Laugh along with us as Heathyr, our vibrant guest, charms us with tales that range from the hilarious to the heartfelt. We break the ice with a game of two truths and a lie, leading us down a path of regional stereotypes and personal revelations that'll have you questioning your own quirks. Ever wondered about the mental gymnastics we endure in our digital lives? We unpack the unseen burden of technology, contrasting the simplicity of tapping on a screen with the toll it takes on our minds, all while keeping the mood light and laughter plentiful.
Take a seat at our table as we guide you through the age-old craft of sourdough bread making, from nurturing your very own starter to pulling a steaming loaf from the oven. Discover the joy of mixing in unique ingredients and the pride that comes from a well-baked creation. We'll even let you in on our fitness journeys, where Heather and I redefine our relationships with the gym and self-image, swapping out aesthetics for a celebration of strength and performance. It's an intimate, empowering exchange that might just inspire you to lace up those sneakers and set your own personal records.
Cap off the episode with a blend of nostalgia and nourishment for both the soul and the stomach. We reminisce over comfort movies and divulge in the art of cooking, all while poking fun at the quirks of digital communication. The path to fitness isn't just about the numbers on the scale; it's about transformation, and Heather and I aren't shy about sharing ours. Join us for this uplifting mix of personal anecdotes, belly laughs, and life-enhancing tips that'll leave you feeling like part of the family—and perhaps a bit more equipped to take on your own sourdough and squat challenges.
Do you have a story you would like to share? Send it to us at theweightingroompc@gmail.com
Disclaimer: We are not Medical professionals and all views and opinions are our own.
Laugh along with us as Heathyr, our vibrant guest, charms us with tales that range from the hilarious to the heartfelt. We break the ice with a game of two truths and a lie, leading us down a path of regional stereotypes and personal revelations that'll have you questioning your own quirks. Ever wondered about the mental gymnastics we endure in our digital lives? We unpack the unseen burden of technology, contrasting the simplicity of tapping on a screen with the toll it takes on our minds, all while keeping the mood light and laughter plentiful.
Take a seat at our table as we guide you through the age-old craft of sourdough bread making, from nurturing your very own starter to pulling a steaming loaf from the oven. Discover the joy of mixing in unique ingredients and the pride that comes from a well-baked creation. We'll even let you in on our fitness journeys, where Heather and I redefine our relationships with the gym and self-image, swapping out aesthetics for a celebration of strength and performance. It's an intimate, empowering exchange that might just inspire you to lace up those sneakers and set your own personal records.
Cap off the episode with a blend of nostalgia and nourishment for both the soul and the stomach. We reminisce over comfort movies and divulge in the art of cooking, all while poking fun at the quirks of digital communication. The path to fitness isn't just about the numbers on the scale; it's about transformation, and Heather and I aren't shy about sharing ours. Join us for this uplifting mix of personal anecdotes, belly laughs, and life-enhancing tips that'll leave you feeling like part of the family—and perhaps a bit more equipped to take on your own sourdough and squat challenges.
Do you have a story you would like to share? Send it to us at theweightingroompc@gmail.com
Disclaimer: We are not Medical professionals and all views and opinions are our own.
hey lisa.
Speaker 2:Hey, chris, just so everybody knows, this is like our fourth time saying hello I just started talking about stuff I don't want to say on here. I know and chris also sent me a voice note earlier today. She was like we have to stay on track with things and I'm like, okay, and immediately she has come on and nothing has been on track, blah blah, blah blah with you because I haven't talked to you for so long.
Speaker 1:Well, it feels like yeah long, but it's been like not crazy, it's been a week yeah, um but so much happens in a day that I know and then yet, also sometimes nothing happens.
Speaker 2:Exactly, there was something that you said. Oh, the mental thing. Because it's like you know, when you're on your phone and you're like, oh, I need to send this email, or oh, I need to reply to this person, or oh, I should work on this video, it's like this is the same action scrolling through your phone, doing whatever, all you're working are your thumbs, but mentally you just can't do it. The amount of times I'm driving and I'm like, brandon, can you text this person? Or brandon, can you look up this while I'm driving, and he's just like, no, I can't, I can't do it right now. I mean, well, I'm sitting there like you're not doing anything, but I get it because it's like your, your brain thinks it's so much more work and it's literally the same amount of work anyway. So we're gonna have a guest on here today. Um, actually, yeah, we're gonna have a guest on here today.
Speaker 1:She's actually in the waiting room, of the waiting room, oh wow, she's waiting on us.
Speaker 2:Well then, we'll just let her introduce herself.
Speaker 3:Let her in did I do it? Hey, hey, we have that. Oh my gosh, I know I could. I saw when, uh, I watched some of the clips from your tiktok and I was like, oh, we have the same headphones, so exciting we were in the process of introducing who you were going to be, but now you're here so you can just like I just said hey yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 2:It's all good, um, so we'll let you just say who you are, and uh, yeah, this feels like this feels like camp when they're like everybody, introduce yourself and I'm like camp is a lot better than like an aa meeting uh, I'm heather AA meeting, uh, I'm. Heather, hi Heather and that's me.
Speaker 3:I'm a person, I, I, I, I do things. I'm real good at this, guys.
Speaker 2:You know what? So to Chris's story, one that we always did, that I always was so bad at but I loved was two truths two truths, one lie. So like you would say two things that are true, and then you would say one thing that's a lie, and then everybody has to guess which one the lie is icebreaker.
Speaker 3:Two truths. Two truths and one lie.
Speaker 1:Let's see um, if you asked me to do that right now, lisa, I'd be like go yourself, like I mean, this is all right.
Speaker 3:Like what? Uh, I don't even know what's. What are truths about me? I feel like this is too easy.
Speaker 2:I'm too like much of an open book that you guys have been following for too long, you're gonna know everything about me anyway always been my problem when this comes out too.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's see, um, I am a complete nerd. I play world of warcraft and immerse myself completely in video games. For the most part, true, um, you're just like true, um, uh, let's see, I have three children and my first child I had when I was only 19 and I like trucks.
Speaker 1:I actually have no idea because you're from. Do we? Do you say where you're from? In Canada? I'm from Edmonton, okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 3:If you like, I actually say that on your on TikTok but no well, yeah, I guess I put the little location thingy sometimes when you're in alberta, saskatchewan, I feel like trucks are just.
Speaker 1:That's a normal thing. That you there's this private facebook group for people that work and live in bamf and it's always like a picture of a truck will come up and it's like the boys are back in town and they'll play that song because all the Calgary guys coming in oh my god uh, yeah, I'm gonna say the second one's the lie.
Speaker 2:I feel like there's a tweak there, like it's actually like 18 or or 20 or it's like two kids.
Speaker 1:I don't know how many kids you have.
Speaker 3:I know I don't really post it on my kids, but no, I actually I don't. I'm not a fan of trucks we're like let's go full-on.
Speaker 2:Stereotypical you're from alberta.
Speaker 3:She likes trucks, guys. You know what's funny I?
Speaker 2:was even going to like. I was gonna ask about the trucks. I was gonna be like oh yeah, we're kind of tracks like I'm gonna say like is she gonna say monster trucks? Is she gonna say, do you?
Speaker 3:know why I said that. Actually it's because I had no idea what to say. I'm just looking around the room. My dad is a very big fan of trucks and there are little trucks all across, so I was like I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it how old are you, heather? I can't remember.
Speaker 3:I am. How old am I? What year is it? It's 2024.
Speaker 2:I'll be 34 did you just time travel before?
Speaker 3:logging on like I forgot what time it was hey, I feel like once you hit like 27, it's like how old am I again?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I totally agree with that, am I?
