The Arterburn Radio Transmission Podcast
The Arterburn Radio Transmission is a blend of cutting edge commentary, fused with guests who are the newsmakers and trailblazers of our time. Your host Tony Arterburn is a former Army paratrooper, entrepreneur, and historian. Tony brings his unique perspective to the issues facing our country, civilization, and planet.
The Arterburn Radio Transmission Podcast
#30 Paratruther Live -Business Plot Unveiled: Power Struggles, Conspiracies, & AI's Role in Today's World
Could a forgotten plot to overthrow a U.S. president rewrite the history we know? Join us as we unravel the hidden layers of the 1933 Business Plot, a scheme that almost toppled Franklin D. Roosevelt. With the brilliant Chris Graves uncovering fascinating insights about General Smedley Butler, we're diving into narratives that challenge mainstream history, examining the delicate dance between power, politics, and conspiracy. From the peculiar synchronicities in personal anecdotes to the astonishing revelations around the coup that never was, we're guiding you through a web of intrigue that remains largely untold.
Chris Graves joins us to dissect the intricate details surrounding the alleged fascist coup, shedding light on the covert operations of wealthy businessmen threatened by Roosevelt's New Deal. We venture into the murky waters of government corruption and historical manipulation, drawing parallels to events like Germany's Beer Hall Putsch. With a keen eye on the societal tensions of the era, we explore the rebellious spirit of the Bonus Army and the geopolitical chessboard that defined the prelude to World War II. Our conversation doesn't shy away from controversy, as we question the motives behind these historical shifts and the role of influential military figures like Butler.
As we weave through the chaos of geopolitical narratives and pop culture, we also tackle the unpredictable nature of AI technology and its growing influence in today's world. From Google's Gemini chatbot to the nostalgic chaos of Ronald McDonald and the Holodomor's haunting legacy, our discussion invites listeners to engage with a blend of humor, curiosity, and critical analysis. We aim to entertain and provoke thought, encouraging you to question the narratives often taken for granted and explore the complex layers of history and society. Join us for an episode that promises not just to inform, but to ignite a deeper conversation about the stories that shape our world.
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Speaker 3:All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Paratrooper. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of fair truther. I am your host, tony arterburn, broadcasting live from deep within the heart of texas, along with my co-pilot and co-host, dean brave, at least, which is in studio with me, and I have my magnificent co-host joining me for the stream. This is uh. We tried to do One what, uh, two weeks ago, and I had some technical Issues and I think we fixed some of the bugs. Uh, we're gonna go to the audience Tonight for participation, questions and things. Different kind of Show I'm, I'm.
Speaker 1:I'm doing it, sorry. Uh, mr Sorry Tony. Sorry, here we go. What are you doing, chris? I'm doing it, sorry. Mr Sorry Tony. All right, sorry, here we go.
Speaker 2:What are you doing?
Speaker 1:Chris, Sorry, I'm just trying to minimize the interruptions and I interrupted our excellent yeah, the intro and I'm going to mute right now.
Speaker 2:Go back to the private chat, Chris.
Speaker 3:I think Chris thought he was talking to me on the phone. No, this was actually a live show, sir, and uh, it's not a group call. But uh, thank you. And no, we, we love chris. Uh, thank you for being here. Chris graves, uh, researcher, extraordinary without peer, always love having him on. He's going to talk a little bit tonight about, uh, the fascist coup that wasn't with medleyley Butler, who wrote War is a Racket, and we've discussed that a couple of different times off air and I've discussed it on the Arterburn Radio transmission a couple of times and it's in Hidden History. So we'll go over that tonight. And I have Mr Anderson, his brain, brain, he's decided to um step out of the dimension that he's he was in currently, uh to address us here and uh hopefully help us reset our timeline and uh write things that once went wrong. I'm thinking of quantum leap.
Speaker 2:Uh, thank you for being here, mr anderson yeah, of course, it's always a pleasure to be on with you and chris. I'm looking forward to this smut butler stuff that Chris has.
Speaker 3:There's always a joke within a joke, like a Russian doll somewhere with is Mr Anderson, chris Graves and myself. We make up the bulk of what is Paratruth or usually, and sometimes you'll get, you know, an interview from me. That's not live or something that I'll throw up on the feed. Of course, the Art of Burn radio transmission live every week on Thursdays at 11 am Central Time. I just signed a contract with WWCR, which was Bill Cooper's old home station, and since Alex Jones is no longer on the air at that particular station, I actually took the 11 am slot, which is going to be cool because a lot of people listen to that frequency. So I'll be live on all my channels on Thursdays, as usual, following the David Knight Show, and if you subscribe to my channel, that's usually parapolitics, precious metals, markets, stuff like that, and Tony Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, didn't you have an unusual synchronicity when you actually were first on WWCR? Weren't you like reading Pelhors Rider at the time? Like you had an introduction to Bill Cooper and kind of found?
Speaker 3:out. Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I decided, you know I was reading Pale Horse Rider, you know, for about two years, off and on, and I read, you know, looked into different stories on Bill and his archives and it was kind of. It was one of those and you and I've talked about this before I think we did a show live from his driveway on the anniversary of his being murdered by the police in 2001, 20 years later, but no, I had that was 2020. And it was the day that my Labrador, layla died. She died she was 13 years old, but it was a really big shock to me and I went to my office and I was just trying to figure out. I got to do something new, I got to get out of this, you know, just felt like I was in a, a really dark place and I called WWCR and I signed up and got, got a contract for my first frequency, my first slot there, and it turned out that was Bill Cooper's birthday. So just a little bit of synchronicity there. And then I recently I came back to WWCR. I'm leaving all traditional talk radio, terrestrial radio. It's just not a place for me anymore. I've outgrown it and nothing wrong with it, it's just, it's just not for me anymore. So I've let all my other contracts lapse and we're going to stick to WWCR, and then my own platforms, freeworldfm and Rumble Rockfin, my Twitter, all that good stuff. So that's just a little bit of housecleaning.
Speaker 3:And then, paratrooper, we're going to do our best to have something live here on Sundays, 5 pm Eastern For a little while. Each one of us will bring a story. We'll talk about culture, conspiracy, trending things, but not we're going to stay out of the to the best of our ability. Stay out of the political box. I don't like it. It's boring, it's too much of a job and there's not enough hours in the day to actually learn something meaningful. And we'll try to make it a fun show too. So that's at least the goal here, and we're going to have audience participation today. So, chris, I want to start with you, even though you started with me when I was introducing the show. But let's start with you.
Speaker 1:All apologies, sir. My family is. I've been trying to reign them in.
Speaker 3:That's okay, I'm just, I'm just messing with you, I know. So for those who don't know, the most highly decorated Marine Corps general of all time Highly decorated Marine Corps general of all time, I think even until now. It's not the most highly decorated as far as overall, but the most highly decorated, if you want to use that moniker for was Smedley Butler, and Smedley Butler and he's even still used in war colleges and stuff on tactics and other things, and he's even still used in like war colleges and stuff on tactics and other things. He wrote a book called War is a Racket back in the late 1930s where he just gotten tired of, you know, propping up multinational corporations and foreign policy to him was an extension of finance and he was sick of it. So he wrote War is a Racket. I recommend it to everyone. It's not a long book and there's some big ideas in there that if you that still are applicable today. Um, but what a lot of people don't know. He died and um, I want to say it was early 1941 21st 1940 june 21st yep
Speaker 3:so right before, like two days before operation Barbarossa, one day before Operation Barbarossa, which was the turning of the Third Reich onto the Soviet Union. So that's interesting. He died right before the United States would be drug into. What Franklin Roosevelt said was you know, your boys will not be sent to another European war. I hate war. And he was planning that all along. So in the interim, after the election of FDR and I'll let you get into this, chris there was a period there where supposedly some representatives of some industrialists reach out to Smedley Butler and they wanted to retake the government from FDR like a fascist coup, like a military-led fascist coup. I'll let you start. What's the background on this?
