Episode 24: Tangents 4: The Search for Tangents 3

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Welcome to episode 24 shivers, Hebrews the Jewish fermenting podcast. We're hope to discuss all things, home brewing and fermenting from a Jewish perspective today, we've got another tangents episode by now. You should know the drill. These have been some of our most popular episodes. And we'd love that you are downloading it more than almost anything else. today as we've got some more tangents, obviously, and a few extra facts, one of mine is that recently I learned from the Ken Jennings, trivia podcast, omnibus about the presidential fitness test, which even though I have worked out every day for more than a year, I'm almost certain I would still fail. If that brings back, K through 12 PE memories. I'm sorry. and the fun fact from Alison this time is the I was pooping. They're sleeping. The two biggest threats to their population Our deforestation and chlamydia. anyone who's also seen John Oliver knows that he has a koala chlamydia award named after him. In Australia. And with that onto the tangents.

Alison 1:06

I haven't ever seen blazing saddles high note. I am a notoriously bad at watching movies. No people don't, as a general rule, want to watch movies with me unless I have something to do with my hands or something. I have taken up needle point. That's been a big one for me, but like, I'm not very good at watching movies. I'm like bad at watching movies. I will heckle. I will be fidgeting. I'm I'm bad at it. Episodes of TV shows are like my limit and they're cutting it close. I'm usually doing something else while I'm watching those.

Evan 1:42

so I would recommend you try watching plays in saddles.

Alison 1:46

I mean, it's a famous one. I would just, I mean, I think in terms of like level of speed for Mel Brooks movies, that I can stick with a history of the world's part one

Evan 2:01

Because that's all, you know, they're making history, the world part two,

Alison 2:05

very excited.

Evan 2:06

so excited. I'm so excited for that movie. I just finished listening to his memoir, which is titled all about me. Exclamation point.

Alison 2:16

It's not titled June space.

Evan 2:18

No, it's not quite titled Jews. June space.

Alison 2:21

Lame.

Evan 2:22

No, it's all about me. And it's wonderful.

Alison 2:27

I mean, I'm here for that, but also,

Evan 2:29

It drew and space would have been another great title. unfortunately the Judah Dota space was William Shatner, not him.

Alison 2:36

yeah. Oh, well,

Evan 2:40

yeah. but oh, it's such a good book and it is, I mean, there are a ton of people in that book he talks about was like, oh, he's name dropping. But it's like, no, it's very clear. He was a huge friend to these. These people were his close friends and every time he mentioned gene Wilder or Carl Reiner, Sid Caesar, it's like, oh no, yeah, those are big names. But then he's not mentioning them to sound like they're like, he's big and fancy. It's like, no, these were his close friends who, who he misses, especially when he mentioned. And bay crawfish is now departed wife.

Alison 3:17

Yeah,

Evan 3:18

Um, but that's from its strengths and not just Melbourne.

Alison 3:22

I'm sure we'll find another way to come in somewhere.

Evan 3:26

I mean, he is a wine fan, apparently

Alison 3:29

You too.

Evan 3:33

for Jews in space. We're flying around for testing the Hebrew

Alison 3:39

Oh, I conic really iconic, also iconic. So your name is count the money counting, counting the money iconic.

Evan 3:54

that's such all of his movies are great history where the world part one is very underrated.

Alison 3:59

Oh yeah,

Evan 4:01

Um, I thought I would probably put it as maybe my third favorite because I just such a big fan of blazing saddles in the pretty.

Alison 4:08

the producers is, I mean, it's the producers.

Evan 4:12

Yes, especially both versions are good. I prefer the original,

Alison 4:16

Yeah. Well that's the producers. I mean,

Evan 4:19

I mean, you get the combination of zero Mostel and gene Wilder or Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, your heart. You've got to try to mess those up.

Alison 4:29

yes. Yes. Ah,

Evan 4:32

Yeah. Do you know, Mel Brooks is only an Ostrow Melbourne. Theoretically could be a triple a, you got, if you had another two Oscars,

Alison 4:43

Oh, my God.

Evan 4:46

he's got,

Alison 4:47

That is pretty impressive.