Speaker 3:28?.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, or like you know, I just posted a video that I'm going to do 40 before 40. So I think it's April 28th or something will be the 40 day countdown and I'm just going to try a new thing each day.
Speaker 3:At least try.
Speaker 1:Like, I don't try to try.
Speaker 3:That's a good plan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I exciting like I don't try to try. That's a good plan. Yeah, I like that. I don't feel like I'm 40, but then sometimes I really feel like I'm 40, like I'm like one I don't know a step away from doing a Ross and buying a Porsche or something like. I didn't realize that I didn't really think about 40 as being middle age. Like, for some odd reason, I just always said 50, but then I was like you'd have to live to 100 so I was like oh my god, 40, 40 is pretty much middle age, like maybe 45, but holy crap.
Speaker 3:I just like.
Speaker 2:I know I'm having my midlife crisis. I said to Brandon like earlier this year. I said I'm only turning 30 this year if I'm allowed to have a midlife crisis this year. And he was like then you're only gonna live to year 60. And I'm like like we really don't know at this point, so I would like to make sure that I cash in my midlife crisis before I die. So, um, he did not take it, though, and I still turned 30, so c'est la vie anyways.
Speaker 3:So chris, were you gonna say something or no?
Speaker 1:I felt like I always look like I'm going to, but no, it's just my brain going dead.
Speaker 2:So um heather. The first thing I want to ask you is do you make your own sourdough starter?
Speaker 3:I do, yes, I do can you share your recipe? Yeah, it's actually flour and water, that's all. That's all. A sourdough starter is don't you guys, don't get me started on sourdough. I could be here for hours okay.
Speaker 1:So many questions about it, about, like the refrigeration of it, for like you have to feed it every day, like how long does it last if you don't feed it, like I'm? Just gonna have an entire like zoo of yeah, because I just I've been wanting to do so. I'm so sorry, I just been wanting to do sourdough. But then when people are like, oh, then you put half of what it looks like in the jar, and I'm like, no, I need proper measurements I got you.
Speaker 3:It's so easy. Everyone over complicates it. I think people just want to be like. They want to make it seem like it's more important than it is. You know what I mean when people do that when they're like no, no, you have to be specific.
Speaker 3:Blah, blah bitch. They've been making sourdough since like what? 1200, like whatever year, you know, it's just flour and water. So all it is is you take some flour, you take some water, mix it together, you leave it in the jar. 24 hours later you add a little bit more flour, a little bit more water, mix it up, leave it in the jar, you just add a little bit more. And so what happens is the flour and the water it like combines, and then the flour starts to like ferment, I guess, and then it's really gross. The first, like three, four, five days even. It smells like feet.
Speaker 3:It's disgusting, I'm opening the lid and feeding it, and my mom was like what's that smell? And I'm like it's my sourdough starter. She's like I hope you're not aching with that, but all of a sudden, like day eight rolls around. You open it up and it smells like fresh bread and you're like, oh my God, it's so yeasty. And then it starts to double and you're like, okay, it's ready to bake with. And then you bake with it and it's easy peasy.
Speaker 2:So basically, Is it like a one-to-one, like one cup water, one cup?
Speaker 3:It's a one-to-one-to-one ratio. Show so. But obviously day one, if you have no starter, you're gonna make it from scratch. Do like 10 grams of flour, 10 grams of water, mix it up and leave it. The next day you have 20 grams in that jar. Obviously, because you did 10 grams, 10 grams right and you would do. You have your 20 grams of starter in the jar. You add 20 grams of flour, 20 grams of water oh, you double it up leave it you.
Speaker 3:It's just one to one, to one every single time. So you have to discard because otherwise you would end up with a with a tub of sourdough starter Right. So typically people discard half of it before they they add the flour and water. Before that it's called feeding it. It's your feed feedings so you feed it some more flour and water. So I discard everything but 30 grams and then I just keep feeding it 30 grams of water.
Speaker 1:So when do you start discarding it? On what day?
Speaker 3:just when you have too much when it's going to overflow your jar.
Speaker 1:So you take that out of the jar, then weigh it, put it back in the jar and then just start feeding it. You got it okay. Well, unless you're using the of the jar, then weigh it, put it back in the jar and then just start feeding it.
Speaker 3:You got it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Well, unless you're using the same jar every time.
Speaker 2:Then you just take the portion off the jar, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you just keep it at room temperature. Why do people put it in the fridge Once your starter is ready to bake with? Once it's established, you can put it in the fridge so you don't have to feed it as often, because the colder it is, the less um the yet the less it's going to eat the yeast, so it's like stagnant longer so if you keep it in the fridge.
Speaker 3:You only have to feed it, say, like once a week, versus if you're leaving it on the counter you have to feed it every day, sometimes even twice a day. Basically, so I have. Should I go upstairs and get my starter?
Speaker 2:and show you. Yeah, sure, okay, chris, let's have a weight loss podcast and have somebody come on and tell us how to make.
Speaker 1:But seriously, sourdough is great because it's low on the glycemic index and it's really good for people with digestion issues. Honestly, I had someone say to me that store-bought sourdough in in my comment section.
Speaker 2:Store-bought sourdough sometimes isn't really sourdough, but I want to know if that person was canadian, because I feel like we have harsher food regulations than america does I do notice a difference, like if I buy sourdough from longos versus if I buy sourdough from like zara's, even though they're both in made stores like uh, the longos one is like the dense, true sourdough yeah, yeah, like when I go to a bakery and stuff, like I can tell the difference from that compared to like veros or whatever that I get.
Speaker 1:But oh, oh, that's like ghost, like oh my god that looks really freaky. Oh my god, there's multiple of her. What is what is happening?
Speaker 2:we were literally just talking and then it started going and we both froze, we're like what's that? And then all of a sudden it glitched and you were there, it's like possessed what, what is going on?
Speaker 3:oh my god, that's so funny oh my god, is there like settings? What is happening? Use the computer, they said, because we have issues with mobile they said because we have issues with mobile. They said oh, oh, my god, I've never. This is the first time I've ever used zoom, so I don't even know.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say, if you have to leave and come back, we're okay with that. Oh, okay your.
Speaker 3:Oh, there you go your webcam.
Speaker 1:Didn't want us to see your starter no she's too interested, so I have too many cards I have two one is uh brown bready.
Speaker 3:Whoa brown bready? Because this one is made with whole wheat flour only.
Speaker 1:So that, that sorry, sorry. That is established.
Speaker 3:So if you yes today, will it just like like become yes yes, and then so I can bake with this because it's established, and then you bake with only 30 grams as well. No, no, it's dependent on what recipe you're doing.
Speaker 2:So so it's saying discard, like you're saying you discard down to 30. Could you, could you take that other 30 and make two starters? Yep, and they would just make the same time and then when you go to make the bread, like you're not just baking a starter, I'm assuming you have to add no, you add other stuff, yeah yeah, okay, okay, but you use the whole starter here, let me one thing at a time.
Speaker 1:I explained we're getting so ahead of ourselves yeah, yeah, okay, so this one.
Speaker 3:Do you see how I put a little elastic? Yes, this is where it was when I fed it yesterday and then it grows and if you see kind of there's drag marks on it, that's where it rose up to the top and then it kind of sunk back down. When it sinks back down. That's how you on it. That's where it rose up to the top and then it kind of sunk back down. When it sinks back down. That's how you know it's ready to be fed again. So this is ready to be fed.
Speaker 2:It tells you it's hungry.
Speaker 3:It tells you it's hungry. It does Same with this. One rose way more, so you can see all these like drag marks here. So this one, it rose all the way up to here and then it fell back down.
Speaker 1:So it's hungry, it's ready to eat wow you can see it's like holy so you can't use that, though, because it's sunk back down like do you want it when it's?