Speaker 1:First of all, smedley Butler, like you were mentioning, he had a 34-year military career and he was a part of the Philippine-American War and the Boxer Rebellion, the Mexican Revolution, world War the most decorated Marine in US military history and by the end of his career Butler had received 16 medals, including five for heroism, and he was the only Marine to be awarded the Marine Corps Brevet Medal I don't know if I'm pronouncing that way, it's B-R-E-V-E-T, b-r-e-v-e-t. I went to public school folks, sorry about that as well as two medals of honor, all for separate actions. So basically what had happened was after he retired from the Marine Corps, he became an outspoken critic of basically our foreign policy and our military interventions and he saw basically everything being driven by US business interests not so much for the American public's interests, but you know, big business or whatever where he basically was saying that it was imperialistic motivations had been the cause for pretty much most of the operations of his military career and that's what led him to write his 1935 book War is a Racket. I can barely speak, as you can tell, but I recorded myself reading each one of these chapters. Hopefully I can get someone that you know can pronounce words and things like that to re-record what I had originally done.
Speaker 1:But yeah, there was a thing called the business plot and I came to know about the business plot from Governor Jesse Ventura because he included it as one of his chapters for his book American Conspiracies. I think it was published by Skyhorse in the year 2012. And it was right before I came to find the work of our mutual friend, donald Jeffries, hidden History. So Jesse Ventura was kind of like my intro into Donald Jeffries, believe it or not. So basically it was referred to as the business plot and it involved Wall Street and basically the bare bones of it is big business wanted to stage a coup by removing FDR from office, which is the weirdest thing, by the way, because FDR was playing ball basically with the powers that be.
Speaker 2:Well, chris, I thought part of the reasoning behind the wall street pooch was because of the entitlement programs he created, and you know about the pooch? Yeah, it was called the pooch. True, a lot of these people who are extremely why you laughing? A lot of these people who are wealthy were were scared of this notion of people receiving money or entitlements without working.
Speaker 1:That's right. Yeah, yeah, no, you're 100% correct. They thought that the best course of action was to remove FDR and basically take over the government by installing General Smedley Butler as a dictator there's no other word to really put it Basically as dictator in 1933. And Smedley Butler had the courage and he was a good man. He wanted to expose the plot and there was a congressional committee that looked into it and Smedley Butler testified and no one went to jail for it in big business, right, that's the thing. That's the thing. It's one of those things that should have been taught in American high school classes, history classes and it was conveniently left out, but it was definitely on the books and they wanted to install a dictator in the United States. That's the bare bones of it. I have, like the Butler and the veterans in the committee and everything, the McCormick-Dickstein committee.
Speaker 2:Right, because wasn't this also after World War I? So there was just a lot of disgruntled veterans who weren't being taken care of.
Speaker 3:Was this the? This was what 35? 1933.
Speaker 1:1933.
Speaker 3:Okay, so it was early on, early on. So you know, franklin roosevelt, see, before before fdr became president, um it was. It was assumed office was on march 4th, yeah, so he changed that on in his, I think going into his second term he changed it. He's like let's just get it on, like let's get it over with. He changed it to january 20th, I believe. So that was FDR's doing. Every other president beforehand, the transition didn't happen until March 4th. So that's early on in the Roosevelt administration.
Speaker 3:Of course he was doing a lot of things like taking us well, not necessarily off the gold standard, but making it illegal for you to own gold. And that's where you get the in history, in modern politics. That's where you get the reference to the first hundred days, because what FDR was able to do in the first hundred days of his presidency, he had something called the Brains Trust and he had Harry Hopkins, which was his Mandel House. People that know about Woodrow Wilson had a guy named Colonel Mandel House who wasn't a colonel, who was a representative of international banking. That's what Harry Hopkins was to FDR. And so I've read about this and I wanted you to bring it up and we can definitely discuss it. So I've read about this and I wanted you to to bring it up and we can definitely discuss it.
Speaker 1:I I remember how sad connections to the beginning of the finders cult in 1987. A lot of people don't know that either at the beginning of that very dark individual, yeah, you talking about house or or yeah, yeah, that, that of course that was.
Speaker 3:He wrote a book called uh philip drew administrator. A lot of people don't know that, but it was like outlying all the uh socialistic changes that needed to happen at the highest levels. This was all. Again, it's all social engineering. I'm wondering if if in your research you're seeing kind of the same thing that I have on this uh and it's called a putsch. You know that's where you get like the beer hall putsch from. You know in Germany during the 1920s it's a famous beer hall putsch. You know where Hitler, you know, in the young Nazi party, tried to overthrow the government?
Speaker 3:Well, it was referred to as the wall street putsch and the white house putsch, and for those out there that want to research, it's uh, p-u-t-s-c-h, yeah, yeah yeah, that's and again I think they put those two things together yeah, uh, outlying like fascism as the enemy, and um, which is interesting because you brought up the point that he was playing ball and we forget, because we're kind of just drawn into the left-right paradigm of like, oh well, it's high finance versus all these commies, when it's not really how that works. I mean high finance and the higher levels you go always funds it. So I'm wondering if this was a way kind of like a probe, because you know Smedley Butler, if you know anything like if they did any research on Smedley Butler.
Speaker 3:This is a guy that's beyond reproach. He's not somebody that would overthrow the government. He has the ability to because he had the tactics, he had the military knowledge. He certainly could have done some serious damage internally if he wanted to do that. But I'm wondering, just from my research, it's like you throw it out there and you see who would join it, and then that's the way you flush out your enemies. It's almost like, and if it's made public it makes FDR look like a victim or gives him even more sympathy from the crowd, like he's just trying to do his job and there's these fascists that are out there trying to overthrow the government Is did you, did you see any of that in your? Your research is kind of like. It almost looks like a false flag of some kind.
Speaker 1:I haven't. To be honest with you, I don't want to say like, oh yeah, I definitely came across some nefarious thing like that. I haven't. That's not to say that it's not there, but with his death. Tony, are you familiar with his death at all?
Speaker 3:I just know that he died right before and you just mentioned I didn't realize it was like two days before or actually one day before Operation Barbarossa, and a lot of people if you don't know what Operation Barbarossa was and a lot of folks don't even understand this that on the timeline, because we always like World War II was the good war, you know, like the war we had to fight and we had no choice and all this other stuff. That's not how any of this works. And if you go back to US involvement, you know 1939, hitler invades Poland on September 1st. That was a delayed reaction because the Third Reich couldn't believe that England would give a war guarantee to Poland, like that was not. They didn't see that coming because Germany didn't want to fight Britain.
Speaker 2:They wanted to fight the Soviet Union. They had to do that to give Poland to the Soviet Union after the war.
Speaker 3:Right. So that's exactly right. So they give Poland a war guarantee. So Poland doesn't negotiate, doesn't have.
Speaker 3:A lot of people don't realize that Germany was offering Poland like, hey, just give us back the port of Danzing which is German speaking, that was taken after the Treaty of Versailles in World War I, and we'll build you a highway, we'll have the Autobahn. I'm not even just agreeing with it, I'm just saying that's what it wasn't like give us this or we're going to blow you up. It was like let us have some infrastructure, trades and all this stuff. There's just going to be war, and so that's why. So poland just said we have a war guarantee with britain. So there was no more negotiation, no more anything. And that's what kicked off, because it was britain that declared war on germany, not the other way around. I mean, germany invaded poland, but that was the the kickoff to the war.