Evan 4:49

he's got two. He's got three Tony's that's that's most limiting.

Alison 4:53

Yeah. That's wild. Only three Tony's.

Evan 4:57

three Tonys. And I don't know how many he's done a ton of Emmy's because he's Mel Brooks and he wrote for TV for forever.

Alison 5:07

Yeah, man did not realize that that's fun.

Evan 5:13

Exactly. Uh, but they're not made mid strength in his movies.

Alison 5:17

No, I wouldn't know what his bacon number is.

Evan 5:21

ah, I don't think he's ever published any bacon. He'll have a bacon number. He won't have an overdose number though. Um, he also will have a Sabbath number,

Alison 5:32

Yes.

Evan 5:34

which is a tangent that I did include in one of our tangent episodes.

Alison 5:39

I can't find it.

Evan 5:41

though. Interesting, because this is definitely going in another tangent episode, tangent, I almost named tangents too. I tangent the tangent. The second tangents episode name was a play on Mel Brooks because there's was tangents to the search for more tangents, or, or something like that. Um, uh, but

Alison 5:59

could've called it. tangents to the mighty ducks after one of my all-time favorite movies.

Evan 6:05

that would have been good, but I just finished the Mel Brooks memoir. So that's why I named that. I could've called it tangents three. That searched for tangents too. That would have been the best one. Now, I guess if this isn't tangents three, congratulations. We now have tangents for the search for tangents three.

Alison 6:20

Yeah.

Evan 6:21

Um,

Alison 6:25

We're just going to keep going with those.

Evan 6:27

the what it would say, um, what was I thinking I did though, find out that, um, of bloat Tamir's Lenski his dad is. Uh, and his, um, he has an overdose, number four. I have an overdose number of six, which means that our collaborative distance is at most, uh, 10,

Alison 6:50

very nice.

Evan 6:52

which is just really cool. There are no more than 11 people between me and the heroic president of Ukraine

Alison 7:01

And one of them.

Evan 7:05

at the most. But thinking about it, the people who've worked with Paula does many of them know each other, so I can re so I can remove at least one.

Alison 7:12

Okay. But to say that is pretty funny.

Evan 7:18

yeah. Where's the Sabbath number calculator. Cause he's got to have a Sabbath number.

Alison 7:23

Oh,

Evan 7:24

and, and not, not, not,

Alison 7:25

Okay. Side note on this, this rum sour. I ma I kind of recommends that you, drink it with a side of Tums because it's a lot of lemon juice, so boy.

Evan 7:39

Yeah. Okay. So Melbourne has a bacon number of two. Mel Brooks was in life, stinks with Howard Morris, who was an end of the line with Kevin bacon.

Alison 7:49

Okay. And does he have a, an earnest number,

Evan 7:54

I do not think so. I'm trying to find if he has a Sabbath number and I can't right now, Sabbath number calculators are all pointing me back to air does bacon Sabbath

Alison 8:06

number calculator?

Evan 8:09

because he never finished college because he went to war.

Alison 8:16

Um, Mel Brooks,

Evan 8:21

If that doesn't work, try Melvin, come in STI.

Alison 8:24

no offers match Melvin Kaminsky.

Evan 8:29

I can't say I'm exactly that surprised

Alison 8:32

Um, also I cannot find you.

Evan 8:38

really?

Alison 8:39

Yeah. Okay. The closest I've got is Harris, Edward G.

Evan 8:43

It's not me. I mean, not all the I've been in the journal for journal or proceedings of the design of medical devices conference for 2019. And my master's thesis should both be included,

Alison 8:58

this is math Sinai. They may just,

Evan 9:02

not going to be in a direct math.

Alison 9:04

what's your hair for me lab. Let's see what they've got.

Evan 9:09

I can't find the, a good, all the Sabbath calculators that I've found are dead.

Alison 9:17

Uh, Helene. Anyways, that's a separate Tandon.

Evan 9:22

that is a tangent that we will, I'm sure. Find it though. We'll be in tangents three or tangents for the search for tangents three. Unless I come up with a more punny name.

Alison 9:32

What's the third mighty ducks movie called?

Evan 9:35

I don't remember.