Speaker 3:correct. You want it. So when you want to use your starter is when it hits its peak. When it's rising. It's kind of like bread. It'll have a dome on it, like while it's rising, and then, once it hits the top, it'll like flatten out. Once it's at that flat part, that's when you want to use it to bake with. So then what you do is you follow a recipe. My recipe is usually it's 125 grams of starter, put it into a bowl about 350 grams of water, you whisk it up and then you add 500 grams of flour, about eight grams of salt, and that's it.
Speaker 2:It's just flour and water flour, water and salt. That's it.
Speaker 3:That's all it is and then the starter is just flour and water, so the entire ingredients of the bread is basically flour and water, and then a little front door and the salt's. The only reason to add it is to preserve your bread.
Speaker 2:It acts as a preservative so that it stays better longer on your counter or whatever I'm gonna listen to this episode so many times it's very, it's very, very cool.
Speaker 3:I love it. It's so much fun to like. Oh man, I could just go on for hours about this because, like you can see, this one is so runny right and it's so right and it rose so much it looks almost like a pancake batter. This one is so thick.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because this? Oh look, you can see the holes.
Speaker 1:Why those?
Speaker 3:yeasty holes. Why is it so different? Because this one is 100% whole wheat flour that I use and this one I use just a little bit of whole wheat flour, but mostly bread flour. That's why this one is called half bread, this one is called brown bread. They have bread names.
Speaker 2:I love that so much it's not a half bread anymore.
Speaker 3:It used to be 50 50, but then I was like you know what? I think I want more of a white one, because to bake, like with cookies and stuff, I kind of just want like a bread flour so sorry, I know I've already asked this, but you're you discard every day, then yes, but here's the thing discard does not always mean literally like throw it out and discard it.
Speaker 3:You can save your discard and bake with it. So you only need the like rising peaked starter to make your bread because you want your bread to rise. But you can make other things like pancakes or cinnamon rolls, cookies, with the stuff that hasn't started rising Because you're discarding even before it started being when it's stinky. No, that stuff you can't use it okay, you can't.
Speaker 3:You can't use that away though yes, you have to throw it away until it's established, and it takes about 10 days to become established. Yeah, so I just chuck it in the compost.
Speaker 2:So how do you know when it's established? Sorry, how you?
Speaker 3:know when it's right. Yeah, so this little elastic right here, once it doubles within like two to four hours, uh, every day for at least four days in a row, then you know it's established as it's consistently rising for you now, so the first like three, four, five days, it might not rise at all. It might just get some liquid on the top which is called hooch, just basically, like think, when you're making alcohol, it's like fermentation, like it's that same kind of principle. So it's basically developing the bacteria, like it's developing the yeast, and then once the yeast is developed and now it's eating the carbs in the flour and rising, and then consistently rising every time you feed it. That's how you know it's established.
Speaker 2:And then you can bake with it. I'm so excited to go to the grocery store the first time it rises.
Speaker 1:you don't use it because you don't know it's actually established. You wait a few times.
Speaker 3:Correct. You wait four days in a row is typically the good measure.
Speaker 1:Okay, no pun intended If you're using 125 grams of starter to make your bread. There will be stuff left over in your jar, so you just weigh that out and then you just keep feeding it, whatever that is, and then you're discarding it. And that discard you can use for other things, or you can make a separate starter and use that, and then you have a couple right? Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:Yes, I can see how this can absorb your life Right.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, I just went right down the sourdough rabbit hole. Well, you saw my videos. Every day I'm like I made some sourdough this, sourdough that and sourdough this, and so it's just because I make cookies and my dad's like at least sourdough, and I'm like, yeah, they sure are literally.
Speaker 2:I have that problem right now where, like I'm, like you guys want some of this and dad's like, is there cottage cheese?
Speaker 3:but yeah, so I feed it like if it's 30 grams, I'll feed it 30 grams of flour, 30 grams of water and then it'll be 90 grams in here, right? If I know I want to make bread that day, I won't discard, I'll just feed 90 grams of water, 90 grams of flour and then that way I have enough in here. When it peaks it'll hit like the top and I'll use most of it to make my bread, right, and then it's back down because 125 grams is like a lot of that jar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well actually this.
Speaker 3:This jar, full to the top, is about 350 grams I kind of test it. I tried to go for like 400 grams and it was like spilling out and like like.
Speaker 1:So it was crazy what kind of that is that, is that like? Is that a mason jar?
Speaker 3:okay, so you, you're not supposed to keep it um airtight, so like if I turn it this way and like put it on, it'll be like an airtight lid, right, right. So I keep it um like just like kind of sitting on the top, because the lid is really just so that no dust goes in or like any similar jars to you, but mine are the wider ones. And then I also have your salad ones for my you don't like.
Speaker 3:From my experience you don't want one with any sort of like lip or like a bevel, because it's too hard to like scrape it from underneath.
Speaker 1:So that's why yes.
Speaker 3:That's why I got this is because it's completely straight. So then I got a straight, flat spatula so that it was super easy to just like be able to scrape it, even though it looks disgusting, whatever, and you don't have to clean this because this dehydrated is still like starter, like active starter in there, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1:That's super awesome.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad we had this conversation because brandon, a couple weeks ago, was like I think I want to make sourdough starter and I was like dear god, why? Why do you want to do that? But then I saw you were doing it and I was like I don't know, I don't. I still don't know about this, but he also hasn't mentioned it again since. So I don't know if this is actually or not, but it's so much fun.
Speaker 3:It does sound great, it's so fun. And then you start getting into like making, like additions into it and inclusions or whatever. Like I made a blueberry loaf, I made one with poppy seeds and lemon zest. I made a chocolate sourdough with dark chocolate chips. I made your favorite lemon poppy seed. That one was, it was solid. I just made a cheddar one the other day and trevor just was like obsessed with it. He loved it. He's like the best love.
Speaker 1:Yet as you're putting all the ingredients together to make your bread. I think you do have videos about that, right like you're are you just like folding it in, or you put it like are you?
Speaker 3:so, okay, sourdough is a little. It's like it doesn't take a lot of time to actually do it. It takes a lot of time in total, if that makes sense. So basically, you mix up your dough, you mix up your starter, your water, your flour, mix it up until it looks shaggy and nice about three minutes. Then you leave it on your counter for an hour. Then you come back to it after it's rested for an hour and you start your stretch and folds. Basically, you just like lift it up and stretch, let it fold over, do it eight times. It only takes maybe 30 seconds to a minute. Then you leave it on the counter for another half an hour. You come back, you do a second set of stretches once you do four in total. So that's what? Two hours because you do every half an hour. Then you let it bulk ferment on the counter. Basically it's rising.
Speaker 3:It takes about depends on how hot your house is. So it's been now that it's gotten warmer here, like when I first started, it would take like six or seven hours till it almost doubled. Now it's only taking like three hours because the house is warmer, right. Once it's almost it's in a bowl, right, yeah, just at room temperature in a bowl. I actually have a big like measuring bowl, like a pyrex one, so it's just, but it's in a bowl, right? Yeah, just at room temperature in a bowl. I actually have a big like measuring bowl like a pyrex one, so it's just, but it's huge.
Speaker 3:So I just you leave it at room temperature on your counter until it's almost doubled like 75 percent doubled and then you just reshape it, you flunk it out on your countertop.
