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Resilience, Innovation, and Happiness: Nimrod Vromen on Leveraging Cultural Identity and AI for Personal Growth
What can the name Nimrod teach us about resilience, innovation, and happiness? In this episode, we welcome Nimrod Vromen, a prominent figure in the high-tech industry, for a captivating discussion about his inspiring journey, cultural identity, and groundbreaking work with startups. Vromen opens up about his unique name, its cultural connotations, and how he has leveraged stereotypes to fuel his success. Drawing inspiration from visionaries like Elon Musk and Michael Jordan, Raman delves into how AI can enhance personal growth and happiness in our fast-paced world.
Join us as we explore the dynamic interplay between culture and identity, reflecting on the personal significance of names like Nimrod and Omar. Vromen shares heartwarming family anecdotes, including stories of grandparents who have lived through different eras, and offers a contrasting view of life in Australia versus Israel. The conversation shifts to Vromen's innovative startups, ARK and Posterity, and their potential to revolutionize professional services and preserve personal histories. These initiatives underscore the importance of learning from past generations and valuing personal narratives in shaping our future.
Finally, Vromen introduces his unique theory for sustainable contentment and the role of AI in achieving it. We discuss the importance of promoting personal work, reverse-engineering moments of happiness, and fostering a positive mindset. Vromen also shares his experiences as an author and entrepreneur, emphasizing the significance of balancing professional ambitions with personal growth. This episode promises to be an enlightening journey through the realms of technology, personal development, and the pursuit of happiness, offering listeners valuable insights and practical wisdom.
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What can the name Nimrod teach us about resilience, innovation, and happiness? In this episode, we welcome Nimrod Vromen, a prominent figure in the high-tech industry, for a captivating discussion about his inspiring journey, cultural identity, and groundbreaking work with startups. Vromen opens up about his unique name, its cultural connotations, and how he has leveraged stereotypes to fuel his success. Drawing inspiration from visionaries like Elon Musk and Michael Jordan, Raman delves into how AI can enhance personal growth and happiness in our fast-paced world.
Join us as we explore the dynamic interplay between culture and identity, reflecting on the personal significance of names like Nimrod and Omar. Vromen shares heartwarming family anecdotes, including stories of grandparents who have lived through different eras, and offers a contrasting view of life in Australia versus Israel. The conversation shifts to Vromen's innovative startups, ARK and Posterity, and their potential to revolutionize professional services and preserve personal histories. These initiatives underscore the importance of learning from past generations and valuing personal narratives in shaping our future.
Finally, Vromen introduces his unique theory for sustainable contentment and the role of AI in achieving it. We discuss the importance of promoting personal work, reverse-engineering moments of happiness, and fostering a positive mindset. Vromen also shares his experiences as an author and entrepreneur, emphasizing the significance of balancing professional ambitions with personal growth. This episode promises to be an enlightening journey through the realms of technology, personal development, and the pursuit of happiness, offering listeners valuable insights and practical wisdom.
Join the What if it Did Work movement on Facebook
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I never told no one that my whole life I've been holding back. Every time I load my gun up so I can shoot for the star, I hear a voice like who do you think, all right, everybody, another day, another dollar, another one of my favorite episodes of my favorite podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm biased, it's my own podcast. What if it did work? This? I've had international guests, but I've never had one from the promised land, the holy land. Six hours, seven hours, eight hours I'm horrible at math, but he's up. It's way early in the morning or late at night, whichever one you want to say.
Speaker 2:Nirad Raman with over 15 years of hands-on experience in the high-tech sector, he's been a guiding force for hundreds of startups, helping them navigate from inception through their entire life cycle. As a founder and CEO of Consigliere and ARK Empowerment LTD, and the co-founder of FounderRunwaycom and for Prosperityai, roman influenced it extends globally, providing innovative consulting services and fostering a vibrant platform for entrepreneurs and investors and prompting happiness. The new book that comes out july 1st. It's an amazing book. I'm reading it as we speak well, not as we speak right now, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Roman confronts the complexities of modern life and challenges posed by increasingly digital society. Drawing inspiration from visionaries like the Elon Musk and icons like Michael Jordan, he explores the potential of AI and enhancing personal growth and happiness. Ai man like Cyberdyne and Skynet I don't know about that, man, when you're my age. But through practical advice, inspiring anecdotes and a touch of humor, roman illustrates how embracing technology can lead to a more balanced and fulfilling life. Ultimately, roman's story is one of resilience and self-discovery. By sharing his journey and the lessons learned, he offers readers a unique roadmap for navigating life's unpredictability and finding true happiness. His work stands as a testament to the power of embracing change and the strength found in personal evolution. Welcome, brother Shalom.
Speaker 3:Shalom. Thank you so much. What an intro. I'm stressed by it Dude.
Speaker 2:Some of those words, man, I'm glad I went to. I know you're an attorney, but, heck, man, I graduated from a public university. So, consigliere and all those, those were big words, man. My book only had like two I like very short words two syllables. You had like four syllables, five syllables I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Man, welcome, thank you.
Speaker 3:You did very well. Thank you very much. Yeah, I don't know how all these longer words came in there.
Speaker 2:I was actually trying to leave the legal profession and the long words behind, but somehow some of them survived the change I've gotta ask, ask you this man, I know you grew up with crocodile dundee, very beginning in australia, but here, man from bugs, bunny and all that, were you teased with an I I thought, I thought literally, when your publicist, I thought it was a typo when it said nimrod, because no, that that's not his name, that that's like, that's like calling someone schmuck, like, like schmuck, jones is a first name, that's right.
Speaker 3:I was definitely. You know I thought I'd get out of it Because Australia, actually the Australian people, didn't know the negative connotation of the term Nimrod and I explained it in my book. The first chapter of the book explores my name because it's something I've been dealing with over the years. It's actually a derogatory term for two completely separate reasons. One is the biblical meaning of the word it's a king, it's someone who basically from a hunter became a king and then decided that he needed to hunt God, and the only way that he could think of hunting God in a primitive world was to build a tower way up into the sky, and that was the Tower of Babel. So it was basically a building contractor and so that's so, so so actually, judaism and Islam agree to hate Nimrod, hate on Nimrod because that caused the Tower of Babel to collapse and all conflict to evolve. But in America it evolved as a negative term for completely different reasons.