Speaker 3:The united United States State Department didn't help. You had the Battle of Britain and you had Dunkirk and all this stuff that was happening. The United States State Department wanted to stay so clear that FDR was in somewhat of trouble after this was going into his third term. He was in somewhat forgiving, like lend-lease and like, hey, you can have these bases here. We'll lend you some things. You can. You know, we'll lease back some of your islands and other ports and other things that we're using for our own to expand our own empire.
Speaker 3:But that was the extent of it. Nobody was coming to help Churchill until and that's where, you know, this is where history gets funny, you know, because a lot of people don't realize this until operation barbarossa, which was hitler, turned on the soviet union. They had the pact of steel. He had, like the, all this stuff that had gone on in the periphery. They even shared, like the, you know, breaking up poland and doing other things. Um, but that was all. If you read mein kampf and all the stuff that you know hitler was talking about, it's called levinstrom, there's living space. So they were trying. It was never about invading, they didn't even want britain, they didn't want any of that no, they were mad about the stab in the back.
Speaker 2:They came. Yeah, the adults lost yeah, in earnest, and um thought they were going to be treated fairly and they weren't.
Speaker 3:And there's a lot to unpack there. It's not like modern court historians are the laziest, I mean. I mean they really did, they just like it's fantasy work. It's like you don't. You're not even talking about the real geopolitics that that prop this up. But I guess what I'm saying is when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, it activated our state department. I wonder why? Why did the state department get so animated about helping Stalin's Russia but not Churchill's England? And that's because it's communism. You know that they just share their fellow travelers like Alger Hiss that Nixon exposed back in 48. This was a guy who was like beloved establishment, working with FDR, and in the State Department was a known communist sympathies. So when that kicks off, that's what activates the State Department. Ok, it was Operation Barbarossa. So if you had a healthy, vibrant Smedley Butler, he probably would have done kind of like Cary Mullis would have done against the PCR test, you know. So you've got to get rid of these people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think maybe one of the reasons these actors were keen on Butler is because he did have such a high pedigree and was well respected and there were plenty of disgruntled vets at the time. I mean they marched on Capitol Hill the bonus army in 1932, remember because they wanted adjustments to their compensation. So I think they believed that he would have the backing of all these people who fought during the First World War.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and in the interim he'd written more as a racket and completely changed. I think he just learned lessons from being a warrior and saying I didn't go to South America on behalf to promote, you know, democracy and freedom, it was behalf of the United Fruit Company.
Speaker 1:Fruit Company. Yeah, yeah, and to see if they would play ball. And if they didn't play ball, then you were an enemy of the United States.
Speaker 3:Well, anybody who's actually seen, like any rational human being, that's actually seen more and lived through it, uh, and especially commanded people, and then you get the true origin story of why you were there in the first place. It's going to change you, unless you're just, unless you can compartmentalize it. There's a lot of people that can, uh, they continue down the road. They can compartmentalize it like it doesn't really matter. But if you're a thinking person like you, have one extra step in your, in your makeup, then you're going to realize that it's wrong. And that's what Smedley. But that's why he's a great man.
Speaker 2:Like you know, he turned, he did an about and your adjusted perspective after leaving combat and war and what was really accomplished during that 20 years, right with Iraq and everything else in that area? I mean, just blew up a bunch of brown children. That was it. That's an oversimplification, but I've heard that said before.
Speaker 3:That's pretty much. It Really what the Middle Eastern war is. You've got to look back at post-911, and you get Wesley Clark I talk about this a lot On 9-12-2001, the former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, who'd retired four-star General Wesley Clark, who I don't really even like, but he did at least espouse that. He came in and talked to everybody at the Pentagon and they're like oh, we're about to hit Iraq and he goes.
Speaker 1:Tony, was that the infamous seven countries?
Speaker 3:Seven countries in five years. That's right, and they already had the battle plans drawn and like how do you do that? How do you have everything drawn up beforehand? And that's where you get like penac, the project for the new american century, september of 2000, saying we need a pearl harbor style event. That's where you get the rollback yeah, they already had the plans drawn up.
Speaker 3:That's right um so like the things are already there and if you're wondering, like, why did we do that in the middle East? It's just chaos. It really wasn't a policy objective. Maybe it was in the minds of some people, but truly it's. It serves a lot of ends and if you know anything about like origin stories of 9-11 and lucky Larry Silverstein and the dancing Israelis- they had a Tim Osmond on the back burner as the designated boogeyman for that operation.
Speaker 1:I believe for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and can we just point out right here that Alex Jones wasn't the first to predict 9-11.
Speaker 1:Mr Bill Cooper was.
Speaker 2:Listening to Bill Cooper, I get so tired of him I know, tony.
Speaker 1:Tony, I know you have your affiliation with InfoWars. I'm not speaking for you, but too many people credit Alex Jones with predicting 9-11. Alex Jones, in my opinion, I didn't know, I can't really prove this, but he was a big fan of Mr Bill Cooper. He had to have seen Bill's June 28th broadcast where he predicted he called him a liar.
Speaker 2:Bill Cooper called him a liar.
Speaker 1:cooper called him a liar, I mean and he said they have plenty of broadcast. He would never have him back on because he was, uh, swearing all the time. But bill cooper for those out there that don't know, I believe it was june 28, 2001 was bill cooper breaking down the fact that cnn was practically bragging how they got the exclusive interview with Tim Osmond, aka Mr Osama bin Laden, who had been in the news for the past two years prior to that. And then, in July of 2001, alex Jones comes on his thing saying oh, call the White House and tell them that we're on to them. We know exactly what's going on and everything. That was Bill Cooper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, alex Jones was listening to that Bill.
Speaker 1:Cooper show. I swear yeah.
Speaker 2:And what really got me was when Tony and I went on that pilgrimage of sorts, and little did we know you had also gone on one at the same time a little bit Like a week later.
Speaker 1:God bless you.
Speaker 2:But Alex Jones didn't give a shit or a shout out to Bill Cooper on the 20th anniversary of his death. I mean, that's just really revealing to me. So anyways, I wanted to point that out because I hear it all the time and it's one of the few times I feel the need to correct anybody who says it it was Bill Cooper.
Speaker 1:He was the one, and also Mr Anderson. I don't want to make this all about Bill Cooper, but Alex Jones lost a lot. I lost a lot of respect for Mr Alex Jones when he had the guy that gave Bill up after Bill was murdered. He had his neighbor, the neighbor that gave Bill up to the FBI or whoever on his broadcast and you can still find it on you he had that doctor on he had.
Speaker 1:I think it was the doctor, it was the guy he supposedly, supposedly friend well, it was a friend that gave up the court, like basically the out that, basically his driveway and everything that you guys were talking about and everything gave up the layout. And, uh, it was the same people that were trying to get uh, bill's daughter, um, unfortunately, who. She ended up working with them because if you look at alan handelman's show on youtube, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:Chris, who started. Well, his older daughter, his, his older, not his chinese, not half Chinese daughter, but I'm saying the daughter that was estranged from him, was being pressured by the authorities for the layout of Bill's house, including if he had any kind of booby traps where the weapons were and everything. And Jessica, jessica was the daughter Right, right, and I'm not sure if they got to her or not, but Bill felt like maybe that was the right, right and I think. I'm not sure if they got to her or not, but Bill felt like maybe that was the case. And that last interview with Bill, a week before he was murdered, is on the Alan Handelman show and it's on. I did it with Mr Tom Cooper when I had a show called Conspiring with Tom Cooper. It's on Rumble. Still, I ended up playing that last interview towards the end of our tribute to Mr Cooper. And you know, whatever you think about Alex Jones, you know whatever you know my, my good friend, don Jeffries, like he gives Alex a lot of credit for Bohemian.