Alison 9:37

I don't like that one though, too, is the best

Evan 9:39

too. Is the best isn't it? Or no? Three is the one with Kenan Thompson, right?

Alison 9:45

Kenan Thompson comes in in two. Oh, it's D three, the mighty ducks. We could totally do a

Evan 9:51

T3 the mighty tangents.

Alison 9:52

yes.

Evan 9:54

I will try and remember the bed. I have not seen the rebooted show on Disney plus.

Alison 10:01

I'm not watching the rebooted show. They made the ducks, the villains. I'm not about that life.

Evan 10:05

Yeah, I'm not watching it now. I mean, I was getting, it was on my list of things to watch eventually, but now it's.

Alison 10:12

it's. not on my list. I saw the, I saw the preview and was like, oh, they did what to the ducks.

Evan 10:18

mean, it was very low on my list and my list is quite long.

Alison 10:24

I feel like my list doesn't really exist so much. It's like, people will say something to me that I should watch it. And they'll be like, Yeah. that's on my list. And then I completely forget it and never come back to it.

Evan 10:36

No

Alison 10:37

I have what have you, you've recommended things to me

Evan 10:41

Well, no, no. I'm saying for myself when people recommend things to me, no comment. I mean, my list is most of the metaphorical.

Alison 10:49

Yeah.

Evan 10:51

Yeah. I know. I know. I know when I recommend things to people that the odds of them watching are best 50%.

Alison 10:56

Yeah. Anyways,

Evan 10:57

Yeah. Anyways, so aside from the wild, no, it's not up. It's probably all thing. It's up. No, m&ms from Michigan. He's very Midwestern.

Alison 11:09

Oh,

Evan 11:12

Hope, let me switch us sneak right past you there.

Alison 11:15

yeah. I don't know why, but Spotify has discovered that if it plays a Spotify, discover specifically has discovered that if they, put, Canadian Celtic and Irish music on my discover weekly, I will listen to it over and over again. And it is very catchy. Like, yes, there is the Dropkick Murphys as like the most, probably the most famous Canadian Celtic band. But there are a lot of them, there are like a surprisingly large number of them.

Evan 11:51

there's a large Celtic population in Canada. I mean, one of the provinces is literally Nova Scotia, new scout.

Alison 12:01

yes.

Evan 12:01

There are Celts in Scotland to, um, the non-selling selling. But when I went to Ireland and I'm sure some of this is going to get cut out, but whatever. Um, when I went to Ireland, we walked into a pub one night to get dinner. And there was this singer with a beautiful voice doing traditional Irish music. And we had, we were basically had a guide with us. and he said, that's not, you don't normally see that in it. And look after one lady after she's done, we look at talk with her ASCO. Oh, she's from Nova Scotia. She's not from Ireland. She's of Irish descent. It was plate learned. The music decided she wanted to go to Ireland and sing it properly. And it was playing Irish music in Ireland and getting big tips and comp like big, um, tips as well as cheers from actual Irish people singing in Irish, in actual Irish pubs and counting. Her mother. She was very

Alison 12:55

awesome.

Evan 12:56

She was very, very good. Let's use a professional singer, but she went to the place where the music was based and was killing it.

Alison 13:02

I'm here for it.

Evan 13:03

I mean, it was not music. Like you'd sing in a big venue. This is the stuff you get in the traditional stuff you get in part in small pops. It's like, oh no, she's good. Um, somewhere my dad has her CD because of course we bought it.

Alison 13:17

Very good.

Evan 13:18

Okay. I did not get any tortillas this year because my pancreas hates me and I live alone.

Alison 13:22

That's very rude of your pancreas. You should tell it to stop.

Evan 13:25

I've been trying to for five years.

Alison 13:28

No, you don't want it to stop. You want it to go?

Evan 13:30

Yeah. So I'm trying to get it to stop. I'm trying to get it going again. I've been working on that for five years.

Alison 13:36

Grey's anatomy earlier. It would be really great if they could get those mini livers working.

Evan 13:42

No, I don't know the TV show. I just know that it is natural anatomical tat spot,

Alison 13:46

Yes.