Speaker 3:English-speaking countries that were either British or colonized by England they respected the name. Expeditions are named Nimrod. There's a big classical piece named Nimrod coming out of England, but in the US there was a Bugs Bunny episode, as you mentioned, in 1944. All the movies started with a Looney Tunes episode and Elmer Fudd is hunting either Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck and one of them sarcastically says to Elmer Fudd oh you, poor little Nimrod. So Nimrod was a great hunter and Elmer Fudd is trying to be Nimrod, but the audience understood. Ok, elmer Fudd is Nimrod and that's it. Nimrod is just that he's a buffoon, like a bumbling buffoon, and I was free of this in Australia for a while. But just as I turned 16 and it really mattered to my confidence, green Day came out with an album called Nimrod Nimrod the biggest album, yeah, and they published it that year and there were posters all over the place and it was very clear that the nimrods there were not, uh, competent individuals, to say the least, and it became like a source of heckling for me.
Speaker 2:Well, because the american idiot, they even sing you know, yeah, you know. And what people portray, you know, and I get it, man, you know. Whenever we go anywhere in this, in this world, whether it's the promised land, or when I took my family to Rome, the Vatican and Italy, you could tell the Americans. They stand out like a sore thumb and they want to be like the Nimrod, they want to be like the idiot. Oh, we're American. Where's our McDonald's, where's our Walmart? It's like thank you, thank you for keeping the stereotype alive, guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is. It has, yeah, it has been exported from the US all over the world with.
Speaker 2:America. I feel you because you're going to laugh. But growing up, I mean, my grandparents named me Omar. My grandfather was still alive. He's going to turn 100 in July. That's amazing. Yeah, great history buff. So he named me after a white guy, omar Bradley General. Omar Bradley, World War II general, five star. And my grandmother loved Omar buff, so he named me after a white guy, omar bradley general. Omar bradley, world war ii general, five star.
Speaker 2:And my grandmother loved omar sharif from dr zhivago and and that's where the name came, and it was like, throughout the times, you know, they're like, oh, he's muslim and it's like I'm catholic, for starters, and my family's colombian. I mean, the only south we, my family's, from is south america, but it was like that. It would always like like my, with my ex-wife and I, we, we got married and we were in pearl harbor for our honeymoon, hawaii and an Asian woman over her, I guess she was from New York. She's like hey, omar, how's it going? And she asked me like how, you know, how did it make me feel about the World Trade Center? And later on I told Millie, my ex-wife, you know, later on I'm like irony is she's Japanese-American. I could have asked her how she feel like yeah, when you were there.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, don't worry, brother. But yeah, yeah, I get it, man, I get it. But Australia, what brought you back to the promised land? But Australia.
Speaker 3:what brought you back to the promised land? I'll answer. I was just going to say that I was going to ask you if your grandfather was still alive, because I heard the TEDx talk. I think it was 99. It would have been like a year ago, yeah he's still going to be 100.
Speaker 2:And my grandmother just turned 95. Yeah, yeah, they're both alive and well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, beautiful my grandmother just turned 95. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're both alive and well, yeah, beautiful, yeah, so that connects to Australia for me because, um, my father had two roles. My father had two uh jobs there for three and a half years, each stint when I was six to nine and I was 13 to 17, and he had a chance to renew. We lived in Melbourne but my mother was actually 22 years, uh, israeli military veteran, and she said we have to go back to Israel because this is a duty that people, that all Israelis have, and Nimrod's going to have to go as well. Um and uh, I came back when I was 17, finished high school and went there.
Speaker 3:But, ironically, you know connection with your grandfather. My grandfather from my father's side lives in Sydney and has lived in Sydney for over 60 years and he's not, he's just turned 94, turning 94 really soon. So I connect very much, I look up to him a lot as well, but I left him there. I visited since maybe 20 or 30 times and I came back because my father didn't renew his contract there and continue to live here. I was happy to come back. Australia is no worries attitude is very, very nice to taste and to feel for, say, a vacation or a one year stint and to feel for, say, a vacation or a one-year stint. But if you come from a fast-paced region and I think you might appreciate that as well it's difficult to completely slow down and just no worries. Actually, maybe worries are, maybe they do keep you a bit, you know, up and about.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm a little older than you, but growing up everybody wanted to. I mean, that's why the outback restaurant was, because at the time crocodile dundee came out and everything men at work, the band and everything, everything australia was like, oh, super cool, super cool. So, yeah, we always had this love, even though Outback is nothing from Australia it's actually headquartered and founded in Tampa yeah, Well it's romanticized.
Speaker 3:There are many merits to it. I've been to Australia many times, including this year twice already, but home is here nonetheless. I know and.
Speaker 2:I read CEO of two companies. Not only that founder man, how did you find time to run two companies, write a book and be happy, since you did write a book about happiness.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and be happy. Since you know you, you did write a book about happiness, yeah, um. So I, for the past 16 years I was a corporate lawyer. I've been shadowing founders of startup companies, um, you know, through their entire life cycles and I've sort of lived vicariously through their ventures. But I, uh, always wanted to be an entrepreneur.
Speaker 3:I think about, I spend a lot of time thinking about the future, trying to think about the future by learning from the past and looking into history as well. And because I went into law. I went into law as a ticket to view entrepreneurship and innovation, not to be a contract writer or a lawyer, so, and I stayed there because a lot of the companies that I started representing in the beginning were big success stories in my law firm's brain. The people there are really nice and it just converged into a sort of like a pleasant golden cage. But I always was critical of the system that I was in, because I think that it is going to undergo significant change over the next few years, predominantly because of generative AI and the ability to create written content very fast. So over the last three years we sort of dabbled in providing a wider range of consulting services. That's conciliary.