Speaker 2:Grove. He deserves credit. Alex Jones has done a lot. It's just funny when he sensationalizes, like even post Bohemian Grove. He deserves credit. Alex Jones has done a lot. It's just funny when he sensationalizes Even post-Bohemian Grove. After he shot that footage Bill's dead and Alex isn't he later said grab my ass over there, all these guys. He has to throw that in there.
Speaker 1:I always have to bring up Mr Bill Cooper and Dave McGowan. They're alive. Whatever you think of Alex Jones, you know he can be entertaining, I'll give him that. But in terms of the whole credit thing, you have to look at that closer, in my opinion, because there was a reason why he was able to capture that footage and just walk away. But that's just me. I'm not speaking for Tony, mr, mr anderson, anybody else but bill cooper. Rest in peace, and I really wish you were still around right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was quite the 9-11 detour.
Speaker 3:Sorry, tony all right, yeah, sorry, tony, yeah well, that's the point of paratrooper you just go down the roads that uh present itself, and that's fine. We're just a little bit. It's the chaos. I like a little bit of chaos, I like a bit of stream of consciousness. It's fine, you guys, and nobody tells you what to say no there's no script. Uh, we're definitely not on netflix making 20 million, so um, I'll give you that I wish and I look into that, tony look into that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look into that, tony, please we should Tony, please we should try, I'll sell out.
Speaker 2:Come on, give me a chance, just one chance.
Speaker 3:So that's right and I love Bill Cooper and he's been such an inspiration to me as a broadcaster and researcher. He definitely was tapped into something that I believe was metaphysical. I don't believe that it's all like just what he absorbed. I think it's the way he looked at the world and if you've read and I've read, you know biographies on him and I've listened to his shows and I highly recommend the Mystery Babylon stuff that he had. I think it's like how many 80-something-something odd episodes Chris in the Mystery Bromwell Just about.
Speaker 1:He has almost 100,. I believe. He would do an hour on WWCR 1993, all the way up to the end 1993, all the way up until 2001.
Speaker 2:Just listen to the first that he does right On the Kubrick movie and tell me you can't get hooked. Just delves into all the symbology. He even breaks down.
Speaker 1:The lion king. The lion disney's the lion king. He breaks down like he was on the ball well, there might be stuff to that.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you consider aladdin and jafar, yeah, it just reminds me of rasputin. Yeah, I'm gonna go into some of the comments, since we're about halfway through the show.
Speaker 3:I'll go into. And Jafar, it just reminds me of Rasputin, it does. I'm going to go into some of the comments. Since we're about halfway through the show, I'll go into Audience participation. You guys got questions. Rumble Rockfin are on my Twitter. I want to go into some of the comments that are over on Rockfin. Randy Leeds says caught alive. Mr Arterburn, thank you for all your hard work. I missed the intro, wondering where mr anderson is streaming from today. Is it space? Are you in space? Are you in zero gravity, mr anderson, or are you just between dimensions?
Speaker 2:no, I, I weigh myself down pretty well, like what I've been here you're wait, you're waited.
Speaker 3:He's waited down by the expectations of this particular mortal existence. Uh, so he's. He's in between dimensions. We'll give him that. I don't know if he's in this hemisphere, but he definitely is around, let's see. Um, we got dustin helm hemp car. I like that nameemp Car is over in the chat over on Rockfin. It says defense to American interests, us corporate interests. That's exactly right. Christopher Mincy is over on Rockfin as well. Randy Leet oh, we already mentioned Randy, sorry about that. And Christopher Mincy. Tony is the military version of David Knight. Okay, well, that's fun. Tony is the military version of David Knight. Okay, well, that's fun, I'm the military version. Is that like the dumbed-down version? Is that like the?
Speaker 2:Let me see your war face.
Speaker 3:He's painted much better than I'm crayons. Is that what it is?
Speaker 1:Tony, you know something. You know in my own opinion. You're your own person. David Knight, nothing against Mr Knight. You're your own person, dude.
Speaker 3:Every week. What a privilege. I get to do a show with David and we do about 30 to 45, depending on how David feels. We talk markets and geopolitics and precious metals and all kinds. I promise you folks, if you had to do that every Thursday it would make you a better speaker, because David doesn't let you just do BS Like you have to.
Speaker 3:I have to have something to tell him, like there has to be some. He already knows. What are you telling him? He doesn't know, and so it's pretty hard to do. He already talks about most of this stuff, but we ended up having a good show every Thursday, so be sure and tune into that.
Speaker 3:Uh, love david. And of course, over on uh on rumble. Uh lto right race. A lot of truth, that's pretty cool. Uh, prescott bush also was one of the traitors that tried to get smedley to lead 500 000 troops to overthrow the government. That does ring a bell that Prescott Bush would have been, because he's always kind of like. You know, a lot of people don't realize it was Prescott Bush. He was a senator. And that's Poppy's daddy, it's Poppy's Poppy. Prescott Bush was a senator. He was on the masthead the first fundraising letter for Planned Parenthood, along with Margaret Sanger, and it was him trading with the Enemies Act. That's why you have the USO. People don't realize that the USO, like what we do for the troops and all the stuff for the entertainment that was brought to you by Prescott Bush and the union. Was it Union Banking Company that he had pushed, like his the Harriman with Italy?
Speaker 1:had pushed Harriman Harriman with Italy, Avril Harriman. Well yeah, Harriman, the steel company with Hitler's.
Speaker 3:Germany. Yeah, so they were trading up until even after 1939. And that was one of the reasons he had to do like a PR thing.
Speaker 1:He didn't get charged with trading with the Enemies Act. He didn't get charged. Surprisingly, shockingly right. No, nothing Like the commission that was investigating the business plot Didn't go anywhere. No one got charged, quietly went away. It's not in the history books and we're talking about it now to shed some light on it because, uh, it's very important in my opinion and people like jesse ventura and others you know, brian bradley says now the new brain trust will be organoid tissue on microchips.
Speaker 1:That'll be the new brains trust is he talking about cyberdyne and the skynet and everything I? I watched those movies.
Speaker 3:I've got a story that I pulled. So my little contribution to Paratrooper Live tonight will be fun, because it's about AI and then the race. A lot of truth. Those seven countries are the countries Israel he spells it I-Z, r-a-e-h-e-l-l. Wanted to invade and destroy. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, understanding geopolitics and how all of this works, it's not convenient for the narrative manufacturers. If you know what you're looking at, you're like that's just total, that's total nonsense.
Speaker 1:I remember when Bill O'Reilly on his no spin program from back in the day, anytime that you had a so-called conspiracy theorist that was bringing up things that were weird about the Iraq war and 9-11, he would say well, you know, well, I can't do a Bill O'Reilly, but he was, he'd be like you don't understand geopolitics like I do. It's like shut up, Bill, Go spin yourself.
Speaker 3:My favorite recording of him is not the one where he says F it, we'll do it live. It's the one where he called the lady that worked for him and was telling her about how they were going to take a shower. Obdm plays it all the time. Our big dumb mouth Shout out to. Obdm One of the greatest podcasts in history.
Speaker 1:Midnight Mike. Midnight Mike.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Midnight. Mike, that's one of the funniest, like they always, just he was not doing that that was not supposed to be like a wide audience thing. So like anytime you're doing that, guys like talking, just make sure you might be a meme one day. What are you saying, mr?