Speaker 3:Well, that's the stage where you add stuff to it. So like when you flunk it out on your countertop and you go to shape it into like a little log, a little ball, then you add whatever you want to add in there chocolate chips, blueberries, whatever and then you roll it up, you leave it on the counter 20 minutes, you do a second shaping, a final shaping, and then from there you can either bake it in the oven or, if it's too late at night like it usually is for me, because I don't start it until like noon I you just put it in a special like vanitin basket, which is like it's like a basket that has aerated holes on the bottom so that it can breathe and then has like a cloth in it that it won't stick, because you can flour it and then you just put it in the fridge. You can put it in the fridge like up to like 14 hours until you want to bake it.
Speaker 1:Then you just score it and then bake it that's awesome, I've seen people using um those pots, those really heavy ovens yeah, I've been seeing a lot of people using those to make them, in which?
Speaker 2:yeah, I used to put it in expensive. Yeah, I was gonna say you have to put it into like a bread pan. I'm assuming the amount that it'll spread out, yeah, yeah, so you either need a bread pan. I'm assuming the amount that it'll spread out, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So you either need a bread oven, which is like 500 frickin' dollars, a Dutch oven, which is a lot more reasonable, on sale for 40 bucks at Canadian Tire right now, just so you know if you're Canadian, I don't know how to look you can.
Speaker 3:Some people have said that they use like just a cast iron, like a skillet with like a like a lid over it, like, but you're obviously not going to get the best results doing that like the best results you want. Like a bread oven is like top tier, but dutch oven is works just fine that's what I use the lid to be.
Speaker 1:Like you want to cook it with the lid on?
Speaker 3:yeah, first 20 minutes with the lid on and you put some ice cubes in the sides to so it has steam, and then you take the lid off and cook it the rest of the way.
Speaker 1:I really didn't think we were going to be talking to you about sourdough today.
Speaker 2:I didn't either, but I know I have so many questions right now, like can I use my loaf pan? But probably not if it needs to be covered yeah, I don't think a loaf pan would work.
Speaker 3:Also, I am not an expert, like I'm still very new to sourdough, so I don't know. I'm sure someone somewhere has used a loaf pan. But from what I've seen, if you want just like a proper normal sourdough loaf, you have to use like a dutch oven. It's something about the heat, because you have to get uh your oven with you, put the dutch oven in your oven and you preheat at 500 degrees. It's first time in my life I've ever cooked anything at 500 degrees in my oven before I was like I would broil that five.
Speaker 2:Are you gonna continue this through the summer? You might like? Oh yeah, that's insane, right?
Speaker 3:I'm like, is this not like the temperature way down I know like, uh, it's crazy, but yeah, no, you have to preheat the dutch oven in the oven for an hour at 500 degrees too, so like it has to be hot, hot, hot, hot hot I'm just gonna text my husband real quick um and ask him if his mom is still giving away her bread cooker I really appreciate you talking to us about this because, like, honestly, I've been seeing like since 2020.
Speaker 1:I've been watching people make sourdough, but it's just, they don't go into detail and, like I, you saw me. Like it's, you say something and I need to confirm it by saying it back to you again. Yeah, no sure I hear it right, and it's anytime you want to talk sourdough I'm down awesome, I'll be like joining you in a live.
Speaker 3:Like all right, step by step here I'm trying to find a picture of my last sourdough loaf yeah, you'll have to do a uh um a tutorial yeah, sourdough yeah, and the other thing too.
Speaker 2:But on your note of uh taking pictures of your food, I saw this trend going around.
Speaker 3:Oh my god that's my cheddar loaf. I made the other day little chunks of cheese in there oh delicioso and sourdough and cheese.
Speaker 2:Oh, beautiful, right, so good. Wow, love it. Um, there was a trend going around on tiktok where people were like um, I am not somebody who can take pictures of my food. I don't have patience for that. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like I take pictures of my food all the time because the thing is, I put so much effort into some of the foods that I make and it takes me two minutes to devour it, like today I made that marry me chicken. We actually call it fuck me chicken instead of marry me chicken because we're already married. It's well. We actually say F me chicken because you know my child. But anyways, I, yeah, I've been telling Chris not to send voice notes where she has swearing in it, because I don't know if I'll be hearing it around Harper or not.
Speaker 2:But iPhone allows you to read messages now that are voice messages, so you could swear now and I'll know if you swore or not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just I don't like that feature because the reason I'm sending a voice note is because my texts are so blunt that I come across like such a bitch all the time, and I hate it.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's why I've gotten a comment. I read. I read it when I'm like busy and whatnot, but I still listen to it, so I I know I'm understanding the tone correctly she screenshot a voice note I sent in a group chat earlier and then I was reading it back to myself.
Speaker 1:I'm like why do I sound like such a cunt?
Speaker 2:but you know, whatever, just listen to it anyways, I don't remember why I started talking about that. I went down three rabbit holes there, I'm sure, but um, I have no idea what the heck I was gonna say.
Speaker 3:I'm the opposite. See like I'm when I'm over text. I'm like heart emojis and smiley faces, and and then in person, trevor's like why are you mad, did I do something? I'm like I'm not mad he's like you sound mad and I'm like I'm not.
Speaker 2:I just sound terrible all the time my mom for the longest time would send winky texts to people and she would always just be like it just means like happy face or like just a cutesy thing, and like my brother and I had to like sit her down and be like this doesn't mean what you think it means you are flirting with all of these people, winking at everybody.
Speaker 2:It's not flirting with all these people. What do you mean? I'm like mom, I swear like this is coming off very much like uh hey, how's it going? Wink like, stop winking smile people. She's like okay, fine, she's so oblivious when it comes to that stuff I am.
Speaker 3:I'm the same way. I'm like I have like hearts and like this. And trevor's like do you not understand how your reds just come across? I'm like no, what do you mean? I'm just happy, like hearts are nice. And he's like I'm like oh, maybe no, is that not a happy face? And he's like maybe for iPhone. He's like let me show you what it looks like on Android like oh yeah, that's a whole other problem.
Speaker 2:Oh I see, totally different they look totally different.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you think one's just like, and then on android it's like. You're like that is not what I was intending.
Speaker 2:It does the same thing artwork, uses microsoft teams and like I'm an emoji person, right. So like I go to send an emoji and I'm like that's not, that's not the vibe I want to send this person that I only talk about one thing for like three times a month.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, or you see on the computer when they turn them into different emojis and they're like the most horrific looking emojis you've ever seen and they are not cute like your phone. They're like.
Speaker 2:It's like a smile face on your phone is like, and then on the computer it's like yeah, that're like that's not the vibe I was going for I will always be a gift person because, like a gift to one person to another is always going to be the same thing every single time that's a safe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, gifts are safe gift or jif I always get jifs.
Speaker 1:I always say jif I know a lot of people saying jif only because people always think I'm saying gift and I'm like no, that is that's what I thought first.
Speaker 3:Not gonna lie, I was like gift. And then I was like, oh, no see, this is a whole. Do you guys remember? Like, kazza, kazza, like oh yeah music downloading. Yeah, people would be like Kazza and I'd be like it's Kazza, it's clearly Kazza, it was it's clearly clearly, wasn't that one like LimeWire, like it was down?
Speaker 2:yeah, it was yeah yeah, it was similar, yeah I literally just had a similar conversation to this a week ago with like my close friends in our group chat and I was like I never used limewire and they were like everybody in our generation used it and I was like no, I never used it. I was told it was bad and it would have viruses. And we had like one family computer and I wasn't going to, I wasn't going to be the one to mess up our family computer, so I never did it. And my friend was like you really were that goody two-shoe person growing up, weren't you?
Speaker 3:I'm like yes, yes, I was meanwhile I had it and I ended up, my dad was like what is this on the computer? And it was literally cockroaches running across the screen and like eating away the pixels and I was like uh I just wanted to watch all seasons of sailor moon I don't know and then, yeah, it was uh, definitely a virus and he had paid a lot of money to try and get the computer fixed and there was no saving it.