Evan 13:47

and that it is a TV show.

Alison 13:49

yeah, in the TV show, Meredith gray, who's the title character that works on a project to a. Basically, there's a thing they can do, in life where cases, where they can like use certain cells from the liver to like make fake mini pancreases and

Evan 14:12

I think it's the other way around. So what they do that is a natural thing, for pancreatic cancer, they'll harvest healthy cells from the pancreas and inject them into the liver. That is a real thing. Steve jobs had that done except he had it done.

Alison 14:25

Yeah. So they try and do it in Grey's anatomy is like a treatment for diabetics.

Evan 14:30

Yeah. So not really. It that's, to my knowledge and incorrect use of the treatment

Alison 14:36

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that

Evan 14:38

show first

Alison 14:39

TV. That's why I said it would be really nice if it, that word, but I don't think it at all. Does they, they talk about a lot of things medically where. I don't know, I am not a doctor, but something seems a little bit off.

Evan 14:55

Uh, that same, I'm also not adopter. They have a gym.

Alison 15:04

Jim, I'm an engineer, not a doctor. Uh, it's a reference to a star Trek, the original series.

Evan 15:15

I hope all our listeners get that reference. Otherwise.

Alison 15:18

If you haven't seen that, then, uh, I am thrilled that we have the opportunity to introduce you to it.

Evan 15:27

Yeah.

Alison 15:28

Uh, but you should go watch it.

Evan 15:29

yes, no, I haven't really watched the original series in awhile cause I was just watching well, if Jeffery watching TNG and Voyager.

Alison 15:36

Yes, Well, Ajer is by far my favorite at the star Trek series. we are doing a bad job talking about prem today.

Evan 15:46

Yes, we are

Alison 15:47

We're doing like an especially bad job of talking about term today. I am also very tired.

Evan 15:53

when we're tired, especially on Sundays, uh, we'd have more tangents,

Alison 15:58

Yes.

Evan 15:58

though interestingly, and this may be a tangent that gets cut out there. You had texted us. So this is the 23rd year I or 23rd season. I've skied.

Alison 16:08

Okay.

Evan 16:09

for the first time somebody tried to convert me to Mormonism on the left

Alison 16:16

That's the first.

Evan 16:17

because, I will let you get on the lift with other people frequently. You'll have a short conversation mostly about how's how's your day going? What's the, what are you seeing? How are conditions sort of thing. But, so this guy is, I don't live with three other people. They're clearly already in the conversation. So I don't interrupt. And he's saying, oh, in Hebrew they've got, every letter is worth a number he's sort of poorly explaining gematria and say, oh, you mean, so I interrupt and say, oh, you mean gematria? Yeah. So how he has, oh yes. I can never remember the term. How do you know about it? I said, well, I'm Jewish. He said, oh, I'm a linguist. Okay.

Alison 16:52

Yeah, well,

Evan 16:55

He works for the LDS church,

Alison 16:56

classic.

Evan 17:00

If you want the Samaritans, those still have Passover sacrifices.

Alison 17:03

yes,

Evan 17:04

All 800 of them.

Alison 17:06

Yeah. I mean, I guess, whatever floats their boat.

Evan 17:15

Yeah. I mean the biggest difference between some, between temple Judaism and Samaritan ism is a geographic disagree.

Alison 17:25

Sorry, say that again?

Evan 17:27

The biggest difference between temple Judaism and Samaritan ism is a geographic disagreement.

Alison 17:35

I think there's more than that though. Isn't there. I don't know much about Samaritans. I know they kind of said, like, we don't care about rabbinic Judaism. We're just gonna,

Evan 17:46

Well, yeah, they don't care about rabbinic Jew, but they split off

Alison 17:50

They spin off a long time ago and they

Evan 17:52

well, well before

Alison 17:53

we'll be four temple times.

Evan 17:55

the first temple.

Alison 17:57

yes. Well before like typical times versus not temple. times

Evan 18:01

Yeah. So they, they believe, I can't remember what the, what the mountain has told, but it's further north for anyone who doesn't know. And you can read it for a sheet if instead, if you want to know this. So the temple is built where theoretically Abraham was going to, or at least where tradition states that Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac. Right.