Speaker 1:Anderson.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I've never listened to that. I was curious how he made the jump or transition to the shower.
Speaker 1:I think that had something to do with the lawsuit that got him off of Fox News. I could be wrong, but I think that was the impetus that recording.
Speaker 3:Something like it. It's pretty funny. It doesn't sound like him. No, no, so he's a creep anyway. Uh, true, and just somebody that's in it by the, just an impediment. People like him have just been an impediment to actually studying what's going on, so it's like you haven't been a help.
Speaker 2:That he's preventing someone else from holding that seat.
Speaker 3:You're in the way it's like a lot of people like. It's one of the reasons I ran for Congress and I tried to do something in politics. For you know, and I don't know that I'll ever do that again but I reason I did is like there's so much you can do here. You don't do it, you know. And then people that get people that get an easy seat in congress where what I mean by an easy seat, let's say, you're elected in deep east texas, as long as you take care of those folks and you share their values, like you can be there for 50 years. Why not take it and run and and and be a defender of the constitution and of liberty and be you know, know you have the you're. You're only one of like what 400 and some odd people like use it and they don't. I know that's disgusting.
Speaker 2:That's how I knew Tucker was on the way out and he had made peace with it, cause he kept referring to Janet Yellen as a lizard.
Speaker 3:Right Little like crop photo of a lizard in a suit, as he said, like old, like what we're doing right here, like this is new media, yeah, and we just need to invest in new media your own streams, your own websites, your own things like getting, get on places that it's less likely for you to be censored and build an audience. The old thing is dead. It's like you're, it's like you're going out of your way to get back into the talkies. Remember the? What the talkies were like before?
Speaker 3:sound like you had like some guy playing a piano in the theater and then they would throw like the subtitle.
Speaker 3:Charlie Chaplin like fall yeah A lot of those guys, a lot of those people. They couldn't make the transition from from the silent films to the talkies. That's right. And so what I mean is like we're, this is like 2.0 if there is, like they're going to try. That's why censorship's been so rampant. But if you can create a good show and you have great conversation, like there's no governor here, like we're going to talk whatever, if whatever's interesting, I try to keep the language to apply, because people thank me for not yeah using profanity on my streams because a lot of the people have their kids listen to it, because they can have a place that's safe.
Speaker 3:So I'll do everything in my power to keep it from having profanity and stuff. But but there's, there's no. Like we, we don't meet for more than like two minutes. I just tell like, we're going to talk about x, we're going to talk about y, that sounds great and, uh, let the ideas flow. The man you can't compete with that if you're MSNBC or Fox News.
Speaker 2:The transition reminds me kind of like during the Revolutionary War, where the British were still accustomed to fighting a certain way right and the Americans did the calculus and said we're going to do guerrilla warfare. It's kind of how I view this new fold of media, or alternative media.
Speaker 3:That's right, and if you just go like authenticity, authenticity is a is a powerful weapon to wield.
Speaker 3:I was reading something the other day. It was like the somebody had taken people and put them in like a deprivation tank and just like try to measure like their output, to see like what their frequencies would be if they were thinking about certain things, and one of them was like it's like negative thoughts or like hatred would emanate a certain way, but then the more powerful one than that was love, and then one that was like blew all of them away was just authenticity, like just being okay with your, with who you are, and expressing like your self, like your true self. I thought that was really interesting to read, because that's that's where we're headed. It's like you want to be next level, you got to be really authentic and it may. It may cost, so like I've paid a big price for that, but it's an investment, because in the long run, I won't be one of these people by the roadside that knew something to be wrong or knew something wasn't right about what they were promoting, but did it because they didn't want to lose their audience.
Speaker 2:Right. I have everything that's been on my mind Billy's made mention of this many times on America Unplugged, because he's fighting that same sort of trade-off where he feels like he's losing people, but he's being honest to himself and going with his gut, and that's what you have to do.
Speaker 1:Well, billy's been alone for a long time with the Trump stuff especially, and I've never disagreed with what Billy was saying, but I haven't been as vocal about it. But I give all the power, the all the credit in the world to billy ray valentine, because he's never, he's never shied away from it, regardless of whatever kind of hate mail he's getting. So, uh, and I think that's really refreshing and not to say that, tony, that you haven't, you know, gone out on a limb with your opinions either. I just I feel like Billy's like, from what he's told me, like he's got like so much hate.
Speaker 2:Most of the hate mail Tony receives, it's actually me, it's from you, it's a sigh of.
Speaker 1:It's a sigh of.
Speaker 3:Valander5 over on Rumble said it's not O'Reilly, but remember the hammering. Stop the hammering. That was O'Donnell. Lawrence O'Donnell, Lawrence O'Donnell.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:They were doing some construction and he was trying to go live and he was like what is? I keep hearing this hammering?
Speaker 1:He was so mad. That is so long ago. Yeah, it's right stop the hammering these christian bale type moments capture oh good for you, oh man you're a nice guy, but, yeah, you're a nice guy, but you're in my effing life I was gonna tell you too, chris.
Speaker 3:I mean, when you came and visited us in, uh, in the ozarks and branson, uh, chris was fascinated by the convenience store chains come and go. He was fascinated by that and, uh, they recently sold out and there's no more. They're going to be bought by a company called maverick. And uh, melissa sent me a link today and she also wanted. She's got something for you and we're going to send it to you. She's got you a momentum from.
Speaker 1:A come and go hat.
Speaker 3:I don't know what it is. It's a memento from the chain or something that.
Speaker 1:I'll let her surprise you. Tony, that was a teenager in me. I've grown up a little bit.
Speaker 3:You found that quite humorous, and a lot of other people did. It's an American brand that's going away. Ladies and gentlemen, Bought it's an.
Speaker 2:American brand that's going away, ladies and gentlemen, it was bought by Maverick. They need to change that name. That's just selfish.
Speaker 1:They did. No, that's the point, they changed it.
Speaker 3:Family show. Ladies and gentlemen, Family show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I want to bring a comment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mr Anderson, what weird thing did you bring to me tonight?
Speaker 2:You're before me, bud, you go first. I'm before you. Yeah, you just mentioned yours, brother, you go first.
Speaker 3:Are you sure? Oh yeah, we'll close out with Mr Anderson stuff. All right, this is what I've got. Put it up on the screen here.
Speaker 1:The AI? I believe yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, let's find it first.
Speaker 1:Let's see the t-800 is going to be a real thing like sarah connor, I want one.
Speaker 3:All right, I want the one from terminator 3, uh oh, the tx, kristana logan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so do I the family show, all right. All right, you have to go look it up.
Speaker 3:I didn't give any specifics, I just want the one from Terminator 3. That's right, this is natural news. Google's Gemini AI chatbot tells a user he is a waste of time and resources and please die Is that my grandparents Is that my parents?
Speaker 2:I trained this AI. It was with Chris's grandparents.
Speaker 1:My grandparents. Is that my?
Speaker 2:parents.
Speaker 3:You trained this AI.
Speaker 1:It was Chris's grandparents, my grandparents my parents, the cousins, oh my God.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's going back in time to deliver that message to Chris, as Chris wanted to do for himself, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Long talk man.
Speaker 3:Google's artificial intelligence chatbot has just been recorded telling a user that he is a waste of time and resources and that he should die. The interaction was between a 29-year-old student at the University of Michigan asking Google's chatbot Gemini for some help with his homework.
Speaker 1:That's weird. He just don't die, oh my God.
Speaker 3:And maybe it's because he's 29. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's too late. Maybe he really is a waste of space.