Speaker 1:I'm so lucky. But like we did have a virus software, so before opening up any link I would always scan it. So I felt like I was being safe. But I remember LimeWire was the first place I ever downloaded a movie. For what did I watch? Oh yeah, a walk to remember. And it was this big and I was just like trying so hard to watch. Oh my God, do you guys remember that movie?
Speaker 3:yeah, like when she was like what?
Speaker 1:did she say like I'm dying or whatever, and I was like, how did I not see this coming? Oh my god, I don't think I saw it coming either back when I watched I watched that in theaters.
Speaker 3:I still remember it. God, that was a good movie yeah, it was pretty good.
Speaker 1:I feel like one of that, like it's one of those movies that if you watch it back now it's just going to be cringe yeah it's a capital of cheese Like there's so many movies that are like that now, though, where it was just like oh, this is cheesy.
Speaker 1:There was that one Mandy Moore movie. I loved Jenna. Something was in it too. It was where they were all at Catholic school and I think the reason I liked it was I was like that is a very accurate example of what it was like at Catholic school, and like the cool girls, and it was yeah. What was that movie I don't know? Like Jesus saves or something I don't know.
Speaker 2:I also went just pulling out of random.
Speaker 1:I really am, jesus saves it was not called that. I'm going to look it up while we talk about something else.
Speaker 2:All right, let's deal with trauma. Heather, you also went to Catholic school.
Speaker 1:Yes, ptsd.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was our cheer PTSD, ptsd.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, yeah, that was our. Uh cheer ptsd.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, oh my god, okay, so um, we don't have to talk about bread and we don't have to talk about catholic school, but we can just and bread. Both have risen this month saved.
Speaker 1:It was called saved I knew it was about something being saved. Okay, so just say macaulay calkins in it.
Speaker 2:I don't know how that is, I'm sorry. No, no, she's lying there's no way.
Speaker 1:You don't know who macaulay calkin is home alone. For one, the movie home alone.
Speaker 2:I know the movie home alone no, no, I know the movie home, I'm horrible. No, I know the movie Home Alone. I'm horrible with names.
Speaker 1:So like I've probably seen the main actor, okay.
Speaker 2:Then there we are. Yes, okay, so that's what I mean. I'm bad with names. Recognize the face?
Speaker 1:His brother, I think, is Kieran Cullen, and he was in that movie.
Speaker 2:um, oh, I like superheroes, ramona why are you trying to remember movies?
Speaker 1:but it's bothering me now because I'm trying to like, I'm associating it all this is good.
Speaker 3:You guys are just filling up my bank for trivia night but kieran colin?
Speaker 1:no, it's gonna bother me um scott pilgrim versus the world he was.
Speaker 2:I love that oh yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, that's macaulay. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, that's not roommate room in. Yeah, you're right, you're right sorry, it just bothered.
Speaker 1:I had to say it. I had to figure it out. We could not move forward from this that's another movie that I love.
Speaker 2:That it's like if it's on, I'm gonna keep it on. You know what I mean, but I never go to look for it wasn't there a new?
Speaker 3:I have a lot of movies like that about it I don't think it was a part two, I think it was just a reanimated scott pilgrim but I think it's still in the works rams was watching it, I think, I don't know, I didn't watch it that's how I feel about all dance movies like honey or like save the last dance or like step up, like those are when that's in the background, I'm like, yeah, but I'm never gonna look for them, but I love them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, save the last dance was one of those movies that I was like oh my, I'm never gonna look for them, but I love them. Yeah, save the last dance was one of those movies that I was like oh my god, she is an amazing dancer and then now, when I'm watching tiktoks of people, like recreating them or judging them, like wow, that is awful like her dance like the dance routine at the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sorry the dance routine at the end like I thought that was like oh my god, look at her audition, that is amazing. And watching it back now it's oh my god, you were auditioning for juilliard and that's what you did.
Speaker 3:Yeah it gives the same energy as like that new dance, you know, the new one that everyone's doing on tiktok, that, like jason derulo did oh, yeah, and then the white girls do it and they're like it's the same energy. I'm here for it. So, oh my god too funny.
Speaker 2:Um, my brain, my brain is like we need to talk about this topic, but then we talk about other things and it's like I love all of these topics that we're talking about. Um, so I'm just going to talk about, like when I messaged you, and then you can talk about how you went from where you were to that point of when I messaged you because I think I've actually I'm sure I've talked about it a couple times where I'm like I saw how you were transformation transforming.
Speaker 2:You're not a transformer, so like but I saw.
Speaker 2:I saw how your transitions were going and I was like, what are you doing? Because this is what I want to do. Um, and I reached out oh god, when was that? Like February, I think it was that I was like, what are you doing? And you're like, uh, the scale hasn't even gone down, but it's working. And I'm like, oh my, and even like today, when you see, like your transition videos, like the progress you've made, not just on, like, how you look, but even on the heavy app with, like the weights that you're lifting and what you're doing there, it's insane. Like I hope you're really proud of yourself because it's so good, it's amazing.
Speaker 3:I am, I am it, it's you know. You know, something so crazy to me is Trevor and I were. We were in the gym and I was like man, I really want some crumble cookies and stuff. And I was like, ah, but I feel so bad and, like you know, I'm like getting that whole food guilt thing. Every so often that comes back and he's like why, like we just lifted heavy, like let's do it, no matter what it it is, it's just feeding your muscles.
Speaker 3:And I was like I looked at him and I was like what a interesting concept to just be like I'm going to the gym to lift heavy and that's it. Like I'm just here to set PRs and like feel good knowing I'm strong. And it doesn't need to translate into like I'm doing this to lose weight, I'm doing this and because I'm doing this, I need to eat clean or eat chicken and rice. And like I can just go to the gym and be happy that I'm improving in the gym and like that's all that it is. And I was like what an odd concept for me, who my whole life I've been like, no, if I'm going to the gym, that also means I have to be eating salads and protein and cookies, bad like blah, blah, blah. Now I'm just like, whatever I'm hitting, I'm like 600 pound freaking leg press and I'm fucking crumbles in my I love it.
Speaker 2:I'm so jealous, you have a crumble oh man, it's good and it's bad.
Speaker 3:It's good, it's not like.
Speaker 1:Here's the reason that I started ordering yvr cookies, but I had to put that on a stop because like they're expensive as hell but they're so worth it. Oh my god. I know now I want one, but yeah as you were saying, like it's crazy.
Speaker 3:I'll, I'll tell people, I'll say, yeah, I haven't like lost a pound, really Like I just I just go to the gym and I just lift heavy and I just try my best to eat more protein and like try to eat like more like whole foods, you know, because I know it's good for my gut and things like that, you know. But for the most part I don't really care about nutrition as much as I should, but I'm really just lifting heavy. My sole focus is like eat big, get big, strength. What can I push in this gym and like what can my body do and like what can I push in this gym and like what can my body do and like what? What is it that I need to do for my body?
Speaker 3:I'm thinking now more for my body to perform. It's like it's a completely shifted mindset of. I'm no longer thinking what do I need to shrink my body, to be less, and now I'm thinking what do I need to get bigger in the ways that I want to get bigger? I want bigger muscles, I want to be able to do a pushup.
Speaker 1:I want to be able, yeah.
Speaker 3:I want to be able to. What now? What do I need to do to, like, run a mile? What do I need Like I signed myself and my, my oldest daughter and my neighbor, the one that I was on the live with we signed up for a 5k mud run.
Speaker 1:So now now.