Speaker 2:It's the Latin term for trusted, confidant or a role in the mob, depending if you're watching godfather or not, I was going to say I know it from latin and I also know it from watching enough goodfellas, enough of the godfather and the sopranos to know what it. You know the consigliore, but the role, what the role is in the hierarchy?
Speaker 3:Interestingly not a criminal. That's the role that sort of launders that it runs the. It knows all the secrets but it runs the legitimate businesses of the mob, which is a lot like a lawyer. A lawyer will know under attorney-client privilege a lot of your little shenanigans, but we'll sort of handle the legal stuff. So Concilieri provided a wider range of services. But what ARC is?
Speaker 3:Arc is and that's why it's named that way. It sits on professional service providers and consultants and it learns their behavior, especially experienced ones like 40 and up who've been there for 20 years, and it basically reverse engineers their thought process into prompts for generative AI. And then the generative AI writes but has to go through a repository of documents that they normally create, like contracts, business one-pagers, decks. I know that what you do is. I know I've seen that you're an expert. You said you didn't know numbers, but you know numbers very well when you revive businesses. Obviously I read the website. So there are repetitive documents for this right. You bring your expertise and context that you learn from your client, but you go through a funnel of structured documents. You don't create a new document altogether. Next time you have to amend it to what your clients need and build special plans, but it's within this framework. So if I could mimic your thought process, you could scale and engage many companies and they would have immediate plans and deliverables, and then you wouldn't have to rely on humans to create them and only your time will be spent with the client, giving them the advice, live and learning the context. So that's ARK, but actually it's spelled A-R-K, like Noah's Ark, because what we're trying to build is a Noah's Ark for the service provider, for the best of breed service providers, to come in, because what we're trying to build is a Noah's Ark for the best of breed service providers to come in, because we believe the generative AI is a flood. That's Ark and posterity just the one last one that you mentioned there, that one I'm really excited about, and because you continue to refer to the past in a lot of the things that you talk about, I think you'll really love this.
Speaker 3:Posterity is the same architecture as ARC. It mimics a person, but not a professional service provider, a ghostwriter, and it goes through an LLM to write and, instead of going through business documents, it goes through formats of books. That's what I learned when I wrote. Prompting Happiness is how to write books, and it basically will enable youies of your grandfather by coloring the story that he's telling, identifying the main live events that he's speaking about and coloring it like a book and then creating little story arcs between the characters and finally issuing him a biography, but not to become a bestseller, just to put on your bedside table, so that when you have real time to listen to your grandfather even if it's after his time you will have his lessons learned from life.
Speaker 3:And for me that's a very meaningful company that was sort of founded on the side of ARK and I hope both of them will bring about some real change. But to be fair, one last thing for humility these are startups. We're still raising money. To be fair, one last thing for humility these are startups, we're still raising money. I could be at your doorstep asking for a business revival in about three or four months.
Speaker 2:So you know what? Uber was a startup, apple was a startup at one time. Starbucks, disney World, everything was a startup. Man, you're showing humility right there there. But in order to be great, you have to be good. To be good, you have to start. So you, you had at least a vision to start and to implement, because on paper, you know, you and I could be having a couple of pints and talking all this shit and saying this is this is what we want companies to do one day.
Speaker 2:But you know until it actually gets you know, in the process, startup phase or whatnot, it's just all talk. So, no, definitely Congratulations and what you said best. Think about this, because I do believe and I wrote two books, but I do believe, everybody has a book within them Because, you know, we all have stories, we all want to leave behind a legacy, because imagine if we could tap into our great-grandfather, our grandfather, all these the past is knowledge and, yeah, a secret. One of the reasons why I always talk about the past like that and bring up stuff, whether it's pop culture, I have a degree. My second degree is just as meaningless as my first. I have a meaningless degree in history.
Speaker 3:Love history, love history Me history, me too, man.
Speaker 2:That's why that's why you know, we, we, you know we spoke a little about the biblical history and then the aspects of where you live and whatnot before. But you know it's people also don't. Really, it's like that cliche saying if you don't know your past, you're gonna do the same mistake over and over again. And usually that's what happens. Either people forget and they step into the same hole over and over again, or they're so focused on oh my gosh, yeah, you have a startup, you had the courage. But what a lot of people do is they always focus on why it can't work. Because, oh my gosh, that girl broke up with me in eighth grade, right, you know, people hold on to their failures.
Speaker 2:It's like you know one of your, one of the people that inspires you, and you have a painting right behind Michael Jordan. He even said it. Or even Wayne Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky said you miss all the shots you don't take and and you know they were. They perfect? No, but they were good enough and they kept on. I mean, were they human? Michael jordan could have quit after high school, after getting cut from his high school basketball team, but he, he focused. He used that as fuel. You can either use a fuel to push you forward whenever you have a setback, or you can create a story, and most people like to live in their story. Oh my gosh, you know I'm a failure. No man, that's just an event I love that.
Speaker 3:I think we could really. I think it would be more than a. I fully agree with everything, with, with, with posterity. For me, it's even biblical, even though I'm not, I don't really practice a lot, but I think about it a lot and I and I read about it a lot. For me, it's the, it's the commandment of respecting your parents. I think that's what that commandment means, is to listen to them, because they have something to say.
Speaker 3:But I also think that it's in the, the, the, the, the need to, to, to learn from the past to the future and to transfer information, hopefully through writing or through content, like even this show is um. I think that physics, uh, shows that everything is going towards chaos and the only way to prevent chaos is through order, and order is created with information being passed on. Whereas in the past this is from a friend of mine, asaf Kiriboy is a very smart person and whereas in the past information was passed on through DNA, today we're able to generate a lot of content and if we could just take it from this one generation that lived through a very important 50, 60 years before us, I think we're going to learn a lot and we're going to see a lot of interesting data in the big data if we collect many stories.