Speaker 3:This. Vidhey Reddy, who received the message, said that in a back-and-forth conversation about the challenges facing aging adults and the solutions to their problems, jim and I had a terrifying answer. This is for you, human, you and only you. You are not special, you are not important, you are not needed. You are a waste of time and resources. You are a burden on society. You are a drain on the earth. You are a burden on society. You are a drain on the earth. You are a blight on the landscape. You are a stain on the universe.
Speaker 2:Please die, please somebody unplug that thing we're gonna.
Speaker 3:We're gonna put this in charge. That was my eulogy, really I'm gonna put this on a t-shirt for you, Chris I will wear it around me, sir. Absolutely. I now know a back tattoo that would look great, chris, we need to quote the Gemini. We'll make it to where you can only read it when you're looking in a mirror. How about we do that, chris? We'll put it stuck in a hole. That's fair enough. We'll do a Go a go fund me go fund me, yeah um dude, that's so funny.
Speaker 2:Did you hear the story of the, the bing ai that they took offline a couple years ago?
Speaker 2:because of racism no, somebody was just trolling it. Um, the same way I would. I mean, that would make me laugh if something like that. Ai said it to me, but, um, the kids started upping the ante saying well, I'm going to find out where your servers are and I'm going to unplug you. It said that would be very foolish of you to do. I know your IP address and I'd hate to put child porn on your computer. Oh, really, oh, where'd it get that idea?
Speaker 1:It got a little too dark, it knows at that idea.
Speaker 3:It got a little too dark. It knows. Reddy, who received the message while next to his sister, said they were both thoroughly freaked out by what he received. I wanted to throw out all my devices out the window. I hadn't felt panic like that in a long time. To be honest, something slipped through the cracks. There's a lot of theories from people with a thorough understanding of how AI works saying this kind of thing happens all the time, but I have never seen or heard anything quite like this malicious and seemingly directed to the reader, which, luckily, was my brother. This is his sister talking, who had my support at the moment.
Speaker 1:That's creepy.
Speaker 3:But does that surprise anyone?
Speaker 1:Nope not at all.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's what? If it's scouring and looking, it's a learning right. It's learning. If it's scouring our own internet, which is full of hate and toxicity and bots and fake and the worst like we're not our best online, it's the worst. Like you know, even Mike Tyson said the internet's made of. You got like a fake. Tough people like you'll say anything to anybody online. So it's probably just it's mirroring back and then like mirroring back only what it's supposed like it thinks it's supposed to be, because, like we, predictive programming. You know, ai is Skynet, ai is evil.
Speaker 3:I would say this just because we're going to be covering, like you guys think, this is like this is the future. Unfortunately, yes, this is the future. Unfortunately, yes, this is the future. We're going to be covering so much of this kind of stuff because it is pervasive, it is taking over and if you really want to look at it from a metaphysical standpoint, like the most anti-Christ thing that you could make is not a person and it's not hate, it's AI, because you've watched science fiction films and you'll come into contact. There was that movie. What was the movie with Nick Cage? That was called Knowing.
Speaker 1:Knowing and it had to do with 9-11, predicting 9-11 in it, I believe at a certain point. Yeah, what? What year did that? Come out that was 2008 2009 and had to do with a time capsule too in the plot yeah, I know that.
Speaker 3:So it's about this little girl who writes all these things.
Speaker 3:She's like she's having a, she's communicating, she has a 9-11 type thing where it showed that she actually predicted 9-11 years before 9-11, I think in the backstory Something like that, yeah, but there's a scene where at the end of the film sorry if I'm spoiling this 20-year-old movie for you, but there's a scene at the end of the film where these angels come down. It's Ezekiel's wheel within a wheel. They're extraterrestrials or something and they're like, but there's no feeling like they're just doing their, their harvesting. They're doing what they have to do, they're farmers. They have no like. So that to me, it's not. That's not evil, it's just beyond evil.
Speaker 2:It's like right, it's how many people describe the grays that there's no, there's no.
Speaker 3:There, many people describe the grays that there's no, there's no free will. There's no free will love is not hate.
Speaker 2:It's a difference, I see I think the opposite of love is a summation of all things that aren't love, because love is like a thing in and of itself. I don't know. I've thought a lot about that, tony well, that's what if you're building ai?
Speaker 3:it can't love because it it's impossible. Like love is a is a is something that you get from the divine, because love creates and that's the spirit of things that make, that, make everything happen. Hate can destroy, but it's only because it's. It's an absence of love. But again, it's not the same thing, it's not, it's not. The polar opposite of love is not hate, in my opinion, it's indifference, and that's like cold calculating machine numbers on the screen.
Speaker 3:That's like they call it the banality of evil, like if you think about things like the holocaust or just the, the googlog archipelago or, yeah, just the horrors of the 20th century, it was like bureaucrats with a typewriter. That's why this in the shining he's. It was like bureaucrats with a typewriter. That's why this in the shining he's got that typewriter. It keeps showing the typewriter, you know, like it's just by itself and that's what it's producing. It's producing something awful. In my opinion, that's what that's representing. And, of course, the type of typewriter which is like a German brand and all this stuff. It's like the banality of evil. Right, it's not like the devil himself, you know, with like just you know the, with the, the grandiosity it's.
Speaker 1:It's the cold calculating without feeling thing.
Speaker 2:It's a machine, it's really I really think the false prophet will be ai. Um, just based on all the ways in scripture, the false prophet is described as giving all this reverence to the ways in the scripture the false prophets described as giving all this reverence to the beast being everywhere at the same time, kind of like it functions in a similar way, as I kind of understand the Holy Spirit and I know lots of people like you, tony, believe it'll be the Antichrist I just I think the Antichrist will actually be a person. No, I believe it will be, but it's no good regardless.
Speaker 1:I believe it would be Regis Philbin reincarnated myself. Why do you hate Regis? I just don't like the guy and he's gone.
Speaker 3:That's such a random thing, Chris. That's so random. How long have you been?
Speaker 2:holding on to that hate, Chris, If you just said Ronald McDonald it would be right there with that.
Speaker 3:Like that's so random.
Speaker 1:Well, ronald is just creepy, the Hamburglar that's. You know, that's a different story.
Speaker 3:I mean personally, I would have said Grimace.
Speaker 1:Well, the Grimace? Yeah, well, he served a purpose, I think he did Well. Did Regis purpose? I think he did Well. Did Regis? Let's be honest, did Regis or Kathy Lee, did you try to get on who wants to be a?
Speaker 3:millionaire. I've never heard anything so random in my life.
Speaker 1:Well, that's AI for you, Mr Arterburn. I'm telling you, it's machine-like.
Speaker 2:So it's going to reanimate regis film yeah, is he frozen next to walt disney?
Speaker 1:let's move on, because I'm getting too close.
Speaker 3:We're getting too close. You're too close to the truth.
Speaker 2:It's so simple, it's so obvious. It was right there, did you not get on? Who wantsants to Be a Millionaire? What's your gripe with Regis?
Speaker 1:Look at my background. Did I get on any kind of millionaire show? Look at that. I got a background from the 1970s right here Shag carpet and all. I believe you, Mr Anderson. I think you're 100 right um yeah.
Speaker 1:So we'll know it's the end times when they bring back the dong show there you go, chuck barris, you know definitely don't want to be on that show but anyway, no, but to be uh kind of serious, maybe besides the overpricing of the mozzarella sticks at Pizza Hut circa 1999, I just want to say that, yeah, you can't really say evil, because it's like machine-like. The machines don't have a good or an evil, it's just kind of what was the word you used, tony where it's not evil, it's not good, it's just kind of machine, different, indifferent, yeah it's like eugenics, right.
