what creative expression. You could do it. So yeah, I want to be that for people. For show. For sure. For sure, bro. Yeah, it's crazy because it all starts I think. Yeah. You mentioned it earlier. Just like you pick that one thing that you think you're going to try to start doing, and then that one thing that was like go to college and then it was like, go to college and get a job. And I was like, go to college, get a job, and now you're doing this job. And then within that it's like, do you want to continue down this path of like progressing or you want to keep watering this flower and like this, whatever you water is going to grow. So it's like, do you want to keep on watering this? And I was like, yes, for a couple of years. And then eventually it was like, do you want to keep watering? I was like, nah, not really. I'd rather water something else if I have to water something every single day and take care of it and tend to it. Like that. Fruit I didn't even choose. Yeah, I didn't even necessarily, like, consciously choose to plant these seeds and eat this fruit because, like, you have to eat the fruit that you bear or the, you know, yeah, we take care of these fucking the seeds that we're selling. Yeah. And then eventually it led to the wolves do like some I would rather do music. And then yeah now the doing music has progressed and translated and transmuted into doing the podcast. And they were talking about doing like comedy skits and doing TikToks and doing short form little videos and acting and like now it's all just like kind of changing slowly and slowly and progressing and evolving. The thing that I think we're called for, like it's calling to us and we're walking towards it. The more you walk towards it, the more is revealed about it and your clarity towards it and how you chose to act and what you're just to be doing next. Sorry for something. Everyone's on something. It's beautiful I fucking love. Yeah, I want to be those people, man. Yeah, it's crazy because definitely ten years ago. No, I did not intend towards this whatsoever. Know like in know like 1920. No. Barely turned 21. Was not thinking about doing podcasts and shit. I'll be professional basketball player. Like I don't make it to the league bro. I had more Jordan Pierce in my life at that point. I probably would just I just didn't pan out that way, you know what I'm saying? I had a surgery. The timing of things. My mom passed away just like it. Just fucking like that's what I'm saying. That's just like, unavoidable. And it kind of like, pushed me in a direction where it's like, now you gotta reevaluate. What am I trying to do here? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then you'll get pushed and it's like, what am I trying to do here? Like, remember who you are? Like, who am I? Who I've always been? What, what do I like? What do I actually want to do? And it's fucking up that that's all you can do on your half of the fucking. I feel like there's another half that's like the universe working with you. Like the plan that already is for you. Like the the magic in life. You know what I'm saying? Like, you put in your half and then the other half comes to meet you halfway. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's reactive right. Or it's interactive. So as much as you like are pursuing that thing that would be like what you think the best for you would be, the thing that is the best for you comes to meet you. And it's not necessarily exactly what you thought it would be all the time per se, like Joe Rogan in podcasting at one point, did he think like, podcasting was definitely going to be like how he makes $500 million? You know, how he influences the fucking world. You know, his most quote unquote successful venture? Yeah, that's just my word. Like just plays. Out like that sometimes. I don't know, it's wild. Yeah, yeah. Maximize your contribution towards it. That's the thing. That was me. Maximize your contribution towards it. Right. Yeah. And those people remind us to do that. Jocko and Jordan Peterson Joe Rogan, they remind us and think we like rappers for the same reason we like we like who we like for those reasons or whatever it may be. They remind you of something within yourself whenever you see them. Anyone that you follow. I guess right? I don't know, maybe not. I don't know because some people just follow. What, like Twitch streamers? I don't know what the point of that is. They're entertaining for. You to entertain. It's like winter jersey for a gamer. Yeah. Maybe you're a gamer and empathize and relate with somebody. That's something you could see yourself doing that appeals to you. Are you like the way they think or the stuff that they say you identify. Like this one fucking knows I play oh duty. Yeah. Because it's like I know I know of a couple streamers. The big one is what Chi chi chi it or whatever. He's. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, he's at the top. Everyone knows he's a he's a big one. I've seen him on Instagram. No idea what he does. You know, I haven't watched a single stream zero consume zero content. So like from someone on the outside, I'm like wondering like, what do people. Because I know what I get out of following Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson and Jocko. I know what that does for me. So I'm like, what does what what are people doing when they're following somebody? Or like, well, you know, when they give their fan hood or they give their attention to somebody continually, what do you get, Nana. What what do you how do you benefit from this person? I guess from him specifically, this deep. I know what I get from my from my circle of influence and people. I guess we'll criteria. Do you put up within yourself to allow someone to enter your circle of influence? That's that's the thing, you know. What are. You trying to. Do? Yeah. Right. And how at what level? How do you frame the world. What what do you to what degree of importance? Press importance on you? You know what I'm saying? Okay. Like, yo. Like you're you're like, I need these shots of espresso so that I can. What I need is discipline. So I can watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing it for? What? But then I feel like someone watching the Instagram, it's like, what are you being influenced to become? Or what do you what do you what do you want to be influenced into. Yeah. And how much like structure do you have to make sure you're being influenced into things that are actually good? Some people might use Instagram and just like, look at Big Booty House. Like all day long, like all day long. I imagine there's people that just Instagram is just dots for days, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Like for fights or violence or funny comedy clips or cooking shit or. Well, those aren't so bad. Yeah. Just like purely negative influence coming off of the phone. And then people just like allow that into their that like, I don't know what they're doing and I don't know how much. Maybe that's just an eviction. They have to do it. Maybe it's a consequence of no conviction. Right? Right. Maybe if you don't have conviction towards towards an idea that you are consciously choosing, you're going to be swept in the current of big booty haul. What's Instagram bad for? Like But you get it. Like there's a lot of negative influence. Like the at least like like I guess the thing is, like, you