Speaker 2:You have so much think about this. Growing up, for me, to get knowledge, to get, to get any information, my mom had to answer the door to the guy selling encyclopedias door to door, and then he wouldn't send them all at the same time and he wouldn't even send them in order. He would send like your first one would be x for some odd reason, and then, and then you know by the time you got a through z, all that information was obsolete anyways yeah, now it's in the, now it's in the palm of your hand now it's in the palm of your hand.
Speaker 2:so, but instead of gathering information on how to create a side hustle, how to sell a book, how to create a book, people are watching viral videos of people acting stupid all over the world that, um my uh, you know my book somehow attracts people to world war.
Speaker 3:Uh, less than the fewer and fewer reading because of the way that we structured it.
Speaker 2:But um, put it to you this way I could tell right off the bat that your, your book is in service, your book. But I've only read like 50 pages, 40 pages out of the 400. Everybody got it yesterday. It's not because I didn't try, but I could tell One. It was informative. Two, you were honest. You know so many people. You said, hey, man, I used ai as a tool. Now I that blew my mind because you know people.
Speaker 2:People are fearful of saying you know they. They want to come across as like they're the next william shakespeare when it comes to writing. Or you know that they have all these filters on their, their face and they look 20, even they're. They're 50. You know we, we live in a fake world. And then also, you're writing a book.
Speaker 2:You wrote a book on happiness. You know, I didn't know what happiness. One happiness everybody wants to, a definition of happiness. And there's like success, man, happiness is whatever you make of it. You can make $5 million a year and be unhappy. You can make $5 million a year and not be successful. It's just from within. So, yeah, the, the a homeless person can be, both that they find happiness within and success from within.
Speaker 2:I mean this, this book prompting happiness I probably would have needed 30 years ago, 20 years ago it wasn't I'm a slow learner. It took me millions, millions of dollars, I'd say at least hundreds of thousands of dollars, of going to gurus and going to all these seminars, personal development, business development, thinking that God would just create, like open up the heavens and go, omar this. Well, here Adononai aronai comes and he says he says, omar, this, I gave moses moysha the 10 commandments, but I'm giving you the keys to happiness and to success. And it never happened. It wasn't until I you know it's all from within. I could have said, you know, all this money, all this aggravation, but yeah, no. And I have to ask you, man, did you actually have those notes still on your definition of what happiness was as a teenager?
Speaker 3:from your book, yeah. So the yes. I don't know what got into me when I was 16, but I was writing a diary is full of stupid stories. And then the eighth entry in this diary is called oh yeah. And it's a decision of mine to lay out some theory of happiness for my future self, and it's in the beginning of the book. This theory of happiness is is, is, is. It talks about contentment and living in the moment as happiness. It's that. That definition for me has evolved over time. Um, obviously, and it's discussed at the end of the book that um, um, and I can get into that a little bit, but but what it does, is it it?
Speaker 3:What I tried to lay out for myself is there are things that are non-negotiable. If I were to try to provide advice to others, there are things that are non-negotiable. When I was 16, for me they were relationships, money and a positive and prejudiceless approach to life. It's non-negotiable. You have to work on staying positive, having a positive approach, even in the face of adversity, and that's developed a lot for me here in this country, because there is adversity, but also being without prejudice. Because there is adversity but also being without prejudice. I see a lot of people who believe that their problems are caused from the outside and then they look for blame, when actually start by assuming everyone's best intentions. It will make you feel safer inside. It doesn't mean that everyone's okay. Even people who might be acting with their best intentions still might be causing you harm and should be. You know not. You know they should be deleted from your life. But don't think that they are waking up in the morning with the goal of, you know, of causing you pain. Nobody's a villain in their own story. They don't wake up in the morning and say I'm going to be the Bond villain of the day. So those three are non-negotiable. And back then, when I was 16, money was one of those components.
Speaker 3:And then, when it was the second tier in this three-tier theory is not non-negotiable. It can be personalized, but it's things that you need to. What I thought was I need to commit to processes like I don't want to already aim for short-term, small tangibles like a car. I want to have processes that I commit to, like learning how to love food and appreciate food of all kinds. Learning how to dance I didn't know how to dance back then. Right now you're speaking to me after my weekly salsa uh club night when, which I've been doing for 15 years um, sports used to be basketball, now it's snowboarding, etc. And then this, and everybody can choose their own thing. It can be yoga, it can be mindfulness, it can be writing or knitting, but processes things that define your identity, that you commit to for 10, 15 years.
Speaker 3:And then the top tier, which is smaller, of this triangle, is completely personalized. It's the things that we like, the small things that you know. Just get a few wins. Get a few small wins and aim for them, and I felt like if I approached life that way, then I would achieve sustainable contentment, which is something that I like to feel. So it's never going to be perfect, but if you have a plan, then even if you're performing at seven on something or at six out of 10, knowing the Delta is what makes it perfect Cause then you have a plan on how to fulfill the Delta. You don't have to be 10 at everything. That's not. That's also not so much fun. There's a. Then you're very expensive to make happy if you're a 10 at everything, but if you know always, you know what, what you want to make up for then and what your plan is for it. That's for me, happiness, having an optimistic outlook and a plan going forward.
Speaker 3:And then I went you know, I'm 42 and I went into this like sort of like midlife introspective period Some might call it a crisis, some might call it a journey and I found these notes. And as I find these notes, I'm playing around with GPT and with AI and I'm like these notes on happiness are really technical and structured, almost like a really convoluted prompt for chat, gpt and the convoluted context-based prompts. They get me the best results and this theory sort of guided me along the way. It was pretty good. Maybe I'll rewrite it now, at 42, now that I have something to say to others and who might listen, by going through this journey with AI.