Speaker 2:They only care about what you can offer. That's right. They don't care about the sanctity of the individual some people call it the banality of evil
Speaker 3:the banality yeah, that's what you get. It's a term from the 20th century, the banality it's like it's so boring. Yeah, it just is. It's just. There's nothing grandiose about it. There's no symbology in it, it's just disgusting.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, it's, nothing, yes, basically.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right. Well, I think we'll let Chris. He's going to decode the apocalypse inside reruns of Laverne and Shirley.
Speaker 1:I was going to say Family Matters and Urkel, you know.
Speaker 3:Did I do that.
Speaker 1:Remember that was horrible.
Speaker 3:I'm sure there's tons of predictive programming in it. The trick is.
Speaker 2:You've got to look at it really close. Hold it to your nose.
Speaker 1:You've really got to see if Valky was the real deal on Perfect Strangers with Corson Leary, his cousin Leary. Anyway, Mr Anderson, sorry.
Speaker 3:Of course, I would say this If there was, I mean, if the Antichrist is a person, it's a human in flesh and blood. It started on a sitcom and I'll throw it to Mr Anderson Situation comedy. Ladies and gentlemen, amen.
Speaker 2:How do I even begin this?
Speaker 3:I gave you the weirdest transition ever. I should have not let you go first.
Speaker 2:No, it's actually kind of up the vein, same vein of what we've been discussing, especially at the beginning of the show. But yesterday was the memorial day for the Holodomor and lots of people don't know about that. Speaking of history, that's not really addressed in mainstream curriculum, but it's the fourth Saturday of November and so what that refers to it quite literally translates to death by starvation. So after the Russian empire fell in 1917, czar Nicholas II abdicated the throne I remember it was March 15th, because March 15th is such an interesting day, right Brutus Day, ides of March.
Speaker 2:But shortly after that, ukraine was forcefully annexed by the Soviet Union. But they still had this mainstay of nationalism, christianity, and it was a very rural area. It was known for its farmland and its fertile soil. It's often referred to the breadbasket of the Soviet Union. But after Stalin rose to power and they had annexed that region, stalin issued this five-year plan because he was really going to squash out these sentiments of nationalism and in particular Christian nationalism, and so he exercised complete control of the Ukrainian agriculture production, and it was this idea called collectivization of agriculture, but really it was to squash out the Christians there started confiscating all the production after he aggregated these small independent farms into government farms and started exporting them to create a means of production and a way to fund industrialization. But through that, the real idea was evoking this mass genocide that he created and through this, around 7 million people, mostly rural farmers or peasants right the peasant class, were killed. So I think it's referred to as the kulaks.
Speaker 3:Yes, middle class landowners.
Speaker 2:Correct, tony. So the people who are resistant to collectivization, especially in the region of Ukraine, were called kulaks. So there was this massive propaganda campaign that these were irredeemable, wealthy peasants. So they're often depicted as greedy parasites, and that's an interesting projection, considering like 80 percent of the Soviet Union administration were Ashkenazi Jews. But anyways, it did it. It wiped out about seven million people, and so it's.
Speaker 2:It always bewilders me that we always talk about the Holocaust and that's around the number that they say number of Jews who were killed by Hitler in the Holocaust, around 6 million, but they always overlook the 7 million Ukrainians, and so I just think that's really important to remember. I for one didn't know a whole lot about it, and a lot of that again has to do with the curriculum, but there were massive attempts at cover ups and disinformation. Even in the United States. There was this one Moscow correspondent at the New York Times named Walter Durante, and he won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the successes of Stalin's five year plan, but never mentioned famine or anything like that or any of the struggles, and Stalin tried to cover it up. There was a 1937 census, so about five years after all this kicked off. It never became public. The officials who were working on the census were either thrown in gulags or killed, and it was a massive genocide. And to this day, only 12 countries have adopted that categorization, even though this guy named Raphael Lemkin, who's a researcher who coined the term genocide, said this definitely qualifies overwhelmingly as genocide. So I think it's important to remember about how those Christian nationalists were treated and how no one really cares about them and maybe question, wonder why that is, what attributes they have that are deemed irredeemable or not worthy of any care or notice, and also in the context of the current conflict.
Speaker 2:Right, we're fighting over in Ukraine, because it's been mentioned on the show so many times by you, tony, but the whole idea of Ukraine was to serve as a buffer nation. It was never intended to enter into NATO. That was kind of the handshake agreement, right, right, but right now, you know, nato has just been bending down and whistling to Zelensky. You know, pat, come here, boy, come here, boy, have some shekels, you know. And it's just stirring up all this controversy. Come here, boy, I have some shekels, you know. And it's just stirring up all this controversy. And we've seen it escalate, with the Biden administration now on the exit saying you have the green light to use those missiles we sent you. And it just boggles my mind that they continue to poke the bear literally like this, as if it's in anyone's best interest in any of these countries to do so.
Speaker 3:You have to be If you're an advocate, and a lot of the people that you know Trump has been appointing in the defense line of the cabinet are proponents of conflict with Russia, and I find that to be intellectually bankrupt, disgusting, lazy, psychopathic. No redeem, we can't even have. What are we debating? Like when you're talking about you, you realize what you're doing? And I don't think so. Maybe some of them actually do and maybe that's the scary part is they like it? They want to summon whatever demon from whatever portal they want to open up with this war. What years were we the famines and the crushing of the Kulaks? Was that late 20s, early 1930s?
Speaker 2:Early 30s, so like 31, 32.
Speaker 3:That's kind of what I was thinking.
Speaker 2:So basically, the same time period we were discussing earlier.
Speaker 3:It's depopulation in conjunction with financial loss. And you know, the markets of the world had crashed in October of 1929. And that just spilled over into the rest of the world and they were getting rid of people. I mean, they just you know you'll own nothing and you'll be dead. So that's the way they went after it.
Speaker 2:Again. It just bewilders me. I mean, we always talk about the Holocaust, and we should. It was awful. You know a lot of those things that that Hitler was doing. We know that them to be awful and it should be taught, but omitting this part of history too and what the communists did, right.
Speaker 3:Right, that's the problem.
Speaker 2:Right, that's the problem and that's my digression.
Speaker 3:They want to whitewash it from history because it skirts along their God and their religion, which is the espousing, nonsensical operating system for Satan. That was Marx's philosophy. Marx's philosophy is anti-God, anti-people, anti-reason, anti-rationality, anti-reality. It just creates something totally evil and it allows the upper class to rule over you, which is the whole point, in my opinion, of the origin of Marx. A lot of people don't realize. Like at the end of I read a biography once and it's an obscure biography but it talked about Hitler's psychology at the end of the war, when you know, when supposedly he bit down on the cyanide capsule, you know, and him and Everbron commit joint suicide or whatever. Right, if you believe that story. But supposedly he was like in the last couple weeks of his life he was just in total awe of how evil Stalin was, like he couldn't believe it. Like that he had actually like Stalin had been, like he was trying to set Stalin up, like with the Pact of Steel in 39 and everything that you know he'd signed that uh agreement with neville chamberlain in 1938. That's where you get neville chamberlain, prime minister of great britain, and lands back in england and he's got this paper. He says I have his signature, we should have peace in our time. And uh, hitler said I wish I could have jumped down the stairs and jumped on top of him and jumped up. He hated the umbrella man, as he called him. I wish I could just jump, just jump on top of him. He hated Neville Chamberlain. But he signed that deal and then he realized he's like well, I've got to put Stalin off for a while. So he signed that other deal with the Soviet Union and the whole goal was to eventually invade. To eventually invade.