could be coworker to somebody and then you all talk a lot, and then y'all, like, could bullshit a lot. And then also not really like the place you're working in and then create this, like negative pool of water that you guys sit in, that it's a conduit for poor performance. It's just like. Well, that's not good, you know what I'm saying? But there could be all of your influences like, oh, I watch this bullshit TV show because it's like my mind numbing. I'm not really trying to get anything out of it or like, goes in a fucking whatever music, you know, I love future. I'm not sure. No future. I don't know what's in that part of my mind. Really. Okay. This guy, because I feel bad for a second, you know, see my dog, You know, there's nothing wrong with that. But, like, you know, it's just kind of. My name isn't my favorite artist, and I'm sorry. I look like a little interject. I was talking to one of my coworkers because I think, Future and Metro are coming to San Antonio to perform. Okay. And, I'm not sure what the timeframe is or timetable for that, but he was talking about we're talking about Metro and Future, and he was like, do you like, feature? And I was like, oh, I've heard, this is a couple songs I like, but like to a degree, but not definitely not. I'm not I wouldn't consider myself a fan, but like, by any measure, I've heard a couple songs and he's like, yeah, I could take it or leave it. And he's like, because it's because you're not toxic, bro. Does Edgar. Oh, good. So yeah. Yeah. there's, Okay. So there's let's just talk about our friend for a second. just like, what is it? What is he communicating right there? Because maybe, maybe future's not toxic to everybody, right? Maybe he's just a great artist. That's why his name was future. Because people like you, kid. You're the future. You're the future kid, right? But Edgar. Self defines. The influence that future gives him as toxic. It he's like. Oh yeah, you don't like to catch some of that toxic influence money. Yeah. You know, but you know, you don't embody some of that. That slime toxic life. Not enough to appreciate the, the art that is future that comes from that. So it's like, you know, seldom self-defined. The part of me that's uncultured would be just like me in elementary school. I'd be like, well, why do you want to feel like that? You know, I'm saying, do you want to feel toxic? Like, why do you listen to that? But like, in my own mind now I'm just like, you know, like, I don't get it, per se, but I'm at least, like, cordial enough to not be like, what are you doing, son? Why are you entertaining that? And how does that play out for him? Day to day, month, month. You there? It's like, does it ever work for you? Ever? Like, I'm not like that, but like, that is how I am with myself, you know what I'm saying to a degree. So I think that's why I like, I guess these influences. I don't think people have a very good threshold for what they're allowing themselves to take in, for the most part, kind of just take in whatever's around you to take in, you know? And then that influence, like, weighs on you and shapes your worldview a little bit. Whereas like. Later. You your view of the world like it's crazy because I think there's it's so broad that, like, your view of the world is just going to be a fraction of what's really there. Like, you couldn't ever see it all for what it is. And it's true beauty. Is limited, right? So, you know, 16 hours of conscious life. If your worldview is like shitty and negative, it's like, that's your own. It's not like it is and it's not. You could always go bigger than where you're at. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. You can always broaden the scope, widen the frame. So I think that like like Edgar needing to or saying like this toxic music is like great because like I'm a little bit toxic or like everyone has that little bit of toxic in them. So like, don't you just love to like feel that energy? Isn't that just part of what we're doing here? And you're like, that's that's not part of what we're doing here at all. Your worldview is different and broader. If you're choosing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like you could choose to just let that slide or to empathize or to give that validation or whatever. You know, I don't know. Power almost seems to require it. I wouldn't say power. Yeah. Oh, you mean. Like in Vikings? He says power is only available to those who are low enough to stoop to scoop it up. Like you have to, like, lower yourself. You have to, like, do something like, I think. Allowing, like allowing yourself to be influenced by toxic stuff. Maybe it makes you more relatable. It makes you more, Hmhm you can more likely to stab someone in the back. Maybe if you have an influence of toxicity, you know what I'm saying in the workplace, or you're willing to, Like, cheat. Or steal or. Lie undercut. And. Really. Manipulate, right? There's just like, oh, you don't like, you don't have some of that toxic in you. Are you playing the Game of Thrones. Like, how are you going to win the Game of Thrones? Exactly right. You're gonna get murked. Yeah. Exactly right. That's just like so power almost seems like toxicity is a prerequisite for the power hmhm. but just. Dude cast. Holy. What is it? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Yeah. No matter who you are. Yeah. That's when Vikings were. The two kings are sitting there. It's like, are you a good man? And the other kings like. Yes, yes. Are you good man. He's like. Hell not. Yes I'm a good man. And then they sit there for a second and he's like, are you corrupt? And he's like. Yes, yes. He's like, are you? He's like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was just like a perfect scene though, because it was like. The moral dilemmas at first on the questions like, do you think that the English king is a good man? You're like, no. And then like, I've seen him do fucked up shit, like I've seen him be terrible, you know what I'm saying? And he's like, yes, you know, like, okay, well, he's got a distorted view. Okay, guy. And you see like the Viking king. And then he's like, we do think he's a good man because, like, he's your protagonist. And then his answer, he was more like, no, I don't think I'm a good man. They think it's bad. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I do. You're like, well and that was kind of weighty. And then he has the English. He's like, okay, you're a good man. But like, are you corrupt though? And then this guy like hesitates and he's like, yeah. And then he's flipped back to our protagonist. He's like, are you corrupt? He's like, oh yeah. And then you're like, no, he's not really though. Like, I don't really see much of that. But then the next season it gets a little haywire. You know, and you start to. Like embody that sentiment that he was expressing that like, power corrupts. Like he was kind of like, I can't help like we can't help but be a little bit corrupted by this power. It's like, not natural for a man to be king. Yeah. Maybe it's not natural, or maybe there's something off or ultimately off that leads to a demise when if you run the simulation long enough, but the start of the simulation that's doomed is just. Maybe we're not meant to be in control of other people, so that much of a degree, because I think about it, it's like being at work. It's like I'm not really like there is like it's being at work now versus being at work at the previous employer. It's like same or like the they're both the restaurant. We're both playing restaurant at a high level. but my position in the game is different. It's like being a player versus being like a coach, I guess. But it's like. Soldier versus general. Yeah, something like that. This one's a little bit different. But ultimately I'm still trying to enforce with like enforce rules or enforce standards and keep keep our like our common base level service high at all times. So it's like in order to achieve that we need to have some sort of rules and standards that we hold people responsible to or hold people up to, accountable for. And it's like ultimately it's like, okay, that's kind of like what it is to be in control of someone or just like to to be. You want them to act like you would to. Try to. Yeah. To try to influence their behavior. It's like, can I guess control, right. It's like to have control of their behavior. Do this, do this, don't do this. Yeah. It's like if you're a boss, if you're a manager, you kind of are in that in that position. But I'm not trying to I'm not trying to be overly gross about it, you know. But I think some maybe because it's not natural to be controlling like, so controlling over somebody, it's I think we have within us a desire to inspire. But maybe maybe power. This like corrupts absolutely if you let it go to your head. Because if someone wants to be king, then they probably shouldn't be king. Yeah. So the person who doesn't want to be king, that's part of who you're making. Yes. And that's the thing. No, that's like the direct dichotomy is like, Wagner never wanted to be king. Then the English guy is like through and through royalty, like a rich person, like. Born into it. Yeah. And so. That's the thing about the power comes both of those people, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't. Even the person that doesn't want to do it, it's a corrupting thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I also agree, Joe Rogan talks about all the time, the person that wants to be president and wants to play all these games and wants to be in charge of millions of people, that guy's a psychopath. Like, get some fucking lunatic. Yeah. What's a hero? If he isn't reluctant. Then that's it. Childish Gambino. so. Oh. It's so. Hard. Right? Bar. Fucking hard bar. Yeah. Like your. Butt was a fire ass. Bar. Yeah, yeah. Seriously. Like, look, at. Ten years later, I still think about that, like in Spy Kids, dude. Like the guy who was like, the guy he's got, like, 100 lives. He's like, don't worry, everybody. I'm here to save the day. I'm the guy. I'm the guy that. He's the guy. Yeah. Though. That guy dies. He was not the guy. Instantly. It was the kid that did it. It's like the the fool. Like the one who didn't know anything about anything. Yeah. He became the only. Way to be the guy is to think you're not the guy. That's the only will. Ever be the guy. That's crazy. Crazy concepts like being the. One, like be neo. Yeah, right. They tell me it's not the case. I guess. That means that mean the whole time. There's like a a moment where he's like. I'm doing it anyway. I'm called to this. Oh, I am this. It's grand. So yeah I don't know I think maybe there's, there's something a little bit unnatural about being in control of. Yeah. Because it's like we're fucking all free willed individuals. Like on a baseline level of like this. So to directly maybe not impede but to try to cut off someone's own individuality or their own free will, like. We can't. You know, they're sovereign. That's why, like Jordan Peterson says, every individual has gotten them, like they're sovereign in the sense, like, you can't you can't step on someone else's got in them. It's like, that's not it's. more divine. It's like in a it's inhumane. That's the word. So, like, I think you have to let someone speak or like, respect them enough to not try to, like, make them just be what you want them to be. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. They have original ideas. They have influence. They have, even if you don't want it, most of the time, it's still like it's theirs to have and theirs to put in. Yeah, it's kind of unfortunate, I guess. I just like, do that, do it back to being like a manager or being a boss in that position. It's like you have to you kind of have to influence the influence and inspire the free will for them to use their own free will in a positive direction, to perform better or to be have higher standards that ultimately lead to better performance for the for the whole, the entire collective, the entire company and everyone, all the guests and all the customers that the companies interacting with. If the if your employees are all acting their best and trying to like, put their best foot forward and, do their fucking hardest, it's going to result in a better outcome for everybody. But it's you have to like it's kind of sucky because you have to respect the ability for people to not do that as well because like, you can't, they have their free will, you can't draw slaves. And and even if you are a slave, you can't like it's like make someone do something. Yeah. Ultimately it's like, fuck you. Like, yeah, kill me or whatever. They sheesh. Yeah. You can never. Just like you said, have someone be a direct output for your will. you can be you can have that relationship. You can have an aligned vision. You can have a similar goal, and you can have like a culture of doing the thing that you both want everyone to do, you know what I'm saying? But it's like you can lead a horse to water, can make you drink the water. You know what I'm saying? You can actually make it do what you want it to do. Unless like you said they have to use their own free will. Yeah. So you have to inspire the use of free will. Yes. In a direction that you've defined as worth putting it in towards like putting, putting your efforts and energies towards these things. And it'll be beneficial because of this, this reason it benefits you or benefits all of us. Whatever. But yeah, it sucks because yeah, you can't you have to respect someone enough I guess. Kind of like to fire them or to be like, come on man, you're you're not using your free will. Like we talked about this. You know, the expectations. Being weird, being weird thing. Being in control somebody. Yeah. It's not natural. Being a know. Being a king. I don't think it's a. I don't know, we. Need leaders. I think. Right. Because I was just thinking I was just in the same boat. I was living right there, too. It's like being a president, you know, it's like we need we need leaders. We really love that. We love that shit. Right? That's actually I know you got a, like a better. Okay, here, just plug it in. I think we maybe, do we need leaders? Need leaders? I don't think we necessarily need leaders. Isn't that kind of what, like, companies are like, having, like, a commune or having, like, no centralized government? It's like we're all kind of governing ourselves. Kind of the idea behind that. So I don't think we necessarily need leaders like you need a boss in a workplace. Some people do. I guess I do need a boss in a workplace to get stuff done, to get work done. Some people fucking do exactly right. Exactly like I fucking don't. Right? Like I'm doing it. Like if I have to do this thing, if it's like if in my