Speaker 3:I'm like in the mindset of okay, what do I need to do to prep for that? So it's probably going to look like a lot of jogging and things now, now that it's warmer out, to prep for that. But I'm in the mindset solely of I don't really care what happens to my body. It's really cool to see new muscles and it's really fun. And like I'm not gonna say like I don't care at all about, like aesthetics or whatever, because it is super fun to see.
Speaker 3:But I'm more so in the mindset of like I want to see what my body can do and it's so much more exciting to see what my body can do and I'm so much prouder and I feel so much fulfillment, like so much that it's like before, like even two years ago, sure I'd step on the scale, I'd lose two pounds and I'd feel like, oh, my god, yay. But then the next week it would be like, oh, it's back up. And then instantly you feel like what am I doing wrong? Like, oh, this is not worth it. Like blah, blah, and you'd have this whole thing.
Speaker 3:Now it's like what can I lift in the gym? You lift it, it's it's never gonna like go down a lot. Like you're gonna keep pushing yourself, like you're gonna keep, you can always like lift the same, like you'll stay the same, or like, even if you little lift a little less, you can hit more reps. It's like, oh, my body is like, you can push your body in a way that is so much more like fulfilling. I guess. If I'm saying that, right, yeah, no, no, that makes sense. Yeah, and it's just, I don't know, it's nice and like the weight loss and like things like that. It kind of just like comes along for the ride but it's not the main focus at all and it just feels so much better and it's so much less taxing on the mind too, because yeah, that sounds like heaven.
Speaker 3:It is well like okay, so I have this. I use the renfo, right, so like, um, you can see, this was like does it show? Yeah, so like there's like a 10 pound drop over here and then since then, look at, it's been like maybe like a pound, a pound up and down. It stayed the exact same and it's. This is still like it stays the exact same, and I weigh myself and that's once a week. So what you're seeing there is once a week. I just weigh myself every Sunday.
Speaker 1:And it stayed pretty much exactly the same. Would you say that you're feeling better though. Oh, so much better, like nevermind what a scale says Like you feel good.
Speaker 3:Right. If I was in my old mindset, like two years ago, I would have looked at this and been like the scale isn't moving. What am I doing wrong? Why I doing wrong? Why am I not progressing? Because that would be all I see and all I equate success to. And now, now that it's like shifted completely, I'm like I'm doing leg press today and I like look in that like the sun is coming in through the window off my quad and I'm like when did that?
Speaker 2:get there? When did this problem where it's like I'll be in bed and like I just go to scratch wherever, and then I I feel muscle or like a new piece of loose skin. I'm like where, where'd that go?
Speaker 3:right I know I'll like, I'll literally do so. I'll put dishes away and trevor will be like oh, oh, you gotta see they'll like take a picture and I'll be like, look at your tricep. And I'll be like when the fuck did I get a tricep like the other day? I was when the fuck did I get a tricep Like the other day? I was looking in the mirror and I have this muscle like right here. This strip has like decided that it's a muscle now and I'm like when did?
Speaker 3:that happen, like it's so cool. And then I'm like, wow, like I wonder what I can do. So now that I've done those two pushups because I could never do a pushup Never, like I would try my hardest and I would just get kind of low and it just felt like my body would just give out that there was no possible way I would say to Trevor I'm like there's no way that I can get myself to the floor and get back up, like I just can't, like I legitimately can't do it, so can't, like I legitimately can't do it. So then to now be able to do it, it's so empowering, like I actually I'm like, oh my god, like I want to climb a mountain.
Speaker 3:Let's go scrambling. Like I feel like I could do a through hike, like there's nothing I can't do. Let's go rock climbing. Like what can I do now? Like it's just so exciting. It's almost like I'm in a new body where I'm like all these things that I could do that I couldn't before, and so now I want to do a pull-up yeah, that's my new thing.
Speaker 2:Oh nice, that was one of my when I first went to the gym, before I had Harper um, I wanted to do, um, an assisted pull-up. I wanted to be able to do five assisted pull-ups and I went back to the gym this time and I was able to do I I don't kick off, but I leave my foot to the side of it because just for balance kind of purposes. But now I can do 15, I can do three sets of five, which is amazing. But I can feel in my arms that it's like I'm pushing that to get there, because my arms are dead for like three days after I do it. But yeah, love that goal, that's great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what were? You saying Lisa. You were going to no, not Lisa, Chris, you were going to say something. Your name says Lisa. I was looking at it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I'm signed in as her, so that I get the recording.
Speaker 3:It came out of my mouth and I was like that's not Lisa.
Speaker 1:I was just saying I love that you focus on the things that you can do rather than things that you can't like. It's just. What is my body capable of? What is it not capable of doing? Yeah, it's just so exciting.
Speaker 3:It's just like I think of all the things now like that I couldn't do before and now it's just like I just want to do them all and even if I can't do it, I know that I can.
Speaker 3:I know that there are steps that I can take to get there and like that's what I want to do, right, and it just, it just feels so good, like so now, yeah, it's definitely a pull-up. Now, um, how I can do a pull-up now is only assisted. It's like it's so hard, they're so hard. It's not like, okay, it's my next thing, like I got. I just, I just want to be able to do it and it'll feel so good when is your push-up like?
Speaker 1:that is just when.
Speaker 2:I saw you do it.
Speaker 1:That was so amazing and it makes me want to be able to do that. Like it's the time when I couldn't do a um, what is it? Plank I guess for for a minute, and then I was able to do it by like the fourth or fifth time and I was so happy about it, but like a push-up, I haven't been able to do one my entire life like not even when I was in high school. So I can't say, I can't imagine trying to do that. But it's like listening to you just makes me want to try. You should, you can do it One day, one day, one day.
Speaker 3:You could, you could right, Like even I look at myself and I'm like I'm not at like peak physical fitness by any means necessary, but like the fact that I can do something that I couldn't before, that's all that matters, and I'm just like so happy about it the only thing I'm gonna throw in there of what you just said there, chris, was the one day.
Speaker 2:One day. There is that quote from the rock where it's. There is one for real it's like.
Speaker 3:So now, when I think of these things, I think of, okay, so how can I get there, instead of just having these goals where I'm like, okay, I want to be able to do this, and then it's just like kind of set it and forget it. It's okay, so what can I actually do to get there? So, for me, pull-ups it's like you start with assisted pull-ups in the gym, right and okay, what are the supporting muscles that are used to do a pull-up? I'll look those up and those are going to be the exercises I'm doing in the gym for the next couple months. So, if it's like your bicep or your triceps or whatever, I'm going to look up, okay, well, how do I exercise my triceps, what I need to do?
Speaker 3:Some of these, some of these, you know those are what I'm going to look up. Okay, well, how do I exercise my triceps? What do I need to do? Some of these, some of these, you know those are what I'm going to start doing. A lot of like videos say start with dead hangs. Okay, I'm going to start just hanging, just practicing hanging.
Speaker 3:And then I'll start doing things like that and then I'll attempt say, a month from now, I'm going to attempt to do a pull-up. If I still can't, it's okay, I'll just continue on the path. That's kind of what I did with push-ups. I'm doing bench press, which is basically a push-up right.
Speaker 1:Like the motion of it.
Speaker 3:So, the stronger you get, with that it's like, okay, let's see if I can do one, and then sure enough, there you go.
Speaker 1:When you first started doing strength training.
Speaker 3:How did you figure out what kind of routine you wanted? Um, when I first went into strength training, I kind of just walked around the gym and was doing, like this machine looks interesting, this one looks good, like let's try it. And it also helps that I'm always with Trevor, my fiance, because he's like a big, big dude and, like you know, like I feel not so nervous and like alone Cause I know like when you're alone it's a little bit more intimidating, like the gym is very kind of intimidating. So having him there with me helped a lot. But we just kind of like did exercises and then it just felt good to do the exercises. And then about two months in, I was like do the exercises. And then, about two months in, I was like, okay, I want to start seeing progress in specific areas. So if I want to do that, what do I need to do? Um, I need.