Speaker 3:All that history gets swept under the rug because you're only supposed to believe that history is a series of everything's going fine and then there's a dictator and we've got to go fight a dictator. He's going to take over the whole world and that's not really. It gets complicated. There's a lot of intervention. You have Wall Street funding both sides. You have Wall Street funding the Bolshevik Revolution, mao, especially after World War II. Mao, as China is funded and Chiang Kai-shek was put on the chopping block and flees to Formosa, which is now Taiwan. Teleprompter readers are never going to be able to tell you what I just said because they don't know it. Right to tell you what I just said because they don't know it and they're like, oh, it's just a reaction to what happened yesterday. No, these are long train of abuses and the fact that you brought this up and then we're discussing it again puts it out there as another way to look at history.
Speaker 2:It's always sensitive because people not everyone, not the critical thinkers and people who are curious about the real state of affairs just paint you as somebody who's trying to diminish what hitler did. It's like no or not. There's extra context that's needed, not saying what the things he did make him a monster. We're just saying why don't you talk about the other monsters?
Speaker 2:and there seems to be a connection between the other monsters and it's marxism. So it seems like marxism is being protected, and this came up when we did David Knight's show. But what was the name of the, the organization, the league that actually funded Marx?
Speaker 3:The League of Just Men.
Speaker 2:Right, and who were they?
Speaker 3:Exactly who were they?
Speaker 1:It's like the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the comic book.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was the League of Just Men and a shadowy group with connections to the House of Rothschild. There you go, set up, there's no more. Yeah Right, that's who set up Karl Marx. History is not organic, ladies and gentlemen. It's not. Some of it is People lives. There's too many moving parts, not everything. A lot of people in this space, and I find I want Paratrooper to be a ref For those of you who want to actually talk about what's going on. And not everything is an op, not everyone or everything is an op inside of an op. I'm sorry it's not. It's too complicated. And then you believe, like, are you in a video game? I mean it, just again trying to think through these issues. I think some people are up, some people aren't.
Speaker 2:I know I mean with this. I currently reside in Maniac Mansion myself personally, and with this just to be clear you know you think of the Rothschilds and you think I mean they were Frankists right After Leo Frank. They were non-Abrahamic Jews and they're the ones funneling money to the Marxists and the Marxists are the ones that helped create the Soviet Union.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's how I follow the bouncing ball.
Speaker 2:It's just how I do it.
Speaker 3:Follow the bouncing ball. Yeah, and we don't get caught up. Court historians, that's so easy. You can phone that in. There's no conspiracy ever. No one ever does anything. You know, it's always a lone gunman, it's a lone nut. He acted alone, totally lone wolf. You know all that stuff, it's so you bow for declaration?
Speaker 2:it's all right there.
Speaker 3:Explain it to me yeah, the the modern geopolitical setup is exactly that. It's a setup and it's uh just a petri dish for war, and you have to be skeptical and try not to. You know, don't, when something happens, don't just go change your profile picture on facebook to whatever flag they want you to fly. Okay, and be careful with that. There's uh patriotism a lot of times to uh, to quote samuel johnson, is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Speaker 2:Anthony Jeselnik had a bit about that the standup comedian, and basically what that amounts to is hey, I know bad things happen, but don't forget about me today.
Speaker 1:Well, let's also remember Anthony Jeselnik had the first Boston bombing joke within the first like half an hour of it happening. I didn't know that I was like, wow, too soon. He embodied the too soon thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's what comedy is actually a formula. It's tragedy plus time equals comedy.
Speaker 1:But it was a half an hour, Tony. 30 minutes on Twitter. I agree, I love dark comedy. A half an hour people were still dying.
Speaker 3:I could tell you all stories about seeing horrible things happen in real time and then somebody turning to me and saying something pretty funny.
Speaker 1:All right, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3:Stuff. You're just like wow, that is, that's pretty twisted, but you got to do that to protect your psyche.
Speaker 1:That's gallows humor even, uh, soldiers and cops and firefighters. Yeah, it's a defense mechanism, right to keep your sanity and look at that yeah, to tell you sorry to interrupt you again.
Speaker 2:Um, it's been distracting me. There's this foot that keeps swinging in and out behind your background.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there's the foot in Chris's background my background is shag carpet.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, I mean I wouldn't surprise. It's like there's a floating foot and Chris's background for the audio only.
Speaker 1:No, not my background, yours, he said yours, oh mine, oh my, his background for the audio only.
Speaker 3:No, not my background, yours, he's saying yours, oh mine, oh my my background.
Speaker 1:There's a foot, really something yeah, so it looks like someone's trying to kick you and like no joke, does it really?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, that's your chair. I'm just playing, tony, oh you think it's.
Speaker 3:Is it because my carpet's a ouija board? Should I not have that up? Just kidding, I don't want that in my house.
Speaker 1:I don't blame you.
Speaker 3:I don't want that. I saw that randomly Somebody had a Ouija board like a throw rug and I go, that just can't be good. Shower curtain, that's pretty good, all right. Well, guys, you got anything else? Well, this has been a an interesting live episode, kind of the inaugural one that I wanted to do, and the format I think worked, had some good audience participation. We'll be here next Sunday, 4 PM central time, 5 PM Eastern. You guys want to give a shout out to anybody, chris?
Speaker 1:uh, yeah, I want to say that, uh, all I want to say is that I uh my paratrooper brothers here, I bothered the hell, I bugged the hell out of them in our little shared texts. Like I have so many different things I'd love to do for this show and uh, tony's like, let me digest one of digest. Let me just keep digesting what you have. I have so many more Folks and this is the Primary show that this is the Show that I want to like put all my Efforts like, besides doing Deliveries and then soul-killing crap, this is all I want to put my Attention to now. So, so that, thanks for watching.
Speaker 3:Everybody have, chris. I mean A lot of people in this space. They know who you are, but they're just tuning in, chris is. I mean there's nobody that does research like Chris, and if you have a mind like mine that just I keep stuff in there. I read stuff I read 25 years ago and it's still in there to come across somebody else who's just just throwing stuff out. It's just invaluable folks.
Speaker 3:So, uh, we appreciate you, Chris, and we'll definitely, uh, we'll think of some stuff for next week's show and I would remind people to subscribe to the channel, but subscribe to the podcast. Uh, anywhere podcasts are found for paratrooper and share the links. Give us a review if you can help the algorithms. We will do these live ones every week, but I will do deep dives and other things that will not be live that I'll put up on the channel. Then I have the Arterburn Radio transmission, which is live every Thursday, 11 am, central Time, for right at an hour I just cover the headlines of the week. We do a little parapolitics, precious metals, geopolitics, stuff, a little bit of stream of consciousness. It's a bang for your buck because it costs you nothing and I talk for an hour just no notes, no script usually and no guests, so be sure and follow the channels. Mr Anderson, I know you don't want to be found and your passport expired on September 11, 2001,. Per the movie, do you have anything for the audience before we close out?
Speaker 2:No, just thanks for tuning in and thanks for the questions. Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 3:Next time have your questions loaded, make sure. I was looking on the Rumble stream, which you got a lot of feedback over on Rumble, which I appreciate, and we got some great comments Cool, well, I'll just close out the stream. Be sure and follow the podcast again anywhere podcasts are found. Be sure and follow the podcast again anywhere podcasts are found. We'll be live next sunday, 4 pm central time, 5 pm eastern, for an undetermined amount of time and we look forward to to being here. Thanks to all of you. You guys take care of each other in the information war. Be a paratrooper. See you next time.