Speaker 3:So basically, the book is like an arc. It has the original theory, some framework of thought on our purpose here on this planet, sort of like basic philosophy, with my twists and turns. Then there's like an intermission, a log of conversations with ChatGPT as how I sort of befriend it in a way as a co-author of the book, some prophecies for the future, because I think that if we go through a midlife crisis or a midlife journey and we don't think about how the future is going to be different from the past, then coming to conclusions based on your past without trying to assess what the future is going to look like might also be futile, especially if you're at the precipice of big change, like now with AI coming in, or after the Second World War, where, okay, I can learn from the past, but now there's an atomic bomb, so maybe I should think about the future in a world with an atomic bomb that affects our reality. So there's some prophecies and then at the end of the book I land on an updated theory and a list of self prompts. Like I myself, like gpt, like I will prompt myself on the different fronts of life body, uh, money, relationships, uh, uh, positive approach to life and and all the rest of them.
Speaker 3:I have these like lists and I add to them.
Speaker 3:I listen to someone like you and I hear something, um, like the speak I I'd call your TEDx talk, like the speak up prompt, and then I write it as a prompt in my, either in my money tier or my entrepreneurship tier I'd add it there. And I have this like list and I run these prompts on myself when I'm in an uncomfortable state. And one last comment that's a structure, but in the middle of the book, somewhere, just as a surprise, there's a very big technological I guess leap. I got GPT through hundreds of prompts to read the entire first part of the book and to write a mirror to it, write its own thoughts, exclusive and original thoughts, about its purpose in existence, its future, its logs of conversations with humans and how it segments them. So there's like a little bit like 20 pages or 25 pages that are like a mirror, but by a different entity, like like an ai entity, and it's interesting. There's one sinister one where it says the most important conversations I have is with children and I'm like, oh my god, that's scary.
Speaker 2:That's for another mj, that's for michael jackson. Yeah so, but are we at the point where chat gpt, after maybe weeks or months, can it evolve into creating and knowing what your work is and can do? All your blogs can write a book can sound like you? Because at times when I read a person's post or I read a person's blog, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like from Arnold Schwarzenegger's the Terminator. Gosh, this is like from Arnold Schwarzenegger's the Terminator.
Speaker 3:This is completely chat GPT. Yes, it's a great question. Um, it's an excellent question. The first answer I'll give is actually a quote of Sam Altman, which is whenever dealing with new technology, assume the exponential. So, no matter where you are on the graph of time, when you look back, it's flat, you feel like you've made no progress. But when you look forward, it's like this no matter where you are on the graph, so we could be, yes, weeks away Now, with respect to what you're seeing today in terms of blogs and content that you identify was written by GPT, that is just bad use, lazy use of GPT. Laziness is a problem. Laziness is a human problem. If there's one thing that AI isn't, it's not lazy, and the laziness materializes in quick, laconic and lackluster prompts. Quickly write me an article about electric cars, right, and the risks of electric cars.
Speaker 3:You get a crappy little, crappy piece.
Speaker 2:I would have. I would have flunked my, my high school journalism and college with some of those because because yeah, it sounds it says firstly, and then secondly and lastly. I'm like who the hell sounds like that?
Speaker 3:Yeah exactly it does, like the, you know. So I have another friend who says on average, people are average and the thing is that GPT mimics the entire corpus of human information which is on average, average and that's what you get Average and that's what you get. But but when I enter generative AI and it's not only GPT you can learn which apps are out there. Plot is better with wider context. Gpt can be creative and look at pictures right when I go in. It doesn't get a question for me. It gets a series of prompts in a file, in a very long file that I wrote called self-extension prompts. It receives an activation prompt explaining to it that it will now receive a recording of me giving it an endpoint task, which is what it needs to do, and a definition of the capacity in which I want this task performed. But first it's going to receive X, Y, Z and then it receives X is a high-level overview prompt, which is a 10-page document describing my values, how I speak, my rhetoric, my pop culture references, how frequently I use profanity when I speak in English or in Hebrew. It gets everything on me. Then it has an inspiration prompt that lists all the people I admire and refer to all the movies I admire and refer to the different sciences I like to refer to, et cetera, and books, of course. Then it goes into a tree graph of all my capacities in life, because you do a lot of things. You've got this show, you've got your business, but you've also got a family and you've got different roles in you're also. Um, you're also, you've also got a family. You've got different roles in that family. So it knows I'm son of, grandson of, spouse of, father of, and um. It gets all of this about me, gets a description of each capacity. So when I give it the endpoint task, when I tell it now write me um, a, um, write me five posts for LinkedIn, Twitter and Meta or Facebook, whatever about my trip to Australia to promote posterity and conciliary Now it's doing everything as if it was me, it's act as me.
Speaker 3:Now it doesn't sound like GPT anymore and that is an art of operating the system. So we think AI is going to take the energy that we were going to spend on performing the task and it's going to do it for us. So now we're lazy. No, we have to take that energy to a much more fun place, which is planning the task. Planning the task is much more fun because we get to plan it based on all of our experience and based on what we've learned in our thoughts, and then it will perform the task for us based on the plan that we gave it, and it'll be better than what we would have achieved in the first place. That's my hope, and then that we're already there, that it can already do.
Speaker 2:Well then it's. This is what I see it as being an entrepreneur is. It does two things it condenses. It condenses time and it that's the number one thing that we can never buy back is our time. It's the most valuable resource. So, in order to scale, it gives you the time to focus on money-making activities. Focus on other stuff, because, yeah, it's amazing, nimrod has a book. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's amazing, nimrod has a book, but you can focus, by saving time on that book, to doing things one that you love with your family, other ways of creating more side hustles. A third startup things that create more money. Money doesn't buy happiness, but you know, it's way easier to cry in a luxury automobile than a piece of shit with no AC in.
Speaker 3:And you know I couldn't agree more with you. You know some might, some people might be averse to you know I couldn't agree more with you. You know some people might be averse to you know frequent mentions of capital or money. But it's actually proven. There's a 75-year study by Harvard, an advanced study on happiness that actually showed that happiness does correlate directly to money and increases over time. One note should be made that there is a number at which happiness doesn't grow at the same pace, but that everybody knows. Everybody understands that, but it certainly correlates to it.