Speaker 3:And then basically just from like researching on tiktok and instagram and stuff, I learned that, um, your muscles need specific recovery time. So, like your upper body pretty much only needs like 24 hours to 36 hours or so, but your legs need longer. So you can do more upper body than you can lower body. So I was like, okay, how about we split it up? We'll do like an upper body day.
Speaker 3:Basically I looked at like, okay, the compound exercises that we do, so bench press, it's um, like chest and triceps. So I was like, okay, the day that we do bench press, we'll just make it a chest and tricep day, so we'll do exercises that are for the chest and the triceps only on that day and bench press and then do legs the next day. That way it gives 24 hours to be able to recover the upper body and then, after leg day, do back and biceps and then I have a rest day and then just kind of repeat it. So I just did it into a split and basically I just I utilize just TikTok a lot and Instagram me too, yeah, and I just I look up lots of Google, lots of Instagram, right?
Speaker 2:I just I'm just asking from a lost perspective because it's like I'm.
Speaker 1:I want to start. I've downloaded the heavy app, I'm interested and every weekend I keep saying I'm going to develop a routine of what I want to do and then. I don't, because if I don't have routine, I'm not going into the gym and just starting, because I just I refuse, because then I just stand there and then I start looking at my phone.
Speaker 3:You know, what you have to do is just pick one day to go into the gym and use every machine and just mark down.
Speaker 1:If you liked it or not, it's different, though, because I only use the gym at my work at this point.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:We're very limited and there's more free weights. There's a bench press, there's one of those ones that's like the assisted thing, where you can squat down and it's in the rock thing. There's a cable machine like where you can have even two sides going in, like this. And then there is a one with like a lat pull down, the leg curl thing is broken, and then there is a straightforward leg press, so, and then the rest is just cardio.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I know I've said that I'm going to send you one, and the reason I haven't yet is because I wanted to wait and get like. I'm seeing a personal trainer right now and I wanted to absorb all the information I could from him before sending you something instead of me going, and then I'm giving you something that could, like, end up hurting for sure.
Speaker 1:I, just like I do, know that I need to research myself as well, just to see what's right for my body. I'm being just lazy about it because I actively am working against it, because I've never enjoyed strength training, I find it boring and repetitive, whereas, like, I don't find it boring walking on a treadmill in one place, but it's because I'm zoned into like a show or something you know. But I'm not going to be zoned into a show while lifting weights and I, just what am I doing? Staring at myself in the mirror lifting, and I don't. I, I see the joy that it brings you and Lisa and I don't have that spark. But maybe if I try doing it for a little bit, maybe I'll develop that spark.
Speaker 3:Maybe I have to see a muscle coming through, I don't know well, that's why I was saying like to just try every machine or exercise, whatever, not, but you don't have machines, right. But because I find you have to find the ones that you like, because like dumbbells, machines, cables, they can all work the exact same muscle, so you can kind of just pick which you prefer to do. So if you like the cables, better then stick to the cables. If you like using dumbbells, better stick to the dumbbells, kind of thing, versus if you like a machine, then stay on the machine. So that's why I say like try, because to me I was the same.
Speaker 3:I was like oh, like the gym is so boring, it's just the same. Like you're just like doing the same thing over and over again. It's like what's the point? Like it's so boring. But now it's a little different because I just find things that I like and I'll even say to Trevor we'll do something for a month and I'm like I don't like this. Like hip thrusts, I've decided I don't like them they kind of scare me.
Speaker 3:They make me feel like I might throw out my back and I'm just like I'm not about this and it's making me dread leg day. So I was like you know what? Why am I doing them?
Speaker 2:I'm not doing it anymore. I had the exact same experience because I made a workout called booty blaster. It's on heavy and I'm like I'm gonna do this and my husband's like but then you gotta do hip thrusts and I'm like, no, I don't. And he's like but I did put them on there because, like, that's just you know the go-to thing when you're talking about your glutes and your booty. But it's like there's so many other things that you can do. I just go in and swap it out with the other stuff, like, yes, yeah, yeah, I think the most uh movement, though, was good.
Speaker 1:I'm so sorry. I think the movement is good in hip thrust, where you don't necessarily have to do it with a weight like I. Feel like that movement is still good for your hips, isn't it?
Speaker 2:You can bridge you can also hinge, like there's. There's other movements and other exercises that you can do to get the same motion from it. But like, so, like to your point, heather, like I have that same thing, like the feeling of having my feet on the ground and then just half my back on the bench and then throw, like the pinpoints of where the weight to where the bench is, always makes me feel like this is going to hurt my back every single time. Now we do have what we call that I got the name of this from the booty blaster but it's like an actual hip thrusting machine where there is a um. It's almost like the bench that you can lay on to do the bench presses, um, but it it turns. So your back stays on it the whole time and goes up and down and the weight goes on your hips there.
Speaker 2:That one I'm okay with, I prefer that. But just doing hip thrusts like free weights, uh, it, yeah, I can't do them. Like to your point, I feel like I'm going gonna hurt my back. And to somebody who does hurt their back pretty easily, like, I usually avoid full-on back stuff. I usually do back stuff as a secondary muscle, not a primary muscle thing.
Speaker 3:Because of that yeah, but yeah, you're right, the bridge is good for your hips and your back, like even just without weights. That's typically what like a hip thrust goes into what's called like a cast bridge or whatever, so you can just do a bridge without weights. But yeah, those hip, that's the hip thrust.
Speaker 2:See.
Speaker 3:I actually I do what you just said where you like. Don't do things for your back, use it as secondary muscle. That is why, from my routine, I started doing a back day is because I know my back is so weak that I was like I need to strengthen my back as much as possible, because I had a back injury like two years ago and it was like the most excruciating pain of my life and I couldn't do anything for months. And I was like I never want to feel that again.
Speaker 1:Never.
Speaker 3:Like I need a strong back, like I, oh my God. So now back and bicep day, it's like mostly back exercises, because in my mind I'm like I really, really need to strengthen it. And when I do crunches, do you ever get it? Have you ever tried to do a bunch of crunches or sit-ups and it just hurts your back so badly Like I can't even do like 20 before my back is killing me and I'm like okay.
Speaker 2:I need to strengthen my back. I, when I do crunches, I don't usually do them like on the mat, I usually use the crunch machine. Uh, which isn't. It doesn't put any pressure on my back at that point. I do struggle with the leg press. When I'm on the leg press, I get a lot of pressure on my tailbone I find, um, so I don't typically do the free weight one I want to do. When I do that one like it, I I go hard on it, um, but I don't do it as often as I want to because it just kills my lower back. Versus the other, the horizontal ones, I'm sliding my back this one. I feel like there's just a lot of pressure on my back.
Speaker 3:You know what's interesting? It's, I think a lot of the time it's the angle of the chair too, because we have two gym memberships. We have one membership that's like we have a family pass because my kids are included, has child minding and everything, and then we have like a little cheapo 499 gym membership to fit for less, which is like a 24 hour the leg press machine at fit for less. I can only lift like 373 pounds on it. It feels the same. When I'm at the rec center I can lift like 553 pounds and they feel the same. And the difference is the angle of the chairs, like the angle of it. So like I feel like the one at the fit for less is way too leaned back. It doesn't give me the same like incline as the one at the rec center, whereas the incline at the rec center feel so much better on my back that I can just go hard and lift that weight so heavy. But then at the other gym it's like I feel like a little weakling, like I can't.