Alison 18:24

Yeah. Uh, there's a bunch of things about the mountain that are important. Um, and like, not just in Judaism. Uh,

Evan 18:33

Oh yeah. But I've talked to going back far enough for the disagreement between Jews and Samaritans.

Alison 18:39

Yes. I was going to say, you can also check out the information about the church of the holy Sepulchre if you're

Evan 18:45

Yes. That, there's a lot of interesting history behind that in all honesty.

Alison 18:49

Oh yeah.

Evan 18:49

but so the, the Samaritans believe it was a different mountain, further north in Israel and they still have their temple there and they still have sacrifices.

Alison 18:58

yeah. I think they also like. also have some different, weird histories.

Evan 19:05

Oh Yeah.

Alison 19:07

like you've heard the story of the good Samaritan, um, and they show up in different like random places. So, I am not an expert in any way, shape or form on them.

Evan 19:20

Nor am I, but that, that is my knowledge of the differences. So they still practice something closer to temple Judaism than modern rabbinic shoes, which include basically average, who you will ever meet

Alison 19:30

yeah.

Evan 19:31

at junction and say, basically, I should say, every Jew you will ever meet,

Alison 19:34

yes. Every day you will meet,

Evan 19:37

no, the chair rights are still repent. You can argue that.

Alison 19:42

I don't think I've ever met anybody who identified themselves as a carrot.

Evan 19:47

but they exist. Uh,

Alison 19:49

just don't think you're going to come across

Evan 19:50

you know, but the beta Israel are technically, I think were Bennett as well, the terror, right? Or not the terrorists, the Kaflan Jews are definitely rabbinic. Um, so I'm trying to think of what, of, what are any of the other dive sporadic communities that might

Alison 20:05

Benny Israel or rabbinic.

Evan 20:09

I think pretty much every,

Alison 20:11

Yeah. I don't know of any who aren't

Evan 20:14

the only ones who aren't aren't Jewish because they're messianic and those are crazy.

Alison 20:19

antics Oh, my it's running. It's it's uh, it's water from the sky. I think it's gotta be running

Evan 20:28

Um,

Alison 20:29

degree

Evan 20:30

I don't think it needs to be running bass to be

Alison 20:32

or it's gotta be fallen water

Evan 20:33

fall in water. Yeah. Snow can count.

Alison 20:36

somewhat. Yeah. Uh, the ocean counts as a McCullough. Cause it gets water from the sky. It doesn't have to be a ton of water from the sky. It's got to get some and it has to be like X number of square cubits or something.

Evan 20:48

Yeah. So for anyone who is Christian and says, oh, that sounds like baptism. Where do you think you got it from?

Alison 20:53

Yeah. I have totaled Tocqueville and being like. You wash things, basically, you do like a ritual wash. I have total things in lake Michigan before I have done it. I've also used the Atlantic ocean.

Evan 21:11

like Mr. Nunes, a little cleaner, a little fresher.

Alison 21:15

But when you live in Florida, it's a little easier to access the Atlantic ocean than it is to access lake Michigan. Just a teeny tiny bit.

Evan 21:23

That's true. That is true. I mean, I can do it if I need to clean anything it's snowing right now, so I can go use fresh snow. Um,

Alison 21:35

well, I think, I don't know. You might have to find like a snow melt pond or something

Evan 21:39

No, I purchased, I've seen on Instagram, a rabbi talked about how no fresh snow doesn't have to be melted eight counts and it's a kabod rabbi, so

Alison 21:48

not know that.

Evan 21:49

I'm taking it like, so definitely any of the other rabbis I would listen to we'll take that. But, um, we're not getting into the denominations, isn't the right term, but it's

Alison 22:00

not talking about, uh, about Hussey dude versus, uh, midnight them. we're not doing

Evan 22:07

we're not doing that at least not today.

Alison 22:10

Yeah. We'll do it another time. I think we've brought it up before.

Evan 22:13

Yeah. But um, more, it is a rabbi who is more observant of traditional, alpha than I am.

Alison 22:21

yeah,

Evan 22:22

That, that is that, that is more than enough,