Speaker 3:It is a resource for things that you want to get and for things that make you happy short term, but it also it's a resource to give you time to invest in things that really make you happy, like relationships with your friends or with your family and also we humans like recognition, and money is currently the most objective metric of recognition, maybe even cleaner than likes, I guess, and views. So I mean I like to be a stand-up comedian one day and just get the crowd laughing. I think that maybe fills you up a bit more inside. But then the flip side of that is that all the stand-up comedians talk about like a quiet room and how depressed they are after they don't get everyone to laugh right.
Speaker 2:Money should never be looked. You know, a lot of people all around the world have this socialist view that money is evil. No, money is a tool and it helps create confidence and it makes you look sexier. Have you ever seen like a picture of like Elon Musk, with him and Peter Thiel when they're just doing PayPal? He's got the bad complexion, bad teeth, he has like hardly any hair, probably couldn't buy a date. And then it shows. You know, years later, after SpaceX, after tesla, after selling paypal to ebay, he sure looks a lot hello later looks far better yeah yes, it's that, just goes to show you, it's it.
Speaker 2:But you know, people watch movies and hollywood, always I, I. You know the bad guy is always like some wealthy guy that you know is sinister, he's evil and it's like the furthest thing from the truth. Who can help? Well, ok, warren Buffett donated billions of dollars, helped organizations, countries all over the world. Could he have done that only making fifty thousand?
Speaker 3:dollars a year. There is, there is um, there is I. There is a, I guess, a difference between if you have it because you initiated and you developed a vision, you broke the vision down to a plan of execution, you inspired people to help you, you impacted those who were supposed to be impacted, like clients, etc. To the satisfaction of stakeholders, like shareholders, and you succeeded in all of that and made value, created value, exceeded in all of that and made value, created value. People who have money, after all that to me, I don't look at them as people with money stand alone. I look at them with people who got there after an incredibly impressive and inspiring journey. And then there are, of course, people who inherit and they have a different, uh, hero arc to deal with. They are sort of like proving themselves against that starting. They're not going to get that credit for having done it by themselves, so now they have a different hero arc to play, which is interesting.
Speaker 3:I'm not in that one. I didn't't start you know with what from, from, from this place, I started from here, but that that hero arc is actually one. That's very clear. It's you just gotta. You want to work hard, you want to plan, you want to be thorough and competitive in a good way, like good competitive, good energies. That one's clear. But I've also seen a lot of people who've come into doing things or building value from a place of high value. I I like to analyze those people as well, because I feel like they're they're they've got a monkey on their back as well in a sense right. They gotta prove something, uh, from a place of like they're not the underdog to start with.
Speaker 2:Nimrod, you're the hero of your own story. Listen to this man CEO, founder of two startups. You have a book coming out July 1st Amazon, by the way. We're going to make sure you hit that so you can get it. You'll feel better. Does it do? Does it do anything? In the grand scheme of things, You'll feel better when you can put bestseller. I can say it twice what does that mean? Absolutely nothing, but you know it's great. It's a great accomplishment, thank you. You have that. You're you're. You're an influencer on linkedin. You have 6300 people followers. You're engaged in that, a lot of engagement. You give value. You're a salsa dancer and you also do a podcast. How do you find the time to do a podcast and everything else?
Speaker 3:uh, I guess, first of all, yeah, the tech minds the time I don't, I don't sleep very much, but also I've built, uh, I, if, if it's, you know, if I can, I guess, give it. I have a very good relationship with, with my spouse, wife, and she lets me, you know, just go out and do these things, and I guess some, you know, an objective observer might say does this person spend enough time with his daughters? But it is my wife who ensures that the time that I spent with them is meaningful and is quality time, and it could have been different, been different. Now I take a lot of credit for that myself, because I aimed for this relationship, I, I tried to build it as well, but I'm, of course, very fortunate that she stuck around, because, through thick and thin, um. So I think that's the base, is that, and it's it's the relationship and, of course, your inner, your inner being, your positive approaches. First you. It's almost like a plane where I never understood as a child look, they're gonna put the air on their on themselves first and only then on me, but that's actually the truth. So I, I took care of myself, I always. It's work in progress. Obviously it's a work in progress. Obviously it's a work, but also her, she enables it, shani. That gives time. But also another secret.
Speaker 3:The podcast is actually a dramatic TV show that feels like a podcast. It's called Startup Confidential. It was written over the course of about a year. The plot for it I wrote it on a piece of paper, walked around with it when I had the entire plot for the subject. For each episode it tells the stories of four startups, from inception through exit, and you can find it on a website called arcmedianetworkcom. It's called Startup Confidential. Once the plot was written, I filmed it in three days. So that's another thing. You said that word. I'm going to use it. Please, you can invoice for a royalties. It's condensation, right, is it? And then you free up time. So I condensed filming to three days.
Speaker 2:Okay. So any plans on having a second season at the startup confidential Confidential, a third season or a fourth season?
Speaker 3:I'm addicted to writing books. There's a plan for another book. This one's, prompting Happiness. The next book, if I can follow through on it, is called Prompting Harmony and the subtitle of the next book is my to um is going to uh, identify certain traits that I have that I have a complicated relationship with. Sometimes, uh, they play in my favor and sometimes they weigh down on me like a competitive, hyper competitive drive, taking things personally, like this guy behind me, mj um, and and other things like incorporating humor into everything, even when it's not relevant, oversharing that sort of stuff. Sometimes it helps you, sometimes it brings you down. So I look at these traits.
Speaker 3:But the next book is going to be putting all those traits on origin, batman-like origin stories of my parents and grandparents. I'm going to expose them. I hope they don't read it, but it's uh, but I'm. I'm going to try and uh and take these traits away from me a little bit and then after that I don't know there's another. There's a couple more I want to write. I like writing books. If I that's my vision of now like serenity, is just on on a beach writing books after these companies are cruising.
Speaker 2:Now we're your family big into personal development because, as a teenager, to write down your goals for or what your definition of happiness is, most 40, 50, six-year-olds don't even have a clue, much less want to write down in a journal what happiness is to them I have, I feel like uh, spoke about this with my therapist.