Speaker 2:I can only do half the weight totally it's the incline of that stupid chair on heavy, I think they call it. There's the horizontal one and then the other one. I can't remember what the other one is called, but the horizontal one is an incline. Incline. Yes, yeah, the horizontal one is the fit for less one right, so they're both incline that's the thing, that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3:It's the, it's the different depth of the incline on that, the chair itself. So, like I don't, even so, when I'm at fit for less, I actually take, you know, the bar that goes around, the, the barbell, when you're doing squats. I put that underneath my lower back to bridge that gap. I should try that it helps a lot.
Speaker 2:I should try that, because I actually bought my own of the foam things because, like I go to good life and they, I couldn't find one anywhere. So it was like, okay, I'm just gonna get my own. And I also got my own bands, like the ones for the cables, which, um, I'm so glad I did because the first time I tried cables my ankles were sweating. So I was just like if I was using the public cable thing, like imagine the amount of sweat on those right, right.
Speaker 2:I know I bought my own yeah, yeah, so that's a good idea. I should try that. Not this week, because I still I have my last three sessions with the personal trainer this week and then I go back to my normal schedule and I'm actually going to be changing up some stuff because, like I went to, I feel like I went down this spiral of I want to eat junk, but it's okay if I eat junk, if I add protein to it, and that's been like my spiral over the last like month, maybe two months, kind of thing. Um, so I'm actually going to be changing. I'm shifting my eating habits because, as you guys know, I'm psychotic and I get up at three in the morning to go to the gym.
Speaker 2:And I know, and when I was talking to my personal trainer, he was like, okay, so like what's your routine like? And I said how I'm up at three in the morning, I go to the gym, I do all this, and then I'm usually having my first thing to eat around 8am. And he's like you get up that early in the morning, don't eat anything, have a hard workout, and you're not eating anything for five hours. And I was like, yes, he's like yeah, you should probably not do that. So I'm taking my dinner calories thing and I'm moving it to that 3am spot is my plan, because I'm having dinner some nights at like nine o'clock at night because I'm so freaking busy with my kid and like commuting and yada, yada, yada. So, um, if I'm eating at nine o'clock at night, I don't feel like eating at 3 30 in the morning before I go to the gym right so.
Speaker 2:I'm taking dinner time out and I'm moving it to that 3am slot and my plan is to like eat like a quick protein bite thing, uh, before the gym do the gym, come home, have a bigger breakfast with Harper Um, and then that becomes that main meal. I don't know how it's going to go, but I'm and that's not starting this week, I'm starting that when I go back to the 3am slot the week after. So I'll see how that goes. But because I can't just start eating at 3am, because then at that point I'm overeating, like because I'm already I'm already overeating as it is, so adding another meal, it's just going to be constant eating all day.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's where I'm at. Are you drinking a premier protein and stuff in the morning? It's just just going to say that.
Speaker 2:Every time I miss it.
Speaker 1:I can tell because I'm so hungry.
Speaker 2:Not while I'm at the gym and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Like I don't have it in the gym.
Speaker 2:No, not until eight o'clock when I have my breakfast.
Speaker 3:See, I would try for a week having that premier protein first thing in the morning and then that's like your pre-workout meal. Even just what I've been doing lately actually is the premier protein and just like a little bowl of fruit or a banana or something, and that's what I eat before I go to the gym, because I don't like going to the gym on a full stomach. But I also don't want an empty stomach either, because I've noticed I can't lift as heavy I'll start getting dizzy in my head like I'll go like, oh, like.
Speaker 1:That one was like, oh, like oh my god, the people that don't um fear bananas. If you mix a chocolate premier protein or a chocolate fair life with some ice cubes and a banana, or you can freeze the banana instead, uh, it tastes like a chocolate frosty from wendy's someone told me that once in the comments and it's delicious, I would love to have that before the gym.
Speaker 2:But my child is a me. That once in the comments and it's delicious, I would love to have that before the gym. But my child is a sleeping at three in the morning and be uh, terrified of the blender, absolutely petrified of my blender.
Speaker 1:I don't know why, but she is terrified of the blender I, uh, I used to take mine to the furthest room because I would be blending and rams would be working from home. So I just bring it into the bathroom and blend it in there, love it love it um, do you want me to do a listen bitch?
Speaker 2:yeah what the hell's? A listen bitch, listen bitch, are aggressive affirmation cards, so I just shuffle them up and then we read one at the end of the podcast and that is the affirmation for the week. I like it. Yeah, all right. So here we are. This is the one I'm getting good vibes. Oh, there's two here. You want the black one or the pink one?
Speaker 3:you need to do both if there's two stuck together it's a sign from the universe.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, we'll start with the black one. Oh wow, listen, bitch, your opinions aren't tattoos, you can change them anytime. That's a good one. I like that. That is a slap in the face. I mean not a slap in the face, but it's like an awakening slap in the face. It's not a like, listen, you're stupid. Slap in the face. Not a like, listen, you're stupid. Slap in the face. It's like a wake up slap in the face. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that also because, like I mean listen to our podcast, like our opinions have changed from things from season one oh my god episode like two or three is talking about weight watchers and I really listened to that episode and I was just like girls, no, stop it all right.
Speaker 1:So our pink ones are us. Oh god, our mentality back then uh, your ending is still unwritten.
Speaker 2:It's never too late to create a life you love. I like both of those a lot. Those two were great. I like him. I'm very happy with those. Have you seen that thing? That was trending? That was like, um, people are putting QR codes on their stones, like their. Oh yeah, oh my God, yes. And the one came across and it was like somebody scanned it and it was like a couple, like an old couple. Both of them were buried side by side and he scanned the qr code and it was like videos of their life together. I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna cry. This is so amazing and yeah and like, but you could put that on anything, like you could put that on tombstones, you could put that on urns. I think that's adorable.
Speaker 3:I feel like I'd roll somewhere. I was just gonna say that. I was just gonna say that I was like mine would be, like they'd be like, oh, let's look at her life and be like never gonna give up okay, well, I love that you were able to join us today and talk about.
Speaker 1:I swear to god, thank you so much for talking about the sourdough thing. Like that's not the only thing, I'm focusing on, but I really really appreciate it I just need you to know the sourdough.
Speaker 3:Highlight, highlight of the podcast.
Speaker 2:When I listen to this next week while I'm at the gym, I will be having a notepad with me. Okay, what measurements did she say for that?
Speaker 3:you know what? Who actually like helped me? It was, uh, sadie's sourdough, I think that's who it is on TikTok. I'll send it to you because she has a whole like. She's like day one this is how you feed your starter. And then she's like day two, let's feed it again. Day three let's discard some. She does it step by step, so I just kind of like followed along with her and it was very easy, like she made it very easy I love it.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, chris, and the podcast before we start talking about it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be sending heather a message later.
Speaker 3:Dm me anytime, instagram tiktok, whatever.
Speaker 1:Instagram is probably better for messages uh, I could start talking all the time. Could you let everyone know your handles?
Speaker 3:oh uh. A lot of people seem to think it's mine moderation. It is not. It's me in moderation, like you're seeing snippets of my life in moderation. Get it.
Speaker 1:I thought that was clever, but apparently no it totally is, but I read it before as what you said originally. And yeah, and anytime you have come up, I'm like mine and then I'm like me in moderation yeah.
Speaker 3:so yeah, it's me in moderation, but on instagram it's heather in moderation. Heather with a y h e a t h's Heather in moderation. Heather with a Y H-E-A-T-H-Y-R in moderation D'link. That'll be my intro, love it.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you again for joining us and I hope to see you back in here again.
Speaker 3:Thanks, thanks for having me. I was honored. Yay, yay, yay, thank you. Bye guys, bye.