mind, if I've already defined it as worth doing, then it's going to get that right. And so I don't need a supervisor to make. Sure I'm doing. Yeah. To make sure that I'm doing my shit. Yeah. Once you embrace doing your job, the supervisors annoying. Yeah, yeah. The micromanaging. Right? I'm doing the job like relax. You know. Lead me in the mood. Lead me when I'm in the mood to be lead. That's from the office. Well, right. Talking about, I don't know, having a boss is like. I like having a good boss. I like having a good I like I like someone being in charge, like, lead me when I'm in the. Mood. To be lead. You know? And it's just like. I think everyone can kind of relate to that. Exactly. We want to be moved and inspired, and you like to see someone come in and be like, just fucking, let's go. We're doing this shit. No questions. Like, let's go. And just like, yo, like, makes you want to, or like someone setting the pace. Someone. Someone to chase after someone. I mean. Doing, like, Jesus, you know what I'm saying? Like, there we go. There's setting the pace. Yeah. Somebody that will define like, oh, that's how you live. I like that's how you do it. Right? There it is. That's the way to do it. Yeah, that's how you do it, right? That's how it should be. I think we like to see that to some degree. But like, do we need a president? Right. Exactly. Different question. I know. Yeah I don't know. I'm just thinking to through. Like, do we. I guess we need someone to be doing it right to show us if we're doing it right. Right. Because how else would we know? How? What do we know if we are acting in the correct way. By the fruit it. Bears? Yeah. There we go. Right. Yeah. We get people. That's the ultimate. That's the ultimate test. Yeah. Is that is the actions that I'm putting forward am I, I guess my theories on life, on how to be. But yeah, I guess I was thinking about do we need the example to be set for us for us to emulate it. And I guess it's like, no, because you're able to sort of run your own science experiments with your own fruits of your own labor. Your own feeling process. Yeah. If you're willing to scientifically kind of break down life and look at life through that lens and try to it takes a lot of conscious effort to be like running your own life experiments and analyzing how am I doing? What was my input? What's the output? How do I move from here? Yeah, it takes a lot. It takes a lot of mental fortitude to be on that shit. All to be scientists. Maybe it's easier to just have somebody show you the workout and say, okay. Even if they show you the work, you still gotta run your own science. You know what I'm saying? I did totally. I was like, you know, I'm a son of God first, and I'm a scientist second. Boom. and then everything else kind of falls after that, dude, because, like, that's all I got is my feeling process and then my science of running that feeling process over and over again, that's like all you can lean on, you know what I'm saying? and it's just like, right or wrong, like, you don't need a lot of simulations to to feel right and wrong. And then the science of, I want to do a bunch of right thing so life gets better. That'd be like the science attached to it to stop me from doing what I do wrong things. Life gets bad. And it's just like, if you never attach any that if I just do the wrong thing over and over and over again, it's like a predisposed nature. yeah. I think, like logistically we need a leader as far as, like numbers because like too many of us, there's too many like Israelites. Yeah, they're kind of like, I guess what? The leader is kind of like a proxy or like a representative. Ideally. Yes. You're supposed to represent the whole. Yeah. Because there's too many of us. There's like, we like that, like, what's the word? I think it's delegate and then maybe another phrase or expression to express it, but it's like we, outsource. Like we outsource sanity. It's like we all, if we all agree that someone is acting insane, it's like, okay, I'm not tripping. Like we're all, this guy's tripping. Yeah, we're all on the greens. That this person is out of the out of the fucking normal loop. What we consider to be regular life. Yeah. Okay, cool. I'm not tripping. But saying maybe somebody. Yeah. Like, I guess you kind of do the same thing with a leader or with a boss. It's like someone has to be the the head or the represent represent the whole. There's too many individual parts. Ideally if they do it well and president same thing or elected official who represents you. I guess we do kind of need it a little bit. Need a strong word. I think that that's how they. Stopped. Moses from becoming a pharaoh. Leaving like when Moses led the, Israelites out of Egypt. Then when he was, like leading them out of Egypt to the Promised Land, then he had made like the stone tablets because he was like, dealing with all of the controversy and all the arguing within the group for like years at a time. And then he. Came either God gave to him or he came up with like, the Ten Commandments. and it was like these Ten commandments will basically stop, like 99% of all of the arguments right here. If you guys like follow these, there'll be no arguments if you guys don't follow these and I can just be like, oh, you broke number three. So that's like your fault, you know what I'm saying? and so but then after that it was like, either God or an angel or somebody appeared to Moses and was like, you're going to become a pharaoh. Like you're directly on the path of being a pharaoh, because it's like, exactly. I just delivered them from like a leader who was making rules and telling them, like, how to do what they should do and like, you're, like, really close to power, corrupting you. so we need to, like, get rid of this, like, position that you're in and replace it with something that will not put my Israelites exactly back into the same system. and then they made, like, tribes of elders. It was like, is like you're like 10 to 12 people would elect, like, one person, and then their turn, the 10 to 12 people would elect one person. And then those people met at a local level. And then there was like layers and layers and layers of these elected representatives that, like, got rid of power corrupting. Absolutely. Basically, if you just had like, just one guy. Yeah. Like we're arguing. So we're going to go to our elder. This guy can't like, figure it out. He's going to go meet with the elders and they can't figure it out. Then they're going to go meet with like, the elders. And it should be that the judgment of like everyone is like in agree, it's more or less because they all represent each other, you know what I'm saying. So that's like one way in the Bible, just one example of like stopping power corrupting by having a king basically. And they just did elected representatives, which is kind of what America is supposed to. Be like a small council. Yeah. Versus a dictatorship. Yeah. Like tons of small councils. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I think that's how it goes now. Supposed to be right. Right. I think that's how it goes on behind the scenes even, because like, we have an elected president and I'm sure other, other countries have elected prime ministers or presidents or whatever the fuck you want to call them. But I think ultimately even the president has like a small council. He has a small circle of people who are really calling the shots. I think that that model is trickles all the way up to the top, the top 100 families or whatever, you know, that are controlling all this shit. They have like trillions of dollars. It's like, could you imagine having $1 trillion with just 1 trillion? I think these families got multiple trillions of dollars. That we would podcast so hard. Would we be in. The Bahamas podcasting so. Hard, hard puzzle. okay. Yeah. The yacht pod, bro. Good car pod. Not a yacht. The jet pod. The jet pod. The yacht pod. But we do rich stuff. Just the. Rich stuff. The submarine pod. We definitely do it. yeah. I mean, maybe for the marketing, right? The submarine pod would be sick. Yeah. Yeah, bro, $1 trillion like those. What fuckers. I think it. Yeah, it doesn't even come to one particular person. I think, like, those families are probably in the community together to maintain their fucking shit. That's weird. I don't even want to live like that. I don't want people have strings on my life. it's not even my money. It's our money. They're gonna ask anybody if I spend any of it, you know what I'm saying? I don't know the this thing. Money is not enough. You need. Freedom. Yeah, yeah. If you get rich near a slave, just want to be a rich. Yeah. Under the thumb or. You know what I'm saying? Under someone else's direct influence of control to people are fucking weird, man. People are weird, bro. And there's some people that, like, want the control. They want the manipulation. They need it. They need it. Which is a little weird. people, I am. I don't know if we need officials, we need leaders. I think it's yes or no. Is it is isn't a dichotomy. Is that a paradox? Well, for our own business sake, if we fucking started a business, we wouldn't give people our position. You know what I'm saying? Like, right. You have to work creative control. We'll figure everything out and thirds. We'll do votes to our two votes wins. you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not that we wouldn't, like, want their influence and want their blah, blah, blah, but we wouldn't, like, let them dictate and control what we do. We don't want to control it. That's our own business. Exactly. I guess what I'm saying is, like, we would naturally be the leaders of our company. You know what I'm saying? I guess, yeah. I don't mind being controlled, quote unquote, or having a boss. It's like having a mentor, you know? It's like it's that boss is like a mentor, then like, fuck yeah. Like. More respect based on competence. My dog. Come on. Yeah. True. You can't like. So I don't mind. You know what I'm saying? Having somebody that you can refer to, I guess it's also really. Yeah. It's like a judgment thing. It's like, whose judgment are you leaning on? Who's whose interpretation step are you allowing to dictate what happens here? It's like I don't mind following your interpretation of your interpretation, so that over time results in a better outcome than mine would have. Are you know what I'm saying? There's like, okay, he was right. Or like Bill Belichick, for instance. people don't like that guy. But then he won championships. Well, so it's kind of crazy, you know what I'm saying? Like that's said someone, you definitely have to be like, that's a good mentor, even though I don't always like he controlled a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? but there was some rub of like that. He know something that I don't, or he was right. You know? Yeah, yeah. Experience. So. Yeah, I don't mind it. All we need do we kind of do think so. I think some people kind of definitely do need some sort of boss or mentor or to give their, I don't know. Thank you for. Revealing your alien. Right now. What? Just you're like, I don't. Need anybody to get the best out of me. Like, I get the best out of me. And, like, 80% of Americans are like, damn, that's not nice every time. Yeah. And I think we all aspire to have that much agency within ourselves. And you can get. There, I think. I think it takes time. You can get there because it definitely wasn't always like this. Yeah, I needed those that college period of time where I was watching a lot of Jeff Nippert in athletics and Jim and reading a whole bunch of shit online about different workouts, different dietary stuff, supplements, stuff, all that shit. You need to be able to be dumb or to not know and follow somebody else until you're able to lead yourself. Towards no role model. Selena. Yeah, then you become the person that we're trying to do, ultimately bring it back full circle to that. Show me the person that I looked up to. I'm trying to be Childish Gambino for other people. Yes, for Donald Glover. It's so inspiring. Us were like, yeah, that's a role model. That that's it. There's one. That's one. Yeah, man. Life is crazy. So yeah, I think we need structure. We definitely need definitely usually need structure all the time. It helps you with your own structure. But do you need person to give you that structure. Maybe in the beginning. You know what I'm saying. Maybe when you're young it helps. When you. Don't have that agency inside yourself. One thing I was thinking is like we appreciate a culture of discipline. We're like, it's like, I don't want to be controlled, don't control me. I'm controlling myself. But controlling myself requires a lot of discipline. Otherwise, if I can't control myself, then you do maybe have the right to control me. I can control myself. So I'm going to bathe in the waters of discipline. Right? So much discipline, I love it. It's easier for. Me to be around other people who are also swimming in the current of discipline. So it's like, let me just like, can we just have a culture of discipline so that we can all do what we are supposed to do instead of you controlling me, you know, say we'll just control ourselves and uniformity. Yeah, that's kind of like crazy, right? It's like, don't control me, okay? We're going to build a system of control. So it's. Like backwards. Almost like the opposite of control would be chaos, right? Or like. Yeah, but it's crazy. Yeah. How you're saying like. You know. I don't need someone to put discipline into me, like I'm building my own discipline. That's it. That's the that's the thing that makes it like. I mean, I think that's what makes you a leader. That's like that. You have that, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. Because like my friend Jonathan, he was the opposite. He's like, don't control me. I'm going to bullshit like the. Like whereas you're definitely more like, don't control me. I'll control myself, which is fire. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Don't tell me how to get the job done. Just watch me get the job done. Oh, yeah. That's that's guess that's guess. Like, don't only get the job done, I'm gonna go fuck off. Yes. But there is something so like, I don't know, I thought Jonathan was like, like going to be a successful actor someday because he was like, not wrong. He, like, embodied the the Joker attitude. He was like, like the king in the in the fool in the town square. I like friends are good. Typically it's like, why? It's like, because that guy's just as right as the king. Like there's truth to him, you know? Yes. Yeah. The the the comedian. The jester. Yeah. The jester. That's right. And so, like, in the vein, like I didn't hate him. And that was interesting to me because I would normally hate anybody who would be like, fuck this, I'm going to go bullshit and. Would go fuck off. But he's also good at the job. So like competence, you know what I'm saying? Commands respect. Yes it does. And then his own personal sovereignty was like, I don't need fucking this fucking guy who does a fucking care about what we do. He woke up like he's got his own bullshit going on. His boss is mad at him, and he wants to come in here and yell at us about stuff that I don't even do on the regular. I'm not Fergie, dude. I'm going to go hit my vape in the bag. Dude, I don't give a fuck, dude. And it was just like, he didn't talk like that. But like sometimes that was like the attitude behind why he was like, it's so arbitrary. It's also arbitrary. Why would I let it dictate my. Who. And my emotions about regulatory responses over the arbitrariness of the fucking sawgrass? You know? And it was just like. Goddamn it, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The control man. That's crazy. Right? Yeah. We're we're getting deep in this bitch. This is analyzing it from like, a free will perspective. Yeah. Because it's it's strange. The control of being controlled. Try to control ourselves. It's a it's a it's a hard task to control yourself. Oh, yeah. It's a hard fucking thing to do. To act how you want to act all the time. Yeah. It's like free will is, If you can master full power, you be a real superhero. Yeah. Like that was like my uncle was, like, in his 30s. He's like anyone that masters willpower is like a modern day superhero. That's it. It's like. That's truth. As a kid, I was like, that can't be that hard. You know? yeah, it's it's strange because we have quote unquote free will, but at the same exact time, a lot of people definitely do not have free will insofar as just like day to day stuff, activities, habits, thought patterns, verbal responses to things, types of jokes you make, this is like subconscious fucking strings that are pulling us. Yeah, it's like we think we're we have free will and shit, but sometimes you you really don't. A lot of people it is sucking in that there are that neuro neuro plastic fucking groove, that spot. Yeah. That that automatic response. Yeah. To whatever it is to feel a certain way or to fucking act a certain way to do things that you're not supposed to do, that you told yourself you're not supposed to do and then not do things that you told yourself you should do. It's like we're all in that weird crosshair of like, free will, but a slave to your own habits. So it's important. Listen, some JB, stand up a little bit, listen some Memphis and 38. Stand up a little bit. Got to do it. Take that shit back. Need it, take it back. Yeah. It's like, It helps. It helps with that. It helps with the the neurons firing. I value this, I value this, I value this. Yes. You need that affirmation almost. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember fire those every day because it's like, that's the thing. That's your life for you. That's my life for you. It's like we're like, operating a computer inside a fucking world. And, like, part of my life is output equals input equals output. And like, or what I put out is what's going to get put back into me. And then I have this natural predisposition to fall into whatever, like neuro, fucking where you fire stuff like this makes me fire this neuron. This makes me fire this neuron. And like, all that shit's just, like, happening. And you have to, like, break habits and break cycles and break thinking models and stuff like that. Otherwise you end up in a place you don't want to be like. You have all of that figured out on your map, and people are mapping that. You know what I'm saying? I'm mapping. It now. I'm mapping it all. It's like critically important to watch out for those senior world. yeah. Just thinking. Just thinking about this shit, man. The free will. We're dangerous. We're dangerous to ourselves if we're not careful. Yeah, we need someone to kind of show us. We need a Jesus to show us what the fuck is up. Hosting the fiesta clips? No, dude, they're crazy. Just scrolling Instagram this last week I seen. So what do you. Mean, a quick crazy? What? What? Because I think there was a shooting. Is I referring to. Okay, like. Fights in the streets of San. Antonio? Yes. There's like a San Antonio. I didn't know this one. I think one of our servers was telling me about it, and he was saying that Fiesta is like the second largest statewide. Like party are named statewide. So citywide, citywide party in America right behind Mardi Gras like so Mardi Gras is number one. So baby. Girl. Yeah. The baby girl, bro. That's five Fiesta Gras. It's awesome. So yeah, first is like a party. It's like a week and a half, like ten days or somewhere in that ballpark long of festivities and, kind of cultural shit going on in San Antonio. I've been doing it. I'm not sure how long they've been doing it, but I don't know. They don't know for a minute. But this is a fiesta. It just happened a couple weeks ago or a week a half ago. But there was a shooting that broke out. Yeah. Fucking crazy. Yeah. Somebody shot somebody, and then the cop shot that guy shooting that. Well, what are you saying about the video? So you're saying there were crazy? So many fights? Just. We're dangerous. Yeah, we're dangerous to ourselves. People just. We're going to party. We're party. I we're going to drink. we're going to get fucked up. Oh, yeah? What did he say? What the fuck did he say? What the fuck you looking at me? I'll say you get arrested. It's like, what. Just happened there? You know what I'm saying, bruh? People are dangerous. That's crazy. Dangerous to ourselves, man. Yeah, that's crazy, because there definitely is, like, the attitude there. A lot of that. It's like, let's just get fucked up because what is that? It's like it's innovation or just like, fucking all caution to the wind. Let's just get fucked up. I think it's like, get rid of all my stress that I'm feeling everything. I'm feeling berry, berry. We're going to ritual it. I'm going to fucking shower and put on the music and put on my clothes. Yeah, I'll fuck. And then we're going to go over and do two shots where we hit the door, and then we're going to fucking listen to our favorite music. It's like a ritual of like writing of your stress. Yeah, yeah. I'm flying free for one night. Yeah. No. No weights, no additional stressors or anything holding you down. Yeah. Just trying to rid yourself of all of anything. All that's not helping. Let's see what you need to have some stressors and stressors, but you need has some blockers or some sort of. Or maybe it isn't. Discipline is like a discipline is just like like the weight carrying muscle. It's like you need to it's like whenever you go out to go, go, go, go get fucked up, you're trying to take off all the weight of your life. But it's like discipline helps you because that's just going to stack. Like whenever you're done drinking, it's like you got to put on all the weight. Plus a hangover. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I'm carrying all this weight and I'm hung. Yeah. So it's like. There's no help at. All. There's no not carry weight option. Yeah. Discipline is helps you carry weight and get better. Get better at bearing a load and not. It's like doing a fucking waltz. It's like your legs are gonna get yoked up if you do enough losses for a long enough. It's like your quads are going to get strong. It's like when that late weight hits you, it's on your back. It's like, okay, it's not that bad if you willingly fucking do that shit right. But then, yeah, there's that just the let's get fucked up, let's take off all the weight of life. Yeah, escapism. So it's green, I get it, I fucking get it. We also have this dangerous because I think we ended up in a fucking shootout. That Fiesta crew. That's where that slope leads. It's in a group fight. Yeah, on the street somewhere. It ain't worth it. No. That's crazy. The other thing is, like, you have the structure of your job, you're like, I don't have a hangover because I got shit to do tomorrow, so I have shit to do tomorrow. Is like. Yeah, let me free tonight. I can do anything tomorrow. I'll be free tomorrow night to drink. Good brother. I remember having that there, or thinking about what you just mentioned in college, in regards to, like, drinking, and because I wouldn't, I guess I drink a little bit in college. I'm not really, I don't really know. That wasn't one of my vices that really gripped me, but it's like I remember thinking also that, part of a deterrent that maybe helped me not want to drink so much was working out because I was like, one. It's, just extra calories if you're drinking beer or you drinking sodas. I like Jack and Cokes or whatever the fuck you like. Drink a margarita is a lot of sugar or whatever the fuck. So additional calories already. And I was like, back in college, I was really on top of my macros and like, trying to make sure this fucking experiment works, you know, saying, yes, I want to maximize my input. So then I knew that those additional calories, I was like, I can't really I can't really afford that. Like, it's not worth it. It's not worth it. It's not worth that sacrifice or it's I gotta make a sacrifice. Either way, it's either the sacrifice of my macros or the sacrifice of, like, having fun or whatever the fuck I was like when I was. Take my macros. I'll be okay. I was wrong every once in a while, whenever I have it accounted for in my accounting of my macros or whatever the fuck I was doing. So it was like the one thing with the extra calories and macros, and then also the negative ramifications of waking up with the hangover and being dehydrated in the gym and shit. And just like, not lifting your best, you know what I'm saying? And not having your body recover fully and maximize your muscle protein synthesis and your muscle growth, whatever the fuck. So like all those things definitely helped me. Shape yourself, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Helped shape, my actions and my neural associations for things. Yeah, because it's like, I can't do this tonight because I got tomorrow coming up, and tomorrow I need to be ready for legs or whatever the cycle. Right. But it's like, if you're not going to hit legs, you ain't got work tomorrow. Why are we having to? Discipline ain't got shit to do. Yeah, yeah. You'd be a fool not to be stupid. What are you talking about? Get well. The getting good. Yeah. For sure. That's the thing. The constraints help us have some. You need something to live for. So you're not just like. Yeah, what's going on tomorrow? What's going on in 5 or 10 years? Gas. Gas. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, discipline is freedom. You know what I'm saying? What is free will? Free will is almost like not free will is not freedom. You know what I'm saying? No. If you use. Your free will to develop discipline, then you can have freedom. Oh that's it. That's some super fucking unboxing the universe, the Rubik's Cube of the universe right now. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Freewill is. Dangerous. Actually. All free will is gives you the ability to make yourself a slave to yourself, to your habits and to your thoughts and to your natural predisposition. And we're so we're so negatively attuned to to information. It's like we have to make a negative information more, more important to us, quote unquote, or more we give it more importance because that could potentially hurt us in the future. This negative information. So it's like we're definitely more drawn to negative headlines and you're just drawn that way. If you're not fucking actively going the other way, it's it's super hard to actively go the other way. Hit the use your free will to develop discipline, to make yourself go the other way. Then you have a motor on your boat. Yeah, yeah. Otherwise, like, yeah, the current a life is going this way. And like you have to develop your own motor boat to fucking fight the currents. Have any chance to fight the current going the other way. When you just keep going the other way too, you're just like, oh, shit. The numbers get really small. I'm cruising. Yeah. Then there's art, then there's separation. Like there's no one around me. Yeah. Where is everybody? Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's like one of the keys to life. I think it's like once you start climbing up the salmon ladder, you're like, oh, not that many salmon are going up the salmon letter. Everybody's going downstream. And then it's like there's not so much competition. There's that so much like even people to relate to. It's like negatives and positives, because I think one of the reasons that if there's so many people out there all fighting for the same job, are all trying to make the newest product or all all of us were actively pursuing everything, fuck, it would be hard to make it like it'd be really hard to be a good anything if there was all 3 million. How many people are in America? 3.8 million. Two point a billion? I think it's that they were like 400. Almost 400 million, maybe. Okay. Yeah. So I'm in the ballpark. Be really hard to get a job, you know what I'm saying? Like, not everybody is doing that part. You know what I'm saying? The numbers get really thin. It's like, okay, there's only like, like. five highest levels of things. Yeah. Like, how many active comedians are there? There's Joe Rogan. I always say he's like, it thinks it's listed 500 active comedians in the world. That are like, killing. Yeah, or like performing on stages and like, touring. And I would say a couple thousand. I think Joe's like less than 500, bro. Really? Yeah. Damn. Yeah. The numbers get super thin, bro. If you become, you know, massively competent. Let's say practice a time. That's it. What you need discipline to use properly. Fuck man. We're lucky cause like one thing is like we've been telling jokes to each other like forever. You know what I'm saying. So that's cool because I have a ton of practice in that. Or like having a conversation with you forever. So we're like, pretty good at that. There's other things we've been doing for like a shorter period of time, which is like. Like entertaining. Yes. Or like being able to, like freestyle at a table and just like crush, probably doing that for like six years, you know what I'm saying? So there's different like some people have been care. You've been singing your whole life. So every time you sing in the shower, you've been singing. So like sometimes it's like, yes, you've been developing something your whole life just based on who the fuck you are. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But there's other times where it's going to take, like, I have not been playing the violin my whole life. If I started tomorrow, it would be like a zero on the scale of hours spent. And I'd start at one. Yeah. And like, that that takes discipline, that kind of shit. It's like some of it's like you're lucky. Like you just are someone who does this a lot. So you have a ton of practice, like competing and playing so much, like pick up basketball my whole life. Like being in competition with people isn't, like, a weird thing to me at all, you know what I'm saying? I don't feel like I'm in that very often. But, like, if I do find myself in that place, it's like not unfamiliar territory. And there's just things like, you know, been eating your whole life, you know, how to eat, you know what I'm saying? But there's other, like, more translatable stuff, like if you've been kind your whole life, maybe it's just you. Maybe you're just a good person. Some people, like, don't know how to be kind. Yeah. You know. Yeah, yeah. Interesting beings. Man. Get some fucking discipline in your life, kids or skull. That's what we're all about. That's what all of our influences are about. So we're trying to help motivate and aspire to do. Because as we're talking about right here, man, this shit's crazy. Shit gets deep. We're all freewill, free willed entities, but it does not mean we're free. Yeah, we need to take control of yourself. And the only way to do that is through discipline. Yeah. How would you practice. Discipline if you want. To? Just like fucking. I think I saw something yesterday, actually, that's like, I just was talking about making your bed. Say one thing, cash. One thing. That's it. That's the one thing you can start doing right now to. So building that discipline stat. And then whenever you come home after whatever the fuck you do and you see your bed, you'll be like that little this little little sign of espresso right there. It's like, oh yeah, I did that. Yeah. Nice. At least I did that today is I did that. That's great. Drink more water. Make your. Bed. I love coming home to my bed. Yeah it's awesome. When I come home it's not made like damn it. That's I, I'll go home tomorrow. I make it like. Immediately. I make it, I'm like God damn it I fix this real quick. Here we go. Hold on. It takes a whole minute. Two minutes. I was so bad. Bro. I was so bad at cleaning. I was so bad at, like, being orderly, so lazy when I was a kid. So fucking lazy, bro. Like, I hate that motherfucker. Beat him up for being so lazy that free will the best fucking just laziness. Develop a bad habits every day. I'll get that later. That's all you did was do it later. You a later a later king later. You're the king of later. Yeah. Later. Late is a different kingdom. This is the now I rule in the now in the later does my work. Yeah. Later. We bask in the shade of the trees planted. In the now those envy. Those making more work for myself all the time. But it's crazy. Like there's two thoughts. One is that, like, just working, like my life story took me to a place where I was, like, literally cleaning up after other people all the time. And then it made no sense for me to like, have to come home and not clean up after myself. I already know how to do this. You know what I'm saying? Do this all fucking day. Yeah, I lived in a culture where I was like, if someone doesn't pick up some trash and they walk by like, hey, what the fuck? How come on, bro, pick that up. How am I going to be like that at work? And then come home and be like, that's cool. Yeah. And develop. That's funny. Yeah. So, like, life took me down a place where, like, I developed more discipline to where, like turning, turning off the fan. Like my my fucking bed fan before I left the house, dude. Or my stepdad being, like, making a rule if I left my fan on when I went to school, then I couldn't use the fan the next night. And I remember, like. Rough that one. Time. One time I had no fan, I couldn't sleep. I was just like hot and sweaty and I was like, this is not it. Because not. It. Because it's not it. And even then I was like, hated him for that. Like, you son of a bitch. It's just a fucking fan. But you turn it off, you fucking three. You want me to suffer? For what? For what? What? But $0.10? He did the. Math. He's like. It's like, you know, it's like $0.20 a day or something like that. of course, the year we're going to pay, like 50 bucks for your fan have it. And I was like.$50 pay off. Right. Let me go. Fuck you a fan? Actually, it's a bitch. But but like now. As an adult, I like I had that moment occur still where I'm like half the fan on and like the beds in the way. And I'm walking out the door and I've already activated leave muscle. Yeah. And like, I've got all the shit. For the leaves, the apps. Yeah. And and that's the discipline moment though, like that's it where you're like, you're like that when you see the bed and it's messy and you're like about it. But I noticed it. And then like. There's that, like that moment. The fork in the road. Yeah. Just like make the bed. Like, turn off the fan. Oh, it's so weird. That's the discipline muscle. Yeah. That's the workout. You'll feel the you'll feel the fork present itself. And then you have to like, nah, fuck that. Nah fuck. That. It's gonna be hard to do. Go against the current. Yeah. Not like that. Upstream. Upstream. Dude, it's. That's like doing a push up. Hard cut. Yeah. You gotta like, develop the muscle. Like you said. But the problem is, is like, you can't do it all at once. Like, you can't just, like, become masterful in discipline. That's why I'm making the bed so nice. It's like the tiniest increment of, like, a disciplined workout. so that you can, like, do more and get stronger in that muscle. Yes. Yes, bro. So I can make the bed, dishes, laundry. That's it. Feels good. Now, you know, I'm saying. Oh, it's still annoying to do, but it feels much better now than it ever has. It's annoying to schedule the time to do it, but once the time is scheduled and I am doing it, it's nice just in the podcast and. It's. Like an nice join a offline in the apartment. Yes bro. Fuck yeah. You may want to wrap it up and go hit Play-Doh school a little bit. Yeah, we right there. How do we go today? Yeah, we we went in like an hour. 29. Yes. I'm 20. Change. God damn. We're going in there, bro. Yeah. Fucking dude. So that's a concept man. We'll we'll figure out the fucking keys of the universe here. Y'all got here along for the ride? Yeah, we're stepping up a level of do it ourselves and show some TikToks. Hopefully. See those? Yes. Yeah. We got so. Got some more music on the way. Can you finish up last last song or to get that shit going? We got some TikToks and some more short form little skit skit comedy videos coming. They'll be on everything. They'll be on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube shorts. They'll be everywhere. But we're gonna get some more of those, some more kind of organized, organized video content out there. The podcast is coming. The one, the other one, I think we 41 or no. 40 just released. We keep on moving, man. We got a good little routine though. So get the routine though. All right. Let it rock. Let it ride. Hell yeah. Fucking get it, man. Yeah. Good luck on your day. Go crazy. Let's go. Go crazy. Go nuts. Go in today. Gotta do it. Go in today. Go show somebody something. Make your bed. It's a. Show, so. Show yourself, baby. Come on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I make a bed game. On this thing