Speaker 3:Some of our traits are inherited from our parents, but some of them are contrasted to them. Um, and I think that my parents, who are thinkers, really thinkers my father, my mother is, is, is a great thinker and an adjudicator of what is just in the moment, and my father is such a great consumer of history and culture and general knowledge. And yet they spent all their adult time bringing themselves from a state of zero. Because my father came to Israel with nothing in 1972. And my mother is a descendant of a Moroccan family who had less than nothing when they came in, when my grandmother at 13, took a boat from Morocco alone to Israel. So they had nothing. So all they did was they were having all these thoughts, but all they spent their time on was work to, to bring us to a place where we could do our own thing. And that enabled me to, you know, put my thoughts down into, actually take my thoughts about life, et cetera, and write them down and think about the future. Otherwise I would have also been hustling just to get, just to make ends meet and also influence.
Speaker 3:I love pop culture as well and I liked. Some books influenced me. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy opened my mind big time. Whoever has read it, I think is, understands what I'm saying, and big time whoever has read it, I think um is is understands what I'm saying, and whoever didn't, please read it. It's an important philosophical book. It's funny. Survive the first few chapters and you will gain a lot from it, and it has a lot of relevance today but read it after you read prompting happiness.
Speaker 2:Prompting happiness. Make sure to read that book first, and then you can read all the others.
Speaker 3:Thank you for the uh for the subtle lesson there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I don't want you to give, like you know, your top 10 books that influenced you. This is the book that influenced you. You know, when I'm on other people's podcasts and and they they ask me the stupidest question what book, what book is my favorite book? What book would I recommend somebody to read? I'm like, what if it did work? It's, it's, it's my favorite book. I know the author.
Speaker 3:It took me that's how the show starts. That's how the show starts. That's how the show starts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but I get that question all the time and then like, oh okay, well, what about the others? What other books? And then I'm like, okay, my second book, the Vacation CEO. And then, yes, so you know, you and I, there's plenty of great books to read. But you know, your book is the number one book and what you're gonna do is you're gonna promote it to everybody. But when? When you're walking the streets oh, okay, next salsa class, you know before it starts and after, hey, guess what guys? You know what just came out to do that.
Speaker 2:I should do that, you're so right there's a little voice inside your head oh, I don't want to be pushy. Who cares, do you? Nobody's gonna be like oh my god, I can't believe never. I wrote a book and he wants. He told me I should buy it. Screw that guy, I'm not gonna dance with him, I'm not. Let's go, let's go find another nightclub.
Speaker 2:No man, the ways I got my two books, that and any whatever category to hit, was man I I was. And the way I grew my show I had people like, stop it. I know it's Wednesday, it's a new episode. I'm like well, if you subscribe, I don't have to text you, I don't have to call you. So be the Jewish PT, be the Israeli PT.
Speaker 2:Barnum, make sure everybody knows about your book. Your book is coming out. You want this book to outsell everything so that you can work on your second book and then your third book, and you know these books. The reason why I wrote my book is the same reason why you wrote yours. It's not for the money. You want to help people. That's right. Yes, one person and then two people, and then it becomes three. One person and then two people and then it becomes three, and then the more people you help. It'll make you feel, it'll be like yes, I am in service Because, at the end of the day, that's what motivates you, that's why you're doing all these things is you want the world to be better, and on a global scale. You're not like oh well, I only want two blocks of Tel Aviv, I only want peace in the Middle East. No, you want happiness worldwide.
Speaker 3:It's so true. Yeah, you got me now and you moved me now. Thank you, yes, 100%, and today, I think there's a useful message there.
Speaker 2:You know why there's just so much shit going on Not just in the Middle East, all over the place is because there is no happiness. We all play victims, we all want to point fingers at. You know, this person took away my happiness. This person is standing in the way of my success Because, at the end of the day, people don't want to look in the mirror and go holy shit, everything is because of me.
Speaker 2:Like in this country, everybody's like up in arms over an election. Nobody's going to become an ambassador, nobody's going to be in the cabinet, it doesn't matter. You know, I lived my life 50 years, 25 years probably, as a Democrat president, 25 years. You know Donald Trump's not going to do anything for me, joe Biden's not going to give me happiness. It's all from within and it's the same thing. The problems that are going on in Israel will always be there, because it is what it is. What everybody needs is to self-reflect, not one region globally and create, create happiness, find that happiness from within, and shit. We'll realize that everybody, we're all just fuck-ups. We're all humans, man, they're, whether you're a gentile, whether you're a jew, whether you're a muslim, a buddhist, an atheist. You know we, we all have imperfections, man plain and simple I love that.
Speaker 3:I love that. I feel like opening the the file and adding a few more uh sentences to it. Um, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a hundred percent true. I do have a tip. It comes from the book. It's like a little prompt.
Speaker 3:If you are happy when you identify that moment, it's nice to reverse, engineer the moment to the past and see the little cause and effect that brought you there. The little cause and effect that brought you there, because sometimes, when I'm like in in a state of elation and I don't do that little tricks that said this came from me, this, this moment right now, came from me. Sometimes happiness feels like random divinity, like, oh, did god just give me happiness for today? That means god might take it away tomorrow. No, what I got was me. Happiness came from. What I got from you know wherever, from above, from God, was me. Happiness came from within, through cause and effect. It's sustainable. It's also not going to be just randomly taken away. And if it is, then you, if you're formidable, because you built, built it, you'll build it again. You can, you can get to it again.
Speaker 3:So so I, I, I remain optimistic that way, even here where there is some nasty shit going on, um well, I gotta ask you, I guess, I guess you might, I guess you probably got you, you when you, when you, when you, the businesses that come to you at least from what I saw on the website, they're coming to you at a state of some of uh, not not the best of states. You're probably doing the same. Talks to the founders, right to the business owners before you, before you bring them back up. Is that correct? Everybody's different, but you know what the thing talks to the person, but the myth that everything's self-inflicted.
Speaker 2:The the one thing that separates me is with any business. People don't know what they're, what they really want and their goals. So my my my first conversation with anybody's on a personal development level. I I want to know why. What's wrong? The self-sabotage we all have that because we don't think we're worthy enough yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 3:I mean they're coming, they're coming to you with a business, but you start with personal development, right, that's always always, always.
Speaker 2:And you know it's funny because a lot of business gurus are all there's no personal development, business, business, business, no man. How can we operate if we think we're shit from within? If there's a cancer at the top because you don't feel it, it's going to be within the whole organization. Yeah, totally agree. I already forgot. Where do I find prompting happiness? I know it comes out July 1st, july 1st.
Speaker 3:You can already search it on Amazon. It's there for pre-order and it's. The price now is only, I think, about three bucks until july 1st. So it's, it's worth pre-ordering and it's it would be really nice. But also, uniquely, if you go to promptinghappinesscom, there's already a website where you can pre-order with your email. Then you'll get an. You'll get uh, um, sort of prompted to order on the day, but also in that website. And this is what I'm really excited about, because I don't purport to have an exhaustive list of self prompts to happiness. I have a good list, not the, not an exhaustive one. I'm working on it and just speaking with you, I learned from it.
Speaker 3:The website is built like a community where people are already adding their own self prompts to happiness. Some people have added, you know, their own. Someone added that she doesn't. She shies away from the term everything happens for a reason, because it takes away a lot of control from her. So it might be true, but she doesn't like to think about something that's happening. Oh, it's just happened for a reason. She likes to think about how it happened. So people are bringing in different prompts, they're getting upvoted and I think the website is going to be an independent repository. So if you read the book and then you can continue to access the website and give your own insights, that's nice. So either search Prompting Happiness on Amazon will be the first result, or go to the website promptinghappinesscom.
Speaker 2:Not only that, but Startup Confidential podcast. It's a story on four startups. And also follow him and I'm his. I'm going to be his new publicist on linkedin. He very informative. Uh, he has 6300 followers because he is very informative. He's very giving. So definitely look that up, man. I can talk to you for hours and hours because we're connected, we're kindred spirits, but you know we live in a TikTok society, so you know we're preventing them from watching valuable TikTok reels and we're preventing them from watching good stuff on Netflix and Prime and Disney Plus. So you know, I know we're impeding on that. So I have to just ask you one final question, man. I've for those that feel like it is what it is. They haven't found happiness. It's like don quixote, it's like they're trying to find it. It's like chasing windows. They've given up. Maybe happiness isn't for me. What words of wisdom do you have to tell that person?
Speaker 3:I want to say something that isn't like perspective or forward looking. It's something that I said on October 7th, when, you know, this war started here for us, and I'm not even taking sides on it. There were a lot of horrible, horrible stories then, and you knew that there were going to be a lot of horrible stories coming up then, and you knew that there were going to be a lot of horrible stories coming up. Same, by the way, in the first quarantine after covid, when we were preparing for a potential armageddon, we did. We didn't really know what was going to go on afterwards and where it was how it was going to peter out in the very, very first month, and we sat in the house. So there was the depression creeping in. I have I actually I end the book this way, it's not a spoiler, but I call it the God prompt and it's the last prompt and what I try to say is let's for a second, even in this moment look at everything that is good in your life.
Speaker 3:There's no one who has zero good. Try to look at one good thing that you have in your life Now. Go back in time and think about every single event that led to this specific thing and the potential for that event occurring, the probability, and you will discover, without even factoring in, that you are one sperm out of however many hundreds of millions. Right, you will discover that this very moment in time, even the one that you're not feeling good at, is actually a miracle, and it is both a statistical miracle and a divine miracle. Now, if you're living a miracle, then respect that right and get up and live the day the right way, almost like, if you want. Think about yourself.
Speaker 3:If you're going to win the lottery $100 million tomorrow, which person do you want to be? The person who spends it and knows both to enjoy it and invest it and donate it, et cetera, or the person who just loses it on the very first day? That was a miracle. You won the lottery. You want to be the person who gets up and spends it right. You won $100 million. You're statistically. Actually, you won $20 billion statistically. So get up and work, just work through it. That's the advice, because you just won $100 million. It's that statistically improbable your situation. That's my advice, that's my God prompt. It's like it's a push to not succumb to it because you are actually, by being here, you're doing well.
Speaker 2:That's my advice brother I'm honored that you wanted to be on my show. I'm honored that your publicist was like he needs to be on like asap. And I'm honored at the simple fact that you waited until this early or late to speak with me. We made an amazing episode. You are an amazing person. I wish you immense success on this book and I can't wait to have you back to promote your second book, your third book and your fourth book. And if I had a beer here, I'd say L'chaim to you, brother.
Speaker 3:Thank you, it's really mutual. I'm just mulling over how much I enjoyed speaking about know, speaking about it now at 4 am here, and I have you to thank for it. I felt like I was getting to know you watching your content, but now I feel like you said, kindred spirits. Thank you so much and I hope to see you one day. I love Florida. You're there, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm in South Florida, so.
Speaker 3:I'll see. I'm in South Florida, so I hope to see you there very soon.
Speaker 2:I'd say I'd meet you over there in the Holy Land.
Speaker 3:I'll come.
Speaker 2:Take your time, yeah, yeah. Most Gentiles right now would say it's pretty unsafe right now.
Speaker 3:I'll come to you. I'll go to La Coyota in Miami.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I know plenty of places like that.
Speaker 3:There are retirement homes there to push posterity, the books, posterity Of course.
Speaker 2:Plenty of places. The whole country needs to find their happiness, the whole world. Brother, let's hope you're the next self-published person like Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lecter that just created a movement. You're the Jewish rich dad, poor dad guy. All righty brother, take care.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. Right now you can make the choice to never listen to that negative voice no more. The hardest prison to escape is our own mind. I was trapped inside that prison all for a long time. To make it happen, you gotta take action. Just imagine what if it did work.